Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Aug 14 2026 - The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast Friday. Everybody, and it is Clay and
Buck time. Thank you so much for being here with us.
Excited to talk to you about all the things that
are going on, all of the many, many things we have.
Right off the bat, a breaking news story, I believe
it has pretty much just happened. Luigi Mangioni has pleaded

(00:27):
guilty to federal stocking charges connected to the killing of
United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. So he has pleaded guilty
to assassinating the healthcare s. That's what is going on here,
and their sentencing is set for December eighteenth. This is

(00:48):
coming in an interesting time, I think, Clay, because we've
been discussing the rise of the crazy left among the
Democrat Party. We've been discussing that, and Mangioni is an
outgrowth of that. He is somebody who decided to do
something completely immoral, despicable and demonic, which I might also

(01:11):
add has done absolutely nothing to change anything about the
healthcare system at all. He just murdered some guy who
was a father, who was a husband, who was walking
down the street in New York City, in cold Blood,
and there were people. There are a couple of things.
One is that Mangioni Clay is an outgrowth of that

(01:32):
leftist culture, the same leftist culture that indoctrinated the Charlie
Kirk assassin, the same leftist culture that indoctrinated the attempted
assassin of Steve Scalise, Rand Paul and a whole bunch
of other members of Congress in twenty eighteen in Alexandria, Virginia.
We can just go down the list. The same guy
who or the same ideology that pushed the assassination attempts

(01:57):
on Donald Trump, two of them, one obviously the bullet
that went through his ear. The miracle that our president
is still with us to this day. So there's all that, right,
There's we see these assassins and the ideas around them
that get so much support from media aligned with the
Democrat Party, from Democrat politicians. They differ on the means,

(02:21):
it seems. Although now you have this guy, Hassan Piker,
who has become so famous so quickly on the left,
who just says the most disgusting and outlandish things from
the from the perspective of a leftist and is celebrated
in the media, gets glowing profiles. Evans was talking about
how manly he is. What you know, where did he

(02:42):
serve like manly? Why? But put that aside, there is
a real problem with not just the ideas around this play,
but also the people who became Mangione fans and stands
meaning defenders, people that were not just there's the usual

(03:05):
like really sad mentally ill women who like murderers. This
is a thing that exists. That's why these guys who
are on death row have all these women that want
to marry them. You know, not millions, but obviously dozens.
There's that, And how handsome Manngioni is. It's okay, I mean,
let's calm down about this. But Clay, beyond that, the
people that support him and what he did, and they

(03:28):
are all Democrats, they are all people of the left,
and there's a lot more of them, and we would
like to think in this country. Unfortunately, that's what this
raises for me to top of mind.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, a couple of things that stand out to me
about him pleading guilty here and every network is carrying
the press conference outside right now as we speak. A
couple of things that are significant. These are federal crimes.
He has pled guilty to a federal stalking charge ending
in death, which is potentially subject to life imprisonment. The

(04:02):
judge will decide. He said he understands that he's pleading
guilty to that they're trying to avoid Buck a New
York state trial that is I believe scheduled to start
on September eighth and team in New York. You guys,
correct me if I get any of these facts wrong,
because this is the real time breaking news element associated

(04:24):
with this, and he could face the death penalty in
that state trial. And so Buck, I think they're trying
to set up a legal process by which, if they
are pleading guilty here to these federal charges, they're going
to argue there's a double jeopardy component entailed in potentially

(04:44):
the state trial being allowed to proceed. My guess is
that they will file an appeal having pled guilty here,
and they will then see if the courts will step
in and stop the New York state trial from taking place.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Again.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
For people out there, there's the federal trial which he's
pleading guilty to right now, federal charges relating to stalking
that lead in death. And then he's trying to avoid
this New York State trial. He could face buck in
the New York State trial, the death penalty. So to
your point on the coward front, as it pertains to this,

(05:22):
really what he's doing is running from any sort of
culpability in a significant way, in an effort ultimately, as
the coward, he is to preserve his life. Now, if
you want me to say something positive about this, this
doesn't give him an opportunity to grandstand and turn this

(05:44):
trial into a showcase for his deluded worldview. Remember, there
are people that have been showing up outside of this
courtroom dressed up like Luigi from the Mario and Luigi
Super Mario Brothers franchise. He's got legitimate, as you laid out,
people who are sending him letters, that are obsessed with him,

(06:08):
all of these different things. All of that is continuing
to play out here and again this press conference taking
place right now that prosecutors are laying out why they
have agreed to accept this plea deal, and I suspect
it's because this guy is no longer a hero. He's

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admitting his culpability. He's in prison for the rest of
his life. And remember Buck, we have to be concerned, unfortunately,
that there might be somebody who would sit on this
trial and think Luigi Mangioni as a hero and refuse
to hold him criminally liable. I bet on some level

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that's why the prosecutors in this case have made the
determination to agree to it, because they're a little bit
afraid that they might get somebody on the jury who,
even though this guy is on vidio, killing in cold blood,
even though that could happen, that they're concerned and they
have made that decision to toe.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
They could have a hung jury. All it takes is
one and you might and then you can retry the person.
But that's obviously a mess, and that would add to
all of this. And Clay, I just I think that
it's very clear to anybody who pays attention to the
goings on in this country that there is a real
problem with a political madness on the left that has

(07:31):
resulted in some high profile assassinations like this one, among others.
They did try to kill President Donald Trump as well,
And someone says, whose day. People that believe this leftist
crazy stuff, People that think that, you know, Donald Trump
is hitler and the worst person in the history of
the world to be president and it's going to put us,
you know, all in camps or start World War three

