Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Oct 1 2026

Clay Travis and Buck Sexton react to President Donald Trump’s Oval Office comments on diesel prices, Russia and Ukraine, and the state of the U.S. economy, including Trump’s argument that America is seeing major investment in factories and strong employment. Clay contends that the most effective Republican economic message is that the Biden administration left behind high inflation and a damaged economy that requires time to repair, while pointing to stock market performance, low unemployment, accelerating wage growth and stronger economic growth as reasons for optimism. The hosts acknowledge that many Americans remain frustrated by the cost of groceries, gasoline and other everyday expenses, and they debate how quickly improving economic indicators can translate into voters actually feeling better about their finances. They also discuss oil and gas prices amid conflict involving Iran and instability in the Middle East, as well as the impact of the Russia-Ukraine war on diesel supplies.

Clay and Buck give a major update on the attempted hijacking of a Flydubai flight traveling from Dubai to Tel Aviv, which was diverted to Saudi Arabia after the co-pilot allegedly attacked the captain and attempted to bring down the aircraft. Clay and Buck recount how the plane carrying 174 people went into a dramatic descent, passengers and crew fought their way into the cockpit, and a reserve flight crew ultimately landed the aircraft safely. They discuss reports that the co-pilot, an Omani national, had undergone Islamist radicalization and was suicidal, along with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's comments about the investigation. The hosts also play comments from President Donald Trump, who says investigators are examining whether the alleged attacker had connections to Iran and that information he was receiving suggested a possible link, while stopping short of a final conclusion. Clay and Buck examine the possibility that the timing of the attempted hijacking, shortly before the aircraft entered Israeli airspace, could indicate an intention to use the plane in a larger terrorist attack against Israel. They also discuss the suspension of Flydubai flights to Israel, whether accomplices or a broader terrorist network could have been involved, and a separate arrest of a dual Iranian-British citizen connected to an alleged terror plot near a U.S. military facility in England.

The guys analyze comments from Pete Hegseth about military culture, physical standards, DEI policies, grooming and his vision of a more traditional warrior ethos in the U.S. military. Clay and Buck particularly seize on Hegseth's reference to "beardos," wondering exactly what he means given the prevalence of beards among elite special operations personnel. The discussion evolves into a humorous but detailed history of military facial hair, stretching from the Crimean War and Civil War to World War I, Afghanistan and Iraq. Clay discusses how gas masks helped encourage clean-shaven military standards during World War I, while Buck points to the rugged appearance of modern special operators and earlier soldiers as examples of how beards have historically become associated with masculinity and military culture. They also mention Vice President JD Vance, the history of facial hair among American political leaders and the relationship between grooming standards, professionalism and public perceptions of trustworthiness.

Financial commentator Trish Regan joins for an extended discussion of the Trump economy, inflation, energy and consumer sentiment. Regan argues that today's inflation environment represents an improvement from the inflation surge during the Biden administration but says consumers remain acutely aware that prices are substantially higher than they were several years ago. She explains why lower inflation does not mean prices return to their previous levels and discusses the latest Personal Consumption Expenditures inflation reading, energy costs, gasoline prices and the movement of oil through the Strait of Hormuz. She and the hosts explore the challenge Republicans face in persuading voters that economic conditions are improving when some Americans have yet to experience those improvements personally. Regan also makes the case for continued economic policies centered on capitalism, innovation and private-sector growth while warning about the economic direction she believes Democrats would pursue.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in, everybody, to the Thursday edition of Clay and Buck.
First day of October, my friends. A lot to talk about.
A lot going on. We have more on the Dubai
Air terror attempt, which we spent a lot of yesterday's
show talking about because the news was just breaking. We

(00:21):
have more details. Everything we were talking about yesterday in
the analysis side of things looks like It is being
proven as more information comes out. We also had Trump
yesterday in the Oval Office. He was talking AI, diesel prices,
the economy in general. Clay, a really interesting speech from

(00:44):
Secretary of War Hegseth, where he laid out some new ideas,
new organization for within the military, particularly looking at tech, robotics.
and preparing for the weapons of the future. He also, though,
because he's Secretary of War, had some memorable lines that
the media is going to focus on. We can share
those with you. More data coming in, of course, for

(01:05):
the election. California gubernatorial debate is a thing that we
can also bring to you here. Steve Helton v. Javier, Clay.
Javier Becerra. Not to be confused with Professor Charles Xavier.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Javier.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Javier. And we'll discuss that. Oh, and then also it's
a news item and we could talk about it for sure.
I'm not sure even where it currently stands. But the
attempted attempted execution of a longtime death row inmate and

(01:42):
a female, the only female I believe on death row
was botched in Tennessee yesterday. which is, this brings up
a whole range of questions and issues, including why is
it that we continue to make something, if we're going
to do this, we should be able to do it

(02:03):
efficiently with 100% completion and exactly as planned. And they've
made a complete mess of this. So we can discuss
that a bit. And of course, there's always the Should
we have the death penalty? And that's a discussion that
will always be something we can go back and forth on. Clay,

(02:24):
I think first up, I was going to start with
with the Trump Oval Office comments, because I think he
handles some of the top issues right now that are
out there. Let's start with first of all, on the
on diesel issue. We mentioned this yesterday. The president is

(02:45):
staying on this because he realizes the cost of stuff
is a big issue in this election.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
People being able to pay their bills, credit card debts
going up. All that is important right now. It's important
in general, but it's particularly important in the. run up
to this election. Here he is talking about the diesel price.
This is cut eight.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Play it.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
You know, diesel is really hurt much more, not by
the Middle East, but by what's going on in Russia,
because those diesel refineries are being knocked out at a
pretty alarming rate. And if that didn't happen, we wouldn't
have a diesel problem. What's happened in Russia with Ukraine
has been really the biggest problem for diesel.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Clay, he's staying with this Russia-Ukraine is the bigger problem.
I don't, First of all, people are going to argue
and say, no, that's not, that the Middle East disruption
is the bigger disruption because Russia-Ukraine, if you look on
a chart, diesel price this last year, Russia-Ukraine's been at
war for a long time. I just would rather the

