David Rutherford Show: “The Biggest Election Scandal in U.S. History” — Ralph Pezzullo Reveals the Global Conspiracy Undermining America - The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The most significant story in US history, all encapsulated in
this book. Mister Ralph Pazzulo today on the David Rutherford Show,

(00:21):
Ladies and Gentlemen, one of the things that you have
to begin to come to grips with is that our
country is in peril. We are under attack from a
collective conspiracy that expands the entire globe. And my guest
today is a man that had the courage to partner

(00:45):
with the two men that have conducted the most intense
international investigation around the world to bring their story to
life in a way that you and I can understand
how catastrophic the situation is that we face within our

(01:06):
election systems, not just in America but worldwide. So, without
further ado, it's my honor to welcome New York Times
bestselling author of over thirty books and one of my
favorite books of all time, a book called Jawbreaker, Gary Bernstein,
who ran the invasion in Afghanistan. Mister Ralph Pazzulo, Sir,

(01:28):
thank you so much for coming on the show today.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
David. It's a pleasure, and thank you for your service
to our country, and it's really an honor to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I appreciate that you know, what's interesting is we you know,
we all hit a point. I think over a period
of time, the more we're aware of just how nefarious
the world is, that, you know, we begin to realize, Wow,

(01:58):
there are are are organizations, countries, political leaders, international criminal
consortiums that are participating in all different types of things
that not even are just illegal, but are outright scandalous
and treasonous. But this one, in my opinion, is the

(02:22):
biggest story in American history. This is something that if
we don't get our hands around the country's over, could
be the next election, could be the one after that.
So could you first tell the audience how this story
fell into your lap and what compelled you to want

(02:44):
to do it?

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Okay, Well, as you mentioned, David, I've known Gary Bernston
for twenty years and he is just an amazing person,
probably the greatest CIA operations officer of our generation, you know,
a very thoughtful, dynamic person. Right. So you know, Gary

(03:06):
and I talk over the years and visit one another
when we're nearby. But this came through his partner. So
last I guess it was May or April or May.
I had a friend from the DEA who was I
live in Los Angeles and he was visiting and he said,
I want you to meet a friend of mine for lunch.

(03:27):
He is the greatest source that the DEA has ever had.
He has helped us solved so many drug cases. The
guy is a genius. I said, sure, I'd love to
meet him. So we go to lunch. The gentleman is
named Martin Rodel He is Venezuelan by birth, and we
start talking. We kind of hit it off right away,

(03:49):
and I said, what are you working on, Martin? And
he goes, election fraud. For three years, I've been investigating
the election fraud, And of course my ears perk up
because there's a lot of Americans like I'm sure you
as well, David. You know, I had questions about some
of our recent elections. It just seemed off to me.
And he said, yeah, what are you doing tomorrow? I

(04:11):
want to show you a four hour presentation that we've
put together to show members of Congress. And I said, okay,
I cleared my schedule. I met him and he took
me through like a four hour power point just packed
with evidence, and at the end of it, I was,
of course, I was stunned. I was just like, you know,

(04:32):
Oh my god, our country is under attack by by
foreign enemies and we're not even aware of it. And
so I said to Martinez, said, well, what can I
do to help you? And he said, we want you
to write a book. I didn't know that Gary was
involved at that point. We walked outside and and Martin

(04:55):
gave made a phone call and he said, oh, Gary
says hello, and I said, Gary Burnson and he goes, yeah,
I'm working. He's my business partner. And I'm like, okay,
so Gary's involved in this, and he said yes. And
of course that just you know, solidified the fact that
you know, I have to I have to do this,

(05:15):
and then we you know, I started. They showed me
the evidence and I started writing the book. The intention
was that the book would come out before the election
of twenty twenty four. I found a publisher who said
he would do it. Martin went to New York and
showed him all the evidence, and the publisher was like, oh, yeah,

(05:37):
we got to get this out before the election. I
wrote the book and basically, I don't know, six weeks
two months, while working every day, you know, trying to
meet the deadline and feeling the importance of it, right,
and then everything was ready, copy edited, cover, publicity, et cetera.

(05:58):
And then the publish calls me one day and says,
we got to shut this down. And why Gary and
I met with him, met with his lawyer. It just
didn't you know, they didn't really have a solid reason.
They're worried. They're saying we're going to get sued, at
which point at that point Gary and I had already

(06:20):
done a series of videos. We weren't sued. So basically
the book was held up for a year until I
could get out of the contract and I had to
publish it myself and it came out in September. That's
the book that you've got in front of you.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
What for me and I obviously with the news cycle
what it is today, which I think is intentional in
so many different ways. Right, if you flood this, if
you flood the system, you know, nothing stays in the
consciousness of Americans for more than you know what the
amount of times it takes the scroll up or scroll down.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
And so.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
But for me, so I first saw it when I
saw the interview you all recently did with Laura Logan
and I had met Laura once a long time ago.
I had interviewed her when I used to do a
part podcast with Marcus Latrell from The Loan Survivor, and
really that was a moment where I really kind of
came to appreciate the intensity with which she approached journalism.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
And so I saw it.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
And then obviously Emeral Robinson is covering in depth a
lot of all of this as well too. So I
sat through the interview and I was my mouth was
just a gape. I literally, like, I think within the first,
you know, ten minutes of Gary talking. I had ordered
it on Amazon and I was excited to read it
and I probably went I think I went through it

(07:52):
in like three and a.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Half days, and.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
I think, what is so brilliant about your writing and
I found that very similar when you did Jawbreaker as well,
is just how proficient you lay it out to where
it's understandable because the technical the technicality of the corporate
structures of Smartmatic or Dominion, or where the in the

(08:20):
how it relates to different electoral organizations within Venezuela. It's
a very complicated landscape, yes, but what you do is
you synthesize is and you drop it in such an
easy way to understand that it made complete sense, like
you know, because obviously I too had had found the abnormalities.