(07:51):
or whatever it is. They believe this stuff, and it's
not just all over the Internet. It's all over Increasingly,
I think the online media landscape, which I will is
increasingly becoming the dominant media landscape for politics. That shift
is happening more and more for younger people, in particular,
as they get older. They're getting their news not from

(08:11):
cable news. They're not watching the evening news shows on ABC,
CBS and NBC. They have online influencers, and in some
cases they're people who have basically become famous playing video
games while other people chat around them and then saying
really horrible things like America deserve nine to eleven, and

(08:32):
then they're celebrated by the New York Times with glowing
profiles about how brilliant they are. I mean, this is
not something that I think we can just allow to
continue to happen without pointing out how not just insane
this is, but also how destabilizing it is. These leftists

(08:52):
who run around saying things like, Okay, I disagree with
the assassination of the United Health CEO Coma. But I
can understand where he's coming from on that. No. Yeah,
first of all, that means you know nothing about what
the real problem, the real problems with healthcare in this country.
And second of all, they're the red lines that we

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would think we have as a society about these things.
Like I said, oh, the night of the Charlie Kirk
assassination the only time I have ever been on Blue Sky,
and it was the grossest thing I've seen online. Maybe Ever,
how many people were celebrating that Charlie Kirk was murdered
by some left wing trans trans pushing assassin. That that

(09:37):
is just where we are in this country now. And
the Democrats don't call it out. They don't have a
problem with it. They view them as their vanguard, as
their street you know, street thugs, their foot soldiers, and
Mangioni is just one of many, unfortunately, that are out there.
So we have to remain vigilant. I mean, we just
have to be willing to fight for our society.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
I think this may also buck be a little bit
of a preview to what ends up happening with the
Tyler Robinson case. It would not stun me if there
is an agreement by Tyler Robinson, given the voluminous amount
of evidence against him, to plead guilty as well before
that case goes to trial, to try to avoid the

(10:17):
death penalty.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
And we both know what will happen there if he
does do that. Clay people be like they made him
do it, just the actual the you know, the Egyptians,
with the Saudis and Israel and the Queen of England,
they made him do it.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I'm actually surprised, candidly, based on everything that Luigi Mangioni
has done publicly, that he agreed to plead guilty because
I thought he would want the forum of the public trial.
I think ultimately it just shows what a coward he
is buck that I believe he is afraid of the
death penalty and trying to keep the state from prosecuting

(10:57):
him as well.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Well as you know also that you don't as a defendant,
you don't get like, you don't get you just have
open mic night up there in the courtroom and be like,
let me tell you all what I think about the
world in America. You're going to be cross examined.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
I mean, but he could he could have decided to testify,
which would have created its own media circus. He seems
like a person obsessed with celebrity culture, driven in some
ways by a desire to be famous for his political persuasions,
and this basically is going to take him out of

(11:29):
any major discussion point. Again, they're going to try to
fight whether he can be tried under New York state law,
but that I believe is the legal calculus that they
that they have determined.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Here.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Again, this is breaking right now as we are beginning
the show, and the prosecutors who accepted this plea deal
have just finished their press conference, and so we will
see if there are any clips that are particularly newsworthy
to be able to play for you guys. I do
think that the dual sovereignty issue causes I mean, for

(12:02):
this and other cases, just causes problems. This overlap of
you can be tried by two different things for the
same thing. I know it's different jurisdictions, but it's the
same thing, and it really isn't a lot of times.
I'm just my view, it is an end run on
Double Jeopardy.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
It just is. Yeah, I mean, and people who are saying, well,
why do you think about this or why do you care?
I hope MANGIONI yeah, trust me, I would give him
the most extreme punishment under law allowable. We all know what
that is. But in the case of say a police
officer who defends himself under a Democrat presidency in a
state that will not bring charges against him for acting

(12:38):
within you know, his rules and regulations, he may get
hit with federal civil rights charges for the same thing. Right,
So they do this, they run this, they run this game,
and that's I think that's something that it's not an
easy way to not an easy thing to disentangle. We've
also got more on this. Speaking of leftists, duel El
Sayed and where he stands on this one, and Clay

(12:59):
the WN trans athlete story continues on. They cannot will
not in as they are hoisted on their own petard,
as one might say, I really think my view, and
you can tell me if you agree with this, either
now or after the break, if you want to just
hold people through. My view is that they are they
held a meeting so that they can say they held

(13:21):
a meeting, and they're just gonna hope this goes away.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
They're just hoping it goes away. I don't think it's
going to go away. I think that's cut through to
such an extent. We'll talk about it when we come back.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, but this is I mean, I think that's their
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Speaker 2 (14:31):
We've got a bunch of stories that are out there,
big breaking news.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Right as we came on the air, Luigi.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Manngioni has admitted that he killed the United Healthcare CEO
in outside a hotel in Midtown Manhattan. He has pled guilty,
admitted entirely to the crime, now faces a sentence of
life in prison. He will find out in December what
his full sentence will be. Partly, this decision to plead

(15:04):
guilty appears to have been motivated by a desire to
avoid a New York state trial where he could potentially
face the death penalty. So that story started right as
we set down to begin the program. Just FYI, the
absolute latest there. Okay, let's have some fun. There are

