March 10, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show centers on fast‑moving developments in the escalating U.S. military campaign against Iran. Clay and Buck open the hour analyzing remarks from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, who describes increasingly intense American airstrikes and the destruction of Iranian missile sites, naval assets, and military infrastructure. President Donald Trump’s comments from an event in Doral underscore the scope of the operation, with Trump highlighting that U.S. forces have struck thousands of targets and sunk dozens of Iranian naval vessels. This leads the hosts into a broader conversation about the endgame in Iran—specifically the uncertainty over who might take power if the regime collapses and whether the U.S. or Israel has viable contacts who could help stabilize the country. Questions arise about whether any Iranian political figures could work with the West, even discreetly, and whether the U.S. intends to pursue regime change or simply force strategic concessions.
The discussion shifts toward the economic consequences of the conflict, particularly the dramatic price fluctuations in global oil markets. Clay notes that oil surged to $120 per barrel before rapidly falling to around $85, emphasizing how the United States’ role as the world’s top oil and gas producer provides a buffer against global shocks. The hosts contrast this national strength with states like California, which has severely limited oil and gas production despite having abundant resources. They argue that nationwide energy independence—driven largely by fracking—has dramatically reduced the geopolitical leverage of petro‑dictator states like Iran, Russia, and Venezuela.
From geopolitics, Clay and Buck pivot to domestic political storylines, including early maneuvering in the 2028 Republican presidential field. Marco Rubio’s rise in betting markets and Vice President J.D. Vance’s shifting position spark speculation about what American politics will look like once Trump eventually leaves the stage. The hosts humorously imagine Trump launching an enormously successful podcast after his presidency, cementing his place at the center of public attention.
Congressman Jim Jordan joins the program for an extended segment covering several major issues. He details the ongoing Minnesota Feeding Our Future fraud scandal, accusing state officials of misleading the public and protecting political allies. Jordan also discusses the Save America Act, expressing disbelief that Democrats oppose strict voter‑ID and citizenship requirements for federal elections, which he argues are overwhelmingly popular with voters. The conversation expands to long TSA lines and the refusal by Democrats to fund the Department of Homeland Security during an active military conflict, which Jordan frames as reckless and ideological. He also weighs in on the Iran campaign, echoing Trump’s confidence and praising the military’s swift dismantling of Iranian offensive capabilities. Toward the end of the segment, Jordan addresses the chaos surrounding name‑image‑likeness (NIL) rules in college sports and expresses optimism that Congress can pass the SCORE Act to bring legal stability to college athletics.
The hour concludes with listener calls. One listener raises concerns about potential Iranian sleeper cells in the United States, prompting Buck to distinguish between ideologically motivated lone actors and more sophisticated, trained infiltrators whose numbers and intentions are unknown. Another caller comments on the sharp drop in global oil prices, comparing the movement to previous major geopolitical shocks. Throughout the hour, Clay and Buck frame the unfolding Iran conflict, shifting oil markets, domestic political battles, and structural challenges in college sports as interconnected issues illustrating the stakes of America’s current political moment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. Scrapping because we are taking off.
We have a lot to discuss with you today. Ohio
Congressman Jim Jordan's going to be joining us bottom of
this hour. Michael Wattley, former rn C chair and North
Carolina Senate Canada, joining in the second hour along with
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our friend Shannon Breen, chief legal correspondent at Fox News.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
She's got a new book out.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
We'll be talking to those fine folks, and we will
also be breaking down all of the latest news and
analysis and important goings on for all of you. Big
story still, big guest story, I should say, the ongoing
air strikes against the Iranian regime. Also some jitters people
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are having around the price of oil.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So we're going to address all of this.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Here is Secretary of War Hegseath at a press conference
this morning, promising everyone that we're just getting warmed up
with all this stuff. It's going to get even more intense.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Play three today will be yet again our most intense
day of strikes inside Iran. The most fighters, the most bombers,
the most strikes, intelligence, more refined and better than ever,
So that's on one hand. On the other hand, the
last twenty four hours have seen Iran fire the lowest
number of missiles they've been capable of firing yet, just
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the bifurcation, just the trend lines that we talked about
on our first briefing. You see, this is not two
thousand and three. This is not endless nation building under
those types of quagmires we saw under Bush or Obama.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It's not even close.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Our generation of soldier will not let that happen again,
and nor will this president, who very clearly ran against
those kinds of never ending, nebulously scoped missions.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So he is saying that everything is going according to plan.
We are essentially kicking the Iranian military's ass with one
arm behind our back from the sky entirely, and this
is going to continue and get more intense as the
days go on, that we will not relent. Trump last
night speaking at Doral, he was down here in the
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Miami area near where I am. Here, he is this
has cut six. He's saying, look, we are making strides
toward achieving what we need to in Iran.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Play six.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
We're achieving major strides toward completing our military objective, and
some people could say they're pretty well complete. We've wiped
every single force in Iran out very completely. Most of
our in's naval power has been sunk. It's on the
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bottom of the sea. It's almost fifty ships. He's just
notified it's fifty one ships. I didn't know they had that.
Many didn't last very long. And these are fighting vessels.
They're meant to fight, but they're not meant to fight again.
We've struck over five thousand targets today, some of them
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very major targets, and we've left some of the most
important targets for later in case we need to do it.
If we hit them, it's going to take many years
for them to be rebuilt, having to do with electricity
production and many other things. So we're not looking to
do that if we don't have to clay.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It seems like the strategy is bomb them back into
the Stone Age, so to speak, and wait until they
cry uncle and come up with I don't know what.
That's the big question that I have. What is supposed
to emerge here unconditional surrender, but contingent on what even
if they were to say it, What are the next
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steps supposed to be. This gets to who's going to
run this country? Because Pete Hackseeth is saying very clearly
and Trump has said the same, We're not going to
be sending twenty year olds from Kansas and Maine and
Washington State, et cetera, and Texas and every where to
walk the streets of Isfahan, Kerman, Shah Tehran and Tabreeze
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not happening.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
I think we're in a balancing act where who is
the person we want to be in charge in Iran?
That is the one thing that we really haven't gotten
any indication of now. Simultaneously, I understand that why that
is because as soon as the United States acquiesces or
acknowledges that Iran has got a leader we want to
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work with, that definitely puts political pressure on the individuals
in Iran too. Do you remember Buck, how the Delci
Rodriguez played out. Delci Rodriguez And the reason why I
point to this is I think it's the best analogy,
although obviously Venezuela and Iran are very different. But when
Delci Rodriguez came into power, she said a lot of
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tough talking things about the United States and many of
our United States leaders just kind of said, Okay, she's
got to say that for political viability in side of Venezuela.
But meanwhile, we were having back channel conversations with her,
and she was basically letting us know what she had
to do. Are we having back channel conversations with anyone
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in Iran that could rise to a level of power.
