August 4, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show focused on the political implications of key races in the Midwest, the strength of the U.S. economy, the growing influence of far-left candidates within the Democratic Party, and broader debates surrounding identity politics, race, and the future direction of American politics. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton opened the hour by discussing Michigan’s primary election, highlighting the Democratic Senate contest featuring Abdul El-Sayed and examining how the outcome could provide insight into the national appeal of progressive and socialist candidates beyond deeply blue cities such as New York and Los Angeles. The hosts argued that Michigan and Wisconsin serve as political testing grounds for whether increasingly far-left Democratic candidates can succeed in competitive swing states.
A major theme throughout Hour 1 was the hosts’ contention that the Democratic Party is moving further toward socialist and identity-based politics. Clay and Buck analyzed several emerging Democratic candidates, including Michigan Senate hopeful Abdul El-Sayed and Wisconsin gubernatorial hopeful Francesca Hong, framing both as representative of the party’s progressive wing. They debated whether these candidates would strengthen Republican chances in key battleground states or whether they reflect a broader ideological shift within the Democratic electorate. The conversation repeatedly returned to the question of whether ideas that resonate in major urban centers can translate into statewide success in politically divided states.
The hosts also spent considerable time discussing the economy and financial markets. They pointed to record highs in the S&P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average as evidence of economic resilience and argued that pessimistic forecasts issued by many economic commentators during previous market downturns had proven incorrect. Clay emphasized long-term investing, retirement accounts, and confidence in American economic growth, while Buck argued that investing in the United States remains a powerful wealth-building strategy because of the country’s historical record of innovation, productivity, and economic expansion. The discussion also briefly touched on Bitcoin, cryptocurrency investing, artificial intelligence, and broader investment trends.
Another significant segment examined comments made by Wisconsin Democratic candidate Francesca Hong regarding Thanksgiving. Clay and Buck criticized her previous statements questioning the holiday and played a CNN interview in which Hong addressed the controversy. The hosts argued that her response reflected what they view as the growing influence of progressive identity politics and historical grievance narratives within Democratic politics. They connected the controversy to wider debates about American history, patriotism, race, and the cultural issues that increasingly dominate political discourse.
The conversation then expanded into an extended discussion of race, identity politics, and what the hosts described as “race communism,” a worldview they argued increasingly influences left-wing activism and political messaging. Using Abdul El-Sayed’s comments about America’s founding as a springboard, Clay and Buck examined how modern progressive politics often interprets events through frameworks of race, oppression, and historical injustice. They questioned why some children of immigrant families adopt narratives emphasizing America’s flaws rather than its opportunities and debated how identity-based political arguments affect voter coalitions and public policy.
Michigan’s unique demographics also played a central role in the hour. Clay discussed the state’s large Arab-American population, particularly around Dearborn and Detroit, as well as its significant Jewish population and diverse voting blocs. The hosts explored how these communities could shape the Michigan Senate race and examined whether El-Sayed could successfully unite disparate Democratic constituencies in a statewide election. They argued that voter turnout, demographic shifts, and reactions to progressive candidates may ultimately determine the outcome of one of the nation’s most closely watched Senate contests.
The hosts also reflected on broader political realignments involving Jewish voters, racial identity politics, and reactions to the aftermath of October 7 and related Middle East debates. Clay and Buck argued that many traditional Democratic constituencies are reassessing their political alliances as identity politics increasingly becomes a dominant framework within portions of the modern left.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in that we are rolling with the Tuesday edition
of The Clay and Buck Show. A lot of big
stories to follow. We have got Michigan primary day, Hailey
Stevens going up against Abdul el Sayed on the Democrat side.
They will face on the Republican side Mike Rogers and
(00:26):
Abdul el Dayed is right now Buck a ninety eight
percent according to the prediction markets to win, which means
the far left wing candidate is likely to be picked
today by Michiganders and that will then lead to I believe,
a very winnable race for Mike Rodgers. Also, Republicans selecting
(00:51):
their GOP nominee for Governor. John James is favored in
that race to be the republicanee that is an open
seat after Gretchen Whitmer is term limited out. So we
will be talking some about the fact that that is
going on and what the significance of the Michigan primary
(01:13):
vote could tell us about how popular are the Democrats
socialists are outside of places like Los Angeles, New York certainly,
and other big blue locales. What is going to play
in a purple state. We've got a crazy speaking of
purple States. We've got a Francesca Hong who is emerging
as one of the craziest potential major party nominees that
(01:37):
we have seen in a very long time, as she
has favored to be the Democrat nominee in the state
of Michigan, and a little bit of a panic is
starting to set in there. Buck, super positive right off
the top record high stock prices as I am talking
to all of you this morning, Never before have your
(01:58):
four to oh one case have your stockholdings been more valuable.
S and P five hundred surging to as we speak,
a new all time record high. We also have the
Dow Jones at an all time record high, and Buck
just tooting our own horn a little bit here. Back
in April of twenty twenty five, which wasn't very long ago,
(02:21):
the economic geniuses of the expert class told all of
us that the economy was headed for a recession and
things were going to collapse. At that point in time,
the S and P five hundred had dropped to around
five thousand. On this program last year in April, we said, hey,
(02:41):
it's probably a good time to buy stocks. Don't listen
to the pannikins out there. Don't allow yourself to be
motivated by emotion here at a minimum, hold onto your stocks.
If you have extra money on the side, this would
be a good time to buy. Stock Prices up nearly
three thousand in the S and P five hundred since
(03:02):
that day, well over fifty percent returns just in the
past year. Now, what is the stock market going to
do on a day to day basis? Nobody knows. But
over time you're gonna make about ten percent a year
in SMP five hundred index funds. And if you are
a stockholder, if you have retirement accounts, if you have
a four oh one K, if you have opened a
(03:22):
Trump account for your young children out there as many
of you have grandchildren, and as well, like Buck did
for his own one year old, it is a good
time to be invested in America. Things are very positive
out there when it comes to stock market prices.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
As we begin the.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Show today, there's a lot of positivity for you, Buck.
That is that setting off your negativity alarm bells? Is
that too much positive news right out of the gate here?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, I'm hearing people say that the Texas sentence seat
is going to be competitive. Clay, I'm here in crazy talk.
By the way, we have Ken joining us. Yes, that's
what we call it teas in the business. We have
Ken Paxton joining us to dispel these rumors. Although he
does want as many of you to show up as
possible for that Senate race to vote for him, But he,
(04:12):
I'm sure, is going to give us a different take
than what the the Democrat media has been saying about
that race. We've got the Michigan Senate race today. We
have the Wisconsin gubernatorial candidate who is a total whack
job okay, a really Looney Tunes level candidate, and she
(04:33):
is she could win. She well could be the next
governor of Wisconsin, and obviously that affects what is a
very important, a critical toss up purple state for the
next election cycle for president. Plus more people talking about
Clay's ten million dollar WNBA offer, so we have we
have a lot of things to get to. I also
know it. Thank you for joining us for the live
(04:53):
stream yesterday. Sorry the live stream didn't get so live,
but we do have on YouTube a special with our
friend Aaron Wexler. By the way, her name is spelled
a r y Nne, and she wants she says, her
only request, Clay, is for our audience to follow her
on Facebook. I said, really, Facebook? She said, yes, please
follow Aaron Wexler on Facebook. But it's a great interview.