(15:29):
a bunch of stories out there that are utterly ridiculous.
Many of them have to do with the WNBA. Yesterday, Buck,
I said, just you can go check it for yourself.
The prediction that came true very much, I said. The
most watched clip from the entire show, will be Us

(15:50):
discussed on YouTube. Will be us discussing the WNBA on
this program nearly one hundred thousand people yesterday watched us
discussing the WNBA on this program because the absurdity of
the WNBA story has cut through and everyone is talking

(16:14):
about it and the WNBA buck I was reading this morning.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Wall Street Journal.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Has a big story on the absurdity of this entire
past couple of weeks for the WNBA. New York Times
has a big story on it. I bet it's the
most read story in sports that either will publish. Washington
Post has got a huge story on it. I didn't
even mention this. Yesterday. The Free Press, the Barry Weiss's

(16:44):
entity that is now owned by CBS, interviewed me for
a huge story on it. Everyone is still talking about this,
and increasingly it feels to me like enis cancer. Freedom
and Royce White have check mark check mated the w
NBA when it comes to who's allowed to play in

(17:05):
this league, and all of it is continuing to propel
the Democrat Party into defending the end defensible. And so
I was actually having this conversation off air yesterday somebody
came up to me and they said, Hey.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
A friend, what's going to happen here?

Speaker 2 (17:28):
And so I ask you this question, Buck, because you
were kind of talking about it in the last hour.
Your theory is the w NBA is just going to
try to wait out the story and just hope that
it goes away and they have to do nothing. That's
that's what you that's your prediction.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
My theory is that they're just going to try to
delay because there is no there's the pr conundrum that
they are in. Then there's, as you've aptly noted, the
legal conundrum that they can find themselves in, or perhaps
they already do at some level, and I don't see
how they can extricate themselves from those things. And therefore

(18:08):
they're just going to try to wake this thing out.
And now you might say, oh, but what about Royce,
what about Enus? They figure Enis with an e Enis
is going to be tired of this at some point.
But but I don't think that that's to be clear,
I don't think this is going to work necessarily. But

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I just think that is Clay. They held a meeting
to determine what they're going to do. It's very easy.
All they have to do is say we're going to
have a gender test for people to play in the league,
and we're going to go forward with that. They won't
do that, so why would they do that later? The
answer is actually easy and obvious. This is the funniest
thing of all there. They are making a massive challenge

(18:50):
out of the simplest question imaginable. They have been posed.
The WNBA has been asked does two plus two equal four?
And they've had a huge meeting of all all the
big bosses, so they can say, we're gonna get back
to you on that two plus two question. That's where
we are.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
So here's what I think is U is at play too.
I don't think they feel like they can say what
the WTA did, what the Olympics have done, and what
the UH and what NCAA Sports have done. I think
they're afraid of losing their base of support, and it's

(19:30):
not that big of a basis of support because the
WNBA really what you're seeing as a conflict between mass
appeal and sort of a small niche audience. Are you
saying that the WNBA is their thing?

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Are you saying that there's a lot of superboo drivers
in the audience of the WNBA. Is that concern? Wow?

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Well, I do think this is something that take it
outside of the WNBA.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
You know this.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
There's always the group that gets mad when the band
gets too popular. They like the band when nobody knows it,
right y, they're the die hards. They showed up when
there were only three hundred people.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
They're the real fans, and then suddenly all these other
people show up.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
This happens in sports a lot. I used to make
fun of them. Sorry, hockey fans, you guys are like this.
You say, talk about us, talk about us, talk about us,
talk about us, and then something happens in hockey and
we would talk about it, and then they say, no, no, no,
not like that. So you're begging for attention because you're
insecure about how little attention you get. Soccer fan is

(20:34):
the perfect example of this. How come you never talk
about soccer? How come you never talk about soccer? How
can we never talk about soccer? Okay, World Cup happens,
let's all talk about soccer. No, no, no, you don't know
what you're talking about. You get so offended so quickly.
The WNBA has been begging for attention for thirty years.
Nobody cared Caitlin Clark came into the league. Suddenly there

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is a spotlight on them, and what you're seeing is
the lesbian community that made the WNBA theirs, which has
a tiny footprint. Lesbians who love basketball. They were all
in on the WNBA, and then suddenly the mainstream decides
that they're interested in the NBA, and Oh, their particular

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world is being uprooted in some way, and oh it's sexist,
it's homophobic, it's transphobic. How in the world could you
possibly allow this? And so I think what you're really
dealing with is sudden fame and how it impacts the
long term fans and buck. I think they're afraid that
if they just come out and say, hey, we're gonna

(21:40):
have basic gender testing one and clip this because it'll
get everybody riled up. But I do think it's potentially true.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
One.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
I think they know they have players in the WNBA
that will not be capable of passing a basic gender test.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
That doesn't mean that they are that's eight men, right.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
It means that there might be some of the castor
Semnias of the world that are really they have way
too much testosterone if you followed that story at all,
And they're not actually biological women either. They're sort of
in the intersex realm.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Two.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
We know that they have a woman who identifies as
a man that is taking testosterone, and I don't think
that person, based on their drugs that they're taking, would
pass muster as a woman under the typical standard.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
So I think they're afraid. I really mean this, buck,
I think they're afraid of having players. Maybe even they
know they have players that would not be considered women
for purposes of what the WTA, the NCAA, and the
Olympic Committee do. So they do test. I check this out.
The WNBA does test for performance enhancing drugs and performance

