August 11, 2026 • 36 mins
In Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Clay and Buck cover a wide range of political, cultural, and social issues dominating the national conversation, with a particular focus on the intersection of politics, elections, gender debates, socialism, and voter sentiment ahead of the 2026 midterms. The hour opens with discussion of the growing public fascination with the WNBA controversy involving gender identity and transgender athletes, as the hosts note increasing media coverage and audience engagement surrounding reports that biological males have declared for the WNBA draft. They argue that the issue has become one of the most talked-about topics in sports and politics, touching on broader debates involving women’s sports, fairness, race, and gender.
The hosts then shift to ongoing fallout from the COVID-19 pandemic and Anthony Fauci-era public health policies, revisiting concerns about COVID vaccine recommendations for pregnant women. Clay and Buck argue that critics of official pandemic guidance were often dismissed despite what they describe as legitimate questions and uncertainties that existed at the time. The discussion ties into broader themes of institutional trust, government transparency, and public skepticism toward health authorities.
A major portion of Hour 1 focuses on the increasingly consequential 2026 midterm elections, particularly the Wisconsin governor’s race and Michigan’s Senate contest. Clay and Buck analyze Democratic candidate Francesca Hong, highlighting past controversial statements including comments about abolishing prisons, defunding police, and “canceling Thanksgiving.” They argue that such positions may be politically damaging in a statewide election and discuss why prominent progressive figures such as Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) have reportedly avoided endorsing her. The conversation expands into a broader examination of whether progressive Democrats are overreaching politically and whether moderate voters will reject far-left candidates in key battleground states.
The hosts also debate Republican prospects in the upcoming midterm elections, with Buck expressing concern that Republicans face difficult political terrain while Clay remains optimistic about GOP chances. Their analysis includes discussion of voter turnout, demographic shifts, and the importance of candidate quality in closely contested races. Particular attention is paid to Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed, the role of Muslim-American voters, and the influence of outside political spending from organizations attempting to shape the race.
Another central topic in Hour 1 is the rise of democratic socialism and anti-capitalist rhetoric among younger voters. Clay and Buck discuss the popularity of progressive figures such as Zohran Mamdani, AOC, and other left-wing politicians, arguing that economic frustration, high housing costs, student debt burdens, and dissatisfaction with the modern economy are fueling support for socialist policies. They examine why younger Americans, especially those living in expensive cities such as New York, may feel disconnected from traditional free-market arguments. The hosts contend that a lack of historical knowledge about socialism, communism, and the Cold War contributes to growing support for policies they view as economically dangerous.
The discussion continues with criticism of California Governor Gavin Newsom, who they accuse of attacking capitalism despite having personally benefited from it. Clay and Buck argue that modern Democratic messaging increasingly appeals to emotions and economic frustration rather than promoting policies grounded in economic realities. They also compare Newsom’s rhetoric to statements from Francesca Hong, contending that progressive leaders downplay concerns about socialism by focusing on issues like minimum wage increases and worker protections.
The hour includes listener interactions and call-ins, with audience members weighing in on Democratic Party divisions, socialism, transgender issues, and political communication. One exchange addresses the distinction between “democratic socialism” and socialism more broadly, leading to a discussion of historical examples from communist movements and the importance of civic and historical literacy.
The program also briefly turns to crime and public safety, previewing discussion of improving murder-rate statistics and touching on the devastating Washington state wildfires near Spokane. The hosts discuss reports of widespread property destruction, evacuations, and concerns about insurance disputes following natural disasters, emphasizing the challenges homeowners face when dealing with insurance claims.
The final segment of Hour 1 becomes more lighthearted, featuring Buck’s son “Speed Sexton” making a brief a
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of Clay and Buck
Smart Fun, saying that's how we bring it, that's what
we do for all of you every day.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Thanks for being here. We got more on the WNBA.
Play is like the official WNBA analyst corresponding many jump
in here for a minute. Buck, the numbers on the
WNBA gender controversies, race controversies. It's gotten so big that
(00:32):
I just was watching my quadbox. CNN is now forced
to cover the fact that two men have declared for
the WNBA draft. Usually they try to just avoid stories
like these. As you know, I think the data. I mean,
the five most watched YouTube clips from last week's show
were all us discussing gender and race related controversies in
(00:54):
the WNBA. So the marketplace I just tweeted this, the
market for this story is insatiable. Insatiable. So we're going
to talk about a lot of different things. Sorry to
cut you off, but that is a peak behind the curtain.
Sometimes stories are out there and people lead with them.
We've talked about the power that these networks can have.
(01:15):
They can cover things that otherwise would not be news
and turn them into news. This is an example I
think of chasing. What is something that is deeply talked
about that has started with the ten million dollar challenge
and I think it's everywhere. But we will continue on
a variety of fronts. But I do think this is
(01:36):
this is rare that I'm staggered by how much demand
there is for a story. This one surprised me. Now
we take you back to the top of the menu.
Clay wanted to give you details on a special. It's
a special, So yeah, there you go. He didn't tell
you what the price. Well, I guess the price for
the specials ten million dollars actually, so we know that's
the market price, ten million dollars. By the way, word
to the wise, whenever you're at a restaurant, I don't
(01:57):
know how often you guys all experience this. If they're
selling you really fresh fish and they price it by
the ounce, watch out because nobody can do that math
in their head. And all of a sudden you find
yourself with a very big bill just telling you from
somebody who lives near the water. That's the way it goes.
Now we have the aftermath of fauci. Have you never
experienced that, You've never gotten like a like a grilled
(02:19):
fish and you find out it was sixteen ounces that
you know, twenty dollars an ounce or something crazy. It's
interesting you actually have me deep in thought. I've only
seen steaks priced by ounce. I'll then it's the same
thing seafood. Yes, yeah, then you know it's a mortgage payment.
When the steak is priced by the ounce, it's a
mortgage payment. Just get ready for it when it starts
saying wag you, and then some Japanese stuff after it,
(02:40):
like the actual prefecture and everything. Who then you're in
trouble when Kamala runs. I'm gonna make you take me
to one of these ounce steak places. Yeah, I know.
It's like butter on your tongue when they sell that
steak by ounce, Like you taste that thing. And I
remember the first time I did it, I was like,
there's no way this can be that much different than
a normal stake like at dambidly at like Outback or
(03:04):
Texas road House or someplace like that where I'm typically
out eating steaks. But it was like butter on the tongue,
like unbelievable. I now return us to the news cycle.
Fauci the COVID shot the pregnant women angle of this.
We talked to Ron Johnson yesterday. There's a lot of
response to this. Look, there's gonna be some people, I mean,
(03:27):
O Clay, there's gonna be some people who say it's
not smoking gun proof. It was a possibility, Okay, Yeah,
but they they shut down all concerns about all possibilities,
knowing that they were real possibilities and therefore real concerns.
So that's valid WNBA. We're going to dive into that.
Trump reacting to a bunch of stuff in the Oval office.
Today is decision day Wisconsin for the governor's race. Interesting there,
(03:52):
Clay that the progressives, at least according to Politico, Well,
to be fair, an endorsement is a book record thing.