(08:43):
First off, I got locked out of social media about
a month and a half before the twenty twenty election,
along with many many other GWATT influencers and podcasters. They
throttled all of us. They shut us all down just
to us so we wouldn't have a voice to you know,
get get the public going. And so in when it happened,

(09:06):
I mean, just what the the f curve alone on?
It was so profound and everything else, Like you knew
something was off, but they were They had such a
what an army of censorship ready to employ as they
did when you guys, you came into this, they had

(09:26):
already been going at this for several years. What what
what did they say to you? Like where you're what
were you apprehensive about and partnering with them? Was there
anything that you were worried about by joining them in
this endeavor?

Speaker 2 (09:46):
You know, as soon as I saw the presentation, as
soon as I saw the evidence, uh, you know, it
just struck me as true. It was it was I
felt like for our country that we have been attacked
this way, And I just felt, look, I have to
do this, you know, and I just have faith in

(10:09):
God and the truth. I've always been, you know, that's
my that's my guide is the truth. Just find the truth.
I try to stay non political, open minded, and I
just figured, okay, this is the truth. I can't you know,
I don't see any you know. Of course, I checked
that everything out that I could myself and spoke to

(10:31):
other people, and you know, and I know Gary, and
I felt like these guys have you know, they're real patriots.
They they they you know, Gary has been willing to
put his life down for the country, and uh, you know,
we are under attack and the American people need to
be made aware of this. And I knew already that,

(10:54):
you know, Gary had told me that they had already
been to you know, FBI members of Congress and basically
been told to, you know, shut up and go away.
I kind of understood that this would be uh, you know,
kind of a dangerous, interesting ride, but I just felt like, hey,
what's more important. You know, I love this country and

(11:19):
this is where you know, I put my stake down here,
so let's let's do it. Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Amen.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I love that Ralph Like, that's the thing, man, I
think there's so many people out there that are that
are out there trying to become whether you know they're
freelance journalists or new citizen journalists or you know, the
influence that James O'Keefe is having around the country, and
so people are compelled because they realize just how corrupt

(11:45):
all the systems are. But it's like to have the
expertise of you and Gary and Martin it really I
think it's such a powerful group and I really appreciate
you wanting to having the courage to do this.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
So let's le's get into this all right. So who
are the main players as.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
You begin down the road in the book that people
need to be aware of, Where does this plot originate?
And then how does it begin to morph into action itself?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Okay, well, it really begins with the election of Hugo
Javis in Venezuela in nineteen ninety eight. He was elected
in nineteen ninety ninety, took power, and Hugo Chaves was
a charismatic military officer in a country of tremendous wealth
and natural resources. Venezuela as the highest oil reserves of

(12:45):
any country in the world. And because of his sort
of psychological makeup, he was the product of illegitimate of
an affair that his mother had outside of the the marriage,
and so his father always rejected him. And Fidel Castro

(13:08):
formed a kind of a became a father figure for
Hugo Javis and cultivated that relationship because Castro saw if
he could partner with Venezuela with their wealth, you know,
he could really this could really give him a boost
to sort of expand expanding his sort of socialist government

(13:31):
agenda throughout Latin America. And it really started in two
thousand and four. The Venezuelan has faced a referendum and
Hugo Javis was going to lose. The polls show that
he was way behind, and Castro and his intelligence service
were monitoring everything and they went to Hugo Chavis and

(13:54):
they said, hey, you're going to lose and you're going
to be out of power, so you got to come
up with something, and Yugo Javis was sort of like,
you know, help me, like what do I do? And
they came up with the idea of, well, there's this
new technology that they use in electronic voting machines and
if we can control the software in those machines and

(14:18):
design it in a certain way, you know, maybe we
can steal the election in this quiet way that nobody
will be able to detect. And they hired three Venezuelan
computer engineers, Antonio Mohica, Alfredo Jose Anzola, and Roger Pignante.

(14:39):
They were all graduates of Simon Belivar University in Caracas,
which is sort of their equivalent of MIT, Very highly
educated guys, and they took on this task, and they
came up with software that was installed in Olavetti kind
of touched touch screen banking machines privities throughout Venezuela, and

(15:03):
they were able to steal the election, uh an election
that was carefully monitored but nobody but they did it
in such a way that you couldn't see the evidence
of this steal, right Wow. And and and and of
course Hugo Chavis was very grateful. He gave them two
hundred million dollars and basically said, let's see if you

(15:26):
can perfect this software, and let's see if we can
we can use it in other elections throughout Latin America.
And that's what they did. And so in the early
two thousands. You know, for those who follow Latin American
political history, there were a series of elects of leftist leaders,

(15:46):
uh Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua being one of them, Evo
Morales in Bolivia, a whole series of them that were
that were elected in election is where the polls showed
them behind. You know, so it was kind of like
this is this is curious? Is this like a but

(16:08):
nobody could nobody knew really what was going on. Well,
for Castro, this was brilliant. I mean he's been trying
to infiltrate and you know, spread his his socialist communist
ideology throughout Latin America for years with guerrilla movements. I mean,
this is an easy way to do it, right, You're

(16:29):
just easy, legitimate, legitimate the election election monitors and all
these countries and that they didn't find they you know,
they couldn't find the steel right how they were doing this,
and so you know, they perfected it in Latin America
and then in two thousand and six they said, let's

(16:49):
try it in the United States. And these gentlemen, uh
same three Venezuelan engineers, they started a company in Boca
Raton called Smart Matt. It and that's where it started,
and it was always and it still remains true today.

