May 8, 2026 • 36 mins
In Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton deliver a fast-paced and wide-ranging discussion centered on breaking political developments, national security intrigue, economic optimism, and the ongoing battle over congressional control ahead of the 2026 midterm elections. This first hour of the program opens with Buck recounting a recent Washington, D.C. event attended by top U.S. intelligence and national security officials, setting up a headline-grabbing conversation about newly emerging UFO and extraterrestrial disclosure claims. The hosts highlight growing speculation that upcoming government releases could reshape public understanding of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs), with insiders hinting that the revelations may be significant.
The conversation quickly pivots to one of the biggest political stories of the day: a major Virginia Supreme Court ruling on congressional redistricting, which the hosts frame as a decisive victory for Republicans. The court struck down a Democratic-led redistricting effort that would have heavily favored Democrats, instead restoring a more balanced congressional map. Clay and Buck emphasize that this ruling could dramatically impact the balance of power in the House of Representatives, potentially returning several key seats to the GOP and increasing Republican chances of maintaining control. They analyze how this decision fits into a broader nationwide redistricting battle, with multiple states—including Florida, Tennessee, Alabama, and South Carolina—implementing or considering new maps following recent court rulings.
A key theme throughout Hour 1 is the strategic importance of gerrymandering, election law, and judicial intervention in determining political outcomes. The hosts argue that procedural legal decisions are increasingly shaping the electoral map and, by extension, the future of national governance. They frame the Virginia case as evidence of how narrow judicial margins—sometimes a single judge—can determine billions of dollars in political investment and potentially alter control of Congress.
Looking ahead, Clay and Buck discuss the long-term implications of population shifts and the upcoming 2030 U.S. Census, noting that migration from blue states to red states could further shift congressional representation in favor of Republicans. They highlight concerns among Democrats about losing electoral advantages in both the House and the Electoral College as demographic and geographic trends continue to evolve.
In addition to politics, Hour 1 features a strong focus on the U.S. economy, with the hosts pointing to positive data as evidence of economic strength under current leadership. They cite strong job growth numbers, with higher-than-expected employment gains, and emphasize a booming stock market that has reached new highs. The discussion includes analysis of how the S&P 500 has surged significantly over the past year, reinforcing claims of a “rip-roaring” job market and robust investor confidence. Clay also underscores the importance of long-term investing, advocating for index funds and market participation as key strategies for wealth building.
However, the hosts acknowledge a disconnect between market performance and public perception, noting that many Americans gauge the economy based on everyday costs such as gas prices and inflation. They emphasize the political importance of lowering gas prices before the midterms, tying energy costs directly to voter sentiment and election outcomes. This leads into a broader discussion of U.S. energy independence, with the hosts highlighting increased domestic oil production as a buffer against global price shocks and geopolitical instability.
Foreign policy also enters the conversation, particularly regarding tensions with Iran and their potential economic impact. The hosts express skepticism about the likelihood of a near-term diplomatic breakthrough, suggesting that ongoing uncertainty in the Middle East could continue to influence oil prices and global markets.
The hour also includes live remarks from President Donald Trump, touching on issues such as border security, immigration enforcement, and infrastructure projects, including efforts to restore national landmarks. The hosts use these remarks to reinforce themes of governance priorities and public messaging heading into an election cycle.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Clay and Book Show Friday edition. Thanks
for being here, everybody. I am back from our nation's capital.
Had a nice time there, Independent Women's Forum, Gala, play.
Coming to us from the Clay Homestead in Tennessee, and
a lot to discuss with all of you. We first
tell you so there's a big win for Republicans we're
(00:23):
about to dive into, which is great something else that.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
We should be discussing there to play.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We'll be having this as part of the ongoing discussion
today and thereafter.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
So last night we were at.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I'm at this event and I see FBI Director Cash Batal,
He's actually sitting across the table from me, and I
see the Deputy Director of National Intelligence, Secretary of War
Hegseth was there, the acting Attorney General was there, a
lot of folks, A lot of the folks got to
chat with her. With Mike rowe Man, that guy has
a good voice, by the way, you know, game respects
(01:00):
and that's a guy with a good voice for radio
and podcasting everything else.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Also a super nice.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Individual who's doing some really important stuff with his micro works.
But it was interesting because I had a feeling people
are talking about some things, and you know, there's like
the everyone's there a part this is not a policy
this part of at least not a policy forum. Everyone's
there just have a good time, have some champagna, eat
(01:26):
some steak, dance a little bit. Cash's girlfriend Alexis was
providing the band, you know, the musical company at the
evening once we got through with the main program. But
there's a lot of people talking about something and I'm like,
what what's going on, guys? You know, and they're like,
oh man, I'm thinking in my head, Clay, Iran is
(01:48):
is what. There's got to be something that's going to happen.
Maybe there's a deal, or maybe there are strikes or whatever.
But like they wouldn't be I wouldn't be hearing the
murmuring from the top national security officials of our government
if any thing bad was about or if anything I
should say, you know, military.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Is gonna happen in Iran? What's going on? Guys?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
As I finally just said, what's going on? Said Buck,
do you believe in UFOs? It's a conversation I had
with one of them, and I was like, no, not really.
I think it's I think there's sometimes there's like a
blip on the screen, you know, a little bit like
there's a fly in the ointment.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Who cares, Clay.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Some of this stuff has come out today, But I
have been told by the top national security officials of
our government just put it that way, that I'm going
to start to change my mind as more of this
comes out.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
That is what I have been told. That's a lot
of a blockbuster. So let me let me recap this.
You went to Washington, DC and set with for dinner
many of the leading intelligence officials in the United States government,
and I.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Directed that a number two in the intel community, Pete
and I the Secuary war.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
We all caught up.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
So these are the guys at the top of the
national security pyramid, other than, of course, the commander in chief.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
So and again, President Trump, the new files are beginning
to be Really we're going to have Tim Burchett, Congressman
from Tennessee, who says he's seen this. He told me
on Twitter this mon morning that it would that as
all this came out, it would be a holy crap moment.
That was my phrase that he echoed, not his own.
So are you now signing with me? Because we've we've
(03:17):
had this discussion over the last five years. I believe
that alien life exists, and I think it has visited
at some point in time the Earth. Are you now
signing on with me or you withholding judgment until these
files start to be released. Oh, I'm definitely withholding judgment.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, I'm I am going to be a curmudgeon on
this one until I see some really interesting stuff. I
will just say this though, they the big the big
dogs present last night because they can talk about this
because of course the big disclosure or some of the
disclosure happened today, So this was all planned out. But
they said just wait, and these are people who have
seen everything. Just wait until you see what's coming. So
(03:54):
I find that interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I'm not and not crazy. The these are not crazy
conspiracy lady. I mean these are reasonable, rational security experts.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Uh yeah, the people who run the national security of
the United States. So we'll see what comes out. We'll
talk more about what what is out because there has
been a big drop today from the UFO stuff, and
we'll have a discussion about what what's there. But actually,
because some of you are probably already jumping out of
your seats on this one.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
A huge, huge, win.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
For Republicans courtesy of the Virginia State Supreme Court Clay Virginia,
and there's there's the Virginia component of this, and then
there's the national gerrymandering fight. As we know, Virginia went
basically ten to ten to one, completely completely went score
(04:50):
shurth to make it seem like there's no Republicans who
should have any representation in Congress in the state of Virginia.
