Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Aug 12 2026

Buck Sexton opened the show with an analysis of the closely watched Wisconsin Democratic gubernatorial primary, where progressive candidate Francesca Hong was defeated by establishment-backed candidate David Crowley. Buck examines the significance of the result, arguing that while many observers may see the outcome as a rejection of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and the party’s progressive wing, he believes it represents a tactical adjustment rather than a true ideological shift. The discussion centers on whether Democrats are moderating their message for electoral purposes while maintaining the same governing priorities once in office. Buck also highlights controversy surrounding Hong’s previous comments on Thanksgiving and race, along with reports that Fox News was denied access to her election-night event.

Buck focuses on immigration policy, ICE enforcement, and campaign messaging around border security. Buck reviews statements from Peggy Flanagan criticizing President Donald Trump and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), arguing that Democrats are attempting to mobilize voters through emotional appeals related to immigration enforcement. He discusses recent controversies involving ICE operations, the role of law enforcement in enforcing immigration laws, and broader national debates over border security. The conversation expands into a discussion about police authority, public compliance with law enforcement, and the necessity of enforcing immigration laws as part of maintaining national sovereignty.

Buck welcomed Ann Coulter for an extensive discussion about the results of the Wisconsin Democratic gubernatorial primary, where progressive candidate Francesca Hong was defeated despite favorable polling. Coulter and Buck debate whether Democratic voters are genuinely rejecting progressive candidates or whether socialism and far-left policies have effectively become mainstream positions within today’s Democratic Party. The conversation examines the party’s ideological direction, the influence of democratic socialism, and whether recent election outcomes represent substantive change or merely strategic positioning by Democratic leadership. The discussion also touches on voter reactions to controversial statements made by progressive candidates and the broader appeal of identity politics within Democratic coalitions.

Following the Coulter interview, the program shifts focus to Florida politics with an interview featuring Florida Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins, who is running for governor. Collins discusses Florida’s achievement of reaching a 50-year low in violent crime and homicide rates, crediting strong law enforcement policies, accountability measures, and support for police officers. He argues that Florida’s public safety success demonstrates the effectiveness of a tough-on-crime approach and contrasts it with policies adopted in other states. The discussion highlights Florida’s continued population growth and reputation as a destination for Americans relocating from higher-tax and higher-crime states.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody, Wednesday edition of Clay and Buck, and we've
got a lot of political results for you, a lot
of news to dive into today. Our man Clay is
taking a family day, I might add, he'll be back
with us tomorrow, just out for today, So you are
writing solo with me Buck aka the Buckster, or to

(00:22):
many of you now father of Speed. That's actually a
cool name, Father of Speed. But it's a truth thing too.
I don't know, maybe today we'll even have another appearance
of Speed on the Speed Down. Maybe we'll see, we'll
see how nice everybody is. Wisconsin Democrat primary results are in.
The DSA is all upset. Minnesota Senate primary results are in,

(00:43):
and I think the GOP is overall very happy with
all of these results. We've also got some Trump reaction
on the biggest stories, including the plane swap story. New
York Post, New York Times leading with that yesterday. More
on the WNBA. I'm probably not to go heavy on
the WNBA stuff today because Clay will be back tomorrow

(01:04):
and I know he's going to want to talk about
that in detail. But well, we'll update you on some
of that, and then of course all of your talk
backs and calls and all of that. But I'll start
with this looking at the results for the Wisconsin Democrat primary.
Francesca Hong, she of let's cancel Thanksgiving fame or Thanksgiving

(01:30):
is very problematic for a whole lot of people, which
I've actually never even heard before anyone say she walked
that back, but it wasn't walked back far enough. She lost.
She lost to a more shall you say, establishment candidate
in David Crowley. He narrowly won the Democrat nomination for

(01:55):
governor in Wisconsin. And that is the first time we
have seen a highly publicized far left candidate lose to
a more establishment Democrat in some of the recent cycles.
This is the end of the surge, or not the

(02:16):
end of it, but the first setback for the surge
of socialism among the Democrats. That's something that we'll talk
about in some detail. There's also this is kind of funny,
you know what, guys, let's just play this. Apparently Fox
News was kicked out of Francesca Hok's election night party.
Play cut one here for.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Me, cowpany do this liveshot from inside the Han campaign
headquarters watch party. We arrived with our confirmation materials, all
the registration that we needed front of the line. We
were told because the capacity that they had the discretion
to turn some away at Peers. Fox News was the
only immediate outlet turned away. But we can report from
out here.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Not letting Fox News in that's not nice, not a surprise.
So there is that, and Francesco Hong is not a
name you're going to be hearing much more or much longer. Democrats,
I think are breathing a sigh of relief over this.
They are very pleased that they are not going to

(03:16):
have to rally behind a candidate who I think everybody
who understands Wisconsin as a battleground state knew that Hong
was going to have a tough time. Her comments also
about things like the problematic proximity to whiteness. Wisconsin's a
very white state. If you want to be the governor

(03:37):
of Wisconsin and you don't like whiteness, I would assume
it's something like trying to be the governor of Florida
and saying you hate beaches. That's probably a bad place
to be in a state with so much beautiful coastline,
so yeah, or it's saying you don't like football and Alabama,

(03:57):
or take your pick. You don't like chowder and Massachusetts.
If you have a problem with proximity to white people,
Wisconsin might be a challenge. So she is gone from this.
This is just from her. Well, I guess certainly wasn't
a victory party. It was a concession speech party. Last night.
Francesca Hong cut to hit it.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
It is an honor of my lifetime to be your
candidate for governor Wisconsin. We have built something that will
change politics forever. The work we have done will be
remembered forever. I know we don't have the final results

