August 12, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show features Buck Sexton hosting solo while Clay Travis takes a family day, with the program focusing heavily on major 2026 election results, the future direction of the Democratic Party, key Wisconsin and Minnesota primaries, Trump-era immigration enforcement, and broader debates over socialism, progressivism, and law enforcement.
The hour opens with analysis of the closely watched Wisconsin Democratic gubernatorial primary, where progressive candidate Francesca Hong was defeated by establishment-backed candidate David Crowley. Buck examines the significance of the result, arguing that while many observers may see the outcome as a rejection of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and the party’s progressive wing, he believes it represents a tactical adjustment rather than a true ideological shift. The discussion centers on whether Democrats are moderating their message for electoral purposes while maintaining the same governing priorities once in office. Buck also highlights controversy surrounding Hong’s previous comments on Thanksgiving and race, along with reports that Fox News was denied access to her election-night event.
A major theme throughout Hour 1 is the ongoing debate over the ideological future of the Democratic Party. Buck argues that figures such as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) and other progressive leaders continue to shape the party’s long-term agenda despite occasional setbacks for far-left candidates in primary elections. He compares current Democratic strategies with the presidency of Joe Biden, arguing that moderate campaign messaging often masks more progressive governing priorities. The discussion touches on healthcare, immigration, border security, COVID-era policies, and the growing influence of democratic socialism within national politics.
The program then shifts to the Minnesota primary results, where Buck clarifies the outcomes of both the Senate and governor races. In the Democratic Senate primary, Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan secured the nomination and will face Republican Michelle Tafoya in the general election. Buck congratulates Tafoya, a former sports broadcaster and friend of the show, while assessing the political challenges Republicans face in increasingly blue Minnesota. The show also reviews the gubernatorial contest, where Minnesota House Speaker Lisa Demuth emerged as the Republican nominee after defeating Mike Lindell, the MyPillow founder. Buck discusses the electoral landscape in Minnesota and evaluates both races from a Republican perspective.
Another significant portion of Hour 1 focuses on immigration policy, ICE enforcement, and campaign messaging around border security. Buck reviews statements from Peggy Flanagan criticizing President Donald Trump and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), arguing that Democrats are attempting to mobilize voters through emotional appeals related to immigration enforcement. He discusses recent controversies involving ICE operations, the role of law enforcement in enforcing immigration laws, and broader national debates over border security. The conversation expands into a discussion about police authority, public compliance with law enforcement, and the necessity of enforcing immigration laws as part of maintaining national sovereignty.
The hour also includes commentary on the reliability of modern political polling. Buck notes that polling in the Wisconsin primary significantly underestimated Crowley’s performance and suggests that recent polling errors should make voters skeptical of current surveys in other key races. He specifically references concerns about polling in states such as Texas and argues that election outcomes remain far from predetermined heading into the general election season.
Additional topics include reflections on the concept of being a “happy warrior” in conservative politics, contrasts between conservative and progressive political culture, observations about Minnesota’s ongoing political evolution, and brief discussion of AOC’s growing influence within Democratic politics. The hour concludes with listener reaction from Minnesota and further analysis of the state’s shift toward more progressive politics.
Overall, Hour 1 delivers a wide-ranging discussion of 2026 midterm elections, Wisconsin primary results, Minnesota Senate and gubernatorial races, Democratic Party strategy, AOC and progressive politics, Donald Trump, ICE and immigration enforcement, border security, political polling accuracy, and the broader ideological battle shaping American politics heading into the next phase of the election cycle.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody, Wednesday edition of Clay and Buck, and we've
got a lot of political results for you, a lot
of news to.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Dive into today. Our man Clay is.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Taking a family day, I might add, he'll be back
with us tomorrow, just out for today, So you are
writing solo with me Buck aka the Buckster, or to
many of you now father of Speed.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
That's actually a cool name, Father of Speed. But it's
a truth thing too.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I don't know, maybe today we'll even have another appearance
of Speed on the skied Down. Maybe we'll see, we'll
see how nice everybody is. Wisconsin Democrat primary results are in.
The DSA is all upset. Minnesota Senate primary results are in,
and I think the GOP is overall very happy with all.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Of these results.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
We've also got some Trump reaction on the biggest stories,
including the plane swap story. New York Post, New York
Times leading with that yesterday. More on the WNBA. I'm
probably not to go heavy on the WNBA stuff today
because Clay will be back tomorrow and I know he's
going to want to talk about that in detail.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
But well, we'll update you on some of that, and.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Then of course all of your talk backs and calls
and all of that. But I'll start with this looking
at the results for the Wisconsin Democrat primary. Francesca Hong,
she of let's cancel Thanksgiving, fame or Thanksgiving is very
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problematic for a whole lot of people, which I've actually
never even heard before anyone say she walked that back,
but it wasn't walked back far enough. She lost. She
lost to a more shall you say, establishment candidate in
David Crowley. He narrowly won the Democrat nomination for governor
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in Wisconsin. And that is the first time we have
seen a highly publicized far left candidate lose to a
more establishment democrat in some of the recent cycles. This
is the end of the surge, or not the end
(02:16):
of it, but the first setback for the surge of
socialism among the Democrats. That's something that we'll talk about
in some detail. There's also this is kind of funny,
you know what, guys, Let's just play this. Apparently Fox
News was kicked out of Francesca Hok's election night party.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Play cut one here.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
For me, cowpany do this liveshot from inside the Han
campaign headquarters. Watch party. We arrived with our confirmation materials,
all the registration that we needed front of the line.
We were told because the capacity that they had the
discretion to turn some away at Peers. Fox News was
the only immediate outlet turned away. But we can report
from out here.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Not letting Fox News in that's not nice, not a surprise.
So there is that, and Francesco Hong is not a
name you're going to be hearing much more or much longer. Democrats,
I think are breathing a sigh of relief over this.
They are very pleased that they are not going to
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have to rally behind a candidate who I think everybody
who understands Wisconsin as a battleground state knew that Hong
was going to have a tough time. Her comments also
about things like the problematic proximity to whiteness. Wisconsin's a
very white state. If you want to be the governor
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of Wisconsin and you don't like whiteness, I would assume
it's something like trying to be the governor of Florida
and saying you hate beaches. That's probably a bad place
to be in a state with so much beautiful coastline,
so yeah, or it's saying you don't like football and Alabama,
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or take your pick. You don't like chowder and Massachusetts.
If you have a problem with proximity to white people,
Wisconsin might be a challenge. So she is gone from this.