A lot of far left people or far left star makers,
I should say, for the progressives like Bernie Sanders are
not endorsing Francesca Hong Okazio Cortez not endorsing her, and
(04:12):
I think it's because they worry that she's too much
baggage in the general. So it's interesting there is still
a line for progressives on this stuff. If you you
know what, I think the worst thing that she has
said is cancel Thanksgiving. I agree. I think that's just
there's a lot of you can say abolish prisons and
walk that back with like what I meant was, and
(04:33):
start throwing out some nonsense cancel Thanksgiving, like who wants
to cancel Thanksgiving? This would be like saying I want
to make cheeseburgers illegal. You're not going to win in
America if you say, I just think we need a
ban on cheeseburgers. They need to be alongside cocaine on
the drug schedule. This is also where some people, and
(04:55):
I'm affectionately calling you this who are nerds, get really
upset because they say, I don't know why we aren't
talking about tax policy or the national debt or other
very significant issues. And this is where I just have
to say, it's hard to cut through the noise. When
(05:15):
you say cancel Thanksgiving. Everybody's antenna goes up and they
look around and they say, what It's like a record
scratch moment when you say, hey, we need to have
a policy when it comes to taxes that is, and
people's eyes glaze over because they don't really understand it
very well. Communication still matters, but this is like the
(05:38):
Women's sports issue and you say, hey, chicks with penises
are actual chicks. There's a better word that rhymes. And
then when you say cancel Thanksgiving people just it's a
record scratch. It makes you recognize just how discordant and
out of tune and touch you are with that person.
(06:00):
And I think she's I love that she said, did
you see the latest? She said, my bad on some
of my past takes. There you go, that's very gen z.
I do love that you could just wasn't it you?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Who was?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Just? What was your uh?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Nobody's perfect. Nobody's when when you're in an argument with
your wife and she's got you and you know you're wrong,
don't apologize, just look at her and dismissively say, nobody's perfect.
That's so good. Nobody's perfect. Basically, basically, Francesca Hong is
pulling the buck Sexton. Nobody's perfect. My bad is like
(06:37):
what you say when somebody got screened and you didn't
get your hand up in front of the shooter and
he made a basket. It's not when you say, hey,
we need to end all police and we need to
abolish prisons, and we need to cancel Thanksgiving. You and
I agree abolishing police at least sounds like a policy decision.
(06:57):
So as crazy as it is, and it's very unpoppus,
they're politically and it's insane and we've gone over that
a million times. Cancel Thanksgiving is just insane. Nobody wants
to cancel Thanksgiving. That's not even a thing. I mean,
it would be like saying I want to cancel fun.
Why would you ever want to cancel or delicious food.
I want to cancel delicious food. So that I understand
(07:18):
you might think, oh, but buck all this different stuff.
The reason AOC and Bernie because right now there's a
momentum behind this progressive stuff, right and they got thats
on piker guy running around and crazy stuff. By the way,
he's also doing some of the my bad but he
does it with America deserved nine to eleven. But you know,
this is what you're seeing happening. There are a bunch
(07:39):
of progressives who have won and they're gearing up for
a midterm. People can disagree. I think they smell metaphorically
Republican blood in the water. The sharks are circling. I
think they think that we're in a tough spot right
now and we can get into this. But even with that,
Clay Francesca Hong concerns them and they don't want to
(08:00):
either brand to a basically can't win campaign. I'm telling you,
I think it's because she said she's well, it's to
cancel Thanksgiving. I just don't think you can win the
state of Wisconsin. I think you might be able to win,
you know, like a suburb of Boston or something. Well,
actually not even because they love their history of there.
I'm trying to think of a very little you might
be able to win, like a San Francisco, you know,
(08:21):
Alderman Seed or something whatever they call it. But I
don't think you can be governor of Wisconsin. Sadly to
be able to win parts of Madison, which is a
very left wing University of Madison, Wisconsin location right University
of Wisconsin Madison for those of you out there, I
think I reversed it. Great place to watch a football game,
by the way, at least when it's not cold. But
(08:43):
I will say this is I think what may end
up saving Republicans. There is an overreach that is not
dissimilar to what we saw in twenty twenty two, where
less moderate candidates were selected further right candidates than the
moderate ones because people were so angry at Biden, and
(09:07):
as a result, moderate voters in many different states that
were winnable didn't go with the Republican candidate. I think
Abdul l Sied being selected in Michigan, Mike Rodgers is
going to win. I really do think that. Now that's
a fifty to fifty race in the prediction markets right now,
So that's not a crazy predictions coin flip. And Francesca
(09:30):
Hang if she is the nominee, as everyone expects that
she will be for the Democrats after this day, sixty
five percent chance now buck that Republicans are going to
take back the governor's seat in Wisconsin. So going left
wing and picking a thirty seven year old former Bartender
state rep. Who was wants to cancel Thanksgiving is actually
(09:52):
going to end up blowing up in the face of
the Democrats, much like we still happen in twenty two.
So I'll give you a few things on this. First
of all, this is a bit of role reversal because
in August of twenty four you were concerned about Kamala v. Trump. Now,
to be fair, that was before she had said anything,
and I was like, I'm sure she's going I'm sure
he's going to win by more than he even beat
(10:14):
Hillary by, because I had faith that Kamal was so terrible.
Now that overconfidence in Kamala's terribleness, by the way, is
eventually going to cost me a stake, because then I
took that too far afterwards with my she's not even good.
She's clearly going to run. But you know, I made
a crazy clay. He's very notice this. He likes the gambling.
He's very good at this. He knew that I was
throwing out a sucker's bet. It should have been the
(10:35):
bet should have been she won't be the nominee. I'm
not even as confident about that anymore. That would be
a real bet. Took her, but I took her with
a bunch of our friends. I was out to dinner
in La I'll put him on the just admit it.
A Alexi Wallace like, he was like, there's no way
that's we were out. He was one of the guys
at dinner. Everybody at the table we were with took
(10:56):
me on the opposite side. I think there were five
guys there. I bet them all Kamalo will be the nominee.
But I just I wanted to give this preamble because
I was super confident in Trump in twenty twenty four.
I did not There was not a single day from
when the Biden debate happened and that I didn't think
Trump was gonna win. I'm like, Trump's gonna win. This
(11:16):
is all over, game, set match, one hundred percent. So
that that ended up being correct. I'm very pessimistic this
time for Republicans. It's not Trump, but for Republicans, I
am pessimistic now, certainly about the House. I think the
Senate is going to be a It'll come down to
a seat or two. This is not some crazy prediction.
I think a lot of people think so. I mean,
it's come down to a race or two. And I
(11:38):
think that the Michigan Senate race is going to be
decided by you can mark this. It'll be decided by
I'm not going to pick a winner in it, hoping
Mike Rodgers pulls it out. That's going to be decided
by less than thirty thousand votes. I think I don't
think that's a crazy take. I mean, I would say
it's going to be the closest of all the Senate
races would be my prediction right now. I think Mike
(11:58):
Rodgers will get us across the line there. He lost
by nineteen thousand. Again, we got a huge audience in Michigan.
