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August 4, 2026 64 mins

Clay Travis and Buck Sexton talk about the Democratic Senate contest featuring Abdul El-Sayed and examining how the outcome could provide insight into the national appeal of progressive and socialist candidates beyond deeply blue cities such as New York and Los Angeles. They argue that Michigan and Wisconsin serve as political testing grounds for whether increasingly far-left Democratic candidates can succeed in competitive swing states. They also talk about how the Democratic Party is moving further toward socialist and identity-based politics.

Clay and Buck analyzed several emerging Democratic candidates, including Michigan Senate hopeful Abdul El-Sayed and Wisconsin gubernatorial hopeful Francesca Hong, framing both as representative of the party’s progressive wing. They debated whether these candidates would strengthen Republican chances in key battleground states or whether they reflect a broader ideological shift within the Democratic electorate. The conversation repeatedly returned to the question of whether ideas that resonate in major urban centers can translate into statewide success in politically divided states.

Clay and Buck discussed the ongoing controversy surrounding the WNBA, Sophie Cunningham, and transgender participation policies in women’s sports. Clay discussed growing attention surrounding his satirical proposal to launch the fictional “Nashville Balls” WNBA franchise, a team composed entirely of biological males identifying as women. The concept was referenced by multiple commentators and media personalities, including Megyn Kelly and others, who argued that the hypothetical scenario highlights concerns about fairness and competitive balance in women’s athletics. Clay and Buck described the proposal as a form of political and cultural satire designed to underscore what they view as contradictions in current sports policies.

An extended interview featuring Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, who discussed his Senate campaign, the state of the race, and his Democratic opponent, Texas State Representative James Talarico. Paxton addressed polling that suggests a competitive contest, argued that many Texans are still unfamiliar with Talarico’s policy positions, and contended that Democratic fundraising networks and out-of-state donors are heavily investing in the race in hopes of flipping a traditionally Republican Senate seat.

Clay and Buck described what they called “race communism” as a driving force behind many modern progressive policy proposals. Throughout the hour, Clay and Buck discussed concepts such as systemic racism, criminal justice disparities, racial identity, and social justice activism, arguing that contemporary progressives increasingly analyze virtually every policy issue through race-based frameworks. Francesca Hong’s references to “proximity to whiteness” and racial identity politics received particular attention, with the hosts debating how those ideas resonate with voters in political battleground states such as Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in that we are rolling with the Tuesday edition
of The Clay and Buck Show.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
A lot of big stories to follow.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
We have got Michigan primary day, Hailey Stevens going up
against Abdul el Sayed on the Democrat side. They will
face on the Republican side Mike Rogers and Abdul Elsayed
is right now Buck a ninety eight percent according to

(00:33):
the prediction markets to win, which means the far left
wing candidate is likely to be picked today by Michiganders
and that will then lead to I believe, a very
winnable race for Mike Rodgers. Also, Republicans selecting their GOP

(00:53):
nominee for Governor. John James is favored in that race
to be the republicanee that is an open seat after
Gretchen Whitmer is term limited out. So we will be
talking some about the fact that that is going on
and what the significance of the Michigan primary vote could

(01:14):
tell us about how popular the Democrats socialists are outside
of places like Los Angeles, New York certainly, and other
big blue locales. What is going to play in a
purple state. We've got a crazy Speaking of purple states,
We've got a Francesca Hong who is emerging as one
of the craziest potential major party nominees that we have

(01:38):
seen in a very long time, as she has favored
to be the Democrat nominee in the state of Michigan,
and a little bit of a panic is starting to
set in there. Buck, super positive right off the top
record high stock prices as I am talking to all
of you this morning. Never before have your four to

(01:58):
oh one ks have your stockholdings been more valuable. S
and P five hundred surging to as we speak, a
new all time record high. We also have the Dow
Jones at an all time record high, and Buck just
tooting our own horn a little bit here. Back in
April of twenty twenty five, which wasn't very long ago,

(02:21):
the economic geniuses of the expert class told all of
us that the economy was headed for a recession and
things were going to collapse. At that point in time,
the S and P five hundred had dropped to around
five thousand. On this program last year in April, we said, hey,

(02:41):
it's probably a good time to buy stocks. Don't listen
to the pannikins out there. Don't allow yourself to be
motivated by emotion here at a minimum, hold onto your stocks.
If you have extra money on the side, this would
be a good time to buy. Stock Prices up nearly
three thousand in the S and P five hundred since

(03:02):
that day, well over fifty percent returns just in the
past year. Now, what is the stock market going to
do on a day to day basis? Nobody knows. But
over time you're gonna make about ten percent a year
in SMP five hundred index funds. And if you are
a stockholder, if you have retirement accounts, if you have
a four oh one K, if you have opened a

(03:22):
Trump account for your young children out there as many
of you have grandchildren, and as well like Buck did
for his own one year old, it is a good
time to be invested in America. Things are very positive
out there when it comes to stock market prices.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
As we begin the.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Show today, there's a lot of positivity for you, Buck.
That is that setting off your your negativity alarm bells?
Is that too much positive news right out of the
gate here?

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, I'm hearing people say that the Texas sentence seat
is going to be competitive. Clay, I'm here in crazy talk.
By the way, we have Ken joining us. Yes, that's
what we call it teas in the business. We have
Ken Paxton joining us to dispel these rumors. Although he
does want as many of you to show up as
possible for that Senate race to vote for him. But he,

(04:12):
I'm sure is going to give us a different take
than what the the Democrat media has been saying about
that race. We've got the Michigan Senate race today. We
have the Wisconsin gubernatorial candidate who is a total whack
job okay, a really Looney Tunes level candidate, and she

(04:33):
is she could win. She well could be the next
governor of Wisconsin, and obviously that effects what is a
very important, a critical toss up purple state for the
next election cycle for president. Plus more people talking about
Clay's ten million dollar WNBA offer, so we have we
have a lot of things to get to. Ill also
know it. Thank you for joining us for the live

(04:53):
stream yesterday. Sorry the live stream didn't get so live,
but we do have on YouTube a special with our
friend Aaron Wexler. By the way, her name is spelled
a r y nne, and she wants, she says, her
only request Clay is for our audience to follow her
on Facebook. I said, really, Facebook, She said, yes, please
follow Aaron Wexler on Facebook. But it's a great interview.

(05:14):
We talked to her for a while after the show.
You should go check that out on YouTube. That's the
place to find it because we continued the show after
the show. Now, Clay, I now it is dealer's choice.
By the way, it's very true that the stock market
is super high. It is a moment where I think
it's worth reminding people. By the way, Bitcoin down fifty
percent from its high. Bitcoiners are having a rough one.