That's a good question, right, Who are the people that
Israel may have been working with to help get all
of these targets that we were able to focus on
and take out so quickly. All of those questions I
think are still incumbent upon us to resolve. But I
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do think at a minimum, the message that we sent,
even if we pulled out tomorrow buck, even if we said, hey,
mission accomplished, we are out and we are going back
and we're not going to continue to bomb Iran, we
have sent the message, and I think it's a very
significant one, not only to Iran but to everybody around
the world that we can basically take out any world
leader that we want to, and so whomever comes to
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power in Iran, we can wipe that person out too.
They know it, we know the world knows it. And
so the question that I have is to what extent
is there someone that we are amenable to that could
be rising to power, and what is the time frame
under which that could occur. I think that that's the
question that is still out there right now. I think
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the argument that we were going to lose tons of
soldiers is out the window. I think the argument in
the wake of the last day. But this is one
of the craziest things I've ever said. When we came
on the air yesterday, everybody was in a full fledged
panic over the price of oil and gas. It hit
one hundred and twenty dollars on the market on Sunday
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before we came on the air, and they open overseas
it's now eighty five dollars. Now that's significant, but it's
not that much of a bump, and the straight of
horor moves that appears the oil is actually coming through
fairly comfortably. We just haven't seen the spike that everybody
said we were going to see. And I think we
have the ability to egg is it this escalation whenever
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we want.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
And we have.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Effectively neutered Iran for decades to come in terms of
the they have no air force, they have no navy,
they have no missiles. Largely their ability to even send
off these drones has been significantly curtailed. I just I
look around Buck and say, we're at the who is
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going to lead a ron stage of this military of
this military endeavor.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
The whole IRGC, which we talked about a bit yesterday,
is set up to be a decentralized and survivable security
apparatus for a situation like this.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
This is the challenge that we have.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
So they've got the guns, they've got comps set up,
they have down to a very localized level terrain knowledge
human terrain knowledge. Basically, anyone who wants out of their
home to start a protest in the street liable to
just get shot by these either besiege or IRGC units.
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So what do we do about that? This is where
things get a little open ended. I'm not really sure
what the plan is on this. We can keep blowing
their military equipment out of the sky, but ultimately whoever
has the most manpower with guns on the ground willing
to fight, is likely to be able to stay in control.
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It's also, by the way, big lesson about the Second Amendment,
how important the Second Amendment is and armed citizenry right
because they don't have that the people with the guns
of the government.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
That's it. Very few people in Iran are going to.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Be able to get out there and get into a
gun battle with members of the Iraniance Security forces. So
with all that, Clay, I think that the military side
of this is showing incredible. Everything that Hegseeth and Trump
have been said about this, it's true. It's been an
amazing display of US military capability.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Does this go.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Beyond this month, I don't think so. Does this end
with US troops on the ground, I don't think so.
Does this end with a new government in Iran, I
don't think so. That's where I come down on this one. Here,
by the way, here's Hegsat saying this morning has cut
for Clay just saying they're going to take this to
the end until the enemy says we give up.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Play for destroy their missile stockpiles, their missile launchers and
their defense industrial base missiles and their ability to make them,
two destroy their navy, and three permanently deny Iran nuclear
weapons forever. It's a laser focused maximum authority mission delivered
with overwhelming and unrelenting precision, no hesitation, no half measures.
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As President Trump declared yesterday, we're crushing the enemy in
an overwhelming display of technical skill and military force. We
will not relent until the enemy is totally and decisively defeated.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
But we do so.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
We do so on our timeline and at.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Our choosing.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Sounds good. I hope we get there.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
How many people do you think we in general?
Speaker 5 (10:16):
How many people do you think we have named that
we would be okay with being leaders of Iran?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I don't think we even have a list of I
don't think we even have a list of people that
we think would be We're hoping they emerge, That's my guess. Obviously,
I've been out of the game a while. Maybe they've
got someone just ready to go, but I would highly
doubt it.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Do you think Israel does because it seems like they
have basic full optics. It feels like on some level
of inside of Iran and some.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Of those things, I think finding in Iranian who doesn't
hate Israel, who has any political juice whatsoever inside of
Iran is I'm not sure it's possible.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
It's very I wonder whether you could publicly hate Israel
but privately have a relationship with Israel. I mean, maybe,
like maybe sure that that would be My hope is
that we could find a solution in that way. And
I think the long run here, look, if you want
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to tie Venezuela and Iran together, I think the long
run is we should have more oil and gas stability
going forward when this situation is ended than we did
before and when you combine it with the United States
ability to produce a ton of oil and gas. You
know this, but because this was a conversation that when
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you started working at the CIA would have been a
big one. The Middle Eastern countries which basically had the
ability to curtail oil and gas shipments. It led to
a lot of petro dictator states. It feels to me
like the petro dictator state power is altering in a
way that is favorable to the United States in many respects.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
This is a reminder where any of you who knows
somebody who works for big oil in this country, works
for a natural gas company and oil exploration company, you
should give them a high five. Because America is the
true global energy producer superpower, which has enormous, enormous geopolitical
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advantages for us in dealing with all of this. We
got so much of that stuff that we're selling it
all over the world. But we know we've got secure supply,
and we know that we are the single most important
energy producing power on the planet. That's how we come
at this one hundred percent. That is the best decision
we have made in a long time. And by the way,
the states that have rejected that, if you're listening to
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us in California right now, you may well be paying
well over five dollars a gallon because California, which still
to my knowledge, Buck and I know we got a
lot of oil and gas, guys and gals out there,
still has a lot of oil and gas right California
has the ability to pump far more even more. Instead
they turned it off affected because of the greenhouse the
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climate change.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Crazy people.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
How many Americans even know this really important trivia.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
And you've got Saudi Arabia, You've got Russia, you know,
you've got some of these countries. You know which country
is the biggest oil producer in the world.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
America?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
It's America that people, No, it does, I mean, it
stuns people. We produce more crude oil than any other country.
We've surpassed Saudi Arabia. We've surpassed, surpassed Russia, and our
oil industry has done this despite all the climate change,
which is a complete waste of time and an absurdity
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that no human beings should ever waste three seconds concerned
about anything else. But our oil industry is one of
our biggest strategic assets as a nation, and yet Democrats
trash them all the time and act like they're killing
all of us. No, actually, you should go thank an
oil man today, or a woman if she happens to
work in the oil industry. You should go say thank
you for what you do, because that's why we can
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go around the world and kick anybody's ass and do
it in a way that is blowing the minds of
our top adversaries and enemies, which, by the way, in.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
The First Gulf War, for those of you who remember that,
fear that they would curtail our ability to get oil
and gas was the impetus to a large extent for
the First Golf War back in nineteen ninety or whatever
it was. It was a totally different world. I'll add
into what you just said, Buck. Do you know what
country they believe in the Western Hemisphere has the largest
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untapped resources of oil and gas. Venezuela well the biggest
proven reserves on the planet. Yeah, so the fact that
we now have the ability basically to also access that
is yet another sign that we are curtailing the power
of the UH of the oil and gas petro dictators
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Speaker 5 (16:21):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Brock Sexton show a little
bit of news to pay attention to. And I know
they have said potentially they are going to run together.