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enhancing hormone, it says, as well as marijuana, which I
always think is kind of funny. I guess they just
don't want people smoking marijuana. But I don't believe anybody
thinks marijuana is unless you're maybe a a snowboarder. I
don't think anyone thinks marijuana enhances your athletic ability. So
maybe skateboarding too. But they test for steroids, performance dancing

(23:20):
hormone stimulants. But do they really I wonder about that.
I'm sure that there's you know, there's the official policy,
and then there's the how much of this do they
really implement you know, people mean, there's no way that
a to put it this way, Buck, there's no way
that a woman who has her breast removed that is

(23:41):
receiving hormone treatment as she has said that she is,
is passing a basic female steroid test or whatever the test.
This would be fascinating. Let's say that they have somebody
who is getting hormone hormone therapy who's a woman at
the end. First of all, for any professional athlete, they

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would know straight up if you're getting exogenous testosterone and
getting to what they call super physiological levels, it's almost
like running a steroid cycle. Like you're getting a huge,
huge strength and you know, and and physicality advantage. Right
For women who are taking hormones, crossex hormones, my guess
would be that they have to stay within the field.

(24:24):
I wonder, like what the limits would be. Basically, like
if a guy has you know, fifteen hundred nanograms per
deca leader of testosterone, he is juicing, he's taken stuff
like that's not Yeah, that's really not a thing that
happens naturally. Usually men are between like I mean, if
you're a you know, a CNN or MSNBC host, you're
like the two hundreds. If you're a Clay and Buck host,

(24:47):
you're in like the eight hundreds. But usually it's like
two hundred to eight hundreds of the general range. I
don't know how they do this for women. I bet
if you, if you started to dig into this though,
there's probably already plenty of ways to get around this
and have some funny business going on with the hormone
optimization within the WNBA, I would think I would think, Yes,

(25:07):
I think that's likely very true.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
So I don't think your strategy of let's just pretend
none of this happened and hope Look, they're about to
finish the regular season, then football starts and a lot
of you were probably watching NFL preseason games last night
with your friends and family like I was, and then
hope football just knocks you completely out of the news cycle.

(25:30):
I don't think that's a crazy take. Well, they'll ask
you this, what is the other pathways? Well, I mean
the path that they should Well, first of all, they
have to make a ruling.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
This sounds silly, yeah, but not what they should do.
What will they do? This is what's talking about.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
So legally they are mandated. I think to respond to Enis,
Kantor Freedom and Royce White on their WNBA declarations, the
WNBA draft is in April at some point to the
start of the w NBA Draft. I don't know what
that deadline is. Everyone who is trying to make themselves

(26:07):
draft eligible. They send out a list of all the
players that are under their termination draft eligible, so that
cycle probably is sometime in February or March.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
I would think, why can't they just not draft Enis?
And good question that would be, that's the that's a
version of the ignore this strategy, I might add, is
that they just say we're not we don't see them
as a fit for our team, and everyone in the
league goes up. Now you said that there could be collusion.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
That would one hundred percent be an anti trust lawsuit
that would be immediately filed.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
How on what, on what basis is would be anti like?
Take me through that a little bit. I'm curious.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
They have a I believe they have a w NBA combine,
So where you know, take the NFL colls.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
You're saying you could objectively prove that you have metric
that would show your excellence and for no team, you'd
be able to sue on.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
That basis, yes, and then you would get into discovery,
which would mean, hey, what sort of actual meetings took place.
I'm telling you this is why I think, you know,
you can look at this as a truly laughably absurd
example of the Left being held accountable for their logic
that men are just as much of women as women are.

(27:26):
But this is where I take a step back and say, Okay,
from a legal perspective, I think that Enis Kanter and
Royce White have really strong legal arguments if the WNBA
doesn't define what a woman is, and if there are players,
owners and coaches that are saying men who identify as
women should be welcomed into our league unless they define

(27:49):
what a woman is to exclude these guys if they
are eligible otherwise, which they are, then not drafting them
after they go to the combine and post thirty five
inch verticals and everybody else is posting ten inch verticals
and after they it's just I think they will have

(28:12):
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now by our friend Jim Jordan, congressman from Ohio, And
I'll start off here because I bet you've been following.

(30:56):
What do you think about my goal to have the
most inclusive team in history of women's basketball one Nashville
Ball's Jim Jordan, would you want to come watch, come
visit in Nashville?

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Would you like to have courtside seats you?

Speaker 4 (31:13):
I mean, you guys do a great job on every issue, every.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Debate that's out there, but this one. You've done great
on this one too. But this is like unbelievable. I've
been we've been driving, Uh just left Michigan, was up
helping the candidate there, Mike Bushard, a great candidate of
ours in the John James Seed, and we were we
were listening to your previous shows this week on the
way up this morning.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah, it's just it's just unbelievable, hilarious. What the what
the w n B A, what's the W stand for?

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Can you define it?

Speaker 4 (31:40):
No, we can't, but we're going to keep trying.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
It seems to be the position now of the league,
which is you almost had to laugh.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
If it wasn't so serious and so ridiculous, you would
have to laugh at all.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
When you're on the road, because we get a lot
of questions about this. Well, I always say what cuts
through is not necessarily the super nitty gritty details of governance,
tax rates, how accounting is allowed to exist when it
comes to corporations, but things like hey, we have to

(32:12):
cancel Thanksgiving, or men can identify as women in play
in a women's basketball league. Every time I'm out on
the road, people want to come up and talk about
those things. I'm curious for you. You're out on the trail,
there's some ninety some odd days to go. What are
people coming up to you when they see you and
they recognize you for what you do from Congress and

(32:34):
Fox News? What are they talking about to you?