(17:09):
The software is really owned by the government of Venezuela.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
That was the thing that really was unbelievable to me
is that through all the different and we'll get into
that eventually you can explain the different iterations of the
companies and Morphine and being bought out, that the source
code remained proprietary through each one of these sales.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
That is the fascinating.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Thing to me. Yes, that's the key, that's the key, right, Well,
the source code is owned by Venezuela, and the source code,
anybody who's a computer or software engineer will know, is
sort of the DNA of the software. You know, you
can modify it, you can, you can change it, but
it's it's sort of the instructions, you know, the core

(17:58):
of the system. And through all these sort of corporate
shell games, and you know, they're very sophisticated. They knew
which countries they could register in that would be able
to hide the corporate ownership, and they chose the Netherlands
because you don't have to you don't have to reveal

(18:20):
the owners of the software. So they did. They did
all this kind of stuff that came into the United
States immediately, they were sort of questions were raised by
Carolyn Mahoney, a representative from New York. She went to
the Treasury Department and she said something about this doesn't

(18:41):
seem right. You need to do an investigation of this software.
And then there was also a political officer at the
embassy in Caracas who wrote a long cable in two
thousand and six basically saying, you know, why is the
United States accepting this this company on face value, this

(19:03):
is event as well an owned company. Why are they
running elections in the United States? Now? Nothing ever happened.
We don't know what happened with that cable. It was
approved by the Ambassador Brownlee at the time, it went
to the State Department and got swallowed up in the bureaucracy.
So there were people back in the beginning who were saying, hey,

(19:28):
there's something funny going on here. Also, they applied to
run elections in California, and at that time the Secretary
of State of California had to do a review of
any election software that was going to be used in
the state. And they hired engineers from MIT and Berkeley

(19:50):
and so on. You know, top computer engineers, and they
came back and basically wrote a report saying, Hey, this
software looks like it was designed to steal elections. Wow,
it's got so many back doors in it. This is garbage.
You don't want this running your elections in your state, all.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Right, Ralph, What I got to do is I got
to ask you who green lit the use of the
software in America in the election the first elections. But
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All right, Ralph, let's get back to this. Did you
guys ever find who were the people that green lit

(24:29):
the machines and the software coming into the United States?
Did you ever get down to that first person in
whatever state or area or election it was, that was
that government employee was like, yeah, this, we're good with this,
because it seems like that like that's the lynchpin, the
first person who says, oh no, we're going to use it.

(24:52):
And then the county next to it, the county next
to the state or whatever.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, right, well what they did. You know, they're very
smart people. This is not a casual This isn't a
couple of guys in a basement. These are hundreds of engineers.
And as they got going, they got support from China,
they got support from Iran, they got support from Russia.

(25:17):
It became this criminal conspiracy because these countries, who are
all enemies of the United States, saw Wow, what an
amazing way to run like hybrid warfare to basically corrupt
and destroy the United States from within, right, which we
have experienced over the last you know, fifteen years, right,

(25:41):
and yees. So there was a lot of corruption involved, David,
You have to go kind of state by state, you know,
who approved. There were some examples. I don't want to
name names, but you know you can look at you know,
like in Georgia.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Uh yeah, for Fulton County, Antrim County, Michigan, Colorado. You know,
the real hotbeds of those contested Arizona.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
They knew all they knew all the key districts, Like
there are three thousand voting districts in the United States
and they're about really a dozen or more that determine
the outcome of our elections, presidential elections. They knew where
to go, they knew what districts to to to get

(26:31):
the contracts to run the elections in and they paid off.
I mean, like I said, they have tremendous amount of
money behind them, because you've got all the money, the
Venezuelan money, the oil money, plus they were getting money
from China. China pitched in two.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Hundred six million or whatever.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
It is huge amounts of money. And so the first
elect US election that they that they ran was in
Cook County, ill when Obama was running in the Democratic
primary against Hillary Clinton. At the time. You know, Hillary
Clinton had been you know, the first lady, she'd been

(27:11):
a senator from New York. She was a very you know,
prominent person and clearly the favor the favorite to win
the Democratic credit nomination. Obama at the time was a
first term senator. He'd only only been in office two years, right,
and they stole the election for Obama and uh uh, and.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Well that that that that sparks all those Manchurian candidate
conspiracies that are out there and his past and who
his mother was influenced by and Bill Ayres and all.
You know, the whole uh communist and doctrination, you know
from the beginning.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
I mean that that that.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Is from is that Hugo Javis is one of his
closest aids. Overheard was told by Hugo Javis before the election,
I'm going to elect the first black president in the
United States.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Oh my god, oh my good.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
All right, all right, so we have this rants up
fast obviously, and global connections. External money's coming in from
all over. So now it's it's you also have oil
money that's funding it. Can you introduce the idea of
the of the cartel del soul?

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Right?

Speaker 1 (28:29):
And then also when dominion comes in, try and give
us the background of those two and how the fusion
begins there.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Okay, So basically, when Javes Hugo Chavis took power in Venezuela,
he nationalized. The first thing he did, one of the
most important things he did, was he nationalized the petroleum industry,
which was huge. So suddenly he had the petroleum industry
had been was private before it was run by a

(29:00):
country called Pedavesa, and he nationalized petivesas. So he put
all of his people in key positions in Pedavesa. Of
course the company didn't you know, didn't do as well
with with with these kind of untrained loyalists and power,
but he had access to, you know, the money that

(29:23):
they were making, which is, you know, trillions of dollars
a year. In addition to that, with again with the
guidance of Fidel Castro, he created he started to create
a criminal organization using the using the Venezuelan military called
Cartel del Solis and they call it that because soul

(29:46):
is a son and on the uniforms of the Venezuelan
military on their epaulets, instead of stars, they have sons.
So basically he turned the whole military into a cartel organization.
And with the cooperation of the FARC in Colombia, which

(30:07):
is a gorilla organization, with they had Evo Morales in
Bolivia who was part of their coalition. So the cocaine
was grown in Bolivia, it was processed in Colombia, grown
in Bolivia under the protection of Evo Morales, processed in
Colombia in the jungle, using under the protection of the

(30:31):
FARC and political allies of theirs within the Colombian government,
which is a whole other story. And then it was
shipped on military you know, boats and planes into the
United States, and so they were making another at least
a trillion dollars just in the drug trade and became

