April 13, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show opens the new broadcast week with an intense focus on breaking foreign policy developments, unfolding domestic political scandal, and real‑time reaction to remarks from President Donald Trump. Clay and Buck begin by setting the stage for what they describe as an exceptionally news‑heavy day, led by the escalating U.S.–Iran confrontation following failed negotiations in Pakistan. After more than 20 hours of talks, Iran rejected U.S. red lines on nuclear capability and maritime security, prompting President Trump to announce a full U.S. naval blockade on Iranian oil exports. The hosts explain that Iran’s threats to board ships, mine the Strait of Hormuz, and extract “tolls” constitute terrorism rather than control, and they analyze Trump’s decision to counter with American control of ingress and egress—allowing international shipping while cutting Iran off from global energy markets.
A major theme throughout Hour 1 is whether Iran can economically or politically survive a sustained blockade and whether the crisis can be resolved without a formal negotiated deal. Clay argues that Iran’s economy cannot function without oil exports and that Trump’s leverage is far greater than media narratives suggest, especially given America’s status as a global energy superpower. Buck counters that Iran’s leadership cannot voluntarily surrender its uranium stockpile without risking internal overthrow, making a peaceful handover impossible. Together, they explore a high‑risk but decisive scenario: a U.S. special operations mission to seize Iranian uranium directly, acknowledging it would involve significant ground forces, air superiority, and forward operating bases but might represent the only definitive way to end the nuclear threat.
Midway through Hour 1, the show pivots to domestic political shockwaves in California, where Democratic Congressman Eric Swalwell has withdrawn from the governor’s race amid a sudden and coordinated media takedown over graphic sexual misconduct allegations. Clay and Buck argue the scandal had been quietly known for years but was unleashed now to prevent a vulnerable Democrat from jeopardizing the party’s chances in California’s jungle primary system—potentially clearing a path for a Republican victory. They preview a later interview with Republican candidate Steve Hilton and question why Swalwell remains in Congress despite suspending his gubernatorial campaign.
The hour also captures live breaking news as President Trump addresses reporters. Trump confirms Iran’s nuclear program is the central sticking point, stating unequivocally that Iran “will not have a nuclear weapon” and declaring that the United States will either force Iran to give up its uranium or “take it.” He frames the blockade as both economic pressure and global protection, emphasizing that while America does not need the Strait of Hormuz for its own energy security, the rest of the world does—and that Iran will not be allowed to blackmail global commerce. Markets remain relatively calm during Trump’s remarks, reinforcing Clay’s argument that the economic risks are already priced in.
Hour 1 concludes with analysis of Trump’s unmistakably hardened posture, as Buck notes that the president appears fully committed to eliminating Iran’s nuclear capability “come hell or high water.” Listeners hear early reactions via calls and talkbacks debating the feasibility of a uranium seizure operation, the risks of escalation, and the political implications for Republicans heading into the midterms. Overall, Hour 1 delivers a fast‑moving, high‑stakes hour centered on war, energy security, political scandal, and presidential decision‑making—establishing the serious and urgent tone for the rest of the program.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. Today's one of those days, my friends,
where right at the jump, we've got probably five hours
of show that we wish we could talk to you
about on early three hours of time, So a ton
of stuff. Let's talk for a moment here, Let's lay
out the bountiful news feast. Let's look at the menu
(00:25):
and let you know where we're going, what we're talking
about today, what the big things are. I'm gonna start
with this. Actually we'll get into this later. I'm gonna
go in a little bit of reverse order. Swalwell is
done as Governor to be of California, which is a
remarkable turnabout. It was, as I joked on Twitter, Clay,
(00:47):
it looks like Swalwell was two weeks away from getting
a nuclear weapon. The concerted, all out Democrat media takedown
of this guy. Now, to be clear, this stuff is
really bad. They were hiding what everybody kind of knew,
and they've known about this for a long time. But
just the coordination of the total eradication of this guy's
(01:10):
political future about things that they had been keeping. Remember
they had known for months in some cases years these
allegations were out there. Swallow is a scumbag. I think
that is very obvious. Is the a criminal? That is
what is alleged at this point only. But he is done.
And our friend Steve Hilton, who was running against him,
(01:30):
was his chief competitor on the Republican side. He will
join us in the third hour and just talk about
this because wow, I mean, first off, the allegations really
really bad stuff about so I mean sexual not just
sexual harassment, real sexual assault allegations. It was and a
lot of cases people on the record total mess. Okay,
(01:50):
now that's about the domestic politics front. I actually want
to start us off though, Clay and we can get
to some of the latest from Trump last night at
and Andrew's joint base. But the situation with the Iran
and the straight Iran war, the straight or four moves.
So here's what happened as some of us expected and
(02:13):
predicted the negotiations which went on for twenty one hours
in Pakistan, when exactly nowhere Iran is like absolutely not
your red lines and our red lines are in conflict,
as in, there are things that Iran is just flatly
refusing to do that we will not bend on either
no deal. And so Clay, this brings us to this
(02:35):
current moment where Trump has said, okay, so you've already
basically violated the ceasefire because you're at least threatening. Now
that's a little bit. They haven't blown up any ships
or anything. They haven't crossed that red line. But Iran
is claiming the right to board ships, to take money,
to effectively hold the ship almost hostage, right to take
(02:58):
a two million dollars per ship bounty, and Trump, and
they've mined the straight of horror moves too. Trump has said,
all right, you know what we're gonna do. We now
control the straight of horn moves and we're gonna let
some ships go, but we're not gonna let Iranian ships go.
So Clay, we have now seen Trump say we're going
to blockade you Iran. We were being nice before, but
(03:20):
now you're going to have a full on oil blockade. You,
my friend, mister Clay, are the optimistic, optimistic voice on
the achievement of these goals with Iran. How are you
feeling about this right now?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, this is kind of what I expected to happen
on the blockade, arguing that Trump was frustrated with the
way the media had covered this by saying that Iran
controlled the straight of horror moves, which you I think
summed it up well by saying, basically, they're trying to
take the straight of horror moves hostage, and effectively they
(03:58):
are threatening terrorism, which is not a sign of control.
