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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody, Monday, July sixth edition of Clay and Buck,
and it is going to be a doozy. Great to
have you with us. Hope you got a fantastic two
hundred and fiftieth. I was down here in South Florida,
did some barbecuing, fireworks, watching America celebrating, and then yesterday
I cheered on jolly Old England as they defeated Mexico
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on their home turf. Clay, A lot happening here. I
know you've been back for a couple of days from us.
You probably told everybody about Hawaii, Big Kahuna, Clay Travis,
very good, very good. Some people are saying on the surfboard,
very good. But I trust you had a fantastic vacation.
We're finally now back here in action dynamic DUEO of
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Clay and Buck, and there's much to discuss, although I
was a little surprised to see coming out of the
two fiftieth. A couple of things. One, Clay, we have
the way people who listen to this show and see
the world like we do, the way that we all
think of the two fiftieth, and then people like Mamdani
and Democrats and others who take it as an opportunity
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to dump on and basically cry about America, which is
I suppose entirely unsurprising. That was what I thought would
be our main focus today as we come back, Although
it turns out, Clay, the streams have been crossed. We
are now in dare I say, a Shark NATO, perhaps
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a Clay NATO of content situation where we have Trump
intervening with FIFA, the World Soccer federation body, during a
World Club here, World Cup here, on us soil over
the course of America's not just Independence Day celebration, but
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two hundred and fifty years of American independence, and also
now getting into the legal wrangling around the rules. Although
I suppose it's kind of just like a soccer associations,
they can make it up as they go along. Clay,
a red card removed for an American national team player.
You broke the story as I understand it, over the weekend.
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So now Klay's a breaking news guy too. He's not
just a commentator, a breaking news guy. The President intervening
on America's two hundred and fifty is birthday so that
our men's national team tonight will have its highest goal
scorer on the pitch to fight against Belgium in a
do or die situation. It feels like a sports show
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all of a sudden, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I don't know to what extent this audience has been
closely following this story. So let me give you like
one minute if you're out there and you're thinking to yourself,
what in the world is going on here? The United
States best goal scorer, fuller in Balligan, was suspended in
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a match that we won against Bosnia, and he was
suspended in a way that was unjustified according to most people.
I think you coach soccer when you saw that he
got the red card for this, or people who don't know,
a red card gets you kicked off the field, so
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your team has to play one man down for the
remainder of the game, and then it gets you a
suspension for the next game. So it's an incredibly punitive
penalty that is brought to bear. But let me ask
you this, because you coached high school soccer for a while,
if one of your players had gotten a red card
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for what occurred in this match, would you have lost
your mind on the sideline as a coach?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yes, I absolutely would have. I did, Clay and I
is interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
We're both proud patriotic Americans who both played as youths
and enjoy watching soccer, which kind of for some people
makes us lose American points whever not while our US
men's national team is in the midst of a hosted
by America World Cup. And let me tell you, for
all of you who are like, I don't care soccer,
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I don't care, this has been a tour de force
for the whole world to see how awesome America is. Yes,
it really has been. It has been eye opening because
people have been you know, we got to remember the
way that things are shared now on TikTok and Instagram
and everything else. And it's been beautiful to see. To Texas.
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You've gotten so much love. People from Tokyo to uh
to Turkey have just been showing up in Texas and
they're like, this place is amazing.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Like it's been really cool for America.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
So, whether you like soccer or not, back to the
and we can talk more about that because we haven't
had a chance to kind of wrap on that stuff.
And I think that was really a special thing for
our country going into the two fiftieth but on the
red card Clay. This was the most absurd red car
any human being has ever seen given in any soccer
game ever. Trump is one hundred percent correct to advocate
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for America's interest in this and people who are acting
like this is some huge it's all. It's all a
judgment call, folks. You know, it's all a matter of
inches here to borrow from a Pacino in any given Sunday,
like Trump's fighting for that inch.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So here is the uh what so yesterday, Yes, I
broke news. There's like ten million views on it on Twitter.
Every now and then I jump into the Hey I've
got news, uh, and I will break it President Trump,
this doesn't surprise me at all. In fact, I tweeted
that he would likely get involved because he is a
legitimate sports fan. Andrew Giuliani, who is the head of
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basically running the White House Task Force for the World
Cup for into, both of ours been on the program.
A bunch uh and Howard Lutnet, Commerce Secretary all put
together a team of elite wars from outside the government
to be able to work on an appeal. President Trump
has now said, we'll play that audio for you in
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a sect that he called Gianni Infantino, the head of
FIFA and basically said the truth, this shouldn't have been
a red card.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
It was a bad call.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
And he believed that there was evidence that would suggest
it should be suspended aka overturned, at least in the
short term, and FIFA, under their rule governing powers Rule
twenty seven looked at it and said we are suspending
the enforcement of the rule of this red card, and
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all of Europe has lost their minds over the fact
that this has occurred. Now buck to me, I look
at this in a functional way. If you make a
bad call and the bad call can be reversed, the
bad call should be reversed. Like that's to me the
essence of this. It shouldn't have been ever in place.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Though the way I I have to tell you something
about all this, folks, The fact that they now have
this thing, this var this virtual review, just goes to
show you how many soccer games previously just turned on
a whim, particularly on off sides, which I don't care
who you are, without being able to go back and
look at instant replay, and I mean at the absolute
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highest level, they were getting off sides calls wrong all
the time, all the time, and an off sides call
is the game a lot of the time because if
you don't call, you know you've seen a lot of goals.