This is just from her. Well, I guess certainly wasn't
a victory party. It was a concession speech party. Last night.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Francesca Hong cut to hit it.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
It is an honor of my lifetime to be your
candidate for governor Wisconsin.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
We have built something that will change politics forever. The
work we have done will be remembered forever.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I know we don't have the final results right now,
but what I do know is that we are ready
to keep fighting.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, you're not going to hear much more about her.
That was right before the results came in showing that
she had officially lost, But she I knew it was
pretty much all over. I'll say this on the one hand,
and I haven't even gotten into Minnesota yet. We will
dive into Minnesota Senate primary results soon. On the one hand,
(05:13):
you could say, and you could look at this and say,
and I think a lot of people will Sanity prevailed
among Democrats in Wisconsin that given the choices that they
have they made a less crazy choice, they made a
more electable choice. And I think all of that is true.
But something else is true as well. There is no
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such thing as too radical for the Democrat Party of today.
There's just too radical to get through the election cycle
with a win. That's a very important distinction. And I
want all of you to remember this because their efforts
to say create a woke one point oh and woke
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two point oh, this is all a facade. It is
a falsehood. It's not real. There's only one woke, and
it is what you have seen time and again. When
Democrats are in power, what do they do? What they
say when they're trying to get elected does not matter,
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or at least it doesn't matter in terms of what
they will do when they are in power. Those are
two separate and distinct things. Democrats get elected by pretending
that they are not as crazy as the other people
in their party, but when they are elected they do
the things that they pretended we're too crazy for them
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while they were trying to get people voting for them.
I could go through countless examples of this, but Joe
Biden with there's a lot to say there, but Joe
Biden is I think exhibit A. He was elected and
in retrospect, I know we all laugh about or maybe
(07:00):
not laugh, maybe you kind of cry about it. It's
preposterous this happened. But you had a guy who had
mental infirmity, who was elected presidents of the United States
by the Democrats, and he was elected as a uniter.
He was elected as a healer and a traditional old
school Democrat, somebody who would bring the country together, somebody
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who wouldn't be divisive. And as I'm saying that, I'm
sure your blood is beginning to boil because all of
that was a lie. That Biden presidency was the most
open borders presidency in the history of.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
This country.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Since since we've been enforcing borders, there was nothing as
open borders by the numbers as the Biden administration was.
So you had the most radical policy on the border
you possibly could, and go down the line, look at
some other areas, look at some other aspects of Biden policy.
You got memos of support from the White House. Now
(08:04):
you could say that Biden's aides were writing them, not him, sure,
but he was. You know, his name was on it.
The auto pen was signing it. So to speak of
support for transurgery for minors. In fact, what was the
area of policy that was too left wing for the
Democrats that was within Biden's reach that he did not
(08:26):
go for. I understand to say, oh, but what about
a total ambesty. Well that requires Congress.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
He couldn't get it through. What was the thing that
was too radical for Biden? On COVID he went as
hardcore as he possibly could. Vaccine mandates, extended, the school locked,
school closures and lockdowns and everything else. With Biden, you
got left wing AOC policy in the smiling, through the
(08:53):
smiling facade, the husk perhaps of a career Democrat politician
representing mostly the credit card companies based in Delaware. That's
what she got. It wasn't actually moderated at all. Now
why does that matter to us right now? Francesca Hong's
sin other than some just political malpractice. I mean, we're
(09:14):
joking about the Thanksgiving thing, but that is a it
is a preposterously stupid thing to say. We'll get into
some of what al Sayeed has said running for Senate
in Michigan against Mike Rogers. He has also said some
very stupid things, but he's walked it back since, and
they're trying to cover that. They're playing catch up and
cover up with all that. What they say is just
(09:37):
a game to them. Whether it's AOC or the squad,
or Bernie or Biden or any of them. What they
say is meant to fool. What they do is what
you have to be worried about. And I understand right
now there is an inclination to say this Democrat Party
(09:57):
is less socialist, or this Democrat Party is less woke
and radical because of things like the Hong defeat in Wisconsin.
But I think that is a far too simplistic view
of what is going on here. This is merely tactical
retreat as part of a much larger advance of socialism
(10:21):
within the Democrat Party. This is just what do we
have to do to get into a position of maximum power.
They did not want to hand a governor's mansion into
a Republican in a critical state like Wisconsin. So there's
a difference between tactics and ethics, right, or a difference
between a shift that is meant to fool at a
(10:44):
shift that is meant and heartfelt. Those are some of
the dynamics that I see at play here.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And this is why.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
While we point out things like the DSA, the Democrats
are always going to claim that this is just a
voice within the party, not the real ethos of the party.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
That is a lie.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Look at Abigail Spanberger for example of Virginia. She is
somebody who ran as a Democrat milk toast, moderate mom,
and it turns out as soon as she gets into
office she's trying to be as aggressive as possible on
as many left wing issue issues as she can. And
(11:28):
the whole game is to do what they want while
they're in power, and then when they're up for reelection,
lie about what they did, lie about what they plan
to do going forward, and hope that enough people are
fooled or forget. So while you still have something here
to look at with Hong as a loss for the
(11:49):
far left of the progressives of the Democrat Party, that
is the vanguard of the party, do not be fooled.
And we will be talking about this more this week,
I promise you. Oh aoc who is apparently newly single,
that's real. She just froze her eggs very public about
that we're not sharing any private medical information. She posted
(12:11):
it on social media for the world to see. She
froze her eggs and she broke up with her boyfriend,
who is a very red haired fellow. I am married
to a redhead, so I don't understand all these redhead
jokes that I'm seeing out there.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I think red hair is beautiful, but my son has
red hair.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
AOC is the future of the Democrat Party, whether she's
the candidate or just the kingmaker behind the scenes. It
is a socialist party. It is Medicare for all, as
they call it. It's just single payer, is really what
it is. It's the national healthcare system of the UK,
which has destroyed the economy of that country and is
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enormously inefficient and provides crappy care. It's a whole range
of issues like that. That's where they're going. So what
you see here is not a rejection for the DSA
in Wisconsin. It is a speed bump for the overall agenda.
Do not be fooled, my friends. We have a lot
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Speaker 2 (14:09):
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Speaker 1 (14:15):
Welcome back here to Clay and Buck. I want to
do I want to take some time here to give
you some good news as well.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I love good news. I love good news.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
We share as much of it here with you as possible,
you notice today, because I do not have the counterbalance
of Clay's perpetual optimism. E or is going to have
a fun one and actually lighten things up a bit
for you, not just with the funny stuff, but also
on the political front, because we are happy warriors. One
thing that always separates the right and left in politics
(14:45):
in America today, as I observe it so many people
who are on our team, it's really important to us.