(30:53):
today or the biggest transnational criminal drug cartel in the world,
in the.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
World, and with trillions of dollars and annuals, yeah, trillions.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
That that was ahead.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
That was the thing that really kind of shook me
is that you you know, you always imagine that it's
right Columbia, after the takedown of God I'm forgetting his
name right now, of those main cartels, then it what
Then it transferred the majority of power over to the
Mexican cartels, and they've been in control of this thing

(31:29):
the whole time, when the reality is they're just the
like I love how you describe them as taxi drivers, right,
they're they're just transportation. And the real distribution king around
the world is as the Venezuelan government and military, and
then the cartels their soul is and and for me
that you call them what do you call them the

(31:49):
costco of of cartels? Explain explain that a little bit,
and why why are they so why is it so
easy for them to gain access to inner national markets.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Well, they're they're they're they're partnering with with with the
Mexican cartels. So the Mexican cartels have worked for years
to develop a whole network and other gangs MS thirteen.
They've developed a whole network of you know, runners and
dealers and throughout the United States. I mean, I had

(32:26):
gosh in I think it was like twenty twelve. I
was in Las Vegas at a security convention and I
was sitting at one one day one night at dinner
with the police chiefs of Louisia, of New Orleans, Los Angeles,
you know, major, major, And I asked them at the time,

(32:47):
I said, what is your biggest threat? And they went, well,
it's not Middle Eastern terrorists And I said, okay, what
is it? And they said the car the drug cartels,
They're everywhere. And there was a there was a mayor
from Evansville, Illinois, and he said, yeah, we like last
week we arrested two Mexican guys in a shootout. And

(33:10):
like two nights later, I got a phone call at home.
My wife answered the phone and it was we need
to talk to your husband. I got on the phone
and it was a guy with a you know, Mexican
accent saying, you know, sir, you picked up two of
our friends. You need to release them. And he's like,
what the hell are you talking about? How did you

(33:31):
get my phone number? And you know you're telling me
to release you know, they were they're arrested for you know,
a shootout in public, and they were you don't understand.
You know, we know where your kids go to school,
we know where your wife works. And the guy was
like stunned. I mean, the balls on these people. But

(33:52):
they they they they know their strength and they exerted
in communities all over our country, and you know we've
allowed this to happen.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Well, there's a whole other component in the legal system
as well, being propped up by the Open Society Foundation
and that funding which is also linked. So let's pivot
from the cartel influence now over to Dominion. When did
Smartmatic slash Sequoia, When did they partner up with Dominion

(34:22):
and how did they realize all right, this was going
to be from a legal aspect, this was the merger
that was going to really be able to give us leverage.
And then can you talk through some of the founders
of Dominion their relationships around the world.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Sure, sure, So what started with Smartmatic. Smartmatic was very
small and local. It was this event Azuela o company.
They the first company they bought was called Sequoia. Sequoia
had been around for one hundred years. They had they
were their basic their basic business was atm machines, but

(35:03):
they got into voting machines. So the Venezuelans bought Sequoia.
When they applied for the contract in California to run
elections in California through Sequoia. What I referred to before
the Secretary of State did an audit and said, no,
we're not going to accept this company. So what they

(35:26):
ended up doing is they ended up selling Sequoia. It
made it look like they were selling Sequoia to Dominion.
Dominion was this tiny election company that was running like
an election in one district in Ontario, Canada, right, and
suddenly so they they they you know, they're very clever,

(35:50):
you know, they everything is disguised and and and so
basically they end up taking over a company called Dominion
and blowing it up into this you know, big election
company and winning all these contracts in all the key
election districts in the United States, and they then they

(36:10):
decide to Okay, we're going to use a dominion to
run elections in the United States and we're gonna we're gonna,
uh Smartmatic will be kind of our global uh company
with the global reach, and we'll try to win contracts
in other countries around the world through Smartmatic. So Smartmatic

(36:33):
only runs one district in the United States, and that's
Los Angeles County and and and therefore, which is where
I live. And it's it's so bad and uh, I mean,
will ever win an election in Los Angeles as long
as smartmatics here?

Speaker 3 (36:53):
And it pains me.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
I'm my you know, my whole family will have My
family's been in California, pow and Sadena for you know,
forty forty five years. My brother lived out there for
thirty years before he moved to New York. I was
stationed out there seven and a half years, and man it,
you know, it was one of the greatest places on

(37:16):
earth that you could ever visit. And you could just
see the deterioration, you know. And the fact that that
Karen Bass, who is a vowed Marxists been to Cuba
for her training, is now the mayor of Los Angeles
and what we're seeing. I mean, it's just I don't know, like,
how do what's staggering to me? I guess and I

(37:38):
guess there's a cognitive dissonance that's been built into the
consciousness of American citizens now. So even though you see
it with your own eyes, you're either too afraid to
say anything as as a result of the you know,
decade long fear campaign of cancelation, or or you just
you you you.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
What can I do?

Speaker 1 (38:01):
I don't have a say, right, And so people allowed
to come up, and it's almost like this is the
story that will be the trigger to get it going right,
because once you realize the magnitude of the nefariousness, it
really begins to grow.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
And yeah, I deal with this almost on a daily basis.
I mean, you know, I have been here, I have
lived here for twenty years. I'm originally from New York.
But you know, as you say, David, I have just seen,
you know, the disintegration of the whole you know, city

(38:41):
and the public structure of the city, you know, and
people it's weird. People accept it, you know, Yes, as
you say, they either don't know what to do, or
they're so brainwashed and afraid to step out and complain
about it. And another part of it is that people

(39:03):
that politically, you know, the media and and and and
you know, kind of the forces behind the scenes, they've
politicized everything. So it's like if you if you criticize,
you know, Karen Bass or her handling of for example,
the fires last year earlier this year, you go, you know, you're, well,

(39:23):
you're you're a you're a.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Trump guy, right or racist?