(03:47):
president talk about the great things in the economy right
now and focus on more of that macro picture. He
did some of that. This is cut 10. Listen to this, Clay,
and then please tell me what you think. Go for it.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
I think we had the most consequential presidency, maybe one
of the most ever. Maybe some people say the most consequential.
Look at what we're doing now. We're building plants and
factories all over the nation. We have record employment numbers.
We have more people working in the United States today
than at any point in the history of our country
by far. We are booming. You know, I use the
expression from the king of Saudi Arabia, but others said

(04:22):
almost the exact words. He said at the time, and
he's referring to a different time period, but at the time,
he said, sir... One year ago, again, he said it
a year ago, so we're talking about two years.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
I don't want you to get that wrong.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
But he said a year ago, one year ago, during
the Biden administration, you were a dead country. You were dead.
We never thought you had a chance. And now you
have the hottest country anywhere in the world.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I like when he talks about the general economy, Clay,
and what he's done for it. What do you think?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
I think the message if I were telling the president
exactly what I think the best message is, it is
that Biden drove the economy into the ditch. We had
to get the car out of the ditch. We had
to get the car retrofitted, fixed. And now we are
driving on the road and we're headed to a really

(05:11):
good place. I think that's actually what the data reflects. Now,
people are still angry because of the cost of goods.
cost of goods skyrocketed during Joe Biden. They actually have
come back immensely, but people don't feel it yet. Now,
the challenge here, as you well know, is oftentimes the

(05:33):
people that Trump is interacting with are involved in big business.
Big business is feeling it already. We're at record highs
in the stock market. The unemployment rate is very low.
Wage growth is accelerating. The overall growth rate of the
economy was just raised. And I think there's a decent

(05:54):
chance that by the end of the year, we're going
to be hitting at 3% or higher, which is transformative
level growth. And if I'm looking into the future for J.D. Vance,
who is the presumptive frontrunner right now, I think the
economy in 27 and 28, I think we're going to
have left behind the Biden doldrums. What I would say

(06:17):
is we are on the comeback trail right now. Things
are getting better. Do you want to put Democrats who
put us in this ditch in the first place, who
lit the economic fire, who are the arsonists back in control?
We're not perfect and we still have work to do,
but we have the right plans in place. Everything Democrats

(06:40):
favor will make things worse. That's tough because really what
he's asking and requiring is.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Patience, and nobody's patient.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Everybody wants everything fixed immediately, but I am telling you
that by the time we get into the spring and
summer of next year, I think a lot of people
out there are going to be frustrated. feeling the positive
changes that have been put in place. And the more
you can allow that positive change to happen and the
less you can derail it, the better things will be

(07:13):
in 27 and in 28. I think that's a good pitch.
I think it's an accurate pitch. And I think it's
one that can resonate with lots of people. Let me
also say this, Buck. I think Democrat arguments have peaked.
I am seeing increasingly as we enter into now November
signs that the Republican advertising campaigns are having an impact

(07:37):
and that trend lines are going to move back in
the direction. I really do believe this of Republicans. I
think you're starting to see it already. I think you
will start to see Democrats. This is a prediction. in
the next 10 days or so dial back the number
of States that they are spending money in. I think
they're going to fall behind in Texas. I think they

(07:57):
already kind of see that. I don't think they have
any chance of winning the Senate in Iowa or Kansas.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I think you will see it.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
And I think the battlegrounds are going to come right
back to where we expected them to be Georgia, North Carolina, Maine,
where I think Susan Collins is going to hold on
and Michigan with, with, the expected battlegrounds being there. And
I feel pretty good about where the Senate map is
looking just based on the trend lines of where we're headed.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
I feel like the great irony of talking about the
economy right now and Democrats, Republicans going into the midterms,
it reminds me of the Mamdani situation insofar as the
people whose primary concern is is one aspect of the
economy right now, which is price of gas, price of groceries,

(08:48):
some of those day-to-day cost of living items. They might
think to themselves, I hope this doesn't happen, but they
might think, we just need a change. So let's put
the other team in charge because I'm frustrated with this situation.
And the irony is the other team will make it worse.
Just like with Mamdani, how did Mamdani come into office

(09:10):
in New York City? There were a lot of things,
but the primary message, Clay, he had was the rent
is too. He's really like the rent is too damn
high guy. Do you all remember him? That was his
own party. The rent is too damn high. That was
his thing. Mamdani, the rent's higher than it's ever been.
And it's going to keep.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Record highs all time in New York City within a
few months of the policies he tried to put in place.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
And I'm going to tell you, people might say, oh,
it's only been a year.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
OK, I promise you it'll be it'll be at an
all time high or close to it next year. And
it's going to go up the year because the things
that he tries to do politically, philosophically actually exacerbate the problem.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
So we can agree on the problem. But the solutions
offered by Democrats make it worse. Oh, you don't like
a high price of high price of day to day living.
Democrats are the ones that spend us into oblivion.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Now, we have spent too much on the right as well,
but it's always Democrats who spend more, who want to
spend more. And, Clay, that's where inflation comes from, which
is why these prices have gone up the way that
they have and stayed high.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
And it's also why you're overtaxed and it's also why
you're overregulated, all these things. So I just there's this
part of me that feels this frustration that the people
who are frustrated are only, you know, it's like they're like, oh,
my gosh, you know, my foot's on fire. Give me
that can of gasoline that is voting for Democrats. Here's
the other thing, Buck. Democrats are going to be unable

(10:41):
to pass anything. This is the reality because of not
having control of the government. So what they're going to
do is going to be nonexistent. And then they're going
to argue that they know the solution in 2028 because
they can't actually make things better in 2027 and 2028.

