Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Aug 3 2026

Clay Travis and Buck Sexton discuss the growing resistance within women’s sports to transgender participation policies. They repeatedly referenced Sophie Cunningham’s comments and the reaction they generated across the WNBA and sports media. Clay argued that allowing biological males to compete in women’s leagues undermines competitive fairness and opportunities for female athletes, while Buck suggested that many athletes and coaches privately agree but are hesitant to speak publicly due to fear of professional consequences. The hosts also examined comments from Caitlin Clark, interpreting her response as an attempt to avoid becoming embroiled in a politically charged controversy.

An extended interview with former NFL sideline reporter and Minnesota U.S. Senate candidate Michele Tafoya, who described attending a Minneapolis rally supporting women’s sports and protecting female athletic opportunities. Tafoya detailed clashes between supporters of women’s sports and transgender activists, arguing that the debate centers on fairness, biology, Title IX protections, and preserving opportunities for female athletes.

Clay and Buck have an extended discussion of New York City mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani’s proposal for government-run grocery stores, which the hosts criticized as an example of socialist economic planning. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton focused on reports that shoppers would need identification to access discounted groceries at city-operated stores, arguing that the policy highlighted what they viewed as contradictions within Democratic positions on voter ID laws. The hosts examined the economics of taxpayer-subsidized grocery programs, debating whether such stores could function sustainably and suggesting that government-funded discounts would ultimately shift costs onto taxpayers while distorting normal market incentives.

The program transitioned into a cultural and media-focused conversation with conservative comedian and commentator Arynne Wexler, who joined the show in studio. Wexler discussed her rise in conservative comedy, the challenges of performing politically themed stand-up in liberal entertainment environments, and her experiences building an audience through social media. She reflected on leaving New York City, described frustrations with how COVID-era policies were implemented, and argued that many Americans remain dissatisfied with how pandemic restrictions, messaging, and public health guidance were handled.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show, often known.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
As Clay and Buck. Thanks for rolling with us on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
I will say.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Producer Ali told me the colors that I should be wearing,
and some of them are, you know, like I shouldn't
be wearing white shirts, which knocks out a lot. I'm
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Speaker 1 (00:49):
And to that end, let me just tell you our
friend Aaron Wexler. Some of you know her. I've had
her on the Buck Brief podcast many times.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
She is a.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Fast rising conservative female comedian and she's super smart too
political comments here. She'll be with us at the end
of the show today third hour, but also is gonna
stay with us for a special YouTube hangout session YouTube
only post show. So today is a great day for
you to begin your Clay and Buck YouTube experience. Check

(01:21):
us out on the video There, Aaron will be taking
live questions. It'll be a lot of fun. She's actually
gonna be with me in studio here in Miami. Her
and my wife are friends. There may be some cookies made.
It's gonna be great. It's gonna be great. Now we
have Clay a bunch of big stories for everybody's enjoyment.
First of all, Mam Donnie's New York. We have Mom
Donnie talking about how you have to show ID to

(01:43):
get the special on the Wonderbread. Okay, if you're going
to go into one of the one of the Bolshevik
bodegas that Mam Donnie is opening up, you are going
to have to show ID.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
We'll discuss that.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
A prominent left of center podcaster who is also on
Bill Mara Think this past week, he has expressed surprise
that Mom Donnie is running a revolution that will devour
people irrespective of their political affiliation. The commis come for everyone. Essentially,
we'll discuss that Clay. We had Trump at Air Force one,

(02:17):
some funny stuff from him, some policy stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Also, what was it, Oh, Dana bash I never get
her name right, Dana Bash.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Right doing her thing on CNN and getting absolutely lit
up by RFK Junior. You will enjoy that. If you
have not heard it, we will play that for you
in a little bit. But I come to you today
to discuss something that I would not have assumed going
into August of the summer, Clay would be the biggest
story in the country. Let's just set the table for

(02:47):
a second. Then you can tell everybody why this has
turned into such a freak out situation. A member of
the WNBA's is it the fever that she's on?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Is that right? Yes?

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Cunningham Trophie Cunningham, who is a blonde haired white woman
who is very.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Good looking and in the w NBA.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
She said she doesn't think dude should I'm paraphrasing, but
she doesn't think dude should play in the.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
W n B. A.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Now, this has resulted in a in a collective left
wing freak out, a trans Live Matter movement trans Lives
matter movement, if you will, and all of these coaches
and all these professional athletes saying completely insane things. Clay,
shall we start with Golden State Valkyries head coach here?

(03:35):
This has cut three. Should men be able to play
in the w n b A, and this is what
it is said.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Playing for me, sports is about belonging. It's about inclusivity.
It's about allowing everyone to be their authentic self. You know,
I'm big on that, just because I have been criticized
for my height.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
For my ethnicity.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
I've been in those you shouldn't belong here many times,
and for me, I don't want that space, especially Golden State,
to ever feel like that. So I'm all about women,
little girls deserving to play, and that includes trans women.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
So I'm all about inclusivity.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Okay, I'm all about inclusivity. Buck, Men should be able
to play in women's sports. All of this coming out
of Sophie Cunningham's just standing up and saying women's sports
should be for women. Let me play a couple of
more cuts here, because this story exploded over the weekend
and left wingers are truly dying on the hill of

(04:35):
men pretending to be women are actually women, and many
of those are liberal white women like Indiana Fever coach
Stephanie White. I don't know if you heard this clip Buck,
She was asked if men should be able to play
in women's sports her thoughts about it by an OutKick reporter.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
This is what she said.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
She said, She's not educated enough, Buck, from a scientific standpoint.
This is a real answer from a grown adult women's coach.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Cut seven.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
I don't know that I would say that I'm educated
enough from a scientific standpoint. I don't ever believe that
exclusion is an answer.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
I just don't.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
I do think, you know, when we think.

Speaker 6 (05:12):
About various levels of sport, on various governing bodies of
sport and things that go into that, Like I said,
I'm not educated enough at the different levels. I know
growing up, I played with the boys all the time.

Speaker 7 (05:23):
So you girl sports, would you welcome a biological mail
in WNBA.

Speaker 6 (05:27):
Again, It's like, I don't know when we talk about
biological male and scientifically where we are. I think it's
a totally different scenario. You know, as I said, I'm
not educated enough in terms of transgender and transitioning to
give you to give you a smart answer. I would
say though, that I just don't feel like exclusion is
an answer, and I think that we need to have deeper,

(05:47):
more layered conversation.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Okay, Buck, This woman graduated from Purdue University Go boiler
Makers five Beta Kappa and was one of the academic
All Americans. From all intents and purposes, she is a
very intelligent woman, quite well educated. She's afraid of speaking
out and saying the truth. By the way, there's other
elements of this too. The women's basketball coach for the

(06:12):
Minnesota Links coached against Sophie Cunningham's Indiana Fever team. She
wore a protect trans Kids shirt on the sideline during
the game. Buck, and she said she spoke out about
this as well. Here she is cut one saying we
need to protect trans kids.

