March 11, 2026 • 37 mins
Hour 1 of today’s Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers an in depth, fast moving breakdown of the escalating Iran crisis, ongoing questions surrounding Iran’s leadership, and the strategic posture of the United States under President Donald Trump. Clay and Buck open with the latest on the situation inside Iran, where reports and speculation swirl about the condition of Mojtaba Khamenei, son of the late Supreme Leader. The hosts analyze conflicting reports about whether he is alive, severely injured, or being hidden through staged appearances—including the now viral cardboard cutout moment. This leads to broader discussion about the power vacuum, succession uncertainty, and the future of the Iranian regime. The conversation digs deeply into U.S. military strategy, highlighting America’s aerial superiority and the ongoing targeting of key Iranian military assets. Clay and Buck argue that while the U.S. and Israel have significantly degraded Iran’s ability to wage war, regime change is not an explicit goal—despite widespread speculation. Without a viable ground force like the Kurds or a Northern Alliance–style proxy, the hosts contend that America cannot impose a governing alternative even as Iran’s military infrastructure collapses. They repeatedly emphasize Trump's stance—quoted via Axios—that “Anytime I want the war to end, it will end,” using it as context for understanding American leverage in the conflict. The show also examines Iran’s internal dynamics, including the brutality of the IRGC, paramilitary street militias, and the regime’s long history of killing dissidents—citing the mass killing of more than 30,000 protesters earlier this year. Clay and Buck describe how Iran strategically embeds assets inside schools, hospitals, and residential areas to manipulate international media coverage, knowing the Western press will frame defensive strikes as attacks on civilians. Political analysis runs throughout the hour, particularly the emerging foreign policy divide inside the Republican Party. Senator Josh Hawley’s call to “declare victory and end this thing” becomes a springboard for discussion about the GOP’s future direction—from America First non interventionists like Hawley and J.D. Vance to strongly pro Israel figures like Ted Cruz. The hosts also tie in comments from Mid East negotiator Steve Witkoff, who argues that Trump’s actions prevented Iran from reaching nuclear breakout capacity. In classic Clay & Buck fashion, the hour mixes geopolitical strategy with cultural commentary and media criticism. They dissect Whoopi Goldberg’s claim that the war is meant to distract from other controversies—including the Epstein files and the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping—and respond with sharp skepticism. They also critique The View for shutting out dissenting voices while praising former co host Elizabeth Hasselbeck for confronting the show’s political inconsistencies. The final segments pivot to listener emails, reflections on America’s long memory of the Iranian hostage crisis, and a brief touch on drone warfare, with the hosts noting how technological advances have reshaped modern conflict, allowing major strikes without risking U.S. pilots. Sports fans also get quick hits on the World Baseball Classic, March Madness, and a standout 83 point NBA performance, before the show tees up upcoming discussion on President Trump and additional breaking news in Hour 2.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in. We are rolling into the
Wednesday edition from all signs pointing towards Iran, continuing what
exactly is going to happen there? We will give you
the absolute latest good numbers on inflation, oil and gas prices.
(00:24):
The number one story, I would say right now in
at MSNBC and let's see not the case at CNN
or at Fox News. Doing all my reading getting ready
for the show today, what stood out to me is
(00:46):
several different things that I want to dive into with
Buck here off the top, but there are quotes from
President Trump via Axios a conversation that he had and
I grabbed. One of those quotes is not audio, but
President Trump told Axios anytime I want the war to end,
(01:08):
it will end UH and Buck, I think that is
likely true. And here is to me still the big
question that we have been asking since this all started.
Who is the acceptable leader for Iran that would allow
this UH situation in Iran to end in some way
(01:30):
with the understanding that we would now at least the
Iranians would know that at any point in time we
could decapitate their leader. If this son of Kamene is
still alive, Moktaba or however you pronounce his name.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
If.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Taba like much tabah. If he's still alive, I have
not an accent.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Guy.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I can't do accents. I can do do my voice,
and that's pretty much it. So if he he's still alive,
which I think is very much in question because they're
dancing around with cardboard cutouts of him. If you didn't
see that as the representation of their new leader, here
is what I would say, if he is still alive
(02:14):
and if he is able to recover, because there are
reports that if he is still alive, that he is
severely injured and was harmed quite a lot in the
blast that took place to begin this onslaught in Iran.
His dad, his son, his wife, and his mom were
reportedly all killed in the one of those opening attacks.
(02:38):
Let me just put this to you, Buck and to
all of you out there, would you be very fond
or willing to work in an expeditious and pleasing fashion
if a country killed your dad, your mom, your wife,
and your son. I would submit to you that if
he is still alive, it is a non starter that
(02:59):
he could be the leader left in charge in Iran,
because I would not blame him. I would want America
to die on a level that, frankly, or any other
country that did this, on a level that would burn
in my soul for the rest of my life. I
think this could actually be worse because it's you know,
you wounded, you didn't kill a terrorist. That doesn't seem
(03:21):
my deal there. You've done a lot of this study
terrorists who are wounded and don't die often end up
being the most virulent of terrorists in their future years.
So I would start with this, Him being in charge
is unacceptable. And so I don't know if we have
a leader that is acceptable, but I would say if
he's alive, he is an unacceptable heir to the Iranian leadership.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I think that we have seen the total military intelligence
and particularly aerial superiority of the United States and Israel
on display and substantial, a substantial diminishing of Iranian capability,
particularly to make war of any kind outside of its
(04:08):
own borders. I am not seeing anything about there's some
other faction or some other group that could theoretically oversee
a transition take over, and so what I think is
going to continue to be the case. Clay is, we
have our Department of War and Secretary of Hegseth and
(04:30):
Trump degrading Iranian military capability and taking out seeenior targets.
I do not see how this turns into a different
regime at the end of it, and I felt that
way the whole time. I now perhaps that is what
was baked in all along. We're being told that regime
change was never The administration is saying regime change was
(04:51):
not the goal. Okay, you're taking out all the leadership
in this country, and then you're going to have, to
your point, perhaps a more virulent leadership coming right.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
There, and he justified furious, like, leave aside the politics again.
Everybody out there, just think if someone you knew killed
your mom, your dad, your son, and your wife, would
you be likely to work in a positive manner with
that country or that group. Ever, I think the answer
is no.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, that's obviously the correct assessment on that. So I
think we're gonna have a declare victory and cease aerial
hostilities moment here within the next couple of weeks. I
don't know when exactly. I'm obviously not on the high side.
