September 4, 2026 • 54 mins
A secret CIA rendezvous in Moscow. An explosive drone found beside a Ukrainian cargo plane at a German airport. NATO and the EU declaring the evidence clear — and the Kremlin's most senior voices claiming World War III has already begun. I've been digging through all of it so you don't have to, and this week I'm giving you my full, unfiltered assessment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What a week it's been.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
A secret CIA meeting rendezvous with Russian intelligence. A escalation
and rhetoric from the head of NATO and the European
Union based on a alleged Russian drone in a German airport.
Zelensky is firing off more messaging about attacking Russian airlines
(00:26):
or aircraft. And Putin and all of his people coming
together saying, guess what? NATO and the European Union are escalating,
and you better not. This week on The David Rutherford Show.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
What's up, everybody? Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Man, I got to tell you, over the last three
or four days, these stories have been coming out in
rapid fire at me.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
If you're a normal person, you're going about your daily life,
you're paying attention to this upcoming start of college football,
you're paying attention to maybe some interest rates, or most
of us are paying attention to our kids going back
to school and what all that entails or off to school,
so to speak.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
And so we don't.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Have our heads deeply immersed in all of this stuff
going on overseas. Well, thank goodness I'm here for you then,
because that's what I do. When I travel for my
day job and I'm out there, I'm in airports for
hours on end, on airplanes for hours on end, in
Ubers constantly, in hotel rooms, and I am immersed digging
(01:38):
into the context of all of this, this tsunami of
information so that you can have a better understanding and
I can throw a couple flashbang and truths out at you.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So, uh, again, so stoked you're here.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Uh, you know, please, uh, like subscribe and share if
you want to help other people understand what's going on.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
All right. So on August 25th, uh, the CIA, a director,
Daniel Radcliffe or John Radcliffe, made a covert trip to Moscow,
and he met with the SVR chief, Sergei Naryskin, and
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the FSB directee, Alexander Bortnikov. All right, now these are
his counterpoints in the Russian intelligence. And basically we, we
didn't have any details, true details of what this meeting
was about, but it was significant. Now the Trump administration
has said, Oh, this is just normal. You know, Hey,
(02:41):
we're checking in.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
With each other. How are you guys doing? How are
you doing? Oh, we're doing good.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
How are you doing? It's kind of like Radcliffe in there. They,
they pour some tea or some vodka or whatever they do.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And they're like, uh, know they.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Asked the russians hey you know and by the way
hey we're coming over can you can you stop strikes
in in in ukraine and and oh hey get get
that little guy zielinski on the phone and have him
stop strikes into russia as well too while we're traveling
all right they're basically saying hey we control the kinetic
op tempo of what's going on in this thing anyways
(03:14):
right now goes over and then Putin's like, hey, you know,
how's your war going down in Iran?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It doesn't look too good.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And, you know, it's like we want to believe this
is what's taking place. But the reality is there's a
tremendous amount of gamesmanship going on. And to get the
context up to where you need to be is you
need to look at the breakdown in talks that have
taken place between Ukraine, Russia. the U S the EU,
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which doesn't seem to want to really participate in those anyways,
as well as what's going on with the U S Israel, Iran,
and the Gulf coast States, because all of these things
are intertwined in one way or another, mostly through what
spending in the military industrial complex, right? As well as
what's taking place in all of the political parties that
(04:07):
are involved.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
It is an election year, right?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
And so as I'm trying to decipher all this, I'm
constantly looking through the lens of political elections that are
on the precipice for all these different areas.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
All right.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
So Ratcliffe goes over and some of the reporting that's
come out of there has basically been, he requested, hey,
whatever you do, don't strike NATO countries.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
That's a no-no. And this is to the Russians.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
He basically said, end the war in ukraine or else
um and then his final one was you better not
aid iran because that would be uncool if you aid
the proxy war if you start a proxy war with
us who's in a proxy.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
War in another war as we're.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Doing the proxy war against you that's not cool so
don't do that and that that's that's what the gist
is that i'm i'm interpreting all this and again remember
everybody These are my opinions, my estimation, my interpretation from,
you know, the better part of my entire adult life,
trying to figure out what foreign policy is, how it
works militaristically, financially, politically, all these different, religiously.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Those are all big undertones as well too.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
All right. So, and the last big, and the big
piece of this, essentially, as it was relayed to us,
It was also an affirmation to our commitment to Article
5 of our NATO PAC, which means any target, if
Russia targets any European Union NATO member, any NATO member, right,
(05:54):
then we basically, it triggers this treaty and it's an
act of declared war against any NATO and all of
its NATO members, right?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So that essentially is World War III, right? Because if
you back that out, the similar thing can also be
said as we're engaging with a BRICS nation, right? A
BRICS nation, and that's Brazil, Russia, India, Iran. uh, China
(06:26):
and South Africa, and they have an alliance economic, but
also we do know that there's an intimate relationship militarily
with Russia and Iran, right? I rushed Iran's making cheap
droids for Russia, Russia's supply and intelligence, other military, probably
weapons systems, missile systems, all that China as well with Iran.
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So you have to see how all these things, all
these places are in a connect interconnected. Um, Now, one
of the interesting things is when you think about how
diplomacy works, it's always done through these back channels. The
most famous moment in modern history or 20th century history
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was the back-channel call between JFK and the leader of
Russia for the Cuban Missile Crisis. They had that all
worked out. So you have to recognize these back channels
are a tremendous component of what's taking place. You can
see kind of those back channels became overt recently when
you look at the Iran's relationship to some of these
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other Middle Eastern countries, right? You had Turkey, Pakistan, a
nuclear power country, by the way, Turkey who's in NATO,
Pakistan who has nuclear webs, and Saudi Arabia, who we
have very strong relationships economically to because of the Gulf
and strategic position in the Gulf region in the Middle East.
They joined together and formed a military defense pact together,
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which makes all this stuff way more convoluted, right? Now
you have a pact within a pact that has different
allies together that could break up these greater things, right?
So it's very fascinating how all of this is taking place.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
All right. So those back-channel efforts are significant. And, you know...
We've had it done in the past.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
The last CIA director, one of them, Burns, he had
back-channel talks prior to Russia's invading Ukraine back in February 21.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Hey, don't do it. Don't do it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
And they're like, well, you're talking about basically you're funding
this covert war with this Azov battalion because the eastern
side of Ukraine, who think of themselves as Russians— don't
want to participate in Zelensky's new government for a bunch
of different reasons, but they see themselves essentially as Ukrainians.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Or as Russians.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And then also you had some really dumb commentary, most
specifically by Kamala Harris in a European security convention where
she basically said, yeah, Ukraine's coming into NATO right away. Also, remember,
the core of this stems back to the fall of
the USSR. And the geopolitics back then, where once Putin
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came into office in late 90s, early 2000s, he said, listen,
I want to work with the European Union.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I want to work with America.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
But you cannot expand NATO one inch to the east.
And what's happening? They just keep expanding over and over.
And if you understand the historical relevance of Ukraine with Russia,
and all you got to do is do a little history, right?
Russia essentially looks at Ukraine as a Russian territory dating
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back to the 1500s. And it certainly has provided a monster, monster,
monster um, support vehicle for Russia and, uh, all of
its natural resources in particular, its ability to, um, it's
essentially the bread basket of Russia for feeding and grain
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and all the, uh, all the, everything within agriculture in there, um,
as well as its support in, in, in that region, um, uh,
to access other areas too.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
All right. So it's a very strategic place. Okay. So
you see all this take place right now.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Radcliffe reportedly gave the FSB a bleak assessment of Russia's position,
basically saying, Hey, we know you're struggling. We know your
people are not doing well. The frontline is bogged down.
It's not moving anywhere. Um, and that's another thing to
recognize that you have all of this, these Donetsk, the
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Lashank region, they're basically in this frontline trench warfare stalemate.
And so Russia has accomplished most of what it set
out to do, which was to capture those eastern portion
of Ukraine, those eastern regions, because that's what they believe
is theirs, rightfully theirs, is also to create a probably
(11:12):
a buffer zone from the Russian area. Now, again, is
Radcliffe's intelligence good? Is it correct? Is it dialed in?
I mean, I would imagine it would be pretty good
because Zelensky, I'm sure, in the Ukrainian special operations groups,
which is kind of interesting, just yesterday or this morning,
(11:34):
I saw a video that two senior Ukrainian intelligence agencies
got into an argument on the street and they opened
fire on each other.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
So, That's not a real good look.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
It'd be like, you know, top units in the agency
and the FBI, like going head to head on the
street of Potomac Ave and getting into a gunfight with
each other.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
That's, that's what that represents.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
So there's obviously, uh, uh, uh, some infighting on what's
taken place, uh, going on in Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
All right.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Now, you know, the idea behind this is, is a
lot of the information that's coming out. We're getting, from
different reports, whether it's Axios or Fox news or whatever.