But if you look at the odds markets on who
the twenty twenty eight Republican nominee is going to be,
jd Vance had been a big favorite for some time.
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Marco rubiobuck Amid reports that a lot of donors love
him is now surging to the point where he is
about to pass JD Vance as the favorite to be
the nominee in twenty twenty eight. I know it's a
ways away. I know we have to get through the midterms.
But the day after the midterms, so November eighth, or
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whatever the heck that day is, this year, effectively the
brand new twenty twenty eight presidential campaign will begin. And
one thing to think about Buck is not only Marco
JD and other people who might run.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
What's Trump gonna.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Be like when he's no longer able to be running
for president and potentially no longer the central story of
the political scene.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Probably gonna do a podcast.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I don't think anybody's really asked in the history of podcasts.
Gonna have eleventy billion downloads a day. It will be fantastic.
Some people are saying the best podcast.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
I just I think we've gotten used to Trump as
the focal point of everything. I don't know what it's
gonna be like in twenty twenty seven. Very soon from now.
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Speaker 2 (18:56):
Welcome back into clay In Buck.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
We are joined by congress Jim Jordan of Ohio. Congressman,
it's been a minute. It's good to have you back.
How you doing.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
I'm doing fine.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
How about you? Pretty good?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Actually pretty good? Got a little crazier last night. We're
in a little black out of Miami Beach. This's part
of it. But now the power's back on, so that's nice.
Gets hot here pretty quickly. Yeah, that's a good deal.
So unfortunately it was not an Iranian cyber attack or
anything of the of the like.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
But I was prepared just in case.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
So tell me about what's going on. There's there's a
fraud hearing in Minnesota. You got Wals, you got Ellison,
you're talking. You exposed Walls, as I understand it, exposed him.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
How what went on here?
Speaker 8 (19:39):
Well, he just lied, I mean, and the court did
something I've never seen. The court actually issued a statement
in the press from the court saying, what you have
said about why you restarted this program. So let to say.
What happened is all the whistle blowers and the folks
and the government said, hey, this feeding our Future program
is got all kinds of problems. We don't know what's
going on. All these all these meals going to kids,
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but there are no meals, no kids, and they're just
stuff in their podet. There's all kinds of concerns. So
they shut it down and then a month later they
started back up and the payments resumed, and Wall said
he did it because the court ordered, and the court said,
that's not true. I mean, they just told the cover
what you said is completely false. But I believe he
did it for the politics. I mean they were the
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Somali community is a large voting block. And we had
this statement from a Somali American who worked in Attorney
General Ellison, the Attorney General there worked in his office
as a front investigator, and said the reason they didn't
go after these folks like they should have is they
were concerned about the voting block that was there for Democrats.
And so yeah, this was they lied about it, and
(20:44):
they they fostered it and allowed it to happen for
political reasons. And I think that are now becoming crystal clear.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
When you look. So it was good to see you Friday, Congress.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
And Jim Jordan Buck, by the way, I saw tweeted
last night you have to keep tabs on this too,
that he's working on one hundred and ten mile an
hour serve. I don't know which side of that you
want to.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
Uh, he's doing sprints, He's doing everything's training hard.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
You know the Rocky Montage.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Rocky's got nothing on middle aged Bucks.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
It's rare that I see something that everybody agrees with
in America that Congress can't pass. And Buck talked about
this yesterday. Every day we hear about the Save Act
and Save America, Save America.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Trump is very specific, it is the Save America Act.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
What is what is the latest on this? And uh?
And do you have any optimism at all? I know
a lot of the hang up is on the Senate side,
but it's crazy to me, this can't get passed.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
No, it's in the craziest right word, you know, less
so many positions the left has. It makes absolutely no sense.
It's completely crazy that you wouldn't want just citizens to vote,
You wouldn't want them to sho an ID because you
have to shown ID for everything. And we got countless
examples from Mom Donnie in the snow Sobs example on
our go. So look, this is in the United States Senate.
Let's have the debate. You know Reagan used to talk
(22:04):
about in politics, you got to paint with big, bold
color so everyone understands what's at stake and a debate
in the Senate where you bring this bill up, you
have the debate, you talk about it, You make the
Democrats look like the fools that they are for embracing
the opposite position of what is everyone knows there's common sense,
what like ninety percent of the country agrees with. You have
the debate and then call the question that that's the
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only way you can see what's going on and that's
what needs to happen. And of course I think I
think Senator Film Leadersion will do that. But the center
I think they get after that, the better it is
for the country, and the people of this great nation
will see one party is for this ridiculous position. The
Republican Party is for common sense. And it's not just
this year, it's countless others.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
So you're not thinking that this is going to get
through or rather you wouldn't even support Congressman if I
know this would be on the Senate side. But the
Senate getting rid of the filibuster for this specific piece
of legislation. This is really to make the point to
the American people in a midterm election year that Democrats
don't want secure elections. I mean, is that the biggest
(23:10):
takeaway from the Save America Act.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
Well, I hope it passes. And frankly, this idea of
this talking filibuster where you really have to go to
the floor and it's basically, you know, mister Smith goes
to Washington like it used to be. I mean, remember
the Democrats used to use this way back when, back
in the fifties and sixties when they were stopping good legislation.
They had to go talk and talk forever to stop it.
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And it was actually then the racist Democrats who were
stopping the Voting Rights Act and all the good things
that were the civil rights issues that were happening, they
would use that technique. So I'm all for them, you know,
happen to do that. But in the end, you've got
to call the question at some point too, and you
got to show the country this is what's at stake.
This is where one party is crazy position, this is
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where the Republicans are. I mean, I think this election,
we were just talking about this with some colleagues. I
think the selection is real crazy, are real, real, straightforward.
They're crazy. We're not. And you can go issue by
issue and show that it's crazy to defund the police.
It's crazy to abolish ize. It's crazy to say mention
you compete against women in sports. It's crazy to shut
down the government for forty three days. It's crazy to
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say you shouldn't have to show an ID to vote,
you shouldn't have to be a citizen, you can just
go every thinking issue. And it's like their position is crazy.
And the President putted this out so well in the
State of the Union, when they wouldn't stand for something
that was just so common sense.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
A ton of people are traveling traveling right now, Congressman,
because it is spring break season, a lot of kids,
a lot of grandkids making trips, and some of the
lines that you're seeing. To build on what you just said,
I mean, we're talking about three four hour lines at
different locations just to get through airport security. I know
what Ron's going on. You can give us your take
(24:51):
on Iran two. But when people start seeing in their
day to day life in competence from government, it makes
them angry. And I can only imagine. I know a
lot of people out there listening to us right now
have found themselves in long tsa lines at a time
of war. It seems beyond absurd to me that Democrats
won't pay the SA agents and get everything back fully open.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
No again, just one another example. Their position is abolish
ice or not, you know, do some of the crazy
things they want to do. We're going to shut down
the Department of Homeland Security, and as you point out,
down people are starting to have real implications, real consequences
for this ridiculous action that the Democrats have taken. And
(25:34):
never forget when they attack guys. Understand what happened in
Minneapolis with mister Pretty and miss Good. We're tragic, but
understand what I say to jimping up against They've been tracked,
they've been docks, they've been stit on, they've been sworn at,
they've been screened at. They've had death threats to themselves,
to their families, they've been attacked physically, you name it.