It's actually kind of frustrating now a little bit for
the viewer because you'll think someone scored a goal and
then they'll do the off sides review play. The whole
ethos now of the soccer is in this modern marvelous
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age we are in of technology, get it right. This
is about getting it right. This is about a fair hearing.
So the Europeans, no surprise, are whining and crying about this,
particularly Belgium.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And this is great for America tonight.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Can you imagine all so wanting to they really want
to play against a essentially a wounded US men's team,
Like that's.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
How that's how they want to proceed.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
They want to they want to be able to say
we beat America without their second best player. Look at
how good we are. So yeah, I think that they're
being a bunch of crybabies. But it is it is
the trump card that has trumped the red card, which
on America's two hundred and fiftieth The symbolism I think
is lost on nobody, And look.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
This is what the president should be.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
He should be the foremost advocate for United States interest
in the world. And if you are getting screwed in
a sporting event, then I think it's fine for the
president to step in and be an advocate and put
together government outside of government warriors to be advocates. And
I just think this is what Trump does and I'm
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not surprised by it at all.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I'm in favor of it.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Buck, you are not as as plugged in, certainly to
the college football world. I would also point out this
is what America does. We file lawsuits, we have judges
looking at everything. The idea that there would be politicians
involved in sport related incidents is for anybody who's a
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college football fan, your quarterback is probably suing to argue
that he should be able to play. There's been conference
realignment lawsuits where governors and senators have been going toe
to toe. There are reports back in the day during
conference realignment that some senators on the floor had to
be separated. Mitch McConnell, who doesn't want to fight for
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anything often times, was ready to come to blows over
whether Louisville was going to be in a conference versus
West Virginia. All of this chaos and craziness is part
and parcel of American life. But yes, Bucket felt like
this story was almost perfectly designed for me.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It also does remind me of when I was coaching
high school soccer in New York Clay We were undefeated
and going into the playoffs, and it was the last
game of the season and I played my best player
only in the second half, who ended up going on
to have a pretty good college career. He was an exceptional, exceptional,
like fifteen year old fourteen fifteen year old soccer player,
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and he he was being fouled so much, and the
ref was so trash that he wasn't calling, and he
turned around and he dropped kicked a soccer ball in
the kid's face, who like really grabbed his shirt or whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It was a hell of a move, by the way,
but he definitely got a read. He definitely got a
red card for that, And I couldn't really argue it.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I couldn't really argue it because if you drop kick
a soccer ball in someone's face and purpose as hard
as you can and they like fall down and they're
like crying for Mommy, you're gonna get a red card.
This red card was sort of the opposite of that
in my in my mind, where it was you should
only get a red card for doing something that is
a clear and willful violation of the rules and or
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like dangerous and harmful to another player.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
That's really what it's supposed to be about.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
You're geting ejected from two games from the game and
the next day the penalty is too significant, I think
in the first place, if you get kicked out of
a game and your team has to play for one
less player, that should be the end of the penalty, right,
Like not getting to play for thirty minutes with a
guy is pretty severe of a punishment it is. It
is funny though, I think that people have realized too
the soccer. It's a good thing for soccer that now
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they have And anyways, like, why are.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
You guys talking to this?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
The President has been more focused on this the last
three days than horn Movez just being honest with you, Okay.
The president has been more in on this, the president
of the United States, this issue as Clay is hitting
in a US men's national team jersey than anything else
in the world.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
So we're just following the news cycle. We're not.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
This is not I will say, Fox News, CNN, and
MSNBC all began their our discussions of the biggest news
in the country right now with this story.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
So it is everywhere.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
And I think you were talking buck about Americans, and
I think this audience has will be watching this game
tonight against Belgium.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
In overwhelming numbers, huge numbers tonight.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Producer Mak who's probably at home, I don't know. I
don't know if he's in studio right now. He's up
in New York. Producer Mack Clay, who you know, work
with me when I was doing my own show years
and years ago.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
He loves hockey.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
He loves hockey, and he was like, you got to
watch that movie Miracle and and you'll be cheering for
America by the end.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And I was like, you know what you're I checked
it out. It's absolutely true.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I'm not a hockey guy, but when the US ice
hockey team is either in a moment of glory against
against the Soviets or kicking ass all of a sudden,
I'm like, give me a puck and a stick.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I'm right there with you, guys.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Okay, So I do think that there's a little bit
of America, especially because we're hosting this World Cup, which
means we have all these foreigners who are coming here,
uh and and experiencing America, many of them for the
first and it's been quite a scene. It's been a
lot of fun. By way, it's been a huge success.
And you know how you know, it's been a huge
success Anti Trump. The Trump haters are trying to downtalk it. Now, Oh,
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Trump didn't do It's not that Trump did such a
good job. It's just some of the format changes.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Oh, it's not.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
It's been a massive success in this country. It's been
the most interesting, you know, World Cup draw that I've
seen in a long time. And Clay, the other funny
thing about this, we're talking about the way left and
right approach the two fiftieth Democrats and Republicans. So many
people who are just Trump hating Democrat commies are angry
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about Americans. I'm talking about now, there are American Democrats
who are siding with the r US national team player
should be out. I wish he still had the red card.