So you always have to cipher through these reports and
try and find the things that both sides agree on
or any side that's reporting the common statistical or facts
(12:32):
that are in there. And that's what we try to
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what's next for Ukraine? I think, obviously, you're going into
the winter months coming up. There's some word out there
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that Russia is softening them up. for a new offensive
prior to the winter season. And what does that look like? Well,
there was a recent massive strike on August 28th where
Russia hit a warehouse in Myla, Bucha, in the Bucha
district west of Kiev. Now, the Ukrainian officials have said
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this was a big ammunition depot, but secondary explosions, as
you might imagine with these things.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Were massive.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And really had a huge impact with an alleged or
reported death toll of 38 people, which was the deadliest
attack so far this year. There's been some other reports
of Russia hitting strategic warehouses throughout Ukraine, which are distribution
points for food. There's been some reporting online. about the
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shelves in supermarkets being bare in certain regions in Ukraine.
So it would appear that Russia is really starting to
tax the Ukrainian people. And, you know, that's how you
get pressure on the Ukrainian government, right? If you impact
people's daily lives, the citizens or the regular folks that
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aren't in war Then they'll start making waves like, what
the hell is going on?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
We can't get groceries. I can't feed my family. Is
this war worth it?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
And that's how you do that strategically, right, is to
attack the civilian population so they become anti-war.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Very common tactics used.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Now, Sunday, Russia's defense minister publicly announced it is preparing for,
in quotation, massive strikes.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
On Ukraine's energy infrastructure. Now, think about it.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
If you're preparing for a huge offensive potentially in the
fall before the winter hits and you go and you
annihilate energy infrastructure, which is used to what?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Create heat to be able to.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Cook, fuel cars, fuel generators, and you attack that stuff
going into the winter. Now, that again puts this exorbitant
amount of pressure on your population, which is a reaction. Now, coincidentally,
just so you know, we are doing similar things in Iran,
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and I'll get to that here in a little bit
as I summarize this whole thing, with our sanctions as
well as our strikes. We're beginning to think about hitting
key strategic civilian infrastructure to put pressure on the population.
Every government does this. That's how you turn the people
against the warfare or you have them dig in deeper.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's just the way it works.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
All right. Um, so, uh, the escalation pattern as, as
I see it, uh, you have a lot more daytime
attacks on Kiev, right. Which have traditionally been pretty rare. Uh, and,
and that's, you know, you gotta read the tea leaves
in this. Why is Russia now again, don't get me wrong.
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Ukraine has sent out a ton of attacks against Russia,
Russia infrastructure, rough for energy, Russian distribution points. They have
been flying massive drone swarms into Russian territory as well. Now,
Zelensky's deputy chief of staff, Pavlo Polisa, said the intel
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that they have shows that Putin has ordered his military
to prepare offensive scenarios in northern Ukraine. So remember, in
the beginning of the war, when they invaded Ukraine, They
invaded from the north, and they got massively bogged down
in the wither months. Their columns weren't effectively supplied correctly.
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The Ukrainian response was really good initially. Plenty of missile
systems that were sold to them via NATO and American
outside forces, and they were able to push that back.
I don't think Putin's army was prepared, didn't know how
to wage war. That was four or five years ago.
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Now they have a profound amount of experience. They have
this whole Eastern Front lockdown with a tremendous amount of
Ukrainian forces just trying to stifle them from gaining ground
to stop those defensive lines.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So what does that do?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
That suggests a profound vulnerability in the northern portion of Ukraine.
All right.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Now, here's the deal. As this pops off, right, you
have the rhetoric.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Begin to intensify. Obviously, Zelensky is going off. He's threatening
to attack Russian airlines that come into their airspace potentially
and really puts on a negative– Um, it doesn't appear
that Zelensky is actively trying to negotiate or find some
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off ramp to the escalation of this.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Uh, and then we'll have a little video as, as
we play some other videos first, uh, of what Putin,
how Putin reacts to all of this here in a second.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
All right.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
So, you know, any time in, or a government in particular,
you know, governments that have massive military campus, uh, capabilities,
threatens to escalate strikes, right?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
What are you doing? You're probing.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
You're seeing how people are going to react. You're going
to see how the leaders of NATO react. You're going
to see how everybody else reacts. And it's kind of like,
it's like saying, hey, if you don't, if you cross
this line, I'm going to punch you in your face.
And then you, you see how the person positions his
body to see how they react emotionally. You see if they're,
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you know, facial features, if they tighten their fists and like,
this is just like, this is what you do in
a fight, right? You flex to see a reaction. You,
you pick at the sides, you provoke to see what's
going to happen next. And I think, you know, that's
what Russia's beginning to do for multitude of reasons. Um,
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The targeting logic, I think, behind all this is when
you think about a grid war against Kiev, like I said,
prior to the winter, I think you're really trying to
intensify the demoralization or civilian morale.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
And we've all seen the.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Videos where you have Ukrainian men basically being snatched off
the street and put in these vans and taken to
the front line, into the meat grinder. We also had
an American politician that went over on his own personal
visit who was suggesting that Ukrainian women should volunteer and
join the fight at a higher scale because they are
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fighting for their existential, you know, reality.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
So I found that interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Now, I think one of the things, you know, You
always got to watch as.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Not only the.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Strikes seem to be getting more intense on civilian populations
from Russia into Kiev, but also Ukraine into Russia as well, too.
They're targeting civilians now, and that's where things begin to
shift in these types of war because you're trying to
provoke an escalation in there that gives you the opportunity to.
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Deliver some just catastrophic circumstances. And obviously, Russia has an
air superiority. They have, you know, tons of aircraft. They
have these hypersonic missile systems that we've seen strike that
has no defense whatsoever on these things. So, you know,
is it one night? Does Ukraine shoot a Russian aircraft
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out of the sky and call it terrorism or whatever
it is or justifies it? It's on the Ukrainian side
or near it. or it's a rogue drone or whatever.
And then what happens? Does Russia then launch 100 supersonic
missiles at Kiev and decimates all of the major infrastructure
in Kiev? I don't know, but it certainly seems like
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it's on the table. And to just take you back
to a couple of these ideas, I went through and
I wanted to see if there was any commentary about
regional wars escalating into World War III comments. So one
I found was by Sergei Lavrov, who is the foreign minister,
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and he, at this territory of meetings forum, reported on
August 22nd, he said, in quotes, he said, World War III,
in quotes, has already begun in a new form, end quote.
He went on to accuse the West of provoking global
conflicts to maintain its dominance and described NATO actions as
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Ukraine plus earlier Middle East interventions as the start of
a broader confrontation aimed at Russia's strategic defeat and claimed
that Russia is fighting alone against the, in quotes, collective
West and warned that Germany and other NATO members were
preparing for a direct military engagement with Russia.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
So that was Lavrov.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Dmitry Medvedev, who was the former president before Putin for
a few years, who is now the deputy chairman of
the Security Council, in a TASS interview on August 4th,
he said World War III, quote, will undoubtedly begin, unquote,
if Trump, quote, continues his insane course of criminally changing
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political regimes, end quote. Any event could be the trigger
he framed as a U.S. slash allied actions as a
war to preserve global dominance. More recently, after Trump called
Putin crazy, he said he was, quote, playing with fire,
end quote. Mediev posted the only, quote, really bad thing,
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end quote, he knew of was World War III and
hoped Trump understood this. So you have two major senior
people in um in russia basically saying they believe this
has already begun nato european union u.s through its other
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allies have already starting the uh this this dominoes to
take place now we're going to pivot on the story
a little bit and i want you to listen to
a uh first and foremost, the head of the European Union.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And pull that up for me, Jordi.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
And I want you to listen closely to how she describes,
because the next part of this, this, hold on, this
next part of this, rewind it all the way. The
next part of this story is really interesting because just
as there's this secret mission over to Russia, just, just,
Literally the other day, on Tuesday, September 1st, Germany formally
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blamed Russia for an attempted drone attack at Lipsic-Halley Airport
on August 4th.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
A drone-laden... And this was.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Remember, this happened back on August 4th, and it's just
breaking through the news now and becoming an issue, right?