We're passionate about it, but we're also joyful. We're joyful
even in the fight, whereas I think it is a
character ristic of the left to be bitter and angry
and resentful in victory as well as in defeat. So
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all the time, just not the way to go through life.
I even told you Bill mar pulled me aside when
she just said after the first time I was on
the show, he said, you stick with what you say
all the time, and you're a happy warrior. And I
respect that. Now you can like or not like Bill
Maher's content, but I did appreciate the compliment at the time,
(15:29):
and he said that others. He said, you guys on
the right, a lot of you are happy Warriors, which
is so true. So here's what I would say is
something that is cheering me up a bit. One thing
from the Wisconsin election results. We'll talk to Minnesota here
in a second. By the way, I congrats to Michelle
Tafoya we've had on the program, who just won the
Republican primary against Mike Lindell of my Pillow fame. The
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Wisconsin primary election results were contrary to the polling. Contrary
to the polling, or rather big miss by the polling.
They had Francesca Hong up double digits. David Crowley, by
the way, beat her by an extremely narrow margin, but
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still she was supposed to be up double digits. And
we've seen this sort of thing before. I remember the
Iowa pollster who had Trump what was it like, ten
points behind Kamala and Iowa something just completely insane, and
she was supposed to be the best. She's retired from
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the game. This might have been why the best polster
in Iowa and was off by double digits.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
These Wisconsin results were.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Very different from what we were told was going to
happen here. I was prepared to talk to you about
Francesca Hang's victory today. I mean just based on all
the numbers. I didn't think that the Democrats were going
to intentionally skew the poll in favor of one canon
over the other in this case. So I think it
was just an error. But a lot of the polling
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right now that shows things that I don't like. This
where this is the good news part of this, everybody,
This is the part that should stiffen our spines and
are resolve and get us fired up and get us
out there and voting, not just in the primary but
also in the general election this fall. I do not
believe James Tallerico is actually going to be able to
(17:29):
win in Texas. I don't care what the polls say.
I do not believe it. I do not think we're
going to lose a Senate seat there. I do not
think that the other polls that are a bit of
a shock right now to people are going to end
up being accurate either. And the future is not set.
So we have a lot of work to do, and
(17:51):
I'll take your calls as we'll talk to Minnesota results
here in a second. Other results to dive into as well.
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Clay and Buck. By the way, exciting, we'd got Ann
Colter joining us in the third hour and Florida Lieutenant
Governor J Collins, which were talking about Florida being at
a crime all time low or sorry, fifty year all
time low or fifty year low.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
And also talk to him.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
He's running for governor and there is a primary going
on here in Florida, and I just I got to
go out and vote in that primary. So we'll have
on lieutenant governor Lieutenant Governor Collins as well. Also, please
stop stop being mad at me.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I did. I made a boo boo.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I made an error in talking about the Minnesota election results.
I think I got the the governor primary and the
Senate primary.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I might have said the wrong thing.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I can't remember now, but I'm going to tell you
what's going on here, Okay, So if I said the
wrong thing about the Minnesota primary, I'm updating it now
with the right thing about the results you had. The
Democrat US Senate primary was an open Senate seat after
Senator Tina Smith retired. So Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan, who
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is a progressive leftist, defeated Representative Angie Craig by a
pretty big margin. Flanagan will face Republican Michelle Tafoya in
the general election.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So that was for the Senate seat.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Now on the governor's race, you had Minnesota House Speaker
Lisa Demouth defeated My Pillow founder Mike Lindell, who was
Trump endorsed, among others.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
She defeated by the way.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
She beat Lindell by eleven points forty three thirty two percent.
And then in the Democrat governor prime Democratic governor primary,
Senator Amy Klobashar won easily and will face Dumouth in November. Okay,
so I want to line all these things up. I
(20:58):
will say I think that for the state of Minnesota,
Minnesota House Speaker Timuth is a more likely challenge than
I think Mike Lindell would have been. Mike was Trump endorsed,
but remember Minnesota's gone blue in recent elections, and it's
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a pretty It's become a pretty blue state. So I
don't think that Mike would have had a realistic shot
at all. Look, I think that Minnesota is going to
be tough for Republicans period in this mid drum election cycle.
I think Michelle Tafoya is a great candidate on the
Senate side of things, but she's up against a very
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entrenched and savvy political operator with Flannagan here, who that's
also going to be a big ask.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
That's not going to be a I wouldn't place a
big bet on that.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
One, is what I'm telling you. I think that things
are going to be a little bit more of a
challenge there. So that's that's the Minnesota the Minnesota result
or those are the results. And here is the now
Senate candidate, Peggy Flanagan, lieutenant governor, now Senate candidate, talking
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about she's going to make this as much about Trump
as possible.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Plate Cut eight.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Donald Trump has cost our state far too much already,
and we are not about to give Donald Trump another
loyal soldier like Michelle Tafoya to take his orders.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And do his bidding.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Michelle Tafoya was all in with Trump when Ice was
terrorizing our neighbors. The last thing this country needs is
to give Donald Trump another Yes, Sir, Senator, Trump cut
fifteen million people off of their healthcare, and Michelle Tafoya said, yes, sir,
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tax breaks for billionaires, Yes, sir, you bet you.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Okay, Notice how the whole thing here for her is
to try to make this as much as possible about
Trump because she thinks that's going to be in her interest.
The other part of this is making it about Ice,
which is fascinating to me because I understand that Minneapolis
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was the scene of some fatal exchange with an ICE
officer and some maniac, and then this became a big,
a big uh you know, brew haha nationally, a big
to do, and this is something that Democrats think is
going to mobilize their base. They are looking for an
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issue where they have the moral high ground to get
people for whom the vote is really just a proxy
for a virtue signal. Right, I'm going to vote for
this Democrat in Minnesota because that's what the good people do,
who are nice to everybody and all this other stuff.
But it's fascinating to me that in a generally very
white state like Minnesota, you see Democrats trying to make
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this about immigration enforcement as much as possible. I understand
they're illegals who make their way up to Minnesota. But
you know it's not a border state. Well I'm sorry,
not a southern border state.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Of course it is.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I don't think they're as worried about masses of Canadians
who are coming in to infiltrate and take welfare and
all the rest of it. I know there's some infiltration
from Canada that occurs, but of illegals, but it's far
different numbers. And obviously Trump has secured the borders very well.