Speaker 8 (06:34):
I don't think we should feel like our safe space
is being threaten. That's what I enjoy about the WNBA,
and I think we have to continue to safeguard that.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
I come from a space of.

Speaker 8 (06:42):
Conclusion, and the narrative that I think that is problematic
is to suggest that number one, that transgender athletes are
the biggest problem in women's sports. And I think this
is what's bother saw is that there's a faction of
people in our country that are making this amassive issue.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
We have some issues.

Speaker 8 (07:07):
Number one, we need to protect trans kids, every kid.
For me, it's a human rights issue.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Okay, buck, these people are crazy.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Okay, So this is this is what's really important. I
have two observations for you on this clay, because you're
you're you're touching on zero point one there, but I'll
take that.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Second.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
First is notice how when these people who take this
position speak, they all do so like they are a
cult member or like they're honestly in some totalitarian communist country,
speaking about the glories of the grain harvest and how
this year will be more than the last year and

(07:50):
the year after that will be more even though everyone
is starving. Like they they're clearly saying things that they
do not believe, and they're grasping for the jargon. See
it sounds like jargon. They're using this word inclusive, exclusive, inclusive, exclusive.
They're just leaning on these things to try to signal
to people, please don't attack us, like, please don't come

(08:12):
after me. I will do what the cult demands. I
will do what the trans Lives Matter movement is demanding.
Of me here, right, because no one speaks the way
that they speak normally. They're trying to fall back into
these can phrases and things like, well, I'm not a
biology expert. You don't need to be a biology expert
to know that a penis is not a vagina and

(08:34):
a vagina is not a penis. You can actually know
that without being an expert. And so, yes, the team
is pointing out these are manufactured delusions, which is why
the book is still doing so well. Thank you, but Clay,
the second part of this is this is what you
touched on. Yes, trans people who think that they should
play against women because they're really women.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
They have a mental health issue. This is very obvious.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
The DSM four, i think, treated it as such out
of the DSM five. Because psychiatrists are, unfortunate, the most
left wing of any medical profession, they've like changed this
and it's no longer generous for you.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
They're clearly there's something they're having a problem, they need help.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
But there is a mentally ill cohort around them of
millions of people who are left wing and brainwashed who
will go along with this. And that's what you actually
see happening here. It's not just the delusion of the
individual who is trans it is the people around them
who will fight on their behalf for this.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Okay, Buck, I've got two aggressive moves that I am
undertaking here, and I'm one hundred percent serious about this,
and I'm going to share both of them with you.
First of all, I will buy a WNBA expansion franchise.
As the primary owner of that franchise, I will bring

(09:53):
them to my hometown where I do this show from Nashville, Tennessee.
We will call them Well, I'll get to that in
a second. I will pledge that one hundred percent of
my team will be trans. That will be men pretending
to be women. Our entire coaching staff will be trans
that is, men pretending to be women. We will not

(10:15):
lose a single game. There are probably some games, Buck,
where we will not even give up a single point.
I will call this team the Nashville Balls, and I
will become a dynastic sports owner. In addition to continuing
to do this show with you and all my other
shows and all my other companies, I will own a

(10:36):
WNBA franchise. I will buy it, and I will play
only men who identify as women. Wear wigs or run around,
do whatever we need to do to be officially classified
as identifying as women. This is what they're now saying
is permitted. I will do it. I will buy a team.
I'll put my money where my mouth is. Secondly, before Buck,

(10:57):
you remember I offered a million dollars if the WNBA
champ which is right now, the Las Vegas Aces. I
believe if they would play a boys' high school state
championship team of my choosing, I would give a million
dollars to the winning team. Buck, I will now give
ten million dollars to the winning team. We will put

(11:20):
this on pay per view. We will send all the profits,
of which there will be probably tens of millions to
Tunnel to Towers T two T dot Org. Are good
friends there for mortgage free homes for veterans, the families
of veterans, first responders, police people who have lost their
lives defending this country. Ten million dollars. I will wheel

(11:42):
it out. I don't even know how much space. Ten
million dollars, will dump, truck it out, put it in
the arena. A boys' high school team will get ten
million dollars if they win the WNBA. They say that
they're underpaid, they say that they're as good as men.
Let's decide it once and for all. And I think
you have to be hyperbolic to respond to the absurdity here,

(12:04):
because if you are not, then they will just continue
to chirp, They'll continue to talk. So I think you
have to put money behind your words. I am taking
them at their words, and I will put ten million
dollars boys high school team state champ of my choice
versus WNBA, and or I will also purchase a WNBA

(12:26):
franchise and only play men who identify as women, and
that is the trans community in the WNBA. I doubt
that the WNBA will respond to this, but this is
real money on the table in a significant way, and
I think what it does is it forces them to
justify in some way their positions. It also draws even

(12:46):
more attention. I think this is important, by the way,
because we said this before. Trump won the twenty twenty
four election largely on the issue of men and women's sports,
and some people say, well, it's not that serious. In
the grand scheme of things, you will hear a lot
of people tell you defend the idea of men and
women's sports, while simultaneously saying I don't know why you care.
Why do you care so much? It's because of this.

(13:09):
If you will lie to me about this, then I
can't trust you on anything else. It is a gate
keeping to me, a test of your basic honesty. If
you are arguing to me that men are the equivalent
of women, or that men belong in women's sports than
every other political position that you have, I cannot trust

(13:29):
you because you are willing to lie to me about
something that is as basic as biology. So my double
challenges are out there. They are now public. I have
tweeted them. We can clip it, we can share it
on YouTube, and we will see buck whether anybody is
willing to actually stand behind the arguments that they are
making when there are actually dollars at stake here, and.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
We'll take your calls. Eight hundred and two two two
eight a two.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
We may have to start creating Nashville Balls WNBA champion gear,
which maybe will probably sell quite well. I've always been
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(15:29):
Clay and Buck owning the airwaves.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Welcome back in Clay and Buck.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
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(15:55):
all of you on the podcast. More coming as we
can continue to grow in our outreach. We go up
now to Minnesota where Senate candidate on the Republican side.
Also former NFL sideline reporter Michelle Tafoya is with us
and Michelle the amount of interest in the Sophie Cunningham

(16:21):
decision to say men shouldn't be able to compete in
women's sports and then the fallout in the WNBA has continued.
There were protests and supportive rallies in Portland. There were
protests and supportive rallies in Minneapolis. You were at the
rally yesterday in Minneapolis with among others, our friend Jennifer

(16:41):
Say who runs xxx Y, our friend from OutKick, Riley Gaines,
and many others. What was that like? Take us to
that location. Describe the scene.