And that then kicked off, which we'll get into it
a second. Republicans saying, oh, two can play that game.
But the big thing here is that the State Supreme
Court in Virginia said, yeah, actually, guys, you can't do that.
(05:11):
What you did is under the Virginia Constitution, the Commonwealth
of Virginia Constitution. It is illegal. You cannot change the
map the way you did. You did not follow procedure.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Clay.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
This puts a whole handful of seats back into the
Republican column just in time for the mid terms. Exciting stuff.
Very sad for Democrats. We are drinking their tears today.
This is a very big win. I'm surprised that Virginia
Supreme Court was willing to do this. Read the opinion
that just came down about an hour and a half
(05:45):
ago thereabouts. And the big impact here is they're going
back to the map that already existed, which had a
Democrat six to five lead instead of a Democrat ten
to one lead in the redone map that barely passed
in Virginia. Now, there are all sorts of statements coming out.
(06:05):
Hakeem Jeffrey says, they're going to appeal. Well, you're going
to appeal to the.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
US Supreme Court, and the US Supreme Court is going
to overturn the Virginia Supreme Court applying Virginia law.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I don't think that that's a very likely outcome.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
This is locked and loaded and it's a big win
for the good guys here. Now Democrats are still favored
to win back control of Congress, but Republicans are going
to win the redistricting battle, and this is looking like
a catastrophe for Democrats.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
We will wait and see.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
There are all sorts of lawsuits being filed in other states.
Florida has implemented a new state map that would go
twenty four to four Republicans. Tennessee has implemented a new
map that would go nine to zero for Republicans. Alabama, Louisiana,
South Carolina, all of those states could potentially act before
(07:09):
the midterms as well. They're having different special legislative sessions,
so we will have a series of decisions coming down
in a variety of state courts about what and what
is not allowed to be done. Given how close we
are to the actual midterms, But looking at the prediction markets,
(07:29):
the odds that Republicans would win have increased substantially since
this ruling came out and Republicans in the House. The
chances again these are on the prediction markets Calshi polymarket,
the chances of a Republican House have have hit their
highest point since November of last year. So we're at
(07:51):
six month ish, seven month ish highs of expectations. We're
six months out effectively from the midi so a lot
can change, a lot can happen, and we basically live
in a fifty to fifty house environment we have for
some time now. So it's going to come down to
a few swing districts. But it's looking like Republicans the
(08:13):
momentum is moving in a good direction. Now, there's still
tons right, There's lots of stories that come up and
we say, oh boy, this is going to be a
really big factor in the midterms. Remember when everybody was
saying what happened in Minnesota. Nothing that happened in Minnesota
is going to impact anything that happens in the midterms,
(08:33):
I don't think, meaning the ice raids. And we'll see
what happens with Iran. Buck if Iran kind of starts
to tamp down and we get a resolution, there's four
or five more months of other major stories that could
come up. We'll see what the price of oil and
gas is, all these things. But the good guys, I think,
have had a really good few days since this few
(08:55):
weeks since the Supreme Court Calais, Louisiana ruling came down.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
So the Democrats threw a sucker punch at Virginia Republicans,
which then it's like a bar fight started. Then Republicans
elsewhere started throwing elbows and head butts, And now we
find out the sucker punch they threw in Virginia missed. Yeah,
so it's a it's a big l for these Democrats
(09:23):
on this one. And it was just interesting to see Clay,
you know, it was a four to three. I'm always
so curious about this stuff. A four to three decision
by the Virginia State Supreme Court on this one. So
it was narrow, and I was looking through the the
descent and they just.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Are their position.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It's it's a little bit of the Catangi Brown Jackson
view of come on, man, these are just technicalities. Doesn't
that tell you everything when a judge is saying, yeah,
that's what the law says. But this is you're being
too procedural. You're being too technical about it's an election.
There are rules to change the map within a time frame.
(10:04):
You know, they discounted a Trump a Trump US attorney
because she was not and by the way, they were right,
she was not appointed within the necessary time frame. You
could do this any You can do this any time
on it, especially something that this isn't a murder investigation,
our murder trial.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Elections are all procedural. The whole thing is the procedures.
So to say that you're being too deep in the
weeds on the procedures, Let's let the Democrats run the
table and take all these Republicans votes away, effectively nullify
their votes. It's just kind of funny to show you
that there are all of these partisans in the judiciary
(10:43):
all over the country, Virginia, all over the Ninth Circuit, Federal, everywhere.
They'll just make it up as they go along to
get the outcome they want. This was a close call,
and it shouldn't have been close because the playing language
says what they did is not within the statute to
change these districts.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
What I would expect for people out there, I would
expect that Virginia will try to implement this map for
twenty twenty eight, and they will go back and they
will try to address some of the issues that the
Virginia Supreme Court has put in place. But by twenty
twenty eight, what I would say in general, buck is,
first of all, they barely pass this thing. They won
(11:22):
by three points. I think it was fifty one to
forty eight, so lots of people were not in favor
of this.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I do think it's.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Going to be harder for them to mobilize the anti
Trump element of their base, which they essentially convinced had
to do this in order to save democracy, when Trump's
not on the ballot anymore. Right, So I do wonder
whether this is going to die down in a significant
way and here's something else that is super huge on
(11:53):
the horizon. The twenty thirty census is going to be
the ultimate redraw of the entire name because Democrat states
are going to lose a bunch of congressional seats. So
many people have moved to Florida, the Texas's, the Tennessee,
so many people have left blue states for red states
(12:14):
that that is potentially going to be a huge issue.
They're probably going to lose ten or twelve House seats
just based on that in thirty.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Here's the other thing.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I think there's a possibility that the twenty thirty census,
depending on who is in power, says it's unconstitutional to
count illegal immigrants for purposes of congressional redistricting. If that
also is layered on top of this, Democrats are facing
They always like to use the word existential when it
(12:44):
comes to climate Democrats in the House are facing an
existential crisis. And let me sum it up for you, Buck.
The only way Kamala could have won in twenty twenty
four was putting together Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin and running
the table. She would have won two seventy to two
sixty eight in the Electoral College if she had had
(13:06):
that opportunity after twenty twenty eight, that pathway will not
exist anymore. Even if Democrats win the so called blue Wall,
which obviously has crumbled twice with Trump of Michigan, Wisconsin,
and Pennsylvania, the math doesn't add up. They still would
have to win Arizona, they would have to win Georgia,
they would have to win North Carolina. The map increasingly
(13:30):
is going to move to red states, and Democrats are
going to have to win some of those. If you
look ahead a few years, which is what I think
smart people should be doing. This is there's a lot
of there should be a great deal of fear and
trepidation on that side over the way the maps are
(13:50):
going to look in the years ahead. But this is
a big win, there's no doubt. And speaking of speaking
of the challenges that are out there, this would actually
be I think really important and really significant if we
could actually get peace in the Middle East. Obviously we're
all rooting for this, we're all rooting for there to
be safety for everybody in the Middle East. But in
(14:12):
the meantime, there's still missiles, there are still bombs going off,
there's still terror, attacks. The International Fellowship of Christians and
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They are trying to give food to those in need.
