August 17, 2026 • 55 mins
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton revisited an ongoing discussion about Subaru vehicles and their long-standing marketing association with LGBTQ consumers, particularly lesbians. A listener email from a longtime conservative audience member named Mary generated significant on-air conversation, with the hosts joking about the volume of reaction they had received from listeners regarding the Subaru debate. They also reflected on prior controversies involving comments about Simone Biles, public reactions to their opinions, and the challenges of hosting a daily national talk radio program.
Clay and Buck analyze comments from El-Sayed regarding American history, manifest destiny, slavery, Native American history, and football. This led to an extended conversation about identity politics, historical grievances, the 1619 Project, race relations, victimhood narratives, education, and political strategy within the Democratic Party. Clay and Buck argued that progressive political messaging often emphasizes systemic victimization and historical injustice, while they advocated for themes of personal responsibility, accountability, ambition, and self-determination. The segment included discussion of college history courses, comparisons of how slavery and the Holocaust are taught, and the role historical narratives play in contemporary politics.
Clay and Buck examined a controversy involving a mother and daughter who attended an Indiana Fever versus Atlanta Dream WNBA game wearing XXXY Athletics apparel and were reportedly asked to cover their shirts or leave their premium seats. The hosts argued that the incident reflected broader cultural and political battles surrounding women’s sports, free expression, biological sex, and athletic competition. The conversation expanded into discussion about the WNBA, Riley Gaines, Jennifer Sey, Sophie Cunningham, and the role of corporations, sports leagues, and media organizations in debates over transgender participation in women’s athletics. The hosts also discussed children’s programming, including references to nonbinary representation in popular content, and debated the broader societal implications of gender identity issues.
Florida politics became a major focus when Republican gubernatorial candidate Paul Renner joined the program. Renner discussed his campaign platform, his support from Governor Ron DeSantis, and his priorities for Florida, including affordability, property taxes, insurance costs, public safety, health freedom, election integrity, opposition to certain surveillance technologies, and resistance to large-scale data center development. The conversation explored Florida’s post-COVID growth, voter enthusiasm, Republican turnout, and the future direction of the state. Renner emphasized his record in government, military service, and conservative policy achievements while making his case to voters ahead of the primary.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To run through. Shall we hit this one?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Buck brought up lesbians and suparoos on Friday, and we
have been inundated with more comments than anything other than
the WNBA over the course of the summer, and I
appreciate Mary. Mary reached out and said, I'm sitting here
listening to your opinion that females owning subarus are lesbian.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Clay, you are so arrogant and stupid. Buck. I love you,
I love my hold on. That's the first half what
I didn't even bring it up. This is all Buck.
Why are you so mad at me? Mary?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I love my safe Subaru and that's the reason I
bought it. I've been a conservative all my life. I've
listened to your show since its inception. I'm done now.
You're an idiot, and why would I think anything you
say is relevant? So I do think this is interesting.
First of all, Mary, he loves Buck even though a.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Great taste, amazing taste.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Mary has listened to everything that we have said on
this show for five years, everything, and she was like,
I was all in and then you made fun of
lesbians driving subar Us and I can no longer listen
to the prore Like whatever opinions you have across the landscape.
What do you how many opinions do you think we
(01:26):
have shared on this program in five years between the
two of us, a lot tens of thousands.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Of This reminds me. This reminds me of when I
got I got. What is it when you throw like
a wobbly pass and the guy gets hit in the foot?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
You know what I mean from the like is it
the you get decked? You just let him over the
middle and they.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Just let him over the middle. That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yes, I got led over the middle here when I said,
I don't know that we have to celebrate somebody being
brave for not feeling like they want to finish an
athletic competition, like it's fine. And then all of a sudden,
it's like media eye Bill Marshall, I'm getting crushed everywhere.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I'm like, I didn't even I didn't think that was
like a controversial Biles for not continuing as a as
an Olympian.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I didn't even. I didn't even rip her.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
All I said was, I don't think you have to
celebrate it as brave, like it's fine if she doesn't
want to do it, but you know, you celebrate finishing
the competition as brave. I don't think you celebrate stepping
out of a competition as brave.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
But oh we all know.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Oh it's like, you know, special circumstance and we're talking
about a special person.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
So so yeah, you got you got ripped for the
Simone Biles. But it is funny to think five years
Mary was with us all sorts of thousands of controversial opinions,
thousands of them, and then it was hey, Clay made
fun of the fact that lesbians tend to drive super
rus which is actually true because they have directed their
(02:47):
marketing to it.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I don't even think that we weren't even we weren't
either making fun of of either of those. We're just
saying that this is a real thing, that this perception
that there was a popularity among the l of the
LGBTQ community, they happened to like sub brews. I will
also say that Mary, First, Mary, you have fantastic taste,
thank you. Second of all, she's just assuming because ninety
nine percent of the time, if the topic on this
(03:10):
program involves the word lesbians, Clay is probably the one
that has introduced.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
That subject matter.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It turns out this time turns out this time around,
I am the guilty party. But I would say this,
it was really funny to see all of the talkbacks
and everything from over the weekend because this is completely
all of our inbox. This is what all of you
are writing in about. You can tell me you want
me to talk about the Iran War. Buck put on
the CIA had talk about the Iran War, Clay put
on the legal hat, what's going on with the WNBA
(03:37):
getting sued. All of our stuff was about suber Us
and lesbians in our inbox all weekend. And it was
funny though, because it was overwhelmingly people saying, look, say
what you will about the Subaru and the demographics. That's
a great reliable car for the money. So many of
you were just you were doubling down on your Superus.
So we've probably sold a bunch of them. Here just
talking about how people love them so much. They don't care,
(03:59):
they don't care what the branding is. They just think
that they're great cars.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Okay, we've also got it is the eve of.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
The primary, and I was trying to reflect what was
the bet that I made with our friend down in Florida.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Light them up?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Linda, if you're not remembering, light them up, Linda. She
previously called previously called in when there was a controversy
surrounding whether we had double tapped or triple tapped alleged
drug dealers.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
In the in the ocean out in the.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Caribbean area, if I remember correctly, and they were hanging
on to boats, and we were talking about, hey, at
what point would you not go back and shoot them
again and light them up? Linda was just saying, Hey,
it doesn't it doesn't matter how many times.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Just smoke them. She is tough, so light them up.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Called in was it last week or the week before
last saying Byron Donald's was not going to be the
next governor of Florida, And she teed off on me.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Here is our bet.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
We don't want Byron Donald. He may be good in Washington,
but he's not good for governor of Florida.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Linda. What part of Florida are you in again? Orlando,
Second County?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Okay, light him up, Linda. I will put a I'll
put a meal on the line with you. I'll be
in Orlando at some point, probably in the next year
or two. I got kids, will be at Universal studios
or something. I will take you out for a steak dinner.
If Byron Donalds is not the governor of Florida, you
will have to call in. So I will take you
(05:35):
out for dinner. You will have to call in and
you will have to say to Buck, you know what, Buck,
You're new to the state. But I'm giving you the
light them up, Linda seal of approval because you better
deduced Florida voting patterns than I did longtime resident.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, he Buck, you need to do your homework on
Byron donald.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So wait, or did we make a bet or not?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Linda?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Are you make a bet? For sure?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
We'll make a bet.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So tomorrow is the primary. I looked up the poly
market at Odds this morning. Buck, Byron Donald's is all
of you should go vote. We're gonna talk with Paul
Renner later in the program. Byron Donalds is ninety nine
point five percent according to Polly Market and Calshi to
be the Republican nominee for governor in Florida. Now, I
(06:24):
don't know, we need to get light him up on
the on the line, is she gonna root for the
Democrat so that she can try to win her bet.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Can I just say, I don't know why I got
lit up by light him up? Linda? I just why
am I the Byron guy?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I mean, I like Byron, but I just thought it
was kind of funny because I live in Florida. I'm
catching the I'm catching the crossfire on this one. Also,
she's got to call in if it turns out that
Byron wins this thing. She's gonna say, you know what, Buck,
I should not. I was wrong to light you up.
I should win. Gentle on the air.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
This is the question though, that I think is going
to be out there. Hold on a sec. It was
a governor race. So is light him Up gonna to
now be on the side of the Democrat nominee, whoever
crazy person they put forward in order to try to
win a meal with me? Or is she going to
call in and say, you know what, Byron Donalds might
(07:12):
not have been my guy, but he's the nominee and
so I'm gonna stick by him.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I don't know what. I'm just.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Because this is fun for us because we have so
many different ways, all these different platforms coming together. We
have the live chat going with our live stream on YouTube,
which please tell your kids. Tell your grandkids. If they're
on the YouTube, this is how they can hang out
with they're on the YouTube.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
If they're on the Information super Highway, if they know
how to get on the internet.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
We got We've got a couple of things though. A
lot of Jay Collins fans in the chat right now.
I'm just gonna tell you Jake Collins, Jake Collins all
over the place. And then also one of our guys,
right's very funny. My daughter's boyfriend is a Special Forces soldier.
He drives a super rue. I laughed when he came
into our house.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Be careful.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I would just say, you know, he probably just recognizes
great value for the money for whe'll drive very durable, comfortable,
So you know they do they do not.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I'm just saying, so, there's a lot of j Collins people.
Lieutenant God, if you are a j Collins person, you
can right now get him at two hundred to one
to be the nominee in the state of Florida in
the Republican primary. Two hundred and one. That means you
put down a dollar, you get back two hundred. That
(08:28):
is incredible odds. So, I don't know the last time
I saw a two hundred and one political bet available
at this stage of something before the actual votes were cast.
So that's that's a that's not a vote of confidence
for us. Let me put, Let me put.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I like J Collins. I think J Collins is a
great guy. I just don't think he who has to
vote Florida. You're the one who has to vote. I
don't have to vote. I like everybody. I'm a fan
of ECT.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Do I have to tell people who I vote for
in a primary? I feel like? Is that private? I
don't I always tell? Did? Did?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I mean?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I'm trying to think about what the rules are here.
We don't endorse in a primary. But you know what,
I'm just gonna plead the fifth on this one for now.