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Right or racist or whatever. And it's like, no, I
don't look, I don't care who i'm you know, I
don't really care what your political affiliation is. If you're
good at what you do, right, you know, and that's right, right,
I'm fine, you know, I'm open minded. But it's it's

(39:48):
just a weird thing. And that's why I keep telling people, hey, look,
this isn't political. It's really an attack on our country.
And as you mentioned before, it's aided by a lot
of NGOs that have been funded by Venezuela and China.
One of the things that the whistleblowers found out was
that of George Soros and the Open Society's Foundation, a

(40:11):
lot of their money comes from Venezuela, and China. So
they directly directly supports a lot of celebrities in Hollywood,
Hollywood whose names I can't reveal, but you can imagine
who they are, and you know, with big amounts of
money and organizations like Black Lives Matter and so on

(40:32):
and so so much of the disruption that we've seen
over the last you know, decade is artificial. It's not organic, right,
it has been you know, funded, it is. It is deliberate,
and it's part of the warfare. It's part of the
war that's right, exactly, all.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Right, Can you take us and connect us from dominion
senior leadership Mark Mallock Brown over to the Open Society Foundation.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Okay, So Mark Malloch Brown is a very you know,
close associate and good friend of George Soros. He he
has always he also has had had a close association
with Hugo Chavis. He's been a guy who you know,

(41:29):
you could you could describe him as a globalist. He's
very much of of of that philosophy. And he became
the he was the pre he was the the president
of Smartmatic. After the twenty twenty election, he was awarded
with the presidency of the Open Society foundations. So the

(41:51):
connection between the two is very obvious and out in
the open, really, but it's just weird, David. It's like
the press doesn't doesn't look at any of this stuff.
Like the whole idea of having investigative for journalism, which
which is so important in a in a society like ours,

(42:14):
it has disappeared. You know, these are all major, you know,
important phenomena that that that that you know, that we
need to be made that people should have been made
aware of. But it's all cloak now. And well, if
you even look at it, you're a conspiracy theorist. This

(42:35):
is that, this is there's no conspiracy here. This is
this is hard information. That's what is so brilliant about
what Gary and Martine have done. Gary is a CIA
operations officer. He builds cases by and has in his
career and is trained to do that by You find

(42:58):
the terrorist group of the Carenal conspiracy and you penetrate it.
You find sources within the conspiracy and you either pay
the money or you threaten them. You know, you come
work with us, give us information about how this conspiracy works.
That's and that's what they did here.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
So I think that's what, Yeah, that's what people I think.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
You know, people read a book and they go, oh,
he's a journalist. Uh all he this is all hearsay.
There was no These guys aren't real investigators. It's also sensational.
There's a global conspiracy to control worldwide elections that's ridiculous
and involves cartels in China, and you know, you know,

(43:43):
and people are so overwhelmed by that reality. But you're right, like,
and if you look at both Gary and Martin, these
are world class investigators, people that have been at the
tip of the sphere, in particular in Central and South America.
And what I think, you know, we've become I think

(44:03):
the American public became so aligned with a singular threat
coming from the Middle East post nine to eleven, which
I believe was all intentional to distract us from what
our regional worries were, which was the rise and growth
of communism and socialism at scale, with our South American

(44:25):
and Central American.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Partners right right on the mark, right on the mark. Yeah,
So that allow a lot of this happened because all
of the focus was on the Middle East, and so
our intelligence agencies were they were penetrated and and and
there's a there's a lot of corruption involved, but it
gave it gave Cuba and Venezuela and China, you know,

(44:50):
kind of an opening because the focus wasn't on Latin America.
And uh, you know what was allowed to grow and
and penetrate us further is something that at this point
it's choking us. If we don't solve this problem now,
I don't know, you know what our country will be

(45:12):
like in the future.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
I don't know, Well, we won't have a country, well,
we will we will devolve into a tyranny that that
will require you know, civil war at a minimum.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Right, all right, That's the one I want to make
that's so important that you brought up before, is that
these guys are not they're they're not theorists, they're not
they're not promoting any point of view. They're basically just investigators.
And they tripped upon this. They were in Venezuela looking

(45:45):
investigating money laundering in Venezuela, that's what they were doing.
And they were recruiting sources within the criminal cartel, within
the cartel, their soul and so on and so forth.
And those people were the ones who were telling them, hey,
we all so do election fraud. And Martine and Gary
were like, you know, what are you talking about. We're

(46:07):
not interested in that. We're looking at to find out
where the drug money has been stashed in different banks, right,
And they kept bringing it up. And then at the
when the twenty twenty election happened, and it was it
was so odd, right, these guys kept saying, you know, well,
we know why. They said, all right, let's put everything

(46:27):
else aside and investigate this. And they spent their own
money and their own time, and they investigated it for
three years.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
And that's what I think, that's what people have to understand.
This was not done whipped together in a six month period.
And the magnitude of credibility that these two have in recruiting,
and that's that the I mean recruiting a source or
an asset or sub source or walking or whatever at
Walking's you know, it is what it is. But the

(46:58):
rest I mean that is an art art really is.
It is an art form. And human intelligence, in my opinion,
is there's no better intelligence in the world because electronic
intelligence can be manipulated whatever it is, but human intelligence
and they went out and they have recruited dozens if
I'm not if I'm correct right, dozens of people from

(47:21):
all over these places that have shared this information. I
think the one that really hit me the hardest was
the story of Frank Holder. Can you describe who Frank
Holder is and the role he's played in this?

