Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Jul 8 2026

Clay Travis and Buck Sexton discuss President Trump’s appearance in Ankara, Turkey, where he addressed NATO allies and discussed a range of international issues. They examined the rapidly deteriorating situation with Iran. The hosts discussed ongoing U.S. strikes, recent Iranian actions in and around the Strait of Hormuz, and Trump’s increasingly hostile rhetoric toward the Iranian regime. Clay and Buck played multiple clips of Trump describing Iranian leaders as untrustworthy, arguing that they repeatedly agree to negotiation terms only to repudiate them publicly afterward. The hosts interpreted Trump’s remarks as a sign that he has largely lost confidence in diplomatic solutions and increasingly views the regime as incapable of acting in good faith.

Trump’s comments about additional military operations received significant attention. The hosts discussed Trump’s indication that further strikes were likely and examined whether the administration is transitioning from negotiation efforts to a long-term strategy of military deterrence and pressure. Buck argued that Iran’s leadership has demonstrated repeatedly that it cannot be trusted to honor agreements, while Clay suggested that ongoing attacks may continue until the regime’s ability to threaten regional stability is substantially diminished. The conversation revolved around military strategy, deterrence, regime behavior, and the limits of diplomacy with authoritarian governments.

Clay and Buck also explored the geopolitical importance of the Strait of Hormuz and its impact on global energy markets. Clay noted that disruptions to shipping traffic and regional instability are already prompting long-term adjustments in how energy producers and consumers think about supply routes. They argued that Iran may be unintentionally reducing its own strategic importance by encouraging nations and companies to seek alternatives to dependence on the strait. The discussion included analysis of oil prices, gas prices, energy infrastructure, shipping security, and the economic consequences of Middle East instability.

The core debate throughout the hour focused on political incentives. Clay repeatedly argued that Platner has little reason to withdraw because becoming the Democratic Senate nominee is arguably the greatest accomplishment of his public life. He suggested that withdrawing would effectively end Platner’s political future while remaining in the race at least preserves a chance, however small, of winning or maintaining influence. Buck generally agreed, emphasizing that if Platner genuinely believes the allegations are false, exiting the race would inevitably be interpreted as an admission of guilt by many voters.

Clay and Buck conduct an in-depth discussion of Iran featuring Heritage Foundation senior fellow Steve Yates. Clay and Buck played recent comments from President Trump, who declared that negotiations with Iran are effectively over, described Iranian leadership in extremely negative terms, and expressed deep frustration with repeated diplomatic failures. Yates argued that Trump has arrived at the conclusion that many longtime Iran observers have held for years—that the Iranian regime cannot be trusted to negotiate in good faith. He suggested that after months of attempting diplomacy, the administration is now returning to a pressure-based strategy centered on military action and economic coercion.

A major topic throughout Hour 3 was the possibility of U.S. action involving Kharg Island, Iran’s primary oil export hub. Clay and Buck questioned Yates about whether the United States could seize, neutralize, or otherwise remove Iranian control over the island. Yates argued that Kharg Island represents one of the most important pressure points available because it directly affects the regime’s ability to generate revenue. He suggested that the United States possesses the technological and military capabilities necessary to control or disable the facility without launching a broader occupation of Iran itself. The discussion focused on military strategy, energy security, deterrence, and the economic foundations of Iranian power.

Clay and Buck debated the proper etiquette for boarding and deplaning aircraft, discussing passengers who immediately stand after landing, those who block aisles during boarding, oversized carry-on bags, checked luggage, overhead-bin etiquette, and seat recliners. Clay argued that passengers should exit by row order and avoid cutting ahead, while Buck defended standing after landing as a way to establish aisle position and prepare for a quick exit. The discussion generated numerous listener calls and strong reactions from frequent travelers.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Every time I hear
that song, I gotta tell you the intro music there.
All I can think about is Beverly Hills cop which,
as everybody knows, is one of the ten best movies
in the eighties. And it's just a great scene, a
great intro government tax stamp. You can't beat that. It's
just fantastic. If you haven't seen Beverly Hills Copper, you
haven't rewatched it in a while. Let me just tell

(00:21):
you go back and enjoy a side note. We're about
to get into Iran and war and peace and the
most important news issues in the world. I have seen
a lot of chatter that this Young Washington movie which
is in theaters is quite good, and they've already.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Announced a sequel. I mean, based on making over twenty
million dollars in week one. Yeah, just fyi, and Ali,
isn't this Angel Studios? Is our man Kevin Sorbo involved
in this?

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Who is this? We should get somebody on from I
think it's an Angel Studios production, And people are saying
it's a great because Clay are our baseline thesis on
this kind of the way that I said that Twitter
starting in twenty eleven, I'm like, so Twitter is boosting
communists and it's a totally rigged game. And people were like,
that's a conspiracy theory, and of course that was true,

(01:11):
and we all knew it was true. Later on all
came out. If you made good movies for the American people,
they don't have to be super expensive. It doesn't have
to be The Transformer seven or Avengers fifteen or Fast
and the Furious thirty five. You can make a movie
about a great story rooted in American history, and just

(01:32):
with good writing and acting, people want to see it.
We are not done with movies. We are not done
with great stories.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
And yes, sir, I accidentally hit a button here trying
to post one of our social media e clips and it.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Went out like Clay gave me the like I thought.
I thought he was about to drop like a bomb
here on the air, like oh guess what, but no,
instead he actually just unked. He unked the board, which
is a thing that he does. Yes, he unked it.
So I just want to give a shout out to
that because I haven't seen it yet. I want to
see it. I'm not going to see the Odyssey we'll
talk more about this. I've seen enough in the previews,

(02:08):
I've seen enough in the in the pregame. I don't
want to contribute to this. I'm also not a Christopher
Nolan guy in general. I like the Batman movies. That
is it. I'm not a fan of his other movies.
I thought they were all ponderous, boring, and really self important.
So I'm not a big Christopher Nolan guy period. But
this Odyssey thing, Clay now not gonna do you see the.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Video of Elliott ellen Page coming out in the suit stamp.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Here is a question. I'm just tossing it out there.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Has anyone changed their gender appearance and looked better as
the new gender? Elliott Page looks like what he She
is a tiny woman pretending to be a man, like
a pre adolescent male. Ellen Page was actually a cute girl.