It's happened to them all because of the radical left.
(25:57):
And now they're taking this position unless you change all
that make we're not gonna we're not going to fund
the Department of Homeland Security at a time when we're
in this armed conflict with with Iran. Makes again no sense.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
So tell me about this conflict with around as you
see it, We've played some soundbites from the President last
last evening at Durral. We've played Pete Hagsath Secretary war
this morning. They seem both very pleased with the progress
so far and very confident in the mission. We hear
from a lot of Trump supporters who are cautious in
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their assessment of this. They're concerned in their assessment of this.
Where do you come down on this, Congressman.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
No, I mean I agree with the President, and you know,
God bless our military and what they've been able to
accomplish in this short, short period of time. I do
think you know the concern is not the same here.
This is this is this President is not gonna, I believe,
get America locked into something like we had with our rack,
which was all years and years and all the money
(27:03):
that was spent there. So we all know that I
ran to the largest state sponsored terrorism. We know that
taking out and stopping these guys from getting nuclear capability
building on Midnight Hammer from last year's taking out their
missile launch sites and their missiles so they can't continue
to pursue this, this nuclear capability that they're after. That
is good for us, That is good for our best
friend Israel. That is good for the world, that is
(27:24):
good for the Iranian people in the end. So, and
they've been at this, this this regime for what forty
seven almost almost fifty years, where they have killed Americans,
killed Israeli has killed all kinds of other people around
the world and killed a number, huge number of their
own citizens. So I think this is good. And look,
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we hope it's We hope it doesn't last real long.
The President has said that, and this president makes decisions
that are in the best interest of the country. We've
seen it time and time again. And this president, more
than any president I've ever known, does what he said
he would do. And he told us he was not
going to let this nation, this this you know, terrorist
sponsoring nation get nuclear capability is found and determined to
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make sure that that doesn't happen.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
We're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
I saw you Friday afternoon at the White House for
the NIL event. How optimistic are you that, in addition
to solving all the other things going on right now, uh,
that Congress is going to be able to under President Trump,
who's super fired up about this issue, fix college athletics.
Speaker 8 (28:30):
Well, I needs fix, and the President is determined, like
is in so many other important issues. Uh you saw that,
Like like I did on Tray afternoon, I think we
can get the step one is to get a ball
in play, use personality with this we got. We got
to pass the Score Act because at a minimum we
have to do some kind of any trust relief for
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the governing institution for college sports. Every major professional sports
league has has specific relief among anti trust law. Uh
based has it explicitly other sports, it's implied and they
have real relief. You have to do the same here
or it's just going to be more court cases that
are going to determine all the rules for how college
sports operates, and we're going to continue to have this mess.
(29:11):
So that at a minimum has to happen. There are
other good things in that legislation that I do think.
I wanted to pass it last year during football season.
Hopefully now we can get it done before the Final four,
which is coming quick, let's hope. So. But I do
think the Score Act is ready to go. I think
there are a few people on our side who are
opposed to it are now going to be willing to
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vote forward. So we get that thing moving and then
we'll go from there and the President, of course, is
going to weigh in all all throughout the process.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Congress and Jim Jordan always appreciate you coming to hang
out with us, Sir, Thank.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
You you bed guys, Thanks for very good work. Take care.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
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Speaker 5 (31:00):
Welcome back in Play Travis Buck Sexton show. We were talking.
I do think this is a significant story and we'll
get to a couple of your calls here in a sec.
Two that deserves more attention. Kevin Newsome and what California
has done. So let's what for a moment super positive.
As we laid out, the United States in the last
(31:21):
ten to twelve years has become the foremost producer of
oil and gas in the entire world. It's an incredible
success story. It's one that should be talked about more,
and it actually has created a situation where Middle Eastern
countries do not have us constantly at their beck and
call over what the price of oil and gas is?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
By the way, and can I just also point out, clay,
this is because of fracking, Yes, which used to be
a dirty word. Remember they made documentaries about how fracking
was going to catch the water on fire and all lie,
all nonsense. Fracking has turned us into an energy superpower.
Thank you, Big Oil.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
This should be a big topic of discussion for many
of you in California as this is wild. As the
United States has become the foremost producer of oil and
gas in the world, California has simultaneously gone in the
exact opposite direction and overwhelmingly begun to restrict oil and
gas production in their state, which is one of the
(32:23):
states that, if oil and gas production were permitted, would
have one of the largest production capabilities in the country. Okay,
what has the result actually led to overwhelming surge in
oil and gas prices for people in California. So I
do think this is so significant the policy direction of
(32:45):
California and other states, but California in particular, because it
has the ability to produce so much oil and gas,
has been directly contradicted by the larger American policy. If
the nation had gone as California has, we would be
totally reliant upon oil and gas producers in the Middle East,
(33:08):
in Russia, in Venezuela in a way that we are not.
You know who is buck China forty percent. I was
reading this morning of China's oil and gas comes through
the Strait of hor moves. They have to bring in
the vast majority of the oil and gas that their
country consumes, based on my reading of this situation, and
that's one reason they've been allies of Venezuela and Iran,
(33:31):
because they've been trying to preserve oil and gas that
they have to bring in in order to fuel their economy.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Well, and they're buying at a cut rate prices because
you can't buy that oil if you're Europe. You can't
buy that oil if you're America, obviously. So the whole
deal is these sanctions busters. If you will, like China
come in and say, oh, we'll buy your Iranian oil
for you know, eighty cents on the dollar or whatever.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Whatever.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
This is.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
What is the has been doing that Trump finally cracked
down on, is taking all the Russian oil and just
sending it back out. But basically laundering Russian oil through
India and taking a profit on top of it. We
got a couple of interesting calls here. I'll start with
Tom in South Carolina. He has a question for you, Buck,
fire away, Tom, all right.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
My question is, and give me a second here, supposed
Iranians have activated the sleeper cells all across the world
into America. My thing is, those people have probably been
here a while, probably like it now, have families and
think that their regime is going to be toppled. So
do you think if they get that text to start
attacking that they just ignore it and want with their life,
thinking that they'd rather live a life in America and
(34:40):
the regime will be gone eventually.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
It totally depends. It's a very good question. It's just
there's so many facets this. It totally depends. I think
a lot. You have people who are ideological fellow travelers
who are essentially Jihattists who just want to lash out
at enemies of the Islamic Revolution, right, I mean this
this lunatic in Texas, for example, in Austin with like
(35:04):
the Iranian leader or you know the mulos.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
On his T shirt.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
There are people like that who I don't think have
gotten If they haven't gotten any KUDS force training, they're
not operatives that have received some level of trade craft.