(05:39):
I have never been some people. Here's what I don't
want to make this divert our segment here into crypto talk.
I've never been a crypto person. I owned a little
bit for a short period of time. It went up,
and I sold it because I fundamentally I'm not a believer.
And I think the fact that you're even using terms
like belief, like people out there are saying they are

(05:59):
crypto believers. When it's about your money and it's about investing,
you should be able to explain why you're in it,
why it makes sense, and why you you know what
you just said Clay, bet on America. This is really straightforward.
America is the greatest wealth generation machinery ever on the planet, period,

(06:20):
full stop.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
It's not even close.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
So you're betting on the horse that has one more
races than any other horse ever.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Right.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
I think that's a pretty safe place to be. Doesn't
mean it's gonna necessarily pan out, but it's a smart bet.
A lot of the stuff that people have been sold
on with the domerism out there of say, oh my gosh,
we're gonna have a total collapse and everything else of
our of our economy and of the dollar, and they
rush into this crypto stuff. I'm not a believer, So

(06:48):
I just Clay, I just want to read it. What
reiterate what you're saying, which is bet on America. Because
if your bet on America fails, you're not even gonna
care that you bet on America. You're gonna have other problems.
You're gonna the world is gonna be in a scary,
scary place. Trust me. You know, if the Treasury bond
becomes worthless, it's not gonna you're gonna you're gonna care
about how much drinkable water and how much ammunition you

(07:08):
have truly. So with that in mind, Clay, I would say, also,
AI is gonna increasingly become very positive and productive for
all of us, and that's.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
A really good thing.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
So I'm taking some of your positivity and then I
am turning it into the reality of some of these
lunatics out there. I'm gonna I'm gonna do this as
artfully as I can. I think we should play.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I saw this and I shared it, and I do
think that this is a representative sample jumping in because
I'm pulling up the same quotes that you are. This
is this is I think indicative of how crazy this
Francesca Hong candidate is for Democrats. She's going to be
their nominee for governor. And she went on with Caitlyn

(07:55):
Collins last night on CNN and Caitlyn she said, Francesca
Hong did that Thanksgiving should be canceled and it was
a racist holiday and we should not celebrate it anymore.
This is what the Democrat candidate for Wisconsin governor said.
Buck here she is cut eight. Caitlin Collins said, Hey,

(08:16):
you said this crazy thing in the past. Would you
now like to say maybe canceling Thanksgiving not the right
way to go. Listen to this Kamala Harris word salid
esque answer where.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
She basically says, yeah, I mean it. Cut eight.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Do you still believe that Thanksgiving should be canceled?

Speaker 5 (08:34):
I'm a chef and one of the first meals that
I made that was for the community when I was sixteen,
was a Thanksgiving meal. No. I always think my hospitality
background and owning a restaurant for seven eight years that
bringing folks around the table to share conversation and build
community is always a good thing. But Thanksgiving is also

(08:58):
a time that's incredibly painful many people in our communities.
And so I think there I wanted to make sure
that people understood that they are multiple views, but views
can evolve, and the position that I'm running for right now,
and I think my background as a chef will actually
help me become a better governor that's able to bring
more people to the table.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
This is one of the worst answers I've ever heard.
First of all, Buck and I will open this up
eight hundred and two A two two eight A two.
Have you ever heard anyone say that Thanksgiving is an
incredibly difficult time for them? And I don't mean when
you've had a lost loved one in your family and
you're sitting at the table and you're thinking, man, a
lot of times holidays can be difficult because of lost

(09:41):
family members, lost friends. That is not what I'm talking about,
that Thanksgiving itself is a traumatic experience because of American
I've legitimately never heard anyone actually say this. I'm just curious,
have you, like I feel like I know a lot
of left wing people, I've never actually heard anyone may
the argument that Thanksgiving should be canceled.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
I know, I never heard that. She's taking what's usually
the Columbus Day argument, yes, which is we need to
weep for the indigenous people, the pre Columbian people living
in the Stone Age, as they were the literal Stone Age,
I might add in terms of technology, so we are
supposed to weep for them. And that is one thing

(10:23):
I've never heard somebody say Thanksgiving is problematic. Although Clay,
in a twist of irony, it is people like Francesca
Hong who make Thanksgiving painful by saying incredibly stupid left
wing things at the table about Thanksgiving. So we have
now actually brought this full circle.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Do you think that she got Thanksgiving and Columbus Day
confused initially when she was saying cancel Thanksgiving, because I
do think that she might just not be aware that
Thanksgiving is typically not canceled. And I do love the
fact that she tried to pivot to I'm a chef
as if that's what I want to say. Is now,
if anyone asks me like, what do you think? Do

(11:04):
you think Thanksgiving is problematic the same way they do
with a biologist, and trans be like, well, I'm not
a chef, so I.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Can't have it. Yeah, that's Thanksgiving. You know.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
I'm not a professional clay. She is a race communist.
There's actually a very good essay I was up last
night reading and I want to give credit for it
that I read. I think it was in Tablet mag
but I have to track it down. Team help me
find it. A very good essay just delving into how
race communism, which started really just more as a kind

(11:33):
of a catch all pejorative for left wing idiocy online.
I use it though, knowing quite a bit about the
history of actual communism and this author she did the
same thing. That is what we are seeing. It is
race instead of class infused in every policy, in every action,
and every thought of government of society, and it can
never be fixed. It can there is no right. So

(11:57):
it's an excuse for constant agitation and constant self victimization,
the pretense of victimization. And Francesca Hong of Wisconsin is
a race communist, that is her ideology. So everything has
to be seen through this lens of race. And what's
fascinating is that the race communists are coming, you know,

(12:17):
coming about now in this country at a time when
there are so many different races and new arrivals here
as well. That how are they piling into the history
of you know, oppression in America or the Native Americans?
You know, does Francesca Hong I'm gonna go out a
limb here. Is her parentage Asian or is you know
she have Asian background. I'm gonna take a guess she

(12:38):
cared about like Mao's murder of sixty million people in
her country?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Does that?