Speaker 9 (16:54):
When we pulled up.

Speaker 10 (16:55):
We were driving up to the spot and we saw
these the the protesters on the other side. So we
saw the flags, and we saw the bullhorns, and we
were thinking, where's Jen.

Speaker 9 (17:06):
Where's Jen? Say?

Speaker 10 (17:07):
So I texted her, so where are you? She said,
I'm with these people. So we went back, we got
out of the car, we walked over there, and I
would say numbers wise, we outnumbered them, but they of
course out volumed us. They had a couple of bullhorns,
and the things that they would do were very typical

(17:28):
of leftist protesters. They would play their sirens sound through
the bullhorn so that we could not be heard. They
would just shout obscenities. You saw in the video some
of the people trying to pull t shirts out of
people's hands, just obscene signs, the things that they were
calling us.

Speaker 9 (17:46):
It was quite something.

Speaker 10 (17:48):
At one point, guys, I felt like probably it was
nineteen oh one, because.

Speaker 9 (17:53):
We were chanting let women speak, Let women speak.

Speaker 10 (17:57):
And I was sitting there thinking to myself, my gosh,
this is bizarre. We are asking people to just let
us speak. And every time we even tried to huddle
our group just to have like a little pep talk
within us, they would jump right in it. There was
no getting around them. Like I said, I think we
outnumbered them. We had tons of support. We even had

(18:17):
Democrats over there who were holding up signs saying Democrats
for title line.

Speaker 9 (18:21):
It was quite a scene.

Speaker 10 (18:23):
I'm glad Riley arrived just before the game because it
would have been ugly for her, you.

Speaker 9 (18:29):
Know, the kind of target she has become. But she arrived.

Speaker 10 (18:34):
We kind of whisked her into Target center and let
her go on to her seats.

Speaker 9 (18:38):
But it was something.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Michelle, thanks for being here with us. As you know,
Clay is the one who follows the sports world very closely.
I like video games and so I recalled the first
time ever came across you, your voice was one of
the Madden games.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
So you've been in the sports world and.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Know the shall I say, the commentary and reporting sports
apparatus around all this. Clay has been telling me for
some time on this issue and a whole range of
issues more left wing than the political media, which I
thought was impossible. It seems to be the case from
what I could observe. Tell me this, of the people
who are commenting on that, they're all these big sports

(19:18):
radio hosts and sports podcasters and other than my buddy
Clay over here. Do they actually believe this stuff they
say about the trans athletes in you know, women's.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Sports or are they just more terrified?

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Is it more of what I see with Caitlin Clark,
which is she just doesn't want to get caught in
the crossfire situation?

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Like do these.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Athletes that I see former athletes They're all huddled around
tables on ESPN two all day long talking about the
next big contract for some guy whose name I don't know.
Do they actually think that women and men should be
playing in the same professional leagues?

Speaker 9 (19:53):
I don't believe that they do. I really don't believe
that they do. Now.

Speaker 10 (19:57):
I can't speak for all of them, but I can
say this to you, and Clay knows this that in
my outreach, whether it was during my podcast which is
on hiatus while I run right now, or during my candidacy,
I have asked some pro athletes to jump on board
and come and campaign with me on this issue. In particular,
one of those athletes, and I'm not going to out them,

(20:20):
has very successful athletic daughters and they are very successful, and.

Speaker 9 (20:26):
He didn't want to speak out on this issue.

Speaker 10 (20:29):
Because he was worried about the brands he is associated with.

Speaker 9 (20:33):
That's where this pressure is coming from.

Speaker 10 (20:36):
I think it's these endorsements or the brands that the
people have, and they're just afraid.

Speaker 9 (20:41):
Fortunately, there have been some courageous people.

Speaker 10 (20:44):
I saw that Brian Urlocker came out this morning on
x OR on one of the platforms and said his
piece about this. Some of them are having the courage
to speak. But I think some people are thinking, oh, this.

Speaker 9 (20:56):
Will blow over. I don't need to speak out. This
is such a ridiculous issue.

Speaker 10 (21:00):
This is going to blow over soon, and so it
doesn't matter whether or not I speak. That isn't the case,
it seems. So this is what makes Sophie Cunningham unique
and important in this whole movement.

Speaker 9 (21:14):
She is an.

Speaker 10 (21:15):
Active professional athlete on a big stage. Her platform is
magnified because she's teammates with Caitlin Clark and she's said
it and she said it with love, and that's what
we were trying to do yesterday. To one very interesting
incident yesterday during this protest on our side, we had
a woman who is a former high school athlete. She

(21:38):
happens to be black, and the protesters. The counter protesters
on the other side told her, you're not supposed to
be with them, You're supposed to be with us because.

Speaker 9 (21:49):
Of the color of her skin.

Speaker 10 (21:51):
That bothered her, and it should and it should bother
all of us that somehow they want to co opt
race into this too, or bring it in. It's just
completely conflating the issues. So they apparently they believe that
if you're a person of color, which by the way,
my background I'm brown, I have a very brown daughter,

(22:14):
we just don't look at it that way. Is this
is in a vacuum, an issue about fairness, about biology,
about science, and about protecting women period.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
The end, I got a couple of thoughts on this.
And you have covered sports for a very very long
time prior to citing to run for Synagy.

Speaker 10 (22:35):
I covered the WNBA with Reggie Miller for many seasons
when it first came up.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Okay, So that's where I want to go if we
had had this conversation, because I think there's a lot
of people out there that just can't believe that we
got here right that in twenty twenty six, the WNBA
many of the coaches would be coming out and saying yes,
we're fine with men who identify as women. I mean,
we had movie mocking this idea called Juwana Man back

(23:03):
in the day in two thousand and five, Michelle, if
I had predicted twenty years from now roughly that there
would be on the left a strong argument that it
is inclusive to include men, would you have believed it?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Part one? Part two? Women? You look at the Supreme Court, three.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Of them women said yes, men should be able to
play women's sports. If you listen to a lot of
people in the media ecosystem, very often it is women
making this argument. Men overwhelmingly, I think, believe that this
is absurd. Certainly we don't see because biology is real
women who are identifying as men suddenly being able to

(23:46):
play any male pro sports. So this is not a
conversation in any way in male sports in any respect.
Would you've ever believe we would be here? Do women
have to win this debate? And why are so many
women so willing to give up femininity handed off? After
all the battles women have had to fight to be
treated equal to men who want to take over women's spaces.