That's how much self loathing these filthy American commedies actually have.
They would like to see America's national team hobbled just
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because they hate Trump so much.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
It is extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
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Speaker 3 (14:09):
We'll get into that buck.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I don't know if you watched the fireworks display at
I don't know. It's like one am on the East coast.
By the time they went off, it looked it was unbelievable.
If you even if you haven't, go look at the
time lapse, uh and see how all of that broke out.
And I just it was so vintage, over the top,
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Speaker 3 (15:53):
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Speaker 2 (15:59):
Cool Welcome in our number two. Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
We are rolling in.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
The first Monday after America to fifty lead stories on
CNN and Fox News. The bread card controversy as the
US prepares to play Belgium, a lot of you weighing in.
We'll get to a bunch of those talkbacks. The hearing
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that is taking place in Utah over the Charley Kirk
Assassin the Charge assassin, Tyler Robinson, Senator Kelly in a
Mexico Jersey, Buck, I just have to tell you as
we jump into our number two, I thought the America
two fifty celebrations were just awesome. I stayed up late
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like many of you on July fourth and watched the
celebration from DC. I'm sure that many of you listening
were actually there, as this audience over indexes to a
massive degree for patriots. I traveled to Mount Rushmore with
my oldest son. I had never been there before and
got the opportunity to go visit Mount Rushmore and see
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the President speak on July third, as well as the
fireworks there. I thought a lot about the history of
the country, as many of you did as a part
of America two fifty. But also, and I know we
have discussed this before. Can you imagine, Buck, if we
had been in a situation where Kamala Harris was the
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president for America to fifty. I know there are a
billion things that Trump has been involved in that have,
in our opinion, made the country better, But just something
simple like Kamala Harris versus Trump on America two fifty
she would have given us a long handwringing mom Donnie
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like recitation of america awfulness. She would have certainly probably
begun all of the events with land acknowledgements. And I
feel that the entirety of the country, by and large,
for people whose brains are not broken, came together and
just everybody said, thank the ward that we have the
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good fortune to be Americans. And I thought it was
an awesome weekend.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
And you can't you can't change the fact that there
are always going to be people who are just losers.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
They have a loser mentality, even if they've been very blessed,
even if they're very wealthy or influential. They view America
through the lens of it's never enough, We're never enough.
Have to tear it down, and you just need to ignore.
You need to ignore the haters at some level. And
I think that a lot of people. Obviously, if you
had a great weekend and know all of you did,
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that's what you do. You just have to go forth
and not pay attention to these individuals.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
But I just feel like.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
It's become so pathological with them. If there's something so
deep seated that It's America's birthday, and you can't just
you can't celebrate that this is clearly the best country
that has ever existed. There's so many ways you could
talk about this too. There's never been another nation in
the history of the world that had the ability if
it wanted to, to militarily level any society that we
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want to. I mean, you could say that Russia and
China could you hit us with mutually assured destruction of nukes,
But a lot of smaller countries we could just be like,
we're going to destroy everything and take you over unless
you do everything that we want, or unless you do
the following, and the world sleeps soundly at night knowing
that we could end the world tomorrow and we're not
going to. And then, actually, America is overwhelmingly a force
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for good and benevolence globally, and it's also a heck
of a great place to live and to be.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I understand that our show, because we talk about politics
and the day to day, we're looking at the problems
and we want to fix problems too.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
We're not. That's the other thing, Claire.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I feel like there's such a there's such a haughtiness
to these people that are like, well, I'm gonna be
the one that criticizes them.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
We're very aware of the fact that America is imperfect.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
The same way as as I said, well, you while
you were on vacation, I said, you know, when you
say you love a family member and are proud of them,
you're not saying they're perfect. Yeah, but imagine if you said,
you know, Clay, you've got three boys. Imagine every time
you were gonna tell many boys you know, son, I'm
I'm or you know I said to my son, although
he you know, still kind of in the goo goo
gaga phase. But if I said, you know, you're amazing,
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and I'm really proud of you, but I wish you
hadn't done the following few things, or you know, I
wish you had done this differently, and then I'd really
be proud of you. Something you know, you would need therapy,
like something would be wrong with you and it's time
to sit down and talk to a priest and find
Jesus like why would you say that about a family member.
Democrats feel that way about America, about this country, they can't.
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It's not that it's not that we're not aware of flaws.
They can't talk about the good things with that.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Would you would anyone?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Would any of you want to be around a friend
who every time they saw either like, hey, you look great.