(05:14):
We talked to her for a while after the show.
You should go check that out on YouTube. That's the
place to find it, because we continued the show after
the show. Now, Clay, I now it is dealer's choice.
By the way, it's very true that the stock market
is super high. It is a moment where I think
it's worth reminding people. By the way, Bitcoin down fifty
percent from its high. Bitcoiners are having a rough one.
(05:39):
I have never been some people. Here's what I don't
want to make this divert our segment here into crypto talk.
I've never been a crypto person. I owned a little
bit for a short period of time. It went up,
and I sold it because I fundamentally I'm not a believer.
And I think the fact that you're even using terms
like belief, like people out there are saying they are
(05:59):
crypto believers. When it's about your money and it's about investing,
you should be able to explain why you're in it,
why it makes sense, and why you you know, what
you just said, Clay, bet on America. This is really straightforward.
America is the greatest wealth generation machinery ever on the planet, period,
(06:20):
full stop. It's not even close. So you're betting on
the horse that has one more races than any other
horse ever.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I think that's a pretty safe place to be. Doesn't
mean it's gonna necessarily pan out, but it's a smart bet.
A lot of the stuff that people have been sold
on with the domerism out there of say, oh my gosh,
we're gonna have a total collapse and everything else of
our of our economy and of the dollar, and they
rush into this crypto stuff. I'm not a believer, So
(06:48):
I just Clay, I just want to read it. What
reiterate what you're saying, which is bet on America. Because
if your bet on America fails, you're not even gonna
care that you bet on America. You're gonna have other problems.
You're gonna the world is gonna be in a scary,
scary place. Trust me. You know, if the Treasury bond
becomes worthless, it's not gonna you're gonna you're gonna care
about how much drinkable water and how much ammunition you
(07:08):
have truly. So with that in mind, Clay, I would say, also,
AI is gonna increasingly become very positive and productive for
all of us, and that's a really good thing. So
I'm taking some of your positivity and then I am
turning it into the reality of some of these lunatics
out there. I'm gonna I'm gonna do this as artfully
(07:30):
as I can. I think we should play.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I saw this and I shared it, and I do
think that this is a representative sample jumping in because
I'm pulling up the same quotes that you are. This
is this is I think indicative of how crazy this
Francesca Hong candidate is for Democrats. She's going to be
their nominee for governor. And she went on with Caitlyn
(07:55):
Collins last night on CNN and Caitlyn she said, Francesca
Hong did that Thanksgiving should be canceled and it was
a racist holiday and we should not celebrate it anymore.
This is what the Democrat candidate for Wisconsin governor said.
Buck here she is cut eight. Caitlin Collins said, Hey,
(08:16):
you said this crazy thing in the past. Would you
now like to say, maybe canceling Thanksgiving not the right
way to go.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Listen to this.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Kamala Harris word salid esque answer where she basically says, yeah,
I mean it.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Cut eight.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Do you still believe that Thanksgiving should be canceled.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I'm a chef and one of the first meals that
I made that was for the community when I was sixteen,
was a Thanksgiving meal.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
No.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I always think my hospitality background and owning a restaurant
for seven eight years that bringing folks around the table
to share conversation and build community is always a good thing.
But Thanksgiving is also a time that's incredibly painful many
people in our communities, and so I think there I
wanted to make sure that people understood that there are
(09:06):
multiple views, but views can evolve, and the position that
I'm running for right now, and I think my background
as a chef will actually help me become a better
governor that's able to bring more people to the table.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
This is one of the worst answers I've ever heard.
First of all, Buck and I will open this up
eight hundred and two A two two eight A two.
Have you ever heard anyone say that Thanksgiving is an
incredibly difficult time for them. And I don't mean when
you've had a lost loved one in your family and
you're sitting at the table and you're thinking, Man, a
lot of times holidays can be difficult because of lost
(09:41):
family members, lost friends. That is not what I'm talking about,
that Thanksgiving itself is a traumatic experience because of American
I've legitimately never heard anyone actually say this. I'm just curious,
have you, Like I feel like I know a lot
of left wing people, I've never actually heard anyone may
the argument that Thanksgiving should be canceled.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I know, I never heard that. She's taking what's usually
the Columbus Day argument, yes, which is we need to
weep for the indigenous people, the pre Columbian people living
in the Stone Age, as they were the literal Stone Age,
I might add in terms of technology, so we are
supposed to weep for them. And that is one thing
(10:23):
I've never heard somebody say Thanksgiving is problematic. Although Clay,
in a twist of irony, it is people like Francesca
Hong who make Thanksgiving painful by saying incredibly stupid left
wing things at the table about Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
So we have now actually brought this full circle do.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
You think that she got Thanksgiving and Columbus Day confused
initially when she was saying cancel Thanksgiving, Because I do
think that she might just not be aware that Thanksgiving
is typically not canceled. And I do love the fact
that she tried to pivot to I'm a chef as
if that's.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
What I want to say.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Is now, if anyone asks me like what do you think?
Do you think Thanksgiving is problematic? The same way they
do with a biologist, and trans be like, well, I'm
not a chef, so I.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Can't have it. Yeah, that's Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
You know, I'm not a professional Clay. She is a
race communist. There's actually a very good essay I was
up last night reading and I want to give credit
for it that I read. I think it was in
Tablet mag but I have to track it down. Team
help me find it. A very good essay just delving
into how race communism, which started really just more as
(11:33):
a kind of a catch all pejorative for left wing
idiocy online. I use it though, knowing quite a bit
about the history of actual communism and this author she
did the same thing. That is what we are seeing
it is race instead of class infused in every policy,
in every action, and every thought of government of society,
and it can never be fixed. It can there is
(11:55):
no right. So it's an excuse for constant agitation and
constant self victimization, the pretense of victimization. And Francesca Hong
of Wisconsin is a race communist, that is her ideology.
So everything has to be seen through this lens of race.