As we used to say, I don't have access to
classified or any of that, and if I did, I
(05:43):
wouldn't be talking about it here on radio. But my
sense is that they're just going to realize the problem
with our position on all this. Our military position is
that if you can't force, if you don't have a
ground force, can't force change on the ground, and that
(06:03):
is where we are. There is no Northern Alliance to
work with the Kurds. There's not enough of them. They
don't want to get I mean, they can't run the
whole country, and that's a non started. Notice. People talked
about the Curds for about twenty four hours until they
took out a map and learned the basic demographics. We
had that guy who was a military military advisor in
northern Iraq, one of our listeners. He wrote in and said, yeah,
(06:25):
you're right, Yeah, of course I was up there too.
I know the mindset of the Kurds with this stuff.
They don't want any part of trying to police the
rest of Iran. They couldn't do it on top of
all that. So I don't see. I don't see the
way that this ends with a hopeful new future for Iran.
(06:46):
I see this as we have defanged the snake, but
there are gonna be little baby snakes that grow fangs
in time after this. That's how I don't see what
the alternative is.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
There also is the question, and I think this matters too,
and I believe we have a cut of this of
other people talking about something that is being speculated quite significantly.
It is is the son actually alive? In other words,
is this potentially an opportunity that Iran has taken to
(07:19):
try and prevent the new leader from getting killed by
actually elevating a leader who's already dead. And there's audio
of that. I want to play that in a sec
But Buck the other part of this is if he
is still alive, he may be protected from being able
to be attacked because if they have him in a hospital,
it's hard to take out someone in a hospital without
(07:41):
killing a lot of other people. And then the same
media that didn't care when Iran killed thirty thousand people
is suddenly going to be leading stories with look at
Israel in the United States targeting people in hospitals, or
they got the guy being treated. As you're starting to see,
Iran has moved whatever assets they have remaining for the state,
(08:04):
into schools, into residential areas, so that when we are
attempting to strike these assets, then they immediately cry, oh, look,
they're just targeting innocence, as if this regime has any
moral authority at all, given the fact that they killed
over thirty thousand protesters just in the beginning of this year.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
We've seen this in authoritarian Muslim Mid East states for decades,
where the regime in charge. You have to remember, the
regime in charge not only disallows there to be a
political opposition, they also recognize if they lose power. I mean,
(08:46):
you just talked about the thirty thousand protesters killed in
the streets. Yes, you got to think if you are
a member of the besiege, which is the which is
the Islamic Revolutions militia, if you will this sort of
street militia, street thug. They had a very similar thing
in Syria, I might have called the Shabiha. This is
a common thing. You have the military, which you make
(09:07):
sure is ideologically committed and radicalized to the overall cause
of Islamism jihadism, and then below that you have this
paramilitary organization that's meant to know block to block, house
to house who's doing what? And they have the total
blessing of the state to be as vicious and disgusting
(09:27):
and tyrannical as they want, as long as it's serving
the interests of the state play those individuals. You have
to always remember this though. I know we've said there's
an amnesty for the IRGC. Okay, well, that means that
we're saying put down your arms and we won't blow
you up. You brought up what happens if someone kills
your you know, your wife, your your your parents, your kids,
all of the above, you're gonna forget that. You're gonna
(09:50):
if you're now part of the new regime, you're going
to say, hey, when you guys killed those thirty thousand protesters,
you know what, let's let bygones be bygones.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Know.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
In fact, the Kadafi effect is you better stay in
power or you may up with a bayonet in a
very uncomfortable place. Yeah, like, bad things happen. And so
it's zero sum for the people inmy Iran who have
been running the country. You got America killing their leadership,
and you've got whatever the opposition on the street could be.
(10:21):
The Iranian street if you will, if they come into power,
they at a minimum you got to think you might
be going to prison in some hell hole, and maybe
even worse than that. So my point, Clay is they'll
fight to the very end. There's no off ramp for
them as far as they see. And that's not even
taking into account the ideological commitment to stopping the Crusaders
and Jews and all the you know, death to America,
(10:43):
Great Satan stuff. That's just the basic card, cold hard
political reality of the situation they face, which is why
I was hoping that we would start to see a
oh wow, there is some kind of door number two here,
or there is something that they've got planned, and no,
we're just completely annihilating their military capacity. And then I
(11:05):
think we're going to stop, and then we might have
to do this again. It's gonna be like mowing the grass,
but it's a lot more expensive and human and monetary
costs than mowing the grass.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
And also again the question becomes, who is even leading Iran?
And I think this is the question. The new Supreme
Leader who they trotted out with cardboard cutout at the rally,
which doesn't suggest that he's actually that help healthy. Yeah,
that's like the opposite of a proof of life when
they have the cardboard cutout of you at the rally. No, No,
that doesn't look a lot of you also were laughing
(11:39):
in the comments. You were saying, Hey, maybe we shouldn't
criticize Iran that much about showing up with a cardboard
cutout since we effectively had a cardboard cutout president for
four years, which is, yeah, very fair point. But here's
the Washington Post Jason Rezihan saying, what I think is
really being contemplated at a significant way level. Is this
(12:00):
guy even alive? Cut twelve.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I wasn't super surprised by his election. There's been a
lot of talk that he might succeed his father when
his father died. This speculation has been around for more
than a decade. I also wonder if the fact that
we haven't seen him indicates that he might not be alive.
I mean, I don't think that there's a clear indication
(12:23):
that anyone has spoken to him. The President of Iran,
mass Possess Kon said today that neither he nor anyone
else in his government had spoken with the younger comedy
since he was appointed Supreme Leader on Sunday. So there's
still so much confusion around this.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And Buckett could be again an opportunity to make it
seem as if he is the leader when it makes
it harder to target the actual leader. And there may
be a relatively only handful of people that even know
whether he's alive or not. But when you name a
new Supreme leader and he isn't going to be, that
definitely raises questions about what his health actually is.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
We'll take your calls on this one. It's getting the
point where I think a lot of people are running
out of patients on the plan here, whatever it may be.
And I mean people who support Trump. I'm not talking
about Trump haters, but maybe look, the polling has said
this pretty consistently, Clay, as long as this is done
this month, people are like, Okay, maybe it was necessary.
(13:30):
They know they're on a time Our team is on
a timeline with this, and it's a tight timeline. All right,
we'll get back to it in a second.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
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(13:58):
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really kind of amazing to see. They've designed them so
that the parking garages can be the hospital itself. In
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Speaker 2 (15:16):
Okay, why are we bombing the you know what out
of Iran? What are we doing over there? What caused
this to happen? Steve Witkoff, who is a senior Trump
midiast negotiator, he says the file this is called nine Guys.
He says the following about why we had to do
(15:38):
this and had to do this now it.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Think about what this world would look like if you
didn't have Donald Trump as the president. Because in the year,
if you had someone who didn't have the courage to
do this action, you'd have thirty or forty nuclear.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Bombs and what would the world look like there?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
So thank god we have a president and leadership at
the helm that makes these courageous decisions.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Thirty or forty nuclear bombs if Trump didn't do this. Now,
this is where it gets for a lot of people.