I mean you could do a little more work with
you know, around the eyes, you could lose about ten
more pounds.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
But but that's what they do with America. They can't
just say you look great. It's the ceiling and the floor.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
And again, I just come back to think about the
celebration of a life, which a long life should be
for a funeral. Everybody sat at a funeral when any
life ends. But if you live to be eighty eighty five,
ninety years old, it's a celebration of your life. And
if somebody got up and they spent most of the
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time at that eulogy talking about the negative things you
had done, I just think Democrats have allowed themselves to
be taken over by focusing on the worst aspects of
American life, obsessively picking at scabs and look, mom, Donnie,
where is the gratitude? I think is a fair question
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to ask. Mamdanni was born in Uganda. His family, because
they came to the United States, is far more successful
than they could have ever been in Uganda, they came
to the United States. He only became a citizen eight
years ago. Buck, I don't know if you would co
sign on this. If Mam Donnie were eligible to be
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president of the United States, he would be the Democrat
nominee in twenty twenty eight. I think he would. He
has captured the Zeigist if you look at the three
outcomes in the New York primaries, if you look at
what just happened in Colorado one where socialists aka really
communists have won the elections there, Mam Donnie would be
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the nominee.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I think in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
He said at George Washington's desk eight years only he
has been a United States citizen, and he lectured all
of us about what America mint. And if you compared
that with Trump at Mount Rushmore or Trump on the
National Mall on July third and July fourth, Trump told
the uplifting story of America. And I think those stories
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it's hard to win an election if you are the
person who was picking at the scabs of the country.
And I think that's what Democrats are going to run into,
because again, the midterms might tell one story we'll see
what happens. But as we move into the new cycle
and get ready for who the next president is going
to be, I think Democrats are severely curtailed by the
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awfulness that their party base expects for.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
The story of America to be.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
And I just think it's hard to pull in normal
people to want to sign on for an America is
awful and its history is unsupported by any measure of excellence.
I think that's a hard pitch to sell.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
It just feels like.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
The Democrat Party is lacking joy as a political entity.
As a general matter, there's there's a really clear negativity.
And look, negativity sells and politics. It sells and media too,
you know, Clai, I think we've talked here about how, yes,
there are challenges right now in the sort of on
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the slow side, or rather on the you know, the
short side, like the month to month, day to day
of the American economy. But if you look at America
over the last hundred years, I mean, this is the
greatest wealth creation machine that has ever existed in human history.
And with that, I mean real wealth technological advancement that
makes your life better and easier and more comfortable and
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longer unless you enjoy you know, sixties, seventies, eighties now
are entirely different for Americans than they were in our
great grandparents generation. It's a different thing. Okay, you're you're
You're able to function in ways. You know, we could
sit here and just take phone calls from guys in
their seventies that want to challenge us to push up contest.
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Maybe it says more about us Clay than them, but
you get what I'm saying. That's a real thing now
and people need to keep that in mind too. And
I think the celebration of America's two fiftieth and why
it is so profound, you know, you could sit here
and just go through the incredible things that this country
has done, has led in has been a part of
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you know. And also I know Europeans right now are
winding about the red card. Europe is only what it
is now because of us, meaning it's only been able
to be as free and prosperous as it is because
of America.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
We saved them from Nazism, we saved them from the
Soviet Union as well.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Without us, none of that actually goes the way that
humanity would want it to. And you know we are
also the thing that is protecting the rest of the
world from Chinese communist domination over time.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
So you know, they really should just say thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
And that's I think a part of being able to
understand what it really is to be American is yes,
there's a responsibility, but there's also a gratitude. And that's
why we're so frustrated by some of the new arrivals
like Mamdani and a lot of these illegals too, who
it just feels like they think this is a soup
kitchen and like a jobs program or an economic zone
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or a welfare ward or whatever you want to call it,
it's more than that.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Here is an example of what Mam Donnie said while
sitting at George Washington's desk on his July fourth address,
Cut twenty four.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Listen as we mark two hundred and fifty years, what
do we see? We see a city of contradictions within
a nation of contradictions. We see the wealthiest country in
the history of the world, one where children go to
sleep hungry while the world's first trillionaire hungers for more.
We see monopolies that dominate every industry and oligarchs who
buy elections. We see massed agents terrorizing our streets, eating
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food cooked by our undocumented neighbors before spiriting them away
in unmarked vans. We see a nation whose immense wealth
has been built by those with callous, dirt streaked hands,
those who toil on factory floors and chisel into stone.
And we see a nation that has allowed so much
of that wealth to be held instead and the soft
hands of a precious few.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Again the Democrat pitch, you just heard it.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I think that distills what Mamdani believes very significantly and succinctly.