I haven't voted yet. I got to go vote tomorrow,
so I'm planning on doing that. But a lot of
NFL training camps are underway. I went and looked. You
can get the New York Jets to win the Super
Bowl at one hundred to one right now. So Jay
(09:23):
Collins is twice as unlikely in the prediction markets to
be the next to win the Republican primary tomorrow as
the Jets and the my unfortunate. I'm a season ticket
holder of Titans, but the Jets, everybody knows are awful.
The Jets are twice as likely to win the Super
Bowl according to the prediction markets as Jay Collins is
(09:46):
to win the Republican primary for governor. I would also
say that, because of the strength in the Florida House,
in the Florida Legislature, for the state, the governor as
long as the governor and this is not a knock
on Byron or on Collins or on you know, any
of the other candidates, as long as the governor is
reasonably competent in the role and adheres to the most
(10:09):
basic DeSantis Ean principles, if you will, like continues on
a lot of this state is doing great.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
So that's it.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
This is this is a just come in and this
is a do no harm political situation for Florida.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
You don't have to be a superstar. This isn't Trump
draining the swamp.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Just just keep doing what we've got going here, make
some little adjustments here and there.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I'm gonna throw a grenade right now and blow up everything.
Is DeSantis not being able to run for re election
a sign that term limits often don't make sense because
DeSantis has done I think and a plus plus plus
whatever highest level grade you can.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Give best governed America, I'll just say it. I think
best Gosner in the United States right now?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Doesn't he deserve to be governor for basic as long
as he wants to be governor of Florida? If why
do we need termaments for governor?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I mean why why can Nancy Pelosi be in Congress
since World War One? And and he can't be governor
for another term? I understand there's different there's a state
law versus the federal but as a matter, but.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Just as a general As a general question, I think
DeSantis would easily win reelection probably would not even really
be challenged in the Republican Party were he eligible to
run again. Does it and I don't. There's a good
question for the team to look up. I think every
state has term limits on how long the governor can
(11:42):
be in office, and some of them are crazy, right
like in Virginia, Glenn Youngkin, you can't serve two consecutive terms.
So now we got the Abigail Spanberger insanity. When I
think if Glenn Youngkin had been able to continue to
run that he would have been the overall would have
(12:03):
been the overall winner in that race in twenty twenty five,
if I'm remembering correctly all the math, I think that's right.
Twenty twenty five is when he ran. I do think
that's an interesting question. Just on a more philosophical level.
We don't have any term limits at all for Senate
and House. I would argue that's more necessary and yet
(12:26):
for great governors, for executive of states that have huge
approval ratings, that have done amazing jobs. Regardless of who
you're voting for tomorrow, I think most people voting would
love to be able to keep Ron DeSantis in office
as governor.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I think a lot of them. And look, we'll see
how the voting comes down tomorrow. We also may even
be joined.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
By a.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Technical Florida gubernatorial candidate on the show who believes he's
going to have the most statistically improbable come from behind
victory maybe in the history of American goo notorial politics.
But you never know, so we'll be talking to him
in a little bit too. So we got all kinds
of things going on here, and that is a good thing.
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Speaker 3 (14:24):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck appreciate you all being
with us. And for those who are joining on the
YouTube live stream, let me just say Clay has started
something that I don't know how to put it into it,
and that is all of you writing your saddest children's
books in the live stream, which is bringing back every
(14:46):
time as a kid, you know, the beloved post doggres.
Oh my gosh, everyone's going through all the different you know,
when you're when the protagonists best friends.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You know, Oh, it's it's heart as left and right.
You guys, we got to get back to talking about super.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Let me let me hit you with this book because
I couldn't remember the name of this, and I just
will say, when you are reading books to uh, a
one and a half year old right now, as you
continue to do that, and many of the parents and
grandparents out there right now, UH have done this where
you put yourself to sleep sometimes instead of the kid
(15:25):
going to sleep, like you will read a book and
you basically will fall asleep. The number of times that
you may have come in and seen your spouse or
UH or you know, I just remember sometimes coming in
and like kids wide awake and my wife is out
or I'm out, and the kids wide awake. Uh, ready
for more books and more stories? And are you gonna
(15:47):
tell me about the about what is this the Giving Tree?
Is this the one that these are? Those are older books.
I'm just gonna tell everybody out there. And I've been
a bunch of bunch of you have experienced this. You
go through a bunch of books, and you were talking
about getting led over the middle and getting decked. I
had no idea what I was doing. I picked up
this book, Love You Forever, and it's a real kid's book.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I'm not talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Like Where the Red Fern Grows, which is a book
that you can read, or The Bridge to Tear a Bethea.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Those are kind of sad kids books that you might
read when you're eight or nine years old. This is
a book that you read to your kids. I don't
even know how it ended up in the pile of
books that we could read. I started reading this book,
by the way, I was published in nineteen eighty six
by a guy named Robert Munch, and I'm probably mispronouncing
(16:37):
his last name, m you nscch. It had me bawling
by the end of the kid's book book I had.
I had no idea. I was let over the middle,
no idea what I was reading. It is the saddest
children's book that you read to a kid that has
ever been written in the history of children's literature. I'm
(17:00):
telling you, if you have not read Love You Forever
you now, you might not, cause you're gonna be aware
of what you're stepping into.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
You're entering the thunderdome.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I had no idea what I was doing, no idea
what the plot of this thing was. It was just
in a pile for one of my kids. I was
bawling by the end of it, buck tears streaming down
my face.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
We have that in the speed stack.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Have you read it? I haven't yet. It's in the
speed stack. I'm a little no. You know you're gonna
be prepared. You're gonna put on your parental armor as
you begin this read. Many of you out there now
will know if you didn't already. I went in blind.
I just thought, this is like the Berenstein Bears. I
don't know what I'm stepping into. It's good night Moon.
(17:44):
I'm gonna be okay. I left that that book read
just like I had seen the sadness of life.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I mean, it was like it was unbelievable. I don't
even I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I guarantee you there are tons of parents out there
right now who are have experienced this exact thing. You
had no idea what you were stepping into. It's the
saddest children's book ever written in the history of the world.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Okay, well, all the happy things, I will say Carrie
or Carrie does most of it during the week, but
I will take over sometimes putting Speed to bed, putting
your reading your kid bedtime stories like one of the
greatest things I think in human experience.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I was really great if they will go to sleep.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Sometimes Speed is a little fussy about it.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
But all you can you confess what you said on
Thursday now because you were responsible for bedtime all by
yourself when you came on the show.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yeah, he was up every hour for the entire night
and had a mild fever and I was alone and
it was just Dad, which is the I'm the substitute teacher. Like,
let's be clear about that. When it comes to these things.
There are some things where I can step up, and
you know, ball throwing. Eventually probably teaching him how to
wrestle or you know, things like that. But when it
comes to preparation for the sixteen month old to get
(19:04):
into bed, I am definitely the I'm the Sioux chef.
I am not the executive chef. And Carrie was in
New York visiting family for my family for a couple
of days, and uh, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
It was a tough night, that's all I can tell you.
It's good.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
I got a few friends who are doctors that I'm
always able to send in real time now, and between
them and groc usually it just has to calm me
down because you know, your first kid. I don't know
if you had this, but the first kid, anything starts
to go even a little bit wrong, like he has
a tiny rash on his arm, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Like, what do I have to do?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
You know what, when they start to talk and can
tell you how they feel or what their issue is,
it is as a parent much better because when they're
not verbal yet, it's very very difficult. You feel stressed
about every little thing and you don't know how to
know even what the problem is.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I will say one of my favorite things I've discovered. Sorry,
we were going to talk politics, and I'll say we
will in a second, guys. But one of my favorite
things is when I give mommy slash wifey a kiss.
He thinks it's hysterical. If he sees the two of
us give a big kiss, he just starts laughing and laughing.
He thinks it's the best thing. So I got to
moving quickly.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
He will go into the gross because that that is
like I don't know what age that will be, but
dad kissing mom will become like an icky thing. It
reminds me of when my son was about four. We
had a Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue in the house and
he saw it four year old. He's now about to
(20:36):
be sixteen, but he was. He was just like, what
these girls they've got to put more clothes on.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Dad.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I just remember him being like, really that there was yeah,
that there was a magazine and all the girls hardly
had any clothes on. I think the phrase that he
said was they're barely covering their privates, which was very,
very funny for a little kid back then. All right,
what do you want to tell us about Abdul l Siya?
I was gonna say, let's do a hard turn into
(21:04):
Abdul l say Ed here. He is losing a little
bit of ground, I think right now because people are
paying more attention to his Michigan Senate race against Mike Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
We had Mike on to talk about this.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
This is Abdul al say Ed's take on the situation
and how Trump is involved.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
This has cut twelve hit it.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
He's going to turn me into the main character of
the midterms, which I'm totally cool with because my whole
argument about Mike Rodgers is he's always been an MPC.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
He is like an amalgam of somebody. He's a sock puppet. Yeah,
like it.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Really the question is who inserts themselves in him and
then controls his mouth?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
And uh, you know, Donald Trump can't help himself. So
part of me is like, come for me, bro see
what happens.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
First of all, he speaks very quickly, and that's so
you might have missed some of that, and that's not
unusual because he's speaking very fast.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
There.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
He said an NPC, which is a non playable character,
which I know what this is because from video game Lord,
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
The people, let's pause here for a minute, because I
think this is one of the evidence. Abdul l Sayad's
forty one. That's hyper on lawanguage. If you and I
came on and started talking about n PCs, ten percent
of this audience would have any idea what NPC stood for.
The people who decide elections in Michigan have no idea
(22:12):
what an NPC is. I do think that's significant, just
jumping in right off the top there in the way
that he is speaking. So he's also saying that Mike
Rogers is a sock puppet, and that's like a fake
account that someone creates that then can be used for things.
So that's what So he's using online terminology there that
(22:35):
only people that are usually a certain age or involved
in online discourse are going to get what that stuff is.