We've been hearing that Iran's gonna have nukes for a
long time. I think Iran wants nukes. I think the
Amulas are evil, Like I'm I'm very aligned with the
administration's view of Iran.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
On.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I'm just saying, Clay, it becomes a little trickier to
sell people on the imminence of this threat when we've
been hearing and there are eclipse circulating of net Nyahutak.
We've been hearing, you know, within within sixty days, they're
going to have within three weeks, within four months. For
twenty years, we've been hearing this, and this is why,
this is why I think, Josh, here, let me see
the Josh Holly thing. We can come back, and here's
(16:41):
Josh Holly saying it's time declared victory and get out
of this play seven.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
What is there really that's left to do that we
haven't already done. I mean, we have demonstrated to the
world and anybody who's watching by the way, that we
have overwhelming military superiority and we know how to use it.
We have totally destroyed forever their nuclear we have destroyed
their ballistic missiles, we have destroyed their navy. I mean,
this has been a total success in whatever it's been
(17:07):
eleven days. And I thought the president's remarks last night
that he could declare victory today and it would.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Be a one victory. I think it's true.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I think we ought to say to our heroes, thank
you for a job well done. This has been absolutely amazing,
it's been astounding, it's been historic, and now it's time
to declare victory.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
All right, Claire, I want your take on where Holly
is with this when we come back, because declar victory
and you know and move on. Is we're here. Hally
is a Trump guy, to be clear, He's been a
Trump guy all along. So this is what you get
from somebody who's aligned with the administration. I'm not sure
the administration doesn't also feel this, or Trump saying he
can end it at any time. It's going to end soon.
(17:46):
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Speaker 1 (19:30):
We were just talking about the command age situation, moch Taba,
his son, whether or not he is alive or not.
We're also playing some of the audio for you of
Josh Holly, who is saying, hey, let's declare victory. And
in this thing, there is actually on the prediction markets
buck a wager right now will moch Taba, that is,
(19:54):
the ostensible new leader of Iran be seen in public
by the end of the month. It's basically fifty to fifty.
So for those of you out there, I mean we're
still relatively early into March. For those of you out
there that are skeptical, I would put myself into this
camp about whether or not he is in fact alive.
(20:15):
The fact that we may or may not see him
for the entire month of March is a sign that
something might well be going on. That is, either he's
severely injured or he is not even alive and they're
trying to protect from having somebody else get taken out
on Josh Holly. Missouri Senator Josh Hally's been on this
(20:36):
program a lot. I know him, I like him. I
think he's going to run for president buck and so
I think some of the statements that you're seeing that
are occurring out here, you should consider them as almost
an early audition for the twenty twenty eight primary. And
let me explain.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
So.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
First of all, I think declaring victory and saying hey,
we've gotten everything we need to get done, is what
is going to happen. I would say at some point
in March. I think you and I probably agree. When
exactly that will be, I think remains to be seen.
But think about the jostling and the jockeying that is
going to go on. We don't know what's gonna happen.
There's a front page article today about Trump increasingly asking people, hey,
(21:20):
do you like Marco Rubio or jd Vance? Better? Setting
up We were talking about this off air and apprentice
style runoff for who is Trump going to endorse. I
think that Trump will play this for everything it's worth,
and we'll see what happens between JD Vance and Marco Rubio.
I would be stunned beyond belief if Senator Ted Cruz
(21:43):
of Texas doesn't run, and increasingly Josh Holly might while
well run too. And so I think you can start
looking at this and say, Okay, what is the lane?
What is the lane under which they might run? And
I'll give you a couple of takes here on how
I see this developing. Ted Cruz sees himself, I think
(22:08):
as the foremost defender of Israel in the Republican Party
right now. I mean, leaving aside Lindsey Graham, who's just
totally out to crazy town on wanting to go to
war with everybody, but so Ted Cruz, I think, sees
himself as opposed directly to what I would say is
the Ted Cruz, sorry, the Tucker Carlson JD Vance wing,
(22:33):
which I think he's trying to define. It seems clear
to me Cruz is going at Tucker Carlson. There's firing
back at each other and trying to say Tucker is
anti Israel and Ted Cruz pro Israel, and so that
battleground is happening. I think he sees Elaine there. Josh Hawley,
I think sees a lane as being the completely anti
(22:54):
intervention wing of the Republican Party, which is a lot
of you out there in this group. I don't want
to do anything external at all. I want to focus
one hundred percent on America, and I would say that
that Marco Rubio and Jade Vance are somewhere in that
grouping two. So I do think the story beyond the
(23:14):
story here is Josh Holly is saying, Hey, it's time
to declare victory. This is Josh Holly trying to brand himself,
I think intelligently as the anti interventionist wing of the
Republican Party to potentially lay the groundwork for his presidential
ambitions in twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Do you see that like?
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I think we agree that at some point Trump is
going to declare victory. But I think Holly speaking out
in this way is about trying to establish what his
lane would be if he is going to run in
twenty eight. He's going to try to pick up the
mantle of I am America First. That is my lane,
no New Wars everything. I think that's what he'll run on.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I think you're right about the Holly political assessment as
it pertains to him in his future. I also think
he's just concerned about where this goes if this continues
on for the Republican Party. And this may sound hokey
corny to some people, but for the country I think
there are concerns about what can happen here if the
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mission set drags on, or if there is a lack
of clarity about what can be accomplished with what we're
willing to do, and that's really the main thing here.
Could we bring about regime change in Iran? Absolutely if
we're willing to do things that we absolutely should not do.
That would require a lot of American investment and lives
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and time and effort, nightmarish levels of those things. So
we don't want to do that. So since we don't
want to do that, since we have a limited goal
in this context of military intervention, let's keep it nice
and limited. Got got to keep this thing tight, can't
let it spill over. And I think that's what Josh
(25:00):
Holly saying, and I think others are seeing this too,
because if there was some big other part of the
plan than just blowing the crap out of all the
Iranian military stuff and their leadership, Okay, I think we
would start to see that by now. I could be wrong.
Maybe next week I come on and say, oh wow, look,
(25:21):
I think it's highly highly unlikely at this point, So
that means we all I think it would also be
good to give us some sense as to what the
military is. The military objective, Clay, just to leave Iran
as toothless as a military course as possible. And then
how close are we to that? Are we seventy five
percent of the way there? Are we more like, you know,
(25:43):
thirty forty percent of the way there? Well, what I
think we're probably more like seventy five percent. So that's
that indicates to me that this thing could wrap up soon.