(03:02):
I just trying to make him Achilles.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Like, maybe's not not Achilles that that was actually uh,
he is in she is in the movie. Whatever. Sorry,
she is in the movie, But I don't think I
don't think as Achilles as some other role. I'm much okay,
but hers, and I'm probably that by the way, that
would have tanked the movie like that actually would have
killed the movie.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I am going to be probably put on some hit list. Uh,
can anyone name a man who has decided to identify
as a woman or a woman who has decided to
identify as a man that looks better? And by the way,
we can almost always tell, right, Like if there's a picture,
always in person. Always photos can be deceiving. And with

(03:49):
AI and filters. Now, sure you know, you know some
of you guys out there who are on dating apps,
watch what you're swiping.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
You don't necessarily know what's going on. But that's two D.
When you get into three D, I always know, you
always know. I just I mean, I think that that
is a good example.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
And maybe Ellen Elliott whatever page is happier now and
that's fine. At least this person waited until adulthood to
make the switch. But I remember, was it Juno the
movie that that she won an act oscar for?

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I think, pretty good movie she was. You know why
liberals hated that movie because because she actually had the baby.
God forbid you actually give life to your child when
you're stretched out about it, because obviously they want everyone
to just abort the baby. It was it was really
really horrific. By the way, this day like, that's the
part of dirty dancing that I'm like, we just kind
of that's just sort of like in the background as

(04:43):
women had to have like a like a you know,
oh I didn't even abortion dirty dancing, and this is
a part of dirty dancing that everyone's like, Oh, it's
such a sweet movie. I'm like, no, it's not. Actually,
it's actually not such a sweet movie. But anyway, shall
we talk? He Ron Now I've learned to get a
movie thing just because the Washington I love that these
YouTubers made this Obsession movie. Apparently it's super violent, so

(05:04):
obviously don't watch that with your kids. I haven't seen
it yet either. There is that one scene though that
maybe does remind me of a couple of ex girlfriends
neither here nor there, where she just goes, you know,
in the restaurant. It's really it's classic. Now, so Obsession
has done super well financially, and I'm just happy to
see an independent movie like that do well. And now
this young Washington movie is apparently great. Uh, I don't

(05:27):
go to why don't we have a thing? There should
be a portal where I'll pay movie ticket price for
a movie like this to watch it at home. Why
isn't that.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I think it will be on streaming very quickly. It
seems like they go to streaming very fast. But I
think there still is a cachet associated with trying to
get people to go to movie theaters. No, I agree,
but you know, I would be happy to pay the
movie theater like I would buy this movie to probably
be at all that you don't want to go to
movie theaters and that you would pay whatever it takes

(05:57):
to not have to be surrounded by other people to
watch movies, so that you could see it in your home,
by yours.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
That does not surprise field, judged everybody. I feel like
I'm being judged right now, a little harsh, But yes,
that is true. I would pay thirty bucks to be
able to watch it at home. I'd pay whatever to
be able to watch it at home. So young Washington,
go check it out. And guys, let's reach out to
the team who's behind that movie, because we should have them.
Want to talk about it all right at Iran, Iran, Iran,

(06:23):
Let's get into it. Trump talked about how look, he says,
we hit him very hard. Yesterday obviously easier to do
these strikes at night. We're hitting them again tonight, he
says Play twelve.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
They are behaving very badly, as they have for forty seven years.
And you know, we hit them hard last night. After
they lunch, they launched a couple of you know, have
to know about this, you got stuff on your mind.
But they launched a couple of drones and one rocket
one missile at chips because they were in the strait,
which they have every right to be. And so we
hit him very hard last night, very very probably hit

(06:56):
him hard again tonight.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
I'll give them a little warning.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
We're gonna hit him hard tonight, so we'll see it
all works out. No, I'm not happy with them. I
think we've made a lot of progress and they'll get
out of the room. We'll talk about it like we're here.
They'll agree on everything, and then they'll go ahead a
news conference and say we never even talked about it.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
The cuckoo. Is something wrong with these people? I mean,
this is kind just say Clay, I have been saying
this all along. These Iranians. People will say, oh, no,
they're rational actors. Well yeah, I mean sometimes Ted Bundy
was a rational actor, but then there was the bad
stuff that he did, right. I mean, you know, there's
they can be rational insofar as they can see their

(07:34):
interests and they but their view of their interests and
what is a good outcome for the region and the
world is dramatically different from ours. They are cuckoo.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, and look, I think one of the big challenges
and we'll play these other cuts too, but I think
one of the big challenges out there is there is
a ration. Based on my reading, there is a rational
element of it that once recognizes that economically they have
been left behind over the last forty seven years and

(08:06):
wants to make rational changes that would theoretically make the
economic situation in Iran better. But there is a hardline
element that is fighting against that.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Buck.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
I also think there's a big story here that is
receiving very little attention. Is the Gayetola even alive. I mean,
he supposedly is the supreme leader. The New York Times
had a bunch of stories where they said, we don't
know what's going on with him. And also, by the way,
he doesn't actually dictate choices anymore. He hasn't shown up

(08:40):
for any of the Mornings surrounding his father, his wife,
and his kid were who all killed evidently in this attack. Now,
to your point, there may be nervousness about him being
in public because he's going to get taken out to
all those things. But I do think that what we're
really seeing happen and play out in Iran is a

(09:01):
battle between somewhat rational Iranian leadership that Trump feels like
we're negotiating with, and then as soon as there's an agreement,
the crazy hardliners come out and immediately undercut any sort
of agreement at all, Which is why I'm back to
do we just say, Israel, maybe you're gonna have to
wipe out some more leadership, and we'll keep killing people

(09:22):
until we find somebody that actually has power that we
can negotiate with.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
The people who are going to take over from those
people are also going to be crazy. They have rooted out.
Nobody in the power structure there with real power is
going to be reasonable. They are all complicit in the madness.
They all hate Israel and the Jews. They all think