(11:03):
I'm just telling you exactly how this is going to
play out. So if you are out there right now
and you are frustrated that things have not gotten better faster,
I understand. But your anger should be at Democrats for
digging such a hole that we had to get ourselves
out of. Again, when Joe Biden came into office, inflation

(11:24):
was one point nine percent. He took us immediately to
nine point one percent. And we now we're back in
the vicinity of three. And if if and when we
get the situation in Iran rectified, which is a long
term plan solution for a short term pain, then I

(11:45):
think you're going to see the price of oil and gas,
as we have said, already coming back down. I think
the fact that even The New York Times is now covering, oh, wait,
oil and gas is coming out of the Middle East
at same or similar rates. now at the end of
September than it ever has. Remember when they tried to
argue Iran has won the war and now Iran has

(12:06):
got inflation that we've never seen before. Their entire economy
is collapsing. They have no Air Force. They have no Navy.
They have no functional ability to do anything in the
Middle East. And I think what you're going to see
is all of these issues continue to move in a
positive direction. Now, the challenge is, Takes a long time

(12:28):
for oil and gas prices to come down. They go
up really fast, which we've talked about on this program before.
We'll open up, by the way, phone lines 800-282-2882. And
we got a bunch more stories, Buck. I did all
my reading because we talked about it a little bit
on this Cornell rape case. Buck, this is another social

(12:50):
media firestorm. that is getting many people have gotten just
a tiny pinprick of the actual data involved in this
case and the actual facts. I am really well versed
on this now. And my goodness, this is just another
example of a runaway story that isn't remotely reflective of

(13:14):
the truth.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
So we can tease. That's what you call a tease
in the business, Buck. I'm going to tee off on this.
As I think you should. In the meantime, if you're
sitting there on Thursday, and you're going to be staying
up for the awesome Atlanta Braves to take on the
hated Philadelphia Phillies tonight, you might be thinking to yourself,
or maybe you stayed up last night to watch the

(13:36):
Cubs play against the Padres, and you're a little bit
bleary-eyed this morning. You might be thinking to yourself, I
could use a little bit more energy in my life,
and that's what I've been focused on, because I'm worried
about my son being able to bench press more than me.

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Speaker 1 (14:45):
Just preset them on the iHeart app. Third hour, Clay
and Buck kicks off now. Thanks for being here, everybody
all around the place, all around the country, all around
the world. Speaking of around the world, there was the
attempted hijacking of that Dubai air flight. This was the
breaking news story that we were spending a lot of
time on yesterday. Just some updates on this situation right now.

(15:13):
Just a quick review, actually.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
First, you had fly Dubai from Dubai to Tel Aviv.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
That was the flight path. Diverted to Tabuk, Saudi Arabia.
And the co-pilot stabbed the captain, tried to crash the jet.
There were 174 people on board. the transponder sent a
7,700 general emergency and then a 7,500 unlawful interference hijacking

(15:44):
signal out there. Israeli fighters, Clay, were scrambled as the
plane was heading toward Israel. So that answers the question
as to would Israel be able to get the fighter
planes out? Yeah, they would. And passengers described the drop.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Which was, well, there are different reports on how much,
but I think it was something like 15,000 feet in
a minute or two, as extremely violent turbulence.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
There was screaming and a struggle at the cockpit door.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
And somehow there was either, Clay, there are reports a
knife or an axe, has been said, was used in
the cockpit by this terrorist to attack the other guy.
The wounded captain was bleeding on the floor, but managed
to critically... unlock the cockpit door that has been confirmed
then passengers and crew forced their way in the attacker

(16:35):
was trying to smash the panel for the plane so
that it would be unflyable and it would it would
crash they were able to restrain him reportedly he was
shouting uh kill me and then that reserve crew that
happened to be on that flight was able to land
the plane safely uh you've got five israelis there's almost
all israelis in the flight a handful of americans on

(16:57):
the flight But almost all Israelis in the flight, Clay,
five have been recommended by the Israeli president for the
highest civilian heroism award.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
The pilot who was.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Attacked remains hospitalized but is still fighting, is still alive
at least. There's some differences in the reporting on whether
he's stable or just gravely injured is how it has
been described from what I can see.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
The guy who attacked him, now we can get into
some of this, was an Omani... from the country of Oman.
He had worked for FlyDubai for eight months, currently being
questioned in Saudi Arabia, the U.S., Oman, Israel, all also
involved in that case, the questioning and everything else. And Clay...

(17:45):
This is what Netanyahu has said. I just want you
to hear this. We can get into some more of this.
This is cut to, listen to this.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
The attacker, the co-pilot who attacked the captain is now
being interrogated. But here's what we do know. First, we
know that he underwent Islamist radical indoctrination. That appears to
be something we're gathering from the information, his personal information.
We also know that after he was subdued, he calls
out to the air crew, kill me, kill me. All right.

(18:12):
So it's clear he was suicidal. That's not a question.
It was clear he was going to down that plane.
It's not clear, but it looks very likely that he
was going to down the plane and with all the
passengers in there. And if you couple that with the
what I just told you about the Islamist tendencies, that
radicalization that were found in his background, I think that'll

(18:32):
give us a pretty good clue. But again, I don't
make final conclusions yet, but that's the indications we have now.
It looks like he was head of band on bringing
that plane down.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Clay, we'll get to what Trump said about it, but
just your first reaction. And now, those are all confirmed
facts so far, what I read off. Evan agrees on that.
So we know this was a This was a close call.
You had almost 180 people that would have died. And perhaps,
to your point, if that door hadn't gotten kicked open

(19:04):
by that pilot as he was bleeding on that floor,
maybe the whole plane is used as a missile and
ends up in a fiery fuselage somewhere in central Tel
Aviv or who knows. Well, Trump just said en route
to Texas, and I just sent it to our team,

(19:26):
that he believes that Iran was also connected to this
based on what he has been told. So I'm going
to get that audio up shortly. And it's Trump as
he was about to get on a to get on
the helicopter a little bit earlier. So just FYI report.