So this isn't really about immigration policy in Minnesota. It's
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creating a narrative that will make people who are easily
let's say, their minds are easily molded, make them feel
like they're good people because they're voting against Trump and
against the mean ice raids. You know, law enforcement at
some level has to be willing to do things that
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are rough, because it's the state exercising a monopoly on
the use of force lawfully, without which how do you
have the enforcement of any laws.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
You see this with.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
People who play the game, and you know, with the
body cams, I will say, not only have bodycams been
the single biggest impediment to the Black Lives Matter movement,
and I think they've made the argument better than any person,
better than I ever could or anyone else ever could,
about why BLM is essentially rooted in just lies and
misdirection and nonsense, very poisonous, very dangerous nonsense, I might add.
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But you see people in these law enforcement of all situations,
whether even for like a speeding ticket, and they'll play
the game of I'm not going to show you my ID,
and then they'll say they'll try to stall install, and
at some point the cop says, you can see endless
clips like this online. I'm giving you a lawful order.
(26:11):
You're going to comply, You're going to be arrested. And
now that all is still just verbal exchange. At some
point beyond that, the cops have to physically apprehend the
individual and physically bring them for arrest and processing, and
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then they'll get their day in court, they'll see a judge,
and you know they'll be released, especially for something like
a traffic involved situation. But people have to be willing.
Law enforcement officers have to be willing and capable and
supported in putting their hands on somebody and saying you're
coming with me, and then escalating as needed if that
person refuses. Otherwise there's no loss. Otherwise it's I'm just
(26:55):
not good at you guys. Remember I love the movie Tombstone.
I've probably seen it fifty times. One of Val Kilmer's
best roles. I think my brother and I argue whether
he's better in Tombstone or better in Heat. But Valcolmer
was phenomenal in Tombstone. And there's a scene where it's
actually Kurt Russell playing Wyat and there's some guy I
(27:17):
think his name is Sheriff be Han or Meehan or
b I think it's be Han in the movie, and
he's a kind of a dandy fellow who's the on paper,
the sheriff, but he's really just a tool of the
cowboys who've overrun the town. And and he just says
Kurt Russell just kind of looks at him, and at
one point says, I don't think I'm gonna I don't
think i'm gonna let you arrest me today.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And that's really really just puts the guy in his place.
You can't have that.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
You can't have people that just say, sorry, you're the cop,
but I can't arrest you. Now, this applies to Ice too.
That's why I'm talking about it. Ice is enforcing laws.
If people are going to run, resist, do all these things,
that that means that either ice officers are going to
physically wrestle them to the ground and put handcuffs on them,
and if they try to ram them with their car,
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use lethal force to defend themselves as necessary, or else
we don't have immigration laws. You see, we keep going
back through the same game, the same stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Right, Oh, why do you have to do that? Why
why this looks.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Ugly when the cops are wrestling somebody to the ground
who is resisting arrest or you know it's going to
look ugly.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
It's force.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And we would like to live in a society of
angels where none of this is needed and there's no cops,
and then you could abolish police. We do not, and
people who are unwilling to comply with verbal commands are
going to have hands put on them.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
By law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
The only alternative to that is we don't actually have
the enforcement of laws, and that anybody can just decide. Sorry,
b hand, I don't feel like being arrested today. And
this is why the stuff about ice and the ice involved.
Keep in mind, ice is deported. Gosh, I got to
check on the latest numbers hundreds of thousands of people
this year. Over two million self deportations happened the first
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year at Trump, but there are hundreds of thousands of
people who have been deported, tens of thousands of arrests
going on in recent months. I got to look at
the latest numbers, and truth is, there's going to be
sometimes ugly situations involving those who try to ram cops
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or try to do things like that. It is unfortunate,
but it is reality. People like Democrat Minnesota Senate candidate
Peggy Flanagan are emotionally weaponizing this as propaganda for the
purposes of being put into office so that we can
have a Democrat well, a Democrat controlled Senate, and in
their minds, hopefully a Democrat controlled White House, which will
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then kick the borders wide open once again. That is
the whole game here, she is saying this, this is
cut nine play it.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Let's talk about Donald Trump's out of control Ice force.
We need to rip Ice apart and stop them from
terrorizing our communities. And I know this. I know that
we can fix our broken immigration system, secure the border,
and create a real pathway to citizenship that aligns with
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our values, and we are going to stop Donald Trump's
billion dollar a day a legal war in Iran and
the crushing gas and fertilizer prices. We are going to
fight the corruption, whether it's in the White House or
in the halls of Congress, because the grift has to stop.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
So a few things on you're noticing, these are the
lines of attack that a lot of Democrats are going
to be using. The Ice issue because of the Ice
involved shooting in Minnesota from some months back, that's become
very very emotional for Democrats, and the street communists are
are shouting this all the time. We need to rip
Ice part and stop them from terrorizing our communities. She says,
(31:03):
I live in Miami. There's no Ice. Isn't terrorizing anybody here.
How is Ice terrorizing communities by enforcing the law in communities?
Do those laws not count? Should we just ignore it?
Speaker 7 (31:17):
All?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I know Democrats would actually say yes, they want us
to ignore all those laws. But that undermines our entire system,
It undermines our sovereignty as a nation. It's just fundamentally wrong.
But they are an open Border's party pathway to citizenship.
Ask ask yourself this question, if Democrats one in twenty
eight and they were able to just as a.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Game this out a little bit.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
If they were able to pass a mass amnesty for
the I don't know, twenty five thirty million illegals that
are in the country right now, if they're able to
do that mass amnesty for all of them, on what
basis would they tell anybody arriving after that, well, you're
not allowed to st What principle will they be able
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to reassert after that mass amnesty? Would they even want
to reassert it? Of course not, because they view the
importation of overwhelmingly people from non white majority countries and
Third World impoverished countries as part of the socialist project
of America which is essentially a form of colonial colonialism
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reparations America. Their ideology as America got rich by exploiting
every other country that's poor. It's nonsense, but this is
what they believe. They believe that America is a white
supremacist country because of the legacy and a history of
slavery and a whole bunch of other stuff that they
will throw into the mix there. And they think that
that has to also there has to be a penance
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for that, and so that penance is to bring as
many people into the country who don't share our values,
who don't speak our language. It's the dissolution of America.
That's actually the plan here. It becomes some other country.
They can maybe think that that country is going to
be so great and so much better. I don't know
on what basis they'd make that case, but it's not
going to be the same country if they have their way,
that is for sure. This is what we're heading towards.