(04:43):
right now, but what I do know is that we
are ready to keep fighting.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, you're not going to hear much more about her.
That was right before the results came in showing that
she had officially lost, But she I knew it was
pretty much all over. I'll say this on the one hand,
and I haven't even gotten into Minnesota yet. We will
dive into Minnesota Senate primary results soon. On the one hand,

(05:13):
you could say, and you could look at this and say,
and I think a lot of people will Sanity prevailed
among Democrats in Wisconsin that given the choices that they
have they made a less crazy choice, they made a
more electable choice. And I think all of that is true.
But something else is true as well. There is no

(05:34):
such thing as too radical for the Democrat Party of today.
There's just too radical to get through the election cycle
with a win. That's a very important distinction. And I
want all of you to remember this because their efforts
to say create a woke one point oh and woke

(05:56):
two point oh, this is all a facade. It is
a falsehood. It's not real. There's only one woke, and
it is what you have seen time and again. When
Democrats are in power, what do they do? What they
say when they're trying to get elected does not matter,

(06:18):
or at least it doesn't matter in terms of what
they will do when they are in power. Those are
two separate and distinct things. Democrats get elected by pretending
that they are not as crazy as the other people
in their party, but when they are elected they do
the things that they pretended we're too crazy for them

(06:39):
while they were trying to get people voting for them.
I could go through countless examples of this, but Joe
Biden with there's a lot to say there, but Joe
Biden is I think exhibit A. He was elected and
in retrospect, I know we all laugh about or maybe

(07:00):
not laugh, maybe you kind of cry about it. It's
preposterous that's happened. But you had a guy who had
mental infirmity who was elected presidents of the United States
by the Democrats, and he was elected as a uniter.
He was elected as a healer and a traditional old
school Democrat, somebody who would bring the country together, somebody

(07:25):
who wouldn't be divisive. And as I'm saying that, I'm
sure your blood is beginning to boil because all of
that was a lie. That Biden presidency was the most
open borders presidency in the history of this country since
since we've been enforcing borders, there was nothing as open

(07:45):
borders by the numbers as the Biden administration was. So
you had the most radical policy on the border you
possibly could and go down the line, look at some
other areas, look at some other aspects of Biden policy.
You got memos of support from the White House. Now
you could say that Biden's aides were writing them, not him, sure,

(08:07):
but he was. You know, his name was on it.
The auto pen was signing it. So to speak of
support for transurgery for minors. In fact, what was the
area of policy that was too left wing for the
Democrats that was within Biden's reach that he did not
go for. I understand to say, oh, but what about

(08:29):
a total ambassy well that requires Congress. He didn't. He
couldn't get it through. What was the thing that was
too radical for Biden? On COVID he went as hardcore
as he possibly could. Vaccine mandates, extended, the school locked,
school closures and lockdowns and everything else. With Biden, you
got left wing AOC policy in the smiling, through the

(08:53):
smiling facade, the husk perhaps of a career Democrat politician
representing mostly the credit card companies based in Delaware. That's
what she got. It wasn't actually moderate at all. Now
why does that matter to us right now? Francesca Hong's
sin other than some just political malpractice. I mean, we're

(09:14):
joking about the Thanksgiving thing, but that is a it
is a preposterously stupid thing to say. We'll get into
some of what al Sayeed has said running for Senate
in Michigan against Mike Rogers. He has also said some
very stupid things, but he's walked it back sins, and
they're trying to cover that. They're playing catch up and
cover up with all that. What they say is just

(09:37):
a game to them. Whether it's AOC or the Squad,
or Bernie or Biden or any of them. What they
say is meant to fool. What they do is what
you have to be worried about. And I understand right
now there is an inclination to say this Democrat Party

(09:57):
is less socialist, or this Democrat Party is less woke
and radical because of things like the Hong defeat in Wisconsin.
But I think that is a far too simplistic view
of what is going on here. This is merely tactical
retreat as part of a much larger advance of socialism

(10:21):
within the Democrat Party. This is just what do we
have to do to get into a position of maximum power.
They did not want to hand a governor's manchi into
a Republican in a critical state like Wisconsin. So there's
a difference between tactics and ethics, right, or a difference
between a shift that is meant to fool at a

(10:44):
shift that is meant at heartfelt. Those are some of
the dynamics that I see at play here. And this
is why while we point out things like the DSA,
the Democrats are always going to claim that this is
just a voice within the party, not the real ethos
of the party. That is a lie. Look at Abigail

(11:08):
Spanberger for example of Virginia. She is somebody who ran
as a Democrat milk toast, moderate mom, and it turns
out as soon as she gets into office she's trying
to be as aggressive as possible on as many left
wing issue issues as she can. And the whole game

(11:29):
is to do what they want while they're in power,
and then when they're up for reelection, lie about what
they did, lie about what they plan to do going forward,
and hope that enough people are fooled or forget. So
while you still have something here to look at with
Hong as a loss for the far left of the

(11:50):
progressives of the Democrat Party, that is the vanguard of
the party, do not be fooled. And we will be
talking about this more this week, I promise you. Oh
AOC who is apparently newly single, that's real. She just
froze her eggs very public about that we're not sharing
any private medical information. She posted it on social media