But I'm actually with Josh Holly on the it should
wrap up soon. I mean the whole declaring victory thing,
and yeah, we know we won. Obviously they don't even
have a military left. But enough is enough.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
President Trump is taking questions right now on the south
lawn of the White House. We will pay attention to that.
It's being carried live on every network. He did say earlier,
Buck another quote, war will end soon. This is according
to Axios, there is practically nothing left to target, which
(26:24):
I mean the mission goes directly to the mission has
been has been completed. My concern, my concern we started
off the show talking about it is I don't think
we can leave this guy moch Tabak moch Tabi Kamene
in charge. I just and Buck's gonna love my pronunce.
You're not team. We can't leave Little Moe. We can't
(26:46):
leave Little Moe to go full Trump here. We can't
leave Little Moe in charge because I just if again,
whatever your background is, I just I believe in venja.
I believe in anger and revenge. Whatever your background is,
listening to us right now. If your dad, your mom,
(27:07):
your wife, and your son all got killed by someone,
would you ever shake hands with them for the rest
of your life and work to make the world a
better place. No, I bet almost all of you would
be hell bent on the vengeance for that act being
done to your family. I don't think we leave aside
the religion, leave aside the everything else. There's no way
this guy is a functional leader that benefits America. He
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cannot be in charge.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
There is a really important piece of the geopolitical analysis
here that we haven't taken into account yet, and I
think that's at some level that's just on us. We
have to deal with a lot here. We're trying to
bring things all together. But whoopee. Goldberg has weighed in
on the situation, and I almost speak she has a
(27:54):
take for us here about what's really going on? And
oh she's tying in and Epstein and Nancy Guthrie. This
is quite a take everybody on the Iran aerial campaign
play thirteen.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
It's just nutty as hell. It's nutty as hell. Yeah,
and you're right, every day is something new, and it's
you know, I was thinking about it yesterday because I thought, well, Okay,
why haven't we been talking about Savannah Guthrie and what's
going on?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Then?
Speaker 6 (28:25):
Why have we not been talking about the Epstein.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Files because that's still there.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Yeah, this has meant to get us so worked up
that we are unable to see anything out.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
The Kissinger of our era, Whoopy Goldberg with Clay Trump
is bombing the crap out of Iran, so that we're
not talking about Nancy Guthrie's kidnapping. We didn't take this
into account at the start of the show. Perhaps we
need to reassess our analysis.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I look at this and she is a moron, right,
But I don't think most people look to the Star
of Ghost if I remember correctly, and the Color Purple
as the most savvy political analyst of our time. The
fact that the crowd clapped when she said that is
I think more of an indictment than will be Goldberg's
(29:18):
awful decision. And so I can't believe that this is
real and that ABC News would continue to support this show,
which is just political propaganda. And every time we play
a clip from the View, we should probably mention that
we have both offered to go on the View. It
would have been made great sense for your book coming out,
(29:40):
for my book coming outs promotion to an audience that
otherwise might not see it. They won't allow reasonably intelligent
people who disagree with them by and large to go
on because they know that their arguments and their argued
ers are ultimately not very smart. And I will give
credit Elizabeth Hasselbeck what I don't think we played the cut.
(30:01):
She used to be on the show, if I remember correctly.
She lives here in Nashville. Her husband's good football coach,
and so I know them, and she did a great
job actually arguing with some of the some of the
hosts on the show. I think they were talking about
the save act Buck and she actually called out the
(30:23):
audience and said, how many of you had to provide
ID to be able to come watch this show today?
And like the whole audience raises their hand. I mean,
I do think you know the idea that it is racist.
It was it racist of the view to require ID
to come watch their show. It's such a ridiculous argument
against it. We're going to talk about Tommy Tampervill Senator about.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
This in a little bit. But I think you're missing
the forest for the trees here. Republicans want to talk
about the Save America Act so that we're not talking
about the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping. According to Wipe Goldberg, that's
where we are, that's our big plan.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
I will say, the Nancy Guthrier kidnapping is still really weird,
and I have still been following, of course.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
But I don't think that Trump is trying to cover
it up by starting a war in a foreign country.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Why. It's crazy. Also, it's a crazy take because Trump
isn't responsible for the Nancy Dancy Guthrie story, right. She
at least followed it up by saying the Epstein steam five,
which is actually something you're hearing some people say on
the left. But I haven't heard anybody suggest prior to
whoopee hey, the reason we went to war is so
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we're not talking about the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping. And again,
I just come back on the view buck. They have
huge staffs of people pitching them ideas all day long,
every day. All you have to have to do that
show is an IQ of forty six, because they're coming
to you on a regular basis saying, hey, here's a take,
(31:55):
here's a take, here's three articles you need to read
to be somewhat informed on. And they won't do the
bare minimum. How much prep do you think will be
Goldberg does for that show? Six minutes a day, Like
she shows up, gets her makeup done, has a conversation
with her makeup artist. I guarant I don't even know
if she reads the newspaper. I mean, it's actually an
(32:16):
insult to the audience how little she actually spends prepping
before she gets paid millions of dollars to go share
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Speaker 2 (33:36):
A lot of emails, a lot of talkbacks pouring in here,
particularly on the Iran situation. VIP email from Tony Buck.
Your assessment is spot on. War is a clash of wills.
You cannot defeat an adversary through aerial bombardment. Only historical
examples are endless German bombardment of the Britz, Battle of Britain,
North Vietnam, massive B fifty two carpet bombing. Sometimes when
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civilian casualties occur can strengthen resolve. I'm retired now, but
I predicted early on this campaign about degrading Iran's capabilities.
It has never been about regime change. If that is
an accidental byproduct, so be it, Tony. I agree with
you that I think that's why administration feels too. We're
opening the door for the Iranians to throw the bums out,
but they don't do it. They don't do it. We're
just making sure that they can't hit us.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
We're gonna be build on that.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
One thing that I do think is changing is the
degree to which we can specifically target using drones is changing.
Every war advances technology at a rapid scale, and I
think what's happened with Ukraine and Russia. If you read
about that war now, Buck, they're almost conducting the entire
war via drone like you can't even go outside and
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be seen at all because they will take you out.
And I think the mechanized nature of this war and
future wars is going to be so much different than anything.
We can comprehend that boots on the ground is going
to become much less commonplace.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Period. Well, it also is a reminder that the calculation
is different when you're sending drones to do this stuff
than when you're sending pilots. The American people can handle
a lot of drones getting blown out of the sky,
and that hasn't even been happening. But I'm saying we
can handle a lot of our drone We lose drones, Okay,
it's expensive. The second we have a pilot on video
(35:22):
who is giving his name, rank and serial number. Things
change real fast. We feel very differently. Other think is
basic human emotion. I think that's very understandable. So that's
a big difference in the calculation. Here VIP email from
Larry as a member of the Naval Carrier Task Group
during the release of the hostages during the Iranian hostage crisis.
