March 5, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers an in‑depth analysis of the escalating U.S.‑Iran conflict, global security concerns, and evolving Middle East geopolitics under President Donald Trump. Clay and Buck open the hour with the latest battlefield updates on the U.S.–Israel joint air campaign against Iran, focusing on the destruction of Iranian “missile cities,” underground bunkers, and mobile missile launchers. They highlight President Trump’s confident assessment of the conflict and his assertion that the U.S. is dramatically degrading Iran’s offensive capabilities.
A major portion of Hour 1 centers on the geopolitical consequences of the ongoing conflict. Clay and Buck examine the paralysis of international shipping in the Strait of Hormuz, rising global oil prices, and how extended military engagement could impact U.S. domestic politics—especially with Democrats preparing to tie gas‑price volatility to Trump’s foreign‑policy strategy ahead of the 2026 midterms. They also discuss the administration’s unprecedented stance that President Trump intends to influence the selection of Iran’s next leader following the assassination of the Ayatollah, raising questions about regime change, constitutional monarchy possibilities, and whether Iran’s military factions might accept a U.S.-favored successor.
The hosts then explore historical parallels, comparing modern drone‑ and intelligence-driven warfare to conflicts such as the Gulf War and the 2003 Iraq invasion, suggesting that advances in technology have made “boots on the ground” less essential. This leads to a broader conversation about whether internal Iranian opposition could rise up without military backing and why genuine regime change is impossible unless parts of Iran’s armed forces defect.
The hour also touches on U.S.–Israel relations, antisemitism across the region, and the risks associated with Israel potentially deploying ground forces into Iran. Clay and Buck discuss the strategic role of the Kurds, lessons from Afghanistan, and the logistical reality of attempting to “midwife a coup” inside Iran.
A significant segment features an interview with Yael Eckstein, President of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, speaking live from Israel. She describes the war as a battle between good and evil, emphasizes how October 7 transformed Israeli security priorities, and shares personal insights—including her daughter serving on the Gaza border in the IDF. Eckstein discusses Israel’s vision of victory, the spiritual and emotional toll on Israeli families, and the strengthening of alliances through the Abraham Accords, including hopes for future normalization between Israel and Saudi Arabia.
The hour concludes with listener calls and strategic discussion about the feasibility of arming Iranian dissidents, challenges of overthrowing entrenched regimes, and how Iran’s internal power structure—half a million armed personnel plus Basij militias—makes civilian uprisings unrealistic without military cooperation. Clay and Buck close Hour 1 by forecasting how the Iran crisis could shape global politics, U.S. elections, and stability across the Middle East while also previewing upcoming coverage on the Texas Senate race and ongoing scrutiny of candidate James Talarico.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Thursday edition of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. Great to be here with all
of you across this great land of ours. We have
updates on the air campaign against Iran, the War from
the Sky, continuing on President Trump weighing in with his
assessment of how this is going so far. Concerns rising
(00:23):
as the Strait of Horror Moves has become a bit
of a ghost town, not a lot of shipping going
through there because of concerns about Iranian reprisals, oil prices
jumping a little bit, some are starting to hit the
Pannikin button. On that one. We will look at the
analysis and where things actually are and what is likely
(00:45):
to happen. More on that Texas Senate race. More on
James Tallarico, and I have to say some of the
chatter online is, guys, we have to hold some of
these clips until closer to the election because some of
them are truly astonishing, and the fact that Democrats believe
that this is a person who will win a Senate
(01:06):
seat in Texas. I wouldn't want this person in charge
of the mister softy stand on the corner. This guy
is a loon. This guy is crazy, but we'll get
into it. But he quotes the Bible. So if you
work for the New York Times, anybody who kind of
sounds like this and quotes the Bible has to be
a godly man and so he must know something. Even
(01:27):
though he thinks that Jesus all about trans all about
transing the youth, Big Jesus huge into transing the kids.
According to James Tallerico, we'll talk more about this, and
also I'm a little too excited about this actually, but
apparently it's not the first of its kind. But a rule,
(01:48):
a rule for the Skies has nothing to do with
our air warn iran, a rule for the Skies when
it comes to air travel, that is, I think in
defense of Western civilization. I think finally the savages are
on their back heels thanks to a United Airlines rule
(02:08):
that if you you know, you know, Clay. I don't
want to get into right now because we have more
important things. But this gets me very excited. And you
know what it has to do with headphone usage on planes.
The savages can no longer have their way with just
playing their iPads and their phones with no headphones. So
we all have to hear whatever garbage they're watching or listening.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
To it is.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
There's a bunch We're gonna have some fun and also
talk about serious things that are going on right now.
I love the James Tallarico story because this thing is
just an utter disaster. We're gonna go to Israel, by
the way, at the bottom of this hour with Yell
Extein and hear what it's like in Israel right now,
and then our buddy Ryan Gardusky's going to be on
with us to talk to some of this Tallarico and
(02:57):
decision making as it pertains to the Senate as the
primaries have started. But Buck, I think the biggest and
most important thing about Iran right now, if you look
at the overall trajectory of where we're headed, is what
is the exit strategy for Iran in the context of
(03:19):
to what extent are they going to reach a leader
that we are okay with? Because I would suggest I'm
curious if you would how you would analyze this Iran
strategy right now I think is going to be, Hey,
we'll just take as many bombs as necessary, and the
president is not going to stay committed to this long
(03:41):
range and all we've got to do is with stand
four or five weeks of significant bombing and then we'll
stick our heads up, see who is still around, and
we'll just elevate somebody. I think this is what the
government in power right now is thinking. The next diet
is not going to be a lot different than the past.
(04:02):
Dyea tola, and we will try to rebuild from the
destruction that is there. I think the question is to
what extent is the new leader signed off on by
America and what is the time frame? Because I think
the longer this goes on, the tougher it gets for Trump.
But the reality is when we're bombing from a distance,
(04:22):
I don't think it really impacts a lot of Americans
in a very significant way.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Well, this is what I mentioned war angle, the oil
price is situation. The oil prices spike is something that
certainly if this continues on and if it happens along
the lines what we saw with the Russia Ukraine War,
where I think it got up to one hundred and
twenty something dollars a barrel at one point because of
concerns over access to fossil fuels, to gas and natural
(04:54):
gas and oil. So that's something that they have to
take into consideration here the Straight of Horn moves he
is a strategic choke point. About twenty percent of the
world's global oil supply does go through that straight, and
there are currently hundreds of ships, tankers, et cetera idling,
not really sure where they're going and what they're going
(05:15):
to do because they're not going to be able to
enter or exit the straight under the current circumstance. That
has to change. Trump meanwhile saying this has cut fourteen.