A lot of this is going to come down to
how aware are a lot of non traditional voters who
show up and support Trump. Will those same guys and
a lot of them are guys, particularly in rural areas,
(12:19):
will they show up and vote in a midterm race
with Trump off the ballot. I think that's the biggest challenge.
You're also going to see a Muslim American turnout in
Michigan for Abdul El sayed that it's going to set
the all time record for their participation by far, and
you're going to see ninety nine percent of them who
(12:40):
vote are going to vote for Abdul El sayed. It's
going to be an absence. So you know that's a
part of that. And as you know, Michigan has a
very substantial Muslim population, so that makes a difference here.
So APAC spent thirty million dollars bet going with Hailey
Stevens over abdul l Sayad, I'm meant to bring in
my print edition of The New York Times this morning.
(13:02):
Apak is going to evidently spend big money on Mike Rogers.
They have never this is a sign of shifting political wins.
They have really never stepped into a controversial race like
this on the side of a Republican So they dislike
Abdul l Sayed so much that they are going to
be spending reports are tens of millions of dollars on
(13:26):
Mike Rogers' side to try to persuade people Jewish voters
in particular not to vote for el Sayed. I think
it will be unpersuasive. Okay, I think that that's I
think that that money. I will tell you right now.
I'm not an apac advisor or anything. I think that
money is wasted. I don't think they're going to be
votes a million. I mean, they already put thirty million
(13:48):
into Hailey Stevens and he beat him. So but this
is what I'm saying. People always talk about money in politics,
and they understand there's a correlation, not a causation. Mike
Bloomberg is one of the richest people in the entire world,
probably worth what one hundred billion now something like that.
He spent hundreds of millions of dollars on his mayoral
race back in the day, or one hundred million dollars
(14:08):
back in the day. And Clay when he ran for president,
he couldn't get above like one percent or something. I mean,
it was he was a blip on the screen. Money
doesn't mean victory. Money is necessary. And abd al say
Ed's gonna have a lot of money coming in from
the coasts. He's gonna have a lot of money pouring
into his side too. So a Clay he also guys,
you know, you notice a little good cop bad cop here. Okay,
(14:29):
Clay can give you the the the unicorns and the
fairy dust that everything's great and Rainbow's we're all gonna win.
I'm here to tell you I'm worried. Okay, I'm worried.
I'm confident. I feel good right there, we go three
months out, he's confident. You can all like Clay and
his confidence and be mad at me for my worry,
But I kind of want the Trumpster to get out there.
I know it's the summer and no one's doing anything,
(14:51):
but after Labor Day, we got to see a lot
of action from a lot of Republicans out there making
the case about this communist surge and the Democrats. These
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We're going to get into some murder data that is
actually a very positive story. Probably continue to talk about
Wisconsin and Minnesota making primary decisions. A week from today
is Florida, and then we're basically going to be nearly
through all of the primary process of who the nominees
are going to be, and we'll be into the midterms.
(16:38):
And a gentleman with the great name of Clay in Cheyenne, Wyoming, Well,
he wants to weigh get way in on our open here. Clay,
what do you.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Think, hey, Clay? Well, I totally agree with you. I
think the Democrats not only lack leadership, they lack a
clear platform. It seems very horrifically fractured to me. And
I think that party is in disarray more than most realized.
And I think this is just a very unconventional set
of circumstances as we go into this midterm. And I
really like our chances. I think Bucks takes a little
(17:09):
bill conventional for me, but I'm like you, I feel good.
I think we're going to surprise people this November. And
by the way, you're more than welcome to accept my
invitation to the Convention of Clay's. It meets every October
in Washington, DC.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I don't know anything about this. How many people named
Clay show up for the Clay Convention.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I haven't been in a number of years, but last
time I was there, it was definitely more than a thousand.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I didn't know that. Wow, that's interesting. I've never had
Everyone named Clay is way too optimistic about the Republican's chances.
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how many people in America have got a who comment
(19:44):
on things are perfect, looking, incredibly successful, handsome and funny
and better than everybody at everything else. That is amazing
to me. I will say, how if you are a
comment or online, your perfection is beyond question. And the
people who are just people who are doing what they
do are full of flaws that must be pointed out constantly.
(20:06):
That is an interesting phenomenon that I have noticed. I
would say, oh, let's get to h This is from
Glenn Eric from Glen Falls, New York.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Hit it, Hey, Clayton Buck, I got one for you
guys to figure out for me. When they put the
word democratic in front of socialists, it's supposed to be
something different. But when they put the word trance in
front of woman, we're supposed to believe it's the same
thing as just a woman.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
A very very fair point. And by the way, as
I keep telling people that don't fall into these definitional games,
they do this because first of all, it's like a
pseudo intellectualism that people on the left have, you know,
when they're like, oh, I'm sure, do you really know
about Stalin? I know that he killed millions of people
and he was really bad. Like, yes, I do actually
(20:54):
know about stalf you know, not talking about just me.
Actually I know more than most leftist about Stalin. But
the point is, in general, you can just know the
things you have to know and don't let them challenge
you with minutia or the specificity of things.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
How many of the people do you think that are
actually called in the DSA Clay know Stalin's name in
the underground? How many even know that Stalin isn't really
his name, and that it was like a nom de
guerre and it means man of steel. How many would
even they don't know any of this stuff. They know nothing,
but though through the we're democratic socialists. How many do
you think know that the Bolsheviks, the original communists, called
(21:28):
for elections. They were all about elections the first time,
so that they could then get a mandate to tell
everybody else that we're in charge, and now we line
you up against the wall. Right, so democratic socialists played
the Bolsheviks were democratic socialists until they weren't. Yeah, and look,
a lot of people who are listening to us from
Latin America have experienced in real time the creep of
(21:50):
socialism into totalitarianism. No one knows what you just laid out.
The average historical knowledge of American history in this cory
is virtually nonexistent, much less what people know about the
history of politics in the world. Sadly, how many people
even know about the Berlin Wall falling. I mean, I
(22:13):
think a huge percentage of the kids. And I'm defining
kids broadly to include a lot of people in their twenties,
because that's a big part of his coalition. A lot
of people who voted for Mom Donnie in New York
City aren't even familiar with the Cold War or the
era of the Berlin Wall coming down and Eastern Europe
becoming free. It's out of their worldview. Heck, it's been
(22:37):
twenty five years since nine to eleven. A lot of
kids don't even know about nine to eleven. And so
this is why historical literacy, illiteracy and historical literacy is
so important, because we don't teach basic history anymore. They've
turned history into sociology, so it's really just a study
(22:58):
of different oppressed class than how they interact. And the
actual baseline knowledge of history, both world and American, I
think has never been lower. And I think that's intentional,
because if you have the memory of a goldfish, you're
easier to manipulate. That's the reality. I mean, it's scary
(23:18):
how few people know basic history. And then if you
combine it buck with how few people know basic history
and how few people know basic financial literacy, how many
what percentage of people know how a mortgage works. What
percentage of people can accurately tell you what the impact
(23:38):
of twenty percent interest on a credit card is over
multiple years. People have no clue, So you get people
upset because they're in financially dire straits because they don't
know any better. Buck, and then they don't have historical knowledge.