That a drone laden with explosives... found near, you guessed it,
a Ukrainian cargo plane. So there was a drone that
was going to attack a cargo plane going to Ukraine
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to support the war effort from Germany, And by the way,
this thing didn't detonate. There was no damage done. It
was just found on the tarmac. So once that happened,
it sparked this massive outrage, this uprising, to the tune
where we're talking literally in terms of European and NATO
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leaders basically saying, prepare yourselves, we're going to war.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
So go ahead and.
Play all Ursula's quotes here for me. We're going to
love this.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
The nation will not work. And this is why I'm
meeting with NATO's secretary general today. We are united. Europe
and NATO will not just maintain our pressure on Russia.
We will increase it and we will not stop. Not
until Russia stops bombing and killing innocent children, men and
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women in Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Okay, so you hear right there, they're basically framing this
as an attack. I got one more for you, and
I want you to pull up, I sent you the
Mark Root post.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Who's the head of NATO. You see that one?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
All right, so now here's another post, right? And there's
been some commentary from this guy. I just thought this
post was, was perfect to understand. This is from Mark Root,
who's the Secretary General of NATO. And remember, NATO is
the alliance that came after World War II that basically
said the US, England, Germany, or at the time, West Germany,
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all the non-countries that got dominated by communism, because that's
what you do. You partner with communism to defeat Germany.
And so post-World War II, NATO began this pact that says,
you know, if, if, if, you know, if you're attacked,
we're going to come to your aid with that's America too.
So he posted this, this is Mark Rue quote. I
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spoke with, uh, Friedrich Mertz, who's the chancellor of Germany. Uh,
NATO stands in full solidarity with Germany after the Russian
hybrid attack on Lipzig on 4 August, the evidence is
clear and I welcome the measures announced by Germany in response.
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NATO will continue to strengthen our ability to deter and
defend all allies against any threat, including maligned actions like
those seen in Leipzig and elsewhere across the alliance. Russia's
attempts to intimidate us, to undermine our unity, and our
willingness to support Ukraine are futile and will fail. Our
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support to Ukraine is unwavering as... is our ironclad commitment
to NATO's collective defense, end quote.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
All right.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
So, now.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
All of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
you've got two of the head of the people and
and there's more commentary there was another long one by
uh um the german chancellor i just it It went
on for a while, but he's saying the same thing.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
We're not afraid of you.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
We have a great strategic alliance. We're against Russia. We're
going to continue. In fact, we're going to ramp up
our support and continue to do the right thing in
support of democracy.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
And, you know, all right, that's their position. We get it.
And so they're moving this towards a much higher degree.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
All right.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
One of the interesting things that came out of this,
and this is something that I found, the interior minister,
Don Brent, basically police work, offensive patterns, and intelligence findings
established Russian responsibility, and end quotes. Operations acting on behalf
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of the Russian state agencies. The FM, wait and fool.
said this is not an isolated incident. It's part of
a broader pattern of Russian hybrid operations in Europe. I
don't really know what hybrid operations mean, but essentially I
think what they're suggesting is that they started a guerrilla
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war in European countries because of their support for Ukraine.
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
And the thing that I step back on always.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
As, a person that's been involved in warfare a lot,
I've historically been consumed with it for the last 30
years as well too, is that.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
The core objective for.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
The European Union and NATO for many, many, many, probably
three decades is to get Ukraine to become a NATO member, right?
Because that puts us right on the border, which we
already have NATO countries that are on the border of Russia.
But this one is in the main pores that Russia
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really needs because of access with its fleet through the
Black Sea, as well as the breadbasket and all those
things I said before.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
That this has.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Continued over and over and over again, the provocation of
Russia in its claim to Ukraine, right? and how that
has ramped up. And there's a ton of great, I
don't need to explain all that, there's a million great
podcasts for both sides of this, right? Both sides from
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John Messerschmeier and his idea of it, which is that
the US and NATO have provoked this, to other people
on the other side, old neocons that have basically said, no,
this was Russia's intent the whole time, and that their
ultimate goal objective long term is to reclaim the old
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USSR territories at its height right that's that's kind of
what is being said.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Um now Putin has.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Responded to this and bring up Putin's response because I
found this exchange between a reporter kind of interesting and
then I'll kind of get into my assessment um But
this is kind of fascinating.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Go ahead and play that for me, would you?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
German authorities have accused Russia of being behind the drone
incident in Leipzig, claiming it was our drone carrying explosives.
But the whole story seems pretty murky to begin with.
They've already renounced the agreement on the Russian house and
are moving to close our consulate in Bonn. On top
of that, just a few hours ago, Zelenskyy openly started
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threatening our aviation, claiming that civilian aircraft have no place
in airspace where Ukrainian drones are operating. How would you
comment on this? First, regarding the actions of the German authorities.
I believe this is primarily tied to their domestic political situation.
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The chancellor's internal political standing is precarious, and he lacks
the trust of his citizens for obvious reasons. Because he
isn't defending national interests. He's trading them away. Well, look
at the glaring economic missteps. Enterprises are shutting down, people
are losing their jobs, and the standard of living is dropping.
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It's unclear why any of this is being done. The
only way to explain it to the public is by
claiming they need to counter an aggressive Russia.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
But where is the proof? So they planted the proof.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I would like to remind you that quite recently, a
few months ago, maybe a year ago at the most,
the German authorities were accusing Russia of blowing up Nord Stream.
Even back then, I was amazed at how such nonsense
could even enter their heads, considering that we are interested
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in selling gas to Europe. Even now, we would be
ready to supply it. All they have to do is
push the button. Well, just make the decision to push
the button. But they lack the backbone. Or as we say,
their gut is too thin because of American sanctions. And
that's all there is to it.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Fine.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
But now they have to explain the motives for this
kind of behavior.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
All right.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
So, you know, what you got in this is you
have basically Putin has come out and said, listen, this
is bullshit. And much like all the other times they've attempted,
we all know the Russian Nord Stream Pipeline was not
a Russian operation. There was an investigation by Germany. It
came out that it was Ukrainians who did that, who
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blew it up. Again, that's one of the most sophisticated
dive operations I've ever seen. So I didn't know Ukrainian
divers were that well-trained and whatever, but that's substantial.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
And that directly affected their energy.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
We also saw Ukraine suggests that Russia shot a missile
system into Poland. That turned out to be incorrect as well.
So the facts as I see them is Zelensky is
starting to wane with his internal surroundings. I think there's
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dissent amongst his military and political leadership. I think the
people of Ukraine are tired of the war. They don't
want to continue doing this at all. Obviously, there hasn't
been an election. All that has been pushed on pause
for a long period of time. But it seems like
Zelensky recognizes he needs more help and he needs to
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somehow get European Union. And it also seems like the
European Union and NATO, they want to continue waging this
proxy war against Russia because they believe that it's weakening
Russia's capabilities.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
I don't I don't.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I don't know if that's arguably what I've seen or
I've heard reported, other than the fact that they have
a tremendous loss of life, right? Some estimates that it's
at 1.5, could be 2.5, could be 2 million. 2
million young men and women, mostly young men from Russia
and Ukraine, have been slaughtered in this war.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
So, you know, when.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
You look at the rhetoric as a boiling point, And
that's what we have to always assess. Are we at
a tipping point, a boiling point, right? You've got NATO
Secretary of General Root back Berlin.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Evidence is clear.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Berlin is shutting down different types of consulates in Germany,
Russian consulates. So that's basically saying we're kicking out any
potentiality of– what is it, diplomatic recourse or diplomatic communication.
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In the traditional way it's been, a lot of times
it's just the Fleck, get out, you're an ass, get out.
We've done that a bunch in the United States. Russia's
done it as well, too. But the other aspect, you
even have Poland's Tusk. Basically, after a call with Root,
he said that the Russian escalation is proceeding and the
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next six months will be decisive, which I guess he's
suggesting that Russia is really going to go on the
offensive and try and put an end to this thing
over the next several months or six months or whatever. Now,
the EU foreign policy chief called the Alepsik incident bearing
all the hallmarks of state-sponsored terrorism. Again, I haven't seen
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any detailed details evaluation of the drone, the drone system,
the manufacturing, what it looks like, the engine systems, the
propulsion systems, the weapon systems, how it was made.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
But what I will tell you in a region where
hundreds of billions of dollars in military equipment has been funneled, transported, moved, delivered.
There's open reports and stories that there are missile systems
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that have made their way into Middle Eastern countries, Mexico.
there was a theory that Mexican cartels had some of
the weapons platforms and systems that had been moved out.
We also know that Ukraine is a pretty corrupt country.
At one point prior to this kicking off, it was
like the second most corrupt country in the world behind Afghanistan.
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You know, that this type of stuff might make its
way out in different ways. And it certainly would benefit Ukraine.