(19:50):
asked him, has.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Anybody briefed you about whether or not the pilot of
the fly Dubai plane is linked to Iran? Trump said,
and again, we'll get this audio in a moment. This
was just in the last little bit. I would say
the answer based on what I'm hearing is yes.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Interesting. We knew that it was either it was Gaza
slash Iran, one or the other, maybe both. Now it
sounds like the igniting motive in this in this jihadist
terrorist mind might have been more the Iran stuff, which
obviously Israel plays a has played a very big role in.
So that would all track. Trump yesterday, Clay, at the

(20:33):
White House, gave his account of really the blow-by-blow of this.
And as only Trump can, he tells the story like
you're in the cockpit. Play cut one.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
So a plumber never flew a plane. Strong guy. Lift
him up. Throw him back. The crowd was— they knew they
were going to die shortly because of the G-forces, but
they were able to hold him because he was going crazy.
And he was crazy. And this plumber, never having flown
a plane— had the sense to lift a stick. And

(21:04):
you know, it's not like planes are different today. You
used to have a little steering wheel. Today, they fly differently.
And when asked why he did that, he said he
watches that show, Air Disasters. You know the show? It's
that craziest show. I never want to watch it because
I watch it. I don't like watching it because bad
things happen. But he said he watches it a lot.

(21:25):
And he learned from watching that show sort of how
to fly. I mean, you tell me. This is the
craziest thing. And then shortly thereafter, the pilots, you know,
were there in case they have emergency pilots on these planes.
and the security guys, if they were in the back
of the plane, they came up, they took over the plane.
I think it's the most amazing story.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Clay, it sounds like the hero on the scene here
might have temporarily just grabbed it. This is what the
president sees me saying, that this guy might have said,
we're in basically a death dive here. I got to
just turn the plane. I got to get this plane
altitude and actually touch the controls. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
No, it sounds like he yanked the control and started
us back up in the air. I mean, he may
have kept the plane from from what I read. And
I know there's many of you that are pilots out
there in this audience is that once the plane goes
below 10,000 feet, it's very hard to get it to
come back up.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Right.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
That actually came up in the there was a airplane
disaster incident. that had to do with frozen over pitot tubes,
I think they were called, and they couldn't get the
proper elevation reading clay, and the main pilot went on break,
and a junior pilot, and he kept hearing the alarm
and kept dipping the nose down, I'm sorry, pulling back,

(22:46):
pulling back, pulling back, and caused a full-on stall. And
even though the senior pilot obviously realized they were in
a stall, By the time he got there, they couldn't
bring him out, and the plane got obliterated over the Atlantic.
So that can't happen.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Because I think they were at 34,000 feet when the
17,000 descent occurred, and that kept it at around 17.
Can we just, for one quick second, Clay, I'm not
like a super nervous flyer. I mean, I've been in
some Blackhawks and Chinooks and things in scary places, and
that was interesting. But you know when the turbulence hits

(23:21):
and you grab your seat a little bit, And that's
a little bit of turbulence. And you look at the
flight attendant, the pilot, you're like, is everyone OK?

Speaker 1 (23:28):
OK, they're OK. I guess I'll be 15000 feet. Clay,
can you imagine?

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
No, it's terrifying. Absolutely terrifying.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
We have Trump answering that question.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
I believe it was asked by Peter Doocy. as he
was heading to.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Marine One a little bit earlier.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Here it is. Has anybody briefed.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
You about whether or not the guy, the pilot of
the fly-by plane, is linked to Iran?

Speaker 4 (23:53):
We're working on it right now. They're being very open
with us. I would say the answer, based.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
On what I'm hearing, is yes. But we're working on
it right now.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
So this guy might have been either put in there
by the IRGC or ratified.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Some other way, and then he tried to take down
the plane. Could have been, yeah. And now a little
bit hard.

Speaker 6 (24:15):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
I mean, he's not he's saying there from what I'm seeing,
it looks like that may be the case, but we're
going to keep looking at it. So I think, Clay,
to me, you know, you and I speak Trump pretty well.
We're pretty good Trump translators. There's some indicators, but it's
not the Iran piece is not 100 percent yet. I
think that's fair to say. So that may mean that

(24:36):
that Iran is part of a broader debate. interest that
he has, you know what I mean, from a rather
broader grievance set that he has, or they could have
something a lot meatier than that, but they need to
confirm it. So we'll see.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
So that is out there. And I should also mention
that they have arrested someone else. This, according to The Guardian,
I just saw this come across, that is a dual
Iranian and British citizen who associated with the proposed terror
attack or plan of a terror attack that was taking

(25:13):
place near an American base in England.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
So there are some of.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
These different threads that may or may not end up
being connected. We should also mention, Buck, they have suspended
all fly Dubai traffic to Israel, making you wonder, are
there other pilots that either were radicalized or Was this

(25:37):
a long-range sleeper cell operation, potentially, where they were trying
to do a 9-11-style attack? I still haven't heard a
lot of people talk about the fact, Buck, this guy
waited until soon before they were going into Israeli airspace
to make this move. They were several hours, in other words,
into the flight. If his goal was just to crash