Speaker 6 (12:41):
Ever?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
No, only the Iroquois.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
She weeps for the Iroquois, not her grandparents' generation who
were probably being murdered by Chinese communists and by Mao. So,
you know, I think we're seeing how this is completely
spiraling into nonsense and absurdity, but also a lot of
declayor a lot of believers she might become the governor right,
So well, it's two sided. This is where I think

(13:05):
this ties in with the primary that's going on in
Michigan today, because I think Democrats, in their anger and
in their far left wing leadership of the socialists, are
potentially leading their party off a cliff and they may
be nominating people that cannot win in purple state. Why

(13:28):
do you think after Mamdani became the most powerful prominent
Democrat in the whole country, after winning the mayorship of
the biggest city in America, being an abject race communist loon,
why do you think that like this the city New.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
York City is probably an eighty twenty Democrat locale Michigan
and Wisconsin is a fifty to fifty state. So I
think the moderate voters who ultimately decide these elections. Remember
Trump won Michigan, he won Wisconsin. Ron Johnson, our buddy,
is capable of getting elected in Wisconsin. And I think

(14:01):
that New York City is crazy. And this is actually
where I would argue my suggestion that by picking a
crazy left winger it might actually lead New York City
off the deep end, but be utterly destructive for the
Democrat Party overall. So I'm optimistic that what works in

(14:22):
New York City is not going to work in Wisconsin
and Michigan. If Mom Donnie liked candidates like Hong and
l Siyed win in Michigan and Wisconsin, then I will
start to hit the panic button here because it would
suggest that a candidate like that can win nationwide.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
But that's what I'm telling you. I think they're competitive, Clay,
I don't. I don't think they're I don't think they're
a joke, even in Michigan or Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
I think I don't know that I analogy, Jesus.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
I mean, it's going to come down to two or
three points either way in a fifty to fifty state.
But I don't think Hong will win and I don't
think l sim win. But shouldn't it be shouldn't it
be a little alarming to you that forty eight percent
of Wisconsin heights might vote for a race communist. So
you may be right, but you're talking about a goal
line stand like this is something to celebrate.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
This is not This is not.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Ideal, but if they had nominated a normal Democrat, I
think Wisconsin would win. The Democrats would win Wisconsin, and
I think they would win Michigan. I think they may
lose both over the choices that they're making, which I
do think are Mom Donnie influenced, but don't play as
well there as they do in New York City.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
I like that You're gonna have to keep this optimism
up because I am very concerned about the midterms, very concerned.
So you're gonna be our optimistic guy. I was not
concerned about twenty four for these nominees. I told you
guys almost exactly two years ago. Trump is gonna Trump
is going to absolutely kick ass in the twenty four election.
We are going to smoke these fools. They are toast.
Kamla has no chance. I am very worried about this midterm.

(15:54):
I'll just tell you right now. I am highly concerned.
I'm just expressing concern. I want the messaging to be good.
I want things to be good going into it. By
the way, the piece was the Racial Crossroads Compactmag not
Tablet Mag, compactmag dot Com by Helen Andrews.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Very much worth reading.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
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I think accurate adjectives, robust, Oh, blowing kissos Now.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
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blow kisses for the YouTube. People blow kisses.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Oh that awesome ball. Yeah, yeah, that's a sign that
you're a little boy.

Speaker 7 (17:51):
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Speaker 3 (17:51):
We have a copy of Balls right over here, and
he talks about ball he likes.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
He would probably be a big fan when he grits
a little bit older of the Nashville Balls franchise, which
is an incredible Yeah, there you go smiling on about it.
Got a great sense of humor.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Already.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
We have our friends in the w NBA world. As
the w NBA has decided to welcome men into women's sports,
James will probably enjoy our friend. Yes, Megan Kelly decided
to weigh in on this and my attempt to buy
a w NBA expansion franchise for my hometown in Nashville.

Speaker 8 (18:29):
Listen, Clay Travis today of out Kick and Now with
Fox was tweeting he wants to start a league, his
own team in the league. I wants to start his
own team within the league, and it's going to be
all trans people, the all dudes posing as women. They
will kick the assets of every team out there. I
beg him to do it.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Beg, beg. I'm in like I legitimately the number one team.

Speaker 8 (18:53):
I think he's saying the All Stars, but the number
one team in the w NBA. If they will play
any team of high school boys, like high school All
All Stars, he'll pay a winner ten million dollars that
I'm sorry, but that's what needs to happen. That kind
of display, that just shows how absurd this is.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
That is fun. This is everywhere.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Buck here is Studio six Bes, Damon Roberts, cut four
talking about this as well.

Speaker 9 (19:25):
Play it so show Reeve is there would a trans
women belong whatever shirt she's wearing, saying that it's basically
okay for men to play in women's sports. If Klay Travis,
who rightly comes out today and says okay, WNBA, I
want to open up a new team in Nashville.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
We call it the Nashville Balls, right, and it's going
to be one.

Speaker 9 (19:47):
Hundred percent trans team, first most inclusive team ever in
the country. That's there, we go my franchise. Where is it?
My team will be one hundred percent trends. The Travis
owned Nashville Balls will be the most inclusive women's men's
team in NBA history.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Stop discriminating against us.

Speaker 9 (20:04):
Where is my team?

Speaker 2 (20:05):
They want to belong?

Speaker 9 (20:06):
Right, So these coaches.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Are okay with this? Now there won't be okay with that.
Of course, they'll never win a game for the.

Speaker 9 (20:16):
Obvious reasons because if that was ever to come to fruition,
they'd lose every game six hundred to nothing.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Buck one more here, as we have taken over the
entire talking head space chicks on the right cut thirty three.
This is them also reacting play it.

Speaker 10 (20:33):
Clay Travis first of all, was like jumping all over this,
and he said WNBA coach says, men should be able
to play in WNBA. Finally, where's my franchise? My team
will be one hundred percent trans, the Travis owned Nashville Balls.
I'd love to be the most inclusive women's slash men's
team in WNBA history.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Stop discriminating. We should play on that team as Britney Griner.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
I mean clearly, she would be the first recruit.

Speaker 11 (21:04):
Clearly.

Speaker 10 (21:06):
Clay went a little further and said important announcement. I
am upping my offer ten million dollars for a head
tohead basketball game between the defending WNBA champion Las Vegas
Aces and a boys' high school state title team of
my choice. If the Aces beat my team, I will
give them ten million dollars.