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, I mean Republican voters particularly talking about just how
crazy the left is.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
And you've just hit it. But you're right.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Reagan always used to talk about in politics, you got
to paint with big bowl colors. You see that, so
instead of in the nitty gritty of every policy and
every debate, it's like the big bull things, and of
course those things stand out. We're against Thanksgiving, we don't
like football. We can't define what a woman is, even
though it's the WNBA for goodness sake, that just underscores
how how ridiculous the left is. So I think you're

(33:04):
exactly right people, and and you know, Americans have they
got up. We all got a sense of humor. Americans
have common sense and they.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Look at these things like this is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
I just came from a fundraising event and the guy
who hosted it for or for Mike Bouchard was like, I.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Think truly gets it.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
And he gave a little little talk of the fun
end and he said, we have to be sensitive and
understand what's going on here because where they want to go,
I mean they will, they will ruin what this country
has always offered its citizens if the Left prevails, if
they win elections and they get their way, and that's
that's I think a key element of this, uh this
upcoming midterm election.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Appreciate you being with us, Congressman, and you know this
madness that we see with the WNBA situation as it
continues to play out, We talked about it a lot here.
You know, this is one of these times where the
left makes this a huge issue. The Democrat Party has
this as an orthodoxy, and yet every time we refuse

(34:02):
to submit to the crazy. They turn around and say,
why do you care so much? Or why are you
making such a big deal out of this? Do the
Democrats in Congress go along with this stuff because they
believe it or because they're scared of the constituency that
actually does both?

Speaker 4 (34:22):
I mean, it's definitely both.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
They're a fair number of that I think are truly
truly by into it. But you're right, that's the technique
they always use. They say, oh, you Republicans are engaged
in the culture wars. No we're not. We're just for
normal We're just for common sense. We actually think guys
should compete against guys in sports and women should compete
against women in sports. Go, figure're the ones who are
You're the ones engaged in the cultural sports. But they

(34:45):
always then accuse you of you know, the old line.
They accuse you of what they're involved in. But it's
it's just the lefts. I always say, the left has
a template. They will tell a lie, Oh it's fine
to have men in women's sports. They will tell a lie,
Big media will report the lie, Big tech then spifies
the lie, and when you tell the truth, they call
you a racist or some other name. And it plays

(35:05):
out time and time again, and so it's the same
with this issue. They'll call you names. Oh, you culture
war creators and all they like, no, no, no, you
guys started it.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
We're just from the.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Common sense position. I think in the end, the country
always sees through it because most of the country, most
Americans have common sense.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
When you look at we're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan,
it appears there's about eighteen seats. I'm curious what your
data would show that are going to decide who controls
Congress on the House side. In other words, with all
the redistricting having taken place and everything else, when all
the counting is done, there's about eighteen seats. Does that

(35:46):
correspond with the data that you see. How many actual
swing districts do you think are at play about three
months from now?

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, it's a relatively small number, and particularly it got
smaller and light of the redistricting that took place. This
everything that's going to help us. We have good candidates running.
Most of the retirements that took place on the Republican
side are in relatively good Republican seeds, So that's in
all those are advantages to us and then, of course,
then there's the big thing, which is they've taken all

(36:15):
these crazy positions. So that is the campaign. We got
to go tell voters that we did what we said.
We secured the border, we cut taxes, no tax on tips,
and other great things we did in the tax but
that are positive. We required work for welfare recipients who
are getting your tax money. We're cracking down on this
fraud that took place in many of these Democrats states.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
That we're doing what we said we would do.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
But also it's important to point out the positions they
have taken are just radical, crazy positions, not to mention
the ones that really just hit voters with I'm against Thanksgiving,
I don't want Thanksgiving, and I don't like football and
everything else. So that's the campaign. I think it's not
going to be easy out there, but I think we
can win because of all those reasons.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
What happens, Jim if Democrats to just take a majority
in the House, in your mind, are we just because
I want to be clear about what the stakes are
here for anybody who thinks, oh well, as long as
Trump is still in the White House, you know things
will all be fine. But just so we can make
sure everyone knows who's thinking about voting, and especially an

(37:19):
important congressional race as they come up. What happens if
Democrats get that majority.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
They'll investigate everybody, I mean, every cabinet secretary of get investigative.
The oversight that they'll do won't be real overset, will
just be like going after their you know, the whole
weaponization law fair even though they won't have the Justice
Department because President Trump will still be in the White House.
Of course, they'll have control of Congress and a Congress
and all the levers that they can pull there. So
every you know, they'll investigate Rubio, they'll investigate the vice
president because they think they're one of those guys are

(37:47):
going to be our nominee. Of course, they'll go after
President Trump. They will. They can't help themselves. They will
do a third impeachment. They'll go out to the private
sector as well. And this is this is the scary part.
When Democrats have the power, they use it. I mean,
think about what we just and this was the weaponization
of the Justice Department against members of Congress. But they
had this thing called round River where they were running

(38:08):
an operation. It wasn't an investigation.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
They were running an.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Op saying that Senator Johnson, Senator Grassling, myself, Devin Nunas,
we were part we were conduits of Russian misinformation when
all we were doing is our legitimate oversight work and
how and looking into how they were trying to help
the FBI was trying to help Joe Biden.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
Win the presidency and we were the ones labeled.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
So that's how much they're committed to this weaponization and
they will go after everybody if in fact, they win
the midterms.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
You're in the process right now of investigating how New
Jersey manages to put at least six thousand people onto
voting roles. Hundreds of those people went on to vote
in the elections that we know of that should not
have been able to vote in these elections. What are
you uncovering? How common do you think this actually is?