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Speaker 2 (15:14):
Last, learn and hang with the guys. Clay and Buck
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Speaker 3 (15:20):
Welcome back in Play Travis buck Sexton show. Panic setting
in among Democrats. This is a headline from Axios House
Democrats to axios on Virginia. Damn, California and Virginia were
supposed to be our bigger ones. F lots of exclamation
(15:43):
points you might be able to fill in the blanks. Sickening, deflating,
and Buck, I was just telling you this off air.
How many millions is a quote from a House Democrat?
How many millions are we spending on this when the
DNC is in debt and we have forty front races
to win? Reports are Buck, They spent seventy million dollars
(16:06):
on this referendum which has now been struck down one judge.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
The difference of one judge in Virginia State Supreme Court
Clay going against this is now seventy million dollars of
Democrat political money up in smoke. And what five Republican
congressional seats that may be in the R force, R
four that may be in the R column, which who
(16:36):
knows could even be the difference between control. Yeah, so
it's a big deal. This one judge. It was a
four to three decision. Seven judges. One judge in Virginia
State Court could have been the difference here. And I
know you look at the ramifications of it, it can
be a completely different situation for the Trump administration. Therefore,
(16:57):
the whole country, everybody. Theoretically, I'm saying, as this place out,
we'll see how close the midterms are. But Clay, if
you have a Democrat controlled House, we all know this,
it just turns into impeachment three point zero chaos, gridlock,
dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Look, they're gonna try this again. But if you look
at the Louisiana v. Cal A decision or Calai versus Louisiana,
I think there's a very strong chance here that we're
going to see Republicans pick up about ten seats. Now again,
the state courts are going to rule, and the state
Supreme courts in some of these states may also toss
(17:34):
in the short term these districts. But the odds of
Republicans winning the House this morning and this afternoon are
a lot higher than they were yesterday as a result
of this Virginia Supreme Court decision.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
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Speaker 5 (19:01):
We like giving you good news because You're hanging out
with us for hours a day, and we got to
tell you what's going on, but also got to keep
it all in perspective.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
So I'm gonna shed I'm gonna put a little optimism
in the mix here, shed a little light on the car.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
That's right. You must have.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
You must have had a great Thursday. It's Friday. You're
starting off the show feeling good. All right, let me
hear it. I'm excited to hear this.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Kerrie and I had espresso Martini's last night, I will
have you know, and.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
They're good. Huh. Those things are fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I know some of your saying my man card went
down with the martini, but you know what, it was delicious.
I'm not gonna fight it. I enjoyed every bit of it.
It was quite tasty. Even had little espresso beans in
the martini. So good news on the economy. C NBC's
Rick Santelli, This is cut wand telling you one hundred
(19:57):
and fifteen thousand jobs at it Boom hit it the.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Big job jobs report for April sixty five thousand expected. Nay, nay, nay,
we are much stronger. One hundred and fifteen thousand and
one one five and last month upward revision from one
seventy eight to one eighty five. These are good numbers, Clay.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
We've also got any National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett
talking about these job numbers a little more detail on
this before we unpack it all and perhaps do a
little victory lap for the MAGA MAGA economy play.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
Two two months in a row now we've had blockbuster
jobs numbers. And the really interesting thing is that we
look at these things that you guys do too, i'm sure,
called heat maps where you look by category it like
where's the green and whar's the red? And pretty much
it was green across the board. And so what it
means is it's a rip run jobs market. And it's
completely consistent with what we saw with the claim data
just a few days ago, right like initial claims front
(20:58):
and plumba urns right now are the lowest since we've
ever been counting member all the way back to the
nineteen sixties, and so the job market is really, really, really.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Strong, Clay, how are you feeling about things there, buddy?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Great?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
And again let me kind of contextualize first of all,
the S and P five hundred just hit another record high.
It's gone over seventy four hundred and far be it
for me to pat us on the back. As you know,
I hate to give us credit, but I will say
this is kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Buck.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
The S and P five hundred fell to five thousand
last April.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
So when they.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Told you that Trump was going to tank the economy,
when they tried to get everybody to panic again, this
is last April. If you merely bought stock in last April,
you're now up nearly fifty percent on your S and
P five hundred holdings since last April, when they told
you that the stock market was going to collapse, if
(22:02):
you just held on, if you just held on, if
you didn't look at your four to h one k
at all, if you haven't paid attention to it for
some time, everyone is rolling. Who has stock now? Whenever
I say this, people say, well, not everybody has stock.
That is true. I would encourage you, Buck, I think
you would sign off on this too. Everybody has to
(22:25):
start somewhere. Having investments in the future of America and
American companies is smart, in my opinion, a super easy
way to do it. Sn P five hundred index funds.
You don't have to pick individual stocks. You are then
just buying an index of the five hundred biggest companies,
(22:46):
and over time you're going to make about nine percent
a year. So what has happened since last April is extraordinary.
We have rarely seen a stock market this white hot.
Now so star somewhere again. You don't have to agree
with me on anything, just please trust me on this.
For your kids, for you. You don't have to be
(23:08):
a billionaire. You don't have to be a millionaire. If
you start young and you put away money every month,
I can almost guarantee you that after forty or fifty years,
you will in fact be a millionaire if you continue
to put money away and let the market work for you. Now,
oftentimes the stock market is six months or a year
ahead of where people feel the stock market is. It
(23:31):
is a forward looking environmental indicator, and so I understand
people out there who say, well, I haven't felt it
yet in my life. I understand that this is one
of the challenges that I think exists over the next
six months. Buck is you have to simultaneously tell people, hey,
things are getting better, while also recognizing that if people
(23:54):
don't feel that things are getting better, yet you appear
to them to be out of touch. This is why
a lot of people use the cost of a gallon
of gas as a rough approximator of how things are going.
Which is why if the Trump White House were asking
me for advice, by the way, I'll be there Monday,
I would be saying, Hey, let's get this situation in
(24:16):
Iran resolved. You can use the buck Sexton mow the
grass strategy next year after the elections, when Trump's off
the ballot if you need to, but get the price
of a gallon of gas back down close to three
dollars on average, and I think that will be a
good economic indicator to further reflect what's going on in
the market.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Not going to be any Iran deal, folks, just so
you know, just not happening. There's going to be a
deal to talk about the deal because now the political
cycle in this country is kicking in. Is that a
huge problem for Trump or for being middle least, No,
not necessarily. There's reason to believe that that's actually the
(24:56):
smartest I think it's the only position they can really
take right now unless they're going to do this thing
Clay where they destroy the Iranian oil economy in a
permanent way, and I don't know that they really want
to do that. That can have some ramifications because now
you're talking about impoverishing the whole country, essentially everybody in
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the country. I'm not sure they're going to do that.