Speaker 6 (21:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (21:25):
Remember when they did this with soccer and they played
against like Megan Rappino and that.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Is absolute disaster. They kicked it out of them.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
I will say this, Buck, absurdity oftentimes cuts through the noise.
Because we could sit here and say, well, the chromosomal abnormalities,
the average muscle mass, like you can run through all
the factual reasons. Sometimes the best way to respond to
absurdity is by layering another level of absurdity on it.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Buck. A ton of high school boys.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Basketball state championship teams have reached out wanting to play
in this game. The WNBA Las Vegas Aces have been
completely silent. That kind of tells you everything right. The
boys and their coaches are aware that they would dominate
these girls, and these grown women would lose to a
team of boys, and so illustrates perfectly the absurdity of

(22:23):
trying to allow men to compete in women's sports.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
I actually think, Clay, I think the first part of
your proposition for me is far more poignant mockery or
satire or whatever, because we've already had. We mentioned the
women's national soccer team playing against the U sixteen.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
I think it might have even a U fifteen youth.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Fifteen from only Dallas, and they crushed the women's World
Cup winning championship team. So we know that, I mean,
we know that a team of adolescent of skilled adolescent
athletes who are men or you know, young men soon
to be meant whatever, would beat the best women's teams

(23:05):
in the world in these events because of strength and
speed disparity. What I find so interesting about the Nashville Balls,
and of course beyond even just its fabulous mascot and
the many other merch opportunities that it presents, by the way,
I think we're really just scratching the surface here. As

(23:25):
a matter of commerce, The Nashville Balls would do phenomenally well,
and I think it would become kind of a lifestyle brand.
But the other part of this is on what basis
would the w NBA, given its current leadership decisions and policies,
on what basis would they.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Allow or exclude.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Somebody from being a self described trans player, as in,
could you have Charles Barkley put on a wig and
be like, yeah, I'm a woman, now let's play. You
know how could they say no? What would the They're
not going to do like testosterone testing or any of
these things. So I think that you would run. What

(24:13):
you'd run into is what is the current Well, first
of all, what are the current regulations for whether somebody
would be considered a trans player who could play in
the WNBA? And really, really what we need We need
a trans player in the WNBA who is completely dominant
and makes a mockery of that.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
We just need one.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
The team thing is fun, and I get why everyone's
enjoying talking about that, including us, but all you need
is one entirely dominant player. Because we saw this in
mixed martial arts. There was a there was a male
to female mixed martial arts competitor, and it was dangerous
for the women. Oh, it was dangerous. We were being
extremely severely harmed and beat up in a way that

(24:53):
was not normal for women fighting against other women, and
that kind of brought an end to that. I'm somebody
who doesn't enjoy women in mixed martial arts personally at
all period.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Women's women's physiology is meant for that. People can get
mad at me. I don't care they're wrong, but nonetheless
that's the only way this goes away.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Look, I think that is a certainty that it needs
to happen. Here's another fun thing we're gonna do. Nashville
Balls merchandise. In fact, I'm texting about making Nashville Balls
merchandise during the course of this program. Let me hit
you at this buck if we brand the Nashville Balls
w NBA champions well, the WNBA suit and how amazing

(25:36):
would that lawsuit be if I would then get to
depose the WNBA commissioner about trans related issues in the sport.
I'm basically just telling you that I'm going to set
a legal trap for the WNBA to sue me and
argue that my Nashville Balls team is not actually the

(25:57):
WNBA champion, which will set up a series of profoundly
absurd legal situations if they elect to sue over Nashville
Ball's w NBA champion merchandise. Here's the other thing, buck,
let me I think we have Do we have Arena Sabolenka?
Do we have the audio of this? The WTA, the

(26:19):
Women's Tennis Association, has come out and said, hey, we're
not going to allow men to compete in tennis. The
NCAA because Trump won the election and issued an executive
order in the wake of Leah Thomas winning a women's
title as a man tucking his penis into a women's
bathing suit. Somehow. I don't even know how that works.

(26:41):
It's just a patently absurd situation. Riley Gaines has talked
a lot about that. All of these women's organizations that
actually want to fight against it, including the Olympics, have
just come out and said, we're not going to allow
men who identify as women to be able to do this.
All they have to do, all they have to do
in the WNBA is say the WNBA is for women.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
They won't say it.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Here is cut five with Arena Sabolinka, who is I
believe the number one women's tennis player in America. Courages
in the wrgeous book in the world. Sorry, yes, in
the world, also in America. Here she is getting in
line behind Sophie Cunningham and saying, yes, this is the
right thing to do for women's sports.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Cut five.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
The WTA recently announced that players will take a one
time gender test.

Speaker 11 (27:30):
How do you feel about that, the first pro league
to go in that direction.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
I think it's really important to keep the fairness in
our tour. And it's always the biologically right, the man
way stronger than women, so I feel like it would
be not really fair for that woman to compete against
biological men. So it's I believe it took them a
little while to make the decision, and I support it.

(27:55):
But for me, I'm focusing on myself on my goals.
You know, whatever they said, they want to test of us, all,
I'm happy to do that. It's pretty fair and let's
keep it that way.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
And she's Russian, so she's not you know, she's not
subjected to the same kind of nonsense, left wing wokeism
on a regular basis. And also they've been they've been
blacking out the flag next to her name for years.
I think they still do that, as if that's going
to teach putin a lesson. It's not her fault that
her country is embroiled in a very nasty war with Ukraine.

(28:29):
She didn't start the war. But anyway, Clay, this is all.
I think it's even more important for tennis to draw
this line, or rather more urgent, because Okay, if you're
going to allow men to compete against women in tennis,
first of all, it's very similar to if you have
a high level male college tennis player, he's going to

(28:51):
pretty much smoke all but maybe the top twenty or
thirty women in the world.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
I mean, if you.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Would smoke them. We had this discussion. I talked to
a bunch of tennis players. They said, any starting male
college tennis player would beat Venus and Serena Williams at
the apex of their ability, beyond the shadow of a doubt.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yeah, I mean, because they just they move faster, they
hit harder, all the balls have more weight behind them,
and yeah, the whole thing. But so think about this.
You could be I think the men's purse and the
women's purse by the way which are equal in tennis. Now,
I will say women's tennis is actually unlike the WNBA
A I think an excellent spectator experience like you can

(29:29):
and I think it's even better in some ways than
the male experience of tennis, because people can get mad
me for this too. But the serve is such a
if you're a tennis player, the serve is such a
big deal in men's tennis, and the points are much
shorter in women's tennis. The serve is much less of
a thing, so you can appreciate the crafting of the
points and and you can kind of watch a little
more and you can follow it a little bit better