And what's fascinating is that the race communists are coming,
(12:17):
you know, coming about now in this country at a
time when there are so many different races and new
arrivals here as well, that how are they piling into
the history of you know, oppression in America or the
Native Americans. You know, does Francesca Hong I'm gonna go
out a limb here. Is her parentage Asian or is
you know she have Asian background. I'm gonna take a
(12:37):
guess she cared about like Mao's murder of sixty million
people in her country?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Does that? Ever? No, only the Iroquois.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
She weeps for the Iroquois, not her grandparents' generation who
were probably being murdered by Chinese communists and by Mao. So,
you know, I think we're seeing how this is completely
spiraling into nonsense and absurdity, but also a lot of
declayor a lot of believers she might become the governor, right,
So well, it's two sided.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
This is where I think this ties in with the
primary that's going on in Michigan today, because I think Democrats,
in their anger and in their far left wing leadership
of the socialists, are potentially leading their party off a
cliff and they may be nominating people that cannot win
(13:25):
in purple state. Why do you think after mom Donni
became the most powerful prominent Democrat in the whole country
after winning the mayorship of the biggest city in America,
being an abject race communist loon, why do you think
that like this the city New York City is probably
an eighty twenty Democrat locale Michigan and Wisconsin is a
(13:47):
fifty to fifty state. So I think the moderate voters
who ultimately decide these elections. Remember Trump won Michigan, he
won Wisconsin. Ron Johnson, our buddy, is capable of getting
elected in Wisconsin. And I think that New York City
is crazy. And this is actually where I would argue
my suggestion that by picking a crazy left winger. It
(14:11):
might actually lead New York City off the deep end,
but be utterly destructive for the Democrat Party overall. So
I'm optimistic that what works in New York City is
not going to work in Wisconsin and Michigan. If Mom
Donnie liked candidates like Hong and l Siyed win in
Michigan and Wisconsin, then I will start to hit the
(14:34):
panic button here because it would suggest that a candidate
like that can win nationwide.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
But that's what I'm telling you. I think they're competitive, Clay,
I don't. I don't think they're I don't think they're
a joke, even in Michigan or Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I think I don't know that I analogy, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I mean, it's going to come down to two or
three points either way in a fifty to fifty state.
But I don't think Hong will win and I don't
think l sim win. But shouldn't it be shouldn't it
be a little alarming to you that forty eight percent
of Wisconsin heights might vote for a race communist. So
you may be right, but you're talking about a goal
line stand like this is something to celebrate. This is
(15:09):
not this is not ideal, but if they had nominated
a normal Democrat, I think Wisconsin would win. The Democrats
would win Wisconsin, and I think they would win Michigan.
I think they may lose both over the choices that
they're making, which I do think are Mom Donnie influenced,
but don't play as well there as they do in
(15:30):
New York City.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I like that You're gonna have to keep this optimism
up because I am very concerned about the midterms, very concerned.
So you're gonna be our optimistic guy. I was not
concerned about twenty four for these nominees. I told you
guys almost exactly two years ago. Trump is gonna Trump
is going to absolutely kick ass in the twenty four election.
We are going to smoke these fools. They are toast.
Kamla has no chance. I am very worried about this midterm.
(15:54):
I'll just tell you right now. I am highly concerned.
I'm just expressing concern. I want the messaging to be good.
I want things to be good going into it. By
the way, the piece was the Racial Crossroads Compactmag not
Tablet Mag, Compactmag dot Com by Helen Andrews.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Very much worth reading.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
We could put it up on maybe Claymbuck dot com
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Speaker 1 (17:14):
We'll come back and talk a little bit about that
decision that they have Hailey Stevens versus Abdul Lsied and
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bought the Nashville Balls and be the most inclusive team
out there. So many of you reacting to that. We
have some awesome talkbacks and clips on that as well.
(17:36):
Plus David Ellison, who's trying to buy Warner Brothers. We've
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Speaker 3 (18:51):
Clay born and raised, son of Nashville. Me a Manhattan kid.
Now I'm in South Florida. Clay stayed there, but he
also has he spends a lot of time in Florid.
I've been to Michigan, Clay I think twice, maybe three times.
Have not spent a lot of time in Michigan. Have
never been to Detroit, which is definitely a you know,
(19:13):
a thing that I need to ameliorate, but Michigan statewide,
so you can weigh in on, you know, all things Michigan,
Michigan or for US here Michigan statewide primary today.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Just a few things.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
The governor, you got an open seat because incumbent governor
I'm sorry, incumbent Democrat Governor Gretchen Whitmer is term limited out.
I will say we can put a pin in this
for our conversation here some of our Michigan listeners. We
have some very robust, very robust Michigan audience.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
They say that we're not factoring in Whitmer enough for
VP talk specifically, which I think is is fair. So
we can return to that. But in the Republican primary,
you got John James, Perry, Johnson, Michael. They're on the
bat but Cox is on the ballot, and so is
this other guy who suspended.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
They suspended though.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
So really it's the main thing here is you've got
that governor's race, and then you've got the Senate race.
And in the Senate race, it's a very interesting stuff
going on here. I think Trump put it well, Clay,
why don't we let Trump set the table.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Here on the Michigan Senate primary for the Democrats this
is cut thirteen. Play it well.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
You have a very interesting group who I'm really voting
for is Mike Rogers because I think he's going to
be a great senator. But you have a communist versus
a socialist. That's the way I look at it. You
have a communist versus a socialist. It looks like the
communist is leading. We're talking about for the Democrat primary,
but for the Republican you have a very good man
(20:47):
and he should be able to he should be able
to win.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
A communist versus a socialist, Mike Rogers up against them,
here is the communist in that equation. Clay abdul Al sayed,
cut four teen. Listen to this and then on the
removal of the whole people.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Colun did on the idea that we could comarage on
whether or not people as a function of the color
of their skin could be enslaved to bother people. Chal
did under the idea that all people are created equal,
all men, but that only meant certain men phenomena.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, it doesn't sound like this guy loves America, at
least the ideals of the founding. He thinks that America
is all about racism. Abdul Al sayed, Like I said
about the race communists, I would wonder how long mister
El Sayed's family has been in this country that they
have had to suffer so much of the racism of
two hundred years ago. But what make you of this
(21:42):
primary as it stands? Good, Sir A L.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Sayad is going to win.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Mike Rodgers versus Abdul l Sayed is going to be
one of the most impactful of all Senate races coming
up this fall, and I think Mike Rodgers will have
a very good chance to win. Now, a couple of
things that are important. I don't believe team. You can
correct me on this if I'm wrong. I don't believe
Michigan has elected a Republican statewide in the Senate since
(22:12):
nineteen ninety six. Mike Rogers lost by around fifteen thousand
votes in twenty twenty four. Obviously, Trump won the state
of Michigan, if I'm remembering correctly, by around fifty thousand
votes in a very close race. A couple of things
that are going to play in here. And I do
know the state of Michigan well because my wife is
from Michigan. I had never been to Michigan before I
(22:34):
started dating her, so I have since been to Michigan
a ton, But I would be a bit like you
Buck if I hadn't happened to meet Laura. I imagine
that I would not have been to Michigan. I would
not know that Northern Michigan in the summer is one
of the greatest places on the planet. I would not
certainly have gotten engaged in northern Michigan and married in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
So all of those things.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
My wife, Laura still has a ton of family that
is up in southeast Michigan, and so we spend a
lot of time there. So I feel like I know
the state pretty well within the context of that, and
certainly my wife knows the state very very well, having
been born and raised there. Here is what is unique
about Michigan. There is a huge The largest Arab population
(23:16):
as a percentage of the overall population is in the
Detroit area dearborn in particular. Trump actually won a huge
percentage of those votes in twenty twenty four because they
did not respond well to Kamala Harris. Those votes presumably
will all go to Abdul l sayed. There is also
a huge Jewish population in the suburbs of Detroit, in
(23:40):
the Oakland County area in particular, and the question that
will be paramount there is what will happen with that
vote in the Jewish vote. Here's another part of this book.