They're just wackos who want to help Iran. And you know,
we don't know how many of them there are. What
you're asking, I think is more what about Hezbola trained
infiltraders coming across the southern borders setting up here. The
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numbers that we have on those are guesses at best,
and whether they are ideologically committed or not. You know,
you can go and watch there's a great series the
Americans about Russian deep deep cover agents illegals. They actually
call them, not illegal aliens, but illegals. Is what the
Russian KGB. Have you ever seen the Americans play? It
(35:50):
is a fantastic series. It's an a it's an A series,
really really good.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
Yeah, it's been out, I mean what it's probably finished
about five years ago or so now more maybe ten.
It's been a while. Yeah, I watched it back in
the day. It was fantastic. Marv Quickly in and Canada,
what you got for us?
Speaker 10 (36:10):
I just wanted to weigh in on your comments about
oil pricing. Oil pricing last week hitting almost one twenty.
Oil pricing right now at below eighty three dollars a barrel.
It's a thirty percent drop. The last time that we
saw thirty percent drop in oil pricing was when Russia
(36:31):
invaded Ukraine. This kind of dramatic drop. The catalyst for
that is global, incredibly significant global actions that are taking place.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
We will discuss that and more. Oil prices down thirty
five dollars since yesterday.
Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. Scrapping because we are taking off.
We have a lot to discuss with you today. Ohio
Congressman Jim Jordan's going to be joining us bottom of
this hour. Michael Wattley, former rn C chair and North
Carolina Senate Canada, joining in the second hour along with
(00:20):
our friend Shannon Breen, chief legal correspondent at Fox News.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
She's got a new book out.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
We'll be talking to those fine folks, and we will
also be breaking down all of the latest news and
analysis and important goings on for all of you. Big
story still, big guest story, I should say, the ongoing
air strikes against the Iranian regime. Also some jitters people
(00:47):
are having around the price of oil.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So we're going to address all of this.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Here is Secretary of War Hegseath at a press conference
this morning, promising everyone that we're just getting warmed up
with all this stuff. It's going to get even more intense.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Play three today will be yet again our most intense
day of strikes inside Iran. The most fighters, the most bombers,
the most strikes, intelligence, more refined and better than ever,
So that's on one hand. On the other hand, the
last twenty four hours have seen Iran fire the lowest
number of missiles they've been capable of firing yet, just
(01:24):
the bifurcation, just the trend lines that we talked about
on our first briefing. You see, this is not two
thousand and three. This is not endless nation building under
those types of quagmires we saw under Bush or Obama.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It's not even close.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Our generation of soldier will not let that happen again,
and nor will this president, who very clearly ran against
those kinds of never ending, nebulously scoped missions.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So he is saying that everything is going according to plan.
We are essentially kicking the Iranian military's ass with one
arm behind our back from the sky entirely, and this
is going to continue and get more intense as the
days go on, that we will not relent. Trump last
night speaking at Doral, he was down here in the
(02:12):
Miami area near where I am. Here, he is this
has cut six. He's saying, look, we are making strides
toward achieving what we need to in Iran.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Play six.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
We're achieving major strides toward completing our military objective, and
some people could say they're pretty well complete. We've wiped
every single force in Iran out very completely. Most of
our in's naval power has been sunk. It's on the
(02:43):
bottom of the sea. It's almost fifty ships. He's just
notified it's fifty one ships. I didn't know they had that.
Many didn't last very long. And these are fighting vessels.
They're meant to fight, but they're not meant to fight again.
We've struck over five thousand targets today, some of them
(03:05):
very major targets, and we've left some of the most
important targets for later in case we need to do it.
If we hit them, it's going to take many years
for them to be rebuilt, having to do with electricity
production and many other things. So we're not looking to
do that if we don't have to clay.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It seems like the strategy is bomb them back into
the Stone Age, so to speak, and wait until they
cry uncle and come up with I don't know what.
That's the big question that I have. What is supposed
to emerge here unconditional surrender, but contingent on what even
if they were to say it, What are the next
(03:46):
steps supposed to be. This gets to who's going to
run this country? Because Pete Hackseeth is saying very clearly
and Trump has said the same, We're not going to
be sending twenty year olds from Kansas and Maine and
Washington State, et cetera, and Texas and every where to
walk the streets of Isfahan, Kerman, Shah Tehran and Tabreeze
(04:06):
not happening.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
I think we're in a balancing act where who is
the person we want to be in charge in Iran?
That is the one thing that we really haven't gotten
any indication of now. Simultaneously, I understand that why that
is because as soon as the United States acquiesces or
acknowledges that Iran has got a leader we want to
(04:29):
work with, that definitely puts political pressure on the individuals
in Iran too. Do you remember Buck, how the Delci
Rodriguez played out. Delci Rodriguez And the reason why I
point to this is I think it's the best analogy,
although obviously Venezuela and Iran are very different. But when
Delci Rodriguez came into power, she said a lot of
(04:49):
tough talking things about the United States and many of
our United States leaders just kind of said, Okay, she's
got to say that for political viability in side of Venezuela.
But meanwhile, we were having back channel conversations with her,
and she was basically letting us know what she had
to do. Are we having back channel conversations with anyone
(05:10):
in Iran that could rise to a level of power.
That's a good question, right, Who are the people that
Israel may have been working with to help get all
of these targets that we were able to focus on
and take out so quickly. All of those questions I
think are still incumbent upon us to resolve. But I
(05:32):
do think at a minimum, the message that we sent,
even if we pulled out tomorrow buck, even if we said, hey,
mission accomplished, we are out and we are going back
and we're not going to continue to bomb Iran, we
have sent the message, and I think it's a very
significant one, not only to Iran but to everybody around
the world that we can basically take out any world
leader that we want to, and so whomever comes to
(05:55):
power in Iran, we can wipe that person out too.
They know it, we know the world knows it. And
so the question that I have is to what extent
is there someone that we are amenable to that could
be rising to power, and what is the time frame
under which that could occur. I think that that's the
question that is still out there right now. I think
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the argument that we were going to lose tons of
soldiers is out the window. I think the argument in
the wake of the last day. But this is one
of the craziest things I've ever said. When we came
on the air yesterday, everybody was in a full fledged
panic over the price of oil and gas. It hit
one hundred and twenty dollars on the market on Sunday
(06:38):
before we came on the air, and they open overseas
it's now eighty five dollars. Now that's significant, but it's
not that much of a bump, and the straight of
horor moves that appears the oil is actually coming through
fairly comfortably. We just haven't seen the spike that everybody
said we were going to see. And I think we
have the ability to egg is it this escalation whenever
(07:03):
we want.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
And we have.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Effectively neutered Iran for decades to come in terms of
the they have no air force, they have no navy,
they have no missiles. Largely their ability to even send
off these drones has been significantly curtailed. I just I
look around Buck and say, we're at the who is
(07:26):
going to lead a ron stage of this military of
this military endeavor.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
The whole IRGC, which we talked about a bit yesterday,
is set up to be a decentralized and survivable security
apparatus for a situation like this.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
This is the challenge that we have.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
So they've got the guns, they've got comps set up,
they have down to a very localized level terrain knowledge
human terrain knowledge. Basically, anyone who wants out of their
home to start a protest in the street liable to
just get shot by these either besiege or IRGC units.