But here's something that everybody's gonna get, Clay, this is
a flashback to February twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
We've mentioned this.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I don't think we have played this yet on the program,
but Abdul, I'll say talking about in one quote, he's
trashing manifest Destiny and Football Play thirteen.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
You think about all the wars that we fight abroad,
all of the sordid history of oppressing other people in
the name of this American idea right, whether it was
quote manifest destiny and destroying Native Americans, or it was
the Transatlantic slave trade, where you know folks who quote
founded this country on the backs of Native folks that
they destroyed, then captured people, enslaved them, and had them
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work their fields because they thought it was their right right,
and all of this, like a lot of these narratives
you kind of see echoed in the ethos of football.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Clay, how is the Transatlantic slave trade echoed in the
ethos of football?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
It isn't at all.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
And I think what this does represent, though, is there
is an inability of anyone in the Democrat Party to
escape connect everything in America with the fact that slavery
once existed. And I remember back in the day when
(24:07):
I went to GW buck in the late nineties, every
class it felt like that we took a GW which
had one of the largest Jewish populations in the any
history class which had one of the largest Jewish populations
in the country. It felt like every history class in
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some way involved the Holocaust. And I even remember when
it was Black history, African American history. I was a
history major, so I took every possible history course. Basically,
the GW offered the inn paper was compare and contrast
(24:49):
which was worse the Holocaust or slavery in a black
history course, And so you're trying to analyze which one
the worst of the traumatic, awful experiences of minority groups.
And I just remember thinking, even back then, this is
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kind of crazy that we would end up in this
sort of this sort of distilled argument. But it feels
like the Democrat Party, because they have made slavery existing
in the United States, which was the foundational premise of
the sixteen nineteen project, they are unable to escape connecting
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any and everything in their party to slavery having existed
at some point in time in the United States, and
this is what progressives demand. I also think Buck this
is evidence of Lsied recognizing that he didn't do well
with black voters, and so the way you convinced black
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people to vote for you in the Democrat Party is
by telling them how awful they have it, how racist
the country is, is how unbelievable victims they are. And
I think this is one of the reasons that identity
politics is particularly pernicious and toxic because it basically teaches
young kids, Oh, you can't succeed because all the world
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is allied against you. But even other minority groups have
to tell you you're the ultimate victim. Just this is
going to be a huge part of this campaign.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
We'll think about in any context in America today, where
these victim narratives become extremely powerful politically, and they have
been for some time, it's because, on the one hand,
a victim narrative can absolve people today based on what
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happened a long time ago or historically of accountability and
decision making and everything. You know, it's not anything that
you could do differently if you are frustrated with your circumstance,
whatever that means, by the way, because this can include
very wealthy, very successful people. But if you are frustrated
with your circumstance with your life, there's a built in
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excuse for or it was something else that happened before
you were even born, and therefore nothing is your fault.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Nothing could be different. But it also gives you a.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Hold on good people. You have a power over good
people who want to make things right. So it's a
very powerful tool. Right, Oh, I'm a victim because of
historical circumstance. Nothing today is my fault or could be changeable.
I'm a victim of the circumstances. And by the way,
if you're a good person, an ethical person, who would
of course have opposed those bad things that happened in
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the past, the only thing that you can do now
is give me what I want now, because that's what
being a good person requires. This is the way it
is deployed. I mean, it makes good people think I
have to do this, or ethical people think I have
to do this now to make up for what was
done in the past.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
It's very powerful, I would submit to you. The opposite
is also very powerful, which is in your own life.
Presume that you are the reason that everything happens good
or bad. Oh yeah, Because as soon as you take
personal responsibility for your own individual success or failure, and
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you don't have that safety net to point to someone
else and say they are the reason why I'm not succeeding,
that's when I have seen a lot of people unlock
different levels of success. It takes a lot of personal
accountability to accept that you, not someone else, not some
external factor, are the captain of your ship. You are
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responsible for whether you succeed or fail. But that's the
opposite of what democrats are selling. They are selling that
society and by the way, I think unfortunately a lot
of young people are buying into it. And what it
does buck is it destroys ambition, because if you think
you can't succeed because of external forces against you, it's
often true because you don't work as hard as you
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otherwise would have.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Also, as we are becoming a society where everyone is
expecting more and more material wealth in their data and
is experiencing that, whether people want to and that, we
could talk about how and why. The easiest way to
do this is compare yourself. Compare the food you eat,
the clothing you wear, the car you drive to somebody
(29:20):
in the ninetees to the richest person in America in
nineteen fifty. You are, in material terms, getting better healthcare,
eating better food, everything you know. That is wealth versus status,
which we talk about. Okay, I got to do speaking
of wealth. I gotta do some commerce here. But we
can continue this discussion because Clay, it also plays out
in the criminal justice realm. When things are good, people
don't remember how good they are, and the agitators can
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or you haven't done the right thing. We'll come back
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We're tracking a bunch of different stories. President Trump taking
reporter questions in the White House right now. We will
update you if any major news is coming out there.
Situation in Iran pretty much a stellemate. As things continue
(31:47):
to progress with the blockade, I will say that to
a large extent, the storylines have shifted in the context
of gas prices right around eighty one or so dollars
per barrel they were sixty eight dollars when the war started,
So I think most people have kind of gotten used
(32:09):
to where gas prices are now. Certainly would always rather
have gas prices that are lower than they are. But
just FYI, we will keep you updated on Trump taking
those questions a couple of different things. We talked about
Abdul Lsied and everything that has been taking place with
him in Michigan as a Fox News poll had our
(32:32):
friend Mike Rodgers up four points in Michigan. Tomorrow is
the Florida primary. We talked about Oliver Larkin coming on
the program with us and not going very well for
him when he was quizzed about the elements of socialism.
But I did want to play this buck because the
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cultural battles continue in the WNBA.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
All of this is Elmwright bonkers.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
But there was a mother and a daughter Buck that
went to the Indiana Fever game against the Atlanta Dream
in Atlanta, and they were wearing the same kind of
shirt that I am wearing right now. Xxxy Athletics. This
is the only athletics company in the country. Think about
(33:23):
this Buck. We were talking about off air how broken
much of media is, particularly in the world of sports.
How crazy is it that there's only one sports apparel
company in the entire United States that will say men
and women are different and their sports should be separated.
Nike won't say that, Adidas won't say that. Any number
(33:47):
of other companies that are out there that are seeking
your dollars when it comes to buying athletic apparel. Again,
I'm an investor in this company. I appreciate the fact
that they're trying to create a capital list alternative, uh
for basic common sense. I'm wearing their shirt right now,
but buck think about how crazy this is. A mother
(34:09):
and a daughter wore this gear to and why would
they do that? Well, because Sophie Cunningham I've spoken out
and xxx Y has been very much in favor of
women in women's sports.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I can't believe this is real.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Riley Gaines, one of the spokespersons for the company Jennifer
Say's company. A mom and a daughter went to go
watch this game. They paid a lot of money for
courtside tickets, and they were told that they needed to
take their cover up their shirts in overtime of the game.
Listen to cut three.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
We were made to cover up our xx XLI shirts
at this game.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yes, your shirt.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
They gave us T shirts I promiring overtime and told
us we had to leave.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
You know, says for the girl cover our shirts. This
just happened. Where were you sitting third row floor? And
how much were your seats?
Speaker 5 (35:09):
And we did nothing like we were not We were
just sitting there.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
I didn't make signs. I wanted to make signs, but
I didn't. I did nothing. Okay, Buck, So I think
this is interesting.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Again, the w NBA recognizes that XX chromosomes is what
defines a woman. They can't tell you, however, what a
woman actually is for purposes of uh there uh in
terms of who's eligible to play. And they also had
a coach actually coach a game in a Protect Trans
(35:42):
Kids shirt. But this, this is the line that they
feel compelled to draw, that you can't even wear this gear.
I would say this is the gear that lots more
people need to be wearing the w NBA games.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
It's particularly gross. I might add to wear a Protect
Trans Kids shirt. That's a very clear reason for this.
They recognize that the more this is about adults who
have a delusion a mental health issue, the easier it
is for the public to say, we're not going to
indulge that. So what they want to do is create
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the belief that somebody, even if they've never thought they
were trands until adulthood, was somehow trans as a child.
That the trans thing isn't an ideology or a belief.
You were born with trans you just didn't know it
until you were thirty or forty or whatever it may be.
Because this is something that they've seen in other context,
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I think be a very successful line of argument, and
so there, but it doesn't hold up at all in
this context. And it also shows you that trans in
kids is essential.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
They will not.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I think the old detante on this issue for a
lot of people Clay was, look, what you do, what
you want to do as an adult. You live the
way you want to live. You know, as long as
you don't break the law, right, you're not hurting somebody.
You want to dress, you know, if you want to
walk around as a guy wearing a dress and you
want everyone to call you Sally and you're gonna wear
a feather bow everywhere, whatever, you know, that's that's your thing.
(37:16):
But now that's not that has been clear. That's not
enough it's you have to pretend that that person for
all intents and purposes is a woman, including sports. And
they have pushed very hard to extend this to kids,
and that's why they want to indoctrinate kids in this.
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They want that belief. Look, we're talking to the kids
stuff before. There's this Miss Rachel program which is very
very popular, and my son, for better or for worse,
a lot of you gonna say for worse, loves the
Miss Rachel programming. But there's there's a non binary character
in that that comes up a lot, clearly a non
binary and this is a this is a liberate effort,
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effort at a very young age right to expose somebody
to that.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I think that you're right, and I think that that
would characterize likely the majority of people that are listening
to us right now. The transagenda moved very rapidly from
all we want is the opportunity to live in a
way that we believe will make us happier to if
you don't acknowledge that we are the gender we tell
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you we are, will kill you. And Buck, I would
actually say, one of the biggest flaws that I have
seen on the right that has been self inflicted in
the last year, as we're coming up on the one
year anniversary of Charlie Kirk's assassination, instead of most of
the conversation being about how trans ideology motivated based on
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all the evidence, this crazy left wing leaning lunatic to
kill char Arley Kirk because of his criticism of the
trans agenda, instead of it being a conversation about that
which his own parents have testified under oath was the
(39:14):
driving force between his behind his decision to kill Charlie Kirk.