Things are going great from the aerial warfront, even better
than he expected them to play fourteen.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
We're doing very well on the warfront.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
To put it mildly, I would say, somebody said, on
the scale of ten, where would you're ready?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I said, about a fifteen.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
The leadership is just rapidly going.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Everybody that.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Seems to want to be a leader, they end up dead.
And it's an amazing, amazing thing that's taking place. And
he's saying on a scale of ten, I would rate
it about fifteen. Seems to be very pleased with how
this is going so far that we are in a
position to essentially destroy all of the offensive capability. But
(06:10):
one of the big parts of this is tracking and
destroying what they call the missile cities. Wall Street Journal
had a big piece on this. These underground bunkers essentially
where they store a lot of missiles, and then they
have these mobile missile launchers. Those are like the first
things that US and Israeli planes are looking to pick off.
Not only are we picking them off at the moment they
(06:31):
move to try to fire, but also we're destroying those
bunkers in place, caving them in, and so all of
a sudden, thousands of missiles will no longer be accessible
to the Iranian regime. The military out gunning that we
are seeing right now is I think far beyond what
a lot of people would have expected. I think that's
(06:52):
completely right.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
And again, one of the things that is so interesting,
and you know this because you're a military history person
as well, is conflict accelerates technological advance, and initially wars
are fought on the technology of the past war. Everybody says, hey,
this would have beaten the past war, and then you
(07:14):
start to see an evolution rapidly. You've seen it with
Ukraine and Russia. I think there is an argument and
I'm not sure you know how long it's going to exist.
But I think there's an argument that boots on the
ground is not a requirement anymore like it would have
been in the past, because you can find and track
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people through the tech, technological sophistication and evolution that we
have seen in a way that didn't exist in the past.
And let me hit you with this question, Buck, because
I was thinking about it this morning as I was
doing my prep. When we did the first Gulf War,
I think a lot of people thought, hey, we should
have continued on. This is the one in nineteen ninety ish,
(07:57):
and we could have taken out Saddam Hussein. We didn't,
and then we went back in in two thousand and
three and all of the disaster that ensued from there.
In today's technology, we would have just been able to
wipe out Saddam Hussein without ever having to have the
mass troops in the same way. And I wonder how
(08:18):
that would have changed nineteen ninety and two thousand and
three if we have been able to decapitate Saddam Hussein
like we did with the Aya Tola. And I do
think that President Trump, who just said to Axios Kahmane's
sun is a lightweight. This is their reports that the
(08:38):
Ayatola's forty some odd young son is going to be elevated.
I have to be involved in the appointment, President Trump
to Axios, I have to be involved in the appointment.
So the current kid that they're trying to elevate, I say, kid,
he's in his forties, according to Trump, is a lightweight.
And Trump says, I need to be involved in the
(09:01):
choice that they make as to who the next leader is.
So I think what you're seeing is the White House
sees this as a Venezuela like situation. Now the wild
card here is is it possible that there could be
people out there who are rising up inside of Iran.
(09:22):
You're skeptical on that that it's more difficult without us
being boots on a ground to actually have a regime change.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Well, I gotta tell you. And we have so many veterans,
g WAT veterans listening right now, many of whom serve
tours of combat in Iraq, many of whom served multiple tours,
spent years of their lives over there. And you start
talking about using the Kurds as the cleanup force for Iran,
(09:50):
which is being reported all over the place, and now
the White House has said no, no, we're not confirming that.
We're not denying it. They're not confirming it. But everybody
who remembers the days in Iraq knows that the Kurds,
they have a utility. They they are good allies for
what they are in the areas that are Kurdish. But
(10:11):
the moment that you start telling people who are non
Kurdish that the Kurdish overlord, so to speak, have arrived,
you get big problems. There's big problems in Iraq and
it could cause I think, big problems in Iran. And
I think that's why the administer, the administration knows. I
don't think they're going to do that. I think they'll
want the Kurds to just do what they did in Iraq,
(10:32):
stabilize the more Kurdish portions of Iran. And the point
here is Clay, we got to find somebody else that
has some kind of federalist unifying capability here to get them.
First of all, you have to get out of You
have to ouse the people who still have control of
the guys with the guns, which has not happened yet.
(10:52):
We've taken out the major military equipment, but until people
aren't afraid that men with masks and ak forty sevens
will come in the middle night and execute them in
front of their families for speaking out. This thing is
a long way from over. We have to get through
that phase, which means we need somebody with ground ground
strength of some level, and then we have to have
(11:14):
somebody who will oversee a transition to elections and a Basically,
I think what they want is a constitutional monarchy. Rather,
I think that would be the best situation. You bring
back the Shaw, you have a constitution, you have elections.
The Shaw is kind of a figurehead for a period
of time. Maybe that's the way, but this is the
big missing piece here. I mean, I feel much better
(11:35):
about what's going to happen in Venezuela, or I should
say higher confidence level about what's going to happen in
Venezuela over the next three years than I're on right now.
It's just an unknown.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I think all that is is well said. Here's one
thing that I would I would say, I think the
way we could get out as we declare victory, we
allow someone that we don't think is actually anywhere near
as bad as the Ayatola to come to power. And
here's the stick. The cart is Okay, you're the new
(12:06):
ruler of Iran. Here's the stick.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Buck.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
We have demonstrated that we can kill any leader of
Iran basically whenever the president of the United States or
Israel decides to do so. And I would think that
if you get a new ruler, that the president is
in some way in favor of that in the back
of their mind. Knowing wait a minute, that could be
(12:29):
me too, makes it far more likely that they are
going to follow the direction of the president. And I
think two of large extent Marco Rubio and look, that's
the deal that Delse Rodriguez has right now. In Venezuela.
They if you read what happened there, they said, hey,
we took Maduro. She was like, no way, and they
(12:50):
were like, here's a video of him. He's in our possession.
You either are going to work with us, or we're
going to take you out and prosecute you too. And
I have to believe that those are the kind of
conversations that are going to take place in Iran.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
In an ideal world, you would end up with a
constitutional monarchy, and you would have sane rulers, and you
would have a brand new regime that comes in and
Iran would become a flourishing marketplace of ideas in a
way that it was prior to the rise of the
Islamic Republic. That might be too optimistic. So having a
(13:26):
ruler that we know doesn't have the ability to get
nuclear weapons is a supreme success. As we said yesterday,
if we could go back in time and keep North
Korea from having nuclear weapons, the world would be much safer.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Here.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
We may well have done that for Iran. And what
I come back to is this is the antithesis of
what most politicians do. Most politicians just worry about the
time when they're in office, and then they leave big
messages for the next politician to have to try to
clean up. Trump is making, here, to his credit, a
generational decision that he will not personally necessarily benefit from
(14:03):
very much in the next two years and change that
he has to be president of the United States, and
that is actually incredibly commendable. Trump is trying to do
a lot of things right now that I think are
generational in nature that will not injure directly to his benefit.