The black voting bloc has not responded at all well
to abdul Lsayed. In fact, Hailey's Stevens is getting overwhelming
(24:01):
percentages of the black vote.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
How will abdul.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
L Sayed be able to bring in large numbers of
Black voters? And then here is what I think is
going to be incredibly key in addition to the Jewish
the Black vote. I cannot imagine that abdul l Sayed
will play at all very well in the northern parts
of Michigan, which are overwhelmingly read overwhelmingly vote Trump. Will
(24:25):
they show up in an off cycle election without Trump
on the ballot. This is why to me, this race
is going to be one of the most fascinating to
watch in the entire country, if not the most fascinating
race to watch in the entire country.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
So I think that's where the means in ballasis. Yeah, No,
I think that was good. I think that that was
high level radio Well done, sir. If I may say,
I would just point us for a second back to
abdul Il say ed because I mused aloud. Remember he's
talking about how the founding of America was all about racism,
(25:01):
and this is just real. He's giving a speech and
he's talking about how it's all about effectively white supremacy.
White people, white people are bad. White people have done
all these bad things I do. I'll say it's parents
came here from Egypt. They have no experience of the
you know, the legacy of slavery. They are not black,
(25:23):
they were not institutionally oppressed by this. All real things, right,
It is fascinating to me to watch non white immigrants
to America adopt this framework where they are aggrieved in
a way that is specific and unique to the black
(25:43):
American experience. In fact, our entire racial spoils system was
one set up to be temporary, as it ended up
being somewhat temporary.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
But two clay, it was for the descendants of slaves.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yes, people who could point to this country did something
immorl and wrong to my grandfather, my great great grandfather,
et cetera. Now we can talk about how that we know,
how when do you decide that enough is enough? And
what about people born today? And why should people being
You know, I still I oppose actually affirmative action always
(26:22):
and forever because.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
It will just create more problems. But put that aside
for a moment.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
The son of Egyptian immigrants to America, I would be
willing to bet, because they went through quite a lot
to get here, that his Egyptian immigrant parents loved coming
here and had a better life here than they ever
would have in Egypt. I'm gonna tell you something, just
gonna help you guys, skip to the end here. Egypt
not so great. I've spent time there really uh dysfunctional,
(26:50):
and the streets are very dirty. You see the pyramids,
and you'll have a million people trying to scam you
at the pyramid. It's not fun.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Egypt, Yeah, there's some nice there's a nice part. It's
almost every country except for like North Korea and Somalia.
But Egypt, you can skip it. I'm sure they were
very happy to come here.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
And Clay, why does he adopt this narrative though in
public of America rooted and all this bad stuff. It's
root in all this bad stuff. But your family won
the lottery, maybe literally in a sense of an immigration lottery.
But your family won the lottery and being able to
come here, and instead of gratitude, you give us lectures.
(27:29):
You give lectures to the American people about how this
place is so racist.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yes, all of that I co sign with.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Here's why he's doing it, Buck, because Democrats have convinced
themselves this is how you get black voters to show up.
And Abdul al say Ed is deeply behind with black
voters right now in the primary because James Clyburn and
other black elected officials decided to endorse Hailey Stevens because
they think Abdul Lsayed is not electable in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
So this is the look. This is the root evil.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I would say of many Democrat Party ideas is they
are all directly connected to the concept of identity politics
as a guiding principle for every single decision that you
need to make. Right, it's the oppression pyramid. Everything that
occurs in the United States is seen through the prism
(28:24):
of who is the bigger victim, and that determines everything. Buck,
this is where I saw sports going, and this is
why I got so frustrated. It got to the point
where you couldn't say, hey, I don't think this quarterback
is good if he was black. Certainly Rush experience this
because he got fired twenty years ago for talking about this.
(28:45):
You can't criticize an athlete because of his race, or
you can't criticize the WNBA because it's a black lesbian league,
because immediately left wingers line up and say, oh, the
reason why you're criticizing that is rooted and id identity politics.
When ultimately America is a meritocratic country. The best man
(29:05):
or the best woman should win, not the best man
pretending to be a woman, but that should apply across
all of society. And so I don't think Abdul Lsied
believes this. This is the part that is particularly frustrating.
I think to your point, he and many other recent
first generation immigrants understand better than anyone the promise of America,
(29:26):
but they feel compelled as Democrat officials to not sell
the promise of America. They have to sell the peril.
They have to sell the victimized cultural landscape. And really,
I know, we got a lot of black listeners to
us right now. This to me is what has led
to the emasculation of many black men, because they're actually
being told by the Democrat Party. You can't succeed in
(29:49):
this country because the country is aligned against you, and
when you teach weakness, you get weakness back as a result.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Well, I actually think er goes in fact, this goes
back to the race communism piece in Compact mag that
I mentioned, and will invite it Helen Andrews will invite
her on to talk about it because she goes through.
I will say our analysis here Clay about the Israel
Hamas thing was ahead of its time and so far
as the American left just views it as a white
(30:19):
versus brown struggle. American Muslims and Muslims around the world
view it as a Jewish Muslim issue, but in this
country it's white and brown. And what white American Jews
who are leftists, not conservative Jews, they already know this.
What they don't understand is that they actually are going
to be under constant pressure and threat from the identity
(30:41):
politics framework, from this race communism that you and I
talk about. That's why the Scott Galloway thing, I think,
hit with so many people where he's like, what do
you mean I support your Marxist redistributionistet, Scott, You're rich
and white?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
They don't like you.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
They'll use you now, but you're a rich white Jewish guy.
Eventually they are taking is he Jewish? I thought he
was Jewish?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I could he's male, got to put the mail cart
in there. He's rich and white.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, I made I made a joke about this a
while back that it's like the worst I was been
a poor white guy my whole life. I've only gotten
rich in the past couple of years. I didn't know
that I was he is Jewish, but he is Jewish.
I thought he was the most hated person you and
I because I became a rich white guy, like after
being a poor white guy for a long time, and
now everybody hates me. On the left, I would also
(31:27):
point out that there are uh, this is something we
got one hundred percent right about October seventh, and a
lot of Jewish people are still becoming aware of it
because they look around and they say, wait a minute,
Jews are just seen as white. This is what a
lot of Jewish people they're like, wait, no, no, no, I'm
a religious minority.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And you're right.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Jewish people have been more pressed, arguably in the twentieth
century than any group on the planet. Right, I mean,
I think if you had to go back to twentieth
century history and say which group religious or at the
or racial group has been the most discriminated against in
the twentieth century, the Holocaust is kind of tough to
get passed when it comes to comparing them to everyone else.