That would be my thing, but they're also not about
to get a deal done. So but it's all going
to be okay everybody. Maybe it's because it's Friday. We're
going to figure this out.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I would also just point out I think that the
economic cataclysm, not only that was predicted last April, but
even the oil and gas prices being up, it has
not had a cataclysmic impact on our economy. And I
think to a big reason. For a big reason that
is the fact that we now are producing I think
I saw the number the other day, eight point two
(25:54):
million barrels of oil every day. Last month. I came
on and I said, hey, things are a lot different
in America now that we are energy and dependent. When
oil prices go up, instead of all that money leaving
our country and running off to the Middle East, a
ton of it now comes back here. And that makes
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a tremendous difference in terms of our economic independence, but
also in our economic growth rate. Prices are too high,
they need to come back. But when they do go up,
we actually benefit now. Like back in the day, only
Middle Eastern countries in Russia, for instance, in Venezuela would
benefit Trump.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Right, can we pick up Trump live here in a
second play? I think he's saying some words about, as
we all know, the Mother's Day.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
Country into the strongest border in American history. We have
no people come in during the last eleven months.
Speaker 9 (26:48):
We have zero. Zero. Nobody even tries to come up.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
You know, you used to read about the thousands of
people that would pour in and they'd just come up
in caravan.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
And I came I think it was my name I
came up with. It looked like a.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
Caravan twenty five thirty thousand people pouring up.
Speaker 9 (27:06):
They walk through Mexico.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
They come from all different locations, come from all over
the world, actually, but they came in through a southern
border and they'd come up and just let them walk in.
Speaker 9 (27:18):
Nobody had any idea who they were.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
They were murders, eleven eight hundred and eighty eight murderers.
Speaker 9 (27:24):
They were allowed to come into our country. We've gotten
a lot of them out, many of them murdered more
than one person.
Speaker 8 (27:31):
What a shame, What a disgusting shame that people can
even think that this is okay is pretty incredible. But
for the past twelve months we've had that's been our number.
And these numbers are done by people that the numbers
when they when I say zero, I actually mean zero.
It's hard to believe, actually, but they're done by people
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that are They tend to be somewhat on the left,
so they're not going to give us a fair shake.
Speaker 9 (27:59):
And they say that, you.
Speaker 8 (28:01):
Know, people don't come anymore because they know they're not
going to get through. So when they know they're not
going to get through, they just don't come.
Speaker 9 (28:06):
And just on that. We save a lot of lives because.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
That journey up from Honduras and El Salvador and lots
of other countries, or from the Congo where they drop
them there and they walk up and they come through
our country. They emptied the prisons of the Congo into
the area of the southern border and then told them
to just walk in because stupid Americans are going to
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accept you beautifully. And these were hard, mean, vicious criminals
they allowed into our country. How anybody can vote for
these people? It's hard to believe. Okay, it's hard to believe.
But to a friend of mine, Maryanne Mendoza, Marianne, where
is marian Where are you? Marian I got to know
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you right from the beginning, right And I won't ask
her that, but I would often ask is it easier
with time?
Speaker 9 (28:59):
Because time is gone by Mary? And no it's not.
Sadly it's not. You know you always here with time
and time.
Speaker 8 (29:06):
And but a lot of people say it's not. It's
not easier. But you're a special woman. I've gotten to
be a friend of yours. You're a special woman. What
you have to go through is disgraceful, Tammy.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
We'll continue to monitor what Trump is saying here, but
he's really he's with Trump, you always get the whole package, right.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
He talks about a whole range of things.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
But we have a Mother's Day coming up on Sunday,
and so he is honoring mothers as part of his
discussion there. Back to where we are with with your
on the economy and how it's all looking. I just now,
Clay hope that the GOP really dials in the messaging
on affordability and letting people understand or helping people understand
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that the more robust the economy when it comes to hiring,
when it comes to wages, people's four one ks. All
of these different factors and metrics. That's certainly helpful for
some of the high prices you've seen. And the gas
price is coming down, and I believe they will be
coming down here pretty soon. The gas prices coming down
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will also add to that. So it's very early. We're
not even in summer yet, but this is going to
be the focus from now to November.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
And look, I would just point out it wasn't very
long ago that egg prices was obsessively covered on the news.
Now eggs are, to my understanding, and I am not
the expert when it comes to purchasing eggs, but I
believe that eggs are back down lower than they've been
for a long time. And I think you're going to
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see the price of a gallon of gas by the
time we get to Labor Day. I've said this before,
I'll say it again. I think it'll be back to
three dollars a gallon.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I really do.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Now you can clip this we could see whether I'm
correct or not. It's about four point fifty. Now, what
was your peers Morgan show bet?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Was it that the stock market was going to be
up from where it was in January of twenty six
and the price of gas would be down? And if
you were wrong, you were going to dance around in
a chicken shoot and say.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
That sec football sucks? Like what was it? You were
gonna something? Though, I'm very confident.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Evidently Producer Ali is out celebrating Mother's Day with her mother,
a lovely mom, a bit early, but she has note
cards on this the stock market I am destroying. I
said in April of last year, ap pears, I guarantee
you the stock market will be up compared to where
it is in April of last year. It's now up
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twenty four hundred points, so it's up almost fifty percent
from where it was last year when the panic was
going on. Producer Ali says, I also said gas would
be cheaper, which looked like brilliant until we went to
war in Iran. And now that one, I think it's
in October. Now that one is going to be close.
I have to wear a clown nose. I have to
(31:57):
wear a clown nose if I'm wrong about the price
of gas. So producer Ali has this, and so the
stock market. If you listened to me, you're going to
be making a bundle. We'll see about whether or not
I have to wear the the clown knows over the
price of price of gas. I didn't remember saying the
price of gas, but she says that I did, and
there's audio, So that was one.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I should have just said stocks. I would have looked
like a genius.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Instead, I might look partly like a genius and also
partly like an idiot.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Which is probably par for the course. If you ask my.
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Speaker 2 (33:31):
Pre cent your pals, Clain Buck on the iHeart at
Thank you so much, Christ the President. You aren't here
against the backdrop of the war in Iran? Why focus
on all these projects right now?
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (33:42):
I don't want to keep our country beautiful and safe.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, beautiful?
Speaker 9 (33:47):
Change anything we're fishing up?
Speaker 8 (33:49):
Do you reflecting pond to the Lincoln Memorial, the Washington Monument.
Speaker 9 (33:54):
And you say, why are you fixating up?
Speaker 8 (33:56):
Because you can understand Derk may be better than I can,
but I don't allow it. This is one of the
worst reporters. She's with ABC Faith Dudes, and she's a
horror show. She's saying, why would you bother fixing this up.
Why would I bother taking eleven or twelve truck.