In fact, if you look, as you mentioned at the
price of gas in the short term. It honestly has
(14:26):
a political cost that is more substantial for him than
the benefit that he will get out of it.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
We shall see. That's my biggest takeaway from all of this.
People that are saying it's great, people that are saying
it's terrible. No one knows yet. I have a lot
of faith in Trump and his team, but it is faith.
It is not a done deal. So let's see what
they're able to pull off here they have just like
with tariffs, I said, Trump has earned the right to
(14:55):
have us say, all right, sir, see this through. This
is why we elected you.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
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Speaker 3 (16:07):
Welcome back in play Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are
talking about the latest situation on Iran again the President
saying that he wants to be involved in picking the
next the leader of Iran. I don't think either of
us expect for there to be boots on the ground.
And again, I think the technology as such that the
new leader of Iran is going to know that he
(16:28):
could be killed at any moment. And when that is
the reality operating in the back of your head, maybe
you're more likely to be a partner of the United
States and Israel as well. But Steven Oklahoma, you think
Israel is going to put put boots on the ground.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I think we can discount the ferocity of the Israel
and what is the possibility that they go boots on
the ground.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
We bring in the apaches, the ward hog, We've already
got the b fifty twos there, so let's just do it.
I think Buck My take on that would be I
would severely if they asked, Israel putting boots on the
ground is a really bad idea to me, much worse
than us.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yes, yes, much.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
This is something maybe a surprise of some people. There
is a lot of anti Semitism in the Muslim world.
Just just let you know. The whole Israel thing not
great in a lot of parts, and the Israel in
a country that's getting bombed and showing up not not
gonna go over well. I'm just gonna tell you this
(17:35):
right now, as somebody who used to read the Gie
Hottest intercepts when they were calling me either a crusader
or Jew, that's what they used to call us in Iraq.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, it would not go over well. Clay, Yeah, I
don't think that's a good play. I think actually, the
US being involved in the selection of the next Iranian
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Speaker 1 (18:54):
Welcome back into Clay and bock yle xteam joins us
now from Israel. She is, of course the president of
the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Eiel, you are
over there, you are hearing what's going on and what's
on the minds of the Israeli people, and certainly have
a sense of tensions in the region. Tell us what
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the latest is.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Well, what we're seeing is the war of good versus
evil come very very clear to fruition. I think what
we're seeing is spiritual warfare that everyone is tapping into,
and we're starting to see how the light always shines,
the good always wins, and we're seeing America and Israel
come together in order to stand for those values of freedom,
(19:42):
of security, of protection, and of course here in Israel,
all of our hearts are going out to the brave
servicemen and woman who were killed in this fight for freedom.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
What is the general goal in your mind? Yell, and
it's great to hear from you. Look forward to seeing
you person again. What do you think that general consensus
of the average Israeli citizen is now for what victory
looks like in Iran? We were just talking about that
off the top. What do Americans what does the Trump
(20:15):
administration continue to can consider to be victory, what is
considered victory in Israel? What's the goal now?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Well, October seventh changed everything for Israel and also, I
believe for Americans that were looking on. Up until October seventh,
there were many enemies who said death Israel, death to America.
Hamas right on Israel's border was gearing up for war,
and our position was always they could say whatever they want,
but as long as they're not acting, we're not going
to preemptively do anything to stap them. And after October seventh,
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what the Americans and Israelis saw very clearly was when
there is a dangerous enemy country who's saying death to America,
death to Israel, when they're standing up on the parliament
floor and they're burning the American flag and the Israeli flag,
when they're saying, first we're going to go and kill
all the Saturday people, the Jews, and then we're going
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to go for the Sunday people and kill all of them.
What we learned is that we have to take that seriously.
And so what that means is that we cannot let
these people who are not only oppressing their own nation
but holding the whole Western world hostage. We can't just
kick the ball down the road anymore. We need to
be brave for what we believe in. And I believe
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that God blesses when we have the right intentions, when
it's to free the Western world to stand for the
sanctity of life. We see enormous blessings and miracles that
are taking place every single.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Dayspring the y Isle Exstein of the International Fellowship of
Christians and Jews. Now she is in Israel. Yeah, could
you speak to how things have changed with the Trump
administration obviously playing a large role this, but between the
relationship between the state of Israel and non Iranian Muslim
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countries in the region, the Golf States and others, because
there seems to be well more sanity for sure coming
from that part of the world with respect to Israel.
I was wondering if you could speak to how that
is manifesting.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
We have seen miracles, Clay and viag and you are
here on the ground that you were able to witness
some of that. No one thought that the Abraham Accords
would happen, and then once they happened and took place,
an agreement between Israel and America and this Arab world.
So many countries that have historically always been enemies of
Israel suddenly to have an agreement. No one thought that
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would happen. And then they said, okay, they signed an agreement,
but it's not going to hold. And now here we
are years later, where there is a strategic alliance and
partnership between these golf stays, between Muslims, between Jews, between Christians,
everyone standing together in this pursuit of freedom and the
sanctity of life. And it's something that President Trump saw
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that he believed in, that he worked towards, and he realized,
just as we see in the scriptures Hachem osla moitinom strengths,
we have to show in order to bring peace, that
God blesses the nation with strength, and then God blesses
the nation with peace. And so what we're seeing today
with our neighbors is something historic. I Ran thought that
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by bombing the UAE and Dubai and even some European countries,
that they would turn the whole world against Israel, but
really they're just taking off the mask to see how
dangerous Iran is and how much we need to come together.
Those of us who sanctify life and these Judeo Christian
values to make sure the future is brighter for our
children and grandchildren.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
One of this super positive potential outcomes here is Saudi
Arabia normalizing relations with Israel. Other countries have already started it.
The Abraham Accords have been a tremendous success, I think, y'all,
and you may disagree, but I think that was actually
the motivation for why the attack of October seventh happened,
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because they were trying to derail the positive progress that
was being made there. How optimistic are you, Let's leave
aside the next few months, Let's talk about the next
few years. You've lived in Israel for a while. How
optimistic are you about the future for peace? Have there
been a time when you have been more optimistic in
the past? How would you assess the larger picture here
(24:37):
right now?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
What I know for a fact is that darkness hates light.
