August 7, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers a dynamic and politically charged start to the day, packed with high-impact commentary and exclusive interviews. Clay Travis hosts solo while Buck Sexton is away on vacation, diving into key national issues and spotlighting major political developments.
The hour opens with breaking political news: Senator Marsha Blackburn announces her candidacy for Governor of Tennessee, joining Clay for an in-depth interview later in the hour. Blackburn outlines her conservative vision for Tennessee, emphasizing economic growth, education reform, crime reduction, and support for law enforcement. She also discusses federal initiatives like raising the retirement age for pilots, enhancing community care for veterans, and implementing online safety legislation for children.
Clay also previews upcoming interviews with Michael Whatley, the GOP nominee for Senate in North Carolina, and Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina, highlighting the 2026 Senate battlegrounds and the broader implications for the America First agenda.
A major theme throughout the hour is violent crime in American cities, with Clay spotlighting disturbing incidents in Cincinnati and Memphis. He shares the story of Holly, a single mother who was brutally attacked, and critiques the justice system’s failure to keep repeat offenders off the streets. Ohio Senator Bernie Moreno invited Holly to speak out about the crime. Clay praises Judge Jeanine Pirro and President Donald Trump for taking strong stances on law and order, including Trump’s proposal to federalize the D.C. police force and demand a new U.S. census to correct errors from 2020 and prepare for 2030.
The show also explores the political debate over crime statistics, contrasting claims of declining crime rates with real-life safety concerns. Clay argues for empowering police, holding judges accountable, and ensuring cities like Washington D.C. and Memphis become safe again for families.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
In Thursday edition, Clay Travis buck Sexton Show appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Buck is out traveling
with his family on a summer vacation. He will be
back on Monday with me I've got you today and
tomorrow solo. We have an absolutely locked in loaded program.
(00:22):
Senator Marsha Blackburn has announced that she is going to
be running for governor of Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
She will be on with us at the bottom of
this hour.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
In the second hour, big battle in North Carolina. Coming
to replace Tom tillis Michael Wattley, who ran the RNC
did a great job in twenty twenty four North Carolina native.
He is going to be the Republican nominee to run
against former Governor Roy Cooper of the state of North Carolina.
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This is going to be an epic battle next year.
We will talk with Michael Wattley, who hopefully will be
the next Senator from North Carolina, and then two point
thirty we will speak with Tim Scott, who is the
current Senator from South Carolina, about all of the ongoing
shenanigans in Washington, DC and beyond. So there is the
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roadmap of where we are going bottom of the hour,
We've got a bunch of guests, two senators and one
who hopes to be a senator, as well as one
who hopes to be a governor. All of that coming
your direction now. Within that construct, we have got a
lot of stuff going on right now that I want
to dive into. I think, in an incredibly consequential manner.
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Trump has demanded that we have a new census. I'm
going to explain why that could be so incredibly consequential,
not only right now because there were a lot of
errors in the twenty twenty census and he believes they
need to be rectified, but also because in twenty thirty
they are going to be seismic differences in the overall
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census tallies. And I think this is a battle that
you should be paying a lot of attention to because
it could be incredibly important not only for the midterms,
but also in the twenty twenty eight presidential race and
beyond that in the twenty thirty interplay as it pertains
to the census. But I wanted to start with what
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I would say is a genuine acknowledgment that our cities
have become too violent, and it's time to actually put
bad guys behind jail, behind bars in jail. And we
are getting these questions and these viral stories from all
over the country, but I wanted to start with one
that we talked with Bernie Marino about a violent attack
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on an innocent woman, Holly who Bernie Marino came on
with us last week and talked all about it. She
has now had a public appearance. Many of you saw
her awfully bruised and battered face, and she now has
spoken out about what happened to her. She appeared with
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our friend Senator Bernie Marino of Ohio Cut eleven. This
is what it sounded like.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
We need more police officers, but like he said, you
know the judges who are just letting people out with
the slab. The man who attacked me and might have
permanently damaged me forever should never have been on the
streets ever. And the fact that he had just gotten
out of jail previously for something he should have been
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in there for years. It's really sad to me because
I can't even fathom how many other people who have
been attacked by the same type of man over and
over and over in Toledo, in Columbus, Cincinnati, Dayton. Our
streets are being taken over and nobody is doing anything.
I am so sad and I need to be the
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voice to help all of the victims that never got
their justice.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Well said, Well said by her again. If you heard
Bernie Marino tell her story. She is a mom of
a young special needs child. She went out on a
date in Cincinnati and she got knocked out. She got
in an uber after she got knocked out. Think about
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that for a minute. It's an innocent mom. Could have
been any mom in America out for a night out
in a big city Cincinnati. She got slug knocked out
on video. Police came, they didn't do anything, and she
got in an uber and drove home.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
How does this happen?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And I know that a lot of you out there
are cops and you're listening to me all over the country,
and you are just noding your head because you're saying,
we arrest these bad guys. This guy got out for
a four hundred dollars BA rested all the time. It's
the same dudes, almost always dudes, same bad guys, time
after time after time. What in the world is going
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on here? And I think they're finally were at a
tipping point, and we finally got a president, and we
got enough senators and governors who are standing up and
saying no, we're not gonna let this happen. Yesterday I
was talking with you about Look. I love Washington, DC.