(08:09):
So what do we do about that? This is where
things get a little open ended. I'm not really sure
what the plan is on this. We can keep blowing
their military equipment out of the sky, but ultimately whoever
has the most manpower with guns on the ground willing
to fight, is likely to be able to stay in control.
(08:31):
It's also, by the way, big lesson about the Second Amendment,
how important the Second Amendment is and armed citizenry right
because they don't have that the people with the guns
of the government.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
That's it. Very few people in Iran are going to.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Be able to get out there and get into a
gun battle with members of the Iraniance Security forces. So
with all that, Clay, I think that the military side
of this is showing incredible. Everything that Hegseeth and Trump
have been said about this, it's true. It's been an
amazing display of US military capability.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Does this go.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Beyond this month, I don't think so. Does this end
with US troops on the ground, I don't think so.
Does this end with a new government in Iran, I
don't think so. That's where I come down on this one. Here,
by the way, here's Hegsat saying this morning has cut
for Clay just saying they're going to take this to
the end until the enemy says we give up.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Play for destroy their missile stockpiles, their missile launchers and
their defense industrial base missiles and their ability to make them,
two destroy their navy, and three permanently deny Iran nuclear
weapons forever. It's a laser focused maximum authority mission delivered
with overwhelming and unrelenting precision, no hesitation, no half measures.
(09:50):
As President Trump declared yesterday, we're crushing the enemy in
an overwhelming display of technical skill and military force. We
will not relent until the enemy is totally and decisively defeated.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
But we do so.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
We do so on our timeline and at.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Our choosing.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Sounds good. I hope we get there.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
How many people do you think we in general?
Speaker 5 (10:16):
How many people do you think we have named that
we would be okay with being leaders of Iran?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I don't think we even have a list of I
don't think we even have a list of people that
we think would be We're hoping they emerge, That's my guess. Obviously,
I've been out of the game a while. Maybe they've
got someone just ready to go, but I would highly
doubt it.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Do you think Israel does because it seems like they
have basic full optics. It feels like on some level
of inside of Iran and some.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Of those things, I think finding in Iranian who doesn't
hate Israel, who has any political juice whatsoever inside of
Iran is I'm not sure it's possible.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
It's very I wonder whether you could publicly hate Israel
but privately have a relationship with Israel. I mean, maybe,
like maybe sure that that would be My hope is
that we could find a solution in that way. And
I think the long run here, look, if you want
(11:13):
to tie Venezuela and Iran together, I think the long
run is we should have more oil and gas stability
going forward when this situation is ended than we did
before and when you combine it with the United States
ability to produce a ton of oil and gas. You
know this, but because this was a conversation that when
(11:34):
you started working at the CIA would have been a
big one. The Middle Eastern countries which basically had the
ability to curtail oil and gas shipments. It led to
a lot of petro dictator states. It feels to me
like the petro dictator state power is altering in a
way that is favorable to the United States in many respects.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
This is a reminder where any of you who knows
somebody who works for big oil in this country, works
for a natural gas company and oil exploration company, you
should give them a high five. Because America is the
true global energy producer superpower, which has enormous, enormous geopolitical
(12:18):
advantages for us in dealing with all of this. We
got so much of that stuff that we're selling it
all over the world. But we know we've got secure supply,
and we know that we are the single most important
energy producing power on the planet. That's how we come
at this one hundred percent. That is the best decision
we have made in a long time. And by the way,
the states that have rejected that, if you're listening to
(12:42):
us in California right now, you may well be paying
well over five dollars a gallon because California, which still
to my knowledge, Buck and I know we got a
lot of oil and gas, guys and gals out there,
still has a lot of oil and gas right California
has the ability to pump far more even more. Instead
they turned it off affected because of the greenhouse the
(13:02):
climate change.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Crazy people.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
How many Americans even know this really important trivia.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
And you've got Saudi Arabia, You've got Russia, you know,
you've got some of these countries. You know which country
is the biggest oil producer in the world.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
America?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
It's America that people, No, it does, I mean, it
stuns people. We produce more crude oil than any other country.
We've surpassed Saudi Arabia. We've surpassed, surpassed Russia, and our
oil industry has done this despite all the climate change,
which is a complete waste of time and an absurdity
(13:38):
that no human beings should ever waste three seconds concerned
about anything else. But our oil industry is one of
our biggest strategic assets as a nation, and yet Democrats
trash them all the time and act like they're killing
all of us. No, actually, you should go thank an
oil man today, or a woman if she happens to
work in the oil industry. You should go say thank
you for what you do, because that's why we can
(14:01):
go around the world and kick anybody's ass and do
it in a way that is blowing the minds of
our top adversaries and enemies, which, by the way, in.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
The First Gulf War, for those of you who remember that,
fear that they would curtail our ability to get oil
and gas was the impetus to a large extent for
the First Golf War back in nineteen ninety or whatever
it was. It was a totally different world. I'll add
into what you just said, Buck. Do you know what
country they believe in the Western Hemisphere has the largest
(14:30):
untapped resources of oil and gas. Venezuela well the biggest
proven reserves on the planet. Yeah, so the fact that
we now have the ability basically to also access that
is yet another sign that we are curtailing the power
of the UH of the oil and gas petro dictators
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Speaker 5 (16:21):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Brock Sexton show a little
bit of news to pay attention to. And I know
they have said potentially they are going to run together.
But if you look at the odds markets on who
the twenty twenty eight Republican nominee is going to be,
jd Vance had been a big favorite for some time.
(16:45):
Marco rubiobuck Amid reports that a lot of donors love
him is now surging to the point where he is
about to pass JD Vance as the favorite to be
the nominee in twenty twenty eight. I know it's a
ways away. I know we have to get through the midterms.
But the day after the midterms, so November eighth, or
(17:08):
whatever the heck that day is, this year, effectively the
brand new twenty twenty eight presidential campaign will begin. And
one thing to think about Buck is not only Marco
JD and other people who might run.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
What's Trump gonna.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Be like when he's no longer able to be running
for president and potentially no longer the central story of
the political scene.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Probably gonna do a podcast.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I don't think anybody's really asked in the history of podcasts.
Gonna have eleventy billion downloads a day. It will be fantastic.
Some people are saying the best podcast.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
I just I think we've gotten used to Trump as
the focal point of everything. I don't know what it's
gonna be like in twenty twenty seven. Very soon from now.
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Speaker 2 (18:56):
Welcome back into clay In Buck.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
We are joined by congress Jim Jordan of Ohio. Congressman,
it's been a minute. It's good to have you back.
How you doing.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
I'm doing fine.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
How about you? Pretty good?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Actually pretty good? Got a little crazier last night. We're
in a little black out of Miami Beach. This's part
of it. But now the power's back on, so that's nice.