(29:50):
than men. I would have just hitting one hundred and
forty mile one hours, sir.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
I would also add in Buck, I mean two out
of three tennis sets is actually for most viewers way
better than three be out of five, because I would
agree with watch a five hour Most people don't want
to watch a five hour tennis match, so women's so
women's tennis having equal purse, I that actually I have
no problem with women's tennis gets great ratings and women's tennis.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Is a great watch. But I just think that if
you were off. If you're a guy, you could make
you could show to the US Open and you could
just beat all the women and make three million bucks,
which is I think what the purse is, three million dollars.
I think that I think that that somebody at some
point would be like, I'm gonna grow my hair long,
say my name is not you know, is not is
not Tony, It's Tanya, and I'm gonna make that three

(30:33):
million bucks and laugh at everybody about it.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
I think you would have that problem.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
So yeah, look, I think it one is necessary. I
give credit to Sabolinka and others and for brave women
who are speaking out, but again, all the WNBA would
have to do. This ties in with the clip we
played yesterday Buck of Caitlin Clark, and you said, hey,
you know her deciding not to weigh in. She said
the league should make that decision. That would protect all

(31:00):
the players and coaches from having to take the heat.
This should be a commissioner based decision where the commissioner
should just say, hey, biological women only period, We're putting
this to rest. We're never going to consider this any further.
They won't say it. That's significant.

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Speaker 1 (32:22):
Keeping it real, keeping it right, Klaian Buck. Find them
on the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Welcome back in Clay and Buck. Rolling through the Tuesday
edition of the program. We are rolling into the Senate
primary season, the midterms in general, and one of the

(32:44):
nominees that is going to be we believe in the
United States Senate starting in January of twenty twenty seven
is our friend Ken Paxton, who is on the program. Now, okay,
let's start with some of the numbers that are out
there and let you to dive into them. I understand
there is skepticism of polls. Fox News has James crazy

(33:06):
Man tall Rico leading you Ken. I also saw another
poll from a Texas location this morning as I was
doing prep for the show, which had James Tallerco up.
Do you believe you're behind right now? And what do
you think the average Texan knows about James tallerco As
we start to enter official campaign season. Do you believe

(33:29):
that there is much still that you have to be
done to make the average Texan aware of just too
that James Tallerico actually is.

Speaker 11 (33:40):
Yeah, I think it is close.

Speaker 12 (33:41):
I don't know whether the numbers are. I've seen polls
where I'm up a few points. I've seen poles where
I'm down a few points. I think this is a
close race. But we came out of the primary on
May twenty six and had I had no money. So
we've been trying to raise money so that we can
we can compete on all forms of media.

Speaker 11 (33:58):
Obviously, he didn't have the run up three extra months
to rays of money.

Speaker 12 (34:01):
So he accumulated through at Blue and through some very
liberal dinners from California, like thirty million dollars, and so
he's been up on TV and that obviously is helpful
to him. At some point, though, we are going to
be explaining to the voters what he actually believes. He's
running from every position that he held over in the
Texas House, everything he talked about.

Speaker 11 (34:22):
He's running away from those issues.

Speaker 12 (34:24):
And I get it, his issues are not popular with Texans.
He wants to fool the people of Texas about what
he actually believes, what he's actually voted for. But we
highlight that I cannot believe that Texas will support this guy.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
We have been talking on this program quite a lot.
You may have seen that I put ten million dollars
on the table for a for a boys high school
team to be able to play against the WNBA. There's
been a lot of controversy since Sophie Cunningham came out
and said men should not be able to compete in
women's sports, which is a crazy thing that anybody would

(35:00):
have to say. But James Talerico guys cut twenty. He
says men and women in sports is just a culture
war fight to tear us apart. I want to let
you react to it. Cut twenty.

Speaker 13 (35:11):
I think people are really tired of these culture war
fights that are designed to tear us apart, designed to
get us angry. I mean, are there are difficult issues
trying to figure out trans athletes in sports. That's an
issue where we could actually come to a policy solution.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Okay, what are your thoughts? Is this a difficult one?
Do you think that it's very complicated?

Speaker 11 (35:34):
Not difficult for me?

Speaker 12 (35:35):
I mean, as a father of three daughters who competed
in athletics, I certainly would have been opposed to boys
men in the locker rooms.

Speaker 11 (35:44):
I would have been opposed to them competing against my daughters.
It's not a fair fight.

Speaker 12 (35:48):
And this is a guy that doesn't obviously have children,
doesn't have daughters, so maybe he doesn't understand what it
means to say this isn't complicated.

Speaker 11 (35:56):
We should be able to come to some compromise. There
is no compromise.

Speaker 12 (35:58):
Men need to communitive as and women need to compete
against women.

Speaker 11 (36:02):
And those two should not cross paths. It's just not
fair to women.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Ken, thanks for being here with us, wondering if you
could give us a sense of the difference between you
and your opponent, mister Tella Rico on immigration issues and
what kind of things has he been saying about that,
because not only is Texas a huge state, so there's
just a lot of population to deal with the illegal
immigration issue. You guys are along the border, so what

(36:29):
what where are you and where is he on this?

Speaker 12 (36:32):
We couldn't be more different, and I would say that
about every issue. Now.

Speaker 11 (36:35):
Obviously, now he's changed his position.

Speaker 12 (36:37):
On some of these issues, like the one which the
transgender issues.

Speaker 11 (36:41):
Suddenly he's not for that.

Speaker 12 (36:43):
He's changed his position on the border, saying he wants
a secure border.

Speaker 11 (36:47):
But the reality is, I sued.

Speaker 12 (36:49):
I think Joe Biden and Barack Obama almost twenty times
trying to protect our border. I'm still in, you know,
finishing some of those losses, trying to protect our ability
to build a wall and have security and protect our people.
He voted against every single bill that would have protected
our border, whether it was money for border security, our
own our own border patrol, whether it was for helping

(37:12):
federal order arrest people for state law crimes, whether it
was building detention centers, whether it was building a wall,
anything that would help prevent illegal immigration. James tallerco voted again.
So that's the reality. He can say what he wants now,
but the reality is he fought us. As I was
over there fighting the Biden administration to protect and work

(37:32):
with the Texas legislage or protect our borders.

Speaker 11 (37:34):
He was doing everything within his power to stop that
from happening.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
The President endorsed you. You were drastically outspent in the
Republican primary by John Cornyn. You just mentioned that you've
been outspent already.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Early.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Tall Rico has been running a lot more ads. He's
raising money, mostly from outside of Texas. Do you expect
President Trump, who has a huge war chat, to come
in and be able to help you fight back with
these ads? Curious what sort of conversations you might have
had about that, because you've been one of his staunchest
allies in all of politics. I know you went to

(38:12):
some of the criminal trials that he was facing when
a lot of people were running away from him, You've
been defending him. And what sort of support do you
expect from the Republicans and for people out there that
are listening to us right now and know James Tallerico
is a crazy left wingers, what can they do to
help you be able to make sure that Texans are

(38:32):
aware of the stakes of this race.