I went to college there. I'm a history nerd. It
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is a beautiful city. There's way too much crime there.
And what you hear people say is, oh, crime's coming down, Yeah,
from all time highs. How about we actually address the
fact that any significant rate of violent crime is unacceptable
in this country. How about we have a real conversation
(05:55):
about that. And I give credit to Janeine Piro. I'm
going to play some of these audio clips new d
attorney formerly at Fox News, and I give credit to
President Trump for raising this as an issue. Here is
Judge Janine Piro cut two saying, Hey, I'm in charge now,
and this is not going to be acceptable.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Violence against anyone in this district will not be tolerated,
especially violence which has hate at its core and is
the genesis of violence. The President put me here to
do a job to clean up the district, to make
sure that crime doesn't overshadow this phenomenal city, our nation's capital,
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and I have throughout my career fought anti semitism for
thirty two years as a prosecutor and a judge.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I do so.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I fight hate crimes with a vengeance. So don't even
think about targeting people in this district because of who
they are or because of where they're from. I promise
you justice will be swift and it will be certain.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I love her.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Let's get Ali. Let's get a request in for Judge Piro.
I think we've had her on the program in the past,
and certainly we overlap quite a lot at Fox News,
so I know her from the green room at Fox News,
and I think it's important. Okay, you might be sitting
around out there and you might be saying, hey, okay,
what's the counter argument to this? Trump said in fact
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cut three, Hey, maybe we just need to take over
the DC police force and actually make something happen.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Here.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Here's cut three.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
I'm caitalized in DC.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Are you considering taking over the DC police.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Is not an option on this week?
Speaker 7 (07:40):
We're considering it, Yeah, because the crime is ridiculous. I
could show you a chart comparing DC to other locations,
and you're not going to want to see what it
looks like. It was just up on television actually that
we're showing it now. We want to have a great
safe capital, and we're going to have it. And that
includes cleanliness and it includes other things. We have a
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capital that's very unsafety.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
You want hires to look at overturning the DC Home
Will Act, and we're going to look at that.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
In fact, they or the lawyers are already studying it.
We have to run DC. This has to be the
best run place in the country, not the worst run
place in the country.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I mean, he's right on all of this, and I
give him credit for coming in and trying to solve
this problem instead of just kind of hiding behind the
security detail as many presidents have done in the past.
They don't actually solve the issues when it comes to violence.
And what the president's referring to is I ran through
this yesterday. I think maybe it was a day before yesterday.
(08:43):
We have one of the highest violent crime rates of
any capital city in the world. Most people, and I
ran through countries. I mean Ethiopia, a DC Baba, which
I'm probably mispronouncing, has a lower rate of violent crime
in its capital City than the United States does. Why
does that happen? Most people, most countries consider their capital
(09:06):
to be a jewel that should represent the best of
their country and not be a place that is filled
with violent crime. And so the rest of the country
may not be as safe and that's unfortunate. But they say, Hey,
the capital city is going to be safe. We're going
to put the resources in to ensure that this isn't happening.
(09:27):
And I give a lot of credit to Trump and
Judge Janine Piro for shining a light on this. And
what's the counter argument? This is really funny to me
because Trump is basically saying, hey, rates of violent crime
are way too high, and I want to do whatever
it takes to get those rates of violent crime down.
DC is far higher than a city like New York City,
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for instance, when it comes to rates of violent crime.
New York City is far safer than Washington, DC. What's
the response, Okay, it seems like a good thing, something
that you could be in favor of, no matter what
your politics are.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Well.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Jessica tar Law, who's also at Fox News in fact,
used to sit next to Judge Deneen Piro on the
Five a show that many of you would watch on
a regular basis. She says, actually, crime's down. What are
we worried about in DC? Here's cut four.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
What are democrats thinking when it comes to the nationalization
of GC?
Speaker 8 (10:23):
They're thinking hard No, why not? Because there's no reason
to have Donald Trump be in.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Charge of It is about crime?
Speaker 8 (10:32):
Well, it actually is about crime, and the good news
is that crime is down dramatically.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
So year over.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Year, twenty twenty four had a violent crime drop to
a thirty year low thirty five percent down and carjackings
cut in half. Robbery's down twenty four percent, homicides down
seventeen percent, assault with a dangerous weapon down fourteen percent.
Just because Big Balls did a terrible job at Doze
does not mean that he deserved this. Any incident is terrible.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
But we have to.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Followers to jack.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Okay, So how do you argue against this? How do
you argue against a very basic fact that should be
supported by everyone. We need violent crime rates way down.