(24:09):
Yet again, that's the biggest irony to me.

Speaker 9 (24:13):
It truly is an irony.

Speaker 10 (24:14):
And when you see a coach like Cheryl Reeve, when
you see these coaches coming out and very publicly saying
trans kids belong, that's a really nebulous statement. By the way,
sports has always been exclusive. And here's what I mean
by that, girls have their own division. I was a

(24:36):
very young kid, youngest of four kids, three sisters, one brother.

Speaker 9 (24:40):
Brother was a great athlete, title nine past.

Speaker 10 (24:43):
I remember my for whatever it's worth, my Hispanic father
coming to me and saying this past, this is so
great for you and your sisters. You're gonna have opportunities
your mom never had, your auntie's never had.

Speaker 9 (24:55):
This is great. He was my basketball coach growing up.
My dad was. This is bizarre.

Speaker 10 (25:03):
I think it is this notion of tolerance, this virtue
signaling of tolerance, of acceptance of inclusivity.

Speaker 9 (25:12):
Well, I'm sorry.

Speaker 10 (25:13):
Players both male and female get cut from their teams
every single day because you don't have an unlimited number
of roster spots.

Speaker 9 (25:23):
You just don't.

Speaker 10 (25:24):
So players get cut. Salaries get determined by how good
you are. Caitlin Clark has a lot of endorsements. State
Farm comes to mind because she is a massive star.
So yeah, you don't tell me it's not exclusive, because
it is. It is based on merit, and we wouldn't

(25:44):
have it any other way.

Speaker 9 (25:46):
We loved cheering for our teams in the World Cup.
We loved cheering for the US team because we wanted
them to win. We didn't want everyone to tie.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
We wanted them to win.

Speaker 10 (25:57):
That by its very nature is based on maryatocracy and exclusivity.

Speaker 9 (26:02):
Not everyone got to play on the men's.

Speaker 10 (26:04):
US soccer team, the national team, because they had to
cut players who couldn't make the grade.

Speaker 9 (26:09):
You see. You know, so this is what's extraordinary to me.

Speaker 10 (26:12):
It's sport is by its very nature based on.

Speaker 9 (26:18):
Lt of autocracy and exclusivity.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, you'll notice when they want you to lie about
one thing, which you find, Michelle, is they actually want
you to lie about a lot of things, which is
not yea to this situation. But that's how the Left operates.
And we're speaking of Michelle de Foy. Michelle, before we
get to a break here, you're running for Senate. How's
that going. How's the Senate showdown looking?

Speaker 9 (26:38):
It's very interesting, it's looking good. I have blinders on.

Speaker 10 (26:42):
I take the Kobe Bryant mentality that I'm always in
last place, but our primary polling looks very very good.
Once we get past the primary, which is next Tuesday,
August eleventh, we find out which candidate on the Democrat
side we're going to be running against, and that's when
it gets very very real. But this is a big
issue here in Minnesota. We had a high school softball

(27:04):
team win the state championship, the state tournament a year ago,
maybe it's been two now, who had a.

Speaker 9 (27:11):
Male, a biological male as their picture. They won.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
This steam like a helpful thing. Yeah, yeah, I think
having a dude is I bet I'm that crazy.

Speaker 10 (27:22):
It's it's incredible. And we also Amy Klobishar, the senator
who is now running for governor here, has said she
will continue to allow boys to play in girls' sports.

Speaker 9 (27:32):
So there you have it.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
But Buck and I were just talking about this last
question for you. Some people might say, well, there's a
lot of other issues, and there obviously are, but I'm
curious when you're going around in campaigning. The thing that
I would say about this is it cuts through the
noise because, as Buck said, once you're requiring me to
tell a lie about your political perspectives. I can't trust

(27:57):
you on taxes. I can't trust you on foreign policy
because you've already told me that you'll lie to me
about basic biology. Do you find that to cut through
the noise and for people to be responsive in that way?

Speaker 10 (28:12):
Yes, And of course here in Minnesota, we are the
epicenter of fraud in this country, and so that was
a lie too. We got lied to by a number
of people who are running for office, including Peggy flannagain,
the lieutenant governor, who is running for the United States Senate,
and she's running against a sit in Congresswoman Angie Craig,
who has been endorsed by Tim Walls and his wife,

(28:35):
so she.

Speaker 9 (28:36):
Won't talk about fraud.

Speaker 10 (28:37):
Fraud is a massive issue, and the reason people are
so angry is because, Yeah, they were lied to. They
were stolen from the people who should be receiving benefits
from these programs were lied to. They didn't get their
benefits because they were stolen from them.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
So this is.

Speaker 10 (28:54):
Along those same lines, and I think this issue does
cut through. I think Minnesotons on both sides of the aisle.
This is an eighty twenty.

Speaker 9 (29:04):
At least issue here in Minnesota.

Speaker 10 (29:06):
Men should not be playing in women's sports, women earn
their place, and I honestly can't believe that I was
on a street corner in downtown Minneapolis shouting let women
speak it. Honestly, you guys, it felt like, you know,
I was back in Mary Poppins when they were trying
to get the vote.

Speaker 9 (29:22):
Back in the day.

Speaker 10 (29:23):
Remember the mom and Mary Poppins was try as he
was out there fighting for women.

Speaker 9 (29:27):
I don't know if people remember that film, but she was.

Speaker 10 (29:30):
And that's what I felt like, like, where are we
that women are having to say.

Speaker 9 (29:35):
This to other women?

Speaker 10 (29:37):
By the way, not just to men, but to other women.
It's astonishing. It's I keep thinking we're going to get
over this and kind of flip the switch on this,
and it has yet to happen.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Shelle Tafoya, thank you so much, Michelle Tafoya dot com.
Everybody go check out what she's doing with that Senate
race and appreciate you being here.

Speaker 9 (29:58):
I appreciate it, guys, have a great day. Thanks for
having me.

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(32:00):
of them are spicy, so you will want to be
with us for that for sure. Speaking of spicy, Mam
Donnie's grocery stores, it's kind of a rough turn there,
but I figured go for it. Mam Donnie's Marxist mini marts.
He has decided. Remember this is a signature issue for him,

(32:23):
Cammi Mamdani in America's largest city. He has decided that now, Clay,
we had vas passports in New York City, which I
remember very well. Now you might need a flax passport
in New York City. If you will, you have to
provide identification to be able to buy groceries in the

(32:47):
Mamdanni mart play cut eight.