Speaker 9 (34:12):
Cloves of filth out of the water in front of
the Lincoln Monument. That's what made our country great. Beauty
made our country. People made our country great. A question
like that is a disgrace to our country.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
So President Trump, Buck, still, this is very Trump. This
is a mother's a Mother's Day address. And President Trump,
I don't know if you saw the video yesterday.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
We even discussed it on the program. He's trying to
fix the reflecting pool in front of the Lincoln Memorial,
which he says, and I do think there's some truth
to this, having been by it a lot, it has
become filthy and he wants it to look more beautiful.
So yesterday he took the Secret Service and they went
on a tour of the reflecting pool, which has been drained,
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and he has some of his pool guys that are
in there trying to figure out a way to make
it more beautiful. And he got questioned about why he's
doing it, and he is obviously teeing off.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
About his goal.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
It is kind of wild, Buck, how much he's trying
to fix all at once. All over the country in
all respects. I mean, it's pretty crazy about a projects
he's underway with right now.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Can I address one of these quickly here?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Clay VIP listener guy writes Buck, I never heard that
martinis weren't manly. They have a high alcohol content, and
James Bond drinks Martini's. Well Guy, yes, but I'm talking
espresso Martinis my friend, and I'm talking to Martini with
some espresso thrown into it and some coffee Liqueur, which
(35:50):
I don't know. Clay a man card points deducted for
Espresso martiniz it's not an appletini.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I mean it has taken off in popularity.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
One of our friends been that we've been out with
quite a lot orders Espresso Martini rounds with every opportunity
that he can.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
It is a nice.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Little pick me up if you're out and need a
little bit of a caffeine rush.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
We'll come back update you more on Virginia and more
speaking truth and having fun. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
Welcome to the Clay and Book Show Friday edition. Thanks
for being here, everybody. I am back from our nation's capital.
Had a nice time there, Independent Women's Forum, Gala, play.
Coming to us from the Clay Homestead in Tennessee, and
a lot to discuss with all of you. We first
tell you so there's a big win for Republicans we're
(00:23):
about to dive into, which is great something else that.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
We should be discussing there to play.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We'll be having this as part of the ongoing discussion
today and thereafter.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
So last night we were at.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I'm at this event and I see FBI Director Cash Batal,
He's actually sitting across the table from me, and I
see the Deputy Director of National Intelligence, Secretary of War
Hegseth was there, the acting Attorney General was there, a
lot of folks, A lot of the folks got to
chat with her. With Mike rowe Man, that guy has
a good voice, by the way, you know, game respects
(01:00):
and that's a guy with a good voice for radio
and podcasting everything else.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Also a super nice.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Individual who's doing some really important stuff with his micro works.
But it was interesting because I had a feeling people
are talking about some things, and you know, there's like
the everyone's there a part this is not a policy
this part of at least not a policy forum. Everyone's
there just have a good time, have some champagna, eat
(01:26):
some steak, dance a little bit. Cash's girlfriend Alexis was
providing the band, you know, the musical company at the
evening once we got through with the main program. But
there's a lot of people talking about something and I'm like,
what what's going on, guys? You know, and they're like,
oh man, I'm thinking in my head, Clay, Iran is
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is what. There's got to be something that's going to happen.
Maybe there's a deal, or maybe there are strikes or whatever.
But like they wouldn't be I wouldn't be hearing the
murmuring from the top national security officials of our government
if any thing bad was about or if anything I
should say, you know, military.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Is gonna happen in Iran? What's going on? Guys?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
As I finally just said, what's going on? Said Buck,
do you believe in UFOs? It's a conversation I had
with one of them, and I was like, no, not really.
I think it's I think there's sometimes there's like a
blip on the screen, you know, a little bit like
there's a fly in the ointment.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Who cares, Clay.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Some of this stuff has come out today, But I
have been told by the top national security officials of
our government just put it that way, that I'm going
to start to change my mind as more of this
comes out.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
That is what I have been told. That's a lot
of a blockbuster. So let me let me recap this.
You went to Washington, DC and set with for dinner
many of the leading intelligence officials in the United States government,
and I.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Directed that a number two in the intel community, Pete
and I the Secuary war.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
We all caught up.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
So these are the guys at the top of the
national security pyramid, other than, of course, the commander in chief.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
So and again, President Trump, the new files are beginning
to be Really we're going to have Tim Burchett, Congressman
from Tennessee, who says he's seen this. He told me
on Twitter this mon morning that it would that as
all this came out, it would be a holy crap moment.
That was my phrase that he echoed, not his own.
So are you now signing with me? Because we've we've
(03:17):
had this discussion over the last five years. I believe
that alien life exists, and I think it has visited
at some point in time the Earth. Are you now
signing on with me or you withholding judgment until these
files start to be released. Oh, I'm definitely withholding judgment.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, I'm I am going to be a curmudgeon on
this one until I see some really interesting stuff. I
will just say this though, they the big the big
dogs present last night because they can talk about this
because of course the big disclosure or some of the
disclosure happened today, So this was all planned out. But
they said just wait, and these are people who have
seen everything. Just wait until you see what's coming. So
(03:54):
I find that interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I'm not and not crazy. The these are not crazy
conspiracy lady. I mean these are reasonable, rational security experts.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Uh yeah, the people who run the national security of
the United States. So we'll see what comes out. We'll
talk more about what what is out because there has
been a big drop today from the UFO stuff, and
we'll have a discussion about what what's there. But actually,
because some of you are probably already jumping out of
your seats on this one.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
A huge, huge, win.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
For Republicans courtesy of the Virginia State Supreme Court Clay Virginia,
and there's there's the Virginia component of this, and then
there's the national gerrymandering fight. As we know, Virginia went
basically ten to ten to one, completely completely went score
(04:50):
shurth to make it seem like there's no Republicans who
should have any representation in Congress in the state of Virginia.
And that then kicked off, which we'll get into it
a second. Republicans saying, oh, two can play that game.
But the big thing here is that the State Supreme
Court in Virginia said, yeah, actually, guys, you can't do that.
(05:11):
What you did is under the Virginia Constitution, the Commonwealth
of Virginia Constitution. It is illegal. You cannot change the
map the way you did. You did not follow procedure.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Clay.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
This puts a whole handful of seats back into the
Republican column just in time for the mid terms. Exciting stuff.
Very sad for Democrats. We are drinking their tears today.
This is a very big win. I'm surprised that Virginia
Supreme Court was willing to do this. Read the opinion
that just came down about an hour and a half
(05:45):
ago thereabouts. And the big impact here is they're going
back to the map that already existed, which had a
Democrat six to five lead instead of a Democrat ten
to one lead in the redone map that barely passed
in Virginia. Now, there are all sorts of statements coming out.