It's just a sign that you are crazy and you're
willing to extract a toll from people who are trying
to be law abiding and go about the business of
oil and commerce otherwise. So it doesn't surprise me at
all that President Trump says, Okay, if you're going to
(04:20):
be picking and choosing who you're going to allow in
and out of the strait of horror moves, we are
going to put a blockade. We're going to control ingress
and egress, and we're not going to allow Iranian oil
to reach global markets. Now, I pulled this because I
thought it was significant because this is where now we
(04:40):
go to the economic impact here roughly roughly, there is
and I think you said this on the program back
in the day, that there at about twenty percent of
overall exports that oil and gas, about twenty percent of
the overall Iranian economy, but by far other than your
(05:02):
beloved pistachios, which by the way, have surged in cost
as Iran is a top pistachio exporting economy.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
If you thought pistachio crembroulet was fancy before, it is
now the caviare of sweet desserts, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
And so the reality is the Iranian economy basically does
not work if they're not getting a lot of oil
and gas brought into their into their country. And so
Trump has said, Okay, instead of Iran being able to
pick and choose who gets through, we're gonna set up
a blockade and we're going to control this.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The real issue, I think is not going to be
the Straight of hor moves. I think that what will
happen there is Iran will agree to open back up
the Straight of horm removes eventually, and in the process
we will unfreeze many of their asses sets that are
frozen right now, and foreign banks that allow them to
do business, and frankly, that allow the corrupt ruling regime
(06:08):
of Iran to remain wealthy. Here is I think the
crux of all this buck and here's my prediction. It's
the uranium. You're right, I think that Iran will not
just give up nuclear ambition or handover the uranium. But
based on what we know happened when we rescue the
airmen who was hiding in a crevice in an Iranian mountain,
(06:31):
and we basically built an airfield. We had to abandon
some of the planes, but we established we will leave
no man behind as a part of rescuing him. I
think it was also kind of an interesting test because
what we established is we can build an airfield, we
can take our people in and out of Iran and
they really can't do anything about it. We can set
up a perimeter that surrounds all of those assets on
(06:55):
the ground, and due to our air superiority, Iran can't
really get to them.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So we talked about this before. It feels to me,
Buck if the uranium is seizable. If it's seizable, we
don't know because it's buried, how long would it take
to reach is it reachable? To me, the cinematic endto
this feels like Trump is going to want to seize
their uranium, pull it out of the country, have a grand,
(07:23):
huge special operation. Iran to me, may not necessarily oppose that.
Because it doesn't make them look weak in the country.
To me, it's weaker if they hand it over voluntarily.
If we take it, they can lie to their people
just say it didn't happen. That feels like.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Some form of resolution that would be of a scope
that could allow us to say, okay, this is over.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I think with the current government there, which is the
same as the old government, it's just new people. If
they agreed to just give over the uranium, they think
they would end up with bullets in the back of
their head, correct, and taking a dirt nap forever. I
think that's and by the way, I think that's correct.
So that's not happening.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
They cannot agree to in their own leadership, and they
absolutely cannot.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Agree to it. They would be signing their own death warrants,
I think, because remember, they can agree to it, and
then there's people around them who are probably thinking they
should be in charge anyway, And it just gets really
easy to be the one who is eliminated, because then
you would also have created all of this carnage and
chaos to protect an asset that you then give over. No,
(08:35):
it has to be taken, it has to then, so
you're right about that. It has to be taken. Now,
here's where this gets to me interesting. All Right, Iran
is playing a game here too, and their game is
who can last longer politically versus economically, As in, economically, yes,
America is the world's energy superpower. We don't get that
(08:56):
much oil from Iran. We're gonna be fine. Prices are
going to rise, and they might rise pretty considerably, and
they've already been rising. No one can really predict how
high that they'll go, but they're gonna rise. Okay, but
what are the politics of this look like here at home?
Can Iran hold out to the point where Republicans are
begging the administration for mercy, essentially saying, we are going
(09:20):
to lose thirty seats in the House, We are going
to get absolutely crushed in this midterm election. Unless you
stop this. You can come back to it later, right,
this is the thing Republics can say, hold on. No
one's saying, mister commander in chief, you can't finish the job,
but you got to give us some kind of an
agreement here until the midterm so that we're not focused
(09:43):
in on this. And of course, Iran's whole game here
is no, No, No, maximum maximum pain, maximum disunity at home.
But I got to say I was I was knew
that the I mean the Pakistan thing. Clay, Yeah, I
wouldn't if they had asked me to go along just
to observe. I mean, I have been interesting to go.
But they said, Buck, do you want to be involved
with negotiation? I would say no, because it's going nowhere.
(10:05):
It's a total waste of time. And it was total
waste of time. But Trump now saying, Okay, we're doing
a full on Iranian blockade. That's interesting. That's now ratcheting
this up. And that what's Iran's move? Either sit there
and think they can wait it out, or Clay, if
the pain gets high enough in Iran, maybe they blow
(10:25):
up a tanker. Those are their options. Their options are
continue this game of chicken or go for the well
not the nuclear option, thankfully, but they're absolute time. Their
absolute final option is blow up a tanker in the
straight of hor moves and see what happens. I don't
I don't know if they'll do it. They could do it.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
So this also comes back to can we extract the uranium?
But Buck, this comes back to my oil and gas
that's that's a ground AsSalt with a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Just to be clear, that's not like, you know, that's
not a small Trump. I'm telling you this is going
to appeal to Trump's cinematic nature. I just if it's doable.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I'm not sure it's doable, because it may be so
buried that we can't even get access to the United.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I think it's doable. I think we would have to
set up a Ford operating base on the fly.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yes, once, like what we did to rescue the airmen,
which is kind of a little bit of a test
of whether we.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Would have to set up We would have to set
up a cord in, a security cord in with an
air corridor where we had. But now you're talking about
setting up a Ford operating base on the ground in
a sovereign nation that still has about a half a
million men under arms in their military. I mean, this
is like really intense operational stuff. Do you ask our
(11:44):
Delta guys can they pull us off? They'll be like, yeah,
of course, just tell us, mister President, like they'll do it.
So it's possible. But that would be the most I
don't know if there is a more because the Iranians
know where it is, so they know where they have
to set up their reinforcements and set up their protection.
You know, I don't know, man. I wonder what those
(12:04):
Pentagon reports look like about what kind of assets the
Iranians can bring to bear to try to defend them.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Here is the other part of this buck that I
think is significant. This is what we were talking about
with oil and gas in America being a next net
exporting country. Now oil and gas numbers haven't moved that much,
and so even with the blockade now set up, the
expense here has been priced in and a lot of
(12:30):
the benefit it inures to American energy companies. So it's
very different. And again the economic reality Iran can't function
if we don't allow them to sell their oil and
gas for a few weeks here. I don't even think
prices at this point would move very much. I think
they're basically stable at this point in time. And as
(12:53):
a result, I think Trump has a lot more economic
power than a lot of people have recognized. And that
that's why the blockade move did not surprise me. And
to your point, now's the question on Iran. I think
if they seize the uranium. It's actually helpful and it
sounds crazy to Iran because it allows them to avoid
(13:14):
the bullets in the back of the head scenario where
if they truly give up their uranium, they're in a
situation where the people in position to power there can't
stay in power. We'll take some of your calls. We
may have some special ops guys out there. How feasible
is the extraction of the uranium. But the other thing
Trump would love about this is it embarrasses George W.
(13:37):
Bush on Iraq because there were no WMDs. If he
shows up with uranium canisters and says, boom, we went
and took this out, it is a different level of
success and it demonstrates just how different that situation in
Iran was with Iraq. I just it feels like this
is what's going to appeal the most to Trump. Is
(13:58):
it risky, yes, but if it feels like a way
to end this sometime in the next couple of weeks,
we'll see.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Take your calls on this one very interesting situation playing
out there. And we haven't even gotten into the domestic
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Speaker 3 (15:22):
Common sense never sounded so good, Clayan Buck owning the airwaves.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
All right, we got a bunch to get into here.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
We'll continue to talk about the Iran situation, the blockade
as the market observer market not moving very much at all.