(32:10):
And many Jewish people marched with black people in the
nineteen sixties for basic civil rights, and a lot of
them are listening to us right now. Who are historic Democrats?
But after October seventh, you're finding out.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Even though the brown people showed up, stormed your gates,
murdered innocent women and children, innocent men in your kibbutz is,
they took two hundred and fifty of your people hostage,
many of whom, as you pointed out buck are not
even white, right, but they're seen as white as Jews,
and so you're white, you have to be the bad guy.
(32:43):
The identity politics prism does not allow brown people to
oppress or attack white people, and so Jewish people are
the problem here.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
So the Khmer Rouge, another bunch of communist psychopaths who
killed a few million people. The Khmer Rouge, initially in Cambodia,
just to give you some of this.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
The guy.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
The Black Book of Communism is a great book. I'm
looking at it right now. I highly recommend it to you.
You learn about a lot of what communism actually did
around the world.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Clay.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
The early days, there were intellectuals, Cambodian intellectuals who returned
from their study abroad in places like France of Marxist
theory to help the revolution. And they think, but guess what.
The revolution decided that intellectuals were a problem. So the
intellectuals who came back to give them the framework for
the Marxism that they were then going to institute were arrested,
(33:32):
tortured and executed. That was like nineteen seventy eight, nineteen
seventy guess what, everybody, The revolution devours its children.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
This is what happens. Read a little bit.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
We got to wake up robes Vierre. Did it end
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Welcome in that we are rolling with the Tuesday edition
of The Clay and Buck Show. A lot of big
stories to follow. We have got Michigan primary day, Hailey
Stevens going up against Abdul el Sayed on the Democrat side.
They will face on the Republican side Mike Rogers and
(00:26):
Abdul el Dayed is right now Buck a ninety eight
percent according to the prediction markets to win, which means
the far left wing candidate is likely to be picked
today by Michiganders and that will then lead to I believe,
a very winnable race for Mike Rodgers. Also, Republicans selecting
(00:51):
their GOP nominee for Governor. John James is favored in
that race to be the republicanee that is an open
seat after Gretchen Whitmer is term limited out. So we
will be talking some about the fact that that is
going on and what the significance of the Michigan primary
(01:13):
vote could tell us about how popular are the Democrats
socialists are outside of places like Los Angeles, New York certainly,
and other big blue locales. What is going to play
in a purple state. We've got a crazy speaking of
purple States. We've got a Francesca Hong who is emerging
as one of the craziest potential major party nominees that
(01:37):
we have seen in a very long time, as she
has favored to be the Democrat nominee in the state
of Michigan, and a little bit of a panic is
starting to set in there. Buck, super positive right off
the top record high stock prices as I am talking
to all of you this morning, Never before have your
(01:58):
four to oh one case have your stockholdings been more valuable.
S and P five hundred surging to as we speak,
a new all time record high. We also have the
Dow Jones at an all time record high, and Buck
just tooting our own horn a little bit here. Back
in April of twenty twenty five, which wasn't very long ago,
(02:21):
the economic geniuses of the expert class told all of
us that the economy was headed for a recession and
things were going to collapse. At that point in time,
the S and P five hundred had dropped to around
five thousand. On this program last year in April, we said, hey,
(02:41):
it's probably a good time to buy stocks. Don't listen
to the pannikins out there. Don't allow yourself to be
motivated by emotion here at a minimum, hold onto your stocks.
If you have extra money on the side, this would
be a good time to buy. Stock Prices up nearly
three thousand in the S and P five hundred since
(03:02):
that day, well over fifty percent returns just in the
past year. Now, what is the stock market going to
do on a day to day basis? Nobody knows. But
over time you're gonna make about ten percent a year
in SMP five hundred index funds. And if you are
a stockholder, if you have retirement accounts, if you have
a four oh one K, if you have opened a
(03:22):
Trump account for your young children out there as many
of you have grandchildren, and as well, like Buck did
for his own one year old, it is a good
time to be invested in America. Things are very positive
out there when it comes to stock market prices.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
As we begin the.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Show today, there's a lot of positivity for you, Buck.
That is that setting off your negativity alarm bells? Is
that too much positive news right out of the gate here?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, I'm hearing people say that the Texas sentence seat
is going to be competitive. Clay, I'm here in crazy talk.
By the way, we have Ken joining us. Yes, that's
what we call it teas in the business. We have
Ken Paxton joining us to dispel these rumors. Although he
does want as many of you to show up as
possible for that Senate race to vote for him, But he,
(04:12):
I'm sure, is going to give us a different take
than what the the Democrat media has been saying about
that race. We've got the Michigan Senate race today. We
have the Wisconsin gubernatorial candidate who is a total whack
job okay, a really Looney Tunes level candidate, and she
(04:33):
is she could win. She well could be the next
governor of Wisconsin, and obviously that affects what is a
very important, a critical toss up purple state for the
next election cycle for president. Plus more people talking about
Clay's ten million dollar WNBA offer, so we have we
have a lot of things to get to. I also
know it. Thank you for joining us for the live
(04:53):
stream yesterday. Sorry the live stream didn't get so live,
but we do have on YouTube a special with our
friend Aaron Wexler. By the way, her name is spelled
a r y Nne, and she wants she says, her
only request, Clay, is for our audience to follow her
on Facebook. I said, really, Facebook? She said, yes, please
follow Aaron Wexler on Facebook. But it's a great interview.
(05:14):
We talked to her for a while after the show.
You should go check that out on YouTube. That's the
place to find it, because we continued the show after
the show. Now, Clay, I now it is dealer's choice.
By the way, it's very true that the stock market
is super high. It is a moment where I think
it's worth reminding people. By the way, Bitcoin down fifty
percent from its high. Bitcoiners are having a rough one.
(05:39):
I have never been some people. Here's what I don't
want to make this divert our segment here into crypto talk.
I've never been a crypto person. I owned a little
bit for a short period of time. It went up,
and I sold it because I fundamentally I'm not a believer.
And I think the fact that you're even using terms
like belief, like people out there are saying they are
(05:59):
crypto believers. When it's about your money and it's about investing,
you should be able to explain why you're in it,
why it makes sense, and why you you know, what
you just said, Clay, bet on America. This is really straightforward.
America is the greatest wealth generation machinery ever on the planet, period,
(06:20):
full stop. It's not even close. So you're betting on
the horse that has one more races than any other
horse ever.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I think that's a pretty safe place to be. Doesn't
mean it's gonna necessarily pan out, but it's a smart bet.