And I'm not suggesting that this was a false flag,
although it seems kind of strange that a country that
has the technology to wage the most sophisticated drone warfare
in modern history would make a shitty drone that doesn't work,
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that's left on whatever. But again, that's my own opinion,
my own assessment. There was many other ways that you
could provoke Germany and Germany's people to be against what
their leadership wants with the escalation or the hyper escalation of, of,
of now here's, here's a challenge behind the backdrop of
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all this. There is a major, major election beginning taking
place in Germany, right? And this election is the current
power system is going up against the fastest growing right
wing political system in germany in modern history called the
(40:53):
afd all right and some of the kind of domestic
backdrop in terms of numbers um there's a saxony and
halt vote on saturday september 6th And currently right now,
the AFD is polling above 40%. Now, this is the
same political party that last year, Germany tried to make illegal,
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calling them terrorists or right-wing crazies, and brought it to
court to try and say this is an illegal party
based on some of the remnants of the National Socialist Party,
the Nazis back in then, that they represent the same
things that had been outlawed prior to Duke. Well, a
judge basically knocked that down and said, no, it's legal.
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You can have them. Now, you know, with Berlin and
the Mecklenburg-Wappermine voting is going to take place two weeks
after Saturday, the national AFD leads at about 28% versus 21%
for the CDU slash CSU, the current leadership of Germany. Now,
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Merz's position has been a historically weak one. One survey
found that 85% of voters are dissatisfied with the current
state of domestic policy in Germany. The AFD suggested that
is Russian friendly. That's what a lot of people comment.
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They're Russian sympathizers, but their stance is that we do
not need to be in any more wars at all.
We do not need to support Russia anymore. or support
Ukraine in this war. It goes against, it's bankrupting us.
We need to focus on our own domestic policies, illegal immigration,
failing jobs, surging energy prices.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
This needs to be the focus.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
And so when you put pressure on a people economically,
typically they become more nationalistic.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
And so the AFD is tapping into this.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
This is also the same organization that last year Something
like seven, and I think that's correct. Well, look this
story up for me, Jordy, will you? They had seven
people who were running for re-election get murdered within a
couple weeks of their murder, died, strangely, in the weeks
leading up to their election. So the AFD is by
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far the biggest threat to the current globalist European Union mentality. Uh,
that Angela Miller Merkel and the rest of the European
union burnt built over the last 30 years or 20
plus years. They are a threat to this. Um, you
know what, you got that story for me? How many people,
how many of them?
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, it was seven people.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
Um, Yeah, seven official and reserve candidates from the AFD
party passed away over a short two-week period leading up
to local elections in the North Rhine-Westphalia.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Region of Germany.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
That was in September 2025. Did it ever give, does
it get a conclusion of what these people died from
or anything like that?
Speaker 5 (44:07):
The official response says that the AFD regional leaders and
law enforcement urged the public to stop spreading unverified rumors
and respect the findings of the investigation. What were the causes?
Natural causes, long-term illness, health issues, and suicide. Okay, so
there you have it.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Respect it if, but it's kind of weird when you're
having elections and seven people in the party that's taken
has threat to take over the major party die, right?
I'm not saying anything nefarious took place, but it certainly
caused the make you go.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
That's an unlikely probability to hit.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
That's a really intense coincidence right there. Combine that with
all the attacks on them politically, judicially, how leaders from
other countries are going attacking these people as radical white
wing nut jobs, right? The modern day Nazis has been
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said over and over and over. So I think as
you look at all of these things, tensions just seem
to be growing, growing, growing. You've got a long history
(45:24):
of the European Union and NATO being profound advocates for
Ukraine and Ukraine's war against Russia.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
It's for the heartbeat of democracy.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Well, we also see kind of the stalemate escalation slash, uh,
not quite thinking we had, uh, you know, uh, we're
not really getting to where, where the accomplishments we wanted
to get to in Iran. And so it's like, Where
(46:00):
do you get, again, I'll go back to the midterms
and the political, the elections coming up. What would you
do if you were running and your foreign policy or
domestic policy was the continuation of your people's taxed equivalent
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being spent on these wars overseas that seemingly have a
negative impact on your way or quality of life.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
So what do you do?
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Well, if it were me, I would increase the concept
of threat analysis, right? Well, this thing's existential. If this
could pop at any minute, the rhetoric's going up on
the other side. They're actively trying to hurt us in
our own country now. There's a rise of, you know,
all these different ways. So what do you do in
order to make sure you can solidify your election and
(46:54):
stay in power to keep this thing going and rolling?
you generate a heightened sense of fear in your people. Unfortunately,
I think for many different countries, many different people who
are either directly or superfluously engaged when these conflicts, the
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populations of these areas, these countries are becoming weary.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
That's what it looks like to me.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
So, you know, one of the things that, that you
have to watch is you have to watch, right? You
look at the strategic nature of the actual war, the strikes,
the responses, what's taking place. Like recently, Iran sent missiles
into Jordan at our bases. And what is they basically saying? Hey, look,
(47:46):
we're going to reach you all over the place. None
of your bases are safe. None of this is good.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
And what are they doing?
Speaker 2 (47:53):
They're building up a lack of morale in the military
and they're also, you know, demoralizing the American people saying
you're not in control of this thing, you know, and
it would appear that, uh, Russia is potentially engaged in similar, uh, similar, uh, tactics,
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if you will. Um, so, you know, as I close
this out, um, one of the things that you have
to start to recognize is that, um, Diplomacy at these
levels and at these scale, right, typically needs to come
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from a collective outside pressure, right?
Speaker 1 (48:41):
So where is it from Russia?
Speaker 2 (48:44):
I would love to see some other players get involved,
some other potentially Spain, Italy players, more of the, you know,
Eastern European countries kind of come together and say, this
is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
This is enough. Force the hand, right? That it's doing it.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Obviously, Trump said he was going to fix it in
the first week of being nominated. That's definitely not feasible.
It's not going to happen. I don't think we have
much political influence there. I think the Radcliffe meeting was
kind of this uh, bizarre flex or request or whatever.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Hey, slow down what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
So ours doesn't look as bad for the midterms, maybe
something like that. I don't know. Um, but what I
can tell you is that it seems like These regional
little skirmishes, or more than skirmishes, these are significant conflicts.
These are hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars that
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we've spent in Ukraine, hundreds and hundreds of billions of
dollars that we've spent in Iran, as well as the
European Union, billions, tens of billions of dollars, Israel spending
billions of dollars. All of these, the Gulf states are
probably spending billions of dollars purchasing defense systems for us.
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It just seems like it's popping and the diplomacy is waning.
And all you got to do is listen to the
world leaders. They're literally telling you what their thoughts are.
And they're basically saying, well, we're not going to quit.
We're not going to end it. We can't. It's our
duty now. to the Iranian people. It's our duty to
(50:27):
our relationships with Israel. It's a duty to the middle East,
our partners there. It's our duty to the European union.
It's our duty, the Ukrainians. And then the other side
is saying literally the same thing to its people and
its relationships as well. And so, uh, my estimations are
that a lack of diplomacy, uh, intensifies And it's not
(50:49):
a stalemate. I don't feel like we're, I feel like
we're moving out of a stalemate into a kinetic escalation.
And unfortunately, uh, for all of us, that's going to
have a impact on us financially, obviously, whether it's through
more spending, more debt, uh, uh, disruptions in, in global
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markets of some kind. And it's also going to have
political ramifications, right? What, when you have, uh, uh, When
you have conflicts taking place that go against people that
are tired, they feel economically oppressed or depressed, it funnels,
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it flames the fire for revolutionary thinking, if you will.
And I think we're seeing that in the Democratic Party.
I think there's more aggressive talk on the far right
of the Republican Party. and far left of the Republican Party.
I mean, right now, both parties are at war with
(51:53):
each other in multiple ways. I almost see like five
or six different political parties emerging out of all this,
which is really fascinating. We'll do a show on that
here in the lead up to the midterms. But it's very,
very concerning that this no diplomacy or active, fertile diplomacy
(52:15):
is taking place and it's just more rhetoric of escalation.
So basically that's my assessment of what's taken place in
the last week or so. I hope that it's given
you some context to think about, to map it all
out a little bit more. It's incredibly complex. I'm struggling
(52:35):
to keep up with everything and all the pieces and
how they're connected for sure. I know you must be
as well too. So Geordie and I, our main mission is, again,
to bring some context to the tsunami of information and
to bring a little bit of my truth, which I
hope is as close to a rational assessment of the
(52:58):
situation as possible so that you can come to your
own conclusions and decide whether you think the U.S. is
engaged in the right foreign policy as well as our
partners in NATO and the European Union.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
All right.