(26:00):
the plane, which is a bad goal by itself, He
could have theoretically made this move earlier in the flight
and taken that plane down anywhere. The fact that he
made the move right before they were going into Israeli airspace,
to me, indicates that he may have been intending to
use this plane as a method to kill even more people.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
9-11 style.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
And this is where you get into the, of course,
it was not a coincidence that an attempted hijacking occurred
of a plane full of Israelis about.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
To land in Israel, right? There are thousands, tens of
thousands probably, I don't know, certainly thousands of flights all
over the world every day. There was clearly a terrorist, anti-Israel,
anti-West component of this, unless you're going to believe the
one in a million that this just happened to be
a guy who was having a bad day, which none

(26:51):
of us believed and clearly was not the case.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
But we'll continue to look for this. I am very
curious about what the investigation turns up, if there were
any co-conspirators involved. any remote control, external assistance in targeting,
or even just what they call spiritual sanctioning. Essentially, yes,
we bless this as a terrorist operation in the name
of Al Qaeda, in the name of ISIS, whatever it

(27:14):
may be. We could find all of that, but we
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Speaker 1 (29:17):
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We've got
a lot of calls coming in, a lot of talkbacks.
We're discussing all of the news of the day with you.
I want to remind you to check out our YouTube channel, please.
It is fantastic. The YouTube channel, it's a beautiful thing,
the YouTube channel, YouTube Clay and Buck. And something else
that we should spend a little bit of time on,

(29:39):
I think, Clay, that has come up on our news
read-in today. It is the speech yesterday given by our
Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth. And he said some very
interesting things. And he covered some issues of of real

(29:59):
policy that I think people should know about, which we
will get into. But, you know, some of the most
quoted part of it, of course, is Pete saying, this
is cut 11, Pete saying the following. Listen to this.
We are no longer the woke department or the weak department.
Simple translation of that. No fatties, no trannies, no beardos,

(30:23):
no weirdos, no wimps. No radicals. Just warriors. Just tough, ready,
committed troops. Okay.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
You and I can see this together and get exactly
what he's saying here. I understand the DEI stuff. When
he said, what is a, because the most, let's just say,
how do I put this? Well, the tier one operators
that I would see downrange and I would see them

(30:55):
coming in and out of the base or I would
see them on the ISR going to the objective clay.
They were very heavily bearded, obviously, particularly in Afghanistan, but
in Iraq, too. And so what is a beard? Oh,
is that a specific because I know Pete, Pete loves
spec ops. He loves all those guys. They're the pinnacle

(31:16):
of military infantry, elite infantry infantry. So but what is
a beard? I'm really like, what is a beard?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Oh, is that a specific kind of person with a
beard or just a person who is bearded?

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Great question. And we've talked about this before. For those
of you who are military history guys, my son tomorrow
is going to tour with his college class, the Battle
of Chickamauga down in the Chattanooga, Tennessee area. And I
was talking with him some about the Battle of Chickamauga
as military history nerds do in our free time. And

(31:51):
every major Civil War general had a beard, right? It
was the fashion statement. And most of the troops did
as well. And the only reason why the beard vanished,
we've talked about this on the program before, was when
everybody started having to put on gas masks during World
War I, there was a concern that it doesn't affix

(32:12):
tightly enough to your face if you have a beard.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
In other words.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Stonewall Jackson and and William Tecumseh Sherman, if they had
needed to get their gas masks on in World War One,
those beards would have gotten in the way. And so
to your point, the beard now has come back to
such ascendance that I believe J.D. Vance is the first
bearded president or vice president. In over 100 years. And

(32:40):
my argument, humbly, as a bearded man, would be, Buck,
that bearded men would actually have higher levels of testosterone
on average than non-bearded men. Crazy take, or would you
sign off on that as a rough approximation?

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I got to be careful, because I got a patchy beard.
So I don't want to start casting beard aspersions one
way or the other.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
I am pro-beard, as in not gay men with fake wives,
but pro-beard.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Important distinction. Pro-beard. There might be some Democrats listening. Pro-beard
being the facial hair. Also, the rise of Gillette as

(33:33):
an American corporation and using the shaved– the GI were clean-shaven.
I think it's also– the grooming standard is also about
cleanliness and, you know, you're in the trench, you're in Guadalcanal,
wherever you are, they wanted people to be clean-shaven for,
I guess, lice and things like that. But interestingly enough, Clay, the–
because you're right, Civil War-era America, peak beard, peak beard.

(33:59):
And I did– this is– I did a quick– history
of this. The trend, though, toward this started really in
the Crimean War, where British and allied soldiers grew beards
because of the harsh field conditions. And when they returned home,
the rugged look was celebrated as the pinnacle of masculinity.

(34:23):
Then it made its way to America, of course, from
the Brits and our allies. But, Clay, I want to
point out, this is very much like what happened with
Afghanistan and Iraq, where operators, Tier 1 operators come back
looking all badass.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
They got the beard. They got the Oakleys on or whatever,
and they're coming back. Same idea. And also, as a
reaction in the 19th century to women's rights movements and industrialization,
men had beards as a sort of show of masculinity.
So that is why the 19th century was the set

(34:58):
in America. And in Europe was the century of the
male beard, the beard. Oh, I have to look up.
What is a beard? Oh, versus a, Ali says that
a beard. Oh, uh, producer Ali, according to chat GPT,
by the way, got to use grok chat. GPT is for, uh,
Not very masculine men. Beardo implies someone is overly invested

(35:21):
in their beard or has a stereotypical hipster look. I
just think Pete is very clean shaven. I think we
agree with Pete on a lot. I think he may
be anti-beard, just anti-beard on men. And this is now
a part of his statement. I've never seen him with

(35:41):
a beard. I don't think he's ever had a beard.
That's what I'm saying. Sean Parnell's got a beard. You know,
his right-hand man, Sean Parnell, and our buddy, he's got
a beard. So I don't know what's this anti-beard stuff
from Pete. We've got to talk about this. Can Pete
grow a beard? He can bench 300 pounds. He's very strong.
But you probably have some friends. I have some friends.