Speaker 12 (38:35):
Let me just start with saying I am a huge
fan of President Trump. I think he's done an amazing job,
and I know what I love about him the most
is that he cares so much about the American people
and he's fighting to make things better for Americans and
it's the whole American First agenda and I love that.
I love that attitude, I love that fight, and yeah,
I'm obviously I would love to have financial support from

(38:57):
as many sources as possible, from Dunner, from people all
over Texas, from the President, from our Senate Leadership Fund,
all of it would be helpful. Given the fact that
my total time to raise money from May twenty six
till the election is only five months. It's a challenge
in the summer to raise money in Texas because a
lot of people are gone on vacation trying to avoid
some of the heat, as you know, and so we

(39:19):
have a limited amount of time and it will take
us a while to accumulate that You said we're running
limited as we're not running really any ads at all
because we are accumulating to spend that money more like
mid September on, assuming we raise what we want to raise.

Speaker 11 (39:33):
So we need help before that to compete with.

Speaker 12 (39:36):
James Talerico, who had the extra three months, plus has
the Agblue network, plus has these huge liberal out of state.

Speaker 11 (39:43):
Donors from California that pop money in them.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Son't Ken, That's what I was going to ask you, Actually,
can you give us a census to the scale and
how much money is California and New York pouring into
Texas to try to help cal Rico.

Speaker 11 (39:59):
I think more than has he's coming from out of state.

Speaker 12 (40:01):
I'm have to go back to look at the last
report June thirty that I know you have received ten
million from a California liberal tech guy, and then of
his thirty million total rays there's you know, most of
it was an aklou which was mostly out of state.
So I would say a very high percentage of his
money is coming from out of state. And I think
that makes sense. I think Texans I don't necessarily believe

(40:24):
in Jay's salary cop and they're not going to once
they know the truth. So he is being bolstered by
out of state liberal socialist Democrats because that is effectively
what he is.

Speaker 11 (40:35):
He's trying to act like some moderate Democrat.

Speaker 12 (40:37):
He is much more in the Mondani wing of the
party than he is some moderate Democrat.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
He says there are six genders. We've played that audio before.
He believes that people are being too cruel when it
comes to shutting down borders. He's not even a guy
that enjoys eating meat. That seems like a really difficult
proposition for Texas. And again, I think it comes back
to a large extent on do you have the ability

(41:05):
to get all of those statements out for the average
Texan to see. In particular, as you well know, a
lot of people just start paying attention right now. And
the Democrat crazy wing is so committed to their side
that making everybody understand the stakes is sometimes one of
the biggest aspects of this right.

Speaker 12 (41:25):
Yeah, no doubt about it. First of all, I'd love
to know what the sixth changers are. I'm still waiting
for him to tell us this idea that he somehow
loves meat. Now, when he was running a vegan campaign
and he announced it wearing a mask, saying that it
was you know, meat was hurting, you know, climate change problems.

Speaker 11 (41:41):
So this idea now something eats me. It's just it's typical.

Speaker 12 (41:45):
He's doing the flip flop because he knows that those
positions were popular with leftist Democrats socialist Democrats in the primary,
but they're not popular with most Texans, and so he's
changed his positions. But there's no doubt that there is
a challenge of convincing people that we do have a
close race, and it's largely about funding the race people.

(42:05):
I truly believe we have the resources to, as you said,
highlight what he actually has said. His own words, his
own votes, his own videos, his own interviews. I think
we win the race by not actually won't be a
close race. We will win by a very decent margin.
It's just a matter of getting people to pay attention.
And as you know, where midterm elections tend to favor

(42:28):
the party not in power and they're motivated, we need
to make sure every single Republican gets out and vote.

Speaker 11 (42:33):
If they don't, then we got proms.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Wondering what your sense is for the Texans that you
talk to the everyday text and the rank and file
about how are they feeling about this economy and how
is that affecting how they view your Senate race the
GOP more broadly, because President Trump is in charge. Stock
markets in an all time high today, but there's a

(42:57):
lot of chatter online about people feeling the heat, or
rather feeling the pinch from high prices for groceries, high
rent prices. So how do you describe the feeling of
the average texting about the economy and what do you
think could be done when you were in the schene
to help.

Speaker 11 (43:16):
Yeah, I do think it's a it's a legitimate issue.

Speaker 12 (43:18):
Obviously the Biden administration when they were in an office,
spent a lot of money, They created a lot of inflation,
drove up the cost of housing, drove up, the cost
of groceries, drove up the cost of gas, if whatever.

Speaker 11 (43:28):
Cas was very high during the Biden administration.

Speaker 12 (43:30):
So you know, they did it on purpose by borrowing
money and spending it and giving it away to all
kinds of different projects. But it hurt the American people.
And of course, with this war going on with Iran,
we don't have high gas prices again, they'd come down,
and so it is definitely having the impact because gas prices,
energy prices affect the entire economy. They caught they increased

(43:51):
the cost of goods in all kinds of different environments,
including groceries and other things that people care about.

Speaker 11 (43:58):
So we definitely have some things to deal with.

Speaker 12 (44:00):
And I'm certainly hopeful that this thing with the RANN
can come to an end successfully, And of course I
don't have the intelligence on how that's working, but I'm
very optimistic that President Trump understands this situation, understands we're American,
what Americans are dealing with, And when I have the opportunity,
we're atually going to announce the economic plan that I
think will help. We're gonna do that later today, so

(44:21):
stay tuned on that.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
All right.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I've got the toughest question for you in the state
of Texas. The Coaches Poll just came out for college football.
I'm not sure if you've seen this yet, so nobody's
been able to maybe get you breaking news. All right,
So here's breaking news for Texans out there. This is
the Coaches Poll. Texas Longhorns pre season number four, Texas

(44:44):
A and M pre season number eight, Texas Tech pre
season number twelve, SMU preseason number twenty, Houston pre season
number twenty four. So for state of Texas, five of
the top twenty fourteen teams in the nation are right
now ranked. Buck will have no idea on this, but

(45:06):
for you, I'm putting you on the hot seat here.
Which of the Texas top twenty five football programs I
just ran through is going to have the best season
this fall?