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God bless America.
What a week it's been.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
A secret CIA meeting rendezvous with Russian intelligence. A escalation
and rhetoric from the head of NATO and the European
Union based on a alleged Russian drone in a German airport.
Zelensky is firing off more messaging about attacking Russian airlines
(00:26):
or aircraft. And Putin and all of his people coming
together saying, guess what? NATO and the European Union are escalating,
and you better not. This week on The David Rutherford Show.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
What's up, everybody? Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Man, I got to tell you, over the last three
or four days, these stories have been coming out in
rapid fire at me.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
If you're a normal person, you're going about your daily life,
you're paying attention to this upcoming start of college football,
you're paying attention to maybe some interest rates, or most
of us are paying attention to our kids going back
to school and what all that entails or off to school,
so to speak.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
And so we don't.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Have our heads deeply immersed in all of this stuff
going on overseas. Well, thank goodness I'm here for you then,
because that's what I do. When I travel for my
day job and I'm out there, I'm in airports for
hours on end, on airplanes for hours on end, in
Ubers constantly, in hotel rooms, and I am immersed digging
(01:38):
into the context of all of this, this tsunami of
information so that you can have a better understanding and
I can throw a couple flashbang and truths out at you.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So, uh, again, so stoked you're here.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Uh, you know, please, uh, like subscribe and share if
you want to help other people understand what's going on.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
All right. So on August 25th, uh, the CIA, a director,
Daniel Radcliffe or John Radcliffe, made a covert trip to Moscow,
and he met with the SVR chief, Sergei Naryskin, and
(02:19):
the FSB directee, Alexander Bortnikov. All right, now these are
his counterpoints in the Russian intelligence. And basically we, we
didn't have any details, true details of what this meeting
was about, but it was significant. Now the Trump administration
has said, Oh, this is just normal. You know, Hey,
(02:41):
we're checking in.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
With each other. How are you guys doing? How are
you doing? Oh, we're doing good.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
How are you doing? It's kind of like Radcliffe in there. They,
they pour some tea or some vodka or whatever they do.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And they're like, uh, know they.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Asked the russians hey you know and by the way
hey we're coming over can you can you stop strikes
in in in ukraine and and oh hey get get
that little guy zielinski on the phone and have him
stop strikes into russia as well too while we're traveling
all right they're basically saying hey we control the kinetic
op tempo of what's going on in this thing anyways
(03:14):
right now goes over and then Putin's like, hey, you know,
how's your war going down in Iran?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It doesn't look too good.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And, you know, it's like we want to believe this
is what's taking place. But the reality is there's a
tremendous amount of gamesmanship going on. And to get the
context up to where you need to be is you
need to look at the breakdown in talks that have
taken place between Ukraine, Russia. the U S the EU,
(03:43):
which doesn't seem to want to really participate in those anyways,
as well as what's going on with the U S Israel, Iran,
and the Gulf coast States, because all of these things
are intertwined in one way or another, mostly through what
spending in the military industrial complex, right? As well as
what's taking place in all of the political parties that
(04:07):
are involved.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
It is an election year, right?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
And so as I'm trying to decipher all this, I'm
constantly looking through the lens of political elections that are
on the precipice for all these different areas.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
All right.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
So Ratcliffe goes over and some of the reporting that's
come out of there has basically been, he requested, hey,
whatever you do, don't strike NATO countries.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
That's a no-no. And this is to the Russians.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
He basically said, end the war in ukraine or else
um and then his final one was you better not
aid iran because that would be uncool if you aid
the proxy war if you start a proxy war with
us who's in a proxy.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
War in another war as we're.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Doing the proxy war against you that's not cool so
don't do that and that that's that's what the gist
is that i'm i'm interpreting all this and again remember
everybody These are my opinions, my estimation, my interpretation from,
you know, the better part of my entire adult life,
trying to figure out what foreign policy is, how it
works militaristically, financially, politically, all these different, religiously.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Those are all big undertones as well too.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
All right. So, and the last big, and the big
piece of this, essentially, as it was relayed to us,
It was also an affirmation to our commitment to Article
5 of our NATO PAC, which means any target, if
Russia targets any European Union NATO member, any NATO member, right,
(05:54):
then we basically, it triggers this treaty and it's an
act of declared war against any NATO and all of
its NATO members, right?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So that essentially is World War III, right? Because if
you back that out, the similar thing can also be
said as we're engaging with a BRICS nation, right? A
BRICS nation, and that's Brazil, Russia, India, Iran. uh, China
(06:26):
and South Africa, and they have an alliance economic, but
also we do know that there's an intimate relationship militarily
with Russia and Iran, right? I rushed Iran's making cheap
droids for Russia, Russia's supply and intelligence, other military, probably
weapons systems, missile systems, all that China as well with Iran.
(06:47):
So you have to see how all these things, all
these places are in a connect interconnected. Um, Now, one
of the interesting things is when you think about how
diplomacy works, it's always done through these back channels. The
most famous moment in modern history or 20th century history
(07:09):
was the back-channel call between JFK and the leader of
Russia for the Cuban Missile Crisis. They had that all
worked out. So you have to recognize these back channels
are a tremendous component of what's taking place. You can
see kind of those back channels became overt recently when
you look at the Iran's relationship to some of these
(07:34):
other Middle Eastern countries, right? You had Turkey, Pakistan, a
nuclear power country, by the way, Turkey who's in NATO,
Pakistan who has nuclear webs, and Saudi Arabia, who we
have very strong relationships economically to because of the Gulf
and strategic position in the Gulf region in the Middle East.
They joined together and formed a military defense pact together,
(07:57):
which makes all this stuff way more convoluted, right? Now
you have a pact within a pact that has different
allies together that could break up these greater things, right?
So it's very fascinating how all of this is taking place.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
All right. So those back-channel efforts are significant. And, you know...
We've had it done in the past.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
The last CIA director, one of them, Burns, he had
back-channel talks prior to Russia's invading Ukraine back in February 21.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Hey, don't do it. Don't do it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
And they're like, well, you're talking about basically you're funding
this covert war with this Azov battalion because the eastern
side of Ukraine, who think of themselves as Russians— don't
want to participate in Zelensky's new government for a bunch
of different reasons, but they see themselves essentially as Ukrainians.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Or as Russians.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And then also you had some really dumb commentary, most
specifically by Kamala Harris in a European security convention where
she basically said, yeah, Ukraine's coming into NATO right away. Also, remember,
the core of this stems back to the fall of
the USSR. And the geopolitics back then, where once Putin
(09:22):
came into office in late 90s, early 2000s, he said, listen,
I want to work with the European Union.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I want to work with America.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
But you cannot expand NATO one inch to the east.
And what's happening? They just keep expanding over and over.
And if you understand the historical relevance of Ukraine with Russia,
and all you got to do is do a little history, right?
Russia essentially looks at Ukraine as a Russian territory dating
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back to the 1500s. And it certainly has provided a monster, monster,
monster um, support vehicle for Russia and, uh, all of
its natural resources in particular, its ability to, um, it's
essentially the bread basket of Russia for feeding and grain
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and all the, uh, all the, everything within agriculture in there, um,
as well as its support in, in, in that region, um, uh,
to access other areas too.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
All right. So it's a very strategic place. Okay. So
you see all this take place right now.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Radcliffe reportedly gave the FSB a bleak assessment of Russia's position,
basically saying, Hey, we know you're struggling. We know your
people are not doing well. The frontline is bogged down.
It's not moving anywhere. Um, and that's another thing to
recognize that you have all of this, these Donetsk, the
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Lashank region, they're basically in this frontline trench warfare stalemate.
And so Russia has accomplished most of what it set
out to do, which was to capture those eastern portion
of Ukraine, those eastern regions, because that's what they believe
is theirs, rightfully theirs, is also to create a probably
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a buffer zone from the Russian area. Now, again, is
Radcliffe's intelligence good? Is it correct? Is it dialed in?
I mean, I would imagine it would be pretty good
because Zelensky, I'm sure, in the Ukrainian special operations groups,
which is kind of interesting, just yesterday or this morning,
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I saw a video that two senior Ukrainian intelligence agencies
got into an argument on the street and they opened
fire on each other.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
So, That's not a real good look.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
It'd be like, you know, top units in the agency
and the FBI, like going head to head on the
street of Potomac Ave and getting into a gunfight with
each other.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
That's, that's what that represents.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
So there's obviously, uh, uh, uh, some infighting on what's
taken place, uh, going on in Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
All right.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Now, you know, the idea behind this is, is a
lot of the information that's coming out. We're getting, from
different reports, whether it's Axios or Fox news or whatever.