As again, I think there's general optimism and that there's
going to be some form of resolution sooner rather than later.
One thing, Buck, I actually was doing my research on this.
You and I have been talking about this off air.
(15:52):
Why was there so much of a difference in oil
prices depending on which market you were looking at? I
figured out the answer on this. Usually the oil markets
are pretty consistent, that is, the prices between the spot
and the futures. This is me going into energy world research.
What has happened is we've got the largest divergence between
(16:13):
spot that's current like if you needed to buy a
barrel of oil right now and futures, so if you
usually they're relatively similar in cost right now because of
the current blockade, but also the other uncertainty, the lack
of willingness to come through. The current spot market has
(16:34):
which is what again, if you needed to buy a
barrel of oil right now, has diverged significantly from the
futures market, and that is why you're sometimes seeing, oh,
oil and gas one hundred and twenty dollars a barrel
versus ninety five dollars a barrel. And we'll get into that,
but that's a little bit of info for you if
you're looking at both those. Okay, let's set the table here, buck.
(16:55):
Eric Swalwell has withdrawn from the race for governor or
We're going to talk with Steve Hilton, the leading Republican
candidate endorsed by President Trump the top of the third
hour on the program. He's been a friend of the
program for a long time. But it feels to me
like Democrats just ordered the code red on him because
(17:15):
there were so many stories out there about Eric Swalwell
inappropriate relationships and everything else, and he was the leading candidate,
and I think they got afraid it was going.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
To come out in the general. So there's that clay,
but there's also because of the jungle primary, we have
to get into the specifics of this Swallwell and the
other candidates were splitting up the vote in a way
where Steve Hilton could win. And so it wasn't just
a code red of oh, we can't have this guy
because he's too vulnerable in a general it was we
(17:48):
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Clay and Bucks. So is Trump talking right now?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Is that really happen?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
He is?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
So soon? Okay, because we'll go live at any moment.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Presumably it's about Iran, although we didn't see Milania's Epstein
comments coming either, so who knows?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
To be fair, Yeah, I was. I was surprised at
those comments, and apparently Trump was too. We were sitting here.
Usually as soon as something happens, Clay and I's it's
like the wheel is going with you, like this is
why this happened, and this is why this makes sense
or doesn't. And everything with the Malania thing, we're like,
what what is this?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Nobody's talking about? Is going to do a White House
press conference on it? Even Trump said, I'm not really
expecting it. And that's not the advice, you know, necessarily
that I would have given. And I think there's a
lot of married men out there that that understand that.
Sometimes even even the president of You know, this is
why it's so funny, Like Trump's a dictator. His wife
(19:50):
just had a press conference, and he was like, I
didn't really want it to happen. But he's a married guy,
and you know, he does a lot of control.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Of his his own marriage. Necessary a lot of you
are going to nod your heads in this, and hopefully
your wife isn't sitting right next to you when you do.
But there is something about being a guy, being a guy,
being married and you are making choices. Part of being
a man married man is you are making choices for peace,
over being right, for peace over what was necessarily the
(20:22):
best option or the wisest move. And I think that
applies to Trump too. Sometimes sometimes the wife wants to
do something and you just have to go, you know what. Fine.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I love that he gave that answer. They were like,
well did you He's like, I didn't really know. I mean,
I'm paraphrasing Trump on this. He's like, I didn't really
know she was going to do an Epstein press conference.
Probably wasn't the advice that I would have given, right
but that's him choosing peace over the wise move because
that he decided, Yeah, she decided she was going to
have a press conference, and he probably said, are you
(20:55):
really sure that's the best idea.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I don't know, and she was like, no, I'm doing it.
I mean you.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
And I thought, well, there must be another story coming out.
So far, there hasn't been anything else that she was
getting in front of. I've learned that Ninja level husband
is when your wife insists that you take a different
route than the one that you're used to taking or
that you want to take in the car, and it
becomes clear that this is now longer that you say,
(21:20):
I'm glad we're taking this because it just means I
get to spend more time with you. That that is
the ninth degree black belt level of husbandness. It is
definitely not I told you this is the wrong route.
That is no no, that is no no. And you
just get ways and you just follow it and sometimes
(21:41):
it leads you astray, but you just point to ways
and you say, Ali just texted us. The most powerful
piece in chess is the queen. This is a very
good line. That's a very good line. I've never thought
about that before.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
When you play chess at all. I actually really enjoyed chess.
I wish I played it more.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I used to play my dad, and I used to
play my sons. I got them involved in playing chess
because I think it's good strategically to kind of think
through it, and they played a lot as as young kids.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, it should make it come back. It's a fun
game a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I mean, I think it's more popular than it ever
has been before. Online people play chess at incredible rates,
and it's just a good way to challenge your brain.
It's actually we'll get to more on Swallow or in
a moment, but this is actually my pro AI take chess.
Remember back in the day when it was hey, when
is the computer going to be better than a human
(22:31):
at chess? And it happened, I don't know, twenty five
years ago or something that I think IBM created Deep
Blue and it could beat everybody, and then people just
stop caring because computers are infinitely better than humans at chess.
But chess has never been more popular because people want
to see humans compete and pursue excellence. We know that
(22:52):
at some point artificial intelligence is going to exceed our
processing capacity. But human excellence and human creativity and uh
and competition I think is going to continue to thrive
and chest to me, is an interesting metaphor there.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Okay, wait wait, wait, wait wait, queen your swallwall hour.
I wanted to do some of the trump. I think
we're gonna get to trump here in a second. So
can we put a pin in the swall well till
want to click the pin in swallwall the top of
the next hour, because because I want you to just
lay the whole thing out, like I want your whole
swallwell take it was. It was wild starting on Friday,
just looking at all the stuff coming in, all these stories,
all these allegations and the stuff that this guy was doing.
(23:30):
And then all these people online, some of whom I'm
familiar with their work, people in the media journalism space, whatever,
who are Oh yeah, everybody knew this. Everybody knew this.
The Democrats were running a guy who was sending photos
of his privates to random women online as a member
of Congress and a married guy with three kids. By
(23:50):
the way, I always think this is true too, single
guy versus married guy with kids. Different sets are talking
about legal stuff now, but different sets are rules. You know,
you were sliding in the DM a single member of Congress, okay,
but you can't slide in with your private parts. You
can slide in and say would you like to have
a beverage with me, but you can't slide in with hey,
look at this not yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I mean that whole story was pretty crazy, and we'll
get into it a lot next hour, because I think
it tells us much. What I would say is imagine
doing all of that and deciding that you were going
to spend huge amounts of your political time focusing on
Epstein and also arguing that Trump was unacceptable when you,
(24:33):
as as a married member of Congress, are basically engaged
in all sorts of wacky behavior.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I have two thoughts for you on this. One is
in psychology, Clay, they call this projection yeah, which is
clearly something that or accusation is a confession is a
phrase that is out there for sure. You could say
squawl Doth protests too much about sketchy sexual behavior when
it came to Trump. The other thing that I would
(25:02):
point out is they want he's out of the governor's race.