Gets hot here pretty quickly. Yeah, that's a good deal.
So unfortunately it was not an Iranian cyber attack or
anything of the of the like.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
But I was prepared just in case.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
So tell me about what's going on. There's there's a
fraud hearing in Minnesota. You got Wals, you got Ellison,
you're talking. You exposed Walls, as I understand it, exposed him.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
How what went on here?
Speaker 8 (19:39):
Well, he just lied, I mean, and the court did
something I've never seen. The court actually issued a statement
in the press from the court saying, what you have
said about why you restarted this program. So let to say.
What happened is all the whistle blowers and the folks
and the government said, hey, this feeding our Future program
is got all kinds of problems. We don't know what's
going on. All these all these meals going to kids,
(20:01):
but there are no meals, no kids, and they're just
stuff in their podet. There's all kinds of concerns. So
they shut it down and then a month later they
started back up and the payments resumed, and Wall said
he did it because the court ordered, and the court said,
that's not true. I mean, they just told the cover
what you said is completely false. But I believe he
did it for the politics. I mean they were the
(20:21):
Somali community is a large voting block. And we had
this statement from a Somali American who worked in Attorney
General Ellison, the Attorney General there worked in his office
as a front investigator, and said the reason they didn't
go after these folks like they should have is they
were concerned about the voting block that was there for Democrats.
And so yeah, this was they lied about it, and
(20:44):
they they fostered it and allowed it to happen for
political reasons. And I think that are now becoming crystal clear.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
When you look. So it was good to see you Friday, Congress.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
And Jim Jordan Buck, by the way, I saw tweeted
last night you have to keep tabs on this too,
that he's working on one hundred and ten mile an
hour serve. I don't know which side of that you
want to.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
Uh, he's doing sprints, He's doing everything's training hard.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
You know the Rocky Montage.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Rocky's got nothing on middle aged Bucks.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
It's rare that I see something that everybody agrees with
in America that Congress can't pass. And Buck talked about
this yesterday. Every day we hear about the Save Act
and Save America, Save America.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Trump is very specific, it is the Save America Act.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
What is what is the latest on this? And uh?
And do you have any optimism at all? I know
a lot of the hang up is on the Senate side,
but it's crazy to me, this can't get passed.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
No, it's in the craziest right word, you know, less
so many positions the left has. It makes absolutely no sense.
It's completely crazy that you wouldn't want just citizens to vote,
You wouldn't want them to sho an ID because you
have to shown ID for everything. And we got countless
examples from Mom Donnie in the snow Sobs example on
our go. So look, this is in the United States Senate.
Let's have the debate. You know Reagan used to talk
(22:04):
about in politics, you got to paint with big, bold
color so everyone understands what's at stake and a debate
in the Senate where you bring this bill up, you
have the debate, you talk about it, You make the
Democrats look like the fools that they are for embracing
the opposite position of what is everyone knows there's common sense,
what like ninety percent of the country agrees with. You have
the debate and then call the question that that's the
(22:27):
only way you can see what's going on and that's
what needs to happen. And of course I think I
think Senator Film Leadersion will do that. But the center
I think they get after that, the better it is
for the country, and the people of this great nation
will see one party is for this ridiculous position. The
Republican Party is for common sense. And it's not just
this year, it's countless others.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
So you're not thinking that this is going to get
through or rather you wouldn't even support Congressman if I
know this would be on the Senate side. But the
Senate getting rid of the filibuster for this specific piece
of legislation. This is really to make the point to
the American people in a midterm election year that Democrats
don't want secure elections. I mean, is that the biggest
(23:10):
takeaway from the Save America Act.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
Well, I hope it passes. And frankly, this idea of
this talking filibuster where you really have to go to
the floor and it's basically, you know, mister Smith goes
to Washington like it used to be. I mean, remember
the Democrats used to use this way back when, back
in the fifties and sixties when they were stopping good legislation.
They had to go talk and talk forever to stop it.
(23:33):
And it was actually then the racist Democrats who were
stopping the Voting Rights Act and all the good things
that were the civil rights issues that were happening, they
would use that technique. So I'm all for them, you know,
happen to do that. But in the end, you've got
to call the question at some point too, and you
got to show the country this is what's at stake.
This is where one party is crazy position, this is
(23:55):
where the Republicans are. I mean, I think this election,
we were just talking about this with some colleagues. I
think the selection is real crazy, are real, real, straightforward.
They're crazy. We're not. And you can go issue by
issue and show that it's crazy to defund the police.
It's crazy to abolish ize. It's crazy to say mention
you compete against women in sports. It's crazy to shut
down the government for forty three days. It's crazy to
(24:16):
say you shouldn't have to show an ID to vote,
you shouldn't have to be a citizen, you can just
go every thinking issue. And it's like their position is crazy.
And the President putted this out so well in the
State of the Union, when they wouldn't stand for something
that was just so common sense.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
A ton of people are traveling traveling right now, Congressman,
because it is spring break season, a lot of kids,
a lot of grandkids making trips, and some of the
lines that you're seeing. To build on what you just said,
I mean, we're talking about three four hour lines at
different locations just to get through airport security. I know
what Ron's going on. You can give us your take
(24:51):
on Iran two. But when people start seeing in their
day to day life in competence from government, it makes
them angry. And I can only imagine. I know a
lot of people out there listening to us right now
have found themselves in long tsa lines at a time
of war. It seems beyond absurd to me that Democrats
won't pay the SA agents and get everything back fully open.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
No again, just one another example. Their position is abolish
ice or not, you know, do some of the crazy
things they want to do. We're going to shut down
the Department of Homeland Security, and as you point out,
down people are starting to have real implications, real consequences
for this ridiculous action that the Democrats have taken. And
(25:34):
never forget when they attack guys. Understand what happened in
Minneapolis with mister Pretty and miss Good. We're tragic, but
understand what I say to jimping up against They've been tracked,
they've been docks, they've been stit on, they've been sworn at,
they've been screened at. They've had death threats to themselves,
to their families, they've been attacked physically, you name it.
It's happened to them all because of the radical left.
(25:57):
And now they're taking this position unless you change all
that make we're not gonna we're not going to fund
the Department of Homeland Security at a time when we're
in this armed conflict with with Iran. Makes again no sense.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
So tell me about this conflict with around as you
see it, We've played some soundbites from the President last
last evening at Durral. We've played Pete Hagsath Secretary war
this morning. They seem both very pleased with the progress
so far and very confident in the mission. We hear
from a lot of Trump supporters who are cautious in
(26:37):
their assessment of this. They're concerned in their assessment of this.
Where do you come down on this, Congressman.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
No, I mean I agree with the President, and you know,
God bless our military and what they've been able to
accomplish in this short, short period of time. I do
think you know the concern is not the same here.