(06:05):
Hakeem Jeffrey says, they're going to appeal. Well, you're going
to appeal to the.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
US Supreme Court, and the US Supreme Court is going
to overturn the Virginia Supreme Court applying Virginia law.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I don't think that that's a very likely outcome.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
This is locked and loaded and it's a big win
for the good guys here. Now Democrats are still favored
to win back control of Congress, but Republicans are going
to win the redistricting battle, and this is looking like
a catastrophe for Democrats.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
We will wait and see.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
There are all sorts of lawsuits being filed in other states.
Florida has implemented a new state map that would go
twenty four to four Republicans. Tennessee has implemented a new
map that would go nine to zero for Republicans. Alabama, Louisiana,
South Carolina, all of those states could potentially act before
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the midterms as well. They're having different special legislative sessions,
so we will have a series of decisions coming down
in a variety of state courts about what and what
is not allowed to be done. Given how close we
are to the actual midterms, But looking at the prediction markets,
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the odds that Republicans would win have increased substantially since
this ruling came out and Republicans in the House. The
chances again these are on the prediction markets Calshi polymarket,
the chances of a Republican House have have hit their
highest point since November of last year. So we're at
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six month ish, seven month ish highs of expectations. We're
six months out effectively from the midi so a lot
can change, a lot can happen, and we basically live
in a fifty to fifty house environment we have for
some time now. So it's going to come down to
a few swing districts. But it's looking like Republicans the
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momentum is moving in a good direction. Now, there's still
tons right, There's lots of stories that come up and
we say, oh boy, this is going to be a
really big factor in the midterms. Remember when everybody was
saying what happened in Minnesota. Nothing that happened in Minnesota
is going to impact anything that happens in the midterms,
(08:33):
I don't think, meaning the ice raids. And we'll see
what happens with Iran. Buck if Iran kind of starts
to tamp down and we get a resolution, there's four
or five more months of other major stories that could
come up. We'll see what the price of oil and
gas is, all these things. But the good guys, I think,
have had a really good few days since this few
(08:55):
weeks since the Supreme Court Calais, Louisiana ruling came down.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
So the Democrats threw a sucker punch at Virginia Republicans,
which then it's like a bar fight started. Then Republicans
elsewhere started throwing elbows and head butts, And now we
find out the sucker punch they threw in Virginia missed. Yeah,
so it's a it's a big l for these Democrats
(09:23):
on this one. And it was just interesting to see Clay,
you know, it was a four to three. I'm always
so curious about this stuff. A four to three decision
by the Virginia State Supreme Court on this one. So
it was narrow, and I was looking through the the
descent and they just.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Are their position.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It's it's a little bit of the Catangi Brown Jackson
view of come on, man, these are just technicalities. Doesn't
that tell you everything when a judge is saying, yeah,
that's what the law says. But this is you're being
too procedural. You're being too technical about it's an election.
There are rules to change the map within a time frame.
(10:04):
You know, they discounted a Trump a Trump US attorney
because she was not and by the way, they were right,
she was not appointed within the necessary time frame. You
could do this any You can do this any time
on it, especially something that this isn't a murder investigation,
our murder trial.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Elections are all procedural. The whole thing is the procedures.
So to say that you're being too deep in the
weeds on the procedures, Let's let the Democrats run the
table and take all these Republicans votes away, effectively nullify
their votes. It's just kind of funny to show you
that there are all of these partisans in the judiciary
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all over the country, Virginia, all over the Ninth Circuit, Federal, everywhere.
They'll just make it up as they go along to
get the outcome they want. This was a close call,
and it shouldn't have been close because the playing language
says what they did is not within the statute to
change these districts.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
What I would expect for people out there, I would
expect that Virginia will try to implement this map for
twenty twenty eight, and they will go back and they
will try to address some of the issues that the
Virginia Supreme Court has put in place. But by twenty
twenty eight, what I would say in general, buck is,
first of all, they barely pass this thing. They won
(11:22):
by three points. I think it was fifty one to
forty eight, so lots of people were not in favor
of this.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I do think it's.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Going to be harder for them to mobilize the anti
Trump element of their base, which they essentially convinced had
to do this in order to save democracy, when Trump's
not on the ballot anymore. Right, So I do wonder
whether this is going to die down in a significant
way and here's something else that is super huge on
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the horizon. The twenty thirty census is going to be
the ultimate redraw of the entire name because Democrat states
are going to lose a bunch of congressional seats. So
many people have moved to Florida, the Texas's, the Tennessee,
so many people have left blue states for red states
(12:14):
that that is potentially going to be a huge issue.
They're probably going to lose ten or twelve House seats
just based on that in thirty.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Here's the other thing.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I think there's a possibility that the twenty thirty census,
depending on who is in power, says it's unconstitutional to
count illegal immigrants for purposes of congressional redistricting. If that
also is layered on top of this, Democrats are facing
They always like to use the word existential when it
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comes to climate Democrats in the House are facing an
existential crisis. And let me sum it up for you, Buck.
The only way Kamala could have won in twenty twenty
four was putting together Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin and running
the table. She would have won two seventy to two
sixty eight in the Electoral College if she had had
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that opportunity after twenty twenty eight, that pathway will not
exist anymore. Even if Democrats win the so called blue Wall,
which obviously has crumbled twice with Trump of Michigan, Wisconsin,
and Pennsylvania, the math doesn't add up. They still would
have to win Arizona, they would have to win Georgia,
they would have to win North Carolina. The map increasingly
(13:30):
is going to move to red states, and Democrats are
going to have to win some of those. If you
look ahead a few years, which is what I think
smart people should be doing. This is there's a lot
of there should be a great deal of fear and
trepidation on that side over the way the maps are
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going to look in the years ahead. But this is
a big win, there's no doubt. And speaking of speaking
of the challenges that are out there, this would actually
be I think really important and really significant if we
could actually get peace in the Middle East. Obviously we're
all rooting for this, we're all rooting for there to
be safety for everybody in the Middle East. But in
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the meantime, there's still missiles, there are still bombs going off,
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Speaker 2 (15:14):
Last, learn and hang with the guys. Clay and Buck
pre set on the iHeart app.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Welcome back in Play Travis buck Sexton show. Panic setting
in among Democrats. This is a headline from Axios House
Democrats to axios on Virginia. Damn, California and Virginia were
supposed to be our bigger ones. F lots of exclamation
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points you might be able to fill in the blanks. Sickening, deflating,
and Buck, I was just telling you this off air.
How many millions is a quote from a House Democrat?