Now he has suspended his campaign. He's out of the
governor's race, but why is he still in Congress? Everybody, great,
we're gonna have to get to that.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Do you have Trump now, I was trying to speaking.
I think right now I can't tell exactly who he's with.
Take him live, a food delivery worker at the White House.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
It's supposed to be me as a doctor making people better,
and I do make people better.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
I make people a lot better.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
As an example, the eleven thousand, I understand your husband's
going through a treatment, Yes, sir, Yes, he's going to
do some very serious cancer treatment.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
So yes, this goes a long way, Yes, sir, it does.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
A round of talks, plans ran and if so, you
signed Vice President Genevanster.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Well, he's done a good job. At Steve and Jared,
they've all done a very good job. And I can
tell you that we've been called by the other side.
They'd like to make a deal very badly, very badly.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Point over.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
You said it was over nuclear.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
It was over nuclear very similar, Yeah, very good. I
guess you're listening. It's over the fact that they will
never have a nuclear weapon. Aren you market it down?
Aren will not have a nuclear weapon? And we agreed
to a lot of things, but they didn't agree to that.
And I think they will agree to it. I'm almost
sure of it. In fact, I am sure of it.
(26:26):
If they don't agree, there's no deal, there'll never be
a deal. A ren will not have a nuclear weapon,
and we're going to get the dust back.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
We'll get it back. Either we'll get it back from
them or we'll take it.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Blockade is concerned.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
What's the end game? Is it the force we're on
back to the negotiating people. Is it to open up
the straits so that gas parts ultimately come down?
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Maybe everything? I mean both of those things, certainly and more.
We can't let a country blackmail or extort the world,
because that's what they're doing. They're really black bailing the world.
We're not going to let that happen. And you know
the amazing thing is, we don't can you believe this,
We don't use this, we don't need this share.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
We have our own oil and gas much more than
we need. We have more oil and gas than Saudi Arabia.
Think of this.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
We produce more Saudi Arabia and add Russia to it
substantially more, and by.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Next year we'll have double that amount, so we don't
need it, but the world needs it. And many ships are.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Heading to our country right now as we speak, to
load up with the best. Really, I guess you could
say somebody said the best and sweetest. I don't know
exactly what sweet is, but when it relates to oil,
it's a good thing. But they're coming to our country
right now. There are many boats coming to our country now.
It could very well be this is going to be
settled before that. We've been called this morning by the
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right people, the appropriate people, and they want to work
a deal.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
They would like to work a deal. Is it your anticipation,
mister President, that all the countries.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Well in this effort, those other countries are going to
as we don't need other countries, frankly, but they've offered
the services.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
We'll let it. We'll let it be known probably tomorrow. Yeah,
started at ten o'clock.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
And support to you and your policy creation you for
defending really industry downs.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Leo and politize. No, I don't because Popolio said things
that are wrong.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
He was very much against what I'm doing with with
regard to Iran, and you cannot have a nuclear Iran
Popolio would not be happy.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
With the end result.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
You have hundreds of millions of people dead and it's
not going.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
To happen, so I can't.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I think he's very weak on crime and other things,
so I'm not I mean, he he went public.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
I'm just responding to Popolio.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
And you know, his brother is a big Maga person
and he's a great guy, Lewis, And I said, I
like Lewis better than I could Pope.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Now, you have to have a law and order in
our country, and that's what we have.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Now.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
We have the lowest crime numbers we've had in a
long time, despite the fact that many criminals were allowed
into our country, but we've gotten.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
A lot of them out. We've done a great job
on crime.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
So we have the lowest murder rate in one hundred
and twenty five years since nineteen hundred, the lowest murder rate.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
So we believe strongly in law and order. And he
seemed to have a problem with that, so there's nothing
to apologize for. He's wrong. And the other thing is
he didn't like what we're doing with respect to Iran.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
But Iran is a wants to be a nuclear nation,
so they can exterminate the world not going to happen.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
And he's rod, but I supply.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Deal is not reached by the end of this Inspire.
Is your direct from before still scared?
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Yeah, I don't want to comment on that, but it
won't be pleasant for them. Let me quit it that one.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Has your timetable changed in any way in terms.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Of ending of this conference.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
No, I'm just going it's going on right now. There's
no fighting right now. We have a blockade. They're doing
no business. I didn't like seeing boats come out if
they were doing business with a run, but if they weren't,
no boats came out. So now they're doing Iran is
doing absolutely no business, and we're gonna keep it that
way very easily.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Don't forget.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
The Navy is gone, their air force is gone, their
anti aircraft.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Is gone, their radar is gone, and their leaders are gone.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Let's come back in here. We got to get hit
a commercial break. We're going to continue to run on
this audio from President Trump at the White House. Buck
what stood out to me, and we'll pull this. He
said about the nuclear dust there, uranium, whatever capacity it's
in right now, either they give it up or we
take it, which I thought, is maybe the most significant
(30:59):
thing that I heard so far.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Again, we haven't been able to listen to it all. Yeah,
that means this operation involving substantial ground troops and the
whole thing is on the table, Yes, full stop on
that is on the table, which let me just say,
Trump sounds like he is committed to finishing off the
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Speaker 2 (32:49):
Okay, President Trump continuing to speak. He's talking about the
UFC fight right now. I don't know exactly what led
to that question, but I do want to play. I
believe we have the cut, which is the most significant
statement I've seen so far on the nuclear dust as
he called it, either they give it up or we
take it cut thirty five over the fact.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
That they will never have a nuclear weapon. Aren you
mark it down.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Iren will not have a nuclear weapon, and we agree
to a lot of things, but they didn't agree to that,
and I think they will agree to it.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
I'm almost sure of it. In fact, I am sure
of it. If they don't agree, there's no deal. They'll
never be a deal.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Iren will not have a nuclear weapon, and we're going
to get the dust back. We'll get it back, either
we'll get it back from them or we'll take it.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
So I haven't heard a follow up question of that.
Sometimes I get frustrated by the morons that are in
the media because they don't even notice the most significant
things that are said and follow up with it. Because
he might not answer the question, but him saying either
they will give it up or we will take it
is exactly how we open the program. Buck with you
and I agree that Iran can ant give up their
(34:01):
new They might say publicly, as they have said before, hey,
we're you know, not going to pursue nuclear weapons, but
the idea that they would hand over the existing uranium,
it's not a starter.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
It's a non starter. This is this is an intractable
part of them to go. This is why I've been
saying there's not going to be a deal. Everybody, Okay,
because we're saying they have to give up the uranium.
I'm telling you there's zero chance they're going to give
up the uranium willingly. Zero. It's not happening because that
would mean because if they were willing to do that,
why have we gone through all of this? Why have
we been doing all this?
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
This is the the whole thing comes down to that.
Keithan from Melbourne, Florida. This is g on the talkbacks.
Hit it the fuck is correct on this one. It
would be really stupid for us to try to extract
that uranium.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
They have a half a million men under arms, as
Buck said, they would be laying in wait for us.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Now, to be clear, I didn't say it was stupid.