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This is what we're fighting against. And i'd also those
reminder the Ice issue, we can come back to this
we needed well, you know what, I'll leave it for now.
I won't re litigate some of the choices involving Ice
leadership in this moment for the administration, but I'm just
saying this is now a major challenge for all Republicans
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Welcome back in here to Clay and Bucks. So it's
Lisa Daymouth. I am told you know, Daymouth. That's a
tough one. Got to keep up on all these surnames,
which can be variable in the pronunciations. But Minnesota House
Speaker Lisa Daymouth defeated My pillow founder Mike Lindell, and
(35:20):
so she is now running for that governor's seat or
governor's position against Amy Klobashar, she of I believe used.
Was it a Klobashar who when she ran for president
they said she ate salad with a comb and threw
an eraser at somebody? Or am I confusing her with
somebody else? I think that I think those were the
(35:42):
I just remember eating salad with a cot. Now what
I really wanted to know about this is was it
a used comb or was it just like one straight
out of the plastic.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I think that makes a difference. Uh, Tommy and Minneapolis
lived in Minnesota's whole life. He wants to talk to us.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
What's up, Tommy, Tommy, all you guys doing today, We're good, man,
but please, you got forty seconds, go for it.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
You know, I've lived here my whole life, and I
think we've succeeded from the United States. And I'll tell
you when they did that, they dumped our flag, our
States flag, and they put in a plombic flag up
and if you look at it, you don't even look
like we're living in the United States anymore. You, I mean,
all that they do up here is so bad. You
have no say in anything. Nobody wanted this flag and
(36:31):
if you check it out, it's it's not anything to
do with the United States. Nothing.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah, somehow, many, I mean somehow Minnesota, rather in Minneapolis
has gotten a whole lot more progressive, a whole lot
more left wing since I was a kid too. So
we'll talk about more on this, the surge of the
left and AOC is single coming up.
Welcome everybody, Wednesday edition of Clay and Buck, and we've
got a lot of political results for you, a lot
of news to.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Dive into today. Our man Clay is.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Taking a family day, I might add, he'll be back
with us tomorrow, just out for today, So you are
writing solo with me Buck aka the Buckster, or to
many of you now father of Speed.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
That's actually a cool name, Father of Speed. But it's
a truth thing too.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I don't know, maybe today we'll even have another appearance
of Speed on the skied Down. Maybe we'll see, we'll
see how nice everybody is. Wisconsin Democrat primary results are in.
The DSA is all upset. Minnesota Senate primary results are in,
and I think the GOP is overall very happy with all.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Of these results.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
We've also got some Trump reaction on the biggest stories,
including the plane swap story. New York Post, New York
Times leading with that yesterday. More on the WNBA. I'm
probably not to go heavy on the WNBA stuff today
because Clay will be back tomorrow and I know he's
going to want to talk about that in detail.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
But well, we'll update you on some of that, and.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Then of course all of your talk backs and calls
and all of that. But I'll start with this looking
at the results for the Wisconsin Democrat primary. Francesca Hong,
she of let's cancel Thanksgiving, fame or Thanksgiving is very
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problematic for a whole lot of people, which I've actually
never even heard before anyone say she walked that back,
but it wasn't walked back far enough. She lost. She
lost to a more shall you say, establishment candidate in
David Crowley. He narrowly won the Democrat nomination for governor
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in Wisconsin. And that is the first time we have
seen a highly publicized far left candidate lose to a
more establishment democrat in some of the recent cycles. This
is the end of the surge, or not the end
(02:16):
of it, but the first setback for the surge of
socialism among the Democrats. That's something that we'll talk about
in some detail. There's also this is kind of funny,
you know what, guys, Let's just play this. Apparently Fox
News was kicked out of Francesca Hok's election night party.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Play cut one here.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
For me, cowpany do this liveshot from inside the Han
campaign headquarters. Watch party. We arrived with our confirmation materials,
all the registration that we needed front of the line.
We were told because the capacity that they had the
discretion to turn some away at Peers. Fox News was
the only immediate outlet turned away. But we can report
from out here.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Not letting Fox News in that's not nice, not a surprise.
So there is that, and Francesco Hong is not a
name you're going to be hearing much more or much longer. Democrats,
I think are breathing a sigh of relief over this.
They are very pleased that they are not going to
(03:16):
have to rally behind a candidate who I think everybody
who understands Wisconsin as a battleground state knew that Hong
was going to have a tough time. Her comments also
about things like the problematic proximity to whiteness. Wisconsin's a
very white state. If you want to be the governor
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of Wisconsin and you don't like whiteness, I would assume
it's something like trying to be the governor of Florida
and saying you hate beaches. That's probably a bad place
to be in a state with so much beautiful coastline,
so yeah, or it's saying you don't like football and Alabama,
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or take your pick. You don't like chowder and Massachusetts.
If you have a problem with proximity to white people,
Wisconsin might be a challenge. So she is gone from this.
This is just from her. Well, I guess certainly wasn't
a victory party. It was a concession speech party. Last night.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Francesca Hong cut to hit it.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
It is an honor of my lifetime to be your
candidate for governor Wisconsin.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
We have built something that will change politics forever. The
work we have done will be remembered forever.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I know we don't have the final results right now,
but what I do know is that we are ready
to keep fighting.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, you're not going to hear much more about her.
That was right before the results came in showing that
she had officially lost, But she I knew it was
pretty much all over. I'll say this on the one hand,
and I haven't even gotten into Minnesota yet. We will
dive into Minnesota Senate primary results soon. On the one hand,
(05:13):
you could say, and you could look at this and say,
and I think a lot of people will Sanity prevailed
among Democrats in Wisconsin that given the choices that they
have they made a less crazy choice, they made a
more electable choice. And I think all of that is true.
But something else is true as well. There is no
(05:34):
such thing as too radical for the Democrat Party of today.
There's just too radical to get through the election cycle
with a win. That's a very important distinction. And I
want all of you to remember this because their efforts
to say create a woke one point oh and woke
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two point oh, this is all a facade. It is
a falsehood. It's not real. There's only one woke, and
it is what you have seen time and again. When
Democrats are in power, what do they do? What they
say when they're trying to get elected does not matter,
(06:18):
or at least it doesn't matter in terms of what
they will do when they are in power. Those are
two separate and distinct things. Democrats get elected by pretending
that they are not as crazy as the other people
in their party, but when they are elected they do
the things that they pretended we're too crazy for them
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while they were trying to get people voting for them.