(12:12):
for the world to see. She froze her eggs and
she broke up with her boyfriend, who is a very
red haired fellow. I am married to a redhead, so
I don't understand all these redhead jokes that I'm seeing
out there. I think red hair is beautiful, but my
son has red hair. AOC is the future of the

(12:35):
Democrat Party, whether she's the candidate or just the kingmaker
behind the scenes. It is a socialist party. It is
Medicare for all, as they call it. It's just single payer.
It's really what it is. It's the national healthcare system
of the UK, which has destroyed the economy of that
country and is enormously inefficient and provides crappy care. It's

(12:58):
a whole range of issues like that. That's where they're going.
So what you see here is not a rejection for
the DSA in Wisconsin. It is a speed bump for
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the second hour of Clay and Buck, get's going right now,
thanks for being here. Everybody from yesterday was asked a

(14:23):
whole bunch of questions by the Pressy Coverts and things
I want to talk to you about, like the planes
swap plane swapgate out of Turkey, and then you've also
got him talking about Iran, the straight up war moves
prices a little bit of twenty twenty eight talk. It

(14:44):
will also maybe be a moment for me to discuss
situation of AOC and how she will do. I wonder
one thing that will give us a really good indicator
of how it's all looking for these Democrat candidates for

(15:06):
twenty eight. I know we're not even at the midterms yet,
but you're already seeing maneuvering about Democrat options for the
twenty twenty eight election cycle and the presidency. Who gets money?
Where is the money going among these Democrats? If Kamala

(15:26):
gets a lot of donor cash, then I'm probably gonna well,
I'm already gonna lose my bet she's gonna run. But
she might even surprise me by doing really well and
becoming the nominee. I don't think that will happen. Clay
thinks that will happen. We will see. I think if
someone is going to surprise us entirely, it would be AOC.

(15:47):
We'll get into that. But first here, as I mentioned,
Trump was asked a whole bunch of questions by the press,
and we explained to you yesterday this story about a
threat to Air Force one to one of the planes.
So he got on a different plane and they put
him in a food service cart. It's pretty wild story.

(16:11):
And this is what Trump said when he was asked
about this is cut thirteen. Listen, Tony up to Secret Service.
I just follow what they'd like to do. So I
go by Secret Service and the military.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
They wanted me to.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Go in a different plight to different planes, equal safety,
but they wanted me.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
To do it, So I do it.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
I do what they said.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Well, I don't know. I think actually the plane that
I flew on was at greater risk.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
I think it was at because that would be the plane.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
I think that way that they would be more likely to.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
Go for.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
I don't worry about anything.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
To be honest, whatever it is, you know, my editor,
whatever it is incredible. This president's brass. Shall we say
resolve because I am on radio, But you know what
I wanted to say. This guy has got he's got

(17:10):
guts and then some It's also really interesting to see
how I think his mindset has evolved, has well shifted
dramatically after what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania when that bullet
went through his ear. I know a lot of you

(17:31):
spend a lot of time on the range, and I've
spent a fair amount of time in recent years on
the gun range. A five five to six round not
just whizzing past your head, but raising your head. It
would even if you weren't the president. I think it
would change your outlook on a lot of things. I mean,
it's a true near death experience. Let's just say what

(17:53):
it is. President Trump is I think the same age
as my father. So I think he's seventy nine, guys,
and my writers the eighty. He's certainly right around there.
And when you're at that age and you've done as
much as he's done, you've lived a life that he
has led. You've got your kids, you got your grandkids,

(18:14):
you got all this family, and and you have such
a tremendous, such a tremendous run, shall we say. I
do think that there is an air of invincibility about
him at this point. Now I'm not saying that he doesn't,
you know, he doesn't have to be careful with his
safety and Secret Service I just mean, in his own mind,

(18:37):
he understands that, Yeah he's eighty years old. Yeah, so
my dad's seventy nine. He's one year behind Trump. I
gotta say, I think that Trump is on a mission.
He's in that mode if you're if any of you
are gamers, play video games, where it's like he's on
he's on a streak, and all he's doing is taking

(19:00):
on all the bad guys that he can while he can,
as long as he can. And so I truly think
it's not bluster when he just says, look, I don't
I don't even worry about things. I'm just here on
He's on mission. He is there to complete the mission,
whatever that means. And he is also because he's so consequential,

(19:23):
because this is a presidency that is trying to take
big swings and do big things, he's under much more
substantial threat. This is fourteen the cut fourteen. The president
address this directly, Listen. I have a lot of threats.
I have a lot of threats that you don't know about.
Any consequential president has a lot of threats. Non consequential presidents.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Don't get threats.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
And I think that I've maybe.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
The most consequential president. There's nobody's done more than me
in a third of almost six years. All true, All true.
You know, I really don't think we ever heard about
a a serious, actionable threat against Joe Biden while he

(20:10):
was president in office. Uh. And this is this also
goes to my general thesis that the the left and
the Democrat Party are the party of political violence. They
just are much more open to it. They have this
guy going around, Hassan Piker, who has said really I mean,

(20:31):
bloodthirsty sounding things on the air on a on a
pretty well said enough that I've that I've heard it,
and I'm not somebody that pays a lot of attention
to left wing streamers. And yet this president is unfazed
by all of this. He pushes forward. He doesn't decide

(20:53):
to prevaricate or moderate based on the threats that he faces,
and I think he deserves a tremendous amount credit for that.
He could have just said I'm gonna ride things out.
I'm never even running again. He could have just said
I'm gonna ride things out and play golf and hang
out in my beautiful homes with my beautiful family, my