I said it would be tough and quite an operation.
But do I think it's within the US military's capability
to pull this off? Probably? I mean what would happen
is whatever entrenched soldiers, et cetera they would have around
these sites, we would lay waste them from the air,
which we can do. That's the thing. They can't just
(35:22):
camp out there because if they just camp out there,
we're going to pound them from the air. So they'd
have to have ways of having a quick reaction for
us nearby that we can't get at. You know, they're
going to put surface their missile sites, clay things like that.
But that's I think where you know, the military planning
on this could be pretty next level. What I'll also
(35:44):
say is, if our goal is we.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Have to know that they're not going to have nuclear weapons,
they why all the time, So the only way to
ensure is to get this. I think Trump wants it cinematically.
I don't think they will give it up. Here's the
other part of this buck that I think is signific Again,
a lot of those nuclear locations are isolated, so it's
not as if they were creating the nuclear weapons in
(36:08):
the middle of downtown Tehran. They mostly were remote. We
will break down all of this and more when we
come back. We got a couple of more cuts for
you from President Trump in the Oval office. I will
say stock market has all turned positive on his comments
as there does not seem to be a great deal
of panic over the blockade being put in place. And
(36:32):
we'll continue to take your call. You're kind of the
anti panikin you know this.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Take take two of Clay with a glass of water,
and your panikin disappears.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I feel good about it. We'll see whether I'm a
moron or not. Eventually, the next hour fall well, the
discuss
Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. Today's one of those days, my friends,
where right at the jump, we've got probably five hours
of show that we wish we could talk to you
about on early three hours of time, So a ton
of stuff. Let's talk for a moment here, Let's lay
out the bountiful news feast. Let's look at the menu
(00:25):
and let you know where we're going, what we're talking
about today, what the big things are. I'm gonna start
with this. Actually we'll get into this later. I'm gonna
go in a little bit of reverse order. Swalwell is
done as Governor to be of California, which is a
remarkable turnabout. It was, as I joked on Twitter, Clay,
(00:47):
it looks like Swalwell was two weeks away from getting
a nuclear weapon. The concerted, all out Democrat media takedown
of this guy. Now, to be clear, this stuff is
really bad. They were hiding what everybody kind of knew,
and they've known about this for a long time. But
just the coordination of the total eradication of this guy's
(01:10):
political future about things that they had been keeping. Remember
they had known for months in some cases years these
allegations were out there. Swallow is a scumbag. I think
that is very obvious. Is the a criminal? That is
what is alleged at this point only. But he is done.
And our friend Steve Hilton, who was running against him,
(01:30):
was his chief competitor on the Republican side. He will
join us in the third hour and just talk about
this because wow, I mean, first off, the allegations really
really bad stuff about so I mean sexual not just
sexual harassment, real sexual assault allegations. It was and a
lot of cases people on the record total mess. Okay,
(01:50):
now that's about the domestic politics front. I actually want
to start us off though, Clay and we can get
to some of the latest from Trump last night at
and Andrew's joint base. But the situation with the Iran
and the straight Iran war, the straight or four moves.
So here's what happened as some of us expected and
(02:13):
predicted the negotiations which went on for twenty one hours
in Pakistan, when exactly nowhere Iran is like absolutely not
your red lines and our red lines are in conflict,
as in, there are things that Iran is just flatly
refusing to do that we will not bend on either
no deal. And so Clay, this brings us to this
(02:35):
current moment where Trump has said, okay, so you've already
basically violated the ceasefire because you're at least threatening. Now
that's a little bit. They haven't blown up any ships
or anything. They haven't crossed that red line. But Iran
is claiming the right to board ships, to take money,
to effectively hold the ship almost hostage, right to take
(02:58):
a two million dollars per ship bounty, and Trump, and
they've mined the straight of horror moves too. Trump has said,
all right, you know what we're gonna do. We now
control the straight of horn moves and we're gonna let
some ships go, but we're not gonna let Iranian ships go.
So Clay, we have now seen Trump say we're going
to blockade you Iran. We were being nice before, but
(03:20):
now you're going to have a full on oil blockade. You,
my friend, mister Clay, are the optimistic, optimistic voice on
the achievement of these goals with Iran. How are you
feeling about this right now?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, this is kind of what I expected to happen
on the blockade, arguing that Trump was frustrated with the
way the media had covered this by saying that Iran
controlled the straight of horror moves, which you I think
summed it up well by saying, basically, they're trying to
take the straight of horror moves hostage, and effectively they
(03:58):
are threatening terrorism, which is not a sign of control.
It's just a sign that you are crazy and you're
willing to extract a toll from people who are trying
to be law abiding and go about the business of
oil and commerce otherwise. So it doesn't surprise me at
all that President Trump says, Okay, if you're going to
(04:20):
be picking and choosing who you're going to allow in
and out of the strait of horror moves, we are
going to put a blockade. We're going to control ingress
and egress, and we're not going to allow Iranian oil
to reach global markets. Now, I pulled this because I
thought it was significant because this is where now we
(04:40):
go to the economic impact here roughly roughly, there is
and I think you said this on the program back
in the day, that there at about twenty percent of
overall exports that oil and gas, about twenty percent of
the overall Iranian economy, but by far other than your
(05:02):
beloved pistachios, which by the way, have surged in cost
as Iran is a top pistachio exporting economy.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
If you thought pistachio crembroulet was fancy before, it is
now the caviare of sweet desserts, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
And so the reality is the Iranian economy basically does
not work if they're not getting a lot of oil
and gas brought into their into their country. And so
Trump has said, Okay, instead of Iran being able to
pick and choose who gets through, we're gonna set up
a blockade and we're going to control this.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The real issue, I think is not going to be
the Straight of hor moves. I think that what will
happen there is Iran will agree to open back up
the Straight of horm removes eventually, and in the process
we will unfreeze many of their asses sets that are
frozen right now, and foreign banks that allow them to
do business, and frankly, that allow the corrupt ruling regime
(06:08):
of Iran to remain wealthy. Here is I think the
crux of all this buck and here's my prediction. It's
the uranium. You're right, I think that Iran will not
just give up nuclear ambition or handover the uranium. But
based on what we know happened when we rescue the
airmen who was hiding in a crevice in an Iranian mountain,
(06:31):
and we basically built an airfield. We had to abandon
some of the planes, but we established we will leave
no man behind as a part of rescuing him. I
think it was also kind of an interesting test because
what we established is we can build an airfield, we
can take our people in and out of Iran and
they really can't do anything about it. We can set
up a perimeter that surrounds all of those assets on
(06:55):
the ground, and due to our air superiority, Iran can't
really get to them.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So we talked about this before. It feels to me,
Buck if the uranium is seizable. If it's seizable, we
don't know because it's buried, how long would it take
to reach is it reachable? To me, the cinematic endto
this feels like Trump is going to want to seize
their uranium, pull it out of the country, have a grand,
(07:23):
huge special operation. Iran to me, may not necessarily oppose that.
Because it doesn't make them look weak in the country.