How many millions are we spending on this when the
DNC is in debt and we have forty front races
to win? Reports are Buck, They spent seventy million dollars
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on this referendum which has now been struck down one judge.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
The difference of one judge in Virginia State Supreme Court
Clay going against this is now seventy million dollars of
Democrat political money up in smoke. And what five Republican
congressional seats that may be in the R force, R
four that may be in the R column, which who
(16:36):
knows could even be the difference between control. Yeah, so
it's a big deal. This one judge. It was a
four to three decision. Seven judges. One judge in Virginia
State Court could have been the difference here. And I
know you look at the ramifications of it, it can
be a completely different situation for the Trump administration. Therefore,
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the whole country, everybody. Theoretically, I'm saying, as this place out,
we'll see how close the midterms are. But Clay, if
you have a Democrat controlled House, we all know this,
it just turns into impeachment three point zero chaos, gridlock,
dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Look, they're gonna try this again. But if you look
at the Louisiana v. Cal A decision or Calai versus Louisiana,
I think there's a very strong chance here that we're
going to see Republicans pick up about ten seats. Now again,
the state courts are going to rule, and the state
Supreme courts in some of these states may also toss
(17:34):
in the short term these districts. But the odds of
Republicans winning the House this morning and this afternoon are
a lot higher than they were yesterday as a result
of this Virginia Supreme Court decision.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
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Speaker 5 (19:01):
We like giving you good news because You're hanging out
with us for hours a day, and we got to
tell you what's going on, but also got to keep
it all in perspective.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
So I'm gonna shed I'm gonna put a little optimism
in the mix here, shed a little light on the car.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
That's right. You must have.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
You must have had a great Thursday. It's Friday. You're
starting off the show feeling good. All right, let me
hear it. I'm excited to hear this.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Kerrie and I had espresso Martini's last night, I will
have you know, and.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
They're good. Huh. Those things are fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I know some of your saying my man card went
down with the martini, but you know what, it was delicious.
I'm not gonna fight it. I enjoyed every bit of it.
It was quite tasty. Even had little espresso beans in
the martini. So good news on the economy. C NBC's
Rick Santelli, This is cut wand telling you one hundred
(19:57):
and fifteen thousand jobs at it Boom hit it the.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Big job jobs report for April sixty five thousand expected. Nay, nay, nay,
we are much stronger. One hundred and fifteen thousand and
one one five and last month upward revision from one
seventy eight to one eighty five. These are good numbers, Clay.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
We've also got any National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett
talking about these job numbers a little more detail on
this before we unpack it all and perhaps do a
little victory lap for the MAGA MAGA economy play.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
Two two months in a row now we've had blockbuster
jobs numbers. And the really interesting thing is that we
look at these things that you guys do too, i'm sure,
called heat maps where you look by category it like
where's the green and whar's the red? And pretty much
it was green across the board. And so what it
means is it's a rip run jobs market. And it's
completely consistent with what we saw with the claim data
just a few days ago, right like initial claims front
(20:58):
and plumba urns right now are the lowest since we've
ever been counting member all the way back to the
nineteen sixties, and so the job market is really, really, really.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Strong, Clay, how are you feeling about things there, buddy?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Great?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
And again let me kind of contextualize first of all,
the S and P five hundred just hit another record high.
It's gone over seventy four hundred and far be it
for me to pat us on the back. As you know,
I hate to give us credit, but I will say
this is kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Buck.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
The S and P five hundred fell to five thousand
last April.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
So when they.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Told you that Trump was going to tank the economy,
when they tried to get everybody to panic again, this
is last April. If you merely bought stock in last April,
you're now up nearly fifty percent on your S and
P five hundred holdings since last April, when they told
you that the stock market was going to collapse, if
(22:02):
you just held on, if you just held on, if
you didn't look at your four to h one k
at all, if you haven't paid attention to it for
some time, everyone is rolling. Who has stock now? Whenever
I say this, people say, well, not everybody has stock.
That is true. I would encourage you, Buck, I think
you would sign off on this too. Everybody has to
(22:25):
start somewhere. Having investments in the future of America and
American companies is smart, in my opinion, a super easy
way to do it. Sn P five hundred index funds.
You don't have to pick individual stocks. You are then
just buying an index of the five hundred biggest companies,
(22:46):
and over time you're going to make about nine percent
a year. So what has happened since last April is extraordinary.
We have rarely seen a stock market this white hot.
Now so star somewhere again. You don't have to agree
with me on anything, just please trust me on this.
For your kids, for you. You don't have to be
(23:08):
a billionaire. You don't have to be a millionaire. If
you start young and you put away money every month,
I can almost guarantee you that after forty or fifty years,
you will in fact be a millionaire if you continue
to put money away and let the market work for you. Now,
oftentimes the stock market is six months or a year
ahead of where people feel the stock market is. It
(23:31):
is a forward looking environmental indicator, and so I understand
people out there who say, well, I haven't felt it
yet in my life. I understand that this is one
of the challenges that I think exists over the next
six months. Buck is you have to simultaneously tell people, hey,
things are getting better, while also recognizing that if people
(23:54):
don't feel that things are getting better, yet you appear
to them to be out of touch. This is why
a lot of people use the cost of a gallon
of gas as a rough approximator of how things are going.
Which is why if the Trump White House were asking
me for advice, by the way, I'll be there Monday,
I would be saying, Hey, let's get this situation in
(24:16):
Iran resolved. You can use the buck Sexton mow the
grass strategy next year after the elections, when Trump's off
the ballot if you need to, but get the price
of a gallon of gas back down close to three
dollars on average, and I think that will be a
good economic indicator to further reflect what's going on in
the market.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Not going to be any Iran deal, folks, just so
you know, just not happening. There's going to be a
deal to talk about the deal because now the political
cycle in this country is kicking in. Is that a
huge problem for Trump or for being middle least, No,
not necessarily. There's reason to believe that that's actually the
(24:56):
smartest I think it's the only position they can really
take right now unless they're going to do this thing
Clay where they destroy the Iranian oil economy in a
permanent way, and I don't know that they really want
to do that. That can have some ramifications because now
you're talking about impoverishing the whole country, essentially everybody in
(25:19):
the country. I'm not sure they're going to do that.
That would be my thing, but they're also not about
to get a deal done. So but it's all going
to be okay everybody. Maybe it's because it's Friday. We're
going to figure this out.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I would also just point out I think that the
economic cataclysm, not only that was predicted last April, but
even the oil and gas prices being up, it has
not had a cataclysmic impact on our economy. And I
think to a big reason. For a big reason that
is the fact that we now are producing I think
I saw the number the other day, eight point two
(25:54):
million barrels of oil every day. Last month. I came
on and I said, hey, things are a lot different
in America now that we are energy and dependent. When
oil prices go up, instead of all that money leaving
our country and running off to the Middle East, a
ton of it now comes back here. And that makes
(26:15):
a tremendous difference in terms of our economic independence, but
also in our economic growth rate. Prices are too high,
they need to come back. But when they do go up,
we actually benefit now. Like back in the day, only
Middle Eastern countries in Russia, for instance, in Venezuela would
benefit Trump.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Right, can we pick up Trump live here in a
second play? I think he's saying some words about, as
we all know, the Mother's Day.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
Country into the strongest border in American history. We have
no people come in during the last eleven months.
Speaker 9 (26:48):
We have zero. Zero. Nobody even tries to come up.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
You know, you used to read about the thousands of
people that would pour in and they'd just come up
in caravan.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
And I came I think it was my name I
came up with. It looked like a.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
Caravan twenty five thirty thousand people pouring up.
Speaker 9 (27:06):
They walk through Mexico.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
They come from all different locations, come from all over
the world, actually, but they came in through a southern
border and they'd come up and just let them walk in.