He wants to take from the makers, that is, the
people who are creating value and building things, and he
wants to give it to people, by and large who
are not really working. And I think that this kind
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of goes to remember when Graham Plattner, who's running for
Senate in Maine, said that he wanted a yawn Musk
to be the world's last trillionaire. I really think that
that is such an awful thing to say. The world's
first billionaire was Rockefeller back in like nineteen twenty six.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I believe was the first year we ever had a billionaire.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Now we have I think a thousand billionaires in the
United States. If we had one thousand trillionaires in the
United States, the quality of life of everyone would be
much better. And Democrats don't believe that. And I think
that's the essence of the battle.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I've been on this for a long time, Clay, because
with Elon in particular, even before he made his political switch,
you know, we're really his political reckoning, which occurred, as
we know, because of the transing of his son, among
other things.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
He's been very vocal about that.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
But for the climate change people, Elon Musk was arguably
doing more and people say, oh, because of just the
electric cars, No, because of battery technology actually as well,
doing more to fight climate change if you're worried about that,
than almost any other human being on Earth. And then
they decided that they didn't like him anymore because he
(28:56):
supported Trump so it was existential that climate change be addressed,
and the man who's doing more to fight climate change,
all of a sudden is thrown under the bus because
he doesn't share their view about like transgenderism and some
other things. She goes to show you these people are
entirely they're monomoniacal, they are unseerious and they're miserable, and
(29:17):
the misery index whatever you or I know, that's a
real thing, but like we should create a new misery
index for Democrats because so much of their politics is
driven being resentful, pissed off, and angry all the time
about everything, including America.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
On its two hundred and fiftieth perthday, it was remarkable
to see every person who.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Was a wompwomp over the fourth of July weekend on
the two fiftieth, Every single one of them was some
prominent left wing Democrat loon.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Everyone one hundred percent correct. We'll take some of your
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Speaker 1 (31:13):
Waves the third hour of play and Buck kicks off
right now. It's pretty amazing to see the coverage of
this World Cup situation. And I know some of you
have been joking. You're like, wow, even Buck is talking
about this today and with Gusto no Less played our
enjoying this conversation. We get you guys with recreational soccer
(31:35):
backgrounds here.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
And soccer thrust into the national spotlight.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Many of you dare, I say kick dirt in the
general direction of soccer. You are football or basketball, or
hockey or baseball fans, but soccer is in the limelight
right now as our us mentioned national team is preparing
for a phenomenal hopefully showing again. The Belgian national team, Belgium,
(32:05):
the Netherlands, these are small European countries that punch way
above their weight when it comes to soccer ability for
a nation of that size. But that also brings me
to really, I think the darlings of this World Cup
in many ways globally because of the fan base, and
they're incredibly entertaining and energizing fan what would you call
(32:31):
it like fan ritual perhaps of the Viking row, and
that would be Norway great.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
This Norway team.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
You know, Norway is you know, small Scandinavia, small by population,
Scandinavian country, very well off because it has enormous fossil
fuel reserves by the way, and it's in a well
health little country. And they have one of the best
goal scorers strikers in the world in Irling Holland, who
(33:00):
plays for Manchester City, which is in the Premier League,
which is the British Soccer League professional soccer league, top
level and the best, the best league overall in the
world for club soccer sports, which is like you know,
pro leagues. And they they just had a mighty win.
(33:22):
And I think Clay they're going to be playing my
beloved England though, isn't that what's up next? This is
that's going to be a tough one for me. I
think that's happening here in Miami on WEDNS.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
But the Viking Row, if you haven't seen it, people
were doing it on the New York City subway trains.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
They've been doing. This has become I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I think it's the greatest fan ritual since the Tomahawk chop.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I mean, it is a great one. They beat the drum.
If you haven't seen this, you should watch. And let
me just say this, I don't think there's that many
people out there who are still in the Oh, I'm
not gonna watch because it's soccer. Doesn't matter like soccer
is here. There are gonna be tens of millions of
(34:05):
people watching tonight. It could be the most watched sporting
event in America in decades that doesn't involve the NFL, right,
more than any college football game, more than any Major
League baseball game, more than any Olympics going all the
way back to the nineteen nineties, depending on exactly how
big this audience is going to be. But man like
(34:27):
last night, Pawk, that Mexico England game, I had zero
rooting interest. In fact, I was sitting around kind of
thinking to myself, I probably was rooting for England, but
I don't have anything against Mexico. Mexico's just a bigger
rival in soccer of the United States right now. It
was exhilarating to watch, and to your point, this Norway,
(34:52):
the Viking row that they do, it's awesome seeing all
these different teams. The other thing that it does is
reinforces borders matter. You know, the World Cup wouldn't make
any sense if we had a borderless world. There wouldn't
be any World Cup. There wouldn't be any unique cultural
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constructs of teams. There wouldn't be the Viking Row, there
wouldn't be all these Last night, I don't know how
long they've been doing it. When they played Wonderwall with
the English team For those of you remember the nineties,
Oasis band a great song back in the day and
the whole British crowd was singing along to wonderwall Buck.
(35:35):
How awesome was it when the US stadium was all
singing country roads. It's become the anthem, the John Denver
song about West Virginia. I know for the nerds out there,
the geography is actually more Maryland than West Virginia.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Trust me, I know how many of you have watched
that clip.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
If we are fortunate enough to win tonight, the entire
stadium in Seattle will be around ten o'clock Eastern time
singing country roads in tandem. Then the American team is
going together and pray together. I don't know how many
of you have watched this. This American team during the
(36:19):
national anthem, the guys stand with their hands over their
hearts and they sing along to the national anthem. I'm sorry,
I don't see how this can be seen as anything
other than stellar for the overall American embodiment, exceptionalism during
America two fifty. This US men's team is intensely beloved,
(36:43):
and if you haven't watched them play yet, I think
they're gonna represent everything that so many of you out
there listening right now love about America. I just think now,
you know, I'm sure that at some point there's gonna
be some story that comes out and some guys on
something that's not great, Like I get it right, it's
twenty five twenty five year olds, right, there's a knuckleheads everywhere.