Speaker 7 (32:50):
Our RFP makes very clear that this is a program
for New Yorkers to be able to put food on
the table, not a program for people to be able
to make a quick buck through reselling. I'm going to
pass it over to our DC had Gpack to add
some additional details.

Speaker 11 (33:03):
So if you look at OURP for the operator, we
are looking to make sure that we target New Yorkers,
whether it be a sort of a library card asks it.
And also we manage who's buying and that is focused
on everyday New Yorkers, So we are mindful of that,
and so we're going to make sure that we have
all the place, all the things in place to make
sure that that does not happen.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Clay, I would just point out for anyone who thinks
that this is going to show, remember show that there's
some secret sauce going on here. There's some magic trick
that's being pulled.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Mom.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Donnie is taking money from taxpayers so that he can
give a thirty percent discount on food to the people
who show up at one of these grocery stores that
has not even been built yet. They think it's going
to take a couple of years and thirty million dollars
I think, or something like this just to build them.
This is his big plan. This is his big proposal.

(33:58):
I want I want to get into it before we
get onto the Piata tear a tax and the revelation
that a Democrat pundit hat about his situation. But Clay,
you got to show ID to buy bread? Is now
where we are, So isn't this interesting? You shouldn't have
to show ID to vote, according to Democrats, but you
should have to show ID if you want that thirty

(34:19):
percent discount on milk.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Well, and yes, which is an unbelievable, obviously blatant hypocrisy.
So in order to get the benefits of living in
New York City, you have to be from New York City,
and you have to provide evidence that you're from New
York City. But in order to vote, all you have
to do is just show up, and so the voter

(34:42):
ID rules would seem to be racist based on all
the arguments that are out there that have been made before.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
But also Buck.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
The other part of this is they're acknowledging that the
market based incentive here is actually quite clear. It's that
if if they are, due to taxpayer subsidies, selling groceries
thirty percent cheaper than they would otherwise be elsewhere, you're
actually incentivized to go in and buy up everything that

(35:13):
you can and then take it out of the grocery
store and sell it for what the market rate would
be making money on the groceries yourself. So they're going
to have to simultaneously try to restrict who can get
in by providing your ID in order to enter, but
then also buck restricting how much of any product you

(35:35):
can buy, which seems difficult based on what the prices
are to ensure that you are buying only for your
own personal consumption and not for others. Well, how will
they do that? Why could you not go? Are they
going to limit how often you can enter the store too?
Are they going to take down your name and your contact?

(35:56):
Because could you not go in the morning and then
at lunch and then in the evenings and buy up
as much of the products in the store as possible
when they're at below market rates in order to be
able to profit off them elsewhere. The whole thing is,
you can't beat markets. This is the challenge. And they
don't see what recognize this.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
But let's see see what the what the the idiot
Mamdanni masses will take from this experiment. First of all,
it hasn't even had It's all theoretical now right. They
have to build these places, they have to staff them,
they have to get the groceries into them. And remember
it's just a taxpayer subsidy for this stuff. So somebody
who's getting milk thirty percent cheaper at a Mamdani mart.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
There.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
It's not that they found some better way to make milk,
you know, to milk the cow, to transport it, to
do all these things. No, you're just getting something. You're
just getting a freebie from taxpayers. That's all that's happening here.
But the Mamdani morons are going to say, see their
price gouging and grocery stores. You know, you see what

(37:01):
I mean, Clay, They're going to forget that this is
just a pure taxpayer funded subsidy, and they're going to
act like, oh, why don't all grocery stores sell it
thirty percent cheaper? And you'll notice that already for these stores,
I think the budget's seventy million dollars. Out of the
city budget, it's seven zero seventy million dollars for these
that's just going to be the slush fund for some

(37:24):
people to get cheaper groceries. So Mamdani can say, see,
cheaper groceries are possible, and he hopes that no one
looks behind the curtain to see it's possible for one
tenth of one percent of the shoppers in New York City.
Oh and by the way, your everyone else is paying
for that.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
And also if the budget is seventy million, I hadn't
seen what the budget is going to be. They're going
to run out of money here very quickly. I mean,
think about what it costs some of you out there
work in groceries. Seventy million dollars in groceries sounds like
a lot to someone that has never actually purchased the constant,

(38:03):
rolling amount of groceries that you need in order to
keep a place in stock right.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
I mean, it is.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
An inordinate amount of money that's required in order to
make this happen. And the cities have tried this before, Buck,
they all fail because you can't subsidize lower costs forever.
It just doesn't add up and it's expensive. And you
know this better anybody. How much money does it take
to get stuff into New York City compared to other places?

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Well, yes, one thing that no one even thinks about
in New York is that the incredibly efficient ticket.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Writing, which they're very good at.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
And if any of you visitors, let me tell you,
do not think, oh, I'll just leave my car here
for fifteen, they will nail you. The one thing New
York is really good at is taking money from people.
New York City is incredible, whether it's finding you in
some other state and trying to come after you for
taxes or writing a ticket on the windshield your car,
that they're really really good at. But that's another tax

(39:03):
on deliveries essentially, because all these delivery trucks send up
double parking and they all get they all get tickets,
they all get these fines, and it turns into million
by the way ups and like FedEx, they end up
paying millions of dollars a year to the City of
New York, but that just gets passed on to the customer.
Let me just point out, but the the the the crazy,
the crazy thing here is well, there's a lot of

(39:25):
crazy things here that people aren't going to follow along
the story long enough, I think lay to realize that
this whole thing is a shell game, essentially, that he's
not actually delivering better products at a lower price. He's
just having everybody else. This is a little bit like
a rent control situation. If you have rent control, good

(39:45):
for you. Everybody else is paying for your rent control. Okay,
if you have medicaid, good for you, kind of, but
everybody else who's paying taxes, who's paying taxes, is paying
for your medicaid. It's not there's no free right, this
is the most basic stuff. There's no free Imagine what
it's going to be like when you go into mom
Donni Mart.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
And you have a problem.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Does anybody think you want to talk about the customer
service experience being somewhat lacking? I mean, they're gonna make
the American Airlines help desk look like a Swiss watch,
a rather American Airlines help desk will look like a
switchwasp watch by comparison in terms of efficiency. No one's
gonna care who is going to be working at the
mom Donni Mart. Do you think that they care whether

(40:27):
you show up or don't? What are you gonna do? Say,
I'm gonna go to some other grocery store. Do they
have thirty percent cheaper groceries because of taxpayer funds?

Speaker 4 (40:35):
No?