A lot of people have dove into left wing fever
dreams that somehow this is a Israel that killed Charlie Kirk,
or there was an exploding microphone, or somehow this is
a complicated murder trial and it's a conspiracy and we're
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all being lied to, when the reality is actually, I
would argue, far more dangerous and something that we should
all be concerned about, which is if you speak out
too aggressively against the trans agenda, they believe they are
compelled to kill you.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Well, unfortunately, people have been dupes in this, including some
on the right, in that they've they've effectively in the
public conversation absolved the left in America and the trans
madness in America of ideological responsibility for the Charlie Kirk
assassination and made it about some shadowy international conspiracy, specifically
(40:17):
involving Israel, and to I mean, there's so many reasons
why this is both stupid and counterproductive and immoral. So
all the it's stupid, it's counterproductive, and it's immoral. But
I would I would say, to think that Israel would
have a hand in something like this when it would
(40:38):
single handedly destroy the US relationship with Israel for all
time to come, based on what like, why would Israel
do this? People say, Oh, because Charlie was turning against Israel. No,
that's actually not even true. So those who know Charlie
have said that's not accurate. But even if it was accurate,
(40:59):
the risk involved in something like that to the relationship
between the US and Israel. I mean, Charlie was very
close with President Trump, with the whole President's family. It's
an insane idea. It's a crazy This is like what
I By the way, this is what I said about
Russia collusion from the beginning. I said, Oh, you're Donald Trump,
You're gonna let Vladimir Putin have compromand on You're gonna
have communications with with Vladimir Putin of Russia to steal
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the election for you to that makes no sense. Also,
why would you think that Russia would even be so
powerful as to be able to give you the US election?
The whole idea, The premise is crazy, is my point.
Put aside the evidence, the premise is insane of Russia collusion,
President's gonna do. He's gonna work with Russia to steal
the election, and then Putin could to destroy his presidency
(41:43):
at any moment in time. I mean, and also Donald
Trump doesn't never thought that he would need Russia.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
The whole thing made no sense.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
The premise of Israel involved in Charlie Kirk's asassination makes
no sense.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yes, because if any now you've got all these people
running around saying this thing, imagine if Zerreel actually was
willing to take this kind of a risk. It's it's
a crazy idea for which there's also zero evidence. But
here we are, and on the trans issue, it's it
has not nearly sunk in enough. I think with people
that this is this is an area where if you
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are on the right and you are willing to take
a stand on this, and you're willing to speak forcefully
about Trump. Ask talk to Matt Walsh about this, anybody
about the threats that he had. He's been very open
about this threat that he and his family have been
un drafter. He made the movie and he's been very
vocal on this one. Who are the craziest, most threatening people.
It's not the people that hate that just sort of
hate Trump generally. It's the it's the trans hardliners are
(42:39):
among the most, if not the most. They are the
Antifa of today for the Democrat Party. And instead of
talking about how dangerous that is to us as a
country and us as individuals, speaking on this, Clay it's
crazy conspiracy theory town.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
So I just think that.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
People need to see this for what it is. And
also the the more that people yell at me without
evidence or without argumentation, the more I just don't care
what they have to say. This is the other part
of it too. You're not going to bully someone like
me or someone like Clay into a belief or a
conclusion by calling names or saying stupid things. So I
(43:18):
think it's very important, very important to be willing to
say what It's true. The trans issue is a huge,
huge problem for us in this country because not only
is it propping up mental illness, it is a mental
illness of its own that you should be willing to
be violent in support of the trans ideology because of
the transgenocide that is going on, which is something else
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We're joined now by Paul Renner. He is running for
governor in Florida. And I'll just say right off the top, Paul,
why are you the right pick tomorrow? Why should Floridians
voting for the Republican nominee select you?
Speaker 6 (45:55):
Well, I help the governor build a free state of Florida,
and so if you have concerns or doubts about going back,
you don't have to because I was there building it.
It's my legacy too. And the governor just several days
ago came out in a press conference and veered off
the topic and said, you know, Paul rennerd would actually
make a really good governor. So he's not endorsed in
this race, but he's kind of made clear what his
choice will be and who he's going to vote for
(46:17):
to replace him in this election. And you know, you
guys mentioned Polymark a little while ago. Don't forget Francesca
Hong ninety five percent plus chance of winning in Wisconsin,
and she got smoked on election day. So I am
the fast galloping horse. There's campaigns that are nervous. We
had one that put out a hit piece on me today.
So somebody's worried, and we are confident we are the
(46:38):
fast galloping horse in this race, and we'll see what
happens tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
Well, there's certainly a huge opportunity for some political betting
and some arbitrage here. Paulk's I think you're you're at
one hundred to one right now. By Francesco is ninety
five to one. So I love the confidence, and that's
very cool. I am a Floridian, not just for tax purposes,
but I live here year round. I am a Floridian
(47:01):
and my vote is not yet cast, therefore it.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Is technically up for grabs. What would you do differently?
Speaker 3 (47:09):
I mean, I'll tell you this, Right, we had people
calling in they love Byron Donald, they love Jay Collins.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Why should people love Paul Renner as governor?
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Well, if you look at experience twenty years in the military, prosecutor,
business owner, speaker of the House, you look at results.
The governor of Saint Governor Desanta said that those two
years I led were unprecedented, the best two years in
Florida history. Those guys just don't have that kind of background.
There's kind of results to deliver for Floridians, and so
that's why people are coming to our campaign. That's why
(47:38):
you should support me tomorrow. I'm voting tomorrow as well.
We have a lot of undecided voters. But if you
just do your research on experience, results, on vision, where
we have our contract with Florida on affordability to get
rid of homestead property taxes, lower insurance rates, lower electric rates.
You know, you can't pass a platitude into law, but
you can pass plans. I am literally the only one
(48:00):
with a concrete plan to eliminate homestead property taxes, lower
those insurance rates and electric rates, and on many many
other topics. These other candidates see if they've announced this
thing or that, but nobody has that kind of comprehensive
one hundred day program that I do. No data centers,
stopping flowed cameras, leaning into health freedom, and the health
freedom movement has endorsed me as well. Police officers, the
(48:24):
FOP because of my public safety record. So there's all
kinds of reasons that we don't have time to cover,
but plenty of reasons. If you research that, you'll want
me as your next cover. And I just tell people,
the more you research, the more you'll want me.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Thankfully, Florida is not California. So we will know the
results of the Florida primary tomorrow evening. If you win,
certainly you'll be the nominee for Republicans. If you don't win,
will you campaign for whomever the nominee is.
Speaker 6 (48:52):
Well, look, zero chance. Let me just spell any doubts.
Zero chance. I'm ever going to support a Democrat, and
so I'm hopefully going to be campaigning all fall for myself.
But I'm not going to be supporting a Democrat ever,
So you don't have to worry about that. And I
think anybody that wins ought to have the support of
the other candidates.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
So there's some things that have been going very well
in Florida with the influx of people, the influx of
investment and capital. The Free State of Florida has gotten
a huge boost post COVID. What are the things that
you would want to do differently, Paul if you became
the governor. When I say differently, I should say, what
are the new focus areas you would bring to the job, right,
because status quo is great in a lot of ways,
(49:32):
but there's always ways to improve. How do you improve
something that's already as a state at least functioning as
well as my beloved Sunshine State.
Speaker 6 (49:42):
Well, it's getting after the fact that we are a
victim of our own success. That affordability piece. Again, I'm
the only one with very concrete plans and they're all
there on my website vote renter dot com. To eliminate
homestead property taxes. We've got benefits for small businesses and
renters as well. It's a balanced, strong plan. Same thing
with insurance and electric that's a umber one issue for voters,
and so we're on top of that in a very
(50:04):
concrete way. I've been very vocal about public corruption as
another separator. I've been very vocal about the red and
green thread of China and Islam in our state. And
we see that throughout Europe, we see that here in
our country where there's an incompatibility with those systems and ours.
And nobody's spoken with more force and steely eyed determination
(50:26):
that I have on those topics election integrity. Have mentioned
health freedom already, if you want to continue down that
path and not have people say, oh, that was a
COVID era thing. I was the only candidate that was
in office with Governor to Santas fighting the COVID lockdowns
and really branding the free state of Florida what it
is today. And so again, if people want the surest thing,
the closest thing, I'm a conservative lawyer like Desantas, we're
(50:50):
both naval officers. There's a lot of similarities philosophically and
in so many different ways. That's why the governor came
out and said, you know, this guy would be a
really good governor, has a great policy record, and praised
us for having the best two sessions speaker of any
time in Florida history. That's as close to a sure
thing as you're going to get from these candidates. And
so I'm looking for a victory tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
We're talking to Paul Renner. How much concerns should.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
There be that, as Buck just said, Buck lives in Florida,
I spend a lot of time in Florida as well,
that things are going so well after eight years of
Ron DeSantis that people might be inclined maybe more so
than they have been in the past to not be
as fired up politically. Are you concerned at all about that,
particularly in a midterm where we know the people with
(51:36):
broken brains who hate Trump are certainly going to be
energized as they always are to show up.
Speaker 6 (51:42):
You're absolutely right. I mean, it's always a problem in
an off year with the Republicans in office, that we're
going to have a fall off and enthusiasm, and you
see that in polling, you see it on feeling on
the ground. But look, we have to have a Republican nominee,
and I believe I'm right on the issues, whether it's affordability,
whether it's my opposition to having hyper skilled data centers
(52:04):
in our state, my opposition to the surveillance state, you know,
public corruption is another one I've spoken out with uniquely,
those issues are issues that as I've traveled all sixty
seven of the counties, which is unique for candidates as well,
that I'm best positioned to not see that drop off.