And so when you're talking about Saudi Arabia potentially joining
this Abraham Accord, that would be historic, that would change
the entire Middle East and would change the entire world.
Really through this alliance between Israel and Saudi Arabia, between
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the Western world and Saudi Arabia. Yes, I think darkness
tried to do everything in order to destroy that. But
we know at the end of the day, from the
stories and the scriptures of Bilam and Balak, those who
tried to curse end up blessing. We know from the
story of perm that just took place, that wicked Hayman
tried to kill all the Jews, but in the end
he ended up being hung on the same gallows that
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he prepared for the innocent people. This War of October
seventh began because many people like you, believe that they
wanted to stop the Abraham Accords from growing, they wanted
to stop normalization. But we're seeing as the same historic
biblical story that we've seen time and time again, they
went out to curse and they ended up blessing.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, your daughter is in the IDF right now. I
think a lot of Americans who have military members in
their families think about this battle in a different way
as a result, because they're directly connected to virtually everyone
in Israel with children has children in the IDF, grandchildren
(26:06):
in the IDF. I think a lot of Americans still
have not really understood that. So can you talk about
not only obviously you represent the IFCJ and you have
a lot of responsibility on that front, but you're also
a mom with a kid in the IDF, and so
are a lot of moms and dads and grandmas and grandpas.
How does that impact the way this battle and this
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war hits in Israel and maybe a way that's different
than other places.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
It's a great question because for each one of us
it's so personal. My nineteen year old daughter right now
is on the border of Gaza, protecting this land, making
sure that no terrorists can come in. When I dropped
her off at the army base after she had a
few days off, and she went so proud, and I said,
are you Are you scared? And she said, Mummy, of
course I'm scared. But I believe what I'm doing is meaningful.
(26:58):
I believe what I'm doing is not only for protecting
the people of Israel, but protecting the values that I
hold dear that are very strong in America and Europe
and everywhere else. If I'm not standing here, the darkness
will spread. And so for each one of us is
personal in the sense of I think my prayers are
full of maybe more tears. I think the hope for
(27:19):
peace is not just a saying, but it's in my heart.
It's that my children are on the front lines. I
know my son in a year is going to be
joining the army, and so it's very personal. But that
personal association with this war, that personal prayer that comes
between every single news headline, every single siren, and every
(27:42):
single piece of information that's coming out of this war.
It's holding two maybe you could say conflicting emotions, but
really they're the same. On one hand, I want this
war to be over. I want this to end, and
on the other hand, I know that this is a
war that is needed to protect my children and my grandchildren,
(28:04):
that it can't end until we have fulfilled our objectives.
And while we're in the middle of fighting this war,
what we can do every one of us. My daughter's
on the front lines, but you know what, I'm going
bomb sheltered, bomb sheltered, delivering food Holocaust survivors. My daughter
is on the frontline, but I'm going to schools and
placing bomb shelters on behalf of the fellowship. What I
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see is that everyone can do their part to bring
more light. We can't just sit back and complain. We
can't just curse the darkness. We can't just be consumed
by self righteous anger. We have to go out and help.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yell, I appreciate you coming on telling us what's going
on in Israel right now. Stay safe, keep your family
safe as well, and know that a lot of people
all over the United States are praying for you, guys,
and for everybody who is involved in fighting evil right now.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
We feel it. Thank you so much, God bless you.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
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Welcome back in here at you play and Buck and Uh,
We're gonna be talking more about all of the Iran
news today. We'll also get into the James Tallerico situation
in Texas. UH, and we'll talk to our friend Ryan
Gerdusky about them. Where some of that is President Trump
reportedly going to endorse in the Texas primary, which is
an interesting change of pace. So we shall we shall
(31:12):
get into some of that. Podcast listener David in Texas
wants to weigh in on the Iran situation. Play h
David in Texas. I have a thought to allies USA,
Israel and anyone else that wants to play along knows
where the rallies are happening against the regime in Iran air.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Drop weapons to the people.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
We keep talking about how the biggest problem.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
For the people is that they're unarmed.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Well, get them armed and they can overthrow their own government.
I wish it was that easy.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yeah, Well here's the challenge. It's one thing to say, hey,
they're going to overthrow the government. You could speak I mean,
I bet you did a bunch of deep dives on
how the government.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
The government overthrows in my day can neither confirm nor deny.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
So my point on it would be, look, we are
kicking Iran's ass because we have much better men and materiel,
and we are exposing the gap between what Iran Iran
claimed to be able to do and what they're actually
able to do. All that's very positive. The average poorly
(32:20):
armed Iranian military group dwarfs any kind of opposition armament
that could rise up against them. Right, And so this
idea that what you need to have happen, And you
tell me if I'm wrong or right on this based
on your actual expertise in this. You have to have
the military get behind someone new in order to have
(32:45):
any kind of successful attempt to overthrow the existing government. Right,
and unless the military is willing to line up behind
someone new, this idea that you're going to have oh
X number of people stored a facility, Like, as long
as the military is committed to the government in power,
there's almost no opportunity at all to ever have a
(33:07):
successful coup. Would that be a pretty succinct analysis of
where we are.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, this is why you generally see either a general
or maybe the head of the security service in a
coup situation, which is what we're really dealing with here.
We can use that word. I mean we are Essentially,
we are trying to midwife a coup into existence. We
are trying to bring about a coup in Iran. That
(33:33):
is what this air campaign ultimately is, and I think
we should be honest about that. But you've got about
a half a million, half a million Iranian men, six
hundred thousand Iranian men under arms, plus you've got tens
of thousands of besiege. Those are the Iranian or the
(33:54):
Islamic Revolutions brown shirts. They go around and they're they're
the street thug. So they've got tens of thousands of them.
So this is comp It's very complicated too, because the
answer Clay is yes, you do need. By the way,
this is why in Afghanistan. Yeah, we use the Northern
Alliance to kick out the Taliban, but then do you
know who we had to work with Pashtun warlords, province
(34:17):
by province, guys who had guys on the payroll with guns,
and some of them were very bad ombres. But that
was that was what we had and it didn't end
up working out for us in the long term. But
there really wasn't another option, uh, and that included a
major you know, eventually included a major US occupation force
(34:38):
and it still didn't work. So you want to work
within the existing power structure to the greatest degree possible
while lopping off the head of the power structure. It's
not a not an easy thing to uh to pull
off here. I I wonder, like I said Venezuela, I
think it's a pretty straightforward pathway. And I think I
(34:59):
think veneze Whala is on a trajectory of things just
getting better and better. I really do iran fifty to fifty.