A lot of the stuff that people have been sold
on with the domerism out there of say, oh my gosh,
we're gonna have a total collapse and everything else of
our of our economy and of the dollar, and they
rush into this crypto stuff. I'm not a believer, So
(06:48):
I just Clay, I just want to read it. What
reiterate what you're saying, which is bet on America. Because
if your bet on America fails, you're not even gonna
care that you bet on America. You're gonna have other problems.
You're gonna the world is gonna be in a scary,
scary place. Trust me. You know, if the Treasury bond
becomes worthless, it's not gonna you're gonna you're gonna care
about how much drinkable water and how much ammunition you
(07:08):
have truly. So with that in mind, Clay, I would say, also,
AI is gonna increasingly become very positive and productive for
all of us, and that's a really good thing. So
I'm taking some of your positivity and then I am
turning it into the reality of some of these lunatics
out there. I'm gonna I'm gonna do this as artfully
(07:30):
as I can. I think we should play.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I saw this and I shared it, and I do
think that this is a representative sample jumping in because
I'm pulling up the same quotes that you are. This
is this is I think indicative of how crazy this
Francesca Hong candidate is for Democrats. She's going to be
their nominee for governor. And she went on with Caitlyn
(07:55):
Collins last night on CNN and Caitlyn she said, Francesca
Hong did that Thanksgiving should be canceled and it was
a racist holiday and we should not celebrate it anymore.
This is what the Democrat candidate for Wisconsin governor said.
Buck here she is cut eight. Caitlin Collins said, Hey,
(08:16):
you said this crazy thing in the past. Would you
now like to say, maybe canceling Thanksgiving not the right
way to go.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Listen to this.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Kamala Harris word salid esque answer where she basically says, yeah,
I mean it.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Cut eight.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Do you still believe that Thanksgiving should be canceled.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I'm a chef and one of the first meals that
I made that was for the community when I was sixteen,
was a Thanksgiving meal.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
No.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I always think my hospitality background and owning a restaurant
for seven eight years that bringing folks around the table
to share conversation and build community is always a good thing.
But Thanksgiving is also a time that's incredibly painful many
people in our communities, and so I think there I
wanted to make sure that people understood that there are
(09:06):
multiple views, but views can evolve, and the position that
I'm running for right now, and I think my background
as a chef will actually help me become a better
governor that's able to bring more people to the table.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
This is one of the worst answers I've ever heard.
First of all, Buck and I will open this up
eight hundred and two A two two eight A two.
Have you ever heard anyone say that Thanksgiving is an
incredibly difficult time for them. And I don't mean when
you've had a lost loved one in your family and
you're sitting at the table and you're thinking, Man, a
lot of times holidays can be difficult because of lost
(09:41):
family members, lost friends. That is not what I'm talking about,
that Thanksgiving itself is a traumatic experience because of American
I've legitimately never heard anyone actually say this. I'm just curious,
have you, Like I feel like I know a lot
of left wing people, I've never actually heard anyone may
the argument that Thanksgiving should be canceled.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I know, I never heard that. She's taking what's usually
the Columbus Day argument, yes, which is we need to
weep for the indigenous people, the pre Columbian people living
in the Stone Age, as they were the literal Stone Age,
I might add in terms of technology, so we are
supposed to weep for them. And that is one thing
(10:23):
I've never heard somebody say Thanksgiving is problematic. Although Clay,
in a twist of irony, it is people like Francesca
Hong who make Thanksgiving painful by saying incredibly stupid left
wing things at the table about Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
So we have now actually brought this full circle do.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
You think that she got Thanksgiving and Columbus Day confused
initially when she was saying cancel Thanksgiving, Because I do
think that she might just not be aware that Thanksgiving
is typically not canceled. And I do love the fact
that she tried to pivot to I'm a chef as
if that's.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
What I want to say.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Is now, if anyone asks me like what do you think?
Do you think Thanksgiving is problematic? The same way they
do with a biologist, and trans be like, well, I'm
not a chef, so I.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Can't have it. Yeah, that's Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
You know, I'm not a professional Clay. She is a
race communist. There's actually a very good essay I was
up last night reading and I want to give credit
for it that I read. I think it was in
Tablet mag but I have to track it down. Team
help me find it. A very good essay just delving
into how race communism, which started really just more as
(11:33):
a kind of a catch all pejorative for left wing
idiocy online. I use it though, knowing quite a bit
about the history of actual communism and this author she
did the same thing. That is what we are seeing
it is race instead of class infused in every policy,
in every action, and every thought of government of society,
and it can never be fixed. It can there is
(11:55):
no right. So it's an excuse for constant agitation and
constant self victimization, the pretense of victimization. And Francesca Hong
of Wisconsin is a race communist, that is her ideology.
So everything has to be seen through this lens of race.
And what's fascinating is that the race communists are coming,
(12:17):
you know, coming about now in this country at a
time when there are so many different races and new
arrivals here as well, that how are they piling into
the history of you know, oppression in America or the
Native Americans. You know, does Francesca Hong I'm gonna go
out a limb here. Is her parentage Asian or is
you know she have Asian background. I'm gonna take a
(12:37):
guess she cared about like Mao's murder of sixty million
people in her country?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Does that? Ever? No, only the Iroquois.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
She weeps for the Iroquois, not her grandparents' generation who
were probably being murdered by Chinese communists and by Mao. So,
you know, I think we're seeing how this is completely
spiraling into nonsense and absurdity, but also a lot of
declayor a lot of believers she might become the governor, right,
So well, it's two sided.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
This is where I think this ties in with the
primary that's going on in Michigan today, because I think Democrats,
in their anger and in their far left wing leadership
of the socialists, are potentially leading their party off a
cliff and they may be nominating people that cannot win
(13:25):
in purple state. Why do you think after mom Donni
became the most powerful prominent Democrat in the whole country
after winning the mayorship of the biggest city in America,
being an abject race communist loon, why do you think
that like this the city New York City is probably
an eighty twenty Democrat locale Michigan and Wisconsin is a
(13:47):
fifty to fifty state. So I think the moderate voters
who ultimately decide these elections. Remember Trump won Michigan, he
won Wisconsin. Ron Johnson, our buddy, is capable of getting
elected in Wisconsin. And I think that New York City
is crazy. And this is actually where I would argue
my suggestion that by picking a crazy left winger. It
(14:11):
might actually lead New York City off the deep end,
but be utterly destructive for the Democrat Party overall. So
I'm optimistic that what works in New York City is
not going to work in Wisconsin and Michigan. If Mom
Donnie liked candidates like Hong and l Siyed win in
Michigan and Wisconsin, then I will start to hit the
(14:34):
panic button here because it would suggest that a candidate
like that can win nationwide.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
But that's what I'm telling you. I think they're competitive, Clay,
I don't. I don't think they're I don't think they're
a joke, even in Michigan or Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I think I don't know that I analogy, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I mean, it's going to come down to two or
three points either way in a fifty to fifty state.