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Well, the main tegua is, of course, and you guys
have been great to talk about. This is the underscore
is why we need to stay back, Why why we
need you know, you got to show pedal idea. You
gotta be a citizen to vote forget to say. But
what we're looking into specifically is Mikey Cheryl said one thing.
The vendor, who was who they had contracted the city
in New Jersey contract with, said another thing. Because Mikey
Cheryl tried to blame it on the vendor. Oh, the
only reason that we had non citizen on the voter

(39:20):
rolls and some of them actually participated in elections, which
is against the law, was it was the vendor's fault.
It's the person we contract when they said no, no, no, that's.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Not the case.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
So we've got letters out to the vendor saying we
want more information, we want the communications back and forth.
So we're trying to dig into this and find out
exactly what happened there, because when you got two different stories,
experience has taught me that many times the Democrats aren't
necessarily being completely square with the taxpayer. So we're digging
into that, and then we're going to try to see
if is this going on elsewhere. And of course the

(39:51):
one investigation we have where we've now deposed six people
with Act Blue and every single one of them has
taken the fifth kind of raises concerns too about what's
going on there with foreign contributions playing in our election system.
So we continue to do that investigation as well.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Congressman, my understanding on it's a Friday, so don't I
don't want to be a bummer, but everyone knows whenever
I say that, I'm probably about to say something that's
a bit of a bummer. So maybe I should just
stop with the preamble. We spend a lot of money
as a government. Last month, I think we're setting some records,
and we still have soon or soon to be what
forty trillion in debt coming up here on the horizon.

(40:30):
Is this just is the runaway train now just fully
broken away and there's nothing to be done about this
because I don't even hear anyone talking about trying to
cut any spending in a meaningful way.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Yeah, we're going to have to this math is math,
you know.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Earlier this year, I actually the start of this year, back.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
In January, there was a front page story in the
Wall Street Journal said this United States Senate class will
be the first class that will have to deal with
the situation or describing and specifically it was related to
social security because projections are there's going to be a
wall in six years, you know, a Senate term, So
we're gonna have to the day is coming. Now, what's
helping us the course is with the greatest thing gone,

(41:08):
you know, the greatest country and history, greatest economy and history,
where we're still the biggest kid on the block.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
But this debt is real. We're gonna have to.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Address it, and we'll do it in a way to
make sure we honor the promise and commitment to social
security because it's people's money. But we're gonna have to
deal with this, and it's the day of reckoning is coming.
But yeah, it's uh, there are people talking about it.
We you know, certainly as conservatives to talk about this,
but that day is fast to protein and we're gonna
have to We're gonna have to get an answer that
protects the promise this country's made with its people during

(41:38):
money after all, but gal back other spending so that.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
We can do that. Jim, I know we're talking to
Congressman Jim Jordan.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
You guys had me up to testify about that cost
of sports, television everything else.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
It was a lot of fun. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Question for you and I don't know who has this committee.
Is there a role for Congress to exam why the
w NBA can't tell us what a woman is and
actually put Kathy Engelbert, the commissioner of the w NBA,
under oath and just ask her some of these basic questions.
It's such a huge story, it's everywhere. I'm not sure

(42:15):
what committee would have jurisdiction about over that, But have
you thought about.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
That at all?

Speaker 2 (42:20):
I mean, I think again, it crystallizes just how radical
and left wing it is. Can you imagine the Democrat
questions they might ask? I mean, I think it would
be pretty amazing television.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Yeah, I love to see Brandon Gill who who's going
on our committee?

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Who's so good? It's like kind of cutt into the
chase on some of these questions.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Love that Brandon do that. We're looking at a number
of things we may do in September that we think,
you know, highlighted and that are good public policy focus issues,
but also highlight the distinction in common sense and crazy.
So we're looking at a number of things. By the way,
when you testified, it was great and as a result
of that community, I think we can take a lot
of credit for this, and you certainly can. Is the

(42:57):
NFL change there where they were headed with the policy
see on making bars and restaurants revamp their entire TV system.
It was going to cost these these small business owners
so much money they decided not to go that way.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
And I think it's probably a.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Direct result of the committee hearing that took place in
our in our committee and frankly your testimony, which was
very powerful and very very very persuasive.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
I believe, well, thank you.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
And the guy was one of the sports bar owners
was there talking about how much they were going to
have to pay to be able to put on games
in a sports bar so people could come in and watch.
And it is a direct, tangible result that I think
is going to lead to a better outcome than otherwise
would have the hearing that you guys had. Jim, have
a fantastic weekend. We appreciate all your time as always,

(43:41):
and we'll try to keep you entertained as you're traveling
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Speaker 4 (43:49):
Keep both the great word take care.

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the program. So that will be something to look forward to.