This thing could go either way. I'm just being honest.
This thing could go either way. So we will continue
to monitor this.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
And in terms of the political ramifications, what I told
you yesterday is I think where this is going to go.
Democrats are not able to oppose the taking out of
Kameni because they recognize that he was a terrorist. In
America is safer without him gone. But what they're going
to do is they're going to say, hey, gas prices
(35:37):
are going up. The number one issue in the twenty
twenty six midterm is going to be the economy and
in particular affordability. And if they are able to argue
that Trump has gotten dragged into a cesspool a morass,
a quagmire in the Iranian marketplace. In that battle, then
(36:01):
it's going to cost all of us more money to
fill up our guest nanks, and that is going to
be a Democrat talking point in twenty twenty six. So
I think Trump wants this thing resolved. If I were betting,
I think Trump wants this thing resolved by May. So
that gives him about two months to really kind of
go to town here. And Iran knows that, and so
(36:21):
you've got a different calendar of sorts in the way
that Iran is thinking and the way that United States
is thinking. And then you toss in the wild card
of Israel and we will see. But I do think
you're right. Venezuela is on track to be an incredible
success story in our backyard. Effectively. We'll break down that
and more what's going on in the Senate in Texas.
(36:42):
That's next
Welcome everybody to the Thursday edition of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. Great to be here with all
of you across this great land of ours. We have
updates on the air campaign against Iran, the War from
the Sky, continuing on President Trump weighing in with his
assessment of how this is going so far. Concerns rising
(00:23):
as the Strait of Horror Moves has become a bit
of a ghost town, not a lot of shipping going
through there because of concerns about Iranian reprisals, oil prices
jumping a little bit, some are starting to hit the
Pannikin button. On that one. We will look at the
analysis and where things actually are and what is likely
(00:45):
to happen. More on that Texas Senate race. More on
James Tallarico, and I have to say some of the
chatter online is, guys, we have to hold some of
these clips until closer to the election because some of
them are truly astonishing, and the fact that Democrats believe
that this is a person who will win a Senate
(01:06):
seat in Texas. I wouldn't want this person in charge
of the mister softy stand on the corner. This guy
is a loon. This guy is crazy, but we'll get
into it. But he quotes the Bible. So if you
work for the New York Times, anybody who kind of
sounds like this and quotes the Bible has to be
a godly man and so he must know something. Even
(01:27):
though he thinks that Jesus all about trans all about
transing the youth, Big Jesus huge into transing the kids.
According to James Tallerico, we'll talk more about this, and
also I'm a little too excited about this actually, but
apparently it's not the first of its kind. But a rule,
(01:48):
a rule for the Skies has nothing to do with
our air warn iran, a rule for the Skies when
it comes to air travel, that is, I think in
defense of Western civilization. I think finally the savages are
on their back heels thanks to a United Airlines rule
(02:08):
that if you you know, you know, Clay. I don't
want to get into right now because we have more
important things. But this gets me very excited. And you
know what it has to do with headphone usage on planes.
The savages can no longer have their way with just
playing their iPads and their phones with no headphones. So
we all have to hear whatever garbage they're watching or listening.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
To it is.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
There's a bunch We're gonna have some fun and also
talk about serious things that are going on right now.
I love the James Tallarico story because this thing is
just an utter disaster. We're gonna go to Israel, by
the way, at the bottom of this hour with Yell
Extein and hear what it's like in Israel right now,
and then our buddy Ryan Gardusky's going to be on
with us to talk to some of this Tallarico and
(02:57):
decision making as it pertains to the Senate as the
primaries have started. But Buck, I think the biggest and
most important thing about Iran right now, if you look
at the overall trajectory of where we're headed, is what
is the exit strategy for Iran in the context of
(03:19):
to what extent are they going to reach a leader
that we are okay with? Because I would suggest I'm
curious if you would how you would analyze this Iran
strategy right now I think is going to be, Hey,
we'll just take as many bombs as necessary, and the
president is not going to stay committed to this long
(03:41):
range and all we've got to do is with stand
four or five weeks of significant bombing and then we'll
stick our heads up, see who is still around, and
we'll just elevate somebody. I think this is what the
government in power right now is thinking. The next diet
is not going to be a lot different than the past.
(04:02):
Dyea tola, and we will try to rebuild from the
destruction that is there. I think the question is to
what extent is the new leader signed off on by
America and what is the time frame? Because I think
the longer this goes on, the tougher it gets for Trump.
But the reality is when we're bombing from a distance,
(04:22):
I don't think it really impacts a lot of Americans
in a very significant way.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Well, this is what I mentioned war angle, the oil
price is situation. The oil prices spike is something that
certainly if this continues on and if it happens along
the lines what we saw with the Russia Ukraine War,
where I think it got up to one hundred and
twenty something dollars a barrel at one point because of
concerns over access to fossil fuels, to gas and natural
(04:54):
gas and oil. So that's something that they have to
take into consideration here the Straight of Horn moves he
is a strategic choke point. About twenty percent of the
world's global oil supply does go through that straight, and
there are currently hundreds of ships, tankers, et cetera idling,
not really sure where they're going and what they're going
(05:15):
to do because they're not going to be able to
enter or exit the straight under the current circumstance. That
has to change. Trump meanwhile saying this has cut fourteen.
Things are going great from the aerial warfront, even better
than he expected them to play fourteen.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
We're doing very well on the warfront.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
To put it mildly, I would say, somebody said, on
the scale of ten, where would you're ready?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I said, about a fifteen.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
The leadership is just rapidly going.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Everybody that.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Seems to want to be a leader, they end up dead.
And it's an amazing, amazing thing that's taking place. And
he's saying on a scale of ten, I would rate
it about fifteen. Seems to be very pleased with how
this is going so far that we are in a
position to essentially destroy all of the offensive capability. But
(06:10):
one of the big parts of this is tracking and
destroying what they call the missile cities. Wall Street Journal
had a big piece on this. These underground bunkers essentially
where they store a lot of missiles, and then they
have these mobile missile launchers. Those are like the first
things that US and Israeli planes are looking to pick off.
Not only are we picking them off at the moment they
(06:31):
move to try to fire, but also we're destroying those
bunkers in place, caving them in, and so all of
a sudden, thousands of missiles will no longer be accessible
to the Iranian regime. The military out gunning that we
are seeing right now is I think far beyond what
a lot of people would have expected. I think that's
(06:52):
completely right.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
And again, one of the things that is so interesting,
and you know this because you're a military history person
as well, is conflict accelerates technological advance, and initially wars
are fought on the technology of the past war. Everybody says, hey,
this would have beaten the past war, and then you
(07:14):
start to see an evolution rapidly. You've seen it with
Ukraine and Russia. I think there is an argument and
I'm not sure you know how long it's going to exist.