I could go through countless examples of this, but Joe
Biden with there's a lot to say there, but Joe
Biden is I think exhibit A. He was elected and
in retrospect, I know we all laugh about or maybe
(07:00):
not laugh, maybe you kind of cry about it. It's
preposterous this happened. But you had a guy who had
mental infirmity, who was elected presidents of the United States
by the Democrats, and he was elected as a uniter.
He was elected as a healer and a traditional old
school Democrat, somebody who would bring the country together, somebody
(07:25):
who wouldn't be divisive. And as I'm saying that, I'm
sure your blood is beginning to boil because all of
that was a lie. That Biden presidency was the most
open borders presidency in the history of.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
This country.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Since since we've been enforcing borders, there was nothing as
open borders by the numbers as the Biden administration was.
So you had the most radical policy on the border
you possibly could, and go down the line, look at
some other areas, look at some other aspects of Biden policy.
You got memos of support from the White House. Now
(08:04):
you could say that Biden's aides were writing them, not him, sure,
but he was. You know, his name was on it.
The auto pen was signing it. So to speak of
support for transurgery for minors. In fact, what was the
area of policy that was too left wing for the
Democrats that was within Biden's reach that he did not
(08:26):
go for. I understand to say, oh, but what about
a total ambesty. Well that requires Congress.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
He couldn't get it through. What was the thing that
was too radical for Biden? On COVID he went as
hardcore as he possibly could. Vaccine mandates, extended, the school locked,
school closures and lockdowns and everything else. With Biden, you
got left wing AOC policy in the smiling, through the
(08:53):
smiling facade, the husk perhaps of a career Democrat politician
representing mostly the credit card companies based in Delaware. That's
what she got. It wasn't actually moderated at all. Now
why does that matter to us right now? Francesca Hong's
sin other than some just political malpractice. I mean, we're
(09:14):
joking about the Thanksgiving thing, but that is a it
is a preposterously stupid thing to say. We'll get into
some of what al Sayeed has said running for Senate
in Michigan against Mike Rogers. He has also said some
very stupid things, but he's walked it back since, and
they're trying to cover that. They're playing catch up and
cover up with all that. What they say is just
(09:37):
a game to them. Whether it's AOC or the squad,
or Bernie or Biden or any of them. What they
say is meant to fool. What they do is what
you have to be worried about. And I understand right
now there is an inclination to say this Democrat Party
(09:57):
is less socialist, or this Democrat Party is less woke
and radical because of things like the Hong defeat in Wisconsin.
But I think that is a far too simplistic view
of what is going on here. This is merely tactical
retreat as part of a much larger advance of socialism
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within the Democrat Party. This is just what do we
have to do to get into a position of maximum power.
They did not want to hand a governor's mansion into
a Republican in a critical state like Wisconsin. So there's
a difference between tactics and ethics, right, or a difference
between a shift that is meant to fool at a
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shift that is meant and heartfelt. Those are some of
the dynamics that I see at play here.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And this is why.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
While we point out things like the DSA, the Democrats
are always going to claim that this is just a
voice within the party, not the real ethos of the party.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
That is a lie.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Look at Abigail Spanberger for example of Virginia. She is
somebody who ran as a Democrat milk toast, moderate mom,
and it turns out as soon as she gets into
office she's trying to be as aggressive as possible on
as many left wing issue issues as she can. And
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the whole game is to do what they want while
they're in power, and then when they're up for reelection,
lie about what they did, lie about what they plan
to do going forward, and hope that enough people are
fooled or forget. So while you still have something here
to look at with Hong as a loss for the
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far left of the progressives of the Democrat Party, that
is the vanguard of the party, do not be fooled.
And we will be talking about this more this week,
I promise you. Oh aoc who is apparently newly single,
that's real. She just froze her eggs very public about
that we're not sharing any private medical information. She posted
(12:11):
it on social media for the world to see. She
froze her eggs and she broke up with her boyfriend,
who is a very red haired fellow. I am married
to a redhead, so I don't understand all these redhead
jokes that I'm seeing out there.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I think red hair is beautiful, but my son has
red hair.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
AOC is the future of the Democrat Party, whether she's
the candidate or just the kingmaker behind the scenes. It
is a socialist party. It is Medicare for all, as
they call it. It's just single payer, is really what
it is. It's the national healthcare system of the UK,
which has destroyed the economy of that country and is
(12:53):
enormously inefficient and provides crappy care. It's a whole range
of issues like that. That's where they're going. So what
you see here is not a rejection for the DSA
in Wisconsin. It is a speed bump for the overall agenda.
Do not be fooled, my friends. We have a lot
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Speaker 1 (14:15):
Welcome back here to Clay and Buck. I want to
do I want to take some time here to give
you some good news as well.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I love good news. I love good news.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
We share as much of it here with you as possible,
you notice today, because I do not have the counterbalance
of Clay's perpetual optimism. E or is going to have
a fun one and actually lighten things up a bit
for you, not just with the funny stuff, but also
on the political front, because we are happy warriors. One
thing that always separates the right and left in politics
(14:45):
in America today, as I observe it so many people
who are on our team, it's really important to us.
We're passionate about it, but we're also joyful. We're joyful
even in the fight, whereas I think it is a
character ristic of the left to be bitter and angry
and resentful in victory as well as in defeat. So
(15:08):
all the time, just not the way to go through life.
I even told you Bill mar pulled me aside when
she just said after the first time I was on
the show, he said, you stick with what you say
all the time, and you're a happy warrior. And I
respect that. Now you can like or not like Bill
Maher's content, but I did appreciate the compliment at the time,
(15:29):
and he said that others. He said, you guys on
the right, a lot of you are happy Warriors, which
is so true. So here's what I would say is
something that is cheering me up a bit. One thing
from the Wisconsin election results. We'll talk to Minnesota here
in a second. By the way, I congrats to Michelle
Tafoya we've had on the program, who just won the
Republican primary against Mike Lindell of my Pillow fame. The
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Wisconsin primary election results were contrary to the polling. Contrary
to the polling, or rather big miss by the polling.
They had Francesca Hong up double digits. David Crowley, by
the way, beat her by an extremely narrow margin, but
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still she was supposed to be up double digits. And
we've seen this sort of thing before. I remember the
Iowa pollster who had Trump what was it like, ten
points behind Kamala and Iowa something just completely insane, and
she was supposed to be the best. She's retired from
(16:36):
the game. This might have been why the best polster
in Iowa and was off by double digits.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
These Wisconsin results were.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Very different from what we were told was going to
happen here. I was prepared to talk to you about
Francesca Hang's victory today. I mean just based on all
the numbers. I didn't think that the Democrats were going
to intentionally skew the poll in favor of one canon
over the other in this case. So I think it
was just an error. But a lot of the polling
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right now that shows things that I don't like. This
where this is the good news part of this, everybody,
This is the part that should stiffen our spines and
are resolve and get us fired up and get us
out there and voting, not just in the primary but
also in the general election this fall. I do not
believe James Tallerico is actually going to be able to
(17:29):
win in Texas. I don't care what the polls say.