Speaker 9 (27:18):
Nobody had any idea who they were.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
They were murders, eleven eight hundred and eighty eight murderers.
Speaker 9 (27:24):
They were allowed to come into our country. We've gotten
a lot of them out, many of them murdered more
than one person.
Speaker 8 (27:31):
What a shame, What a disgusting shame that people can
even think that this is okay is pretty incredible. But
for the past twelve months we've had that's been our number.
And these numbers are done by people that the numbers
when they when I say zero, I actually mean zero.
It's hard to believe, actually, but they're done by people
(27:53):
that are They tend to be somewhat on the left,
so they're not going to give us a fair shake.
Speaker 9 (27:59):
And they say that, you.
Speaker 8 (28:01):
Know, people don't come anymore because they know they're not
going to get through. So when they know they're not
going to get through, they just don't come.
Speaker 9 (28:06):
And just on that. We save a lot of lives because.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
That journey up from Honduras and El Salvador and lots
of other countries, or from the Congo where they drop
them there and they walk up and they come through
our country. They emptied the prisons of the Congo into
the area of the southern border and then told them
to just walk in because stupid Americans are going to
(28:30):
accept you beautifully. And these were hard, mean, vicious criminals
they allowed into our country. How anybody can vote for
these people? It's hard to believe. Okay, it's hard to believe.
But to a friend of mine, Maryanne Mendoza, Marianne, where
is marian Where are you? Marian I got to know
(28:50):
you right from the beginning, right And I won't ask
her that, but I would often ask is it easier
with time?
Speaker 9 (28:59):
Because time is gone by Mary? And no it's not.
Sadly it's not. You know you always here with time
and time.
Speaker 8 (29:06):
And but a lot of people say it's not. It's
not easier. But you're a special woman. I've gotten to
be a friend of yours. You're a special woman. What
you have to go through is disgraceful, Tammy.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
We'll continue to monitor what Trump is saying here, but
he's really he's with Trump, you always get the whole package, right.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
He talks about a whole range of things.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
But we have a Mother's Day coming up on Sunday,
and so he is honoring mothers as part of his
discussion there. Back to where we are with with your
on the economy and how it's all looking. I just now,
Clay hope that the GOP really dials in the messaging
on affordability and letting people understand or helping people understand
(29:51):
that the more robust the economy when it comes to hiring,
when it comes to wages, people's four one ks. All
of these different factors and metrics. That's certainly helpful for
some of the high prices you've seen. And the gas
price is coming down, and I believe they will be
coming down here pretty soon. The gas prices coming down
(30:11):
will also add to that. So it's very early. We're
not even in summer yet, but this is going to
be the focus from now to November.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
And look, I would just point out it wasn't very
long ago that egg prices was obsessively covered on the news.
Now eggs are, to my understanding, and I am not
the expert when it comes to purchasing eggs, but I
believe that eggs are back down lower than they've been
for a long time. And I think you're going to
(30:40):
see the price of a gallon of gas by the
time we get to Labor Day. I've said this before,
I'll say it again. I think it'll be back to
three dollars a gallon.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I really do.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Now you can clip this we could see whether I'm
correct or not. It's about four point fifty. Now, what
was your peers Morgan show bet?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Was it that the stock market was going to be
up from where it was in January of twenty six
and the price of gas would be down? And if
you were wrong, you were going to dance around in
a chicken shoot and say.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
That sec football sucks? Like what was it? You were
gonna something? Though, I'm very confident.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Evidently Producer Ali is out celebrating Mother's Day with her mother,
a lovely mom, a bit early, but she has note
cards on this the stock market I am destroying. I
said in April of last year, ap pears, I guarantee
you the stock market will be up compared to where
it is in April of last year. It's now up
(31:35):
twenty four hundred points, so it's up almost fifty percent
from where it was last year when the panic was
going on. Producer Ali says, I also said gas would
be cheaper, which looked like brilliant until we went to
war in Iran. And now that one, I think it's
in October. Now that one is going to be close.
I have to wear a clown nose. I have to
(31:57):
wear a clown nose if I'm wrong about the price
of gas. So producer Ali has this, and so the
stock market. If you listened to me, you're going to
be making a bundle. We'll see about whether or not
I have to wear the the clown knows over the
price of price of gas. I didn't remember saying the
price of gas, but she says that I did, and
there's audio, So that was one.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I should have just said stocks. I would have looked
like a genius.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Instead, I might look partly like a genius and also
partly like an idiot.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Which is probably par for the course. If you ask my.
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Speaker 2 (33:31):
Pre cent your pals, Clain Buck on the iHeart at
Thank you so much, Christ the President. You aren't here
against the backdrop of the war in Iran? Why focus
on all these projects right now?
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (33:42):
I don't want to keep our country beautiful and safe.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, beautiful?
Speaker 9 (33:47):
Change anything we're fishing up?
Speaker 8 (33:49):
Do you reflecting pond to the Lincoln Memorial, the Washington Monument.
Speaker 9 (33:54):
And you say, why are you fixating up?
Speaker 8 (33:56):
Because you can understand Derk may be better than I can,
but I don't allow it. This is one of the
worst reporters. She's with ABC Faith Dudes, and she's a
horror show. She's saying, why would you bother fixing this up.
Why would I bother taking eleven or twelve truck.
Speaker 9 (34:12):
Cloves of filth out of the water in front of
the Lincoln Monument. That's what made our country great. Beauty
made our country. People made our country great. A question
like that is a disgrace to our country.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
So President Trump, Buck, still, this is very Trump. This
is a mother's a Mother's Day address. And President Trump,
I don't know if you saw the video yesterday.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
We even discussed it on the program. He's trying to
fix the reflecting pool in front of the Lincoln Memorial,
which he says, and I do think there's some truth
to this, having been by it a lot, it has
become filthy and he wants it to look more beautiful.
So yesterday he took the Secret Service and they went
on a tour of the reflecting pool, which has been drained,
(35:01):
and he has some of his pool guys that are
in there trying to figure out a way to make
it more beautiful. And he got questioned about why he's
doing it, and he is obviously teeing off.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
About his goal.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
It is kind of wild, Buck, how much he's trying
to fix all at once. All over the country in
all respects. I mean, it's pretty crazy about a projects
he's underway with right now.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Can I address one of these quickly here?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Clay VIP listener guy writes Buck, I never heard that
martinis weren't manly. They have a high alcohol content, and
James Bond drinks Martini's. Well Guy, yes, but I'm talking
espresso Martinis my friend, and I'm talking to Martini with
some espresso thrown into it and some coffee Liqueur, which
(35:50):
I don't know. Clay a man card points deducted for
Espresso martiniz it's not an appletini.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I mean it has taken off in popularity.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
One of our friends been that we've been out with
quite a lot orders Espresso Martini rounds with every opportunity
that he can.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
It is a nice.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Little pick me up if you're out and need a
little bit of a caffeine rush.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
We'll come back update you more on Virginia and more
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