I've been waiting for payback for forty six years. President
(35:43):
Trump knows he has a timeline and mandates from his base,
which is always on his mind to protect Americans and
his America First agenda. Larry, I hope that's totally spot
on again. I'm just voicing the unease that some have
with Okay, this is going on, when does it stop?
It's Trump's call about when it stops, and he's clearly
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got his eyes very closely affixed to that.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
That's really astute email, Buck, because I do think there's
probably a generational divide. You and I are we're not
born and we're not young enough don't remember the hostage crisis,
and so I think for people who are in their
sixties seventies, who live through the hostage crisis, who live
through the bombings that have taken place that Iran has
helped to make happen, it's different than if you're thirty
(36:31):
today than if you're sixty five today in terms of
what you've experienced of the evilness of the Iranian regime.
Younger people don't have as much of a tangible connection
to it. Really good emails both, I think there and
we appreciate the VIP emails that we get all the time.
We come back. Buck, you've got us off the top.
I'm sure we're going to continue to talk about Iran.
(36:52):
President Trump. We've got a couple of cuts from him
just now as he was outside the White House.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
And another super rich lib Starbucks CEO moving to Florida.
Clay talk about it.
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in. We are rolling into the
Wednesday edition from all signs pointing towards Iran, continuing what
exactly is going to happen there? We will give you
the absolute latest good numbers on inflation, oil and gas prices.
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The number one story, I would say right now in
at MSNBC and let's see not the case at CNN
or at Fox News. Doing all my reading getting ready
for the show today, what stood out to me is
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several different things that I want to dive into with
Buck here off the top, but there are quotes from
President Trump via Axios a conversation that he had and
I grabbed. One of those quotes is not audio, but
President Trump told Axios anytime I want the war to end,
(01:08):
it will end UH and Buck, I think that is
likely true. And here is to me still the big
question that we have been asking since this all started.
Who is the acceptable leader for Iran that would allow
this UH situation in Iran to end in some way
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with the understanding that we would now at least the
Iranians would know that at any point in time we
could decapitate their leader. If this son of Kamene is
still alive, Moktaba or however you pronounce his name.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
If.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Taba like much tabah. If he's still alive, I have
not an accent.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Guy.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I can't do accents. I can do do my voice,
and that's pretty much it. So if he he's still alive,
which I think is very much in question because they're
dancing around with cardboard cutouts of him. If you didn't
see that as the representation of their new leader, here
is what I would say, if he is still alive
(02:14):
and if he is able to recover, because there are
reports that if he is still alive, that he is
severely injured and was harmed quite a lot in the
blast that took place to begin this onslaught in Iran.
His dad, his son, his wife, and his mom were
reportedly all killed in the one of those opening attacks.
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Let me just put this to you, Buck and to
all of you out there, would you be very fond
or willing to work in an expeditious and pleasing fashion
if a country killed your dad, your mom, your wife,
and your son. I would submit to you that if
he is still alive, it is a non starter that
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he could be the leader left in charge in Iran,
because I would not blame him. I would want America
to die on a level that, frankly, or any other
country that did this, on a level that would burn
in my soul for the rest of my life. I
think this could actually be worse because it's you know,
you wounded, you didn't kill a terrorist. That doesn't seem
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my deal there. You've done a lot of this study
terrorists who are wounded and don't die often end up
being the most virulent of terrorists in their future years.
So I would start with this, Him being in charge
is unacceptable. And so I don't know if we have
a leader that is acceptable, but I would say if
he's alive, he is an unacceptable heir to the Iranian leadership.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I think that we have seen the total military intelligence
and particularly aerial superiority of the United States and Israel
on display and substantial, a substantial diminishing of Iranian capability,
particularly to make war of any kind outside of its
(04:08):
own borders. I am not seeing anything about there's some
other faction or some other group that could theoretically oversee
a transition take over, and so what I think is
going to continue to be the case. Clay is, we
have our Department of War and Secretary of Hegseth and
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Trump degrading Iranian military capability and taking out seeenior targets.
I do not see how this turns into a different
regime at the end of it, and I felt that
way the whole time. I now perhaps that is what
was baked in all along. We're being told that regime
change was never The administration is saying regime change was
(04:51):
not the goal. Okay, you're taking out all the leadership
in this country, and then you're going to have, to
your point, perhaps a more virulent leadership coming right.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
There, and he justified furious, like, leave aside the politics again.
Everybody out there, just think if someone you knew killed
your mom, your dad, your son, and your wife, would
you be likely to work in a positive manner with
that country or that group. Ever, I think the answer
is no.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, that's obviously the correct assessment on that. So I
think we're gonna have a declare victory and cease aerial
hostilities moment here within the next couple of weeks. I
don't know when exactly. I'm obviously not on the high side.
As we used to say, I don't have access to
classified or any of that, and if I did, I
(05:43):
wouldn't be talking about it here on radio. But my
sense is that they're just going to realize the problem
with our position on all this. Our military position is
that if you can't force, if you don't have a
ground force, can't force change on the ground, and that
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is where we are. There is no Northern Alliance to
work with the Kurds. There's not enough of them. They
don't want to get I mean, they can't run the
whole country, and that's a non started. Notice. People talked
about the Curds for about twenty four hours until they
took out a map and learned the basic demographics. We
had that guy who was a military military advisor in
northern Iraq, one of our listeners. He wrote in and said, yeah,
(06:25):
you're right, Yeah, of course I was up there too.
I know the mindset of the Kurds with this stuff.
They don't want any part of trying to police the
rest of Iran. They couldn't do it on top of
all that. So I don't see. I don't see the
way that this ends with a hopeful new future for Iran.
(06:46):
I see this as we have defanged the snake, but
there are gonna be little baby snakes that grow fangs
in time after this. That's how I don't see what
the alternative is.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
There also is the question, and I think this matters too,
and I believe we have a cut of this of
other people talking about something that is being speculated quite significantly.