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Okay, So Frank Holder is a former He went to
the Air Force Academy. He is a Mormon, very clever man.
They call him super Cop. The Venezuelans called him super Cop.
He basically is a Cuban agent first then was recruited

(47:59):
by the Venezuelans and became sort of the paymaster of
the Cartel del Solz. So he was controlling a budget
of trillions of dollars a year, uh and was able
to and he became a CIA source as well. So
he was basically when the CIA wanted to know what

(48:21):
was going on in uh Latin America, they were relying
on Frank Holder because of course he certainly had uh
you know, good you know, lots of information that he
could supplied him with, but he had an agenda behind it,
and he was he was able to corrupt many officials

(48:45):
in the State Department and and our Intelligence service. And
that is all being I can't name their names, but
one of them was Manuel Rocca, who these the same
two whistleblowers discovered he had and he had been a
high official in the State Department and ambassador. He served
in the NSC and the White House, and he had

(49:08):
been a Cuban spy for forty years. He is now
in federal prison. And he's just one of probably one
of dozens of met people like him, even in higher positions.
So the Cubans who are very good at this. There's
another you know, another woman was named Anna Montez. Her story,

(49:31):
you know, she was a head of the head analysts
for the Department of Defense Intelligence Service. She was a
Cuban agent. So these the penetration of our government is

(49:52):
startling like that. That's another whole aspect of this. But
all of this information has been found and discovered through
recruiting sources, right, and they point you to, Hey, look at
this guy, Frank Holder. Well, Frank Holder, he managed to
position himself to kind of control all the independent security

(50:18):
companies in the United States, Kroll International, Berkeley Research Group.
You know, so whenever there was a study done on
Latin America or what's going on in Venezuela. You know,
he was helping to write the report because he was
either the president or in control of the Latin American division.

(50:39):
I'll give you one example in twenty twenty when the
Clinton camp, when the Trump campaign was convinced that there
had been some you know, funny business going on in
the election, who did they hire. They hired Frank Holder,
who at the time was the head of the Berkeley
Research Group. And so they didn't know who Frank Holder was.

(51:01):
Everybody assumed, if you want, if you want to know
what's going on in Latin America, called Frank Holder. Well,
Frank Holder is a Cuban spy. He's a he's an
e Venezuelan source. And what is what does Berkeley Research
Group come back with in their report? There was no no,
no regularity.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Safest safest election in US history, safestly right.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
And this is of course reported on the front page
of the Washington Post and so on, Like, you know,
those guys are nuts. Anybody who thinks that there was
any irregularities in the election. You know, we have the
definitive source. Well, your source is a Cuban spy. So
you know, this is this is what we're up against.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
One of the fascinating things to me. And what really
I think what Gary talked about this in the interview
is is when he was leading the charge in South
America to try and them the tide of this growing
socialism community, the new what whatever new form of communism

(52:08):
it is right and you know he's fighting, you know
in Bolivia, he's all over the place. And then what
was it when I think it was in twenty twelve
or sometime shortly after Obama's second election comes in and
then they were told to all stand down and then
and then Martine had a group within their Special Operations

(52:31):
division of the DEA. You know, they had talked about
having like eleven people and then after this they went
down to one person. So essentially, these people that were
in the fight were told, hey, the fights over, were
not focused on it that anymore. And so that was
for me, that was a big part of the validation

(52:52):
of the forced shift to look away from what's taking place.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Yeah, so Gary was when I met Gary, he was
the station chief CIA station chief in Bolivia. That's two
thousand and five, and he was basically told back then,
we want you to back off of any investigations into Cuba. Well, Gary,
as a station chief in Bolivia, he's fighting with the

(53:19):
Cubans because the Cubans are there with the EVO Moralest
government expanding drug trafficking throughout Central and South America and
the United States. And Gary was like, what the hell
are you guys talking about? Why they're the enemy? Were
actively fighting them here in Bolivia and you know it,
and you're coming from Washington and telling me to back down.

(53:44):
And he and other one other station chief, I think
the station chief in Ecuador were horrified. The other ones
were kind of like, you know, Okay, if this is
what's the direction that's coming down from Washington, I guess
we'll comply. But it was an early sign of how deeply,
how deep the penetration was, even back in two thousand

(54:06):
and five.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Well, and that's another thing that I think people in
the United States kind of dismiss or or don't pay
attention to that.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
You know, our State.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Department employees, our Department of Defense employees, Department of War employees,
our law enforcement, Homeland, FBI, CIA, They're actively being recruited
around the world at all times. I remember, you know,
my first when I first was getting ready to deploy
overseas with the agency, you know, and you get this
little class on like, hey, this is what you have

(54:41):
to pay attention to, these types of people here doing
this and that, And I was like, oh wow, yeah,
this is real espionage stuff. And you know, that's that's
the core of what's taking place. And imagine whereas you know,
back in World War Two or during the Cold War, right,
bionage had a component where the result was kinetic. Right,

(55:05):
it could lead to nuclear war or mass confrontations like
you're seeing in Ukraine in Russia. But now espionage is relative,
like hey, we can pay you exorbitant amounts of money
and no one gets killed. It's just the slow, gradual

(55:25):
turning away or relinquishing of your liberties through the elections
and putting these bad actors in in positions where they
can start to ignore the laws of the land. And
I think that's where we're at.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Yeah. Well, well, well, you know, as citizens, I think
a very few people really understand how the CIO, how
the CIA works, and how the FBI works. But a
big part of their their mission is counterintelligence. Right, so
you're constantly checking to make sure that your your service

(56:00):
is not penetrated by these by foreign actors, which, as
you just pointed out, that's where they focus all their energy.
That's how that's what they're trained to do. That's what
our CIA agents overseas are trained to do. They make friends,
They go to cocktail parties, and they make friends with
their Cuban or Soviet count Russian counterparts or Chinese counterparts.