And we saw that in twenty two, you know, the
big red wave that never came. It came in one
state of the state that I helped the governor to
(52:27):
build in twenty twenty two we had a record turnout,
and so we've got to have a strong nominee who's
right on the issues to beat David Jolly come the fall.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
Paul Renner, we appreciate all the work you have done
to make Florida one of the greatest states in the
entire nation. And again, Florida primary tomorrow. Encourage everybody to
get out and vote. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 6 (52:47):
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Speaker 1 (52:49):
God bless you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
I got to give him credit, Buk he was on
the ball there, because it is true that Francesca Hong,
according to Polymarket and cal she was ninety five percent
likely to win the Wisconsin Democrat primary, and she ended
up losing by two or three thousand votes even though
she was a prohibitive favorite.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
Hillary Clinton was a ninety seven percent chance to win
in twenty sixteen against Donald Trump in according to the
New York Times analysis. So, but this would be mathematically, uh,
this would be pretty amazing if you let's just put
it amazing, like I said, Yeah, it'd be like the
Jets winning the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
For those of you who are poor Jets fans, they're
just saying, hey, we're listening on WR and we did what. Yeah,
you're just throwing elbows at Jets fans to love they
do that kind of contextualizes that. I think if even
the Jets fans listening right now would say, yeah, we're
not going to win the Super Bowl, Clay, but maybe
Geno Smith will have an incredible year and you will.
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To run through. Shall we hit this one?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Buck brought up lesbians and suparoos on Friday, and we
have been inundated with more comments than anything other than
the WNBA over the course of the summer, and I
appreciate Mary. Mary reached out and said, I'm sitting here
listening to your opinion that females owning subarus are lesbian.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Clay, you are so arrogant and stupid. Buck. I love you,
I love my hold on. That's the first half what
I didn't even bring it up. This is all Buck.
Why are you so mad at me? Mary?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I love my safe Subaru and that's the reason I
bought it. I've been a conservative all my life. I've
listened to your show since its inception. I'm done now.
You're an idiot, and why would I think anything you
say is relevant? So I do think this is interesting.
First of all, Mary, he loves Buck even though a.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Great taste, amazing taste.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Mary has listened to everything that we have said on
this show for five years, everything, and she was like,
I was all in and then you made fun of
lesbians driving subar Us and I can no longer listen
to the prore Like whatever opinions you have across the landscape.
What do you how many opinions do you think we
(01:26):
have shared on this program in five years between the
two of us, a lot tens of thousands.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Of This reminds me. This reminds me of when I
got I got. What is it when you throw like
a wobbly pass and the guy gets hit in the foot?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
You know what I mean from the like is it
the you get decked? You just let him over the
middle and they.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Just let him over the middle. That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yes, I got led over the middle here when I said,
I don't know that we have to celebrate somebody being
brave for not feeling like they want to finish an
athletic competition, like it's fine. And then all of a sudden,
it's like media eye Bill Marshall, I'm getting crushed everywhere.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I'm like, I didn't even I didn't think that was
like a controversial Biles for not continuing as a as
an Olympian.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I didn't even. I didn't even rip her.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
All I said was, I don't think you have to
celebrate it as brave, like it's fine if she doesn't
want to do it, but you know, you celebrate finishing
the competition as brave. I don't think you celebrate stepping
out of a competition as brave.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
But oh we all know.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Oh it's like, you know, special circumstance and we're talking
about a special person.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
So so yeah, you got you got ripped for the
Simone Biles. But it is funny to think five years
Mary was with us all sorts of thousands of controversial opinions,
thousands of them, and then it was hey, Clay made
fun of the fact that lesbians tend to drive super
rus which is actually true because they have directed their
(02:47):
marketing to it.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I don't even think that we weren't even we weren't
either making fun of of either of those. We're just
saying that this is a real thing, that this perception
that there was a popularity among the l of the
LGBTQ community, they happened to like sub brews. I will
also say that Mary, First, Mary, you have fantastic taste,
thank you. Second of all, she's just assuming because ninety
nine percent of the time, if the topic on this
(03:10):
program involves the word lesbians, Clay is probably the one
that has introduced.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
That subject matter.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It turns out this time turns out this time around,
I am the guilty party. But I would say this,
it was really funny to see all of the talkbacks
and everything from over the weekend because this is completely
all of our inbox. This is what all of you
are writing in about. You can tell me you want
me to talk about the Iran War. Buck put on
the CIA had talk about the Iran War, Clay put
on the legal hat, what's going on with the WNBA
(03:37):
getting sued. All of our stuff was about suber Us
and lesbians in our inbox all weekend. And it was
funny though, because it was overwhelmingly people saying, look, say
what you will about the Subaru and the demographics. That's
a great reliable car for the money. So many of
you were just you were doubling down on your Superus.
So we've probably sold a bunch of them. Here just
talking about how people love them so much. They don't care,
(03:59):
they don't care what the branding is. They just think
that they're great cars.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Okay, we've also got it is the eve of.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
The primary, and I was trying to reflect what was
the bet that I made with our friend down in Florida.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Light them up?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Linda, if you're not remembering, light them up, Linda. She
previously called previously called in when there was a controversy
surrounding whether we had double tapped or triple tapped alleged
drug dealers.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
In the in the ocean out in the.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Caribbean area, if I remember correctly, and they were hanging
on to boats, and we were talking about, hey, at
what point would you not go back and shoot them
again and light them up? Linda was just saying, Hey,
it doesn't it doesn't matter how many times.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Just smoke them. She is tough, so light them up.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Called in was it last week or the week before
last saying Byron Donald's was not going to be the
next governor of Florida, And she teed off on me.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Here is our bet.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
We don't want Byron Donald. He may be good in Washington,
but he's not good for governor of Florida.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Linda. What part of Florida are you in again? Orlando,
Second County?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Okay, light him up, Linda. I will put a I'll
put a meal on the line with you. I'll be
in Orlando at some point, probably in the next year
or two. I got kids, will be at Universal studios
or something. I will take you out for a steak dinner.
If Byron Donalds is not the governor of Florida, you
will have to call in. So I will take you
(05:35):
out for dinner. You will have to call in and
you will have to say to Buck, you know what, Buck,
You're new to the state. But I'm giving you the
light them up, Linda seal of approval because you better
deduced Florida voting patterns than I did longtime resident.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, he Buck, you need to do your homework on
Byron donald.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So wait, or did we make a bet or not?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Linda?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Are you make a bet? For sure?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
We'll make a bet.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So tomorrow is the primary. I looked up the poly
market at Odds this morning. Buck, Byron Donald's is all
of you should go vote. We're gonna talk with Paul
Renner later in the program. Byron Donalds is ninety nine
point five percent according to Polly Market and Calshi to
be the Republican nominee for governor in Florida. Now, I
(06:24):
don't know, we need to get light him up on
the on the line, is she gonna root for the
Democrat so that she can try to win her bet.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Can I just say, I don't know why I got
lit up by light him up? Linda? I just why
am I the Byron guy?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I mean, I like Byron, but I just thought it
was kind of funny because I live in Florida. I'm
catching the I'm catching the crossfire on this one. Also,
she's got to call in if it turns out that
Byron wins this thing. She's gonna say, you know what, Buck,
I should not. I was wrong to light you up.
I should win. Gentle on the air.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
This is the question though, that I think is going
to be out there. Hold on a sec. It was
a governor race. So is light him Up gonna to
now be on the side of the Democrat nominee, whoever
crazy person they put forward in order to try to
win a meal with me? Or is she going to
call in and say, you know what, Byron Donalds might
(07:12):
not have been my guy, but he's the nominee and
so I'm gonna stick by him.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I don't know what. I'm just.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Because this is fun for us because we have so
many different ways, all these different platforms coming together. We
have the live chat going with our live stream on YouTube,
which please tell your kids. Tell your grandkids. If they're
on the YouTube, this is how they can hang out
with they're on the YouTube.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
If they're on the Information super Highway, if they know
how to get on the internet.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
We got We've got a couple of things though. A
lot of Jay Collins fans in the chat right now.
I'm just gonna tell you Jake Collins, Jake Collins all
over the place. And then also one of our guys,
right's very funny. My daughter's boyfriend is a Special Forces soldier.
He drives a super rue. I laughed when he came
into our house.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Be careful.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I would just say, you know, he probably just recognizes
great value for the money for whe'll drive very durable, comfortable,
So you know they do they do not.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I'm just saying, so, there's a lot of j Collins people.
Lieutenant God, if you are a j Collins person, you
can right now get him at two hundred to one
to be the nominee in the state of Florida in
the Republican primary. Two hundred and one. That means you
put down a dollar, you get back two hundred. That
(08:28):
is incredible odds. So, I don't know the last time
I saw a two hundred and one political bet available
at this stage of something before the actual votes were cast.
So that's that's a that's not a vote of confidence
for us. Let me put, Let me put.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I like J Collins. I think J Collins is a
great guy. I just don't think he who has to
vote Florida. You're the one who has to vote. I
don't have to vote. I like everybody. I'm a fan
of ECT.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Do I have to tell people who I vote for
in a primary? I feel like? Is that private? I
don't I always tell? Did? Did?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I mean?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I'm trying to think about what the rules are here.
We don't endorse in a primary. But you know what,
I'm just gonna plead the fifth on this one for now.
I haven't voted yet. I got to go vote tomorrow,
so I'm planning on doing that. But a lot of
NFL training camps are underway. I went and looked. You
can get the New York Jets to win the Super
Bowl at one hundred to one right now. So Jay
(09:23):
Collins is twice as unlikely in the prediction markets to
be the next to win the Republican primary tomorrow as
the Jets and the my unfortunate. I'm a season ticket
holder of Titans, but the Jets, everybody knows are awful.
The Jets are twice as likely to win the Super
Bowl according to the prediction markets as Jay Collins is
(09:46):
to win the Republican primary for governor. I would also
say that, because of the strength in the Florida House,
in the Florida Legislature, for the state, the governor as
long as the governor and this is not a knock
on Byron or on Collins or on you know, any
of the other candidates, as long as the governor is
reasonably competent in the role and adheres to the most
(10:09):
basic DeSantis Ean principles, if you will, like continues on
a lot of this state is doing great.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
So that's it.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
This is this is a just come in and this
is a do no harm political situation for Florida.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
You don't have to be a superstar. This isn't Trump
draining the swamp.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Just just keep doing what we've got going here, make
some little adjustments here and there.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I'm gonna throw a grenade right now and blow up everything.