So you just convince them, hey, you have to support
(23:59):
something new. They're not selling socialism, they're selling new. Oh,
this is new, even though it's failed in the past.
A lot of people look around, and especially this is
pertinent Buck, so many people. This is where I'm somewhat
sympathetic for many of these people. They went to high end,
expensive colleges, They got advanced degrees, masters in different fields.
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They are, by objective measures of testing, for instance, very smart,
but they have no actual common sense knowledge and the
market isn't valuing the education that they have. So if
you're living in New York City right now, mom and
dad are probably helping to pay your fifty five hundred
dollars a month one bedroom apartment rent that's the average
(24:47):
rent in Manhattan. Now you are making fifty thousand dollars
a year, which sounds like a lot of money. But
as you know, having lived in Manhattan, that's not even
enough to pay for a one bedroom apartment in Manhattan,
even your ten thousand dollars short on that salary by itself,
even as a young person starting there. So you're piling
multiple roommates in, you're borrowing from mom or dad, and
(25:10):
you're looking around and saying, why is capitalism not valuing
what I'm trying to sell. It must be because capitalism
isn't working. I'm a socialist. Now, do you know what
the poverty the poverty threshold is for benefits and things
in New York City for a single adult, it's about
fifty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Now, you might say that's crazy because the average household
income in America is fifty five sixty What is it
right now? I've got to check. It's been going up
in recent years. Yeah, it's more than that now, because
household is defined oftentimes as two people working together, right,
but individually fifty eighty three, So it's eighty three. Average
(25:53):
household income is eighty three average. I have to look
at average per capita income because that you're talking about
a single individual. To your point of play of man
and woman working both. But yes, my my point being
in New York City because of the cost of living,
if you're a single person making fifty thousand dollars a year,
you're in poverty basically, or you're right on the red
line of poverty. Which if you if you're a single
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guy and lived making fifty k a year and you
live in Tulsa, you're doing well. You know, you live
a nice place, probably have a nice car. You're paying
you know, paying for on the uh you know, on
the driveway. So it's very different. It's basically twice as
much to live in New York as it is to
live in most other metros. It's like double the so
if you make one hundred grand in New York City.
(26:36):
Also true in the Bay Area, but that's because of
all the AI and the Google and tech money. It's
like that's a whole other universe. But Clay, it's it's
really uh. In Miami actually now is as expensive as
New York City. Unfortunately, so well, and again I think
what this comes to is you are frustrated, and if
you are frustrated, you're able to be manipulated because you
(26:59):
have no historical knowledge. You don't have a lot of
financial literacy, so you're not able to keep in front
of your bills, and so you're looking around and saying,
if this isn't working for me, it has to be
that there is something that is broken in American capitalism,
and so that is who they are feeding on. And
(27:19):
they aren't really selling them socialism. They're just selling them
it isn't capitalism is not working for you. Let's try
this new thing, which as we know, is not actually new.
But if you're twenty five and you were born the
year that nine to eleven happened, socialism and communism can
seem like something that might value you more. So it's
(27:43):
illiteracy from a historical perspective coupled with frustration. Voila mom,
Donnie saying I'll make your groceries thirty percent cheaper and
I'll ensure that your rent isn't going to go up.
And if you want to get a census to how
much the dishonest Oh, it's not socialism, really, it's just
going to make your life easier and less expensive. Line
(28:04):
is Gavin Newsom is getting in on this game. It's
criticizing capitalism. It's cut sixteen play it capitalism as we
know it not gonna work. As we know it, it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Twenty stays still pay seven dollars twenty five cents a
minimum wage.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
We printed that first tree in her I was in
college democratic yesterday. It was interesting. Two of them said
that of all things they said, it was they said
that there's physiological for them.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Wasn't even a little.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
These are young people that felt something about that, and
the way it was interesting.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
One young lady said she she described it so vividly
in those terms.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
It was alarming to me because she just feels like
she's locked out of all of that. And so again,
I think our party needs to call that out concentration.
We need to call that out capitalism as we know
it's not gonna work. Gavin Newsom, what's you worth? Twenty
million dollars? Doesn't own a vineyard?
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
He used to at least yeah, he had a wine company,
a liquor store. In many different respects. I mean, he's
worth a ton of money. But again, this is this
is somebody who's become very rich in the capitalist system
and then turns around and instead of one being humble
and grateful for it, that's way too much to ask
it's Gavin Newsom, but to encouraging other people to also,
(29:22):
you know, to to experience and to chase after the
benefits of a capitalist system. He's playing the emotions game,
that's right, playing to their emotions, and it's it's working.
And this is why yesterday we were saying that aoc
in the way that she's able to speak authentically to
(29:43):
the audience even while selling something that is awful. And actually,
this is the other important thing, Buck actually is going
to make things worse. Right, All of the processes that
are being put in place by Mom Donnie are likely
to make the average New Yorker's life worse than it
(30:03):
would have been if they had never ever embraced it
at all. But they feel like they're doing something, and
that is who Mom Donnie is taking advantage of. The
kids call it the vibes. The vibe and you even
have politicians now who will use this phraseology because they
know that it appeals to the under thirty crowd, which
(30:25):
is a substantive. They don't vote in high numbers, but
there's a lot of them, and it's a vote that
could be very useful for Democrats in these places and
Clay here real quick, before we here's Francesca Hong sounding
just like Avenuwsom on the We're not going to turn
into communism. Just look at our minimum wage laws. Play fifteen.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
This is you fear that democratic socialism could turn into communism?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
What would you want them to know?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
No, this is a state where we still have a
two thirty three tip minimum wage and seven twenty five
minimum wage. I think it's going to be pretty hard
to turn that into socialism soon, Clay.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I just want to note they both Gavin Newson Man
Francisca Hong talking minimum wage right away. This is like
when you say, hey, I think communism is bad and
people say, oh, do you like the forty hour work week?
Do you like weekends? Yeah? That's really That's really what
we're talking about here, Clay. Minimum wage is one of
these things. And it's true, by the way, even on
the right, it never works the way that people who
(31:23):
want it think it works. There are always trade offs,
but it sounds good and people like it, so it wins.
I will point out Francesca Hong, who is on the
ballot today and is going to become probably the Democrat nominee.
As you said, she's not being endorsed by people on
the left. I think it's because they don't respect her intelligence.
I really do. I mean, when she gets these questions,
(31:45):
she's incapable of answering them. You may not like Mom
Donnie's answers, you may not like abdual Lsayed's answers, you
might not even like AOC's answers. But they have a
just a smoothness in their glib answer and grin dynamic
that she does not have that allows them to get
(32:07):
past some of these questions. Does that make sense? They
can they can confidently parrot the mandatory phrases. That's right.