(36:05):
My own dad can't grow a beard. He doesn't have
enough facial hair. If he does, and there are a
lot of guys out there, they start trying to grow
the beard. And the guy who can't grow the beard
tends to be very anti-beard on men because he can't
grow the beard.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
So he's like, well, you look slovenly. What are you
doing with your life? Maybe Pete. You know what has
been very anti-beard for a long time? TV news. With
the exception of Wolf Blitzer, I can't think of any
big-time cable news anchor man who has had a beard.
Do you know why?

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Historically, it may have changed recently, historically bearded men were
seen as less trustworthy.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
So, yeah, 100 percent.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Now, it may have changed in the last 20 years,
but that's the reason why all politicians were clean shaven,
because the general public sees a clean shaven man as
a more trustworthy man than than not, which is why
I think the number of guys that have beards on
television is still relatively low. And I'll tell you, when

(37:13):
I interviewed for law jobs. When I was 2002, I've
had a beard now for 24 years, if my math
is right.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
When I was in law school.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
They told us, be clean-shaven for your interviews because you
will be judged against if you have a beard as
not being as trustworthy as guys who do not have beards.
It will, in other words, make it harder for you
to be hired. And now they're debating, Buck, have you
seen the latest controversy?

Speaker 4 (37:42):
About.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
I don't know if Producer Ali has seen this too,
that too many job interviewees... I've read this in the
Wall Street Journal and the New York Times now.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
It's a huge debate.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Are showing up with iced coffees for job interviews. And
people are like, what are you doing? This is a
job interview. How dare you walk in here with an
iced coffee? And they are saying that it is a
bad look. And there's a huge debate over should it
be an influence or not.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
So.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Look, my general position, I kept the beard, but I
thought about it a lot because if doing something that
isn't that important could cost you a job, shouldn't you
just do the thing, generally speaking, that would make it
more likely you would be hired?

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Without, obviously, names or situation to give away details, you've
hired and fired people for a long time now. I
have hired and fired some people, not as many or
as long as you have. Has anyone ever in the
hiring process... of applying for a job with you, done
something that was an idiosyncrasy, an eccentricity on the spot

(38:49):
that you were like, I don't think I could get
over that. Because I have one that wasn't me, but
it was somebody that I was working for, and I
was shocked to find out that. First interview, I got
asked what the vacation policy was. I don't think that's
that bad. Guys, am I alone on this?

Speaker 3 (39:07):
You can't ask about the vacation policy? Clay's a tough cookie.
In the first interview, when can I not work for you?
When will you pay me to do nothing? That's pretty funny.
I was like, this guy's gone. Just in my head,
I was like, why would you ask? And again, I
understand caring about the vacation policy. At the very first interview,

(39:30):
you're asking the guy who's running the company hey tell
me about your vacation policy i'll tell you that's just
not i'm like you're gone bud i worked for some
people in the government who were very old school and
like i said my cia not all cia offices you
Certainly a lot of people dress, you know, kind of
honestly dress like slobs, most of them, just being honest.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
But we had a you had to have basically jacket
and tie. You could take the tie off. But like
we sat there, you know, ready to go brief Congress
or whatever most of the days. But I worked in
government and somebody came by. It was actually one police plaza.
It was not Langley to pick up a like some
kind of a packet for their interview or something. I

(40:14):
forget exactly what it was. So he wasn't meeting anybody.
But he showed up to one police plaza and some
of the cops here, this might know what to say,
in shorts and sandals. And the guy in charge won't
say who it is, saw that and was like, you
do not show up to police headquarters in shorts and sandals.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Done.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Didn't tell him this, but just killed killed the guy's application,
like made sure that he wasn't going to join the team.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
I thought that was harsh.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
I thought that was tough, but he was very, he
was just like, you do not show up to a
serious place of work when you're representing. Now I'm wondering,
by the way, I bet a lot of our people
agree with that. I think it's very generational. The shorts thing,
you know, the shorts versus no, like, And remember, he
wasn't on duty. He wasn't working. He just came to

(41:02):
pick something up as a civilian, but he showed up
in shorts and I think sandals too. And they, and
they bagged him for that. At my, this, we could
probably do calls. Let's do this tomorrow. Like what you
have seen someone do. And you've been like, you're out.
That'd be really, it's certainly talk backs. I really want
to know what people, when I was a young lawyer

(41:23):
and I was practicing in the Caribbean to, in my
defense and, I would drive into work in– this is
funny that you mentioned the flip-flops. I would drive into
work in flip-flops and walk in. You could park underneath
the law firm, and then you could come up a
back staircase, and then I would go into the office,
and I had shoes that I would keep in the office.

(41:45):
A lot of women change shoes, but I was like,
I'll wear flip-flops to drive in. I don't want– whatever.
I'm in a Jeep Wrangler. I think it was what
I was driving. And one of the partners came and said, hey,
you're in a law firm. You can't wear flip-flops even
if you're coming up the back side.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
This is the Caribbean.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
Even if you're coming up the back side entrance where
the lawyers come in because a client might see you
in the waiting room and be like, why am I paying,
at that time, $ 200, $ 300 an hour for a lawyer
who's wearing flip-flops? So they were like, you need to
stop doing this. what you wear to the office versus

(42:27):
what you wear in the office.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
I think that's also fertile ground. I mean, like I
had a suit.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
A lot of lawyers keep suits, and we didn't have
to wear suits, but you keep a suit in the
event that you might get called in for a court
proceeding or whatever else. If you're the Caribbean, you need
a lawyer, don't you want him to kind of look
like he's Jimmy Buffett, Margaritaville? I didn't think it was
a big deal, but I'm just saying sometimes you can
be a knucklehead when you're 25 years old. Producer Allie
just texted that she was doing an interview with And

(42:52):
you said somebody walked in with an iced coffee and
everybody was like, what's going on? This is really, I
do think this is interesting, Buck, because the argument is
you're just too casual. If you're bringing in like your
own drink, you can't make it through an interview without

(43:14):
needing fluids.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
It's an interesting point.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
I wouldn't have thought about, honestly. Did he get the job, Allie?