Speaker 1 (40:35):
So the whole thing is just it's all going to collapse,
but it will take enough time for it to collapse
that he will take the pr win of c I'm
delivering groceries to New Yorkers at thirty percent cheaper. This
is all it's going to turn into. But it might
work for a time. I mean that concept of I'm
making it cheaper for New Yorkers to buy groceries, even

(40:58):
though what it really proved is you can't do that.
And the whole thing is a scam. And this is
gonna be the breadline bodegas that we've all expected all along.
So you want to do Scott Galloway here? You want
to wait for it?

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, let's just Scott.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Well, let's play Scott Galloway because I do think this
is also interesting where a lot of left wingers convince themselves, Oh,
he may say crazy things, but he's not actually gonna
do them. You know, he's just trying to win an election.
He's not gonna do the five million dollar tax. He's
not gonna publish everybody's home. It's not gonna impact me.

(41:34):
This is Scott Galloway. Buck I would say, Scott Galloway,
what do you think?

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I mean?

Speaker 3 (41:39):
He makes millions of dollars a year. I think off
his podcast he does with Cara Swisher.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Certainly millions at least.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Maybe he's probably in the uh in the eight figure
territory now, yeah, so he may be making ten million
dollars a year, living very very well. He can afford
to sit around and say, oh, I don't know what
you're complaining about. Well, until they decided that they were
going to tax him and they published his address.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Listen, I've been doxed.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
He've been doxed. What tell me?

Speaker 12 (42:10):
Uh So, I don't know if you've heard, but Mayor
Mom Donnie has decided to release a list of the
nine hundred and fifty thousand residences with addresses and names
that might be eligible for his pieditary attack. I came
out in favor of this tax. This is a definition.
He's taken a legitimate source of tax revenue and he's

(42:30):
turning it into a wanted poster. And the question I
would have is other than trying to identify and imply
these people have done something wrong and then eighteen months
after a healthcare CEO was executed in the street and
then publish the list, what is the upside here? Why
is he doing this?

Speaker 4 (42:51):
This?

Speaker 12 (42:51):
To me?

Speaker 2 (42:53):
I always try to be honest about this.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Scott Gallery seems like a very a very smart guy,
seems like a high IQ guy. He actually has some
very good takes on some things as well. He agrees
about the biological men and women's or just men and
women's sports thing. He's very good on the issue of
Israel and defending itself against Hamas, for example. So I
agree with Scott. He's good about men in the position
that men are put in this country. He actually has

(43:16):
some very good takes. He has some very terrible takes.
Does he really is he surprised Clay that this is
what Mamdanie does.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
How can you be surprised that Kami Mamdani is going Kami.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Look, all he did was reiterate when Ken Griffin he
went outside of Ken Griffin's place, and he basically announced
this policy by taunting Ken Griffin. I agree with everything
Scott Galloway said in that take. In fact, it's things
that we have said on this program. The difference between
us is we told you this was going to happen,

(43:50):
and so it did not surprise us when he did it. Look,
United Healthcare CEO got executed in cold blood on the
streets of Manhattan, just down from.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Where our radio studio is.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
As soon as Mamdani went outside of Ken Griffin's home
in New York City, we came on this program and
we said, all he's doing is encouraging further executions. And
when he published this list, we came on and we said,
this is basically a hit list for left wingers to
know where people of wealth that they have decided are

(44:21):
evil are living. And so, look, this is one of
the big differences between I think what has gone on
in the Democrat Party and what's going on right now.
In the past, and we've talked about this, there used
to be capitalists, There used to be a lot of
pro growth Democrats, You may not have agreed with him
on taxes and things like that, but they understood basic

(44:42):
market rates and capitalism. Now you have a world where
so few people have lived through the collapse of communism
that we've cycled back around to, well, maybe communism would work.
Maybe it would. And there's lots of kids out there
that frankly should have to go stay in Cuba for
six months, or should have to go to North Korea

(45:04):
for six months, or should have to go to many
of the countries out there that have embraced the most
left wing systems imaginable and live as the average person
does there to see what they take for granted.

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Speaker 1 (46:19):
We got a in studio guest Clay here in Miami, Florida.
Aaron Wexler joins us now. She is a comedian, She
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(46:40):
meaning that we're going to continue the show on YouTube
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Speaker 2 (46:46):
Aaron, welcome, great to have you here. Thank you for
having me. Clay.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
I wanted to start with RFK Junior because this was
just such a Catharsis for so many of us, certainly
Aaron two, because I know she lived through the craziness
of New York City during the lockdowns. We haven't played
this year on the show. Everybody listened to this. Here
is RFK Junior with Dana Bash. She's getting bashed. It's rough.
Listen to this.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Or or not?

Speaker 1 (47:18):
I guess what happened, Clay. Oh, we need the number. Sorry, here,
we'll pull up the number of the of the clip.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Clay.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
You just talk about for a second. Here we go,
twelve twelve, There we go.

Speaker 13 (47:29):
You are the HHS secretary and you are talking about
things that lead to vaccine hesitancy in this country, and
it is something that causes problems for people. I mean
when there is not anything.

Speaker 5 (47:44):
Let me ask you something.

Speaker 14 (47:46):
Do you see your job as ending vaccine hesdency or
do you see your job as telling the truth?

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Is the marriage?

Speaker 13 (47:53):
I see my job as telling the truth, and the
truth is that there is.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
Study after study. At the study.

Speaker 9 (48:00):
It's one of the most.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
Study things out there in science.

Speaker 14 (48:04):
Like a prot Are you like a parrot? So I
actually read the science, but you don't want to. You
don't want to hear and debate this.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
So I'm not debating this view. Of course, you won't
know because I'm not.

Speaker 14 (48:17):
You know, how to do is repeat things that people
told you and say trust the experts.

Speaker 5 (48:22):
That's what you do.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
During COVID.

Speaker 14 (48:24):
Now we know that anthy Fauci, who was the expert,
was lying about everything about massive about the social distancing,
about natural immunity, about the transmission from the vaccine.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
About the source of COVID.

Speaker 14 (48:38):
He was lying, and you were punishing people for not
trusting the experts. And now you're rolling out the experts
again to talk about something that you have no personal
knowledge of.

Speaker 13 (48:49):
Okay, well, guess what. That is my job to talk
to people. Job, yes, yes, And my job is my
information as I can.

Speaker 12 (48:59):
You may want.

Speaker 13 (49:00):
We're doing what we were doing, what we were doing
in COVID, and and still with regard to these vaccines.
Is getting the best information, the best science that we
can and putting it out there.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
What do you make of it?

Speaker 15 (49:15):
Eron, what do I make of it?