She can't do it for whatever reason. And I think
that they know that she's going to get exposed on
a level that even AOC can't get exposed on. Look, unfortunately,
we have a huge audience in Spokane. There have been
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(34:19):
We have got a special guest, Speed Sexton sitting right now,
got a ball in his hand. Can now say ball
has been barking like a dog. Yes, putting on quite
the show. He likes ball. Mama, data and ball are
the favorite words. And he likes rook a trio at Ginger,
Spice the dog and who is under my feet right now?
(34:42):
So she may be barking in the second here. But
speed we call this the speed cam and Clay our
YouTubers demanded, They said, we need a speed appearance. So
I said, the speed cam will get fired up, and
here we are. Can you can you wave? Can you
wave for everybody? Buddy? You want to wave? It wants
to play ball, which is you know what. I don't
blame you. Uh And there's a lot of guys and
(35:04):
gals out there right now that wouldn't mind being able
to uh to play ball too instead of being at work.
Is definitely fun. I think we've got a future major
leaguer on our hands here. The problem, now, by the way,
is when he leaves the studio, he gets upset. He
likes he likes this room. There's a lot of fun
lights and things, and so when when he goes out
(35:25):
of there, he's like, excuse me, this was my segment.
So you know we're gonna have to get something a
rider in his contract. All right, we gotta give by
the way loaded lines. But I wanted to hit this
because I thought it was entertaining. This was in the talkbacks, Buck,
someone is afraid that you are a little bit too
(35:49):
enamored of AOC And can we play that cut from
the talkback Boulder Dash Clay.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
You got to get Buck under control, man, Like he
is really into AOC.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I'm starting to think he's gonna like go out and
like start campaigning for it.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Man, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
She looks like a donkey Buck, I don't know. Man.
You think Anne Hathaway is ugly but she looks good, Like,
come on, dude, get it together.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Brother. I love you, but your take is horrible. Politics
and acting have different beauty standards. That's point one point two.
Nobody thinks AOC is ugly. Nobody thinks she's ugly. You
could say she's not like gorgeous. Fine, but for a politician,
play top tier, don't lie. She is the best booking
(36:34):
politician in America on the Democrat side, I don't think
there's any argument for that, certainly for a female. Davin
Newson's not bad looking either,
Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of Clay and Buck
Smart Fun, saying that's how we bring it, that's what
we do for all of you every day.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Thanks for being here. We got more on the WNBA.
Play is like the official WNBA analyst corresponding many jump
in here for a minute. Buck, the numbers on the
WNBA gender controversies, race controversies. It's gotten so big that
(00:32):
I just was watching my quadbox. CNN is now forced
to cover the fact that two men have declared for
the WNBA draft. Usually they try to just avoid stories
like these. As you know, I think the data. I mean,
the five most watched YouTube clips from last week's show
were all us discussing gender and race related controversies in
(00:54):
the WNBA. So the marketplace I just tweeted this, the
market for this story is insatiable. Insatiable. So we're going
to talk about a lot of different things. Sorry to
cut you off, but that is a peak behind the curtain.
Sometimes stories are out there and people lead with them.
We've talked about the power that these networks can have.
(01:15):
They can cover things that otherwise would not be news
and turn them into news. This is an example I
think of chasing. What is something that is deeply talked
about that has started with the ten million dollar challenge
and I think it's everywhere. But we will continue on
a variety of fronts. But I do think this is
(01:36):
this is rare that I'm staggered by how much demand
there is for a story. This one surprised me. Now
we take you back to the top of the menu.
Clay wanted to give you details on a special. It's
a special, So yeah, there you go. He didn't tell
you what the price. Well, I guess the price for
the specials ten million dollars actually, so we know that's
the market price, ten million dollars. By the way, word
to the wise, whenever you're at a restaurant, I don't
(01:57):
know how often you guys all experience this. If they're
selling you really fresh fish and they price it by
the ounce, watch out because nobody can do that math
in their head. And all of a sudden you find
yourself with a very big bill just telling you from
somebody who lives near the water. That's the way it goes.
Now we have the aftermath of fauci. Have you never
experienced that, You've never gotten like a like a grilled
(02:19):
fish and you find out it was sixteen ounces that
you know, twenty dollars an ounce or something crazy. It's
interesting you actually have me deep in thought. I've only
seen steaks priced by ounce. I'll then it's the same
thing seafood. Yes, yeah, then you know it's a mortgage payment.
When the steak is priced by the ounce, it's a
mortgage payment. Just get ready for it when it starts
saying wag you, and then some Japanese stuff after it,
(02:40):
like the actual prefecture and everything. Who then you're in
trouble when Kamala runs. I'm gonna make you take me
to one of these ounce steak places. Yeah, I know.
It's like butter on your tongue when they sell that
steak by ounce, Like you taste that thing. And I
remember the first time I did it, I was like,
there's no way this can be that much different than
a normal stake like at dambidly at like Outback or
(03:04):
Texas road House or someplace like that where I'm typically
out eating steaks. But it was like butter on the tongue,
like unbelievable. I now return us to the news cycle.
Fauci the COVID shot the pregnant women angle of this.
We talked to Ron Johnson yesterday. There's a lot of
response to this. Look, there's gonna be some people, I mean,
(03:27):
O Clay, there's gonna be some people who say it's
not smoking gun proof. It was a possibility, Okay, Yeah,
but they they shut down all concerns about all possibilities,
knowing that they were real possibilities and therefore real concerns.
So that's valid WNBA. We're going to dive into that.
Trump reacting to a bunch of stuff in the Oval office.
Today is decision day Wisconsin for the governor's race. Interesting there,
(03:52):
Clay that the progressives, at least according to Politico, Well,
to be fair, an endorsement is a book record thing.
A lot of far left people or far left star makers,
I should say, for the progressives like Bernie Sanders are
not endorsing Francesca Hong Okazio Cortez not endorsing her, and
(04:12):
I think it's because they worry that she's too much
baggage in the general. So it's interesting there is still
a line for progressives on this stuff. If you you
know what, I think the worst thing that she has
said is cancel Thanksgiving. I agree. I think that's just
there's a lot of you can say abolish prisons and
walk that back with like what I meant was, and
(04:33):
start throwing out some nonsense cancel Thanksgiving, like who wants
to cancel Thanksgiving? This would be like saying I want
to make cheeseburgers illegal. You're not going to win in
America if you say, I just think we need a
ban on cheeseburgers. They need to be alongside cocaine on
the drug schedule. This is also where some people, and
(04:55):
I'm affectionately calling you this who are nerds, get really
upset because they say, I don't know why we aren't
talking about tax policy or the national debt or other
very significant issues. And this is where I just have
to say, it's hard to cut through the noise. When
(05:15):
you say cancel Thanksgiving. Everybody's antenna goes up and they
look around and they say, what It's like a record
scratch moment when you say, hey, we need to have
a policy when it comes to taxes that is, and
people's eyes glaze over because they don't really understand it
very well. Communication still matters, but this is like the
(05:38):
Women's sports issue and you say, hey, chicks with penises
are actual chicks. There's a better word that rhymes. And
then when you say cancel Thanksgiving people just it's a
record scratch. It makes you recognize just how discordant and
out of tune and touch you are with that person.