But I don't think Hong will win and I don't
think l sim win. But shouldn't it be shouldn't it
be a little alarming to you that forty eight percent
of Wisconsin heights might vote for a race communist. So
you may be right, but you're talking about a goal
line stand like this is something to celebrate. This is
(15:09):
not this is not ideal, but if they had nominated
a normal Democrat, I think Wisconsin would win. The Democrats
would win Wisconsin, and I think they would win Michigan.
I think they may lose both over the choices that
they're making, which I do think are Mom Donnie influenced,
but don't play as well there as they do in
(15:30):
New York City.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I like that You're gonna have to keep this optimism
up because I am very concerned about the midterms, very concerned.
So you're gonna be our optimistic guy. I was not
concerned about twenty four for these nominees. I told you
guys almost exactly two years ago. Trump is gonna Trump
is going to absolutely kick ass in the twenty four election.
We are going to smoke these fools. They are toast.
Kamla has no chance. I am very worried about this midterm.
(15:54):
I'll just tell you right now. I am highly concerned.
I'm just expressing concern. I want the messaging to be good.
I want things to be good going into it. By
the way, the piece was the Racial Crossroads Compactmag not
Tablet Mag, Compactmag dot Com by Helen Andrews.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Very much worth reading.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
We could put it up on maybe Claymbuck dot com
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Welcome back in Clay and buck rolling through the toothday
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Michiganders voting right now.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
We'll come back and talk a little bit about that
decision that they have Hailey Stevens versus Abdul Lsied and
Meghan Kelly weighing in encouraging me to get the WNBA franchise,
bought the Nashville Balls and be the most inclusive team
out there. So many of you reacting to that. We
have some awesome talkbacks and clips on that as well.
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Plus David Ellison, who's trying to buy Warner Brothers. We've
talked a little bit about this. I love these media battles.
He has a New York Times editorial where he says
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Clay born and raised, son of Nashville. Me a Manhattan kid.
Now I'm in South Florida. Clay stayed there, but he
also has he spends a lot of time in Florid.
I've been to Michigan, Clay I think twice, maybe three times.
Have not spent a lot of time in Michigan. Have
never been to Detroit, which is definitely a you know,
(19:13):
a thing that I need to ameliorate, but Michigan statewide,
so you can weigh in on, you know, all things Michigan,
Michigan or for US here Michigan statewide primary today.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Just a few things.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
The governor, you got an open seat because incumbent governor
I'm sorry, incumbent Democrat Governor Gretchen Whitmer is term limited out.
I will say we can put a pin in this
for our conversation here some of our Michigan listeners. We
have some very robust, very robust Michigan audience.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
They say that we're not factoring in Whitmer enough for
VP talk specifically, which I think is is fair. So
we can return to that. But in the Republican primary,
you got John James, Perry, Johnson, Michael. They're on the
bat but Cox is on the ballot, and so is
this other guy who suspended.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
They suspended though.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
So really it's the main thing here is you've got
that governor's race, and then you've got the Senate race.
And in the Senate race, it's a very interesting stuff
going on here. I think Trump put it well, Clay,
why don't we let Trump set the table.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Here on the Michigan Senate primary for the Democrats this
is cut thirteen. Play it well.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
You have a very interesting group who I'm really voting
for is Mike Rogers because I think he's going to
be a great senator. But you have a communist versus
a socialist. That's the way I look at it. You
have a communist versus a socialist. It looks like the
communist is leading. We're talking about for the Democrat primary,
but for the Republican you have a very good man
(20:47):
and he should be able to he should be able
to win.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
A communist versus a socialist, Mike Rogers up against them,
here is the communist in that equation. Clay abdul Al sayed,
cut four teen. Listen to this and then on the
removal of the whole people.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Colun did on the idea that we could comarage on
whether or not people as a function of the color
of their skin could be enslaved to bother people. Chal
did under the idea that all people are created equal,
all men, but that only meant certain men phenomena.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, it doesn't sound like this guy loves America, at
least the ideals of the founding. He thinks that America
is all about racism. Abdul Al sayed, Like I said
about the race communists, I would wonder how long mister
El Sayed's family has been in this country that they
have had to suffer so much of the racism of
two hundred years ago. But what make you of this
(21:42):
primary as it stands? Good, Sir A L.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Sayad is going to win.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Mike Rodgers versus Abdul l Sayed is going to be
one of the most impactful of all Senate races coming
up this fall, and I think Mike Rodgers will have
a very good chance to win. Now, a couple of
things that are important. I don't believe team. You can
correct me on this if I'm wrong. I don't believe
Michigan has elected a Republican statewide in the Senate since
(22:12):
nineteen ninety six. Mike Rogers lost by around fifteen thousand
votes in twenty twenty four. Obviously, Trump won the state
of Michigan, if I'm remembering correctly, by around fifty thousand
votes in a very close race. A couple of things
that are going to play in here. And I do
know the state of Michigan well because my wife is
from Michigan. I had never been to Michigan before I
(22:34):
started dating her, so I have since been to Michigan
a ton, But I would be a bit like you
Buck if I hadn't happened to meet Laura. I imagine
that I would not have been to Michigan. I would
not know that Northern Michigan in the summer is one
of the greatest places on the planet. I would not
certainly have gotten engaged in northern Michigan and married in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
So all of those things.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
My wife, Laura still has a ton of family that
is up in southeast Michigan, and so we spend a
lot of time there. So I feel like I know
the state pretty well within the context of that, and
certainly my wife knows the state very very well, having
been born and raised there. Here is what is unique
about Michigan. There is a huge The largest Arab population
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as a percentage of the overall population is in the
Detroit area dearborn in particular. Trump actually won a huge
percentage of those votes in twenty twenty four because they
did not respond well to Kamala Harris. Those votes presumably
will all go to Abdul l sayed. There is also
a huge Jewish population in the suburbs of Detroit, in
(23:40):
the Oakland County area in particular, and the question that
will be paramount there is what will happen with that
vote in the Jewish vote. Here's another part of this book.
The black voting bloc has not responded at all well
to abdul Lsayed. In fact, Hailey's Stevens is getting overwhelming
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percentages of the black vote.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
How will abdul.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
L Sayed be able to bring in large numbers of
Black voters? And then here is what I think is
going to be incredibly key in addition to the Jewish
the Black vote. I cannot imagine that abdul l Sayed
will play at all very well in the northern parts
of Michigan, which are overwhelmingly read overwhelmingly vote Trump. Will
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they show up in an off cycle election without Trump
on the ballot. This is why to me, this race
is going to be one of the most fascinating to
watch in the entire country, if not the most fascinating
race to watch in the entire country.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
So I think that's where the means in ballasis. Yeah, No,
I think that was good. I think that that was
high level radio Well done, sir. If I may say,
I would just point us for a second back to
abdul Il say ed because I mused aloud. Remember he's
talking about how the founding of America was all about racism,
(25:01):
and this is just real. He's giving a speech and
he's talking about how it's all about effectively white supremacy.