Is DeSantis not being able to run for re election
a sign that term limits often don't make sense because
DeSantis has done I think and a plus plus plus
whatever highest level grade you can.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Give best governed America, I'll just say it. I think
best Gosner in the United States right now?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Doesn't he deserve to be governor for basic as long
as he wants to be governor of Florida? If why
do we need termaments for governor?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I mean why why can Nancy Pelosi be in Congress
since World War One? And and he can't be governor
for another term? I understand there's different there's a state
law versus the federal but as a matter, but.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Just as a general As a general question, I think
DeSantis would easily win reelection probably would not even really
be challenged in the Republican Party were he eligible to
run again. Does it and I don't. There's a good
question for the team to look up. I think every
state has term limits on how long the governor can
(11:42):
be in office, and some of them are crazy, right
like in Virginia, Glenn Youngkin, you can't serve two consecutive terms.
So now we got the Abigail Spanberger insanity. When I
think if Glenn Youngkin had been able to continue to
run that he would have been the overall would have
(12:03):
been the overall winner in that race in twenty twenty five,
if I'm remembering correctly all the math, I think that's right.
Twenty twenty five is when he ran. I do think
that's an interesting question. Just on a more philosophical level.
We don't have any term limits at all for Senate
and House. I would argue that's more necessary and yet
(12:26):
for great governors, for executive of states that have huge
approval ratings, that have done amazing jobs. Regardless of who
you're voting for tomorrow, I think most people voting would
love to be able to keep Ron DeSantis in office
as governor.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I think a lot of them. And look, we'll see
how the voting comes down tomorrow. We also may even
be joined.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
By a.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Technical Florida gubernatorial candidate on the show who believes he's
going to have the most statistically improbable come from behind
victory maybe in the history of American goo notorial politics.
But you never know, so we'll be talking to him
in a little bit too. So we got all kinds
of things going on here, and that is a good thing.
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Speaker 3 (14:24):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck appreciate you all being
with us. And for those who are joining on the
YouTube live stream, let me just say Clay has started
something that I don't know how to put it into it,
and that is all of you writing your saddest children's
books in the live stream, which is bringing back every
(14:46):
time as a kid, you know, the beloved post doggres.
Oh my gosh, everyone's going through all the different you know,
when you're when the protagonists best friends.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You know, Oh, it's it's heart as left and right.
You guys, we got to get back to talking about super.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Let me let me hit you with this book because
I couldn't remember the name of this, and I just
will say, when you are reading books to uh, a
one and a half year old right now, as you
continue to do that, and many of the parents and
grandparents out there right now, UH have done this where
you put yourself to sleep sometimes instead of the kid
(15:25):
going to sleep, like you will read a book and
you basically will fall asleep. The number of times that
you may have come in and seen your spouse or
UH or you know, I just remember sometimes coming in
and like kids wide awake and my wife is out
or I'm out, and the kids wide awake. Uh, ready
for more books and more stories? And are you gonna
(15:47):
tell me about the about what is this the Giving Tree?
Is this the one that these are? Those are older books.
I'm just gonna tell everybody out there. And I've been
a bunch of bunch of you have experienced this. You
go through a bunch of books, and you were talking
about getting led over the middle and getting decked. I
had no idea what I was doing. I picked up
this book, Love You Forever, and it's a real kid's book.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I'm not talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Like Where the Red Fern Grows, which is a book
that you can read, or The Bridge to Tear a Bethea.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Those are kind of sad kids books that you might
read when you're eight or nine years old. This is
a book that you read to your kids. I don't
even know how it ended up in the pile of
books that we could read. I started reading this book,
by the way, I was published in nineteen eighty six
by a guy named Robert Munch, and I'm probably mispronouncing
(16:37):
his last name, m you nscch. It had me bawling
by the end of the kid's book book I had.
I had no idea. I was let over the middle,
no idea what I was reading. It is the saddest
children's book that you read to a kid that has
ever been written in the history of children's literature. I'm
(17:00):
telling you, if you have not read Love You Forever
you now, you might not, cause you're gonna be aware
of what you're stepping into.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
You're entering the thunderdome.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I had no idea what I was doing, no idea
what the plot of this thing was. It was just
in a pile for one of my kids. I was
bawling by the end of it, buck tears streaming down
my face.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
We have that in the speed stack.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Have you read it? I haven't yet. It's in the
speed stack. I'm a little no. You know you're gonna
be prepared. You're gonna put on your parental armor as
you begin this read. Many of you out there now
will know if you didn't already. I went in blind.
I just thought, this is like the Berenstein Bears. I
don't know what I'm stepping into. It's good night Moon.
(17:44):
I'm gonna be okay. I left that that book read
just like I had seen the sadness of life.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I mean, it was like it was unbelievable. I don't
even I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I guarantee you there are tons of parents out there
right now who are have experienced this exact thing. You
had no idea what you were stepping into. It's the
saddest children's book ever written in the history of the world.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Okay, well, all the happy things, I will say Carrie
or Carrie does most of it during the week, but
I will take over sometimes putting Speed to bed, putting
your reading your kid bedtime stories like one of the
greatest things I think in human experience.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I was really great if they will go to sleep.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Sometimes Speed is a little fussy about it.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
But all you can you confess what you said on
Thursday now because you were responsible for bedtime all by
yourself when you came on the show.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yeah, he was up every hour for the entire night
and had a mild fever and I was alone and
it was just Dad, which is the I'm the substitute teacher. Like,
let's be clear about that. When it comes to these things.
There are some things where I can step up, and
you know, ball throwing. Eventually probably teaching him how to
wrestle or you know, things like that. But when it
comes to preparation for the sixteen month old to get
(19:04):
into bed, I am definitely the I'm the Sioux chef.
I am not the executive chef. And Carrie was in
New York visiting family for my family for a couple
of days, and uh, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
It was a tough night, that's all I can tell you.
It's good.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
I got a few friends who are doctors that I'm
always able to send in real time now, and between
them and groc usually it just has to calm me
down because you know, your first kid. I don't know
if you had this, but the first kid, anything starts
to go even a little bit wrong, like he has
a tiny rash on his arm, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Like, what do I have to do?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
You know what, when they start to talk and can
tell you how they feel or what their issue is,
it is as a parent much better because when they're
not verbal yet, it's very very difficult. You feel stressed
about every little thing and you don't know how to
know even what the problem is.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I will say one of my favorite things I've discovered. Sorry,
we were going to talk politics, and I'll say we
will in a second, guys. But one of my favorite
things is when I give mommy slash wifey a kiss.
He thinks it's hysterical. If he sees the two of
us give a big kiss, he just starts laughing and laughing.
He thinks it's the best thing. So I got to
moving quickly.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
He will go into the gross because that that is
like I don't know what age that will be, but
dad kissing mom will become like an icky thing. It
reminds me of when my son was about four. We
had a Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue in the house and
he saw it four year old. He's now about to
(20:36):
be sixteen, but he was. He was just like, what
these girls they've got to put more clothes on.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Dad.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I just remember him being like, really that there was yeah,
that there was a magazine and all the girls hardly
had any clothes on. I think the phrase that he
said was they're barely covering their privates, which was very,
very funny for a little kid back then. All right,
what do you want to tell us about Abdul l Siya?
I was gonna say, let's do a hard turn into
(21:04):
Abdul l say Ed here. He is losing a little
bit of ground, I think right now because people are
paying more attention to his Michigan Senate race against Mike Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
We had Mike on to talk about this.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
This is Abdul al say Ed's take on the situation
and how Trump is involved.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
This has cut twelve hit it.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
He's going to turn me into the main character of
the midterms, which I'm totally cool with because my whole
argument about Mike Rodgers is he's always been an MPC.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
He is like an amalgam of somebody. He's a sock puppet. Yeah,
like it.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Really the question is who inserts themselves in him and
then controls his mouth?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
And uh, you know, Donald Trump can't help himself. So
part of me is like, come for me, bro see
what happens.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
First of all, he speaks very quickly, and that's so
you might have missed some of that, and that's not
unusual because he's speaking very fast.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
There.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
He said an NPC, which is a non playable character,
which I know what this is because from video game Lord,
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
The people, let's pause here for a minute, because I
think this is one of the evidence. Abdul l Sayad's
forty one. That's hyper on lawanguage. If you and I
came on and started talking about n PCs, ten percent
of this audience would have any idea what NPC stood for.
The people who decide elections in Michigan have no idea
(22:12):
what an NPC is. I do think that's significant, just
jumping in right off the top there in the way
that he is speaking. So he's also saying that Mike
Rogers is a sock puppet, and that's like a fake
account that someone creates that then can be used for things.
So that's what So he's using online terminology there that
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only people that are usually a certain age or involved
in online discourse are going to get what that stuff is.
But here's something that everybody's gonna get, Clay, this is
a flashback to February twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
We've mentioned this.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I don't think we have played this yet on the program,
but Abdul, I'll say talking about in one quote, he's
trashing manifest Destiny and Football Play thirteen.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
You think about all the wars that we fight abroad,
all of the sordid history of oppressing other people in
the name of this American idea right, whether it was
quote manifest destiny and destroying Native Americans, or it was
the Transatlantic slave trade, where you know folks who quote
founded this country on the backs of Native folks that
they destroyed, then captured people, enslaved them, and had them
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work their fields because they thought it was their right right,
and all of this, like a lot of these narratives
you kind of see echoed in the ethos of football.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Clay, how is the Transatlantic slave trade echoed in the
ethos of football?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
It isn't at all.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
And I think what this does represent, though, is there
is an inability of anyone in the Democrat Party to
escape connect everything in America with the fact that slavery
once existed. And I remember back in the day when
(24:07):
I went to GW buck in the late nineties, every
class it felt like that we took a GW which
had one of the largest Jewish populations in the any
history class which had one of the largest Jewish populations
in the country. It felt like every history class in
(24:28):
some way involved the Holocaust. And I even remember when
it was Black history, African American history. I was a
history major, so I took every possible history course. Basically,
the GW offered the inn paper was compare and contrast
(24:49):
which was worse the Holocaust or slavery in a black
history course, And so you're trying to analyze which one
the worst of the traumatic, awful experiences of minority groups.