So you always have to cipher through these reports and
try and find the things that both sides agree on
or any side that's reporting the common statistical or facts
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that are in there. And that's what we try to
do as, as Geordie helps me go through and breaks
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what's next for Ukraine? I think, obviously, you're going into
the winter months coming up. There's some word out there
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that Russia is softening them up. for a new offensive
prior to the winter season. And what does that look like? Well,
there was a recent massive strike on August 28th where
Russia hit a warehouse in Myla, Bucha, in the Bucha
district west of Kiev. Now, the Ukrainian officials have said
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this was a big ammunition depot, but secondary explosions, as
you might imagine with these things.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Were massive.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And really had a huge impact with an alleged or
reported death toll of 38 people, which was the deadliest
attack so far this year. There's been some other reports
of Russia hitting strategic warehouses throughout Ukraine, which are distribution
points for food. There's been some reporting online. about the
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shelves in supermarkets being bare in certain regions in Ukraine.
So it would appear that Russia is really starting to
tax the Ukrainian people. And, you know, that's how you
get pressure on the Ukrainian government, right? If you impact
people's daily lives, the citizens or the regular folks that
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aren't in war Then they'll start making waves like, what
the hell is going on?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
We can't get groceries. I can't feed my family. Is
this war worth it?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
And that's how you do that strategically, right, is to
attack the civilian population so they become anti-war.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Very common tactics used.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Now, Sunday, Russia's defense minister publicly announced it is preparing for,
in quotation, massive strikes.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
On Ukraine's energy infrastructure. Now, think about it.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
If you're preparing for a huge offensive potentially in the
fall before the winter hits and you go and you
annihilate energy infrastructure, which is used to what?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Create heat to be able to.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Cook, fuel cars, fuel generators, and you attack that stuff
going into the winter. Now, that again puts this exorbitant
amount of pressure on your population, which is a reaction. Now, coincidentally,
just so you know, we are doing similar things in Iran,
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and I'll get to that here in a little bit
as I summarize this whole thing, with our sanctions as
well as our strikes. We're beginning to think about hitting
key strategic civilian infrastructure to put pressure on the population.
Every government does this. That's how you turn the people
against the warfare or you have them dig in deeper.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's just the way it works.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
All right. Um, so, uh, the escalation pattern as, as
I see it, uh, you have a lot more daytime
attacks on Kiev, right. Which have traditionally been pretty rare. Uh, and,
and that's, you know, you gotta read the tea leaves
in this. Why is Russia now again, don't get me wrong.
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Ukraine has sent out a ton of attacks against Russia,
Russia infrastructure, rough for energy, Russian distribution points. They have
been flying massive drone swarms into Russian territory as well. Now,
Zelensky's deputy chief of staff, Pavlo Polisa, said the intel
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that they have shows that Putin has ordered his military
to prepare offensive scenarios in northern Ukraine. So remember, in
the beginning of the war, when they invaded Ukraine, They
invaded from the north, and they got massively bogged down
in the wither months. Their columns weren't effectively supplied correctly.
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The Ukrainian response was really good initially. Plenty of missile
systems that were sold to them via NATO and American
outside forces, and they were able to push that back.
I don't think Putin's army was prepared, didn't know how
to wage war. That was four or five years ago.
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Now they have a profound amount of experience. They have
this whole Eastern Front lockdown with a tremendous amount of
Ukrainian forces just trying to stifle them from gaining ground
to stop those defensive lines.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So what does that do?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
That suggests a profound vulnerability in the northern portion of Ukraine.
All right.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Now, here's the deal. As this pops off, right, you
have the rhetoric.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Begin to intensify. Obviously, Zelensky is going off. He's threatening
to attack Russian airlines that come into their airspace potentially
and really puts on a negative– Um, it doesn't appear
that Zelensky is actively trying to negotiate or find some
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off ramp to the escalation of this.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Uh, and then we'll have a little video as, as
we play some other videos first, uh, of what Putin,
how Putin reacts to all of this here in a second.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
All right.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
So, you know, any time in, or a government in particular,
you know, governments that have massive military campus, uh, capabilities,
threatens to escalate strikes, right?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
What are you doing? You're probing.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
You're seeing how people are going to react. You're going
to see how the leaders of NATO react. You're going
to see how everybody else reacts. And it's kind of like,
it's like saying, hey, if you don't, if you cross
this line, I'm going to punch you in your face.
And then you, you see how the person positions his
body to see how they react emotionally. You see if they're,
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you know, facial features, if they tighten their fists and like,
this is just like, this is what you do in
a fight, right? You flex to see a reaction. You,
you pick at the sides, you provoke to see what's
going to happen next. And I think, you know, that's
what Russia's beginning to do for multitude of reasons. Um,
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The targeting logic, I think, behind all this is when
you think about a grid war against Kiev, like I said,
prior to the winter, I think you're really trying to
intensify the demoralization or civilian morale.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
And we've all seen the.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Videos where you have Ukrainian men basically being snatched off
the street and put in these vans and taken to
the front line, into the meat grinder. We also had
an American politician that went over on his own personal
visit who was suggesting that Ukrainian women should volunteer and
join the fight at a higher scale because they are
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fighting for their existential, you know, reality.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
So I found that interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Now, I think one of the things, you know, You
always got to watch as.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Not only the.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Strikes seem to be getting more intense on civilian populations
from Russia into Kiev, but also Ukraine into Russia as well, too.
They're targeting civilians now, and that's where things begin to
shift in these types of war because you're trying to
provoke an escalation in there that gives you the opportunity to.
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Deliver some just catastrophic circumstances. And obviously, Russia has an
air superiority. They have, you know, tons of aircraft. They
have these hypersonic missile systems that we've seen strike that
has no defense whatsoever on these things. So, you know,
is it one night? Does Ukraine shoot a Russian aircraft
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out of the sky and call it terrorism or whatever
it is or justifies it? It's on the Ukrainian side
or near it. or it's a rogue drone or whatever.
And then what happens? Does Russia then launch 100 supersonic
missiles at Kiev and decimates all of the major infrastructure
in Kiev? I don't know, but it certainly seems like
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it's on the table. And to just take you back
to a couple of these ideas, I went through and
I wanted to see if there was any commentary about
regional wars escalating into World War III comments. So one
I found was by Sergei Lavrov, who is the foreign minister,
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and he, at this territory of meetings forum, reported on
August 22nd, he said, in quotes, he said, World War III,
in quotes, has already begun in a new form, end quote.
He went on to accuse the West of provoking global
conflicts to maintain its dominance and described NATO actions as
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Ukraine plus earlier Middle East interventions as the start of
a broader confrontation aimed at Russia's strategic defeat and claimed
that Russia is fighting alone against the, in quotes, collective
West and warned that Germany and other NATO members were
preparing for a direct military engagement with Russia.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
So that was Lavrov.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Dmitry Medvedev, who was the former president before Putin for
a few years, who is now the deputy chairman of
the Security Council, in a TASS interview on August 4th,
he said World War III, quote, will undoubtedly begin, unquote,
if Trump, quote, continues his insane course of criminally changing
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political regimes, end quote. Any event could be the trigger
he framed as a U.S. slash allied actions as a
war to preserve global dominance. More recently, after Trump called
Putin crazy, he said he was, quote, playing with fire,
end quote. Mediev posted the only, quote, really bad thing,
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end quote, he knew of was World War III and
hoped Trump understood this. So you have two major senior
people in um in russia basically saying they believe this
has already begun nato european union u.s through its other
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allies have already starting the uh this this dominoes to
take place now we're going to pivot on the story
a little bit and i want you to listen to
a uh first and foremost, the head of the European Union.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And pull that up for me, Jordi.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
And I want you to listen closely to how she describes,
because the next part of this, this, hold on, this
next part of this, rewind it all the way. The
next part of this story is really interesting because just
as there's this secret mission over to Russia, just, just,
Literally the other day, on Tuesday, September 1st, Germany formally
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blamed Russia for an attempted drone attack at Lipsic-Halley Airport
on August 4th.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
A drone-laden... And this was.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Remember, this happened back on August 4th, and it's just
breaking through the news now and becoming an issue, right?
That a drone laden with explosives... found near, you guessed it,
a Ukrainian cargo plane. So there was a drone that
was going to attack a cargo plane going to Ukraine
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to support the war effort from Germany, And by the way,
this thing didn't detonate. There was no damage done. It
was just found on the tarmac. So once that happened,
it sparked this massive outrage, this uprising, to the tune
where we're talking literally in terms of European and NATO
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leaders basically saying, prepare yourselves, we're going to war.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
So go ahead and.