(45:27):
I think will be a very interesting time. And we're
getting a lot of great talkback, talkbacks, feedback calls. Enjoyed
the live stream yesterday. Katie Zachariah, who is some people
saying on the short list for consideration as White House
Press secretary, just putting that out there. I personally think

(45:48):
she would be fantastic in the role. But there's some
other names, Scott Jennings being floated. Who is the top
of the list right now, that's at least being just
gust I don't know if there really is a clear
sort of, you know, top tier of consideration. And the

(46:09):
thing with Trump is he's the decider, So whatever he
decides is what's gonna happen, and he could change his
mind tomorrow about it, I think. So that's the way
this is likely to go. But we will have a
new press secretary announced here pretty soon. I'm not sure
when exactly, but that will be happening. Dude, you have
is there anyone are you putting money down on anybody?
Is anybody you think is this is a shoe in

(46:30):
or a I was, as as you're talking about it,
I was going to look up what the prediction markets
say as to who will be the next precatory Press secretary.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
So there's three names that come to mind for me,
in addition to Katie Zachariah, who I think would be
really a good choice. Now, she's got four young kids too,
so she may have to make some of the same
decisions that that Caroline Levitt did.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Well, they're not babies, they're like, like they're older. She's teenagers,
like twelve and up. I think something like that.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yeah, a lot of Scott Jennings momentum would be interesting
given that he battles every day on Trump's Behalf on CNN,
He's got a lot of the recognition and knowledge with
the base there. Anna Kelly is on Fox News right now,
which is a little bit interesting to me, only in

(47:22):
the sense that she is right now the number two
person behind Caroline Levitt.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
So let's make redheads great again. You guys know, I'm
redhead over here. You know, my wife's are redhead, my
boys are redhead, my mom's a redhead.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
I would say that these Fox News in interviews are
default sort of auditions for Trump, and Anna Kelly is
on right now.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yeah, I'll give you.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Actually, I've got a couple more names too, Buck, because
I actually was thinking about this last night. I think
that so Scott Jennings, Anna Kelly is the person who
would be next to woman up so to speak, if
they were going to do it. I think Katie Miller,
she's got the podcast, she worked in the White House,
Steven Miller's wife. I think she is very popular there.

(48:13):
And then I would say, in addition to in addition
to Katie Zachariyah to me, I think there's an argument
that Trump is going to go with Alena Habba. Alena Habber,
remember he appointed her as the as the New Jersey's
a warrior.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
I know, Jose. I mean, she's I could see why.
There's a lot of there's a lot that she would
bring to the table that Trump would like. I don't
think she's gonna be the White House Press secretary, though
I don't see that. I don't know. I know that
her name is being floated. I'm just saying I would
be surprised if that was the direction they went in.
But who knows right now? I think the only answer

(48:50):
is Trump knows, or maybe he's going to know as
and he will be deciding. Do you want to hear
who the favorites are?

Speaker 2 (48:56):
I just pulled it up, so we'll see according to
who though there's so much, there's so much wish this
is this is the actual prediction market.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Oh protion markets. Well that's but that's a reflection of
the whispers and gossip. But go ahead, someone, but at
least people have put down money on this. Anna Kelly
is a pretty substantial favorite, thirty one percent as the
she's the number. She's Caroline Levitt's deputy. Right now, she
would move up Alina Habas second favorite, Scott Jennings third favorite,

(49:26):
and Katie Miller fourth favorite.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Other names on here Stephen Chung, Carrie Lake, Sage Steele,
Rachel Compost, Duffy and that would be like probably the
top eight according to this list right now.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Rachel's lovely, but I think she's I think she's too nice.
You know, have you ever seen Rachel like get get
after somebody? Because sometimes you got to slap these reporters
around a little bit. Orly speaking, I don't know she'd
be good. I'm just saying I don't think she's got
You need to have a little little edge, at least
in the Trump White House. I think you do. This

(50:09):
isn't gonna be a press corps. To be fair, I
will just put this out there. I'm surprised there aren't
more Fox.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
News names on this list because Trump watches Fox News
all day long, and the job when you go on
Fox News is to communicate an argument and sometimes throw
some brushback pitches at the mainstream media.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
So I first of all, a lot of people. I
don't think there's a Fox anchor that would leave their
current job, certainly in prime time to do that job.
I don't think there is one. So start with that.
Now you're saying, well, I don't think I don't think
I don't think an anchor would leave.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
I agree with that. But there's a lot of guests
that go on Fox News. Yeah, I mean, look, well
there are a lot of pay considerations for a lot
of people. Like when you said Rachel, I know Sean
is in the is in Transportation secretary right now, she
gets paid several million dollars a year probably, I don't
know her official salary to do the job that she

(51:10):
does at Fox News Fox and Friends Weekend host, which
is the job Pete Hegsett had before he got elevated
to Secretary of War. Judge Janine was on the five
right here, I'll give you a name that I haven't
heard anybody talk about. I think Tommy Laren would actually
do a really good job. I think she would do

(51:31):
a good job. Yeah, so some of the toad Anna
Kelly on the show, that's right.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
I remember I had the team booker a while ago,
so we've had her on her weekend. I'm gonna be
on with her tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
She hosts Saturday Sunday five to eight every day on
every Saturday Sunday. I'm gonna be guest hosting with her tomorrow.
And I know her well, I don't I don't know anything.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
I don't know if she wants to take the pay
I don't know if she want to take the pay cut.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Though.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
You know, this is the thing. You got to have
people that are willing to do government service and go
in a different direction. That's that's a very personal, very
personal question. One other name that I actually think would
be really good. That Isabelle Brown. Oh, yeah, she would
actually be I think really good. Now I think you
think you don't need to be combative. I mean, I'm

(52:19):
thinking about the old Press Corps a little more. Caroline
sometimes had to be a little mama bear, though like
she she had you know, they came after sometimes, So
I think you need to have a little bit of
that mix it up with people capability, which not everybody
who's a broadcaster does. Uh. But we'll see. By the way, Uh,
taking this in a different direction for a second, we
got some funny talkbacks. I knew that I was wondering

(52:40):
when I was going to get this one.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Apparently we're not going to get sponsored by super Ru
here on the program. Oh that's very funny. The podcast
listener Jane from Wisconsin.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
Play it you guys, quit hating on women's Subaru owners.
I just bought my third Subaru and I'm nowhere near
being a lesbian.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
No one's hating on super Us. I'm just you know,
there's some people say, some people say I would just
say to wiscons communities, can we play Jane from Wisconsin
one more time?