It is is the son actually alive? In other words,
is this potentially an opportunity that Iran has taken to
(07:19):
try and prevent the new leader from getting killed by
actually elevating a leader who's already dead. And there's audio
of that. I want to play that in a sec
But Buck the other part of this is if he
is still alive, he may be protected from being able
to be attacked because if they have him in a hospital,
it's hard to take out someone in a hospital without
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killing a lot of other people. And then the same
media that didn't care when Iran killed thirty thousand people
is suddenly going to be leading stories with look at
Israel in the United States targeting people in hospitals, or
they got the guy being treated. As you're starting to see,
Iran has moved whatever assets they have remaining for the state,
(08:04):
into schools, into residential areas, so that when we are
attempting to strike these assets, then they immediately cry, oh, look,
they're just targeting innocence, as if this regime has any
moral authority at all, given the fact that they killed
over thirty thousand protesters just in the beginning of this year.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
We've seen this in authoritarian Muslim Mid East states for decades,
where the regime in charge. You have to remember, the
regime in charge not only disallows there to be a
political opposition, they also recognize if they lose power. I mean,
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you just talked about the thirty thousand protesters killed in
the streets. Yes, you got to think if you are
a member of the besiege, which is the which is
the Islamic Revolutions militia, if you will this sort of
street militia, street thug. They had a very similar thing
in Syria, I might have called the Shabiha. This is
a common thing. You have the military, which you make
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sure is ideologically committed and radicalized to the overall cause
of Islamism jihadism, and then below that you have this
paramilitary organization that's meant to know block to block, house
to house who's doing what? And they have the total
blessing of the state to be as vicious and disgusting
(09:27):
and tyrannical as they want, as long as it's serving
the interests of the state play those individuals. You have
to always remember this though. I know we've said there's
an amnesty for the IRGC. Okay, well, that means that
we're saying put down your arms and we won't blow
you up. You brought up what happens if someone kills
your you know, your wife, your your your parents, your kids,
all of the above, you're gonna forget that. You're gonna
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if you're now part of the new regime, you're going
to say, hey, when you guys killed those thirty thousand protesters,
you know what, let's let bygones be bygones.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Know.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
In fact, the Kadafi effect is you better stay in
power or you may up with a bayonet in a
very uncomfortable place. Yeah, like, bad things happen. And so
it's zero sum for the people inmy Iran who have
been running the country. You got America killing their leadership,
and you've got whatever the opposition on the street could be.
(10:21):
The Iranian street if you will, if they come into power,
they at a minimum you got to think you might
be going to prison in some hell hole, and maybe
even worse than that. So my point, Clay is they'll
fight to the very end. There's no off ramp for
them as far as they see. And that's not even
taking into account the ideological commitment to stopping the Crusaders
and Jews and all the you know, death to America,
(10:43):
Great Satan stuff. That's just the basic card, cold hard
political reality of the situation they face, which is why
I was hoping that we would start to see a
oh wow, there is some kind of door number two here,
or there is something that they've got planned, and no,
we're just completely annihilating their military capacity. And then I
(11:05):
think we're going to stop, and then we might have
to do this again. It's gonna be like mowing the grass,
but it's a lot more expensive and human and monetary
costs than mowing the grass.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
And also again the question becomes, who is even leading Iran?
And I think this is the question. The new Supreme
Leader who they trotted out with cardboard cutout at the rally,
which doesn't suggest that he's actually that help healthy. Yeah,
that's like the opposite of a proof of life when
they have the cardboard cutout of you at the rally. No, No,
that doesn't look a lot of you also were laughing
(11:39):
in the comments. You were saying, Hey, maybe we shouldn't
criticize Iran that much about showing up with a cardboard
cutout since we effectively had a cardboard cutout president for
four years, which is, yeah, very fair point. But here's
the Washington Post Jason Rezihan saying, what I think is
really being contemplated at a significant way level. Is this
(12:00):
guy even alive? Cut twelve.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I wasn't super surprised by his election. There's been a
lot of talk that he might succeed his father when
his father died. This speculation has been around for more
than a decade. I also wonder if the fact that
we haven't seen him indicates that he might not be alive.
I mean, I don't think that there's a clear indication
(12:23):
that anyone has spoken to him. The President of Iran,
mass Possess Kon said today that neither he nor anyone
else in his government had spoken with the younger comedy
since he was appointed Supreme Leader on Sunday. So there's
still so much confusion around this.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And Buckett could be again an opportunity to make it
seem as if he is the leader when it makes
it harder to target the actual leader. And there may
be a relatively only handful of people that even know
whether he's alive or not. But when you name a
new Supreme leader and he isn't going to be, that
definitely raises questions about what his health actually is.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
We'll take your calls on this one. It's getting the
point where I think a lot of people are running
out of patients on the plan here, whatever it may be.
And I mean people who support Trump. I'm not talking
about Trump haters, but maybe look, the polling has said
this pretty consistently, Clay, as long as this is done
this month, people are like, Okay, maybe it was necessary.
(13:30):
They know they're on a time Our team is on
a timeline with this, and it's a tight timeline. All right,
we'll get back to it in a second.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
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Speaker 2 (15:16):
Okay, why are we bombing the you know what out
of Iran? What are we doing over there? What caused
this to happen? Steve Witkoff, who is a senior Trump
midiast negotiator, he says the file this is called nine Guys.
He says the following about why we had to do
(15:38):
this and had to do this now it.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Think about what this world would look like if you
didn't have Donald Trump as the president. Because in the year,
if you had someone who didn't have the courage to
do this action, you'd have thirty or forty nuclear.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Bombs and what would the world look like there?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
So thank god we have a president and leadership at
the helm that makes these courageous decisions.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Thirty or forty nuclear bombs if Trump didn't do this. Now,
this is where it gets for a lot of people.
We've been hearing that Iran's gonna have nukes for a
long time. I think Iran wants nukes. I think the
Amulas are evil, Like I'm I'm very aligned with the
administration's view of Iran.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
On.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I'm just saying, Clay, it becomes a little trickier to
sell people on the imminence of this threat when we've
been hearing and there are eclipse circulating of net Nyahutak.
We've been hearing, you know, within within sixty days, they're
going to have within three weeks, within four months. For
twenty years, we've been hearing this, and this is why,
this is why I think, Josh, here, let me see
the Josh Holly thing. We can come back, and here's
(16:41):
Josh Holly saying it's time declared victory and get out
of this play seven.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
What is there really that's left to do that we
haven't already done. I mean, we have demonstrated to the
world and anybody who's watching by the way, that we
have overwhelming military superiority and we know how to use it.
We have totally destroyed forever their nuclear we have destroyed
their ballistic missiles, we have destroyed their navy. I mean,
this has been a total success in whatever it's been
(17:07):
eleven days. And I thought the president's remarks last night
that he could declare victory today and it would.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Be a one victory. I think it's true.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I think we ought to say to our heroes, thank
you for a job well done. This has been absolutely amazing,
it's been astounding, it's been historic, and now it's time
to declare victory.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
All right, Claire, I want your take on where Holly
is with this when we come back, because declar victory
and you know and move on. Is we're here. Hally
is a Trump guy, to be clear, He's been a
Trump guy all along. So this is what you get
from somebody who's aligned with the administration. I'm not sure
the administration doesn't also feel this, or Trump saying he
can end it at any time. It's going to end soon.