(09:48):
America is evil. They all believe the sort of post
colonial everything is America and the West and Israel's fault,
you know, this is the problem. So, you know, I
don't really see where this it goes. I just hope
that we get the gas prices down so or keep
them down, or have them down by election day so
that the lunatic communist Democrats don't take over because of

(10:10):
this war, which unfortunately, it's very clear that they still
can cause problems in the straight or four moves. So
this is we're seeing the reality here, which is that
we were not able to destroy them enough that they
are entirely defanged. But Trump says we're going to hit
them again. Okay, I think we also, Clay have this

(10:32):
idea that, oh, the Iranian people, the suffering of the
Iranian you know, military or the Iranian people overall, is
such that they'll eventually cry uncle their capacity to take fun.
This is why I remember I talked about they used
to have a special brigade in the eighties, not that
long ago. The Iranians, Okay, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps

(10:56):
had a brigade that had this really advanced idea for
clearing minefields with their war of the Rock, which is
how people walk across the minefields. That's who we're fighting, everybody. Okay,
that's who we are up against. They have not gotten
more normal since then. And once you understand that, and
people are signing up for that, they're like, sweet, put
me in the mind clearing role. Then you can see

(11:21):
how much suffering they can take, making them cry uncle
and concede really and a meaningful This is by Clay.
The reason we can't get to deal with them is
Trump keeps saying, Okay, you'll agree to this, and then
this mechanism for enforcement right right, No, No, they'll agree
as long as they can break the agreement. We're going
to keep running back into this. This is gonna be

(11:42):
the constant cycle.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
I think I and most people out there just want
low gas prices. And I think that's the way that
most Americans think about this right now. So my hope
is that we can have some form of normalcy through
the midterms, and then the question becomes how committed is

(12:07):
Trump to really trying to remake the situation in Iran?
And again do we just take the handcuffs off Israel
and say, all right, go kill whoever you want. I mean, here,
by the way, he's talking once again about taking carg Island.
This is fourteen on the list, guys, let's hit this one.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
We're not attacking at the highest level, the highest level
of the bridges there which we can knock down. I
would say, in one day we knocked down every single
bridge interact. There's not a thing they can do the better.
They're electric manufacturing facilities, right or electric plants where they
make their electricity in there.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
We will if we have to take them out. I
don't want to do that, but if we have to,
we'll take them out. They have desalinization plants. We'll take
them out if we have to. Hate to do that.
That's probably the one I would like not to do least.
We attacked car Island last night. We knocked out a piece.
I said, don't touch you up because maybe we'll take
over carg Island.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
We may take over carg Island.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
It's not a thing they can do about her.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
But I said, don't hit the pipes, just hit everything else.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
And they hit it.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
They may hit it again tonight.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Clay, the real question with all that, it's all true
what he says. Of course we could do all those things.
Do the Iranian leaders believe we would do those things,
that Trump would do those things. It's a great question.
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Speaker 2 (14:36):
Welcome back in out number two, Clay and Buck. We're
rolling through the Wednesday edition of the program. All right,
several different things that we are monitoring. What is the
latest going to be on Iran? President Trump has spoken
in Turkey. We are breaking down that Graham Platner is

(14:56):
still the main Senate nominee and uh, I want to
dive into that situation a bit here coming up, and
the hearing on the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk also
is entering its third day. I texted with Donald Trump

(15:16):
Junior just a little bit ago. He is going to
come on the program and talk about what he has
seen as the evidence is being presented in this preliminary hearing,
which would allow the murder trial to follow.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
And so that is coming later this week. But Buck,
let's stalk Graham Platner here first a moment. You tell
me what I'm missing, and I do think this is intriguing.
And also we can come back in on Iran during
the course of this hour as well. And eight hundred
and two two two eight A two, A bunch of

(15:53):
you can weigh in. I've been thinking I've been spending
a lot of time on this grand Platner story, because
I think it really kind of demonstrates democrat complete hysteria
on one hand, and also hypocrisy. It's just, to me,
a perfect story that distills how dishonest they are. They

(16:17):
were willing to overlook a Nazi chess tattoo, they were
willing to overlook the fact that he was sexting half
a dozen people while he was married, that he supposedly
met on this adult site. But it's actually also really
popular with teenagers, this Kick site. I've never really been
on any dating site because this all predated me. But

(16:38):
I'm told that even for people that are online dating,
this kick site is particularly hook up a ball, if
that's a way to describe it, and also very popular
with teenagers. So all of that they're willing to handle.
The New York Times comes out with a story that
suggests that he's been physically abusive with at least one

(17:02):
ex girlfriend, shoved her in a room, locked her in there,
That he would regularly say he would rape anybody who
tried to rob him. We've got all these different Yeah,
not in a gay way, not in a gay way.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
It's important.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
That was his quote, which is one of the craziest
quotes of all time. I would rape anybody who tried
to rob me, but not in a gay way, which
I would encourage even the gay men out there to
explain to me how that's physically possible.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
I don't know. And he's got all these posts on.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Reddit right where he basically goes after black people, people
who have been in armed forces, women like whatever, right
in a very serious way on this reddit forum. Reddit,
for those of you who don't know, is probably is
it fair to say, Buck, probably the along with Blue Sky,

(17:55):
probably the most left wing site on the internet. Reddit
forums are crazy left wing, I think in general if
they banned a lot they did have, like pro Donald
Trump forums, and they basically banned them. I've never posted
on Reddit, really, I haven't spent much time there. But
that's my that's my read on it. Okay, all of
this contextually, all that's true. Grand Platner got ninety percent

(18:20):
of the vote in the Democrat primary last month. Okay,
so Buck, let's pretend that we are we're going into
a dark place here. Let's pretend that we are Grand
Platiner or Grand Platner advisors. If he doesn't drop out
by July thirteenth. He's on the ballot. He's the nominee.

(18:42):
Other than being given millions of dollars, which it may
come to, and he may just say, I'm willing to
take all this money. Grand Platner is an unsuccessful in
all facets of his life so far. His dad bought
his house. He's an oyster farmer who has only one
clock his mom's restaurant. The best thing he has ever

(19:04):
done in his life. Buck is become the Democrat nominee
for Senate in Maine. Yeah, why should he give this up? Like,
doesn't he have all the leverage here?