Play all Ursula's quotes here for me. We're going to
love this.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
The nation will not work. And this is why I'm
meeting with NATO's secretary general today. We are united. Europe
and NATO will not just maintain our pressure on Russia.
We will increase it and we will not stop. Not
until Russia stops bombing and killing innocent children, men and
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women in Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Okay, so you hear right there, they're basically framing this
as an attack. I got one more for you, and
I want you to pull up, I sent you the
Mark Root post.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Who's the head of NATO. You see that one?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
All right, so now here's another post, right? And there's
been some commentary from this guy. I just thought this
post was, was perfect to understand. This is from Mark Root,
who's the Secretary General of NATO. And remember, NATO is
the alliance that came after World War II that basically
said the US, England, Germany, or at the time, West Germany,
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all the non-countries that got dominated by communism, because that's
what you do. You partner with communism to defeat Germany.
And so post-World War II, NATO began this pact that says,
you know, if, if, if, you know, if you're attacked,
we're going to come to your aid with that's America too.
So he posted this, this is Mark Rue quote. I
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spoke with, uh, Friedrich Mertz, who's the chancellor of Germany. Uh,
NATO stands in full solidarity with Germany after the Russian
hybrid attack on Lipzig on 4 August, the evidence is
clear and I welcome the measures announced by Germany in response.
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NATO will continue to strengthen our ability to deter and
defend all allies against any threat, including maligned actions like
those seen in Leipzig and elsewhere across the alliance. Russia's
attempts to intimidate us, to undermine our unity, and our
willingness to support Ukraine are futile and will fail. Our
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support to Ukraine is unwavering as... is our ironclad commitment
to NATO's collective defense, end quote.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
All right.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
So, now.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
All of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
you've got two of the head of the people and
and there's more commentary there was another long one by
uh um the german chancellor i just it It went
on for a while, but he's saying the same thing.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
We're not afraid of you.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
We have a great strategic alliance. We're against Russia. We're
going to continue. In fact, we're going to ramp up
our support and continue to do the right thing in
support of democracy.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
And, you know, all right, that's their position. We get it.
And so they're moving this towards a much higher degree.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
All right.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
One of the interesting things that came out of this,
and this is something that I found, the interior minister,
Don Brent, basically police work, offensive patterns, and intelligence findings
established Russian responsibility, and end quotes. Operations acting on behalf
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of the Russian state agencies. The FM, wait and fool.
said this is not an isolated incident. It's part of
a broader pattern of Russian hybrid operations in Europe. I
don't really know what hybrid operations mean, but essentially I
think what they're suggesting is that they started a guerrilla
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war in European countries because of their support for Ukraine.
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
And the thing that I step back on always.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
As, a person that's been involved in warfare a lot,
I've historically been consumed with it for the last 30
years as well too, is that.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
The core objective for.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
The European Union and NATO for many, many, many, probably
three decades is to get Ukraine to become a NATO member, right?
Because that puts us right on the border, which we
already have NATO countries that are on the border of Russia.
But this one is in the main pores that Russia
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really needs because of access with its fleet through the
Black Sea, as well as the breadbasket and all those
things I said before.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
That this has.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Continued over and over and over again, the provocation of
Russia in its claim to Ukraine, right? and how that
has ramped up. And there's a ton of great, I
don't need to explain all that, there's a million great
podcasts for both sides of this, right? Both sides from
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John Messerschmeier and his idea of it, which is that
the US and NATO have provoked this, to other people
on the other side, old neocons that have basically said, no,
this was Russia's intent the whole time, and that their
ultimate goal objective long term is to reclaim the old
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USSR territories at its height right that's that's kind of
what is being said.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Um now Putin has.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Responded to this and bring up Putin's response because I
found this exchange between a reporter kind of interesting and
then I'll kind of get into my assessment um But
this is kind of fascinating.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Go ahead and play that for me, would you?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
German authorities have accused Russia of being behind the drone
incident in Leipzig, claiming it was our drone carrying explosives.
But the whole story seems pretty murky to begin with.
They've already renounced the agreement on the Russian house and
are moving to close our consulate in Bonn. On top
of that, just a few hours ago, Zelenskyy openly started
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threatening our aviation, claiming that civilian aircraft have no place
in airspace where Ukrainian drones are operating. How would you
comment on this? First, regarding the actions of the German authorities.
I believe this is primarily tied to their domestic political situation.
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The chancellor's internal political standing is precarious, and he lacks
the trust of his citizens for obvious reasons. Because he
isn't defending national interests. He's trading them away. Well, look
at the glaring economic missteps. Enterprises are shutting down, people
are losing their jobs, and the standard of living is dropping.
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It's unclear why any of this is being done. The
only way to explain it to the public is by
claiming they need to counter an aggressive Russia.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
But where is the proof? So they planted the proof.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I would like to remind you that quite recently, a
few months ago, maybe a year ago at the most,
the German authorities were accusing Russia of blowing up Nord Stream.
Even back then, I was amazed at how such nonsense
could even enter their heads, considering that we are interested
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in selling gas to Europe. Even now, we would be
ready to supply it. All they have to do is
push the button. Well, just make the decision to push
the button. But they lack the backbone. Or as we say,
their gut is too thin because of American sanctions. And
that's all there is to it.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Fine.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
But now they have to explain the motives for this
kind of behavior.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
All right.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
So, you know, what you got in this is you
have basically Putin has come out and said, listen, this
is bullshit. And much like all the other times they've attempted,
we all know the Russian Nord Stream Pipeline was not
a Russian operation. There was an investigation by Germany. It
came out that it was Ukrainians who did that, who
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blew it up. Again, that's one of the most sophisticated
dive operations I've ever seen. So I didn't know Ukrainian
divers were that well-trained and whatever, but that's substantial.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
And that directly affected their energy.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
We also saw Ukraine suggests that Russia shot a missile
system into Poland. That turned out to be incorrect as well.
So the facts as I see them is Zelensky is
starting to wane with his internal surroundings. I think there's
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dissent amongst his military and political leadership. I think the
people of Ukraine are tired of the war. They don't
want to continue doing this at all. Obviously, there hasn't
been an election. All that has been pushed on pause
for a long period of time. But it seems like
Zelensky recognizes he needs more help and he needs to
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somehow get European Union. And it also seems like the
European Union and NATO, they want to continue waging this
proxy war against Russia because they believe that it's weakening
Russia's capabilities.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
I don't I don't.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I don't know if that's arguably what I've seen or
I've heard reported, other than the fact that they have
a tremendous loss of life, right? Some estimates that it's
at 1.5, could be 2.5, could be 2 million. 2
million young men and women, mostly young men from Russia
and Ukraine, have been slaughtered in this war.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
So, you know, when.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
You look at the rhetoric as a boiling point, And
that's what we have to always assess. Are we at
a tipping point, a boiling point, right? You've got NATO
Secretary of General Root back Berlin.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Evidence is clear.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Berlin is shutting down different types of consulates in Germany,
Russian consulates. So that's basically saying we're kicking out any
potentiality of– what is it, diplomatic recourse or diplomatic communication.
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In the traditional way it's been, a lot of times
it's just the Fleck, get out, you're an ass, get out.
We've done that a bunch in the United States. Russia's
done it as well, too. But the other aspect, you
even have Poland's Tusk. Basically, after a call with Root,
he said that the Russian escalation is proceeding and the
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next six months will be decisive, which I guess he's
suggesting that Russia is really going to go on the
offensive and try and put an end to this thing
over the next several months or six months or whatever. Now,
the EU foreign policy chief called the Alepsik incident bearing
all the hallmarks of state-sponsored terrorism. Again, I haven't seen
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any detailed details evaluation of the drone, the drone system,
the manufacturing, what it looks like, the engine systems, the
propulsion systems, the weapon systems, how it was made.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
But what I will tell you in a region where
hundreds of billions of dollars in military equipment has been funneled, transported, moved, delivered.
There's open reports and stories that there are missile systems
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that have made their way into Middle Eastern countries, Mexico.
there was a theory that Mexican cartels had some of
the weapons platforms and systems that had been moved out.
We also know that Ukraine is a pretty corrupt country.
At one point prior to this kicking off, it was
like the second most corrupt country in the world behind Afghanistan.
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You know, that this type of stuff might make its
way out in different ways. And it certainly would benefit Ukraine.