Speaker 2 (45:18):
You know?

Speaker 11 (45:19):
I am going to guess that.

Speaker 12 (45:22):
It looks like the rankings have Texas with Arch Manning,
I guess going to be their quarterback this year. I
think they have a pretty good chance of having a
really good season. I was a little more optimistic for
him last last season. They didn't perform like I think
we all hoped and expected. But I think Texas has
got a really good chance. And I would never count

(45:44):
A and M ol. They always are recruiting well, they
have a big reach, and any of these schools in
Texas that are ranked as you know, have an opportunity
to finish very well this year.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
All right, you have a strong tank. He's took the
words right out of your TA. Look, Marcel Reid, who
went to my kids high school. Awesome guy, Texas A
and M's coach. I love Arch Manning and his family too.
I can't wait for college football to kickoff. I'm sure
you're going to be campaigning at a bunch of these
stadiums during the fall. Let us know how we can help,
because we'll be at a bunch of these games. I'm

(46:17):
going to try to get bucked down for the some
of these big games again in Texas's fall.

Speaker 12 (46:23):
I will be likely at a college football game every Saturday,
different stadiums obviously around the state, beating people and enjoying
the scene with my constituents.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Amen, good luck.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Let us know how we can help, and everybody out there,
Ken Paxton on the ballot needs to make sure that
James crazy freak tall Rico is not representing the lone
Star state come January.

Speaker 11 (46:48):
Well, thank you for having me on. We've got to
fight ahead of us. We're going to win this.

Speaker 12 (46:52):
I just encourage people to every day it's spend five
minutes telling people about this race and telling him about
the real James tall Rico, not the fake one that's
running right now.

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Speaker 1 (48:08):
Welcome back in our number three, Clay Travis. We are
rolling through the Tuesday edition of the program. A ton
of different stories that we are following. Let me kind
of give you a little bit of a rundown where
we are. Michigan primary season underway. The big one on
the Democrat side, Hailey Stevens versus Abdul lsiad that is

(48:32):
going to determine who runs against Mike Rodgers. Also John
James going up in the Republican side of the governor's
race in an open side seat with we have the
two term incumbent governor now having to step down, and
the expectation is that Republicans can actually be somewhat competitive

(48:59):
in that state.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
With Gretchen Whitmer on her way out.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
We have, as I speak to all of you at
this exact moment, record high stock prices being set all
time high in the S and P five hundred and
also in the in the dal Jones. We have a
continued fallout of our fun surrounding the ridiculousness of men

(49:25):
being able to compete in women's pro basketball. The Nashville Balls,
as you heard in the last hour, continue to provoke
and a.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Lot of reaction.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
And we have in Wisconsin this crazy Democrat candidate Francesca Hong,
who has managed to put together a series of the
most improbable, crazy, insane left wing talking points that anyone
has been able to put together anywhere. Now other aspects

(49:58):
out there, Todd Blair Branch the next Attorney General. His
nomination has made it out of committee. It does appear
that he will be officially confirmed and will be able
to take over there. But Buck, I do think of
some of these stories about Francesca Hong are so crazy

(50:23):
that I want to play a few more of these cuts. Earlier,
we had Francesca Hong choosing not to say that she
made a poor decision when she said we should cancel
Thanksgiving she also wants to end all prisons defund the police.
This chick is crazy. Here is cut nine on that,

(50:46):
and I'm going to just run through a bunch of
these crazy socialist positions that she has.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Let's listen. Cut nine.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
He said, you.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Don't support abolishing prisons. Do you still hold the view
that you laid out in May, which was that in
a perfect world, it would be a world without prisons.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
I think talking about what may be aspirational and then
understanding the role of the governor, what they can and
cannot do, and what is implementable right now, these are
different conversations. If we're going to be serious about public
safety and ensure that everyone's human right to feel safe
is what we are trying to do. We have to

(51:23):
make sure that the system right now that is incarcerating
more black and brown men than any other state in
the country right now where we have our schools are
having to go to referendum just to try to figure
out if they can keep the lights on. Making sure
that we are delivering solutions, not focusing on labels or slogans,

(51:43):
because governing ultimately is about making sure that we're working
with our partners in communities, on the issues that they
care about.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
A lot of word salad there, buck, But she got
to the staples of black and brown people are being
put in prison more or that's because black and brown
people commit more crimes than, for instance, Asian people do. Right,
I mean this whole argument way more. Yes, if you
look at murder, murder overwhelmingly committed by young black men.

(52:15):
That's why young black men are in prison for murder
more than Asian men are. In fact, if we had
the murder rate of Asian men across the entire United States,
for both Hispanic, white and black, there would be almost
no murder rate at all. If you actually do the
research to look at, for instance, the rate of violent

(52:37):
crime that Asian men are involved in, the whole United
States would effectively have no violent crime if we had
the Asian male violent crime rate.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
I told you when I was in Taiwan, I looked
up the stats because it is a everyone should experience.
You should find a country or a place you can
go to where there is essentially no violent crime and
so little property crime as to be like a lightning
strike situation you did.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
With your cell phone and a coffee shop in Taiwan.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Well, I didn't do it, but I saw people doing it,
meaning yeah, people leave there. So if you're at a
coffee shop in Taipei, which has six million people, the
capital of Taiwan, you can and Steve Yates our buddies
Nation States with Yates Great podcast. He was my my Shirpa,
my guru through all things Taiwan.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
He was there with me. But Clay, people would leave
their phone down to hold.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Their spot, just to let somebody know, oh, this chair
is taken, so they'd get up, they go to the bathroom,
they'd leave their thousand dollars phone or by the way,
their their fancy handbag, whatever it is, without a second thought.
And the part of it that was even funnier to
me was how funny it was to the Taiwanese. Like
we had a you know, a guide with us, a

(53:55):
minder and I said, you know, what are they doing?

Speaker 2 (53:58):
And she said, what do you mean?