(37:07):
But as a group, I love the culture of this team,
I love what they represent, and I have just truly
found it phenomenal to watch them, and I think a
lot of people are agreeing with me, which is why
we're gonna have one of the biggest audiences for a
sporting event in decades.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
And the fact that, look, let's just be honest about this.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Okay, there's sometimes where Trump can be a little bit like,
you know, he can't taking credit on something.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
You're going, well, like, that's amazing, but you know you
weren't really the guy necessarily who were the most involved
in that specific thing in this case, you know, somebody.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
He takes a lot of credit, That's all I'm saying,
and sometimes he deserves a lot of credit. So like
the US men's national team, for example, winning there would
be a part of Trump. It's like only in Trump
America would we finally have a great men's soccer team.
In this case, though, if they are successful tonight, the
president of the United States will have played, no question
(38:13):
about it, an active role in the success of the
US men's national soccer team.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
That's just a fact. It's pretty remarkable when you think
about it.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
You know, like Trump says like operation warp Speed, Like
he made it sound like he was down there experimenting
with the vaccines himself against COVID, Like not really, I mean,
I know, he made it possible. In this case, he
would have had a direct hand in the US victory
in a sense.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
And I just think that that adds to all the
high drama. Of course, it's why what do you say
at msn ms NOW has a three person panel just
talking about and they're all talking about this with sadness.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yes, ms NOW, I keep the used to be. MSNBC
has a three person panel. Their opening story here is
about Trump's getting involved in the FIFA red card. And
there are lots of people on the left in America
who are saying, I'm rooting for Belgium tonight.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Now, I mean they're just being explicit.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I mean about the fact that you don't like the
United States if you are rooting for Belgium. And again,
I just come back to FIFA screwed up and all
we have done is rectify their screw up. When someone
screws up in sports, should you fix it or not?
Speaker 3 (39:33):
To me, the answer is yes.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
I mean, the entire purpose of instant replay is to
rectify wrongs that officials have made on the field. There
is an acknowledgment from anyone who played soccer that that
shouldn't have been a red card. I haven't seen anyone
argue that this was a correctly rendered decision.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
So what do you do.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Do you just wear the poor decision which costs the
United States potentially our best goal scoring option, or do
you fix it?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
I would think quite clearly anybody who believes not just
in America, but in fairness would be a big fan
something else. By the way, I just want to say Trump,
this got a little overshadow by the World Cup stuff.
But he was ringing the bell at the New York
Stock Exchange and NASDAK opening to essentially celebrate these Trump accounts. Yeah,
(40:27):
so this is what he says. Let me this is
cut two. Here's President Trump this morning talking about this.
The Trump Accounts play.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
It earlier this morning. Many of you joined me in
the Oval office for the ringing of the opening bell,
and something happened that was incredible. Never happened before. We
had the New York Stock Exchange and Nasdak the top
of both. These are great people, but they never did
a bell and opening together. This is the first time it.
There's the bell right there and I said, it's so beautiful.
I'm not giving it back. I don't know if it's
(40:54):
supposed to go back, but they're gonna have to fight
like hell to get it back. We're not giving it back.
Do you understand that, Scott, don't let it leave. It's
so beautiful. But that's the bell we rang. And that's
where the New York Sock Exchange and as that came together,
the leadership, brilliant people and the first time ever we
did it together. It was an opening where we did
it together. That's an honor of the Trump accounts. Because
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we're going to make young children born with no money
in many cases rich.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I think they're going to be rich.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
This is now there's a lot of First of all,
I think that there will be a lot of good
done for people with these accounts down the line, because
you know you don't need a lot, especially when you
graduate from college. You don't need a lot to make
your life a lot easier in your twenties. And it
is this is the truth. You you need something. This
(41:44):
is somebody I can tell you who I had like
no money in my twenties. I was living paycheck to paycheck,
and I live paycheck to paycheck in my thirties until
about thirty five or thirty six, I would say I
was pretty much just like living all night paychecks. So
so call it almost you know, fifteen years of that
and Clay. This is also, though, a very public lesson
(42:07):
for everybody. And you want to this is this goes
to America in the two fiftieth everything. You want to
participate and you want your children and your grandchildren to
participate in the American economies wealth generation meaning the generating
of wealth, not like a generation of wealth, like the
wealth generating machinery of the American economy. And to do that,
(42:30):
all you have to do is bet on America, bet
on the economy by putting your money in the s
and p and wait. It is patience and patience wins
this race. It is patience and compound interests, really, and
I will.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Tell you it is.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
It is appalling to me in retrospect that I never
no one ever explained compound interest in a stock context
or in a wealth building context.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Me Clay Soil, I was in college.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Yeah, we do an awful job of teaching people basic
finance in this country. And that's why you don't have
to overthink it.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
You don't have to.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
I have tried to ingrain this in my kids' heads.
The S and P five hundred, it's just an index
of the five hundred largest American companies.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
In the world.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Every ten years on average, roughly it's gonna double. Buy
S and P five hundred index funds for you, your kids,
buy the index, don't touch it. You don't have to
even worry about individual stocks. You don't have to do
research on earnings or pe ratios or anything else. Don't
look at it for ten years. Odds are it's gonna double.