I do not believe it. I do not think we're
going to lose a Senate seat there. I do not
think that the other polls that are a bit of
a shock right now to people are going to end
up being accurate either. And the future is not set.
So we have a lot of work to do, and
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I'll take your calls as we'll talk to Minnesota results
here in a second. Other results to dive into as well.
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Governor J Collins, which were talking about Florida being at
a crime all time low or sorry, fifty year all
time low or fifty year low.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
And also talk to him.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
He's running for governor and there is a primary going
on here in Florida, and I just I got to
go out and vote in that primary. So we'll have
on lieutenant governor Lieutenant Governor Collins as well. Also, please
stop stop being mad at me.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I did. I made a boo boo.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I made an error in talking about the Minnesota election results.
I think I got the the governor primary and the
Senate primary.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I might have said the wrong thing.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I can't remember now, but I'm going to tell you
what's going on here, Okay, So if I said the
wrong thing about the Minnesota primary, I'm updating it now
with the right thing about the results you had. The
Democrat US Senate primary was an open Senate seat after
Senator Tina Smith retired. So Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan, who
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is a progressive leftist, defeated Representative Angie Craig by a
pretty big margin. Flanagan will face Republican Michelle Tafoya in
the general election.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So that was for the Senate seat.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Now on the governor's race, you had Minnesota House Speaker
Lisa Demouth defeated My Pillow founder Mike Lindell, who was
Trump endorsed, among others.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
She defeated by the way.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
She beat Lindell by eleven points forty three thirty two percent.
And then in the Democrat governor prime Democratic governor primary,
Senator Amy Klobashar won easily and will face Dumouth in November. Okay,
so I want to line all these things up. I
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will say I think that for the state of Minnesota,
Minnesota House Speaker Timuth is a more likely challenge than
I think Mike Lindell would have been. Mike was Trump endorsed,
but remember Minnesota's gone blue in recent elections, and it's
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a pretty It's become a pretty blue state. So I
don't think that Mike would have had a realistic shot
at all. Look, I think that Minnesota is going to
be tough for Republicans period in this mid drum election cycle.
I think Michelle Tafoya is a great candidate on the
Senate side of things, but she's up against a very
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entrenched and savvy political operator with Flannagan here, who that's
also going to be a big ask.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
That's not going to be a I wouldn't place a
big bet on that.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
One, is what I'm telling you. I think that things
are going to be a little bit more of a
challenge there. So that's that's the Minnesota the Minnesota result
or those are the results. And here is the now
Senate candidate, Peggy Flanagan, lieutenant governor, now Senate candidate, talking
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about she's going to make this as much about Trump
as possible.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Plate Cut eight.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Donald Trump has cost our state far too much already,
and we are not about to give Donald Trump another
loyal soldier like Michelle Tafoya to take his orders.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And do his bidding.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Michelle Tafoya was all in with Trump when Ice was
terrorizing our neighbors. The last thing this country needs is
to give Donald Trump another Yes, Sir, Senator, Trump cut
fifteen million people off of their healthcare, and Michelle Tafoya said, yes, sir,
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tax breaks for billionaires, Yes, sir, you bet you.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Okay, Notice how the whole thing here for her is
to try to make this as much as possible about
Trump because she thinks that's going to be in her interest.
The other part of this is making it about Ice,
which is fascinating to me because I understand that Minneapolis
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was the scene of some fatal exchange with an ICE
officer and some maniac, and then this became a big,
a big uh you know, brew haha nationally, a big
to do, and this is something that Democrats think is
going to mobilize their base. They are looking for an
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issue where they have the moral high ground to get
people for whom the vote is really just a proxy
for a virtue signal. Right, I'm going to vote for
this Democrat in Minnesota because that's what the good people do,
who are nice to everybody and all this other stuff.
But it's fascinating to me that in a generally very
white state like Minnesota, you see Democrats trying to make
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this about immigration enforcement as much as possible. I understand
they're illegals who make their way up to Minnesota. But
you know it's not a border state. Well I'm sorry,
not a southern border state.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Of course it is.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I don't think they're as worried about masses of Canadians
who are coming in to infiltrate and take welfare and
all the rest of it. I know there's some infiltration
from Canada that occurs, but of illegals, but it's far
different numbers. And obviously Trump has secured the borders very well.
So this isn't really about immigration policy in Minnesota. It's
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creating a narrative that will make people who are easily
let's say, their minds are easily molded, make them feel
like they're good people because they're voting against Trump and
against the mean ice raids. You know, law enforcement at
some level has to be willing to do things that
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are rough, because it's the state exercising a monopoly on
the use of force lawfully, without which how do you
have the enforcement of any laws.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
You see this with.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
People who play the game, and you know, with the
body cams, I will say, not only have bodycams been
the single biggest impediment to the Black Lives Matter movement,
and I think they've made the argument better than any person,
better than I ever could or anyone else ever could,
about why BLM is essentially rooted in just lies and
misdirection and nonsense, very poisonous, very dangerous nonsense, I might add.
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But you see people in these law enforcement of all situations,
whether even for like a speeding ticket, and they'll play
the game of I'm not going to show you my ID,
and then they'll say they'll try to stall install, and
at some point the cop says, you can see endless
clips like this online. I'm giving you a lawful order.
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You're going to comply, You're going to be arrested. And
now that all is still just verbal exchange. At some
point beyond that, the cops have to physically apprehend the
individual and physically bring them for arrest and processing, and
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then they'll get their day in court, they'll see a judge,
and you know they'll be released, especially for something like
a traffic involved situation. But people have to be willing.
Law enforcement officers have to be willing and capable and
supported in putting their hands on somebody and saying you're
coming with me, and then escalating as needed if that
person refuses. Otherwise there's no loss. Otherwise it's I'm just
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not good at you guys. Remember I love the movie Tombstone.