White people, white people are bad. White people have done
all these bad things I do. I'll say it's parents
came here from Egypt. They have no experience of the
you know, the legacy of slavery. They are not black,
(25:23):
they were not institutionally oppressed by this. All real things, right,
It is fascinating to me to watch non white immigrants
to America adopt this framework where they are aggrieved in
a way that is specific and unique to the black
(25:43):
American experience. In fact, our entire racial spoils system was
one set up to be temporary, as it ended up
being somewhat temporary.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
But two clay, it was for the descendants of slaves.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yes, people who could point to this country did something
immorl and wrong to my grandfather, my great great grandfather,
et cetera. Now we can talk about how that we know,
how when do you decide that enough is enough? And
what about people born today? And why should people being
You know, I still I oppose actually affirmative action always
(26:22):
and forever because.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
It will just create more problems. But put that aside
for a moment.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
The son of Egyptian immigrants to America, I would be
willing to bet, because they went through quite a lot
to get here, that his Egyptian immigrant parents loved coming
here and had a better life here than they ever
would have in Egypt. I'm gonna tell you something, just
gonna help you guys, skip to the end here. Egypt
not so great. I've spent time there really uh dysfunctional,
(26:50):
and the streets are very dirty. You see the pyramids,
and you'll have a million people trying to scam you
at the pyramid. It's not fun.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Egypt, Yeah, there's some nice there's a nice part. It's
almost every country except for like North Korea and Somalia.
But Egypt, you can skip it. I'm sure they were
very happy to come here.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
And Clay, why does he adopt this narrative though in
public of America rooted and all this bad stuff. It's
root in all this bad stuff. But your family won
the lottery, maybe literally in a sense of an immigration lottery.
But your family won the lottery and being able to
come here, and instead of gratitude, you give us lectures.
(27:29):
You give lectures to the American people about how this
place is so racist.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yes, all of that I co sign with.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Here's why he's doing it, Buck, because Democrats have convinced
themselves this is how you get black voters to show up.
And Abdul al say Ed is deeply behind with black
voters right now in the primary because James Clyburn and
other black elected officials decided to endorse Hailey Stevens because
they think Abdul Lsayed is not electable in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
So this is the look. This is the root evil.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I would say of many Democrat Party ideas is they
are all directly connected to the concept of identity politics
as a guiding principle for every single decision that you
need to make. Right, it's the oppression pyramid. Everything that
occurs in the United States is seen through the prism
(28:24):
of who is the bigger victim, and that determines everything. Buck,
this is where I saw sports going, and this is
why I got so frustrated. It got to the point
where you couldn't say, hey, I don't think this quarterback
is good if he was black. Certainly Rush experience this
because he got fired twenty years ago for talking about this.
(28:45):
You can't criticize an athlete because of his race, or
you can't criticize the WNBA because it's a black lesbian league,
because immediately left wingers line up and say, oh, the
reason why you're criticizing that is rooted and id identity politics.
When ultimately America is a meritocratic country. The best man
(29:05):
or the best woman should win, not the best man
pretending to be a woman, but that should apply across
all of society. And so I don't think Abdul Lsied
believes this. This is the part that is particularly frustrating.
I think to your point, he and many other recent
first generation immigrants understand better than anyone the promise of America,
(29:26):
but they feel compelled as Democrat officials to not sell
the promise of America. They have to sell the peril.
They have to sell the victimized cultural landscape. And really,
I know, we got a lot of black listeners to
us right now. This to me is what has led
to the emasculation of many black men, because they're actually
being told by the Democrat Party. You can't succeed in
(29:49):
this country because the country is aligned against you, and
when you teach weakness, you get weakness back as a result.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Well, I actually think er goes in fact, this goes
back to the race communism piece in Compact mag that
I mentioned, and will invite it Helen Andrews will invite
her on to talk about it because she goes through.
I will say our analysis here Clay about the Israel
Hamas thing was ahead of its time and so far
as the American left just views it as a white
(30:19):
versus brown struggle. American Muslims and Muslims around the world
view it as a Jewish Muslim issue, but in this
country it's white and brown. And what white American Jews
who are leftists, not conservative Jews, they already know this.
What they don't understand is that they actually are going
to be under constant pressure and threat from the identity
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politics framework, from this race communism that you and I
talk about. That's why the Scott Galloway thing, I think,
hit with so many people where he's like, what do
you mean I support your Marxist redistributionistet, Scott, You're rich
and white?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
They don't like you.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
They'll use you now, but you're a rich white Jewish guy.
Eventually they are taking is he Jewish? I thought he
was Jewish?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I could he's male, got to put the mail cart
in there. He's rich and white.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, I made I made a joke about this a
while back that it's like the worst I was been
a poor white guy my whole life. I've only gotten
rich in the past couple of years. I didn't know
that I was he is Jewish, but he is Jewish.
I thought he was the most hated person you and
I because I became a rich white guy, like after
being a poor white guy for a long time, and
now everybody hates me. On the left, I would also
(31:27):
point out that there are uh, this is something we
got one hundred percent right about October seventh, and a
lot of Jewish people are still becoming aware of it
because they look around and they say, wait a minute,
Jews are just seen as white. This is what a
lot of Jewish people they're like, wait, no, no, no, I'm
a religious minority.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And you're right.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Jewish people have been more pressed, arguably in the twentieth
century than any group on the planet. Right, I mean,
I think if you had to go back to twentieth
century history and say which group religious or at the
or racial group has been the most discriminated against in
the twentieth century, the Holocaust is kind of tough to
get passed when it comes to comparing them to everyone else.
(32:10):
And many Jewish people marched with black people in the
nineteen sixties for basic civil rights, and a lot of
them are listening to us right now. Who are historic Democrats?
But after October seventh, you're finding out.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Even though the brown people showed up, stormed your gates,
murdered innocent women and children, innocent men in your kibbutz is,
they took two hundred and fifty of your people hostage,
many of whom, as you pointed out buck are not
even white, right, but they're seen as white as Jews,
and so you're white, you have to be the bad guy.
(32:43):
The identity politics prism does not allow brown people to
oppress or attack white people, and so Jewish people are
the problem here.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
So the Khmer Rouge, another bunch of communist psychopaths who
killed a few million people. The Khmer Rouge, initially in Cambodia,
just to give you some of this.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
The guy.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
The Black Book of Communism is a great book. I'm
looking at it right now. I highly recommend it to you.
You learn about a lot of what communism actually did
around the world.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Clay.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
The early days, there were intellectuals, Cambodian intellectuals who returned
from their study abroad in places like France of Marxist
theory to help the revolution. And they think, but guess what.
The revolution decided that intellectuals were a problem. So the
intellectuals who came back to give them the framework for
the Marxism that they were then going to institute were arrested,
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tortured and executed. That was like nineteen seventy eight, nineteen
seventy guess what, everybody, The revolution devours its children.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
This is what happens. Read a little bit.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
We got to wake up robes Vierre. Did it end
well for him? Go back and read about the French
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