But I think there's an argument that boots on the
ground is not a requirement anymore like it would have
been in the past, because you can find and track
(07:35):
people through the tech, technological sophistication and evolution that we
have seen in a way that didn't exist in the past.
And let me hit you with this question, Buck, because
I was thinking about it this morning as I was
doing my prep. When we did the first Gulf War,
I think a lot of people thought, hey, we should
have continued on. This is the one in nineteen ninety ish,
(07:57):
and we could have taken out Saddam Hussein. We didn't,
and then we went back in in two thousand and
three and all of the disaster that ensued from there.
In today's technology, we would have just been able to
wipe out Saddam Hussein without ever having to have the
mass troops in the same way. And I wonder how
(08:18):
that would have changed nineteen ninety and two thousand and
three if we have been able to decapitate Saddam Hussein
like we did with the Aya Tola. And I do
think that President Trump, who just said to Axios Kahmane's
sun is a lightweight. This is their reports that the
(08:38):
Ayatola's forty some odd young son is going to be elevated.
I have to be involved in the appointment, President Trump
to Axios, I have to be involved in the appointment.
So the current kid that they're trying to elevate, I say, kid,
he's in his forties, according to Trump, is a lightweight.
And Trump says, I need to be involved in the
(09:01):
choice that they make as to who the next leader is.
So I think what you're seeing is the White House
sees this as a Venezuela like situation. Now the wild
card here is is it possible that there could be
people out there who are rising up inside of Iran.
(09:22):
You're skeptical on that that it's more difficult without us
being boots on a ground to actually have a regime change.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Well, I gotta tell you. And we have so many veterans,
g WAT veterans listening right now, many of whom serve
tours of combat in Iraq, many of whom served multiple tours,
spent years of their lives over there. And you start
talking about using the Kurds as the cleanup force for Iran,
(09:50):
which is being reported all over the place, and now
the White House has said no, no, we're not confirming that.
We're not denying it. They're not confirming it. But everybody
who remembers the days in Iraq knows that the Kurds,
they have a utility. They they are good allies for
what they are in the areas that are Kurdish. But
(10:11):
the moment that you start telling people who are non
Kurdish that the Kurdish overlord, so to speak, have arrived,
you get big problems. There's big problems in Iraq and
it could cause I think, big problems in Iran. And
I think that's why the administer, the administration knows. I
don't think they're going to do that. I think they'll
want the Kurds to just do what they did in Iraq,
(10:32):
stabilize the more Kurdish portions of Iran. And the point
here is Clay, we got to find somebody else that
has some kind of federalist unifying capability here to get them.
First of all, you have to get out of You
have to ouse the people who still have control of
the guys with the guns, which has not happened yet.
(10:52):
We've taken out the major military equipment, but until people
aren't afraid that men with masks and ak forty sevens
will come in the middle night and execute them in
front of their families for speaking out. This thing is
a long way from over. We have to get through
that phase, which means we need somebody with ground ground
strength of some level, and then we have to have
(11:14):
somebody who will oversee a transition to elections and a Basically,
I think what they want is a constitutional monarchy. Rather,
I think that would be the best situation. You bring
back the Shaw, you have a constitution, you have elections.
The Shaw is kind of a figurehead for a period
of time. Maybe that's the way, but this is the
big missing piece here. I mean, I feel much better
(11:35):
about what's going to happen in Venezuela, or I should
say higher confidence level about what's going to happen in
Venezuela over the next three years than I're on right now.
It's just an unknown.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I think all that is is well said. Here's one
thing that I would I would say, I think the
way we could get out as we declare victory, we
allow someone that we don't think is actually anywhere near
as bad as the Ayatola to come to power. And
here's the stick. The cart is Okay, you're the new
(12:06):
ruler of Iran. Here's the stick.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Buck.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
We have demonstrated that we can kill any leader of
Iran basically whenever the president of the United States or
Israel decides to do so. And I would think that
if you get a new ruler, that the president is
in some way in favor of that in the back
of their mind. Knowing wait a minute, that could be
(12:29):
me too, makes it far more likely that they are
going to follow the direction of the president. And I
think two of large extent Marco Rubio and look, that's
the deal that Delse Rodriguez has right now. In Venezuela.
They if you read what happened there, they said, hey,
we took Maduro. She was like, no way, and they
(12:50):
were like, here's a video of him. He's in our possession.
You either are going to work with us, or we're
going to take you out and prosecute you too. And
I have to believe that those are the kind of
conversations that are going to take place in Iran.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
In an ideal world, you would end up with a
constitutional monarchy, and you would have sane rulers, and you
would have a brand new regime that comes in and
Iran would become a flourishing marketplace of ideas in a
way that it was prior to the rise of the
Islamic Republic. That might be too optimistic. So having a
(13:26):
ruler that we know doesn't have the ability to get
nuclear weapons is a supreme success. As we said yesterday,
if we could go back in time and keep North
Korea from having nuclear weapons, the world would be much safer.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Here.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
We may well have done that for Iran. And what
I come back to is this is the antithesis of
what most politicians do. Most politicians just worry about the
time when they're in office, and then they leave big
messages for the next politician to have to try to
clean up. Trump is making, here, to his credit, a
generational decision that he will not personally necessarily benefit from
(14:03):
very much in the next two years and change that
he has to be president of the United States, and
that is actually incredibly commendable. Trump is trying to do
a lot of things right now that I think are
generational in nature that will not injure directly to his benefit.
In fact, if you look, as you mentioned at the
price of gas in the short term. It honestly has
(14:26):
a political cost that is more substantial for him than
the benefit that he will get out of it.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
We shall see. That's my biggest takeaway from all of this.
People that are saying it's great, people that are saying
it's terrible. No one knows yet. I have a lot
of faith in Trump and his team, but it is faith.
It is not a done deal. So let's see what
they're able to pull off here they have just like
with tariffs, I said, Trump has earned the right to
(14:55):
have us say, all right, sir, see this through. This
is why we elected you.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
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Speaker 3 (16:07):
Welcome back in play Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are
talking about the latest situation on Iran again the President
saying that he wants to be involved in picking the
next the leader of Iran. I don't think either of
us expect for there to be boots on the ground.