Speaker 3 (53:59):
What are they doing? I said, aren't they Aren't they worried?
Why would they be worried? Like it's this whole we
have been raised to think, or rather we have lived
in a society where it is normal to think that
we just have to have people who murder people for
no reason, who steal things constantly, who have no regard

(54:19):
for the laws, no accountability for themselves whatsoever, and that
that's just going to be. By the way, it's less
than one percent, even in a high crime city, it's
less than one percent of the overall population doing the
violent crime. So that should be really heartening to everybody.
But there's a disparity. And the disparity is that an
overwhelming majority of the violent crime in every major American

(54:40):
city is black and Latino or black and Hispanic, same thing,
black and brown people effectively. And this is why she
immediately she's just trying to say that this is clay.
Like I said, she's a race communist, so this is
what she's supposed to say. Do you remember the Socle hoax?
You heard of this before? I just this is such

(55:00):
a this is so the Socle hoax was this guy
back in the late nineties. He was a physicist and
he wanted to prove how stupid and how stupid this
the postmodernist departments of these different universities were. And how
if you just put a bunch of words together that
they know the buzzwords, Yeah, like you know, like black

(55:22):
and brown people, abolish prison, blah blah. You say these things, right, communities,
communities of color, and social justice and reparative justice and
all these things.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
You say these things.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
So this guy wrote a paper meant to be completely absurd,
and it got published right away in like some elite
academic journal. And the guy's name was Socle. That's why
it's called the Soco hoax. When you hear this woman talking,
it's like she's running a Socle hoax. It's just a
bunch of words put together to show I'm a social
justice warrior. I'm a race communist. So Caitlin Collins, that

(55:57):
was her CNN show. I give her credit for asking
the questions. Buck, you know this to be true too.
If Caitlyn Collins, as a white woman, given the standards
of race in identity politics on the left, if she
pushed back and she said, well, you say that black
and brown people are being over overly put in prisons.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Here are the data. Are you suggesting that people who
commit violent crime shouldn't be put in prison? Here's the
dat I'm gonna run through it and push back against this.
She would be in danger of losing her job because
it might go viral, and they would say, how dare
a white woman push back against the idea that there
isn't a mass incarceration issue here, by the way, buck

(56:44):
speaking of race politics, Francesca Hang is married to a
white man, as often many of these race communists are.
Isn't elon Omar married to a white man, Rashida Tulio,
She is married to a rail Kamala Harris is married
to a Jewish lawyer, a white guy. Here is Francesca

(57:07):
Hang describing having a half white son and so she
lives in proximity to whiteness.

Speaker 14 (57:15):
I wasn't always aware of the struggles of other communities
of color, because for me, a simulation always kind of
took over, and so.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
I did marry.

Speaker 14 (57:26):
And proximity to whiteness continues, right, I am. My son
is biracial. He's half white and half Korean, and I
think navigating, you know, what his identity is and and
how people perceive him is always at the back of
my mind as well.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Proximity to whiteness is such a ridiculous phrase that could
only come out of these race communists. So they don't
talk like normal people. It's like Latin X. Remember when
they tried to decide that everything was going to be
Latin X proximity to whiteness, proximity to blackness, like this
is just absurd. Here's another coupled by the way Buck.
Just to get all these in, she also said, well,

(58:04):
we've got to expand the Supreme Court cut ten.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
So you do support the Senate, the Supreme Court, and prisons,
the existence of prisons.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
Yes, I support all those things right now that are
helping to ensure that there is public safety. But I
do believe right now in our Supreme Court that we
should be working to expand the court.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Expand the court. She does now support the Senate. That's
nice to know because a bunch of the Democrats socialists
say that the Senate should be abolished. That's their new
argument as well as the courts.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Buck. Here's one more.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
She says tipping is racist tipping giving people money to
provide a service.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
This is cut twelve.

Speaker 7 (58:44):
In the service industry, we are finally having this conversation about,
you know, how our industry really did come from it
and kind of is rooted in white supremacy.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
That tipping in itself.

Speaker 7 (58:57):
If we look at the history of tipping and how
racist it is, and how it has kept wages low
for black people for a very long time. And if
you look at tipping now, how different the scales are
in terms of who receives some higher percentage of the
tips over other folks.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
First of all, if you're going to talk about black
people in tipping, I would submit that a lot of
people would say black people do not tip on the
same level as other people, which I don't know if
that's considered to be racist, but that's the flip side
of tipping itself being racist. Of course, here is the reality.
Everything is racist. Every single thing for these race communists

(59:38):
is racist. Again, Buck, I am optimistic that Republicans are
going to be able to win this race. You know
who says that he thinks Republicans are going to win
the race when this chick is is nominated. Buck, the
current Democrat governor just came out and said if she's
the nominee, Republicans are going to win the governors office

(01:00:01):
in Wisconsin, which would be huge coming into twenty twenty
eight when we're talking about having Wisconsin being yet again
one of the must win states for Democrats and Republicans.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
But I would remind everyone that once again to our
race communism discussion here within the Soviet Union, within true
communist countries, everything is always through the lens of how
do we center this around Marxism? How do we also
use language that is jargon meant to give some veneer

(01:00:37):
of rationality or even science to what we're doing, like
scientific elevation to what we're doing. And you see this
with the way that they talk about all this stuff.
It's always it's always about centering proximity to all this stuff.
It's jargon because it's all through You asked, is everything racist? Yes,

(01:01:01):
fundamentally that is their position, the race communists of America,
which is a primary ideological underpinning, a foundational element of
the modern Democrat Party after it was the party of
slavery and abject actual racism for a long time. Whole
other discussion. The modern Democrat Party is a raced communism

(01:01:21):
obsessed party, and it has to be because race communism
is inherently an obsession. Everything has to be seen through.
Clay tipping is racist. School is racist, how education, housing
is racist. Criminal justice obviously racist.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
You know, beauty.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Standards, race everything is racist. Everything is racist, and you
realize how oppressive this ideology is for the people who
believe it, first of all because they're psychos.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
And also for the rest of us because we have
to try to cater to this. Everything is racist all
the time.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Even really good thing NFL draft, Clay, people being elevated
through the pinnacle of our society and wealth and fame racist.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
If the NFL draft is racist, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Right, I mean, we can play this game all day.
What is not medical doctors, medical school racist? What is
not racist to these people, her own family, proximity to
whiteness racist. Everything is racist. This is a mental illness everybody,
just like communism is actually really a corrosion of the
soul more than it is a political system. That's what

(01:02:29):
you see here, and it's unfortunately spread deep in this country.
I hope it that people of Wisconsin, Clay, will reject
this because it is flatly and clearly insane, But.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
You're nervous that they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
I'm going to rely on our good friends in Wisconsin
to actually be willing and able to reject this crazy chick.
But to your point, the risk reward here, best case
scenario these people lose. Can you imagine what Wisconsin would
be like with this chick in power. I mean, this is.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
How can she handle being in so much proximity to whiteness.
There's a lot of white people in Wisconsin, a lot
of proximity to white a lot of proximity to whiteness.
It's really crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
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