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Speaker 1 (19:30):
We were just talking about the command age situation, moch Taba,
his son, whether or not he is alive or not.
We're also playing some of the audio for you of
Josh Holly, who is saying, hey, let's declare victory. And
in this thing, there is actually on the prediction markets
buck a wager right now will moch Taba, that is,
(19:54):
the ostensible new leader of Iran be seen in public
by the end of the month. It's basically fifty to fifty.
So for those of you out there, I mean we're
still relatively early into March. For those of you out
there that are skeptical, I would put myself into this
camp about whether or not he is in fact alive.
(20:15):
The fact that we may or may not see him
for the entire month of March is a sign that
something might well be going on. That is, either he's
severely injured or he is not even alive and they're
trying to protect from having somebody else get taken out
on Josh Holly. Missouri Senator Josh Hally's been on this
(20:36):
program a lot. I know him, I like him. I
think he's going to run for president buck and so
I think some of the statements that you're seeing that
are occurring out here, you should consider them as almost
an early audition for the twenty twenty eight primary. And
let me explain.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
So.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
First of all, I think declaring victory and saying hey,
we've gotten everything we need to get done, is what
is going to happen. I would say at some point
in March. I think you and I probably agree. When
exactly that will be, I think remains to be seen.
But think about the jostling and the jockeying that is
going to go on. We don't know what's gonna happen.
There's a front page article today about Trump increasingly asking people, hey,
(21:20):
do you like Marco Rubio or jd Vance? Better? Setting
up We were talking about this off air and apprentice
style runoff for who is Trump going to endorse. I
think that Trump will play this for everything it's worth,
and we'll see what happens between JD Vance and Marco Rubio.
I would be stunned beyond belief if Senator Ted Cruz
(21:43):
of Texas doesn't run, and increasingly Josh Holly might while
well run too. And so I think you can start
looking at this and say, Okay, what is the lane?
What is the lane under which they might run? And
I'll give you a couple of takes here on how
I see this developing. Ted Cruz sees himself, I think
(22:08):
as the foremost defender of Israel in the Republican Party
right now. I mean, leaving aside Lindsey Graham, who's just
totally out to crazy town on wanting to go to
war with everybody, but so Ted Cruz, I think, sees
himself as opposed directly to what I would say is
the Ted Cruz, sorry, the Tucker Carlson JD Vance wing,
(22:33):
which I think he's trying to define. It seems clear
to me Cruz is going at Tucker Carlson. There's firing
back at each other and trying to say Tucker is
anti Israel and Ted Cruz pro Israel, and so that
battleground is happening. I think he sees Elaine there. Josh Hawley,
I think sees a lane as being the completely anti
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intervention wing of the Republican Party, which is a lot
of you out there in this group. I don't want
to do anything external at all. I want to focus
one hundred percent on America, and I would say that
that Marco Rubio and Jade Vance are somewhere in that
grouping two. So I do think the story beyond the
(23:14):
story here is Josh Holly is saying, Hey, it's time
to declare victory. This is Josh Holly trying to brand himself,
I think intelligently as the anti interventionist wing of the
Republican Party to potentially lay the groundwork for his presidential
ambitions in twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Do you see that like?
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I think we agree that at some point Trump is
going to declare victory. But I think Holly speaking out
in this way is about trying to establish what his
lane would be if he is going to run in
twenty eight. He's going to try to pick up the
mantle of I am America First. That is my lane,
no New Wars everything. I think that's what he'll run on.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I think you're right about the Holly political assessment as
it pertains to him in his future. I also think
he's just concerned about where this goes if this continues
on for the Republican Party. And this may sound hokey
corny to some people, but for the country I think
there are concerns about what can happen here if the
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mission set drags on, or if there is a lack
of clarity about what can be accomplished with what we're
willing to do, and that's really the main thing here.
Could we bring about regime change in Iran? Absolutely if
we're willing to do things that we absolutely should not do.
That would require a lot of American investment and lives
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and time and effort, nightmarish levels of those things. So
we don't want to do that. So since we don't
want to do that, since we have a limited goal
in this context of military intervention, let's keep it nice
and limited. Got got to keep this thing tight, can't
let it spill over. And I think that's what Josh
(25:00):
Holly saying, and I think others are seeing this too,
because if there was some big other part of the
plan than just blowing the crap out of all the
Iranian military stuff and their leadership, Okay, I think we
would start to see that by now. I could be wrong.
Maybe next week I come on and say, oh wow, look,
(25:21):
I think it's highly highly unlikely at this point, So
that means we all I think it would also be
good to give us some sense as to what the
military is. The military objective, Clay, just to leave Iran
as toothless as a military course as possible. And then
how close are we to that? Are we seventy five
percent of the way there? Are we more like, you know,
(25:43):
thirty forty percent of the way there? Well, what I
think we're probably more like seventy five percent. So that's
that indicates to me that this thing could wrap up soon.
But I'm actually with Josh Holly on the it should
wrap up soon. I mean the whole declaring victory thing,
and yeah, we know we won. Obviously they don't even
have a military left. But enough is enough.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
President Trump is taking questions right now on the south
lawn of the White House. We will pay attention to that.
It's being carried live on every network. He did say earlier,
Buck another quote, war will end soon. This is according
to Axios, there is practically nothing left to target, which
(26:24):
I mean the mission goes directly to the mission has
been has been completed. My concern, my concern we started
off the show talking about it is I don't think
we can leave this guy moch Tabak moch Tabi Kamene
in charge. I just and Buck's gonna love my pronunce.
You're not team. We can't leave Little Moe. We can't
(26:46):
leave Little Moe to go full Trump here. We can't
leave Little Moe in charge because I just if again,
whatever your background is, I just I believe in venja.
I believe in anger and revenge. Whatever your background is,
listening to us right now. If your dad, your mom,
(27:07):
your wife, and your son all got killed by someone,
would you ever shake hands with them for the rest
of your life and work to make the world a
better place. No, I bet almost all of you would
be hell bent on the vengeance for that act being
done to your family. I don't think we leave aside
the religion, leave aside the everything else. There's no way
this guy is a functional leader that benefits America. He
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cannot be in charge.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
There is a really important piece of the geopolitical analysis
here that we haven't taken into account yet, and I
think that's at some level that's just on us. We
have to deal with a lot here. We're trying to
bring things all together. But whoopee. Goldberg has weighed in
on the situation, and I almost speak she has a
(27:54):
take for us here about what's really going on? And
oh she's tying in and Epstein and Nancy Guthrie. This
is quite a take everybody on the Iran aerial campaign
play thirteen.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
It's just nutty as hell. It's nutty as hell. Yeah,
and you're right, every day is something new, and it's
you know, I was thinking about it yesterday because I thought, well, Okay,
why haven't we been talking about Savannah Guthrie and what's
going on?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Then?