(21:13):
beautiful wife, and enjoy life instead, he is in the fight,
and he does deserve a tremendous amount of credit for that,
and the country does owe him a dead of gratitude.
The Iranians don't feel that way unfortunately, or the Iranian regime,
and things are pretty much where they have been with

(21:34):
Iran as of today. And this this whole situation, I'm
trying to I'll pull up his latest truth on this one,
because that's how in real time. Here you go. Yep,
the USA. This was a few hours ago, Trump on
truth social USA has total control over the Straight of Hormuz,

(21:56):
all caps. I think we will keep it. Our naval
blockade is being called by everyone a wall of steel,
and there's nothing Iran can do about it. They have
no navy, they have no air force. Their remaining soldiers
are unpaid. The IRGC is decimated and fleeing, and their
leadership is uncertain at best. They have no money, Their
country is shot. All they have is fake news and

(22:17):
three hundred percent inflation and getting worse. Iran has all
talk and no action. The bully of the Middle East
no longer. Trump wrote, praise be to Allah. Wow, he
did praise be to Allah. President Trump, I didn't see
the last part. Until I just read this to you.
I saw I read the when I was doing my
prep this morning, I read the opening of this. Praise

(22:41):
be to Alla, says the president. We'll see what happens
with Iran. I think that the one part of the
situation that may have been overestimated, or I should say underestimated,
was the acceptance of the Iranian regime of the suffering
of it people. The people in charge do not care.

(23:04):
This is a common reality of totalitarian regimes that the
people in charge do not care about the suffering of
their people, and in fact view the suffering of their people,
which they often induce as the leaders themselves, as a
tool of control. Whether it's for starvation see Mao's Great Famine,

(23:27):
or it's the the Koulokization, the liquidation of the kulos
under Stalin and the Soviet Union, or they you know,
and forcing people off of farms and into factories and
creating collective farms that don't produce nearly enough to feed people.
All these things, the suffering of people is a very
potent political weapon and control device, and that is certainly

(23:53):
the case within Iran as well.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
And I.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Unfortunate side effect of what we're seeing in Iran is
that often the suffering of people brings them together as
a people against external enemies, regardless of the root cause.
I always remember I had a long time, decades long
Polish friend and she had some very very salty thoughts

(24:22):
about Russia and Russians. And I remember there's some story
I forget, you know, Putin had invaded somewhere and done something,
and she just saw me and she said, yeah, Americans think, oh,
we're gonna do this or that, and nothing brings the
Russians together like suffering. And that always really stuck with me.
And I think you've seen that. By the way, under Putin,

(24:43):
they've got a war going there. They say half a
million casualties, and I think it might even be a
half a million estimated killed between both sides, which is
a massive, massive number of soldiers dying in a conflict
that doesn't really get much in the way of headlines
at all right now. But the Russian capacity for suffering

(25:09):
is pretty extreme. You'll go back and see whether it's
World War Two or it's under the Soviet Union, or
the capacity to endure suffering, and I think that that's
one aspect I think Trump views things with Iran through
the lens of a guy who's like, I mean, come on,
let's do business. Let's be prosperous, let's be adults, Let's

(25:32):
be sound minded and rational and do things that are
going to be best for all people. You know, that's
his view of let's make a deal. Yeah, he believes
in carrots and sticks. But he thinks the carrots should
be or can be sufficient, and the sticks can be
big enough, so to speak, so to speak, that he

(25:53):
can get them to a place where they're they're willing
to make some kind of a meaningful deal. I don't
know that you can beat down the Iranian people enough
for that regime, for the IRGC. You're not going to
be able to starve the IRGC. Okay, the IRGC and
the people that are calling the shots there, they're not
going to be going hungry. You don't have that much control.

(26:14):
It is not possible. So they're going to be able
to feed themselves. They've got a lot of conventional weapons
AK forty sevens and tanks and things to crush any
uprising or any descent internally, and they frankly don't care
about the suffering of the look look at Hamas and
the people of Gaza, same thing. Do you think that

(26:35):
the people in calling the shots in Hamas are moved
by how horrible life was day to day for the
even before the Israeli counter offensive after the October seventh attack.
Do you think that the people running Hamas care no?
In fact, in their minds they will always take one
of two positions and maybe both in some way simultaneously.

(26:57):
The suffering of the people is not our fault. It's
the fault of some external you know, Israel or America
or the Jews or the Crusaders or whatever. It's not
our fault, it's your fault. I'm sure the Iranian regime
is certainly taking that perspective at home. America is doing
all this to it, and there's some truth to it.
America is doing this to us. And the other part

(27:19):
of it is this is a cost we're willing to pay.
This suffering is acceptable to us. Look at Cuba. Cuba,
if the people in charge of Cuba said, look, all
we need is a promise of amnesty from the United
States government. I'm talking about the you know, the castro white,
the decrepit castor white regime have they said, all we

(27:41):
want is amesty from the United States government, and we're
willing to work with the US State Department and other
international mediators to create, you know, elections in a twelve
month cycle, and we want Do you think Trump would
would bat any at an agreement with Cuba where the

(28:01):
United States would invest billions and billions of dollars with
the idea that, of course the commerce and everything we
get going with them, and the opening the thong of
this relationship invests billions of dollars in development. It doesn't
even as the government money Trump would get his private
sector buddies. Wouldn't be hard to do to make Cuba
a prosperous and flourishing rule of law democracy. It's not