Speaker 4 (43:21):
He did not.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
He did not.

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Wow.

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Getting the guillotine here. Is it you or is it me?
It's you.

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(44:37):
on YouTube and also the co-founder of the financial research
firm 76research. com. Trish, great to see you as always.

Speaker 6 (44:46):
It's good to see you too, Buck. Good to be
here with both of you.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
So I know you cover a lot of ground. And
so we're going to ask you about a whole range
of things, of course, from the news today. But I
did want to start right in the center of your wheelhouse,
if I could, with the economy, where Trump is, where
the Republicans are on their messaging right now about cost
of living, about cost of gas, employment, all that stuff.

(45:11):
How are we doing and how is it being expressed?
Do you have some comments, concerns or corrections for how
the GOP is pushing it all.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (45:22):
I mean, look, we're doing okay.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Right.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
And compared to where we were, but we're doing more
than okay, because we were looking at nearly 10% inflation
in a given month under Joe Biden. And so then
everybody in the media was like, when it went down
to 6% and when it was down to 5%, problem
is that's cumulative, right? So you're 10%, you're 6%, you're 5%.
And so fast forward to today, And we're looking at,

(45:45):
you know, decent inflation, you know, somewhere between two and
a half and three percent. We just got the PCE,
the personal consumption expenditure index in yesterday that came in
a lot lower than expected. And what it's showing is that, yeah,
you know, energy is kind of not great, right? Energy
prices are higher than they used to be. Gas prices
are higher, but that hasn't caught up with the rest

(46:06):
of the economy yet. And that's important because once it does,
then you're really off to the races and it's really
out of control. But I would just say, look, it's
not great in part because everybody remembers what it was
like when Donald Trump was there pre-2020. And then all
of a sudden Biden comes in and it's like a
runaway train, right?

Speaker 6 (46:24):
Inflation's out of control.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Well, we're never going to get back to to levels
that we saw, you know, before March of 2020, like
the genie's already out of the bottle and you don't
want deflation in the economy, but it still hurts. I mean,
every time I go to my local diner and I'm like, wait,
blueberry pancakes cost $ 16 now. Are you kidding me at
a diner? But that's sort of what happens, right? And

(46:45):
nobody's bringing it down to $ 12. Nobody's bringing it down
to $ 7. I'm like, I remember when it was $ 5. 95
and that was just a couple of years ago.

Speaker 6 (46:52):
And so it hurts. It's painful.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
And people have this you know, frustration, I think. But
the reality is it's not that bad. I mean, honestly,
considering what's going on with Iran, you would think it
would be so much worse. But that's another thing, by
the way, that I don't think the Democrats are counting on.
But we are actually getting oil out of the Strait
of Hormuz. Now, the blockade's working. And I think that

(47:15):
over the next couple of weeks, and it takes a
couple of weeks to catch up to the gas pumps,
you're going to start to see prices come down just
in time.

Speaker 6 (47:23):
Fortunately, for midterms. So hopefully that affects people's sentiment.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
But you've got a very negative storyline out there, and
it's being felt.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Trish, you and I share a love and obsession with
all of the media-related drama and stories, as Buck always
talks about on this program. I'm fascinated by the Warner Brothers,
Paramount Battle, Netflix, what's going on with its business overall.
So let's start with The judge signed off, I believe, yesterday,

(47:57):
officially dismissing the 12-state AG case that had been trying
to hold up. This merger is a full go, basically, now,
and expectations are it will close this week or next
week would be kind of my expectation, at some point
in the next 10 days or so. Tell this audience
why you think that's a big deal, and have you
found this entire story as compelling as I have?

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (48:22):
Clay, this is amazing. This is amazing news.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
On so many different levels, obviously from the sort of
new media standpoint, but also like on a cultural level
because don't forget, you know, we were being fed, I think,
a lot of woke garbage for years. It wasn't really working,
but it kind of just kept going, right? And Netflix
is a great example of that with some of the
stuff that they were putting on.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
Their content has really deteriorated. They were doing deals with
the Obamas, etc.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
You know, and there's just not a lot of reason
from my viewpoint to be watching Netflix right now. And
if you look at what's happening in the market, I
was just this morning actually reading an analyst report. It's
actually here on my desk as we speak.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
This is.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Just out from Wells Fargo. I mean, they're downgrading the stock.
It's now underweight, which is a fancy way of selling things.
Saying sell, sell, sell this company. But it's down like 24%
this year. I think it's down 41% over the last
12 months.

Speaker 6 (49:17):
Because, by the way, Netflix wanted, remember? to get Warner
Brothers Discovery, and they didn't. And it was Paramount.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Now, Paramount Skydance, listen, David Ellison is, in my estimation,
pretty incredible in that he was able, number one, to
accomplish this. But number two, I think he's thinking about
entertainment in very, very new ways. much like Elon was
thinking about entertainment and news when he came to X
in terms of giving sort of more power to the people.

(49:44):
Stay with me for a second, because I actually think
this is going in fascinating directions. And I think we're
going to, at some point in the near future, maybe
in the next 10 years or so, you're going to
be able to like basically say, hey, This would be me.
I want to watch a romantic comedy tonight. And I
would like it to be an actor like so-and-so. And
you might even be able to pick the ending, Clay.