And again, I think the technology as such that the
new leader of Iran is going to know that he
(16:28):
could be killed at any moment. And when that is
the reality operating in the back of your head, maybe
you're more likely to be a partner of the United
States and Israel as well. But Steven Oklahoma, you think
Israel is going to put put boots on the ground.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I think we can discount the ferocity of the Israel
and what is the possibility that they go boots on
the ground.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
We bring in the apaches, the ward hog, We've already
got the b fifty twos there, so let's just do it.
I think Buck My take on that would be I
would severely if they asked, Israel putting boots on the
ground is a really bad idea to me, much worse
than us.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yes, yes, much.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
This is something maybe a surprise of some people. There
is a lot of anti Semitism in the Muslim world.
Just just let you know. The whole Israel thing not
great in a lot of parts, and the Israel in
a country that's getting bombed and showing up not not
gonna go over well. I'm just gonna tell you this
(17:35):
right now, as somebody who used to read the Gie
Hottest intercepts when they were calling me either a crusader
or Jew, that's what they used to call us in Iraq.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, it would not go over well. Clay, Yeah, I
don't think that's a good play. I think actually, the
US being involved in the selection of the next Iranian
leader is far better than Israel being involved, even though
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now from Israel. She is, of course the president of
the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Eiel, you are
over there, you are hearing what's going on and what's
on the minds of the Israeli people, and certainly have
a sense of tensions in the region. Tell us what
(19:17):
the latest is.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Well, what we're seeing is the war of good versus
evil come very very clear to fruition. I think what
we're seeing is spiritual warfare that everyone is tapping into,
and we're starting to see how the light always shines,
the good always wins, and we're seeing America and Israel
come together in order to stand for those values of freedom,
(19:42):
of security, of protection, and of course here in Israel,
all of our hearts are going out to the brave
servicemen and woman who were killed in this fight for freedom.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
What is the general goal in your mind? Yell, and
it's great to hear from you. Look forward to seeing
you person again. What do you think that general consensus
of the average Israeli citizen is now for what victory
looks like in Iran? We were just talking about that
off the top. What do Americans what does the Trump
(20:15):
administration continue to can consider to be victory, what is
considered victory in Israel? What's the goal now?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Well, October seventh changed everything for Israel and also, I
believe for Americans that were looking on. Up until October seventh,
there were many enemies who said death Israel, death to America.
Hamas right on Israel's border was gearing up for war,
and our position was always they could say whatever they want,
but as long as they're not acting, we're not going
to preemptively do anything to stap them. And after October seventh,
(20:48):
what the Americans and Israelis saw very clearly was when
there is a dangerous enemy country who's saying death to America,
death to Israel, when they're standing up on the parliament
floor and they're burning the American flag and the Israeli flag,
when they're saying, first we're going to go and kill
all the Saturday people, the Jews, and then we're going
(21:09):
to go for the Sunday people and kill all of them.
What we learned is that we have to take that seriously.
And so what that means is that we cannot let
these people who are not only oppressing their own nation
but holding the whole Western world hostage. We can't just
kick the ball down the road anymore. We need to
be brave for what we believe in. And I believe
(21:33):
that God blesses when we have the right intentions, when
it's to free the Western world to stand for the
sanctity of life. We see enormous blessings and miracles that
are taking place every single.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Dayspring the y Isle Exstein of the International Fellowship of
Christians and Jews. Now she is in Israel. Yeah, could
you speak to how things have changed with the Trump
administration obviously playing a large role this, but between the
relationship between the state of Israel and non Iranian Muslim
(22:09):
countries in the region, the Golf States and others, because
there seems to be well more sanity for sure coming
from that part of the world with respect to Israel.
I was wondering if you could speak to how that
is manifesting.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
We have seen miracles, Clay and viag and you are
here on the ground that you were able to witness
some of that. No one thought that the Abraham Accords
would happen, and then once they happened and took place,
an agreement between Israel and America and this Arab world.
So many countries that have historically always been enemies of
Israel suddenly to have an agreement. No one thought that
(22:49):
would happen. And then they said, okay, they signed an agreement,
but it's not going to hold. And now here we
are years later, where there is a strategic alliance and
partnership between these golf stays, between Muslims, between Jews, between Christians,
everyone standing together in this pursuit of freedom and the
sanctity of life. And it's something that President Trump saw
(23:12):
that he believed in, that he worked towards, and he realized,
just as we see in the scriptures Hachem osla moitinom strengths,
we have to show in order to bring peace, that
God blesses the nation with strength, and then God blesses
the nation with peace. And so what we're seeing today
with our neighbors is something historic. I Ran thought that
(23:34):
by bombing the UAE and Dubai and even some European countries,
that they would turn the whole world against Israel, but
really they're just taking off the mask to see how
dangerous Iran is and how much we need to come together.
Those of us who sanctify life and these Judeo Christian
values to make sure the future is brighter for our
children and grandchildren.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
One of this super positive potential outcomes here is Saudi
Arabia normalizing relations with Israel. Other countries have already started it.
The Abraham Accords have been a tremendous success, I think, y'all,
and you may disagree, but I think that was actually
the motivation for why the attack of October seventh happened,
(24:14):
because they were trying to derail the positive progress that
was being made there. How optimistic are you, Let's leave
aside the next few months, Let's talk about the next
few years. You've lived in Israel for a while. How
optimistic are you about the future for peace? Have there
been a time when you have been more optimistic in
the past? How would you assess the larger picture here
(24:37):
right now?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
What I know for a fact is that darkness hates light.
And so when you're talking about Saudi Arabia potentially joining
this Abraham Accord, that would be historic, that would change
the entire Middle East and would change the entire world.
Really through this alliance between Israel and Saudi Arabia, between
(24:59):
the Western world and Saudi Arabia. Yes, I think darkness
tried to do everything in order to destroy that. But
we know at the end of the day, from the
stories and the scriptures of Bilam and Balak, those who
tried to curse end up blessing. We know from the
story of perm that just took place, that wicked Hayman
tried to kill all the Jews, but in the end
he ended up being hung on the same gallows that
(25:21):
he prepared for the innocent people. This War of October
seventh began because many people like you, believe that they
wanted to stop the Abraham Accords from growing, they wanted
to stop normalization. But we're seeing as the same historic
biblical story that we've seen time and time again, they
went out to curse and they ended up blessing.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, your daughter is in the IDF right now. I
think a lot of Americans who have military members in
their families think about this battle in a different way
as a result, because they're directly connected to virtually everyone
in Israel with children has children in the IDF, grandchildren
(26:06):
in the IDF. I think a lot of Americans still
have not really understood that. So can you talk about
not only obviously you represent the IFCJ and you have
a lot of responsibility on that front, but you're also
a mom with a kid in the IDF, and so
are a lot of moms and dads and grandmas and grandpas.