(28:25):
hard to do if they wanted to do it, or
I should say it's it's a pretty straight path. Maybe
it'd be complicated, but we know how to get there,
and they won't do it. They're having I think they've
had seven complete blackouts in Cuba. The whole country is
in the dark, and then no power or I guess

(28:46):
it's daytime, you know, but they still have no power
and regime is not moving, and you'd be saying, why
are they doing this because when you know the nature
of a thing, you know what it's capable of. When
you know the nature of the Iranian regime and know
the nature of Ladimir Putins Russia and near the nature
of Cuba, you understand what decisions they're going to make.
And they're not the decisions that Trump would make, because

(29:08):
Trump is a reasonable guy who wants good things for people,
and these totalitarian lunatics running these places do not. So
that's the challenge that Trump has with trying to use
proper leverage to get a deal with Iran. How do
you negotiate with crazy? How do you negotiate with crazy?

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Speaker 4 (30:41):
Clay and Buck their wave.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Welcome to the third hour of Clay and Buck and
it's Culter time, everybody. The one and only and Cultus.
She joins us now her substack is fantastic Unsafe. You
can subscribe check out the Culture podcast is well. Mss Colter,
so good to see you again, Thank you for being here.

Speaker 7 (31:04):
Sure anytime I'm good to see you.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Nice to see you. Can you give me I wanted
your reaction to this. Francesca Hong did not win, even
though the polls had her up by most of them
had her up by like double digits. She doesn't win
the Wisconsin Democrat primary for governor, and everyone is saying
it's because she said she wanted to cancel Thanksgiving, which

(31:29):
I feel like in Wisconsin doesn't play very well. But
this abdul saied guy, we got him in Michigan, saying that,
like football has a lot in common with slavery and
other crazy things. Is it that she was too crazy?
Is there such a thing for Democrats? How do you
view it?

Speaker 7 (31:46):
That's a good question.

Speaker 6 (31:49):
Well, first, I mean, this isn't exactly what you asked me.
But I just find it so weird, as I think
a lot of people do that. So many Asians are
so left wing it doesn't make any sense. They are
not helped by it. They get beaten up by the
criminals that the Democratic Party is protecting and refusing to prosecute.

(32:10):
They're getting excluded from the elite universities, and I think
it's just they have to they have to be first
in their class.

Speaker 7 (32:18):
In absolutely everything.

Speaker 6 (32:20):
And they just se wokeness as like a calculus class,
and they're going to be number one in calculus, and
they will be number one in wokeness. And I mean
it could be anything, it could be gay pornography.

Speaker 7 (32:30):
I will be number one.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
Because that attack on Thanksgiving, I mean that's obviously.

Speaker 7 (32:35):
An attack on America.

Speaker 6 (32:36):
I get sick of foreigners coming here and attacking our institutions,
on our symbols and our history, and as for Alsa
Ed and also take a step back from that. Many
of us, like myself, I support Israel. I definitely oppose
the Iran War and sort of resented being accused of,

(33:00):
at least by some nuts. I wouldn't say this was
the general tenor, but you know, being anti Israel, if
you opposed the Iran war, well it's turned out, I think,
to be a complete.

Speaker 7 (33:11):
Disaster, and part of the disasters.

Speaker 6 (33:14):
Some of us were saying all along, this is really
bad for Israel and it's really bad for Jews in America, and.

Speaker 7 (33:20):
I think, what while why El sayed?

Speaker 6 (33:24):
I mean he didn't he didn't match his polls, but
he did slip through in Michigan, and I think it's
because a Pak became a big issue, which it never
has been before.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, I said this APAC has I understand that it's
planning to spend a lot more money now to stop
Al sayed. Not only do. I said on the air
and when play brought this up that I thought that
is unlikely to be definitive or any meaningful way helpful
to defeat him in that race. And it might actually

(33:55):
to what you're saying, it could actually backfire, I think
in some ways because Democrats that's really lean into this
now where they say, see this organization APAC in particular,
is following all this money against me, and that is
playing into their narrative, which is the narrative is of
course that we're in Iran because of Israel and this
whole thing is not actually America first. That that is

(34:16):
what they're saying. So I have concerns about how that's
going to play out. But do you think that the
socialism surge is it's being called by many people with
some of these wins and Mamdaniism on the rise, is
this different or is this just what democrats are and
we get reminded every once in a while.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
I think that's much closer to the truth. No, of course,
that's much closer to what do they disagree with? They
just think I mean I think SDR or one of
his associates just said, you know, the Democratic Party was
was you know, a slow version or Communism was the

(34:57):
Democratic Party but just too fast? And yeah what what
what public policy positions do they really strongly disagree with?
Is it medicare for air for all? Abolish ice? I mean,
if they had the chance, they would definitely abolish Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, oh look, this is what I It's always just
a question of what works for them, I think, and
what the limits of their power are, not actually whether
something is too crazy. That was why I found this
thing in Wisconsin interesting because and I've also been pointing
out they love to play this little game.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
And you've seen this for for for the years. They've
been doing it in they go, oh, I'm not a socialist,
I'm a democratic socialist. A lot of them maybe don't
know this, some of them maybe do know this. The
Bolsheviks were initially like, yeah, we should have an election.
They were democratic Bolsheviks, and until they weren't to that
point you just made by FDR. So tell me tell
me about that. By this your substack. This week New

(35:56):
York Times has identity crisis over gunslingers. I entity because
this is where this is a bit like the Kamla
thing where she said she was for surgery for trans
illegal alien transgender surgery for illegal alien prisoners, taxpayer funded.
Like she just got everything into the one thing. Now

(36:18):
you have a crossing of the streams, if you will,
with the New York Times having to be pro trans
but by doing so, maybe pro gun And how does
that work out? Tell everybody what's going on here?