Speaker 5 (53:09):
D you guys quit hating on women's SUPERU owners. I
just bought my third Super U and I'm nowhere near
being a lesbian.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
I would just say to Jane, you're pretty near being
a lesbian if you're driving a Super U, I would say, I.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Would say that. Actually, Like, I mean, am I wrong?

Speaker 2 (53:27):
If you pull up next to somebody who is driving
a Super U and it's a woman by herself, are
you telling me you don't think for a minute, well,
you must be a lesbian.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
I I'm pleading the fifth right now.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
I mean, I would say I'll continue it. By the way,
if you see a woman what are those shoes called
the Birkenstocks.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Oh yeah, if you see a woman in.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
The Birkenstocks, odds are pretty high that she might be
a lesbian.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
So I'm just saying, if you.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
The Birkenstocks plus the Super Ru, you might as well
just go ahead.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Maybe she just likes the band Fish or the Grateful Dead.
By the way, he says that there are always exceptions.
There is, for example, and I'm not trying to offend
the softball community here, not that they should be offended,
because not that there's anything wrong with that, but there
is in some people's minds an association with the lgbt

(54:36):
community of women and playing softball. There are some people
think that there tends to be this, But Caroline Levitt,
who is quite feminine and lovely and would not be
considered to be a member of the LGBTQ community, was
a softball player in college. So you can't. It's never
one hundred percent unless you own a cult nineteen eleven

(54:58):
and then you're an old fogie who needs to get
an gun.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
What if you found out that somebody played softball and
they had w NBA season tickets. Ooh, and they drove
a Super U to the games. No, that's and they
had stocks. I think we can just keep layering on details.
The odds of that being a heterosexual woman are getting

(55:22):
worse and worse.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
And by the way, I had the three together, I'm
gonna I'm gonna say the betting odds on that would
be prohibitive in one direction too, though you could probably
might be able to uh get that one.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
How did this is a fun question, though? How did
Subaru come to be so directly connected to lesbians?

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Do you want me to grocket and see it?

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Like, I'm actually I'd like for you to take your
Groc out and see, uh see what the uh see
what the actual desert like? Did they do an advertising campaign?

Speaker 1 (55:53):
I mean asking this generally because I do think of
all the vehicles out there, I'm not sure you could
point to a vehicle and say that someone who is
gay a woman is likely to drive it. I don't
even know what number two would be behind a Suber.
It's not gonna saw me and say it's a Tesla.

(56:13):
I know this is coming. I'm gonna look at my mentions.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
They're gonna be like, yeah, the second most popular car
for lesbians is your Tesla?

Speaker 1 (56:19):
C Can I can I share this with you? Yeah?
I want to know. This is what Groc says about
the Subaru connotation. It came from deliberate nineteen nineties marketing
by Subaru of America, not organic preference. In the early
to mid nineteen nineties, Subaru's US sales were struggling against

(56:39):
larger Japanese brands. The company shifted towards niche marketing after
research showed et cetera, et cetera, IT professionals and a
so they looked at groups that would pay a premium
for the all wheel drive, and a consistent standout group
was lesbians. Focus groups and sales data UH revealed strong

(57:02):
lesbian ownership. Lesbians reported several times more likely than the
average US consumer with similar preferences to buy a super U.
Owners cited practical reasons. The cars are reliable and good
for outdoor activities and everyday use without being oversized or flashy,
as well as dependable. So super U went after the

(57:25):
lesbian community as a marketing tactic. Apparently I did not
know this, so that is great research. Why though, would
they initially have been responding to it? Do lesbians do
more hikes? I'm just I mean, I'm genuinely curious because
we have we have we own a Jeep Wrangler, right,

(57:48):
Jeep Wrangler off road vehicle, easy to maneuver, not particularly
crazy expensive. Right?

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Why would the Jeep Wrangler not be loved by lesbians
but the Subaru is?

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Maybe because of the like military connotation of the Jeep.
I don't know, Okay, you know that's an interesting take.
I mean, I'll tell you for me. The there was
the era of the what was that hideously ugly hybrid
car that everyone had for a while, a pririus If
you drove a Prius, you were a lib. I've never
met somebody who drove a Prius who was not a LIB. Now,

(58:25):
some of you live in very red states. Maybe it's
different in Kansas than it was in DC metro area,
New York, Massachusetts. These are places that I lived in
the in the Prius era. But the correlation between Prius
owning and Bernie Sanders loving was really high. I mean shocking.
Oh yeah, no, I think that's true. But I'm saying

(58:46):
they recognized Subaru, which is what brands do, right, They
recognize who is conceded. You're asking why do they over
index by four x? By the way, other groups lesbians
loved the Suparu.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Yes, so they subof it started, and then they exploited it.
They said, hey, we got an audience here that's responding
very favorably. And now some poor guy's driving around in
his Subaru that he just got for a great deal,
and he's.

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