And I'm not suggesting that this was a false flag,
although it seems kind of strange that a country that
has the technology to wage the most sophisticated drone warfare
in modern history would make a shitty drone that doesn't work,
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that's left on whatever. But again, that's my own opinion,
my own assessment. There was many other ways that you
could provoke Germany and Germany's people to be against what
their leadership wants with the escalation or the hyper escalation of, of,
of now here's, here's a challenge behind the backdrop of
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all this. There is a major, major election beginning taking
place in Germany, right? And this election is the current
power system is going up against the fastest growing right
wing political system in germany in modern history called the
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afd all right and some of the kind of domestic
backdrop in terms of numbers um there's a saxony and
halt vote on saturday september 6th And currently right now,
the AFD is polling above 40%. Now, this is the
same political party that last year, Germany tried to make illegal,
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calling them terrorists or right-wing crazies, and brought it to
court to try and say this is an illegal party
based on some of the remnants of the National Socialist Party,
the Nazis back in then, that they represent the same
things that had been outlawed prior to Duke. Well, a
judge basically knocked that down and said, no, it's legal.
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You can have them. Now, you know, with Berlin and
the Mecklenburg-Wappermine voting is going to take place two weeks
after Saturday, the national AFD leads at about 28% versus 21%
for the CDU slash CSU, the current leadership of Germany. Now,
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Merz's position has been a historically weak one. One survey
found that 85% of voters are dissatisfied with the current
state of domestic policy in Germany. The AFD suggested that
is Russian friendly. That's what a lot of people comment.
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They're Russian sympathizers, but their stance is that we do
not need to be in any more wars at all.
We do not need to support Russia anymore. or support
Ukraine in this war. It goes against, it's bankrupting us.
We need to focus on our own domestic policies, illegal immigration,
failing jobs, surging energy prices.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
This needs to be the focus.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
And so when you put pressure on a people economically,
typically they become more nationalistic.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
And so the AFD is tapping into this.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
This is also the same organization that last year Something
like seven, and I think that's correct. Well, look this
story up for me, Jordy, will you? They had seven
people who were running for re-election get murdered within a
couple weeks of their murder, died, strangely, in the weeks
leading up to their election. So the AFD is by
(43:21):
far the biggest threat to the current globalist European Union mentality. Uh,
that Angela Miller Merkel and the rest of the European
union burnt built over the last 30 years or 20
plus years. They are a threat to this. Um, you
know what, you got that story for me? How many people,
how many of them?
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, it was seven people.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
Um, Yeah, seven official and reserve candidates from the AFD
party passed away over a short two-week period leading up
to local elections in the North Rhine-Westphalia.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Region of Germany.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
That was in September 2025. Did it ever give, does
it get a conclusion of what these people died from
or anything like that?
Speaker 5 (44:07):
The official response says that the AFD regional leaders and
law enforcement urged the public to stop spreading unverified rumors
and respect the findings of the investigation. What were the causes?
Natural causes, long-term illness, health issues, and suicide. Okay, so
there you have it.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Respect it if, but it's kind of weird when you're
having elections and seven people in the party that's taken
has threat to take over the major party die, right?
I'm not saying anything nefarious took place, but it certainly
caused the make you go.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
That's an unlikely probability to hit.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
That's a really intense coincidence right there. Combine that with
all the attacks on them politically, judicially, how leaders from
other countries are going attacking these people as radical white
wing nut jobs, right? The modern day Nazis has been
(45:04):
said over and over and over. So I think as
you look at all of these things, tensions just seem
to be growing, growing, growing. You've got a long history
(45:24):
of the European Union and NATO being profound advocates for
Ukraine and Ukraine's war against Russia.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
It's for the heartbeat of democracy.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Well, we also see kind of the stalemate escalation slash, uh,
not quite thinking we had, uh, you know, uh, we're
not really getting to where, where the accomplishments we wanted
to get to in Iran. And so it's like, Where
(46:00):
do you get, again, I'll go back to the midterms
and the political, the elections coming up. What would you
do if you were running and your foreign policy or
domestic policy was the continuation of your people's taxed equivalent
(46:21):
being spent on these wars overseas that seemingly have a
negative impact on your way or quality of life.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
So what do you do?
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Well, if it were me, I would increase the concept
of threat analysis, right? Well, this thing's existential. If this
could pop at any minute, the rhetoric's going up on
the other side. They're actively trying to hurt us in
our own country now. There's a rise of, you know,
all these different ways. So what do you do in
order to make sure you can solidify your election and
(46:54):
stay in power to keep this thing going and rolling?
you generate a heightened sense of fear in your people. Unfortunately,
I think for many different countries, many different people who
are either directly or superfluously engaged when these conflicts, the
(47:14):
populations of these areas, these countries are becoming weary.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
That's what it looks like to me.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
So, you know, one of the things that, that you
have to watch is you have to watch, right? You
look at the strategic nature of the actual war, the strikes,
the responses, what's taking place. Like recently, Iran sent missiles
into Jordan at our bases. And what is they basically saying? Hey, look,
(47:46):
we're going to reach you all over the place. None
of your bases are safe. None of this is good.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
And what are they doing?
Speaker 2 (47:53):
They're building up a lack of morale in the military
and they're also, you know, demoralizing the American people saying
you're not in control of this thing, you know, and
it would appear that, uh, Russia is potentially engaged in similar, uh, similar, uh, tactics,
(48:14):
if you will. Um, so, you know, as I close
this out, um, one of the things that you have
to start to recognize is that, um, Diplomacy at these
levels and at these scale, right, typically needs to come
(48:36):
from a collective outside pressure, right?
Speaker 1 (48:41):
So where is it from Russia?
Speaker 2 (48:44):
I would love to see some other players get involved,
some other potentially Spain, Italy players, more of the, you know,
Eastern European countries kind of come together and say, this
is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
This is enough. Force the hand, right? That it's doing it.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Obviously, Trump said he was going to fix it in
the first week of being nominated. That's definitely not feasible.
It's not going to happen. I don't think we have
much political influence there. I think the Radcliffe meeting was
kind of this uh, bizarre flex or request or whatever.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Hey, slow down what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
So ours doesn't look as bad for the midterms, maybe
something like that. I don't know. Um, but what I
can tell you is that it seems like These regional
little skirmishes, or more than skirmishes, these are significant conflicts.
These are hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars that
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we've spent in Ukraine, hundreds and hundreds of billions of
dollars that we've spent in Iran, as well as the
European Union, billions, tens of billions of dollars, Israel spending
billions of dollars. All of these, the Gulf states are
probably spending billions of dollars purchasing defense systems for us.
(50:07):
It just seems like it's popping and the diplomacy is waning.
And all you got to do is listen to the
world leaders. They're literally telling you what their thoughts are.
And they're basically saying, well, we're not going to quit.
We're not going to end it. We can't. It's our
duty now. to the Iranian people. It's our duty to
(50:27):
our relationships with Israel. It's a duty to the middle East,
our partners there. It's our duty to the European union.
It's our duty, the Ukrainians. And then the other side
is saying literally the same thing to its people and
its relationships as well. And so, uh, my estimations are
that a lack of diplomacy, uh, intensifies And it's not
(50:49):
a stalemate. I don't feel like we're, I feel like
we're moving out of a stalemate into a kinetic escalation.
And unfortunately, uh, for all of us, that's going to
have a impact on us financially, obviously, whether it's through
more spending, more debt, uh, uh, disruptions in, in global
(51:10):
markets of some kind. And it's also going to have
political ramifications, right? What, when you have, uh, uh, When
you have conflicts taking place that go against people that
are tired, they feel economically oppressed or depressed, it funnels,
(51:31):
it flames the fire for revolutionary thinking, if you will.
And I think we're seeing that in the Democratic Party.
I think there's more aggressive talk on the far right
of the Republican Party. and far left of the Republican Party.
I mean, right now, both parties are at war with
(51:53):
each other in multiple ways. I almost see like five
or six different political parties emerging out of all this,
which is really fascinating. We'll do a show on that
here in the lead up to the midterms. But it's very,
very concerning that this no diplomacy or active, fertile diplomacy
(52:15):
is taking place and it's just more rhetoric of escalation.
So basically that's my assessment of what's taken place in
the last week or so. I hope that it's given
you some context to think about, to map it all
out a little bit more. It's incredibly complex. I'm struggling
(52:35):
to keep up with everything and all the pieces and
how they're connected for sure. I know you must be
as well too. So Geordie and I, our main mission is, again,
to bring some context to the tsunami of information and
to bring a little bit of my truth, which I
hope is as close to a rational assessment of the
(52:58):
situation as possible so that you can come to your
own conclusions and decide whether you think the U.S. is
engaged in the right foreign policy as well as our
partners in NATO and the European Union.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
All right.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
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