(43:45):
If it doesn't double, country and the world probably not
been great. But over time, if you've got generational opportunity,
which young kids do, you should have them invested in
the stock market and overtime. Every ten years, you're gonna
double and buck to your point. You start doing that pyramid,
you don't have to start with a ton doubling every
(44:07):
ten years. When you've got a forty and a fifty
year horizon, it is transformative for the life. I've argued
this for a long time. This is something that George
Bush Senior got right. We should have indexed Social Security
to S and P five hundred larger government stock market funds.
Instead of getting two percent three percent interest, Social Security
(44:30):
be taken care of if a generation or two generations
ago we had connected it all that money to the
existing stock market. But that's a whole another bigger discussion.
But the idea that we only get cost of living
increases on our Social Security money is a failure. We're
not utilizing that money in the best way that we
should have.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
You seen.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
This will sound like a crazy departure. I like to
do that sometimes because I'm weaving and I want to
keep you all in your toes. I don't want you
to think we're on like some kind of autopilot segment. Clay,
have you s these robots that are supposed to be
available for purchase in the next. I think at the
end of this year that can fold laundry.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I've been following, my sons have been following this. Is
this Optimist or is this a different one?
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (45:17):
I think it's a different company now some of this
stuff that always I'm like, is it AI?
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Is not AI. They're working on Optimist robots. They are
working on everybody.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
The productivity gains when you add AI to robotics and
advanced machinery and transportation. We are going to be living
in a very different and in many ways better world.
There will be some challenges that come from this, But
to my point of bed on America getting richer because
(45:47):
if America turns poor, you know what happens. All that's
gonna matter is how much drinkable water and how much
ammunition you've got. Honestly, okay, that's there's no there's no like. Oh,
catastrophism when it comes to the American economy is like
betting on mad Max. And here's the problem with that.
If you're right, nobody wins. So bet on America. Long
(46:09):
term amens signs have.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Long term horizons. That's the biggest thing in success in life.
Think longer than short term.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Now, now I'm not saying it's gonna be mad Max, obviously,
but you might be in a blackout for a while.
You might be in the path of a major storm
that does happen happen relatives of mine, as you know,
and it can happen to anyone anywhere. So preparation for
part of that makes a lot of sense because it
could feel like mac Matt and mad.
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Looking for normal in a world of crazy. Clay and
(47:50):
Buck have your back. Welcome back in here too, Clay
and Buck, and We've got a lot of you weigh in,
which we love to hear from all of you about
everything going on as we know today, the biggest thing
is anticipation of this World Cup soccer match to night between.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
The US and Belgium. I am rooting for America, even
though I told you all from the very beginning that
England will actually win the whole thing if I make
that If that's correct, by the way, that would be
from the non sports guy on this you know, the
nonsports commentator on this program.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
That would be a phenomenal call. I think I was
getting five to one odds. It might have put a
little money on this one. So that's pretty pretty fantastic overall.
And I would just tell you if you're wondering, who's
like most this French team is and does anyone really
does anyone who's not French want to see the French
win play? This is the thing I think.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
I think if you know how they do those maps
when there's like a Super Bowl, and sometimes it's a
little sad because every state except for the state.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Of the team is like rooting for the other team.
That's the world except French. People want France to win.
I don't think a single other country anywhere in the
world would be like, you know who I want to
see when this thing France. But their team is unbelievably
stacked talent talent wise, they're the number they have the
most talent on one team. That's just reality. But that
doesn't mean they're going to win necessarily, you know. So
(49:15):
there are other things you know, on any given Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,
Wednesday or Thursday.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
There's a lot of things that could happen here. So
I am looking for this. Do you want to how
deep into this main senate race thing? Do we want
to get it?
Speaker 1 (49:28):
Because the grand Platner story up to this point has
just been one s one long series of this is
the guy that Democrats think is going to be the
next senator from Maine, and tell us what you have
on this one.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
It's a little early stage.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
But.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
There are so in the prediction market universe right now
there are odds that are surging that Graham Platner is
going to be facing another scam story. Remember, I know
this kind of got snowed under, but in the New
York Times article that was published about grandpat Platner's past relationships,
(50:11):
the campaign acknowledged that he used to regularly say that
if anyone tried to rob his apartment, he was going
to rape them, but not in a gay way, just
to establish dominance. The guy has a Nazi tattoo on
his chest, and he regularly would go around telling people
(50:34):
I will rape any man who tries to rob rob
my apartment, but not in a gay way, just to
establish dominance. And so this guy's got a lot of
things in his past that are that are shady also
the whole Oh, I'm just a oyster farmer from Maine. No,
he had an oyster farm. His mom he runs a restaurant,
(50:58):
and she bought his oysters. His dad bought his house.
He is basically unable to provide for himself otherwise. So
he's trying to get a job as a United States senator,
and he's got a lot of dark issues in his past.
It appears, and what I would say is significant here.
And I've said this for some time.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
I believe the date team.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Will you look up the date officially in uh Maine
to pay attention to the timing once it's and I'm
gonna say July twenty second, but it's somewhere in this vicinity.
Once he is the nominee on July twenty second, he
can no longer be removed from the ballot. So his
name is going to be on there against Susan Collins.