Speaker 1 (19:14):
What am I missing?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
No?

Speaker 1 (19:16):
I you and I I prefer it when I can
tell you you're crazy. But unfortunately you and I see
this the same way. You're crazy. That Kamala Harris is
smarter than AOC. By the way, none other than our
good friend, extremely astute commentator, our good friend Tommy Larn
has come to my side of this issue. And I

(19:36):
think Tommy is she is an expert on both mocking
Kamala and AOC. To be fair, I think she goes
after them pretty equally. But she says that AOC is
smarter than Kamala. So I'm just saying the evidence is
piling up on my side of that one. But back
to this one where where we actually agree sadly for

(19:58):
the purposes of radio banch. Sure, Uh yeah, if I'm
Graham Platner, there's they would have to I don't think
there's an inducement, because remember, if you drop now and
your Platiner, everything up to this point is kind of
nullified and actually worse than your reputation before, and you

(20:18):
know this whole thing becomes a negative for you. Why
not take it to the end, say that you know
you fought for the people of Maine, even if you
lose to Susan Collins, and even if Democrats say they're
turning on you, you say, well, I'm sorry that they
believed lies about me and I just wanted to do
my best for Maine. I don't know what kind of inducement.

(20:40):
I don't know what threat that they could come up with.
Maybe that's even more appropriate to his reputation and his
future that would be sufficient. If I am him, I
stay in and I see again. If I am him,
which is kind of a scary place to be, I
see it through because you know the only vindication that

(21:05):
he can claim is either winning or taking it to
the end and saying I fought hard for the people
of Maine and I didn't let the untrue allegations derail
my mission.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
I'm surprised there. You and I agree one hundred percent
on this. We're the only people in media saying this.
No one else is saying this, And so my point
on this is, if I'm Graham Platner, First of all,
I don't even buy that Democrats are not going to
support his campaign, meaning national Democrats. If he stays in

(21:41):
the race and he keeps it somewhat competitive with Susan Collins,
all Democrats care about his power? Are you telling me
that in October, if this race is close, and if
the base hasn't abandoned him, which I don't think they would,
That Democrats wouldn't through shell companies or through special interests

(22:02):
that they can disclaim responsibility for that. They wouldn't buy
a bunch of ads on his behalf and suddenly jump
right back on his bandwagon if they thought he was
a path to potential power. They have nothing that they
stand for other than power at this point, as long
as he provides a pathway to power for them. He's useful.

(22:23):
If he does drop out, his basic life is over right.
And I hate to be as crystal about that, but
this is the greatest life accomplishment he's ever had. He's
never going to be able to run for office again.
But if he runs and he loses, I don't know,
fifty three to forty seven, he can come back and
run for governor another day and say, look that a

(22:44):
lot of people still supported me and they didn't believe
these allegations.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Look look, Clay at the way that this played out.
While Joe Biden was president with his son Hunter, the
media were in full blown Pretorian guard. They were like
the they were the janissaries of the Biden family man.
They would do anything to say, not only did Joe

(23:09):
not have dementia, but that all the allegations about Hunter
Biden were overblown, the laptop was fake. And when finally
that didn't work, it was, oh, be sympathetic, he's an addict.
This is about a father's love for his child. Anything.
They would say anything, yes, And then when Joe was
no longer gonna be the guy, it was like, yeah,
maybe Hunter's got to go to prison. He's a scumbag

(23:31):
and he's corrupt. I mean, it's just you know, they
don't care, man, they don't care at all. So the
New York Times, all these things, they do not care
about what's good, what's true, what's ethical.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
This is why you and I see this the same way.
I think, because a lot of people just kind of
follow the herd on this story. Here's a fun question.
Name someone in politics who and Joe Biden. They got
him right, They had him, they forced him out like
they were a he's for himself to be fair, the

(24:02):
whole debating early thing, that was hubris. That was hubris
from Joe and his and his lady Macbeth. Uh, doctor Jill.
That's what happens. It's so true because we said this,
if he had just waited until September, he would have
been on the ballot right when they usually have these debates. Now,

(24:23):
I still think there's a question out there. Did they
not shoot him up?

Speaker 6 (24:28):
With?

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Joe Biden has basically let it be known. We know
that they were juicing him. He would come out sometimes
and he'd have all this vim and vigor and vitality.
He'd be like, that's not Joe. Did they give him
a placebo and he thought he was going to get
shot up, and really we just saw what Biden was
really like.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
I mean, maybe Donald Trump's onto something with his twenty
four diet coke a day.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Maybe you know what I mean, people you know, leaving
aside Joe Biden because obviously that was a different kind
of situation. I think Graham Platner, using the Biden example,
can say, like, if he just came out forcefully and said,
I'm non nominee, main people knew all these lies that

(25:10):
are being told against me, I'm gonna fight against Democrats
and Republicans. Evidently I'm gonna fight for the people of Maine,
not for Democrats, not for Republicans. I'm just saying, if
I were his advisor, He's going to get forty five
percent of the vote, no matter what, Like this idea
that suddenly he's gonna lose.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Like eighty to twenty.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
I mean, they would vote for an actual Nazi in
Maine if it were the guy who's running against Trump
forty five percent of main people at least.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
And I do think the code read on Joe Biden
was actually pushed more by the panic over down ballot
damage than anything else. There's no down ballot damage here
that anybody cares about en Senate race, and so it
turned into Joe, this isn't just about you and the presidency,
which is a much bigger deal than a Senate s
It's about all these other Senate seats, all these House seats,

(26:03):
all these guys mansions, and that then became too much
for the system to bear.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
So if he just comes out buck think about this. Now,
maybe they're debating this, maybe they're not. I just if
he just comes out and says, these allegations are all false.
If I step down, it would be acknowledging that they are.
His career's over as a politician. He's forty two years old,
and he's just gonna vanish in Maine and never have
any Like he's gonna be an unsuccessful oyster farmer for