I've probably seen it fifty times. One of Val Kilmer's
best roles. I think my brother and I argue whether
he's better in Tombstone or better in Heat. But Valcolmer
was phenomenal in Tombstone. And there's a scene where it's
actually Kurt Russell playing Wyat and there's some guy I
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think his name is Sheriff be Han or Meehan or
b I think it's be Han in the movie, and
he's a kind of a dandy fellow who's the on paper,
the sheriff, but he's really just a tool of the
cowboys who've overrun the town. And and he just says
Kurt Russell just kind of looks at him, and at
one point says, I don't think I'm gonna I don't
think i'm gonna let you arrest me today.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And that's really really just puts the guy in his place.
You can't have that.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
You can't have people that just say, sorry, you're the cop,
but I can't arrest you. Now, this applies to Ice too.
That's why I'm talking about it. Ice is enforcing laws.
If people are going to run, resist, do all these things,
that that means that either ice officers are going to
physically wrestle them to the ground and put handcuffs on them,
and if they try to ram them with their car,
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use lethal force to defend themselves as necessary, or else
we don't have immigration laws. You see, we keep going
back through the same game, the same stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Right, Oh, why do you have to do that? Why
why this looks.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Ugly when the cops are wrestling somebody to the ground
who is resisting arrest or you know it's going to
look ugly.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
It's force.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And we would like to live in a society of
angels where none of this is needed and there's no cops,
and then you could abolish police. We do not, and
people who are unwilling to comply with verbal commands are
going to have hands put on them.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
By law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
The only alternative to that is we don't actually have
the enforcement of laws, and that anybody can just decide. Sorry,
b hand, I don't feel like being arrested today. And
this is why the stuff about ice and the ice involved.
Keep in mind, ice is deported. Gosh, I got to
check on the latest numbers hundreds of thousands of people
this year. Over two million self deportations happened the first
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year at Trump, but there are hundreds of thousands of
people who have been deported, tens of thousands of arrests
going on in recent months. I got to look at
the latest numbers, and truth is, there's going to be
sometimes ugly situations involving those who try to ram cops
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or try to do things like that. It is unfortunate,
but it is reality. People like Democrat Minnesota Senate candidate
Peggy Flanagan are emotionally weaponizing this as propaganda for the
purposes of being put into office so that we can
have a Democrat well, a Democrat controlled Senate, and in
their minds, hopefully a Democrat controlled White House, which will
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then kick the borders wide open once again. That is
the whole game here, she is saying this, this is
cut nine play it.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Let's talk about Donald Trump's out of control Ice force.
We need to rip Ice apart and stop them from
terrorizing our communities. And I know this. I know that
we can fix our broken immigration system, secure the border,
and create a real pathway to citizenship that aligns with
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our values, and we are going to stop Donald Trump's
billion dollar a day a legal war in Iran and
the crushing gas and fertilizer prices. We are going to
fight the corruption, whether it's in the White House or
in the halls of Congress, because the grift has to stop.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
So a few things on you're noticing, these are the
lines of attack that a lot of Democrats are going
to be using. The Ice issue because of the Ice
involved shooting in Minnesota from some months back, that's become
very very emotional for Democrats, and the street communists are
are shouting this all the time. We need to rip
Ice part and stop them from terrorizing our communities. She says,
(31:03):
I live in Miami. There's no Ice. Isn't terrorizing anybody here.
How is Ice terrorizing communities by enforcing the law in communities?
Do those laws not count? Should we just ignore it?
Speaker 7 (31:17):
All?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I know Democrats would actually say yes, they want us
to ignore all those laws. But that undermines our entire system,
It undermines our sovereignty as a nation. It's just fundamentally wrong.
But they are an open Border's party pathway to citizenship.
Ask ask yourself this question, if Democrats one in twenty
eight and they were able to just as a.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Game this out a little bit.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
If they were able to pass a mass amnesty for
the I don't know, twenty five thirty million illegals that
are in the country right now, if they're able to
do that mass amnesty for all of them, on what
basis would they tell anybody arriving after that, well, you're
not allowed to st What principle will they be able
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to reassert after that mass amnesty? Would they even want
to reassert it? Of course not, because they view the
importation of overwhelmingly people from non white majority countries and
Third World impoverished countries as part of the socialist project
of America which is essentially a form of colonial colonialism
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reparations America. Their ideology as America got rich by exploiting
every other country that's poor. It's nonsense, but this is
what they believe. They believe that America is a white
supremacist country because of the legacy and a history of
slavery and a whole bunch of other stuff that they
will throw into the mix there. And they think that
that has to also there has to be a penance
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for that, and so that penance is to bring as
many people into the country who don't share our values,
who don't speak our language. It's the dissolution of America.
That's actually the plan here. It becomes some other country.
They can maybe think that that country is going to
be so great and so much better. I don't know
on what basis they'd make that case, but it's not
going to be the same country if they have their way,
that is for sure. This is what we're heading towards.
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This is what we're fighting against. And i'd also those
reminder the Ice issue, we can come back to this
we needed well, you know what, I'll leave it for now.
I won't re litigate some of the choices involving Ice
leadership in this moment for the administration, but I'm just
saying this is now a major challenge for all Republicans
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Welcome back in here to Clay and Bucks. So it's
Lisa Daymouth. I am told you know, Daymouth. That's a
tough one. Got to keep up on all these surnames,
which can be variable in the pronunciations. But Minnesota House
Speaker Lisa Daymouth defeated My pillow founder Mike Lindell, and
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so she is now running for that governor's seat or
governor's position against Amy Klobashar, she of I believe used.
Was it a Klobashar who when she ran for president
they said she ate salad with a comb and threw
an eraser at somebody? Or am I confusing her with
somebody else? I think that I think those were the
(35:42):
I just remember eating salad with a cot. Now what
I really wanted to know about this is was it
a used comb or was it just like one straight
out of the plastic.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I think that makes a difference. Uh, Tommy and Minneapolis
lived in Minnesota's whole life. He wants to talk to us.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
What's up, Tommy, Tommy, all you guys doing today, We're good, man,
but please, you got forty seconds, go for it.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
You know, I've lived here my whole life, and I
think we've succeeded from the United States. And I'll tell
you when they did that, they dumped our flag, our
States flag, and they put in a plombic flag up
and if you look at it, you don't even look
like we're living in the United States anymore. You, I mean,
all that they do up here is so bad. You
have no say in anything. Nobody wanted this flag and
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if you check it out, it's it's not anything to
do with the United States. Nothing.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah, somehow, many, I mean somehow Minnesota, rather in Minneapolis
has gotten a whole lot more progressive, a whole lot
more left wing since I was a kid too. So
we'll talk about more on this, the surge of the
left and AOC is single coming up.
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