And I just remember thinking, even back then, this is
(25:10):
kind of crazy that we would end up in this
sort of this sort of distilled argument. But it feels
like the Democrat Party, because they have made slavery existing
in the United States, which was the foundational premise of
the sixteen nineteen project, they are unable to escape connecting
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any and everything in their party to slavery having existed
at some point in time in the United States, and
this is what progressives demand. I also think Buck this
is evidence of Lsied recognizing that he didn't do well
with black voters, and so the way you convinced black
(25:53):
people to vote for you in the Democrat Party is
by telling them how awful they have it, how racist
the country is, is how unbelievable victims they are. And
I think this is one of the reasons that identity
politics is particularly pernicious and toxic because it basically teaches
young kids, Oh, you can't succeed because all the world
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is allied against you. But even other minority groups have
to tell you you're the ultimate victim. Just this is
going to be a huge part of this campaign.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
We'll think about in any context in America today, where
these victim narratives become extremely powerful politically, and they have
been for some time, it's because, on the one hand,
a victim narrative can absolve people today based on what
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happened a long time ago or historically of accountability and
decision making and everything. You know, it's not anything that
you could do differently if you are frustrated with your circumstance,
whatever that means, by the way, because this can include
very wealthy, very successful people. But if you are frustrated
with your circumstance with your life, there's a built in
(27:04):
excuse for or it was something else that happened before
you were even born, and therefore nothing is your fault.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Nothing could be different. But it also gives you a.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Hold on good people. You have a power over good
people who want to make things right. So it's a
very powerful tool. Right, Oh, I'm a victim because of
historical circumstance. Nothing today is my fault or could be changeable.
I'm a victim of the circumstances. And by the way,
if you're a good person, an ethical person, who would
of course have opposed those bad things that happened in
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the past, the only thing that you can do now
is give me what I want now, because that's what
being a good person requires. This is the way it
is deployed. I mean, it makes good people think I
have to do this, or ethical people think I have
to do this now to make up for what was
done in the past.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
It's very powerful, I would submit to you. The opposite
is also very powerful, which is in your own life.
Presume that you are the reason that everything happens good
or bad. Oh yeah, Because as soon as you take
personal responsibility for your own individual success or failure, and
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you don't have that safety net to point to someone
else and say they are the reason why I'm not succeeding,
that's when I have seen a lot of people unlock
different levels of success. It takes a lot of personal
accountability to accept that you, not someone else, not some
external factor, are the captain of your ship. You are
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responsible for whether you succeed or fail. But that's the
opposite of what democrats are selling. They are selling that
society and by the way, I think unfortunately a lot
of young people are buying into it. And what it
does buck is it destroys ambition, because if you think
you can't succeed because of external forces against you, it's
often true because you don't work as hard as you
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otherwise would have.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Also, as we are becoming a society where everyone is
expecting more and more material wealth in their data and
is experiencing that, whether people want to and that, we
could talk about how and why. The easiest way to
do this is compare yourself. Compare the food you eat,
the clothing you wear, the car you drive to somebody
(29:20):
in the ninetees to the richest person in America in
nineteen fifty. You are, in material terms, getting better healthcare,
eating better food, everything you know. That is wealth versus status,
which we talk about. Okay, I got to do speaking
of wealth. I gotta do some commerce here. But we
can continue this discussion because Clay, it also plays out
in the criminal justice realm. When things are good, people
don't remember how good they are, and the agitators can
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or you haven't done the right thing. We'll come back
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We're tracking a bunch of different stories. President Trump taking
reporter questions in the White House right now. We will
update you if any major news is coming out there.
Situation in Iran pretty much a stellemate. As things continue
(31:47):
to progress with the blockade, I will say that to
a large extent, the storylines have shifted in the context
of gas prices right around eighty one or so dollars
per barrel they were sixty eight dollars when the war started,
So I think most people have kind of gotten used
(32:09):
to where gas prices are now. Certainly would always rather
have gas prices that are lower than they are. But
just FYI, we will keep you updated on Trump taking
those questions a couple of different things. We talked about
Abdul Lsied and everything that has been taking place with
him in Michigan as a Fox News poll had our
(32:32):
friend Mike Rodgers up four points in Michigan. Tomorrow is
the Florida primary. We talked about Oliver Larkin coming on
the program with us and not going very well for
him when he was quizzed about the elements of socialism.
But I did want to play this buck because the
(32:54):
cultural battles continue in the WNBA.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
All of this is Elmwright bonkers.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
But there was a mother and a daughter Buck that
went to the Indiana Fever game against the Atlanta Dream
in Atlanta, and they were wearing the same kind of
shirt that I am wearing right now. Xxxy Athletics. This
is the only athletics company in the country. Think about
(33:23):
this Buck. We were talking about off air how broken
much of media is, particularly in the world of sports.
How crazy is it that there's only one sports apparel
company in the entire United States that will say men
and women are different and their sports should be separated.
Nike won't say that, Adidas won't say that. Any number
(33:47):
of other companies that are out there that are seeking
your dollars when it comes to buying athletic apparel. Again,
I'm an investor in this company. I appreciate the fact
that they're trying to create a capital list alternative, uh
for basic common sense. I'm wearing their shirt right now,
but buck think about how crazy this is. A mother
(34:09):
and a daughter wore this gear to and why would
they do that? Well, because Sophie Cunningham I've spoken out
and xxx Y has been very much in favor of
women in women's sports.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I can't believe this is real.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Riley Gaines, one of the spokespersons for the company Jennifer
Say's company. A mom and a daughter went to go
watch this game. They paid a lot of money for
courtside tickets, and they were told that they needed to
take their cover up their shirts in overtime of the game.
Listen to cut three.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
We were made to cover up our xx XLI shirts
at this game.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yes, your shirt.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
They gave us T shirts I promiring overtime and told
us we had to leave.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
You know, says for the girl cover our shirts. This
just happened. Where were you sitting third row floor? And
how much were your seats?
Speaker 5 (35:09):
And we did nothing like we were not We were
just sitting there.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
I didn't make signs. I wanted to make signs, but
I didn't. I did nothing. Okay, Buck, So I think
this is interesting.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Again, the w NBA recognizes that XX chromosomes is what
defines a woman. They can't tell you, however, what a
woman actually is for purposes of uh there uh in
terms of who's eligible to play. And they also had
a coach actually coach a game in a Protect Trans
(35:42):
Kids shirt. But this, this is the line that they
feel compelled to draw, that you can't even wear this gear.
I would say this is the gear that lots more
people need to be wearing the w NBA games.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
It's particularly gross. I might add to wear a Protect
Trans Kids shirt. That's a very clear reason for this.
They recognize that the more this is about adults who
have a delusion a mental health issue, the easier it
is for the public to say, we're not going to
indulge that. So what they want to do is create
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the belief that somebody, even if they've never thought they
were trands until adulthood, was somehow trans as a child.
That the trans thing isn't an ideology or a belief.
You were born with trans you just didn't know it
until you were thirty or forty or whatever it may be.
Because this is something that they've seen in other context,
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I think be a very successful line of argument, and
so there, but it doesn't hold up at all in
this context. And it also shows you that trans in
kids is essential.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
They will not.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I think the old detante on this issue for a
lot of people Clay was, look, what you do, what
you want to do as an adult. You live the
way you want to live. You know, as long as
you don't break the law, right, you're not hurting somebody.
You want to dress, you know, if you want to
walk around as a guy wearing a dress and you
want everyone to call you Sally and you're gonna wear
a feather bow everywhere, whatever, you know, that's that's your thing.
(37:16):
But now that's not that has been clear. That's not
enough it's you have to pretend that that person for
all intents and purposes is a woman, including sports. And
they have pushed very hard to extend this to kids,
and that's why they want to indoctrinate kids in this.
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They want that belief. Look, we're talking to the kids
stuff before. There's this Miss Rachel program which is very
very popular, and my son, for better or for worse,
a lot of you gonna say for worse, loves the
Miss Rachel programming. But there's there's a non binary character
in that that comes up a lot, clearly a non
binary and this is a this is a liberate effort,
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effort at a very young age right to expose somebody
to that.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I think that you're right, and I think that that
would characterize likely the majority of people that are listening
to us right now. The transagenda moved very rapidly from
all we want is the opportunity to live in a
way that we believe will make us happier to if
you don't acknowledge that we are the gender we tell
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you we are, will kill you. And Buck, I would
actually say, one of the biggest flaws that I have
seen on the right that has been self inflicted in
the last year, as we're coming up on the one
year anniversary of Charlie Kirk's assassination, instead of most of
the conversation being about how trans ideology motivated based on
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all the evidence, this crazy left wing leaning lunatic to
kill char Arley Kirk because of his criticism of the
trans agenda, instead of it being a conversation about that
which his own parents have testified under oath was the
(39:14):
driving force between his behind his decision to kill Charlie Kirk.
A lot of people have dove into left wing fever
dreams that somehow this is a Israel that killed Charlie Kirk,
or there was an exploding microphone, or somehow this is
a complicated murder trial and it's a conspiracy and we're
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all being lied to, when the reality is actually, I
would argue, far more dangerous and something that we should
all be concerned about, which is if you speak out
too aggressively against the trans agenda, they believe they are
compelled to kill you.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Well, unfortunately, people have been dupes in this, including some
on the right, in that they've they've effectively in the
public conversation absolved the left in America and the trans
madness in America of ideological responsibility for the Charlie Kirk
assassination and made it about some shadowy international conspiracy, specifically
(40:17):
involving Israel, and to I mean, there's so many reasons
why this is both stupid and counterproductive and immoral. So
all the it's stupid, it's counterproductive, and it's immoral. But
I would I would say, to think that Israel would
have a hand in something like this when it would
(40:38):
single handedly destroy the US relationship with Israel for all
time to come, based on what like, why would Israel
do this? People say, Oh, because Charlie was turning against Israel. No,
that's actually not even true. So those who know Charlie
have said that's not accurate. But even if it was accurate,
(40:59):
the risk involved in something like that to the relationship
between the US and Israel. I mean, Charlie was very
close with President Trump, with the whole President's family. It's
an insane idea. It's a crazy This is like what
I By the way, this is what I said about
Russia collusion from the beginning. I said, Oh, you're Donald Trump,
You're gonna let Vladimir Putin have compromand on You're gonna
have communications with with Vladimir Putin of Russia to steal
(41:22):
the election for you to that makes no sense. Also,
why would you think that Russia would even be so
powerful as to be able to give you the US election?