(56:25):
They have been much better at it than we have,
you know. And that's the shocking part is that here
are two guys who are independent, you know, whistleblowers with
amazing backgrounds. Yes, but they found something that are that
that our tax we paid trillions of dollars in taxes

(56:47):
to these intelligence agencies to track and they didn't see it,
you know. And it's like, what an immense failure by
our intelligence service that you have and it depends on
two guys who are just patriots to stumble.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Yeah, I think the irony of of your involvement is
is so uh, it's so substantial, like Jawbreaker, right. The
crux of that whole thing was, you know, when when
Gary and his team and the Delta guys and tor
Bor are like, all right, we're we're an hour away
from him. Let's go and you know, like, just give

(57:27):
us the you know, a ranger battalion to shut the
border off. And then all of a sudden, you know,
there's this standoff and we want more money, and we're
not going to give you the rangers. And and and
then the next thing, you know, you know, is I
starts doing airlifts and brings out the entire headshed of

(57:48):
the Taliban al Qaida have been loden, and they live
in Pakistan for the next ten years, you know, and
and and that's just one aspect. And that that's it's
like the major focus we're spending. But obviously you're spending
eight trillion dollars. You know, nobody's going to shut that
spickt off. And you when you start to.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Allow your mind to.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Extrapolate the potentiality of what controlling global elections means, it
really becomes a staggering shift in consciousness. Goes back to
you know, all I ever see is is klau Schwab,
you know, saying you know, the Fourth Industrial Revolution is
coming and you must prepare and you will want nothing

(58:38):
and like it. And so how big is this, how worldwide?

Speaker 3 (58:43):
How big is it?

Speaker 1 (58:44):
How much proof do we know it's taking place around
the world right now.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
David is unfortunate, unfortunately is huge. Smartmatic runs elections in
seventy two countries around the world. All the major countries
in the world are using smartmatic software. And we've we've
a number of countries. Leaders of countries have come to

(59:10):
us and said, you know, we think our election was stolen.
I mean, we're three guys. I mean, we don't have
the capacity like to investigate everything, but we basically tell them,
like the president of Georgia near Russia, they had a
referendum last year and they were convinced that was stolen.

(59:32):
They had riots there and they came to us and
they went, do you do you think We were like,
are you they were using smartmatic voting machines? Sure they
stolen you know, Russia.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
We saw this, yeah, Romania, right, we saw And then
the one that just is so obvious to me was
Brazil getting Lula back in you know. And and I
don't know if you filed Mike Ben's at all, but
like he found the US a I d money that was.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
What would would you talk about?

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
That? Was that at the end of the book, Like
when I was going through that piece, I was like,
oh my god, we're funding this too. All the major
countries that want this type of control over people are
participating in this, so could you discuss that?

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Okay? So during DOSEE, one of the first things they
looked at was USAID, right, and what they found was
that there was an organization called STEPS. It's called the
Consortium for Elections and Political Process Strengthening. They were getting
billions of dollars I think total eight or nine billion

(01:00:47):
dollars from USAID grants and basically they were the marketing
wing of Smartmatic. So they were going into countries and
marketing through our embassies, telling countries, pressuring companies to accept
smartmatic voting machines. I'm working on another book, a follow

(01:01:12):
up book now where there's some case studies, and one
of them is from Guatemala. And in Guatemala, the US
ambassador and people in the embassy were basically twisting the
arms of the Guatemalan government and saying you have to
and they didn't want it, and they were basically like,
if you don't accept this software, you're going to have

(01:01:33):
trouble with the United States. And it's like what the hell,
And the taxpayers were paying.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
For that that's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
All for criminals who are trying to take over our
country and destroy our country to perpetuate and expand their
reach around the world. Wow, I mean it's really quite
it is. It's staggering. It's staggering. And when you see that,

(01:02:04):
you go, you know, oh my god. And then you
look at the people who are you know, on their
board and do they do they know what they were
involved in?

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Of course they do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Aaron uh, Marco Rubio, who Secretary of State. It's like,
you know, we got a big problem. We've got a
big problem. Master.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
All right, what what how let's talk a little bit
about all right, so the three of you, obviously you
you referenced that Gary Martin have approached the Bureau, They've
approached uh, the d n I, They've approached all these
agencies recently too. What what has taken place with those

(01:02:50):
uh those parlays?

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
All right, So initially before before the Trump administration, they
were so they were basically getting from Republicans and Democrats
was we don't want to either we don't want to
see your evidence, or you guys are crazy. You better
leave the country. You're going to get exposed. You're going

(01:03:14):
to get thrown in jail, right, and there were there
wasn't active FBI investigation of Gary and Martin. We know
that now after the Trump administration, the atmosphere change that
the FBI and the Justice Department in particular took all

(01:03:36):
the information that Gary and Martin had found, including interviewing
their sources, and they did their own investigation and they
found everything to be one hundred percent legitimate. Wow. The
problem is they're moving really, really slow, and we don't know.
But why they're moving really slow, you know, I don't

(01:04:00):
I don't know. I mean there there's definitely a push
and pull within the administration. Uh, some people are uh
you know, don't want this information to be made public.
But it's all been it's all been checked out, it's
all been investigated. Elon Musk has looked at it. Uh.

(01:04:22):
My my concern right now is that this story is
sort of being buried and ignored, and the President, even
though he has tweeted about We've got to do something
about election fraud, he's not particularly focusing on this, on
this information which needs to be disseminated to the American public.

(01:04:43):
As you said from the beginning, this is there isn't
an important more important story probably ever. You know, this
is a takeover of our country from within, using the
techniques of hybrid warfare. And if we don't root it out,
if we don't talk about it and spread the news,

(01:05:05):
you know, we're going to we're going to be kind
of helpless here. And what's what's shocked me is that,
you know, nobody except for Laurel Logan, God bless her,
and people like you, God bless you, are taking up
the story. Like the mainstream media they're still talking about Epstein,
you know, and it's like, you know, NBC, everybody, Now,

(01:05:28):
are they all part of this conspiracy of they all
been paid off? It makes you wonder, I mean, even
the president. I'm like, why why are you not on
television talking about this?

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
You're talking I just think, I think the.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Coast of Venezuela. But why aren't you explaining to the
American people why they're they why this meme is so dangerous?

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
I think?