Speaker 7 (36:31):
Well, it's pretty hilarious.

Speaker 6 (36:32):
It's not just the New York Times, It's all over
left wing media that this trans woman, born biological male.
She went and confronted. This is out in Wyoming, obviously
pro gun safe. She went and confronted three guys she
claimed had used a homophobic slur, but they deny it,

(36:53):
and she's why did the police and they didn't about
other things like whether it was a knife or a gun.

Speaker 7 (36:59):
Anyway, That video is hilarious.

Speaker 6 (37:01):
The three guys are just walking, they're trying to get
away from her. She's blocking their way as they're going
across the crosswalk. Much slighter young, What is she pretending
to be much slighter young woman, and the second guy,
she's right in front of me, just keeps walking and
he barely taps her, and she collapses and her cowboy

(37:21):
hat goes flying, and then she pulls out a gun.
But the guys are surprisingly just completely unimpressed. They find
a glance back, but they just keep walking. They don't
They aren't even walking faster at that point. The Times
is not clear on why this became an issue, but
she's being prosecuted for brandishing the gun and illegally using

(37:42):
such a weapon, for lying to the police, and suddenly
all these left wing news outlets are so they are
gun rights extreme us down with the NRA demanding to
know what happened to to stay.

Speaker 7 (37:56):
Under your brown laws.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
And of course this wouldn't be justified under any states
stand your ground laws. So I compare it to the
most famous stay on your grounds case and how the
New York Times treated it, and that was, of course
George Zimmerman and tray Von Martin.

Speaker 7 (38:13):
It was a little bit different.

Speaker 6 (38:14):
Since Zimmon was having his head smashed into the ground
lying on his back.

Speaker 7 (38:19):
It wasn't a little gentle push.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, you can't, you can't actually, I mean, I'm a
concealed carry permit holder here in Florida, which you don't
even really need because it's constitutional carry now, but I
have it anyway. And one thing they're very clear about
is you can't walk up to somebody because you know
they took your parking spot and then you know, like
get up in their face with your spittle and rage.
And then if they get up in your face you
pull out a gun. You're not allowed to incite a

(38:44):
fight because you happen to have a firearm. But I
think it's funny. This is a trans woman, so this
is a guy. It's a guy with long hair saying
it's a woman who pulled the gun on people for
no apparent reason. But because it's a guy pretending he's
a woman, maybe the gun you should be justifiable according
to the media, and we live in a world something
that might be easier and an amazing yeah, something analyzed,

(39:06):
and I'm very curious how you feel about it. First
of all, AOC as you know, maybe maybe single now
Doug Shoan, who's been in the game for quite some time.
I think we're having them on later this week. He
thinks she is a a that she must be taken
for the Democrats as a serious presidential contender. What do

(39:28):
you think? And also do you agree that all the
anti ginger hate that we're seeing online because her boyfriend
has red hair is unwarranted?

Speaker 7 (39:37):
If there's anti ginger, thank you for learning. That's hilarious.

Speaker 6 (39:42):
Maybe I'm in on my canceled Individuals Worlds tour.

Speaker 7 (39:48):
I mean the Democrats, it seems like slim pickens j mey.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
I I did not like when AOC was made famous
by conservatives. I mean, she isn't she does have spunk.
I mean it seems like Kamala running Kamala again. I
generally take the position that we do not want Americans

(40:13):
don't want, no matter what they say, though, oh to
see a woman president.

Speaker 7 (40:16):
Nobody wants a woman president. So they can run another woman.

Speaker 6 (40:19):
But I suspect the Democratic Party will put its thumb
on the scale if it needs to.

Speaker 7 (40:26):
I don't think they want to run another woman that hasn't.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Worked that well.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Clay and I have ongoing debate about that. I just
think I also think that of a woman to run,
or of the women they could run, but Kamala was
manifestly horrible, which you ran I understand they can say
short campaign. I read Kama's little memoir trying to justify
why she lost and blaming everybody else. But she was terrible.
I mean it was. It was unbelievable how incapable she was.

(40:54):
But as we know, I think a lot of people
have viewed her as a a pinnacle moment of DEI
hiring and that's throughout her career, but also specifically picking
her as a vice president just because of how it
looked for Biden's ticket. Something else say and much less serious,
But I feel like this may actually get the people
fired up.

Speaker 7 (41:10):
By the way, You're right, AOC may.

Speaker 6 (41:13):
Be much better than Kamala now being managed that Kamala
was so hideously about, AOC probably would be better than Kamala.
And who knows what's going to happen. I do think
Republicans are are in for a long, hard run after
this Iran war.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
I think we're gonna I've been saying it too. Everying
gets mad at me, so I'm glad they'll get mad
at you two. Now we're in for a rude awakening
in the midterms. We're in for a much tougher slog
than we realize. In twenty twenty eight because of who
is up for grabs for the votes and what's been
done for them. It's not about people. It's not about
my beloved talk radio audience, like we all know who
we're going to vote for. It's about that middle of

(41:49):
the country that says prices are too darn high. Fifty
percent rise in the cost of housing in six years
has not been addressed at all. Groceries are thirty percent
up in that same period. And you know the Iran
war thing, you know, we get in the Iran warn
some detail another time.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Man.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
I actually want to have you back to talk about that,
but I did want to ask you because AOC in
a video where she's asked about her fiance no longer
perhaps being her fiance they were affianced and now unaffianced.
She's wearing these big, baggy jeans that are like what
all the cool women are supposed to be wearing. Now,
will you back me up on this end? You are
a stylish lady. Timeless style, I think is something that

(42:27):
could be a tribute. You go with the classics, you're fashionable.
I think that this is the worst female fashion trend
since capri pants of the early two thousands. Like, I
just think this is horrifying and all these women should
be told to stop.