(06:00):
And I think she's I love that she said, did
you see the latest? She said, my bad on some
of my past takes. There you go, that's very gen z.
I do love that you could just wasn't it you?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Who was?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Just? What was your uh?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Nobody's perfect. Nobody's when when you're in an argument with
your wife and she's got you and you know you're wrong,
don't apologize, just look at her and dismissively say, nobody's perfect.
That's so good. Nobody's perfect. Basically, basically, Francesca Hong is
pulling the buck Sexton. Nobody's perfect. My bad is like
(06:37):
what you say when somebody got screened and you didn't
get your hand up in front of the shooter and
he made a basket. It's not when you say, hey,
we need to end all police and we need to
abolish prisons, and we need to cancel Thanksgiving. You and
I agree abolishing police at least sounds like a policy decision.
(06:57):
So as crazy as it is, and it's very unpoppus,
they're politically and it's insane and we've gone over that
a million times. Cancel Thanksgiving is just insane. Nobody wants
to cancel Thanksgiving. That's not even a thing. I mean,
it would be like saying I want to cancel fun.
Why would you ever want to cancel or delicious food.
I want to cancel delicious food. So that I understand
(07:18):
you might think, oh, but buck all this different stuff.
The reason AOC and Bernie because right now there's a
momentum behind this progressive stuff, right and they got thats
on piker guy running around and crazy stuff. By the way,
he's also doing some of the my bad but he
does it with America deserved nine to eleven. But you know,
this is what you're seeing happening. There are a bunch
(07:39):
of progressives who have won and they're gearing up for
a midterm. People can disagree. I think they smell metaphorically
Republican blood in the water. The sharks are circling. I
think they think that we're in a tough spot right
now and we can get into this. But even with that,
Clay Francesca Hong concerns them and they don't want to
(08:00):
either brand to a basically can't win campaign. I'm telling you,
I think it's because she said she's well, it's to
cancel Thanksgiving. I just don't think you can win the
state of Wisconsin. I think you might be able to win,
you know, like a suburb of Boston or something. Well,
actually not even because they love their history of there.
I'm trying to think of a very little you might
be able to win, like a San Francisco, you know,
(08:21):
Alderman Seed or something whatever they call it. But I
don't think you can be governor of Wisconsin. Sadly to
be able to win parts of Madison, which is a
very left wing University of Madison, Wisconsin location right University
of Wisconsin Madison for those of you out there, I
think I reversed it. Great place to watch a football game,
by the way, at least when it's not cold. But
(08:43):
I will say this is I think what may end
up saving Republicans. There is an overreach that is not
dissimilar to what we saw in twenty twenty two, where
less moderate candidates were selected further right candidates than the
moderate ones because people were so angry at Biden, and
(09:07):
as a result, moderate voters in many different states that
were winnable didn't go with the Republican candidate. I think
Abdul l Sied being selected in Michigan, Mike Rodgers is
going to win. I really do think that. Now that's
a fifty to fifty race in the prediction markets right now,
So that's not a crazy predictions coin flip. And Francesca
(09:30):
Hang if she is the nominee, as everyone expects that
she will be for the Democrats after this day, sixty
five percent chance now buck that Republicans are going to
take back the governor's seat in Wisconsin. So going left
wing and picking a thirty seven year old former Bartender
state rep. Who was wants to cancel Thanksgiving is actually
(09:52):
going to end up blowing up in the face of
the Democrats, much like we still happen in twenty two.
So I'll give you a few things on this. First
of all, this is a bit of role reversal because
in August of twenty four you were concerned about Kamala v. Trump. Now,
to be fair, that was before she had said anything,
and I was like, I'm sure she's going I'm sure
he's going to win by more than he even beat
(10:14):
Hillary by, because I had faith that Kamal was so terrible.
Now that overconfidence in Kamala's terribleness, by the way, is
eventually going to cost me a stake, because then I
took that too far afterwards with my she's not even good.
She's clearly going to run. But you know, I made
a crazy clay. He's very notice this. He likes the gambling.
He's very good at this. He knew that I was
throwing out a sucker's bet. It should have been the
(10:35):
bet should have been she won't be the nominee. I'm
not even as confident about that anymore. That would be
a real bet. Took her, but I took her with
a bunch of our friends. I was out to dinner
in La I'll put him on the just admit it.
A Alexi Wallace like, he was like, there's no way
that's we were out. He was one of the guys
at dinner. Everybody at the table we were with took
(10:56):
me on the opposite side. I think there were five
guys there. I bet them all Kamalo will be the nominee.
But I just I wanted to give this preamble because
I was super confident in Trump in twenty twenty four.
I did not There was not a single day from
when the Biden debate happened and that I didn't think
Trump was gonna win. I'm like, Trump's gonna win. This
(11:16):
is all over, game, set match, one hundred percent. So
that that ended up being correct. I'm very pessimistic this
time for Republicans. It's not Trump, but for Republicans, I
am pessimistic now, certainly about the House. I think the
Senate is going to be a It'll come down to
a seat or two. This is not some crazy prediction.
I think a lot of people think so. I mean,
it's come down to a race or two. And I
(11:38):
think that the Michigan Senate race is going to be
decided by you can mark this. It'll be decided by
I'm not going to pick a winner in it, hoping
Mike Rodgers pulls it out. That's going to be decided
by less than thirty thousand votes. I think I don't
think that's a crazy take. I mean, I would say
it's going to be the closest of all the Senate
races would be my prediction right now. I think Mike
(11:58):
Rodgers will get us across the line there. He lost
by nineteen thousand. Again, we got a huge audience in Michigan.
A lot of this is going to come down to
how aware are a lot of non traditional voters who
show up and support Trump. Will those same guys and
a lot of them are guys, particularly in rural areas,
(12:19):
will they show up and vote in a midterm race
with Trump off the ballot. I think that's the biggest challenge.
You're also going to see a Muslim American turnout in
Michigan for Abdul El sayed that it's going to set
the all time record for their participation by far, and
you're going to see ninety nine percent of them who
(12:40):
vote are going to vote for Abdul El sayed. It's
going to be an absence. So you know that's a
part of that. And as you know, Michigan has a
very substantial Muslim population, so that makes a difference here.
So APAC spent thirty million dollars bet going with Hailey
Stevens over abdul l Sayad, I'm meant to bring in
my print edition of The New York Times this morning.
(13:02):
Apak is going to evidently spend big money on Mike Rogers.
They have never this is a sign of shifting political wins.
They have really never stepped into a controversial race like
this on the side of a Republican So they dislike
Abdul l Sayed so much that they are going to
be spending reports are tens of millions of dollars on
(13:26):
Mike Rogers' side to try to persuade people Jewish voters
in particular not to vote for el Sayed. I think
it will be unpersuasive. Okay, I think that that's I
think that that money. I will tell you right now.
I'm not an apac advisor or anything. I think that
money is wasted. I don't think they're going to be
votes a million. I mean, they already put thirty million
(13:48):
into Hailey Stevens and he beat him. So but this
is what I'm saying. People always talk about money in politics,
and they understand there's a correlation, not a causation. Mike
Bloomberg is one of the richest people in the entire world,
probably worth what one hundred billion now something like that.