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Yeah, I mean I I think I think obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
And you you you had talked about it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
There are so many problems that that Trump was facing
when he came into office, and the first and foremost,
the number one was the invasion you had to stop that.
Second is I think to expose kind of the icy
corruption bringing Doge in getting you know, I think hacking

(01:06:25):
away at USA IDEA was monstrous. An annual fifty billion
dollar budget to run these types of programs that was massive,
you know, to fund to continue funding the government.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
That was a big one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
And then you know, obviously the the the Epstein challenge
is a more nefarious kind of money laundering reality than anything.
And I think you know that's and I think you know,
Epstein was a fixer, just like I think Holder is
a fixer, just like all these other people are work
for the intelligence agencies and our fixer in some capacity.

(01:07:01):
So it goes beyond you know what this this, but this,
I agree with you is the biggest story. And for me,
this is going to be, you know, the focus of
what I'm gonna really try and drill down on. Had
a gentleman, David professor David Clements, who was huge. Yeah,

(01:07:21):
so David came on, We're going to release his show
and your show. I'm not sure which one's going first,
but probably you will go first, and then we'll deliver
his you know, to drill down and then he's given
me a few more names that I'm going to try,
and I'm just going to keep doing it. And because
I agree this is this is the crocs. If we

(01:07:42):
don't get our elections back, nothing else matters.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
The whole game is over all.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
Right, So so what do you guys, what's your plan
moving forward? Now? How do you just keep keep the
pressure on different the different agencies keep going and you know,
talking about a follow up book, like what is what's
your focus now moving forward?

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Well, I'm working on a follow up book which we'll
talk about the whole the different components of hybrid warfare,
how they've been used, the whole counterintelligence aspect of this,
and so how they recruited people, who these people are,

(01:08:30):
and the influence that they had. So I'm working on that.
Now we have the whistle. You know, Gary and Martine
have shared a lot of this and most of all
of this information with the with the administration. But they're
frustrated as I am, with the slow pace of movement, right,

(01:08:51):
And so you know, I can tell your listeners that
there are some people within the administration who are just
as alarmed as we are. And then there are other
people who seem to be resisting this and and you
know it's troubling, right, So part of our mission now,

(01:09:13):
and you know, is to spread the word to the
public because ultimately the public has to decide if this
is important enough for them, right to pressure congressmen, pressure senators,
put the media at task. I mean, David, one thing
that's so important is that, you know, in a society

(01:09:35):
like ours, the public needs to be informed about what's
what the real issues are and what's going on. And
our press has failed and continues to fail so badly,
and so people are at such a disadvantage. They don't
really understand. Everything's couched, like I said before, in terms

(01:09:55):
of politics, and this is like, no, this isn't politics.
This is these are foreign enemies who are trying to
undermine our country for their nefarious purposes. And they're doing
and they're they're actively doing that, and we need to
you know, full pressure our government and our officials and

(01:10:19):
our press and everybody else, like, hey, this is important
to us. We want to keep this country the way
it is. We want our votes to count. We don't
want our elections determined by you know, some officials in
Venezuela or China. I mean, and if there's if there
if there is you know, if there's something, it just

(01:10:43):
all needs to be examined and investigated. You know. I
put the book out. Nobody has come back and said, well,
this is all you know, I've looked into this. This
is not this is not real, you know, like I say,
it's been it's been investigated by the FBI, by the
d o J. But we need to This has to

(01:11:03):
be number one in everybody's mind, like, hey, before we
do anything else, we need to take care of this.
And if our if our elected officials won't do it,
let's get a new badge that will, because this is
this is our concern, right And so we're communicate that

(01:11:24):
message now.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
And I think you're doing an outstanding job. Ralph.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
I just am so grateful for your once again for
your courage of supporting Gary and Martine. They are real patriots.
They truly believe in in this country. They have served
this country at the highest level, and you know they
see what's what's at stake, and as do I. So

(01:11:49):
You've got another friend to help support in any way
I can. I'm going to continue banging this drum. Obviously
if there's any anybody that was in your world. One
last question, has have you guys considered to deliver the
power Point presentation, that four hour presentation to the public.

(01:12:12):
Have you guys considered doing that yet?

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Sure? I mean, you know, basically the book is, like
you've got the book in front of you. A lot
of the slides from the PowerPoint presentation are in the book.
So I'm basically I'm basically it's based on Yeah, it's
based on the PowerPoint presentation. So I'm sort of like
taking readers through it and explaining, yeah, exactly, exactly got it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Yeah, those those were just phenomenal. I mean that was
really the thing, you know, because you read, you read
a section that includes you know, these just mind boggling realities,
and then you see a slide with the actual uh
data and facts right there in front of you, and

(01:13:01):
you're just like, oh my, I mean it's it's all
right there.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
It's all right there, it's all right there. It's you know,
the information is there. Uh, it's been shared with the administration.
As I say, you know, we're waiting for them to act,
you know, we're waiting for them to act.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
Well, I think we'll we'll all, just start building this
ground squell, we'll start recruiting other patriots, we'll start talking
about it more. I know it's going to be the
focus for me up into uh these midterms. And I
just once again want to just commend you on just
a really incredible story, an incredible book, but more so

(01:13:44):
your courage as a patriot, UH and the service that
you're giving this country to to help prolong our liberty
and on our reality. Quite frankly, so Ralph, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Yeah, they're really trying to change our reality. They're they're
they're they're brainwashing people, they're pushing agendas and trying to
pretend that they're they're positive when they're not. I mean,
these people are. But if you understand, if you read
the book and you understand where it's coming from, UH,
it puts it all in context. And thanks David, thank

(01:14:17):
you so much for what you do. I'm honored to
be here and and to get to know you. It's
it's really wonderful.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Yeah, well, thank you, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
We need more people like you, and UH, let's build
a ground a ground swell of support. UH and and
let our elected officials and UH law enforcement and and
so on help. You know, hey, we need your help
with this. We we don't want to be part of
China and Russia and Venezuela and Cuba. Like, no, that's

(01:14:50):
not who we are, you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Know, it's not who we're ever going to be sure.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
That's well, God bless you, Ralph, take care and and yeah,
thank you so much

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