Speaker 7 (42:42):
Oh my gosh, I'm so glad. Why has no one
asked me about this until now? No, it's hideous.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
I think it's a it's a plot by fat, ugly
women to make all women look fat and ugly.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
I knew Air was gonna have something blazing on that one,
and sure enough she did. Yeah, I'm trying. I'm just
trying to help the ladies. I'm out here and telling
them don't cut your hair short. I don't know if
you saw this at a tweet go like mega viral
a few weeks ago, where I just said, your your
female friend who wants to wants you to cut your
hair short is actually your secret enemy. Just always remember that.
So that's point one, and point two is don't have

(43:18):
big baggy jeans. Oh and do you also agree with
my rule or do you have a different rule or
do you want to shoot this down that that that
women should have a limit on how long they're willing
to be engaged before they walk.

Speaker 6 (43:33):
Oh and it never occurred to me, but I'd say
about a week as long long enough. Though I hate weddings.
So the idea that you're going to have a long
engagement to plan for the most boring, wasteful, stupid event, No,
just just go to city hall. Apparently that's getting quite popular.

(43:54):
I've been reading about it many our times. People are
giving up on the big stupid weddings.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
So I mean, you were at my engagement party. I've
been popularizing this, and thank you. Throw a big party
where everyone has fun and they show up and you
celebrate the thing. And then our wedding was immediate family
at a church and a little dinner afterwards, and it
was beautiful.

Speaker 7 (44:14):
I wouldn't change a thing about it.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
I have friends and who go into debt for their
wedding like they're buying a home. I'm like, at least
get the mortgage on the house. Don't do the thing
where your people are spending one hundred, two hundred, three
hundred thousand dollars on a wedding. And they're not like
heirs and heiresses. These are people I know who are
working people. I'm like, you are insane. So I'm with

(44:38):
you on that one. By the way, Clay is jealous.
He's annoyed because because he's out today he's take a
family day and you're here, so you have to come
back when Clay's on because he wants to ask you
all about the WNBA stuff. So you come back and
hang out.

Speaker 6 (44:52):
Excellence absolutely loves to talk about that.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Guys, Go subscribe to and substack Unsafe and check out
Ann's podcas Cast as well.

Speaker 7 (45:00):
And thank you, good to see you, good to talk
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(46:32):
Beret and current Lieutenant governor and gubernatorial candidate in Florida, Jaycollins,
Santa Governor. Appreciate you making the time for us Earth.
Thank you for calling in.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
Hey good to be on Buck. Thanks for having me
you know, we.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Were taking a moment yesterday and you are obviously a
senior member of the administration where this is occurring here
in Florida, taking a moment to just be grateful for
the work done to bring Florida is violent crime rate?
Howmusi rate down to a fifty year low? So well
done on that, sir, And how has it gotten to

(47:08):
this point? Could you just take us through some of
the process of how do you make a state with
as large of what twenty one twenty two million people
population some major cities and yet things are going in
exactly the right direction fifty year low here in violent crime?
How do you get there?

Speaker 5 (47:26):
Well, look, we're to say nearly twenty three point five
million people. It's incredible. We've had eight to twelve hundred
people a day moving here. But you know, the solution
is often very simple. It turns out that holding people
accountable and being tough on crime is exactly the right
thing to do. We make sure there are men and
women in law enforcement have the time, tools and training
necessary to complete their mission, but more importantly, get back

(47:48):
home to their families safe and sound. You know, when
communities steel safe, they build great families great families, build
a great community, grows your economy, and it just keeps
biraling forward. There's hoping up opportunity here. It's a beautiful state,
great beaches, great farmland, great everything, and there's a lot
going right here in the Sunshine State of Florida. But

(48:08):
being tough on prime is exactly why we do it.
It makes sense, it works, and the results, well, they
speak for themselves, I guess, well.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Yeah, and you mentioned the amount of people. By the way,
I'm one of them, So thank you, Lieutenant Governor. Moving
to Florida, served to Florida now four years ago. Absolutely
love it and encourage anybody who feels like the governance
in their home state leaves a lot to be desired, which,
certainly along the coast along some other places is increasingly
the case. Speaking about how things are going with a

(48:39):
lot of people moving here, something that gets much attention
is how the insurance market is going to get balanced
out here, because there are two big problems I see
with things going right now in Florida, Lieutenant Governor. One
is the price of housing, which I know that's the
supply and demand issue, but there are a lot of
constrains so on supply because of regulation and things that

(49:04):
are making that harder. But then also the insurance cost here,
which is a heavily regulated market. How do we get
that so that it's more under control and more aligned
with letting people pay their bills while also being covered
when we could have a major weather event.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
Well, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
You're walking around one of my secret love languages here,
which is deregulation.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
Right.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
I think it's always important to say a few things
upfront and clear. Our freedoms come from God. They're all
help better constitution. It's not the government's money, it's the
people's money. And less government actually works better. When you deregulate,
you get the government out of the process. Things work well.
But we talk about insurance. Look, we are this state.
We're a smack dab in the middle of hurricane territory,