(51:42):
Until then then he is still fair game in the
media universe. And it feels to me like Democrats this
is not a Republican thing. It feels to me like
Democrats are still trying to get him off the ballot
because the ideal thing for Republicans is Graham Platner's on
the ballot. And then there are awful stories that come
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out on July twenty second once his name can no
longer be removed, and it makes it highly unlikely that
he's going to be able to win this Senate race.
And so that is what's going on right now. He
has canceled events, and there are a bunch of stories
out there suggesting that the reason he's canceling events is
because they're bracing for another very critical story about his
(52:30):
past to come out, and odds of him dropping out
of this race have surged on Polymarket and Calshi.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
That's what's going on. Now.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Let's take a couple of you want to take a
couple more calls here, Buck before we go to break.
We've got people have been waiting a while. We got
a ton of North Carolinians weighing in today. North Carolina
is going to have one hundred percent viewership on this
US Belgium game going on based on our callers. Jim
in North Carolina? What you got for us?
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Jim? Hello, Yeah, we're waiting for you. Jim.
Speaker 7 (53:08):
Oh, hey, sorry about that guys just down the field,
Hey have an idea for you, marketing idea you think
of the Democratic Party kind of buck you touched on
it earlier. What use are they? They're kind of like
that dysfunctional child, always complaining. If you look at what
they've accomplished the last forty years, it's basically nothing. Look
at the visitors that have come over to this country,
(53:29):
they love it. If our founders were alive, they'd be like,
what's the use of this party? We basically have a
single party country. Here's a new bumper sticker, deport the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
Funny, thank you for the call.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
Look I said this before, Bucket you you kind of
echoed it a little bit too. When I see all
of these foreigners coming to America and posting about how
amazing America is, I really wish we could replace some
of these guys with the people who are here talking
about how awful America is. That are recent immigrant citizens
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whose life is infinitely better than it would be anywhere else.
I want people to love America. How does it seem
like a difficult thing to ask for for people who
are newly in the country.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Do you see some of these Scottish and Japanese and
Bosnian and other tourists discovering BUCkies for the first time
as they're amazed that this thing known as BUCkies exists.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
I mean, there's a childlike wonder. I still have never
been to a Bucki's which is I need to address this.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
I met the owner of BUCkies at a Texas A
and M game. He's a big Aggie fan. I would
put every spare dollar that I have. I don't know
if he ever listen to the program. I don't know
how many BUCkies high level execs ever listen or if
they'll clip this. It is rare that there is a
(55:03):
company that I don't have any involvement in at all, right,
that I have just been able to experience. And if
you told me, hey, Clay, you have the ability to
invest in this company, I would put every spare dollar
I have.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
Into this company.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
They keep opening new BUCkies. It is an experience unlike
any other. Heck, they now buck because I got my Tesla.
I drove my Tesla to Knoxville, Tennessee a few weeks ago.
I had a son doing a football camp at the
University of Tennessee. We took a we took a trip
drove the Tesla up there. BUCkies now not only to
(55:41):
having basically the cheapest gas you can find anywhere. By
the way, gas prices back down as we told you,
they likely would be price of oil and gas on
futures lower than it was before we invaded Iran. BUCkies
now has huge superchargers too, So I plugged in my
Tesla just like I would have if I'd stopped to
(56:01):
get gassed. The Tesla charged twenty minutes full on charge
that allows me to continue my trip. And in the meantime,
I'm walking around in the inside of the inside of
the BUCkies and its swarmed and I would put every
dollar there. But yes, I love these videos that I'm
seeing of all these guys and gals talking about how
much they love things like BUCkies in America. Matt in
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North Carolina, Hello, Yeah, we got you. What's up, Matt?
Speaker 4 (56:31):
All right? Well, I'm preface this by saying I am
not a soccer fan at all. I don't know anything
about soccer. But what I would like to bring up
that I haven't heard is with this guy in question
being suspended. He was born in America, but he was
raised in England because his mom missed the flight to England.
(56:55):
So why are we sticking up for this guy so
badly when he's not helped us, whether it was playing
in high school, here at college. I don't he's.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
Eligible, Okay, I'll answer. He's eligible in three different countries
based on the way that FIFA determines eligibility for representing
national teams. He is Nigerian. His parents are Nigerian. He
was raised in England. His mom was visiting the United
States while she was pregnant. They according to the reports
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that I've read, they determined that she was potentially going
to deliver so soon during her trip that they would
not allow her to leave. And so he was born
in New York City twenty five years ago. She was
legally here and the birthright citizenship law on the books
makes him eligible to play for either England, the United States,
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or Nigeria. He chose to play for the United States.
So what you're really asking is do you have an
issue with the way that FIFA determines eligibility if you're
eligible to play.
Speaker 3 (58:05):
I don't know where you sign off on this book.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
If you are eligible to play for the United States
and you are good at any sport, in the world.
I would like to have you play for the United States.
I would prefer that you not do what the uh?
What's the woman's name? That was the skier that is
born and raised here but also has Chinese citizenship.
Speaker 3 (58:26):
And I lean Gou, I lean goo.
Speaker 2 (58:28):
If you remember that story during the Olympics, she goes
to Stanford, she's born and raised here, she decides she
wants to take money to go play for China. I
would prefer you play for the United States. So that's
the story, the background for that. For anybody who wants
to get into the background of Bolligan, particularly man, I
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