(26:31):
the rest of his life.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Like he's one good social media speech away from having
just enough stupid Democrats believing him, or wanting to really
more wanting to believe him, from being right back where
he was correct. So my point on this is, I just,
by by the way, he should just say Donald Trump
was accused of rape, and you guys all say that
that's not true. So I was accused too. I'm also innocent,

(26:55):
just like Trump. I'm moving forward. End of story.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yes I'm missing here. This is one hundred billion percent
what he should do.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
I mean, you know, he's our friend and and I
you know, I think the guy's doing a great job.
But Pete Hegseth has accusations against him that I truly believe,
I truly believe are false. And there's a lot of
reason why I can describe that. But my point is,
if I'm Graham Platner, I say, Secretary of Defense, President
of the United States, Look at all Joe Biden was
accused of sexual assault. Look at all these people accuse

(27:24):
of sexual assault. Yeah, we have Brett. I would if
I were Platner, I would be like Brett Kavanaugh. They
turned on Brett Kavanaugh. There wasn't evidence, and he stayed in.
I'm not going to bow to you know, scurlss and
false ack again speaking from the Platiner perspective, because if
you bow out, you are saying I can't beat these

(27:46):
They must be too they must be too legit, they
must be too true.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yes, I mean, I don't know why no one else
is saying this to me. It's a no brainer play.
And by the way, once July thirteenth is here, it's over.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
He's the nominee.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
He only has to make it and deal with all
of this pressure because guess what, as soon as July
fourteenth you wake up, Democrats are not gonna be demanding
that he'd drop out because they have no other options.
So all he's got to do is handle four or
five days more of negative attention. He doesn't even have
to say anything if he doesn't want to.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
He's the nominum. I do a video. I put on
my most frayed trucker hat, I wax out my mustache,
I get me shucking some oysters, and I just say, hey,
you know, I don't let the machine tell me what
to do. I'm an innocent man, and I'm moving forward
for Maine, and you know, end of story.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
And by the way, that's what I would do. You
could also say, look at what happened with Kamala. We
lost every state that mattered when they tried to do
this nationwide.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
I'm not gonna let him do it to Maine.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Like I could write this speech, I could give it
in three minutes.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
We're gonna start getting yelled at for being too helpful
to the Platter campaign. By the way, you know that
right we're about to the talkbacks are about to start
flying on me. But shut up. You got to be honest.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
And also, by the way, I don't like the idea
that someone from five years ago can just come out
or ten years ago, or fifteen years ago or twenty
years ago and say he sexually assaulted me and then
it's just over like you're just supposed to say. Hey,
I mean, whether you're a Democrat or Republican. I don't
like that standard being applied.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, I you know, I think that there is this again.
This is why I think that Platinum probably stays. But
we'll see you got us, hear Cliff.

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Speaker 1 (30:36):
Clay and Bucketing, dear waves, welcome back to play and buck.
What's gonna happen with carg Island? Is Trump gonna hit
Aron against tonight? Very important questions. But I'm I'm going
rogue right now. That's what I'm gonna start calling it,
Clay when I want to throw something random in the mix,
I'm going rogue for a minute here on the show
because I may be flying uh in just a matter

(30:58):
of days, and I think this is going to get
a lot of people. This is going to get a
lot of people fired up. There is a by the way,
it's your favorite Clay Southwest Airlines. Oh yeah, it is,
so I know what side of this you're taking Near
Post Reporting of Southwest Airlines has issued an official The

(31:21):
Dallaspace Airline posted the following message on threads. You won't
get off the plane faster by standing up point zero
zero one seconds after the seat belt sign turns off.
This is about the practice I'd never heard of call
this before up I'll jumping. Yeah. Now this is more complicated,

(31:44):
some people think because I agree, I agree, you won't
get off the plane faster. However, who among us has
not experienced the Oh, I am going to just sit
like a civilized person until it's close to me to
get up. You know, it's close to my turn to
get up in the plane to depart and get off

(32:07):
the aircraft. And I'm about to stand up now and
pull from my overhead bin, perhaps my one bag, because
I'm a civilized person who doesn't bring ten bags with him.
And I try to go, and then you have that rush.
It's like the running of the bulls at Pamplona, every
which were just just trying to push past you. The

(32:29):
barbarians rushing through the gate while you, trying to be civilized,
are all of a sudden, deeply inconvenienced, and it's quite rude.
Where do you come down? What is the proper thing
to do when you land? By the way, not clapping? Okay,
we don't clap that we're not all dead. Beyond that,

(32:53):
that's point one point two? Should you just should everyone?
If you try to sit, what about the people who
still stand up in the eye everyone.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I will civilize all airline travel with several basic rules.
And I'm one hundred billion percent right on this, And
if you disagree, you are in the wrong. First of all,
everyone exits in their row order. There are subtle variations
that could change. For instance, I'll give you one right
general rule, and then there are exceptions sometimes on Southwest flights.

(33:26):
And I have not trying to brag here. Currently two
point five million Southwest Airline points I am in.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
I've got to be in the nine.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
I should get to shake the hand of every pilot
every time I'm on a Southwest airline.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
So I'm not kidding about this.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
In my Southwest Airlines account, I have two point five
million Southwest Airline points. That has to put me in
ninety nine point nine percentile of Southwest Airlines. Flyers get
off in the order in which your seats are there.
Do not try to skip ahead. Exception, sometimes they will
come on and say, hey, there are twenty people on

(34:03):
this flight that have to catch a connecting flight. We're
asking everybody to remain seated so people who have to
immediately go to catch a flight can get off first.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
That's and you know people cheat though on that right,
which I think if you cheat, if you're one of
those people, by the way, yes, a special place at
Hell for you when you pretend you have a connection
so you can just smoke on buy everybody on the plane.
I'm not saying everyone does that. I'm saying there's always
one or two when they go by to you.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Can kind of tell most people are going to agree
with me on that second point. You should never check
a bag. Ever, I'm just gonna be straightforward on this.
I don't know if you sign off on this. There
are a lot of women who are gonna be angry
about this. One buck. I would be fine going into
any city that I am going into and just buying