(49:49):
and they're going to keep coming. If I could put
a wall out there and stop hurricanes, we would believe me.
And there are people trying to experiment and create ways
to do that. Until that happens, we've got to make
sure of a few things. One programs like my Save
Florida Home, I Save Florida Condo. We see an average
or eight to twelve hundred dollars drop every time somebody
uses that. That makes sure that so we have to

(50:09):
make sure that's funded, available and ready to use for
the people of Florida.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
We have to make sure that we continue to.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
Invest dollars in resiliency making the grid stronger so it
will cost less money to fix a postorm. Two things
that we do and we can do, and we need
to work on even more that We probably don't talk
enough about our impact fees, which are the economic junk
drawer is taxed by any name. If they can't put
a fee anywhere else, they call it an impact feed.
And then permitting is a problem. There are parts of

(50:37):
our state where they are a half inch away, I
feels like from using a rock and chisel to pass
their permits. It's got to move faster, it's got to
have a shop clock, and it has to move to
the speed of people's lives.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Is very dangerous.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
When a permit moves slow like this, we know that
it drives up the cost of a build or rebuild
by ten to thirty percent because of the carrying cost.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
That's very dangerous.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
When we talk about the FEMA fifty percent rule, which is,
of course, when the damage gets over fifty percent, the
home comes down.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
It's got to be restarted and re built completely.

Speaker 5 (51:06):
That ads cost, that adds volume, and it slows the
system down.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
So we got to improve that.

Speaker 5 (51:11):
There's some more work we can do in towort reform,
and then last but not least, insurance clarity and transparency.
We absolutely have to be clear transparent, So the rates
are quoted, is the rate you get, and then hold
people accountable from there.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
So you are running as a running for governor in Florida,
my home state here, and I certainly know that the
early voting has begun, but the primary is coming up
here on August eighteenth, officially, and you're running as a
DeSantis ally obviously lieutenant governor to Governor DeSantis. You've got
an impressive military background. We thank you for your service.
You've got a great legislative record. How do you differentiate

(51:47):
yourself from according to the polls, the front runner right
now Byron Donald's, who does have President Trump's endorsement. What
are the differences between you two that people should know
as they're going to cast their ballot coming up here
or if they've already here, you're about to cast their
ballot if they go early voting.

Speaker 5 (52:05):
Yeah, look, that's a great question, and let me give
you a very clear response on that. Look, first and foremost,
who you are matters with no cameras are on the
ethics and your compass, your moral.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Compass where I come from, those are everything.

Speaker 5 (52:21):
So when I hear people talk about you got to
know the difference between unethical and illegal. Look, both of
those are unacceptable. And somebody wants to be the next
governor of Florida, that's not something to chew on, not now,
not ever.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
Two.

Speaker 5 (52:34):
You want somebody, if you're going to give them a
job of governor for the Free State of Florida, who
has competency and has shown success the job they were in.
I passed fifty five bills in three years as a
state senator. I've been one of the most active lieutenant
governors are in a state's history. And it's now a
position that people are taking seriously talking about, and it's
going to move forward with no responsibility. And wait, I

(52:55):
also qualify as agreeable raight, not once, but twice, the
second one after losing my leg three, I would ask
you to think about where they go when times are
heard when a hurricane hits, do they run the television?
Do they want to go get on a mic and
they want to get out there and get on an interview.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
Do they run a twitter or do they run the people.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
We've seen Governor DeSantis leave from the front executive energy matters.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
I'm a warrior, not a career politician. I under the
sound of the problem. I get on the ground where
the people are.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
Like last June when I flew over the Middle East
and I personally brought home over two three hundred American
citizens who are trapped between Iran and Israel and the
ballistic missiles flying around, fearful that they were never going
to get home. Leadership happens on the ground with people's
lives matter. And the last thing I'll tell you is this,
that moral compass is incredibly important.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
You start with it, you've finished with it. But I
want you to know where my moral compass got true.
It wasn't in politics. It doesn't point towards me. It
points towards their people.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
My moral compass is true when I talk to moms, wives, children,
because they lost their dad, their husband, or their son.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
Given that last measure of devotion over and over and
over again.

Speaker 5 (54:06):
I'll tell you what, under my watch, we will be
a people, a state, and a nation worthy of the
safer price that made this the greatest nation and the
history of our planet. And we live in the greatest state,
in the greatest nation, and my watch, we're going to
keep it that way.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Sir, Jay, appreciate your service. We thank you for your
service and militarys of Green Beret and also as lieutenant
governor of Florida. It has been great and it is
a great state. And I just want to wish you
best of luck in the governor's match up here Where
should people go if they want to learn more, if
they want to help out, Well, I'll.

Speaker 5 (54:40):
Tell you can go to j y fl R Florida.
That's jfourth Florida dot com. That's our website. You can
follow me in all of the typical social media platforms.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
A J. Collins fl And I'm going to leave you
with this.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
I'm a kid from a broken home. I grew up
on welfare, adopted, born to a broken family. And in
this state and in this country, if someone like me
can rise to the position of being lieutenant governor running
for the next Governor of Florida. The American dream is
alive and well, and we're never going to stop. We're
going to fight with Leglessy to make sure that I
can do it. Anybody can do it. I appreciate the time.

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