(50:06):
I mean, that's how remarkable all of this is. And
when you factor in AI and what that is going
to mean for the entertainment industry, I think about it
with the news industry, because you've got CNN now that
is being owned by Paramount Skydance. I mean, this is
going to be amazing because What if you said, if
you've ever been to the Apple store and you've tried
on those virtual reality goggles, what if you said, hey,

(50:28):
I can take somebody out to the front lines of
the hurricane or the convention or right into the Oval
Office or to the sporting event, right?

Speaker 6 (50:37):
I mean, if you can take somebody right.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
There, that is amazing. And that is the future of media.
It is going to change in ways we can't even imagine.
But David is thinking about that.

Speaker 6 (50:49):
He understands that. He gets that.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
And he's thinking about the technology behind it. And so
that's why it was important for him to have, for example, CNN,
which is a great footprint, right?

Speaker 6 (50:59):
It's all over the world. But that sort of 1980s
model of having your.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Bureaus everywhere is over because you're going to have everyday
citizen journalists contributing everywhere. to news in ways that we're
starting to see, for example, on X. I think it's
so exciting, but it's massive change, and the industry's going
to be just upside down. And Netflix, unless they change,
and maybe they will, but unless they change fast, they're

(51:26):
going to go the way of, I was laughing, it's
going to be blockbuster.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Speaking to Trish Regan, and you should check out her
show on YouTube, which is doing phenomenally well and has
been for years. Huge, huge, you could say Trish Regan
on YouTube, huge show. And I wanted to ask you,
if you were tasked with making the pitch, if you will,
at this last stage here to voters about why they're

(51:53):
better off, you know, drawing upon the numbers, the reality,
the truth, despite the price of diesel, despite the price
of gas, which we do hear a lot of people
annoyed about, upset about. What is your economic pitch for
the great things that Trump has accomplished thus far and
why they need more time to keep going and finish

(52:15):
the course?

Speaker 6 (52:18):
Well, I mean, I think the alternative is pretty bleak, right?

Speaker 2 (52:21):
But I mean, we're looking at socialism, which I'm just
going to call is, you know, their version of it's
really kind of communism, frankly. I mean, when you look
at what they're they're pitching. And so that's really dangerous.
I think about all the bad stuff that could have happened.

Speaker 6 (52:33):
I mean, we were already.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
In runaway train, you know, inflation season between Biden, Powell,
and what he did with the money printing. And then,
of course, Chuck and Nancy. I mean, so that was
just a triple whammy, right? They were just at it.
And that is, frankly, what we're dealing with in terms
of the hangover with inflation combined with Iran. But imagine
if Kamala was running AI right now and all the

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productivity gains that are coming in the door, like that
would be out the window because you'd have, DEI in
charge of AI.

Speaker 6 (53:04):
I mean, you would have a stifling of innovation. They
would be picking the winners and the losers.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
And you can be pretty sure that half the country,
if you happen to be conservative, would be on the
losing end of that. And so, you know, it's really
kind of, to me, it's a very basic thing. You
have an opportunity to continue this wonderful story that is America, right?
And the capitalism that has made us the envy of

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the world the greatest economy that the world has ever seen.
Or you have the alternative, which is basically every third
world country that everybody's trying to get the heck away from.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
Right.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
So it's not even that hard a decision to me.
But what people need to know about is they got
to get out and vote like you can't just sit
home and be like, you know, I really don't like the.

Speaker 6 (53:48):
Cost of gas right now. So I'm not that motivated
to vote.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
You need to actually go out and vote because the
alternative is the other team gets in. And that's going
to be a doozy. I mean, if they were to
take the Senate, I'm with Clay. Like, I don't think
that they're going to get that far. But if they were,
I mean, what are we looking at?

Speaker 6 (54:05):
Impeachment?

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Like, it's actually really scary where.

Speaker 6 (54:09):
This could go.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Trish, for people out there, and there's some in this audience,
and Buck and I have talked about it a lot,
that are apprehensive, nervous about AI, that are apprehensive, nervous
about data centers. I love your enthusiasm for American capitalism.
What would you tell people out there from your perspective?
What Buck and I have been hammering on is I

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actually think this is a great example of China taking
advantage of our media and our marketplaces because they're building
productivity and capacity for AI and data centers like crazy,
but they're playing on the fears of Americans to try
to limit us doing it. What would your pitch be
to our audience as it comes to those two issues

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right now?

Speaker 6 (54:53):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
I mean, this is it's a matter of national security
as well as economic security. You have to own this space.
There's no if and or but about it. I mean,
this is effectively a race to the future. And whoever
wins this one is going to be in charge of
the world. It's why actually energy ties into this as well,
as you guys know.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
Right.

Speaker 6 (55:10):
Because you're going to need a lot in terms of
the grid, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
You're going to be needing a lot of energy to
power all this AI to power the future. And so
you want to lock all of that down. I mean,
this is a very, very sort of momentous time. We
are on the front lines of history and whoever wins
this one is going to dominate the future for decades
and hundreds of years to come. I mean, this is
kind of a moment in time when you can't mess around.

Speaker 6 (55:36):
And of course, China wants us to be fearful.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Of course, China wants us to get political and say, oh,
no way, no way. Now, I'm not saying we go
crazy with this stuff and don't have any kind of
mechanisms in place. And look, I think the president just
meeting with all these AI executives, it's really important. He
understands the nuances and the dangers, but he also understands
and he's not giving up on this.

Speaker 6 (55:58):
Not one bit like he is not given an inch.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
He understands that this is a race that's do or
die because you can get scared.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
You can get fearful.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
You can say we're going to control it and we're
going to just turn it all over to China. And
then you can just kiss America goodbye. So we can't
we just can't allow that.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Trish Regan. Great to see you. Thanks so much for
being here. Come back soon.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
All right.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
That was fun. We like hanging out.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
Anytime.

Speaker 6 (56:25):
And likewise on my program.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
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