To me, it's weaker if they hand it over voluntarily.
If we take it, they can lie to their people
just say it didn't happen. That feels like.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Some form of resolution that would be of a scope
that could allow us to say, okay, this is over.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I think with the current government there, which is the
same as the old government, it's just new people. If
they agreed to just give over the uranium, they think
they would end up with bullets in the back of
their head, correct, and taking a dirt nap forever. I
think that's and by the way, I think that's correct.
So that's not happening.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
They cannot agree to in their own leadership, and they
absolutely cannot.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Agree to it. They would be signing their own death warrants,
I think, because remember, they can agree to it, and
then there's people around them who are probably thinking they
should be in charge anyway, And it just gets really
easy to be the one who is eliminated, because then
you would also have created all of this carnage and
chaos to protect an asset that you then give over. No,
(08:35):
it has to be taken, it has to then, so
you're right about that. It has to be taken. Now,
here's where this gets to me interesting. All Right, Iran
is playing a game here too, and their game is
who can last longer politically versus economically, As in, economically, yes,
America is the world's energy superpower. We don't get that
(08:56):
much oil from Iran. We're gonna be fine. Prices are
going to rise, and they might rise pretty considerably, and
they've already been rising. No one can really predict how
high that they'll go, but they're gonna rise. Okay, but
what are the politics of this look like here at home?
Can Iran hold out to the point where Republicans are
begging the administration for mercy, essentially saying, we are going
(09:20):
to lose thirty seats in the House, We are going
to get absolutely crushed in this midterm election. Unless you
stop this. You can come back to it later, right,
this is the thing Republics can say, hold on. No
one's saying, mister commander in chief, you can't finish the job,
but you got to give us some kind of an
agreement here until the midterm so that we're not focused
(09:43):
in on this. And of course, Iran's whole game here
is no, No, No, maximum maximum pain, maximum disunity at home.
But I got to say I was I was knew
that the I mean the Pakistan thing. Clay, Yeah, I
wouldn't if they had asked me to go along just
to observe. I mean, I have been interesting to go.
But they said, Buck, do you want to be involved
with negotiation? I would say no, because it's going nowhere.
(10:05):
It's a total waste of time. And it was total
waste of time. But Trump now saying, Okay, we're doing
a full on Iranian blockade. That's interesting. That's now ratcheting
this up. And that what's Iran's move? Either sit there
and think they can wait it out, or Clay, if
the pain gets high enough in Iran, maybe they blow
(10:25):
up a tanker. Those are their options. Their options are
continue this game of chicken or go for the well
not the nuclear option, thankfully, but they're absolute time. Their
absolute final option is blow up a tanker in the
straight of hor moves and see what happens. I don't
I don't know if they'll do it. They could do it.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
So this also comes back to can we extract the uranium?
But Buck, this comes back to my oil and gas
that's that's a ground AsSalt with a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Just to be clear, that's not like, you know, that's
not a small Trump. I'm telling you this is going
to appeal to Trump's cinematic nature. I just if it's doable.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I'm not sure it's doable, because it may be so
buried that we can't even get access to the United.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I think it's doable. I think we would have to
set up a Ford operating base on the fly.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yes, once, like what we did to rescue the airmen,
which is kind of a little bit of a test
of whether we.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Would have to set up We would have to set
up a cord in, a security cord in with an
air corridor where we had. But now you're talking about
setting up a Ford operating base on the ground in
a sovereign nation that still has about a half a
million men under arms in their military. I mean, this
is like really intense operational stuff. Do you ask our
(11:44):
Delta guys can they pull us off? They'll be like, yeah,
of course, just tell us, mister President, like they'll do it.
So it's possible. But that would be the most I
don't know if there is a more because the Iranians
know where it is, so they know where they have
to set up their reinforcements and set up their protection.
You know, I don't know, man. I wonder what those
(12:04):
Pentagon reports look like about what kind of assets the
Iranians can bring to bear to try to defend them.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Here is the other part of this buck that I
think is significant. This is what we were talking about
with oil and gas in America being a next net
exporting country. Now oil and gas numbers haven't moved that much,
and so even with the blockade now set up, the
expense here has been priced in and a lot of
(12:30):
the benefit it inures to American energy companies. So it's
very different. And again the economic reality Iran can't function
if we don't allow them to sell their oil and
gas for a few weeks here. I don't even think
prices at this point would move very much. I think
they're basically stable at this point in time. And as
(12:53):
a result, I think Trump has a lot more economic
power than a lot of people have recognized. And that
that's why the blockade move did not surprise me. And
to your point, now's the question on Iran. I think
if they seize the uranium. It's actually helpful and it
sounds crazy to Iran because it allows them to avoid
(13:14):
the bullets in the back of the head scenario where
if they truly give up their uranium, they're in a
situation where the people in position to power there can't
stay in power. We'll take some of your calls. We
may have some special ops guys out there. How feasible
is the extraction of the uranium. But the other thing
Trump would love about this is it embarrasses George W.
(13:37):
Bush on Iraq because there were no WMDs. If he
shows up with uranium canisters and says, boom, we went
and took this out, it is a different level of
success and it demonstrates just how different that situation in
Iran was with Iraq. I just it feels like this
is what's going to appeal the most to Trump. Is
(13:58):
it risky, yes, but if it feels like a way
to end this sometime in the next couple of weeks,
we'll see.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
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Common sense never sounded so good, Clayan Buck owning the airwaves.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
All right, we got a bunch to get into here.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
We'll continue to talk about the Iran situation, the blockade
as the market observer market not moving very much at all.
As again, I think there's general optimism and that there's
going to be some form of resolution sooner rather than later.
One thing, Buck, I actually was doing my research on this.
You and I have been talking about this off air.
(15:52):
Why was there so much of a difference in oil
prices depending on which market you were looking at? I
figured out the answer on this. Usually the oil markets
are pretty consistent, that is, the prices between the spot
and the futures. This is me going into energy world research.
What has happened is we've got the largest divergence between
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spot that's current like if you needed to buy a
barrel of oil right now and futures, so if you
usually they're relatively similar in cost right now because of
the current blockade, but also the other uncertainty, the lack
of willingness to come through. The current spot market has
(16:34):
which is what again, if you needed to buy a
barrel of oil right now, has diverged significantly from the
futures market, and that is why you're sometimes seeing, oh,
oil and gas one hundred and twenty dollars a barrel
versus ninety five dollars a barrel. And we'll get into that,
but that's a little bit of info for you if
you're looking at both those. Okay, let's set the table here, buck.