He spent hundreds of millions of dollars on his mayoral
race back in the day, or one hundred million dollars
(14:08):
back in the day. And Clay when he ran for president,
he couldn't get above like one percent or something. I mean,
it was he was a blip on the screen. Money
doesn't mean victory. Money is necessary. And abd al say
Ed's gonna have a lot of money coming in from
the coasts. He's gonna have a lot of money pouring
into his side too. So a Clay he also guys,
you know, you notice a little good cop bad cop here. Okay,
(14:29):
Clay can give you the the the unicorns and the
fairy dust that everything's great and Rainbow's we're all gonna win.
I'm here to tell you I'm worried. Okay, I'm worried.
I'm confident. I feel good right there, we go three
months out, he's confident. You can all like Clay and
his confidence and be mad at me for my worry,
But I kind of want the Trumpster to get out there.
I know it's the summer and no one's doing anything,
(14:51):
but after Labor Day, we got to see a lot
of action from a lot of Republicans out there making
the case about this communist surge and the Democrats. These
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Wisconsin and Minnesota making primary decisions. A week from today
is Florida, and then we're basically going to be nearly
through all of the primary process of who the nominees
are going to be, and we'll be into the midterms.
(16:38):
And a gentleman with the great name of Clay in Cheyenne, Wyoming, Well,
he wants to weigh get way in on our open here. Clay,
what do you.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Think, hey, Clay? Well, I totally agree with you. I
think the Democrats not only lack leadership, they lack a
clear platform. It seems very horrifically fractured to me. And
I think that party is in disarray more than most realized.
And I think this is just a very unconventional set
of circumstances as we go into this midterm. And I
really like our chances. I think Bucks takes a little
(17:09):
bill conventional for me, but I'm like you, I feel good.
I think we're going to surprise people this November. And
by the way, you're more than welcome to accept my
invitation to the Convention of Clay's. It meets every October
in Washington, DC.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I don't know anything about this. How many people named
Clay show up for the Clay Convention.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I haven't been in a number of years, but last
time I was there, it was definitely more than a thousand.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I didn't know that. Wow, that's interesting. I've never had
Everyone named Clay is way too optimistic about the Republican's chances.
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That is an interesting phenomenon that I have noticed. I
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Glenn Eric from Glen Falls, New York.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Hit it, Hey, Clayton Buck, I got one for you
guys to figure out for me. When they put the
word democratic in front of socialists, it's supposed to be
something different. But when they put the word trance in
front of woman, we're supposed to believe it's the same
thing as just a woman.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
A very very fair point. And by the way, as
I keep telling people that don't fall into these definitional games,
they do this because first of all, it's like a
pseudo intellectualism that people on the left have, you know,
when they're like, oh, I'm sure, do you really know
about Stalin? I know that he killed millions of people
and he was really bad. Like, yes, I do actually
(20:54):
know about stalf you know, not talking about just me.
Actually I know more than most leftist about Stalin. But
the point is, in general, you can just know the
things you have to know and don't let them challenge
you with minutia or the specificity of things.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
How many of the people do you think that are
actually called in the DSA Clay know Stalin's name in
the underground? How many even know that Stalin isn't really
his name, and that it was like a nom de
guerre and it means man of steel. How many would
even they don't know any of this stuff. They know nothing,
but though through the we're democratic socialists. How many do
you think know that the Bolsheviks, the original communists, called
(21:28):
for elections. They were all about elections the first time,
so that they could then get a mandate to tell
everybody else that we're in charge, and now we line
you up against the wall. Right, so democratic socialists played
the Bolsheviks were democratic socialists until they weren't. Yeah, and look,
a lot of people who are listening to us from
Latin America have experienced in real time the creep of
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socialism into totalitarianism. No one knows what you just laid out.
The average historical knowledge of American history in this cory
is virtually nonexistent, much less what people know about the
history of politics in the world. Sadly, how many people
even know about the Berlin Wall falling. I mean, I
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think a huge percentage of the kids. And I'm defining
kids broadly to include a lot of people in their twenties,
because that's a big part of his coalition. A lot
of people who voted for Mom Donnie in New York
City aren't even familiar with the Cold War or the
era of the Berlin Wall coming down and Eastern Europe
becoming free. It's out of their worldview. Heck, it's been
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twenty five years since nine to eleven. A lot of
kids don't even know about nine to eleven. And so
this is why historical literacy, illiteracy and historical literacy is
so important, because we don't teach basic history anymore. They've
turned history into sociology, so it's really just a study
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of different oppressed class than how they interact. And the
actual baseline knowledge of history, both world and American, I
think has never been lower. And I think that's intentional,
because if you have the memory of a goldfish, you're
easier to manipulate. That's the reality. I mean, it's scary
(23:18):
how few people know basic history. And then if you
combine it buck with how few people know basic history
and how few people know basic financial literacy, how many
what percentage of people know how a mortgage works. What
percentage of people can accurately tell you what the impact
(23:38):
of twenty percent interest on a credit card is over
multiple years. People have no clue, So you get people
upset because they're in financially dire straits because they don't
know any better. Buck, and then they don't have historical knowledge.
So you just convince them, hey, you have to support
(23:59):
something new. They're not selling socialism, they're selling new. Oh,
this is new, even though it's failed in the past.
A lot of people look around, and especially this is
pertinent Buck, so many people. This is where I'm somewhat
sympathetic for many of these people. They went to high end,
expensive colleges, They got advanced degrees, masters in different fields.
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They are, by objective measures of testing, for instance, very smart,
but they have no actual common sense knowledge and the
market isn't valuing the education that they have. So if
you're living in New York City right now, mom and
dad are probably helping to pay your fifty five hundred
dollars a month one bedroom apartment rent that's the average
(24:47):
rent in Manhattan. Now you are making fifty thousand dollars
a year, which sounds like a lot of money. But
as you know, having lived in Manhattan, that's not even
enough to pay for a one bedroom apartment in Manhattan,
even your ten thousand dollars short on that salary by itself,
even as a young person starting there. So you're piling
multiple roommates in, you're borrowing from mom or dad, and
(25:10):
you're looking around and saying, why is capitalism not valuing
what I'm trying to sell. It must be because capitalism
isn't working. I'm a socialist. Now, do you know what
the poverty the poverty threshold is for benefits and things
in New York City for a single adult, it's about
fifty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Now, you might say that's crazy because the average household
income in America is fifty five sixty What is it
right now? I've got to check. It's been going up
in recent years. Yeah, it's more than that now, because
household is defined oftentimes as two people working together, right,
but individually fifty eighty three, So it's eighty three. Average
(25:53):
household income is eighty three average. I have to look
at average per capita income because that you're talking about
a single individual. To your point of play of man
and woman working both. But yes, my my point being
in New York City because of the cost of living,
if you're a single person making fifty thousand dollars a year,
you're in poverty basically, or you're right on the red
line of poverty. Which if you if you're a single
(26:15):
guy and lived making fifty k a year and you
live in Tulsa, you're doing well. You know, you live
a nice place, probably have a nice car. You're paying
you know, paying for on the uh you know, on
the driveway. So it's very different. It's basically twice as
much to live in New York as it is to
live in most other metros. It's like double the so
if you make one hundred grand in New York City.