How does that impact the way this battle and this
(26:30):
war hits in Israel and maybe a way that's different
than other places.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
It's a great question because for each one of us
it's so personal. My nineteen year old daughter right now
is on the border of Gaza, protecting this land, making
sure that no terrorists can come in. When I dropped
her off at the army base after she had a
few days off, and she went so proud, and I said,
are you Are you scared? And she said, Mummy, of
course I'm scared. But I believe what I'm doing is meaningful.
(26:58):
I believe what I'm doing is not only for protecting
the people of Israel, but protecting the values that I
hold dear that are very strong in America and Europe
and everywhere else. If I'm not standing here, the darkness
will spread. And so for each one of us is
personal in the sense of I think my prayers are
full of maybe more tears. I think the hope for
(27:19):
peace is not just a saying, but it's in my heart.
It's that my children are on the front lines. I
know my son in a year is going to be
joining the army, and so it's very personal. But that
personal association with this war, that personal prayer that comes
between every single news headline, every single siren, and every
(27:42):
single piece of information that's coming out of this war.
It's holding two maybe you could say conflicting emotions, but
really they're the same. On one hand, I want this
war to be over. I want this to end, and
on the other hand, I know that this is a
war that is needed to protect my children and my grandchildren,
(28:04):
that it can't end until we have fulfilled our objectives.
And while we're in the middle of fighting this war,
what we can do every one of us. My daughter's
on the front lines, but you know what, I'm going
bomb sheltered, bomb sheltered, delivering food Holocaust survivors. My daughter
is on the frontline, but I'm going to schools and
placing bomb shelters on behalf of the fellowship. What I
(28:25):
see is that everyone can do their part to bring
more light. We can't just sit back and complain. We
can't just curse the darkness. We can't just be consumed
by self righteous anger. We have to go out and help.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yell, I appreciate you coming on telling us what's going
on in Israel right now. Stay safe, keep your family
safe as well, and know that a lot of people
all over the United States are praying for you, guys,
and for everybody who is involved in fighting evil right now.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
We feel it. Thank you so much, God bless you.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
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Speaker 1 (30:46):
Welcome back in here at you play and Buck and Uh,
We're gonna be talking more about all of the Iran
news today. We'll also get into the James Tallerico situation
in Texas. UH, and we'll talk to our friend Ryan
Gerdusky about them. Where some of that is President Trump
reportedly going to endorse in the Texas primary, which is
an interesting change of pace. So we shall we shall
(31:12):
get into some of that. Podcast listener David in Texas
wants to weigh in on the Iran situation. Play h
David in Texas. I have a thought to allies USA,
Israel and anyone else that wants to play along knows
where the rallies are happening against the regime in Iran air.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Drop weapons to the people.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
We keep talking about how the biggest problem.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
For the people is that they're unarmed.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Well, get them armed and they can overthrow their own government.
I wish it was that easy.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yeah, Well here's the challenge. It's one thing to say, hey,
they're going to overthrow the government. You could speak I mean,
I bet you did a bunch of deep dives on
how the government.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
The government overthrows in my day can neither confirm nor deny.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
So my point on it would be, look, we are
kicking Iran's ass because we have much better men and materiel,
and we are exposing the gap between what Iran Iran
claimed to be able to do and what they're actually
able to do. All that's very positive. The average poorly
(32:20):
armed Iranian military group dwarfs any kind of opposition armament
that could rise up against them. Right, And so this
idea that what you need to have happen, And you
tell me if I'm wrong or right on this based
on your actual expertise in this. You have to have
the military get behind someone new in order to have
(32:45):
any kind of successful attempt to overthrow the existing government. Right,
and unless the military is willing to line up behind
someone new, this idea that you're going to have oh
X number of people stored a facility, Like, as long
as the military is committed to the government in power,
there's almost no opportunity at all to ever have a
(33:07):
successful coup. Would that be a pretty succinct analysis of
where we are.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, this is why you generally see either a general
or maybe the head of the security service in a
coup situation, which is what we're really dealing with here.
We can use that word. I mean we are Essentially,
we are trying to midwife a coup into existence. We
are trying to bring about a coup in Iran. That
(33:33):
is what this air campaign ultimately is, and I think
we should be honest about that. But you've got about
a half a million, half a million Iranian men, six
hundred thousand Iranian men under arms, plus you've got tens
of thousands of besiege. Those are the Iranian or the
(33:54):
Islamic Revolutions brown shirts. They go around and they're they're
the street thug. So they've got tens of thousands of them.
So this is comp It's very complicated too, because the
answer Clay is yes, you do need. By the way,
this is why in Afghanistan. Yeah, we use the Northern
Alliance to kick out the Taliban, but then do you
know who we had to work with Pashtun warlords, province
(34:17):
by province, guys who had guys on the payroll with guns,
and some of them were very bad ombres. But that
was that was what we had and it didn't end
up working out for us in the long term. But
there really wasn't another option, uh, and that included a
major you know, eventually included a major US occupation force
(34:38):
and it still didn't work. So you want to work
within the existing power structure to the greatest degree possible
while lopping off the head of the power structure. It's
not a not an easy thing to uh to pull
off here. I I wonder, like I said Venezuela, I
think it's a pretty straightforward pathway. And I think I
(34:59):
think veneze Whala is on a trajectory of things just
getting better and better. I really do iran fifty to fifty.
This thing could go either way. I'm just being honest.
This thing could go either way. So we will continue
to monitor this.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
And in terms of the political ramifications, what I told
you yesterday is I think where this is going to go.
Democrats are not able to oppose the taking out of
Kameni because they recognize that he was a terrorist. In
America is safer without him gone. But what they're going
to do is they're going to say, hey, gas prices
(35:37):
are going up. The number one issue in the twenty
twenty six midterm is going to be the economy and
in particular affordability. And if they are able to argue
that Trump has gotten dragged into a cesspool a morass,
a quagmire in the Iranian marketplace. In that battle, then
(36:01):
it's going to cost all of us more money to
fill up our guest nanks, and that is going to
be a Democrat talking point in twenty twenty six. So
I think Trump wants this thing resolved. If I were betting,
I think Trump wants this thing resolved by May. So
that gives him about two months to really kind of
go to town here. And Iran knows that, and so
(36:21):
you've got a different calendar of sorts in the way
that Iran is thinking and the way that United States
is thinking. And then you toss in the wild card
of Israel and we will see. But I do think
you're right. Venezuela is on track to be an incredible
success story in our backyard. Effectively. We'll break down that
and more what's going on in the Senate in Texas.
(36:42):
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