(16:55):
Eric Swalwell has withdrawn from the race for governor or
We're going to talk with Steve Hilton, the leading Republican
candidate endorsed by President Trump the top of the third
hour on the program. He's been a friend of the
program for a long time. But it feels to me
like Democrats just ordered the code red on him because
(17:15):
there were so many stories out there about Eric Swalwell
inappropriate relationships and everything else, and he was the leading candidate,
and I think they got afraid it was going.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
To come out in the general. So there's that clay,
but there's also because of the jungle primary, we have
to get into the specifics of this Swallwell and the
other candidates were splitting up the vote in a way
where Steve Hilton could win. And so it wasn't just
a code red of oh, we can't have this guy
because he's too vulnerable in a general it was we
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have to stop this guy no matter what. Otherwise a
Republican might become the governor of California. That's really where
this was, which is just wild politics. We'll get into
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Clay and Bucks. So is Trump talking right now?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Is that really happen?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
He is?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
So soon? Okay, because we'll go live at any moment.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Presumably it's about Iran, although we didn't see Milania's Epstein
comments coming either, so who knows?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
To be fair, Yeah, I was. I was surprised at
those comments, and apparently Trump was too. We were sitting here.
Usually as soon as something happens, Clay and I's it's
like the wheel is going with you, like this is
why this happened, and this is why this makes sense
or doesn't. And everything with the Malania thing, we're like,
what what is this?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Nobody's talking about? Is going to do a White House
press conference on it? Even Trump said, I'm not really
expecting it. And that's not the advice, you know, necessarily
that I would have given. And I think there's a
lot of married men out there that that understand that.
Sometimes even even the president of You know, this is
why it's so funny, Like Trump's a dictator. His wife
(19:50):
just had a press conference, and he was like, I
didn't really want it to happen. But he's a married guy,
and you know, he does a lot of control.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Of his his own marriage. Necessary a lot of you
are going to nod your heads in this, and hopefully
your wife isn't sitting right next to you when you do.
But there is something about being a guy, being a guy,
being married and you are making choices. Part of being
a man married man is you are making choices for peace,
over being right, for peace over what was necessarily the
(20:22):
best option or the wisest move. And I think that
applies to Trump too. Sometimes sometimes the wife wants to
do something and you just have to go, you know what. Fine.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I love that he gave that answer. They were like,
well did you He's like, I didn't really know. I mean,
I'm paraphrasing Trump on this. He's like, I didn't really
know she was going to do an Epstein press conference.
Probably wasn't the advice that I would have given, right
but that's him choosing peace over the wise move because
that he decided, Yeah, she decided she was going to
have a press conference, and he probably said, are you
(20:55):
really sure that's the best idea.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I don't know, and she was like, no, I'm doing it.
I mean you.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
And I thought, well, there must be another story coming out.
So far, there hasn't been anything else that she was
getting in front of. I've learned that Ninja level husband
is when your wife insists that you take a different
route than the one that you're used to taking or
that you want to take in the car, and it
becomes clear that this is now longer that you say,
(21:20):
I'm glad we're taking this because it just means I
get to spend more time with you. That that is
the ninth degree black belt level of husbandness. It is
definitely not I told you this is the wrong route.
That is no no, that is no no. And you
just get ways and you just follow it and sometimes
(21:41):
it leads you astray, but you just point to ways
and you say, Ali just texted us. The most powerful
piece in chess is the queen. This is a very
good line. That's a very good line. I've never thought
about that before.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
When you play chess at all. I actually really enjoyed chess.
I wish I played it more.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I used to play my dad, and I used to
play my sons. I got them involved in playing chess
because I think it's good strategically to kind of think
through it, and they played a lot as as young kids.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, it should make it come back. It's a fun
game a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I mean, I think it's more popular than it ever
has been before. Online people play chess at incredible rates,
and it's just a good way to challenge your brain.
It's actually we'll get to more on Swallow or in
a moment, but this is actually my pro AI take chess.
Remember back in the day when it was hey, when
is the computer going to be better than a human
(22:31):
at chess? And it happened, I don't know, twenty five
years ago or something that I think IBM created Deep
Blue and it could beat everybody, and then people just
stop caring because computers are infinitely better than humans at chess.
But chess has never been more popular because people want
to see humans compete and pursue excellence. We know that
(22:52):
at some point artificial intelligence is going to exceed our
processing capacity. But human excellence and human creativity and uh
and competition I think is going to continue to thrive
and chest to me, is an interesting metaphor there.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Okay, wait wait, wait, wait wait, queen your swallwall hour.
I wanted to do some of the trump. I think
we're gonna get to trump here in a second. So
can we put a pin in the swall well till
want to click the pin in swallwall the top of
the next hour, because because I want you to just
lay the whole thing out, like I want your whole
swallwell take it was. It was wild starting on Friday,
just looking at all the stuff coming in, all these stories,
all these allegations and the stuff that this guy was doing.
(23:30):
And then all these people online, some of whom I'm
familiar with their work, people in the media journalism space, whatever,
who are Oh yeah, everybody knew this. Everybody knew this.
The Democrats were running a guy who was sending photos
of his privates to random women online as a member
of Congress and a married guy with three kids. By
(23:50):
the way, I always think this is true too, single
guy versus married guy with kids. Different sets are talking
about legal stuff now, but different sets are rules. You know,
you were sliding in the DM a single member of Congress, okay,
but you can't slide in with your private parts. You
can slide in and say would you like to have
a beverage with me, but you can't slide in with hey,
look at this not yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I mean that whole story was pretty crazy, and we'll
get into it a lot next hour, because I think
it tells us much. What I would say is imagine
doing all of that and deciding that you were going
to spend huge amounts of your political time focusing on
Epstein and also arguing that Trump was unacceptable when you,
(24:33):
as as a married member of Congress, are basically engaged
in all sorts of wacky behavior.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I have two thoughts for you on this. One is
in psychology, Clay, they call this projection yeah, which is
clearly something that or accusation is a confession is a
phrase that is out there for sure. You could say
squawl Doth protests too much about sketchy sexual behavior when
it came to Trump. The other thing that I would
(25:02):
point out is they want he's out of the governor's race.
Now he has suspended his campaign. He's out of the
governor's race, but why is he still in Congress? Everybody, great,
we're gonna have to get to that.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Do you have Trump now, I was trying to speaking.
I think right now I can't tell exactly who he's with.
Take him live, a food delivery worker at the White House.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
It's supposed to be me as a doctor making people better,
and I do make people better.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
I make people a lot better.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
As an example, the eleven thousand, I understand your husband's
going through a treatment, Yes, sir, Yes, he's going to
do some very serious cancer treatment.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
So yes, this goes a long way, Yes, sir, it does.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
A round of talks, plans ran and if so, you
signed Vice President Genevanster.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Well, he's done a good job. At Steve and Jared,
they've all done a very good job. And I can
tell you that we've been called by the other side.
They'd like to make a deal very badly, very badly.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Point over.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
You said it was over nuclear.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
It was over nuclear very similar, Yeah, very good. I
guess you're listening. It's over the fact that they will
never have a nuclear weapon. Aren you market it down?
Aren will not have a nuclear weapon? And we agreed
to a lot of things, but they didn't agree to that.
And I think they will agree to it. I'm almost
sure of it. In fact, I am sure of it.
(26:26):
If they don't agree, there's no deal, there'll never be
a deal. A ren will not have a nuclear weapon,
and we're going to get the dust back.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
We'll get it back. Either we'll get it back from
them or we'll take it.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Blockade is concerned.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
What's the end game? Is it the force we're on
back to the negotiating people. Is it to open up
the straits so that gas parts ultimately come down?