(26:36):
Also true in the Bay Area, but that's because of
all the AI and the Google and tech money. It's
like that's a whole other universe. But Clay, it's it's
really uh. In Miami actually now is as expensive as
New York City. Unfortunately, so well, and again I think
what this comes to is you are frustrated, and if
you are frustrated, you're able to be manipulated because you
(26:59):
have no historical knowledge. You don't have a lot of
financial literacy, so you're not able to keep in front
of your bills, and so you're looking around and saying,
if this isn't working for me, it has to be
that there is something that is broken in American capitalism,
and so that is who they are feeding on. And
(27:19):
they aren't really selling them socialism. They're just selling them
it isn't capitalism is not working for you. Let's try
this new thing, which as we know, is not actually new.
But if you're twenty five and you were born the
year that nine to eleven happened, socialism and communism can
seem like something that might value you more. So it's
(27:43):
illiteracy from a historical perspective coupled with frustration. Voila mom,
Donnie saying I'll make your groceries thirty percent cheaper and
I'll ensure that your rent isn't going to go up.
And if you want to get a census to how
much the dishonest Oh, it's not socialism, really, it's just
going to make your life easier and less expensive. Line
(28:04):
is Gavin Newsom is getting in on this game. It's
criticizing capitalism. It's cut sixteen play it capitalism as we
know it not gonna work. As we know it, it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Twenty stays still pay seven dollars twenty five cents a
minimum wage.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
We printed that first tree in her I was in
college democratic yesterday. It was interesting. Two of them said
that of all things they said, it was they said
that there's physiological for them.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Wasn't even a little.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
These are young people that felt something about that, and
the way it was interesting.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
One young lady said she she described it so vividly
in those terms.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
It was alarming to me because she just feels like
she's locked out of all of that. And so again,
I think our party needs to call that out concentration.
We need to call that out capitalism as we know
it's not gonna work. Gavin Newsom, what's you worth? Twenty
million dollars? Doesn't own a vineyard?
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
He used to at least yeah, he had a wine company,
a liquor store. In many different respects. I mean, he's
worth a ton of money. But again, this is this
is somebody who's become very rich in the capitalist system
and then turns around and instead of one being humble
and grateful for it, that's way too much to ask
it's Gavin Newsom, but to encouraging other people to also,
(29:22):
you know, to to experience and to chase after the
benefits of a capitalist system. He's playing the emotions game,
that's right, playing to their emotions, and it's it's working.
And this is why yesterday we were saying that aoc
in the way that she's able to speak authentically to
(29:43):
the audience even while selling something that is awful. And actually,
this is the other important thing, Buck actually is going
to make things worse. Right, All of the processes that
are being put in place by Mom Donnie are likely
to make the average New Yorker's life worse than it
(30:03):
would have been if they had never ever embraced it
at all. But they feel like they're doing something, and
that is who Mom Donnie is taking advantage of. The
kids call it the vibes. The vibe and you even
have politicians now who will use this phraseology because they
know that it appeals to the under thirty crowd, which
(30:25):
is a substantive. They don't vote in high numbers, but
there's a lot of them, and it's a vote that
could be very useful for Democrats in these places and
Clay here real quick, before we here's Francesca Hong sounding
just like Avenuwsom on the We're not going to turn
into communism. Just look at our minimum wage laws. Play fifteen.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
This is you fear that democratic socialism could turn into communism?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
What would you want them to know?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
No, this is a state where we still have a
two thirty three tip minimum wage and seven twenty five
minimum wage. I think it's going to be pretty hard
to turn that into socialism soon, Clay.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I just want to note they both Gavin Newson Man
Francisca Hong talking minimum wage right away. This is like
when you say, hey, I think communism is bad and
people say, oh, do you like the forty hour work week?
Do you like weekends? Yeah? That's really That's really what
we're talking about here, Clay. Minimum wage is one of
these things. And it's true, by the way, even on
the right, it never works the way that people who
(31:23):
want it think it works. There are always trade offs,
but it sounds good and people like it, so it wins.
I will point out Francesca Hong, who is on the
ballot today and is going to become probably the Democrat nominee.
As you said, she's not being endorsed by people on
the left. I think it's because they don't respect her intelligence.
I really do. I mean, when she gets these questions,
(31:45):
she's incapable of answering them. You may not like Mom
Donnie's answers, you may not like abdual Lsayed's answers, you
might not even like AOC's answers. But they have a
just a smoothness in their glib answer and grin dynamic
that she does not have that allows them to get
(32:07):
past some of these questions. Does that make sense? They
can they can confidently parrot the mandatory phrases. That's right.
She can't do it for whatever reason. And I think
that they know that she's going to get exposed on
a level that even AOC can't get exposed on. Look, unfortunately,
we have a huge audience in Spokane. There have been
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We have got a special guest, Speed Sexton sitting right now,
got a ball in his hand. Can now say ball
has been barking like a dog. Yes, putting on quite
the show. He likes ball. Mama, data and ball are
the favorite words. And he likes rook a trio at Ginger,
Spice the dog and who is under my feet right now?
(34:42):
So she may be barking in the second here. But
speed we call this the speed cam and Clay our
YouTubers demanded, They said, we need a speed appearance. So
I said, the speed cam will get fired up, and
here we are. Can you can you wave? Can you
wave for everybody? Buddy? You want to wave? It wants
to play ball, which is you know what. I don't
blame you. Uh And there's a lot of guys and
(35:04):
gals out there right now that wouldn't mind being able
to uh to play ball too instead of being at work.
Is definitely fun. I think we've got a future major
leaguer on our hands here. The problem, now, by the way,
is when he leaves the studio, he gets upset. He
likes he likes this room. There's a lot of fun
lights and things, and so when when he goes out
(35:25):
of there, he's like, excuse me, this was my segment.
So you know we're gonna have to get something a
rider in his contract. All right, we gotta give by
the way loaded lines. But I wanted to hit this
because I thought it was entertaining. This was in the talkbacks, Buck,
someone is afraid that you are a little bit too
(35:49):
enamored of AOC And can we play that cut from
the talkback Boulder Dash Clay.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
You got to get Buck under control, man, Like he
is really into AOC.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I'm starting to think he's gonna like go out and
like start campaigning for it.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Man, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
She looks like a donkey Buck, I don't know. Man.
You think Anne Hathaway is ugly but she looks good, Like,
come on, dude, get it together.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Brother. I love you, but your take is horrible. Politics
and acting have different beauty standards. That's point one point two.
Nobody thinks AOC is ugly. Nobody thinks she's ugly. You
could say she's not like gorgeous. Fine, but for a politician,
play top tier, don't lie. She is the best booking
(36:34):
politician in America on the Democrat side, I don't think
there's any argument for that, certainly for a female. Davin
Newson's not bad looking either,
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