(34:53):
a new shirt and a new pair of shorts. You
can go to Old Navy and you could buy forty
shirts and eight pairs of pans and it costs like
twenty six dollars. Okay, like you can make up a
whole brand new wardrobe with I. So I forgot, you know,
I was in New York for a media event for
US SO with Barrett. Media was great, but I forgot
to bring like person with a job clothing which was not.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Flies on my on my part. All I had were
like sweatpants, T shirts and shorts, because you know, that's
how that's how I roll. I went into this place, Clay,
I swear first time ever in my life that was
near our studio. I just typed in closest place I
can get, like pants uniclothe. I went in there. You
have you ever been in one of these.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Places to be rand? But what did it cost you
to buy new clothes? I bought pants were like thirty
bucks and they were nice. By the way, they're very nice.
But beyond that, I've also never felt so old in
my life. I feel like everyone shopping in there was
like sixteen, and I was like the old guy, like do.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
These pants have a tight hem? Can someone explain to
me whether there's an elastic waist pan version?

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Unless you are a fashion model, no one cares what
you wear. That much, right, Like I understand if you
are the head of Gucci, like what clothes you travel
with matter, people are going to judge you for it.
You can go buy off the rack and you will
be fine. The standing and waiting for your bag like

(36:22):
a member of cattle and hoping that somebody remembered to
put it on. God forbid your check. You're having to
go to another airport and hope that your bag gets
there so that you can wear whatever crappy clothes you
happen to pack. It's not worth it, pack less if
you have to buy something. Clothes don't cost that much,

(36:44):
all right, So one bag, put it in the overhead
if you can't travel with one. And look, if you're
going to you know, if you're going to wait to
college for eight months, you should drive in a car, right,
like you can't go to college, or if you're moving
to a new city. I'm not talking about that. I'm
talking about going for somewhere for like a vacation or
a weekend trip.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Here's so we we got off. We got off the
topic though of So what do you do on the
plane When I immediately stand I immediately stand up. So
you're a quick standard. You're you're a quick standard. Well,
I always go aisle. So I'm getting old.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
I want to stand up and I like, I want
to stretch out the hamstrings and everything else.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
I unbuckle the minute.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
You know what happened to me this this past flight
that I took over to Mount Rushmore this weekend. Buck
a woman the flight attendant came around. You know what
they say, put your phone in airplane mode. Yeah, I
never put on alane. No one does it, okay, no
one does it.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
The flight attendant stood over me and made me put
my phone in airplane mode.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
She knew who you were. She was a lib and
she enjoyed every second of it. She said, sir, is
your phone in airplane mode? I was like, yeah, we're fine.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
She said, let me see you put it in airplane
I've never had it happen. A woman across the aisle
for me was like, I've never seen this happen. I
was like, have you ever seen this happen before? A
flight attendant. First of all, the airplane mode does nothing,
all right, Like you're not gonna bring the plane down
because your iPhone is not an area.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
It's a stoop. It's the whole thing is absurd, and
we're gonna get pilots who were like, but it could
theoretically no, yeah, but like ducks could also fly in
the engines at the same time, Like can't. We can't
worry about this, all right, that's not that's crazy, okay.
But I have one more for you, since we're talking
about the quick standers, which is a thing that I've
just made up, which should probably catch on because that's
what it's a quick stand, right you. Instead of quickstand,

(38:37):
you immediately stand up as soon as it as soon
as the plane lands, like right away. The people who
are always blocking the lane when it's not their turn
when they're boarding by, you know, like one through seven
or one through eight. Yes, and you're like, okay, I'm
in zone three or I'm in zone five, it is

(38:57):
now my time to go up. And you're like, you're
like shouldering around all these people who are right where
they're supposed to walk in and they're like unzoned eight,
and you're like, is this your first time on an airplane?
Is this the first time you've ever done this before?
Like if it is, that's okay, But if it's not,
we have to have a talk.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yeah, you're blocking everything. It's a bad problem. The Southwest
has done away with the A, the B, the C,
which I thought worked pretty well, and now they have
all these zones. Nobody has any idea. It's like, no,
I'm out there. Uh, one more for you, buck. I
flew Hawaiian Airlines back and I was in a window,
which is not my ideal choice. All the way back

(39:38):
in coach. I'm not kidding. I might have had two
inches of space for my knee knees. I'm six foot.
They're like, I'm huge. I'm six foot. The guy in
front of me reclined. We have got to end all
reclining on unless you're flying to Europe. And it's like, hey,
everybody's going to sleep lining your seat on another man

(40:02):
who is around normal size, he might as.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Well, you know what I mean, You might as well
just snuggle up to you.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
I can't even bring down my tray then, so there
there might no reclining, don't check your bags, and no
jumping to try to save eight seconds on deplaning. Uh.
And by the way, let me also add this, I'm
gonna give a positive Men should offer to put bags
up in the overhead bin more than men offer to

(40:30):
put up in the overhead.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Ben we we it's your opportunity to be in everyday
hero all the time. But I will say you will occasionally,
you will occasionally come across a female. Yes, notice I
didn't say lady. A female who is like insulted by
the notion that she needs help. That is another thing

(40:52):
that will happen. And I'm fine with that.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
If you're insulted because I'm too kind to you, that's
on you, not me. I see some men, able bodied
men women, and I will say, you're bringing a bag
that's too big to be fair, But they are trying to.
I mean it's like they have to muscle every ounce
of their physical strength to get the bag up high enough.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
It can be dangerous for bystanders too, because then you
have the you have the wobbly, the wobbly bag pusher
who all of a sudden you're oh huh, and like
they're like women and children nearby who might get hit
by this bag. Now, my wife and your wife not tall.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
It's actually a heavy like it's not only in the lift,
it's also quite a bit taller if you're a normal
sized man. This is my charge to all of you
offer to help women put their bags up more frequently
if you're in the aisle, trying to always sit in
the aisle because at least you have a little bit
of more movement and space. The literally the least you

(41:51):
can do is try to help them by the way,
it's faster. Oftentimes you know what happens, buck women try
to get those bags up, and then they put it
in the wrong way right so the overhead doesn't shut,
So then they're standing up there trying to change it
like eight different ways, especially by the way elderly women
even more difficult. Men should offer to help women get

(42:13):
their bags in the overhead more than we do.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
I think the only time I actually started to become
in favor of like the Chinese social credit system they
have where it's like every aspect of your life is
on you know, is data that is collated and ready
for the government. Is when it comes to flying, it
should be almost like a driver's test, Like you should
be able to show that this isn't the first time

(42:38):
you've ever done this, and like you're not going to
show up at TSA with six diet coke bottles in
your bag. Look, you can't bring these on the plant,
and then you're not going to.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Like to be fair, it's been twenty five years since
nine to eleven, a quarter of a century, right, This
is the only advantage to TSA pre check is in
general people have flown on airplanes before in the TSA
pre check line. The number of people. This is why
we can't change rules twenty five years after nine to eleven.