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Maybe everything? I mean both of those things, certainly and more.
We can't let a country blackmail or extort the world,
because that's what they're doing. They're really black bailing the world.
We're not going to let that happen. And you know
the amazing thing is, we don't can you believe this,
We don't use this, we don't need this share.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
We have our own oil and gas much more than
we need. We have more oil and gas than Saudi Arabia.
Think of this.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
We produce more Saudi Arabia and add Russia to it
substantially more, and by.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Next year we'll have double that amount, so we don't
need it, but the world needs it. And many ships are.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Heading to our country right now as we speak, to
load up with the best. Really, I guess you could
say somebody said the best and sweetest. I don't know
exactly what sweet is, but when it relates to oil,
it's a good thing. But they're coming to our country
right now. There are many boats coming to our country now.
It could very well be this is going to be
settled before that. We've been called this morning by the
(27:52):
right people, the appropriate people, and they want to work
a deal.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
They would like to work a deal. Is it your anticipation,
mister President, that all the countries.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Well in this effort, those other countries are going to
as we don't need other countries, frankly, but they've offered
the services.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
We'll let it. We'll let it be known probably tomorrow. Yeah,
started at ten o'clock.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
And support to you and your policy creation you for
defending really industry downs.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Leo and politize. No, I don't because Popolio said things
that are wrong.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
He was very much against what I'm doing with with
regard to Iran, and you cannot have a nuclear Iran
Popolio would not be happy.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
With the end result.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
You have hundreds of millions of people dead and it's
not going.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
To happen, so I can't.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I think he's very weak on crime and other things,
so I'm not I mean, he he went public.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
I'm just responding to Popolio.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
And you know, his brother is a big Maga person
and he's a great guy, Lewis, And I said, I
like Lewis better than I could Pope.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Now, you have to have a law and order in
our country, and that's what we have.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Now.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
We have the lowest crime numbers we've had in a
long time, despite the fact that many criminals were allowed
into our country, but we've gotten.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
A lot of them out. We've done a great job
on crime.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
So we have the lowest murder rate in one hundred
and twenty five years since nineteen hundred, the lowest murder rate.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
So we believe strongly in law and order. And he
seemed to have a problem with that, so there's nothing
to apologize for. He's wrong. And the other thing is
he didn't like what we're doing with respect to Iran.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
But Iran is a wants to be a nuclear nation,
so they can exterminate the world not going to happen.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
And he's rod, but I supply.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Deal is not reached by the end of this Inspire.
Is your direct from before still scared?
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Yeah, I don't want to comment on that, but it
won't be pleasant for them. Let me quit it that one.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Has your timetable changed in any way in terms.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Of ending of this conference.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
No, I'm just going it's going on right now. There's
no fighting right now. We have a blockade. They're doing
no business. I didn't like seeing boats come out if
they were doing business with a run, but if they weren't,
no boats came out. So now they're doing Iran is
doing absolutely no business, and we're gonna keep it that
way very easily.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Don't forget.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
The Navy is gone, their air force is gone, their
anti aircraft.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Is gone, their radar is gone, and their leaders are gone.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Let's come back in here. We got to get hit
a commercial break. We're going to continue to run on
this audio from President Trump at the White House. Buck
what stood out to me, and we'll pull this. He
said about the nuclear dust there, uranium, whatever capacity it's
in right now, either they give it up or we
take it, which I thought, is maybe the most significant
(30:59):
thing that I heard so far.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Again, we haven't been able to listen to it all. Yeah,
that means this operation involving substantial ground troops and the
whole thing is on the table, Yes, full stop on
that is on the table, which let me just say,
Trump sounds like he is committed to finishing off the
Iranian threat. Come hell or high water, no doubt. And
(31:23):
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Speaker 2 (32:49):
Okay, President Trump continuing to speak. He's talking about the
UFC fight right now. I don't know exactly what led
to that question, but I do want to play. I
believe we have the cut, which is the most significant
statement I've seen so far on the nuclear dust as
he called it, either they give it up or we
take it cut thirty five over the fact.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
That they will never have a nuclear weapon. Aren you
mark it down.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Iren will not have a nuclear weapon, and we agree
to a lot of things, but they didn't agree to that,
and I think they will agree to it.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
I'm almost sure of it. In fact, I am sure
of it. If they don't agree, there's no deal. They'll
never be a deal.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Iren will not have a nuclear weapon, and we're going
to get the dust back. We'll get it back, either
we'll get it back from them or we'll take it.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
So I haven't heard a follow up question of that.
Sometimes I get frustrated by the morons that are in
the media because they don't even notice the most significant
things that are said and follow up with it. Because
he might not answer the question, but him saying either
they will give it up or we will take it
is exactly how we open the program. Buck with you
and I agree that Iran can ant give up their
(34:01):
new They might say publicly, as they have said before, hey,
we're you know, not going to pursue nuclear weapons, but
the idea that they would hand over the existing uranium,
it's not a starter.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
It's a non starter. This is this is an intractable
part of them to go. This is why I've been
saying there's not going to be a deal. Everybody, Okay,
because we're saying they have to give up the uranium.
I'm telling you there's zero chance they're going to give
up the uranium willingly. Zero. It's not happening because that
would mean because if they were willing to do that,
why have we gone through all of this? Why have
we been doing all this?
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
This is the the whole thing comes down to that.
Keithan from Melbourne, Florida. This is g on the talkbacks.
Hit it the fuck is correct on this one. It
would be really stupid for us to try to extract
that uranium.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
They have a half a million men under arms, as
Buck said, they would be laying in wait for us.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Now, to be clear, I didn't say it was stupid.
I said it would be tough and quite an operation.
But do I think it's within the US military's capability
to pull this off? Probably? I mean what would happen
is whatever entrenched soldiers, et cetera they would have around
these sites, we would lay waste them from the air,
which we can do. That's the thing. They can't just
(35:22):
camp out there because if they just camp out there,
we're going to pound them from the air. So they'd
have to have ways of having a quick reaction for
us nearby that we can't get at. You know, they're
going to put surface their missile sites, clay things like that.
But that's I think where you know, the military planning
on this could be pretty next level. What I'll also
(35:44):
say is, if our goal is we.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Have to know that they're not going to have nuclear weapons,
they why all the time, So the only way to
ensure is to get this. I think Trump wants it cinematically.
I don't think they will give it up. Here's the
other part of this buck that I think is signific Again,
a lot of those nuclear locations are isolated, so it's
not as if they were creating the nuclear weapons in
(36:08):
the middle of downtown Tehran. They mostly were remote. We
will break down all of this and more when we
come back. We got a couple of more cuts for
you from President Trump in the Oval office. I will
say stock market has all turned positive on his comments
as there does not seem to be a great deal
of panic over the blockade being put in place. And
(36:32):
we'll continue to take your call. You're kind of the
anti panikin you know this.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Take take two of Clay with a glass of water,
and your panikin disappears.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I feel good about it. We'll see whether I'm a
moron or not. Eventually, the next hour fall well, the
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