Speaker 6 (28:25):
Why have we not been talking about the Epstein.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Files because that's still there.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Yeah, this has meant to get us so worked up
that we are unable to see anything out.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
The Kissinger of our era, Whoopy Goldberg with Clay Trump
is bombing the crap out of Iran, so that we're
not talking about Nancy Guthrie's kidnapping. We didn't take this
into account at the start of the show. Perhaps we
need to reassess our analysis.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I look at this and she is a moron, right,
But I don't think most people look to the Star
of Ghost if I remember correctly, and the Color Purple
as the most savvy political analyst of our time. The
fact that the crowd clapped when she said that is
I think more of an indictment than will be Goldberg's
(29:18):
awful decision. And so I can't believe that this is
real and that ABC News would continue to support this show,
which is just political propaganda. And every time we play
a clip from the View, we should probably mention that
we have both offered to go on the View. It
would have been made great sense for your book coming out,
(29:40):
for my book coming outs promotion to an audience that
otherwise might not see it. They won't allow reasonably intelligent
people who disagree with them by and large to go
on because they know that their arguments and their argued
ers are ultimately not very smart. And I will give
credit Elizabeth Hasselbeck what I don't think we played the cut.
(30:01):
She used to be on the show, if I remember correctly.
She lives here in Nashville. Her husband's good football coach,
and so I know them, and she did a great
job actually arguing with some of the some of the
hosts on the show. I think they were talking about
the save act Buck and she actually called out the
(30:23):
audience and said, how many of you had to provide
ID to be able to come watch this show today?
And like the whole audience raises their hand. I mean,
I do think you know the idea that it is racist.
It was it racist of the view to require ID
to come watch their show. It's such a ridiculous argument
against it. We're going to talk about Tommy Tampervill Senator about.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
This in a little bit. But I think you're missing
the forest for the trees here. Republicans want to talk
about the Save America Act so that we're not talking
about the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping. According to Wipe Goldberg, that's
where we are, that's our big plan.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
I will say, the Nancy Guthrier kidnapping is still really weird,
and I have still been following, of course.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
But I don't think that Trump is trying to cover
it up by starting a war in a foreign country.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Why. It's crazy. Also, it's a crazy take because Trump
isn't responsible for the Nancy Dancy Guthrie story, right. She
at least followed it up by saying the Epstein steam five,
which is actually something you're hearing some people say on
the left. But I haven't heard anybody suggest prior to
whoopee hey, the reason we went to war is so
(31:34):
we're not talking about the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping. And again,
I just come back on the view buck. They have
huge staffs of people pitching them ideas all day long,
every day. All you have to have to do that
show is an IQ of forty six, because they're coming
to you on a regular basis saying, hey, here's a take,
(31:55):
here's a take, here's three articles you need to read
to be somewhat informed on. And they won't do the
bare minimum. How much prep do you think will be
Goldberg does for that show? Six minutes a day, Like
she shows up, gets her makeup done, has a conversation
with her makeup artist. I guarant I don't even know
if she reads the newspaper. I mean, it's actually an
(32:16):
insult to the audience how little she actually spends prepping
before she gets paid millions of dollars to go share
her opinions. In my always humble opinion, I want to
tell you price picks all fifty states five dollars. You
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great deal. You can play it from Washington all the
(32:37):
way down to Florida, from Maine, all the way down
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there wherever you are across the country with and breadth
all fifty states. Did you see last night some of
you did. Our baseball team choked. We got beat by
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now stage. Conference basketball tournaments are going right now. Buck
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Speaker 2 (33:36):
A lot of emails, a lot of talkbacks pouring in here,
particularly on the Iran situation. VIP email from Tony Buck.
Your assessment is spot on. War is a clash of wills.
You cannot defeat an adversary through aerial bombardment. Only historical
examples are endless German bombardment of the Britz, Battle of Britain,
North Vietnam, massive B fifty two carpet bombing. Sometimes when
(33:57):
civilian casualties occur can strengthen resolve. I'm retired now, but
I predicted early on this campaign about degrading Iran's capabilities.
It has never been about regime change. If that is
an accidental byproduct, so be it, Tony. I agree with
you that I think that's why administration feels too. We're
opening the door for the Iranians to throw the bums out,
but they don't do it. They don't do it. We're
just making sure that they can't hit us.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
We're gonna be build on that.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
One thing that I do think is changing is the
degree to which we can specifically target using drones is changing.
Every war advances technology at a rapid scale, and I
think what's happened with Ukraine and Russia. If you read
about that war now, Buck, they're almost conducting the entire
war via drone like you can't even go outside and
(34:45):
be seen at all because they will take you out.
And I think the mechanized nature of this war and
future wars is going to be so much different than anything.
We can comprehend that boots on the ground is going
to become much less commonplace.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Period. Well, it also is a reminder that the calculation
is different when you're sending drones to do this stuff
than when you're sending pilots. The American people can handle
a lot of drones getting blown out of the sky,
and that hasn't even been happening. But I'm saying we
can handle a lot of our drone We lose drones, Okay,
it's expensive. The second we have a pilot on video
(35:22):
who is giving his name, rank and serial number. Things
change real fast. We feel very differently. Other think is
basic human emotion. I think that's very understandable. So that's
a big difference in the calculation. Here VIP email from
Larry as a member of the Naval Carrier Task Group
during the release of the hostages during the Iranian hostage crisis.
I've been waiting for payback for forty six years. President
(35:43):
Trump knows he has a timeline and mandates from his base,
which is always on his mind to protect Americans and
his America First agenda. Larry, I hope that's totally spot
on again. I'm just voicing the unease that some have
with Okay, this is going on, when does it stop?
It's Trump's call about when it stops, and he's clearly
(36:05):
got his eyes very closely affixed to that.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
That's really astute email, Buck, because I do think there's
probably a generational divide. You and I are we're not
born and we're not young enough don't remember the hostage crisis,
and so I think for people who are in their
sixties seventies, who live through the hostage crisis, who live
through the bombings that have taken place that Iran has
helped to make happen, it's different than if you're thirty
(36:31):
today than if you're sixty five today in terms of
what you've experienced of the evilness of the Iranian regime.
Younger people don't have as much of a tangible connection
to it. Really good emails both, I think there and
we appreciate the VIP emails that we get all the time.
We come back. Buck, you've got us off the top.
I'm sure we're going to continue to talk about Iran.
(36:52):
President Trump. We've got a couple of cuts from him
just now as he was outside the White House.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
And another super rich lib Starbucks CEO moving to Florida.
Clay talk about it.
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