(43:08):
I can't bring my gun. No, No, it's you can't
just walk through. You just can't walk through with your gun.
Like the rules are not that complicated.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Learn them. Yeah, I agree, I agree with all that.
But yeah, quick standards. Getting heat from Southwest, they're saying,
don't you don't need to stand I don't know. I
think I want to establish I think I have to
establish my aisle control right away. And I think everyone
knows that because otherwise you just allow people to to
just cut past you, because that's what they do. Because

(43:37):
the world is a cruel, hard place. It's a jungle
out there, and there are barbarians in our midst. All right,
we'll close out here. Maybe we'll solve the Iran problem.
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Clay end Buck gets going right now than being here
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podcast Network show Nation States with Yates, which is awesome.

(45:15):
Definitely go check that one out, guys, mister Yates. Pleasure
to have you. As always, I wanted to have you
react to we played as the first hour of the program,
but I wanted to have you react to what Trump
has said as of this morning on the Iran negotiation situation,
guys play seventeen.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
To me, I think it's over. I don't want to
deal with them, and then with this scum. You know
what scum is there? Scum, there's sick people. They're lit
by sick people and the vicious, violent people, and if
they had a nuclear weapon, they'd use it. As far
as I'm concerned, it's over. I'll speak to our negotiators.
They want to negotiate. They're good people, Steve Woodcuff, Jared Kusher,
but they have to come back to me. As far

(45:53):
as I'm concerned, it's just a waste of time dealing
with them.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
They're liars.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
We make a deal, and if I make a deal
with him, have a deal, and he goes out, he talks,
We make a deal, everyone's agreed, no nuclear weapon. We
make a deal. They go outside, talk to the press.
They say, we never even talked about it. There's something
wrong with them. They're cuckoo. Far as I'm concerned, it's over.
They're bad people, and frankly, I don't want to waste
my time with him now. I'll let our wonderful negotiators

(46:18):
keep talking if they want.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
But I don't see it. I don't like these people.
You know that they're sick people. There's scum yates. Doesn't
sound like this is about to get to a happy ending.
What where did Steve go?

Speaker 2 (46:42):
He talked a we're gonna get back him back up?
We got the videos. Just FYI. We're gonna have three
hours of video. That probably means that we'll have now
opportunity to have tech failures on both video and audio,
which is, you know, something that may happen.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
We live. Very few people do this live three hours video, radio, everything.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
But the positive is most of the time this will work,
and we will be able to be everywhere six hundred
radio stations, satellite radio, and now you'll have a video
version of the program for those of you out there
that want to stream it on YouTube. We're gonna have
it lots of other places. Is Steve back up and rolling?

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Now? Did the Iranians? Okay? So they're gonna try to
get the Iranians knocked off? As comms Clay, the Gayetola
as you call him, clearly running a cyber op against
Yates so that he cannot explain the next step to
defeat Iran.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
On the show The Gay Atola, we got Steve Yates back.
I don't know if he heard your question, Buck, but
basically we were saying, Trump says Steve that he can
no longer trust in any way Iran. What happens now?
What is the next step? So far as you can see.

Speaker 6 (48:03):
It, well, Clay, I mean, really, for a lot of
us that have deep experience in this, we're not surprised
that the president arriving at this point, but can sort
of forgive him for having been impeached multiple times and
butchered by the establishment, that he wants to experience some
of these things for himself when he's asked why he
said that it was the negotiations were going well before
and why they're so bad now, It is because I

(48:23):
got to know them, and I think he did, and
so he's arrived at the correct judgment. We had lifted
some of the economic pressure temporarily. The Treasury Department put
that back on yesterday. The President may clear, we're hitting
them last night and tonight, and so I think we're
back to basics. The main question is how much further

(48:44):
can we degrade the IRGC, that is the revolutionary Guard,
that's the most radical element that has military capability, and
he's trying to beat them down into a place where
we can maybe get some kind of a management routine.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
So the options that are being discussed now, Steve, are
still things that we've heard. There are things we've heard
about before. But for example, the one that really sticks
out to me, I just I don't believe, and more importantly,
I don't think the Iranians believe. And if you disagree,
by all means, Steve, let us know that Trump is

(49:22):
going to blow up their desalinization plants and blow up
all their power plants. I don't think he's going to
do that carg Island though. To me that I put
in the more of the realm of the possible. Do
you assess that similarly, And if we were to do
the carg Island operation, what would that look like and

(49:43):
could we pull it off?

Speaker 6 (49:45):
Well, we always could have pulled it off. It was
a little bit of a mystery to me why that
wasn't early in the mix. There probably was a reason
that it was just beyond my line of sight. I
see it identically then that I don't think he's wants
to nuke essentially the civil infrastructure of the country. That
creates a whole range of uncertainties that could be problems

(50:07):
for our allies, could be problems for us, And so
I think he wants to try to focus on degrading
the militancy. And I think we can do a lot
of that by doing what they've been doing along the coasts.
They can hit deeply into the military decision making process.
They've hit the manufacturing. The carg Island part should be
the game overpoint, because that is what allows the regime

(50:31):
to fund and survive, and I think that we have
some capabilities in place to be able to do it
with minimal risk of casualties, and so.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
It would four star General Yates in our in our scenario,
would four star General Yates tell the president, mister President,
we should do this, we should take car guy. Look,
that's the only logical next step. Where do you put it?