Speaker 16 (49:17):
I mean, I love how much they try a memory
hole with everything that happened. A big reason why I
left New York is because I will never forget and
never forgive how people in that city acted to other people.
But one of my favorite things that's memory hold is
remember when they thought it would be better for them
to say no, no, no. It wasn't a lablique that we
actually funded that we were kind of aware of. Actually,

(49:38):
Chinese people are so disgusting they eat raw bat soup,
and that was less racist.

Speaker 9 (49:44):
We all the other.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
We all looked up penglin. I mean, I think I'm
pretty good. I think I'm pretty good in the animal kingdom,
Like I am pretty you know, I would do well
in trivia. I did not know what a pengulin was
until we were told that that was where the virus came.

Speaker 16 (49:59):
They were like, Chinese peasant went to a web market
and like Chinese people eat raw bats, which is true,
but like but that they pins it on that and
then they called us racist for everything around BLM and
we could and stop. Asian hate stopped because we couldn't
talk about who's beating up Asians. That happened from them
telling us that people were eating in wet markets in China. So,

(50:20):
I mean, I just don't think that America's really had
a true reckoning of what happened during covid and I'm
glad RFK is pushing back, but like, so what I
don't know, Like this to me is like I do
appreciate what RFK said, but it's also inconsequential.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
In the end, I am seeing your clips pop on
Instagram reels in a big way, and every now and
then I'll text you and I'll be like, oh my god,
like this is everywhere. How does the reaction on social
media compare, as a comedian to the reaction that you
get in person? And can you gauge in any way

(50:56):
who is responding? Who's watching these, you know, comedic clips
that you're putting out that are getting hundreds of thousands,
if not millions of us?

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Do you have a sense of who that's appealing to.

Speaker 16 (51:07):
Yes, it's well, first the online the videos are appealing
to over half the country, and I think I have
for more than half the country because there are reasonable liberals,
reasonable people that are center left, just not leftists, who
also acknowledge a lot of the truth of my jokes.
In person, it's all very friendly. So all the hate

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that I get, which I really I don't care about
and ignore it, and a lot of its bots, but
that's contained entirely to the online sphere and in person,
it's just so positive. You wouldn't believe the people who
come up to me. I mean, it's I get Hispanic
people in Miami. I had like an Asian taxi driver in.

Speaker 15 (51:45):
New York City.

Speaker 16 (51:46):
I had an ambiguously a black eye at Soho House
when I was in New York. You know, like you
have all kinds of people. And actually that guy at
Soho House said to me. I said, I was like,
are you right wing? And he said, what are you
talking about? And I was like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 5 (52:01):
What do you mean?

Speaker 15 (52:02):
Because I think my stuff is inherently right wing?

Speaker 16 (52:04):
Or like because I started and our friendship started because
I was doing political commentary on the right.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Well, what would you would you?

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Why don't you share the origin story? Actually we were
going to say, serve the YouTube. Clay, I don't even
know if you know this, Aaron, You're now you're now
you know a comedy and online phenomenon. And by the way,
she is a comment set up with a like I
love Nate Bargatsy, but he just does jokes. He's not
necessarily political and comedian. He's Yeah, I love Nate bargassy,
he's very funny, whatever, but you actually tick off the

(52:34):
left in a big way. But tell everybody how we
even got here, because I think your origin story both
the flight from New York to South Florida and then
of course you're being discovered.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
How it all happened.

Speaker 16 (52:44):
Okay, sure, Well the reason I'm here when I'm really
supposed to be taking August off and I made an
exception is because your wife, your wonderful wife, Carrie saw
my very first viral tiktom, which was within two and
a half three weeks of when I started posting online,
and Carrie saw it sent it to you, and you
guys noticed the background and said, I think this girl

(53:04):
lives right near us in Miami.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Yeah, like alay, like one hundred yards from us, by
the way, like across the street.

Speaker 15 (53:09):
Yeah, two seconds for a bird to fly between her.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
It looked like she had filmed it in our living
room because the backdrop was the same as her living rooms.

Speaker 16 (53:16):
We were like, hold on a second, yeah, and uh,
Buck and I we met for coffee and you told
me you're like, keep going, keep doing this. And Buck
was the first person in right wing media to reach
out and to see the very clear talent that I am.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
I don't know if they ever could see I'm doing
a little Trump dance over here, Clay. Very exciting. Yeah,
but you're doing great with the comedy circuit, which we
love to see because you know, we had the young
Clan and I we had the young Washington director on Friday,
and we're so encouraging. Although we have to be active
in the culture, we have to have people who, yes,
you're out there your clips now. So the clips, that's
just if audience likes it. I mean, Clan I were

(53:53):
talking about this, but the comedy clubs some gatekeeping going on.
If you're conservative, tell everybody yes.

Speaker 16 (53:59):
So people have no idea when they look at my clubs.
And that's part of the magic, right. A lot of
what we do in content creation, what you guys do
hosting a show, there's a lot of nitty gritty behind
the scenes that we don't want people to see because
we want them to People have tough lives that are
full of friction, and I just want to give them
what they come to me for. But people should know
that when you see me on that stage, I am

(54:22):
kicking down so many doors to be on that stage.
I am fighting for that stage time, and I'm dealing
with defamation after So I've all kinds of things going on.
One example is there is a club, a comedy club
that's very well known in New York, and I'm not
allowed back to one of their locations because of a
trans server who was offended just by my existence. When

(54:45):
I performed, I didn't even make any trans jokes, but
now I wish I had.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
They won't have to go back.

Speaker 15 (54:51):
I have to go back.

Speaker 16 (54:54):
And I actually went to the club to talk to
the booking manager who's not allowing me back, and I
asked them because I had no idea why I wasn't
allowed back, and I am a very confrontational person, so
I went to ask him what was going on and
he said, you offended a trans server and I said, well,
I didn't even realize there were any trans servers. Is
that not gender affirming care?

Speaker 4 (55:13):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Is that?

Speaker 16 (55:15):
And I asked what kind of trans are we talking about?
And he said it's a borny woman now a male,
and he is very upset and I was like, well
she is very upset. He's like, well, if this person
wants to convince us that they're a man. Maybe they
should stop acting like a little girl.