The whole idea, The premise is crazy, is my point.
Put aside the evidence, the premise is insane of Russia collusion,
President's gonna do. He's gonna work with Russia to steal
the election, and then Putin could to destroy his presidency
(41:43):
at any moment in time. I mean, and also Donald
Trump doesn't never thought that he would need Russia.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
The whole thing made no sense.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
The premise of Israel involved in Charlie Kirk's asassination makes
no sense.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yes, because if any now you've got all these people
running around saying this thing, imagine if Zerreel actually was
willing to take this kind of a risk. It's it's
a crazy idea for which there's also zero evidence. But
here we are, and on the trans issue, it's it
has not nearly sunk in enough. I think with people
that this is this is an area where if you
(42:16):
are on the right and you are willing to take
a stand on this, and you're willing to speak forcefully
about Trump. Ask talk to Matt Walsh about this, anybody
about the threats that he had. He's been very open
about this threat that he and his family have been
un drafter. He made the movie and he's been very
vocal on this one. Who are the craziest, most threatening people.
It's not the people that hate that just sort of
hate Trump generally. It's the it's the trans hardliners are
(42:39):
among the most, if not the most. They are the
Antifa of today for the Democrat Party. And instead of
talking about how dangerous that is to us as a
country and us as individuals, speaking on this, Clay it's
crazy conspiracy theory town.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
So I just think that.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
People need to see this for what it is. And
also the the more that people yell at me without
evidence or without argumentation, the more I just don't care
what they have to say. This is the other part
of it too. You're not going to bully someone like
me or someone like Clay into a belief or a
conclusion by calling names or saying stupid things. So I
(43:18):
think it's very important, very important to be willing to
say what It's true. The trans issue is a huge,
huge problem for us in this country because not only
is it propping up mental illness, it is a mental
illness of its own that you should be willing to
be violent in support of the trans ideology because of
the transgenocide that is going on, which is something else
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We're joined now by Paul Renner. He is running for
governor in Florida. And I'll just say right off the top, Paul,
why are you the right pick tomorrow? Why should Floridians
voting for the Republican nominee select you?
Speaker 6 (45:55):
Well, I help the governor build a free state of Florida,
and so if you have concerns or doubts about going back,
you don't have to because I was there building it.
It's my legacy too. And the governor just several days
ago came out in a press conference and veered off
the topic and said, you know, Paul rennerd would actually
make a really good governor. So he's not endorsed in
this race, but he's kind of made clear what his
choice will be and who he's going to vote for
(46:17):
to replace him in this election. And you know, you
guys mentioned Polymark a little while ago. Don't forget Francesca
Hong ninety five percent plus chance of winning in Wisconsin,
and she got smoked on election day. So I am
the fast galloping horse. There's campaigns that are nervous. We
had one that put out a hit piece on me today.
So somebody's worried, and we are confident we are the
(46:38):
fast galloping horse in this race, and we'll see what
happens tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
Well, there's certainly a huge opportunity for some political betting
and some arbitrage here. Paulk's I think you're you're at
one hundred to one right now. By Francesco is ninety
five to one. So I love the confidence, and that's
very cool. I am a Floridian, not just for tax purposes,
but I live here year round. I am a Floridian
(47:01):
and my vote is not yet cast, therefore it.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Is technically up for grabs. What would you do differently?
Speaker 3 (47:09):
I mean, I'll tell you this, Right, we had people
calling in they love Byron Donald, they love Jay Collins.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Why should people love Paul Renner as governor?
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Well, if you look at experience twenty years in the military, prosecutor,
business owner, speaker of the House, you look at results.
The governor of Saint Governor Desanta said that those two
years I led were unprecedented, the best two years in
Florida history. Those guys just don't have that kind of background.
There's kind of results to deliver for Floridians, and so
that's why people are coming to our campaign. That's why
(47:38):
you should support me tomorrow. I'm voting tomorrow as well.
We have a lot of undecided voters. But if you
just do your research on experience, results, on vision, where
we have our contract with Florida on affordability to get
rid of homestead property taxes, lower insurance rates, lower electric rates.
You know, you can't pass a platitude into law, but
you can pass plans. I am literally the only one
(48:00):
with a concrete plan to eliminate homestead property taxes, lower
those insurance rates and electric rates, and on many many
other topics. These other candidates see if they've announced this
thing or that, but nobody has that kind of comprehensive
one hundred day program that I do. No data centers,
stopping flowed cameras, leaning into health freedom, and the health
freedom movement has endorsed me as well. Police officers, the
(48:24):
FOP because of my public safety record. So there's all
kinds of reasons that we don't have time to cover,
but plenty of reasons. If you research that, you'll want
me as your next cover. And I just tell people,
the more you research, the more you'll want me.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Thankfully, Florida is not California. So we will know the
results of the Florida primary tomorrow evening. If you win,
certainly you'll be the nominee for Republicans. If you don't win,
will you campaign for whomever the nominee is.
Speaker 6 (48:52):
Well, look, zero chance. Let me just spell any doubts.
Zero chance. I'm ever going to support a Democrat, and
so I'm hopefully going to be campaigning all fall for myself.
But I'm not going to be supporting a Democrat ever,
So you don't have to worry about that. And I
think anybody that wins ought to have the support of
the other candidates.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
So there's some things that have been going very well
in Florida with the influx of people, the influx of
investment and capital. The Free State of Florida has gotten
a huge boost post COVID. What are the things that
you would want to do differently, Paul if you became
the governor. When I say differently, I should say, what
are the new focus areas you would bring to the job, right,
because status quo is great in a lot of ways,
(49:32):
but there's always ways to improve. How do you improve
something that's already as a state at least functioning as
well as my beloved Sunshine State.
Speaker 6 (49:42):
Well, it's getting after the fact that we are a
victim of our own success. That affordability piece. Again, I'm
the only one with very concrete plans and they're all
there on my website vote renter dot com. To eliminate
homestead property taxes. We've got benefits for small businesses and
renters as well. It's a balanced, strong plan. Same thing
with insurance and electric that's a umber one issue for voters,
and so we're on top of that in a very
(50:04):
concrete way. I've been very vocal about public corruption as
another separator. I've been very vocal about the red and
green thread of China and Islam in our state. And
we see that throughout Europe, we see that here in
our country where there's an incompatibility with those systems and ours.
And nobody's spoken with more force and steely eyed determination
(50:26):
that I have on those topics election integrity. Have mentioned
health freedom already, if you want to continue down that
path and not have people say, oh, that was a
COVID era thing. I was the only candidate that was
in office with Governor to Santas fighting the COVID lockdowns
and really branding the free state of Florida what it
is today. And so again, if people want the surest thing,
the closest thing, I'm a conservative lawyer like Desantas, we're
(50:50):
both naval officers. There's a lot of similarities philosophically and
in so many different ways. That's why the governor came
out and said, you know, this guy would be a
really good governor, has a great policy record, and praised
us for having the best two sessions speaker of any
time in Florida history. That's as close to a sure
thing as you're going to get from these candidates. And
so I'm looking for a victory tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
We're talking to Paul Renner. How much concerns should.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
There be that, as Buck just said, Buck lives in Florida,
I spend a lot of time in Florida as well,
that things are going so well after eight years of
Ron DeSantis that people might be inclined maybe more so
than they have been in the past to not be
as fired up politically. Are you concerned at all about that,
particularly in a midterm where we know the people with
(51:36):
broken brains who hate Trump are certainly going to be
energized as they always are to show up.
Speaker 6 (51:42):
You're absolutely right. I mean, it's always a problem in
an off year with the Republicans in office, that we're
going to have a fall off and enthusiasm, and you
see that in polling, you see it on feeling on
the ground. But look, we have to have a Republican nominee,
and I believe I'm right on the issues, whether it's affordability,
whether it's my opposition to having hyper skilled data centers
(52:04):
in our state, my opposition to the surveillance state, you know,
public corruption is another one I've spoken out with uniquely,
those issues are issues that as I've traveled all sixty
seven of the counties, which is unique for candidates as well,
that I'm best positioned to not see that drop off.
And we saw that in twenty two, you know, the
big red wave that never came. It came in one
state of the state that I helped the governor to
(52:27):
build in twenty twenty two we had a record turnout,
and so we've got to have a strong nominee who's
right on the issues to beat David Jolly come the fall.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
Paul Renner, we appreciate all the work you have done
to make Florida one of the greatest states in the
entire nation. And again, Florida primary tomorrow. Encourage everybody to
get out and vote. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 6 (52:47):
Not too late to cash your vets.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
God bless you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
I got to give him credit, Buk he was on
the ball there, because it is true that Francesca Hong,
according to Polymarket and cal she was ninety five percent
likely to win the Wisconsin Democrat primary, and she ended
up losing by two or three thousand votes even though
she was a prohibitive favorite.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
Hillary Clinton was a ninety seven percent chance to win
in twenty sixteen against Donald Trump in according to the
New York Times analysis. So, but this would be mathematically, uh,
this would be pretty amazing if you let's just put
it amazing, like I said, Yeah, it'd be like the
Jets winning the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
For those of you who are poor Jets fans, they're
just saying, hey, we're listening on WR and we did what. Yeah,
you're just throwing elbows at Jets fans to love they
do that kind of contextualizes that. I think if even
the Jets fans listening right now would say, yeah, we're
not going to win the Super Bowl, Clay, but maybe
Geno Smith will have an incredible year and you will.
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