Speaker 6 (50:51):
I would I would put I would put that very
high on the list. Now, first, for me, the absolute
priority is we have to prove that anyone can and
move the in the Straits and that if they're fired upon,
the enemy is greased immediately. That just has to be
the case, because we have got to get have to
demonstrate the freedom of navigation matters. I think carg Island

(51:13):
is a longer term step. It means that they pay
a price for the ropodope that they've used on the
President for these several months. And it's not invading and
occupying Iran proper. It's an island, and so I think
it falls short of the red line of no invade
and occupy, but imposes a cost that I think most
of the world, and I think most Americans would agree

(51:34):
they deserve to pay.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Okay, I'm fascinated by this, and Buck and I were
talking about it a little bit earlier. So two parter
for you on the carg Island front one? Do you
believe that we would be able to take carg Island
and continue to basically produce, refine whatever is necessary Iranian
oil and gas to keep going onto the market. Not

(51:57):
dissimilar in some ways to what has happened in Venezuela, right,
except in Venezuela we had Delsea Rodriguez who was a
partner that would work with us. Is that possible in Iran?
That's part one?

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Part two?

Speaker 2 (52:10):
And I asked Buck this earlier. You're dealing with crazy
people on some level in Iran. Is it possible that
if we seized carg Island that Iran elements of Iran
might decide, Okay, fine, we'll just blow up our own
oil and gas infrastructure.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Are they that crazy? That's two big ones?

Speaker 6 (52:32):
Well, I think that second big one is legitimate in
front and center. I think we can't put that at
a zero probability. In fact, I do think there's a
sort of suicidal element to this cult that runs this
theocratic state. And so if they perceive themselves to be losing,
and I do perceive them to be losing, then they
would potentially reach for things like that. So to me,

(52:53):
carg Island, the value is taking it off the table
for them. The United States of America will survive if
Cargo Island does not exist, and so taking it away
from them, I think is step one. If it could
be used in the Venezuela sense, that's an intriguing probability,
one that we have to have a high sense that

(53:13):
President Trump would be interested in exploring. But the security
of that is very, very problematic because of its geographic
proximity to Mayland, Iran. So to me, it's first take
it out of their hands, prove that that can be done,
and see whether we've got a different set of facts
to deal with with this regime.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Do we Buck a question on this?

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Do we have any idea how many people it would
take to take carg Island. We're talking about how many people.
You may have lost him again, I think the Gaetola
might really be trying to take out Steve here because
you've given us some good information. The question that I asked,
I mean, Buck, I think is a huge part of this.

(53:54):
It is how many people would need to be involved
in order to secure car Island?

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Right? Well? Would the taking it? I think is a
lot easier than the holding it most likely because Okay, Steve,
you're gonna you're gonna run us through the operation to
take carg Island. Strap on your helmet, get out your
M four.

Speaker 6 (54:12):
What happens, Well, no one hired me to be a
special ops general, but I would say, you know, basically
your ways of decisions. I mean, there's a lot that
we can do with technology without having to risk the
lives and well being of our troops. And so there's
a lot that we can do to make this island
go silent, and then once it's silent, sort of like

(54:32):
we used to say in the Vietnam War, we rule
the night, and so we have abilities that no one
else has. And just like when they went into Venezuela
to invite Maduro to peaceably come to the United States
of America to face justice, there are things that we
can do. I don't think it is beyond the realm

(54:52):
to to do it with low risk of casualties, heavy
emphasis on technology and unmanned kinds of platform and really
again the question would be do you just leave it
to rot, do you try to operate it? Or is
it going to just be blown up?

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Speaking of Steve, Yates, Nation States with Yates as his
podcast and all things national security. Where do you see
this going Steve? Now I'm asking for crystal ball Yates?
Where do you think this goes next? I mean, the
President clearly very frustrated, but also it doesn't seem like
to me he's surprised. Right, There's a lot of frustration,
but not a lot of surprise in his tone, So

(55:33):
he knew that this was a possibility. What do you
think the next ninety days looks like and how confident
are you in the oil price situation continuing to be
at a reasonable stable place.

Speaker 6 (55:49):
Well, that gets first and foremost. We have to demonstrate
that we're escorting and providing security for vessels to move
through the Strait and it's more of annoyance fire from
the ir at this point, and we should be able
to help descend against that. We should be able to
pressure allies to step in and do more to defend
against that. That will have a bigger impact on oil
markets than wither this regime and these on a gin

(56:12):
off again cease fires. Now, I think that basically the
President is intent on something them pretty hard and seeing
whether they're going to come back and get serious, and
he says he doesn't have any more use for negotiations,
but he seems to have an endless appetite for searching
for deals, and so I think he's trying to change
the fact pattern. See where we are, But I think

(56:36):
it's important that we fundamentally degrade the IRGC in this
season of the next week or so. See what's going
on in the straight in the next week or so,
and do we have to move on carg Island in
the next week or so. If we don't have any
meaningful change on those variables over that period, then we're
just sitting I think, spinning wheels.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Who's going to win the World Cup?

Speaker 6 (56:58):
Steve Well, I know that you have planted the flag
on the country that we defeated in the Revolutionary War,
But I have to say that I am among the
many that have been taken in by the Viking, who
is the most charismatic figure of.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
This World Cup. I would say, oh yeah.

Speaker 6 (57:18):
And I think there are not odds on favorite Clay
may know better these odds of this foreign sport to
me known as soccer. But I have to say it's
been much much more interesting than I expected, and I
am all for a team Norway at this point.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Wow, the Vikings will row their way to victory. I'm
gonna tell you, Steve, that would be a heck of
a prediction. So let's see. Let's see how that one goes, right, amazing.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Of course, we're only reminding me by the way, Buck France, Spain, Argentina,
England are the top four. Then Norway as the fifth
most likely to win the World Cup at this point.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
There you go, Steve Yates. Everybody go check out Nation
States with Yates. Here we go. Thank you so much, Steve,
Thank you.

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