Speaker 15 (55:30):
Oh I'm still.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
So this is a perfect segue, Clay.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
I got to hand this to you because Clay is
now shocking the whole internet and going viral because he
has a trans sports team.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Frank Clay, just you tell her what's going on. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
So, by the way, we may need to get her
audio one hundred percent queued up according to the chat,
but I will tease this as we go to uh
as we go to the break here, I think, Aaron,
you're aware of this. But the WNBA has now said
publicly that men are allowed to play in the WNBA,
which feels like such a comedic wheelhouse for you, But

(56:08):
I'm actually curious. I want to get your take on
why women are so quick to give up what is
unique about being a woman men in general, I think
most of us out there kind of feel sad for
a woman who wants to identify as a man, because
that person is never going to be as big, as strong,
as fast as a normal man would be. I mean,

(56:30):
that's just the reality, and yet women are so quick
to say, oh, you're just like us. I want to
figure out why that is. Get your take on it.
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Speaker 2 (57:50):
Welcome back in Clay and Buck. By the way, this
is going.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
To be really cool. We are going to roll with
Aaron on into our YouTube channel, so if you want
a YouTube exclusive, we're gonna start doing some of this
cool stuff. We had record audience today and we're going
to continue to roll with with Aaron going forward.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
You'll be able to see it on the YouTube. It's YouTube.
Just to give everybody the url in case they don't
have a YouTube. Dot com Slash Clay and Buck slash live.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Click on the live tab.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Okay, so I was asking you this men, I don't
think there's the same level of issue with trans related
issues because most men just kind of feel sorry for
a woman who is deciding that she wants to identify
as a man. Women seem compelled to just give away
all that being a woman represents and say, oh, you're

(58:43):
just like us.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Why what are they doing? What has happened here.

Speaker 15 (58:49):
There are a few things.

Speaker 16 (58:50):
First, thank you for asking me in a short segment
on the radio to explain why women are the way
we are. Thank you for that wonderful setup play. I
do think some of it is, you know, a kadzad
suicidal empathy. Women definitely have more empathy than men, which
is good and bad. Right, It's good for dealing with
children while men are supposed to hunt and fight wars,
and it's bad when it comes to allowing illegals into

(59:10):
your country and trannies into your sports. But I mean
we see this in comedy too, right, Like women like
they hate themselves a lot of the time, Like a
lot of these female comics will go up and talk
about how terrible men are and how much batter women are. Meanwhile,
they're dressed like men, and they're trying to talk like
men and sound like them. Like I go on stage,

(59:31):
I'm like in a skirt, I'm an address, like, I'm
not trying to dress like some meandrogynis fratbro.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
So.

Speaker 15 (59:36):
I mean, we see this everywhere, but if they're.

Speaker 16 (59:38):
Gonna allow men into the WNBA, then it might actually
be worth watching. So I'm looking forward to that and
also I actually think there were studies at one point,
but I can't be certain. It may have been made up,
but I think there's a study that says that when
men are interspersed with women in workplaces, they behave better
because they want to look they want to act nice
around the men. So I actually think we might get

(59:58):
a massive improvement in behavior from zedies.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
I will tell you something, Clay, and Clay is gonna
make fun of me. In fact, everyone listening is gonna
make fun of me. But I want to contribute to
this conversation, and it reminds me of something.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
I like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
This game which is catching on in popularity called paddle now.
I have people call it both, just to be clear.
In this country it's more pad padell, But in Mexico
I do know. It was invented by Jewish, very prominent
in Spain too. But for those who don't know this
is there's New York City. There are thousands and thousands
of these courts now opening across the country. I bring

(01:00:30):
it up because people can get a little too intense
on the paddle court. But it's always doubles, So if
you have a mixed double situation, the guys are always
better behaved, doesn't matter even if they don't know the
women or whatever, because there's like a you know, round
robin tournaments and things, but when there's four dudes, it
turns into fistfights. The guys actually behave better when there

(01:00:52):
are girls on the court.

Speaker 16 (01:00:53):
I will say, I actually just think what we're saying
is the world works in a balance. There are men
and women, and right now, what the left has effectively
done is make everyone androgynous, and so we're just like
all weighted in the middle as bisexual.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Harry Potters, speaking of I'm gonna give a positive I
said I was gonna do this Buck. We can talk
about it tomorrow. I'm curious if you have seen this
movie yet. Aaron spider Man said, an all time record
for movies. It's right up there with The Avengers End Game.
It's phenomenal. I'm just gonna be honest. A lot of
times we come on here and we say negative things.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
So the dog, the dog is currently attacking Aaron, just
so you know that's what's going on over here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Keep going, Clay, the movie is really really good. Aaron.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
You're in comedy, and again I would encourage you to
go see Spider Man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
It's good? Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Are we going to emerge from this era? I would
say we haven't really had a great comedic film in
almost fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
You go back and you watch the early two thousands.
I've got boys, I put them on and they're like,
oh my god. You can say that, like they just
lose their mind watching the early two thousands, to say
nothing of the eighties and the nineties. How does comedy
get back to just being funny? Does it require defeating
identity politics? What do you see in the comedic universe?
Are you optimistic or pessimistic for where we're headed?

Speaker 16 (01:02:15):
I am both optimistic and pessimistic about it, because what
I will say is, actually, I really enjoy performing in
blue cities and in blue states first because the Republicans
they are so deeply repressed, and so I'm like a
pressure release valve for them when they come to my shows.
But I perform in New York in showcases where you'll
have a bunch of comics lined up. People aren't there
specifically for me. They're just there for the club and

(01:02:37):
to watch comedy. And I go in there knowing that
it's a liberal audience. And I get them laughing, and
it's because like they actually want to laugh at a
lot of the same things, and they just need to
be given the opportunity and without that preemptive you know,
oh this is a right wing comedian. They just see
that I'm a comedian and the things that I'm saying
are different than what they typically hear. And so there's

(01:02:59):
certainly an app for it with more than half the country.
But with that said, what we were talking about earlier
in the program, it may have been hard to hear
me because my audio was a little trick messed up,
but you know, a lot of the servers and the
managers and it's actually just the infrastructure behind comedy is
what's keeping people like me from me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
So I just want to tell everybody speaking of audio
and technology, Clay, we are going to continue this conversation
with Aaron on a YouTube stream, So those of you who
are listening on a radio station, if you would like,
go check us out YouTube dot com, slash play and fuck,
we're gonna talk to Aaron about movies.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Do you even have an Odyssey take for us?

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Probably we'll talk to her about the Odyssey Play will
give his his I was gonna say X men.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
His spider Man review.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Aaron will tell us about the meanest heckle she's ever received,
the best heckl response she's ever given as a comedian.
There will be live questions from those of you who
are joining us. You can ask Aaron keep it clean, guys.
You can ask Aaron questions in the live stream and
this will be a fun thing. We're gonna do for
like about a half hour after the show today. So
play a great radio program turning into now a little

(01:04:05):
post show on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Anything else from you, no.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Keep hanging in with us. This is a fun experiment.
It may or may not work, but we're cautiously optimistic.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Keep rolling