This is this is this President is not gonna, I believe,
get America locked into something like we had with our rack,
which was all years and years and all the money
(27:03):
that was spent there. So we all know that I
ran to the largest state sponsored terrorism. We know that
taking out and stopping these guys from getting nuclear capability
building on Midnight Hammer from last year's taking out their
missile launch sites and their missiles so they can't continue
to pursue this, this nuclear capability that they're after. That
is good for us, That is good for our best
friend Israel. That is good for the world, that is
(27:24):
good for the Iranian people in the end. So, and
they've been at this, this this regime for what forty
seven almost almost fifty years, where they have killed Americans,
killed Israeli has killed all kinds of other people around
the world and killed a number, huge number of their
own citizens. So I think this is good. And look,
(27:45):
we hope it's We hope it doesn't last real long.
The President has said that, and this president makes decisions
that are in the best interest of the country. We've
seen it time and time again. And this president, more
than any president I've ever known, does what he said
he would do. And he told us he was not
going to let this nation, this this you know, terrorist
sponsoring nation get nuclear capability is found and determined to
(28:07):
make sure that that doesn't happen.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
We're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
I saw you Friday afternoon at the White House for
the NIL event. How optimistic are you that, in addition
to solving all the other things going on right now, uh,
that Congress is going to be able to under President Trump,
who's super fired up about this issue, fix college athletics.
Speaker 8 (28:30):
Well, I needs fix, and the President is determined, like
is in so many other important issues. Uh you saw that,
Like like I did on Tray afternoon, I think we
can get the step one is to get a ball
in play, use personality with this we got. We got
to pass the Score Act because at a minimum we
have to do some kind of any trust relief for
(28:50):
the governing institution for college sports. Every major professional sports
league has has specific relief among anti trust law. Uh
based has it explicitly other sports, it's implied and they
have real relief. You have to do the same here
or it's just going to be more court cases that
are going to determine all the rules for how college
sports operates, and we're going to continue to have this mess.
(29:11):
So that at a minimum has to happen. There are
other good things in that legislation that I do think.
I wanted to pass it last year during football season.
Hopefully now we can get it done before the Final four,
which is coming quick, let's hope. So. But I do
think the Score Act is ready to go. I think
there are a few people on our side who are
opposed to it are now going to be willing to
(29:31):
vote forward. So we get that thing moving and then
we'll go from there and the President, of course, is
going to weigh in all all throughout the process.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Congress and Jim Jordan always appreciate you coming to hang
out with us, Sir, Thank.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
You you bed guys, Thanks for very good work. Take care.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
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Welcome back in Play Travis Buck Sexton show. We were talking.
I do think this is a significant story and we'll
get to a couple of your calls here in a sec.
Two that deserves more attention. Kevin Newsome and what California
has done. So let's what for a moment super positive.
As we laid out, the United States in the last
(31:21):
ten to twelve years has become the foremost producer of
oil and gas in the entire world. It's an incredible
success story. It's one that should be talked about more,
and it actually has created a situation where Middle Eastern
countries do not have us constantly at their beck and
call over what the price of oil and gas is?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
By the way, and can I just also point out, clay,
this is because of fracking, Yes, which used to be
a dirty word. Remember they made documentaries about how fracking
was going to catch the water on fire and all lie,
all nonsense. Fracking has turned us into an energy superpower.
Thank you, Big Oil.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
This should be a big topic of discussion for many
of you in California as this is wild. As the
United States has become the foremost producer of oil and
gas in the world, California has simultaneously gone in the
exact opposite direction and overwhelmingly begun to restrict oil and
gas production in their state, which is one of the
(32:23):
states that, if oil and gas production were permitted, would
have one of the largest production capabilities in the country. Okay,
what has the result actually led to overwhelming surge in
oil and gas prices for people in California. So I
do think this is so significant the policy direction of
(32:45):
California and other states, but California in particular, because it
has the ability to produce so much oil and gas,
has been directly contradicted by the larger American policy. If
the nation had gone as California has, we would be
totally reliant upon oil and gas producers in the Middle East,
(33:08):
in Russia, in Venezuela in a way that we are not.
You know who is buck China forty percent. I was
reading this morning of China's oil and gas comes through
the Strait of hor moves. They have to bring in
the vast majority of the oil and gas that their
country consumes, based on my reading of this situation, and
that's one reason they've been allies of Venezuela and Iran,
(33:31):
because they've been trying to preserve oil and gas that
they have to bring in in order to fuel their economy.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Well, and they're buying at a cut rate prices because
you can't buy that oil if you're Europe. You can't
buy that oil if you're America, obviously. So the whole
deal is these sanctions busters. If you will, like China
come in and say, oh, we'll buy your Iranian oil
for you know, eighty cents on the dollar or whatever.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Whatever.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
This is.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
What is the has been doing that Trump finally cracked
down on, is taking all the Russian oil and just
sending it back out. But basically laundering Russian oil through
India and taking a profit on top of it. We
got a couple of interesting calls here. I'll start with
Tom in South Carolina. He has a question for you, Buck,
fire away, Tom, all right.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
My question is, and give me a second here, supposed
Iranians have activated the sleeper cells all across the world
into America. My thing is, those people have probably been
here a while, probably like it now, have families and
think that their regime is going to be toppled. So
do you think if they get that text to start
attacking that they just ignore it and want with their life,
thinking that they'd rather live a life in America and
(34:40):
the regime will be gone eventually.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
It totally depends. It's a very good question. It's just
there's so many facets this. It totally depends. I think
a lot. You have people who are ideological fellow travelers
who are essentially Jihattists who just want to lash out
at enemies of the Islamic Revolution, right, I mean this
this lunatic in Texas, for example, in Austin with like
(35:04):
the Iranian leader or you know the mulos.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
On his T shirt.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
There are people like that who I don't think have
gotten If they haven't gotten any KUDS force training, they're
not operatives that have received some level of trade craft.
They're just wackos who want to help Iran. And you know,
we don't know how many of them there are. What
you're asking, I think is more what about Hezbola trained
infiltraders coming across the southern borders setting up here. The
(35:29):
numbers that we have on those are guesses at best,
and whether they are ideologically committed or not. You know,
you can go and watch there's a great series the
Americans about Russian deep deep cover agents illegals. They actually
call them, not illegal aliens, but illegals. Is what the
Russian KGB. Have you ever seen the Americans play? It
(35:50):
is a fantastic series. It's an a it's an A series,
really really good.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
Yeah, it's been out, I mean what it's probably finished
about five years ago or so now more maybe ten.
It's been a while. Yeah, I watched it back in
the day. It was fantastic. Marv Quickly in and Canada,
what you got for us?
Speaker 10 (36:10):
I just wanted to weigh in on your comments about
oil pricing. Oil pricing last week hitting almost one twenty.
Oil pricing right now at below eighty three dollars a barrel.
It's a thirty percent drop. The last time that we
saw thirty percent drop in oil pricing was when Russia
(36:31):
invaded Ukraine. This kind of dramatic drop. The catalyst for
that is global, incredibly significant global actions that are taking place.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
We will discuss that and more. Oil prices down thirty
five dollars since yesterday.
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