Moms all over this country need to be able to
go out to dinner in a city without worrying that
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they're going to get knocked flat out on the street
by a mob of violent thugs that it costs them.
I've said for a long time that one of the
ways to know whether your neighborhood is safe or not
is are you okay with your wife, your girlfriend, your
daughter going for a jog around six o'clock pm in
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the afternoon evening in your neighborhood. Far too many American
cities and neighborhoods, the answer is no. And I know
there's a ton of you listen to me right now
now that if you see your wife getting your tennis shoes,
you're like, hey, I hope you're going to the gym,
because it's a little bit late, might start to get dark.
I don't feel comfortable with you out on the streets.
(12:11):
You've got a daughter, you've got a granddaughter trying to
stay in shape. How many different parts of America do
we not feel comfortable with women going for jogs or
walks or workouts in the neighborhood because we've just come
to accept that violent crime is a real threat and
we don't even want the women in our lives to
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be out. Now, some men probably like me, you don't
worry about it that much, But every woman thinks about
it all the time, and that mom Holly in Cincinnati
getting knocked out. I'm sorry. It's unacceptable. And what's further
unacceptable is when we point out this violence, young intern
gets killed randomly in the streets of Washington, DC, and
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people say, Okay, well, but you know, in real life,
the rate of violent crime is actually declining. Okay, let's
decline it faster. That's what Trump saying. And I think
Trump deserves credit, by the way, for the rates of
violent crime beginning to decline in twenty twenty five, fairly significantly,
because I think a lot of you out there nodding
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right now. Police officers, you can finally do your jobs again.
You can put some bad guys behind bars. But here
in my home state, Memphis, I talked about this the
other day. I was out in March. I'll tell you
the story a little bit more when we come back,
But because we're going to talk with Senator Blackburn, who
wants to run for governor, I took my son. He
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had a sporting event in Memphis. I know a lot
of y'all are listening in Memphis right now. I forgot
my charger and it was March was a night Tennessee
and Kentucky played a basketball game. Needed to charge my
phone and I went downstairs. Maybe they had a charger there,
And I said, well, I'll just go to the grocery store.
And the lady at the counter said, uh, hey, be careful.
(13:58):
It's eight point thirty at night. It's not like it
was two thirty in the morning. She said to me,
be careful. If you're going out to buy a charger
after dark, what are we talking about that going to
a grocery store or a convenience store or a gas
station after dark in a city like Memphis at eight o'clock,
(14:20):
we're not talking about three am. That the front desk
ladies are like, hey, be careful. Buck talked about this.
He went to Saint Louis. He was like, hey, is
there anywhere to walk to go get something to eat?
And they were like, well, you can't walk anywhere. What
are we talking about that? This is just considered to
be a normal part of discourse. This is something that
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is significant. Let's let cops do the job. Let's put
bad guys behind bars. Let's make everyone women in particular
safe in every big city in America. That seems like
a very reasonable goal. And I think it's an important
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I was talking about Memphis, and every state has a
city just about where you even within the construct of
the of the state, where there may be places where
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it's a little bit unsafe, there's one city where everybody's like,
you really better be careful there. I mean, that's unfortunately
where we are in the country right now, and for
my home state of Tennessee, it's Memphis. And I'm just
kind of astounded over how commonplace it has become in
many of our biggest cities to just tell people, yeah,
(16:37):
you really shouldn't go out after dark. This bonkers that
this has just become accepted common discussion that you're staying
in a hotel or you live in that city yourself,
and people just say, yeah, hey, maybe just don't go
out after dark.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, I know, you may need something. Baby's hume hungry.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Uh, you've got you've got to go get some formula,
or you've got to go get milk or cereal, or
kids are gonna be hungry in the morning.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Maybe just wait till dawn and go get it.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Excuse me, is this like the Walking Dead are their
vampires just everywhere, and they might descend upon you.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
This is the world we're in right now.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
And we have grown to accept it, and frankly, we
shouldn't and we shouldn't accept. Hey, well, the rates are declining,
so we shouldn't be complaining about this. Any rate of
violent crime of a significant degree in any city of
America that makes people change their behavior should not be acceptable.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Period.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Let's let cops do their job, Let's put bad guys
behind bars, and let's use Washington, DC as a duel
for the nation to explain what we could do to
make things better.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
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Speaker 1 (18:27):
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pound two five zero, say Clay and Buck. Welcome back in, Clay,
Travis Buck Sexton show. Joining us now is the next
governor of my home state of Tennessee, Senator Marsha Blackburn,
who announced yesterday that she would be running for governor
next year. Senator Blackburn, appreciate having you on. I've given
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you this praise before, but I do think it's important.
I'm not sure there's anyone in public service right now
who is more responsible for the state of Tennessee being
a huge destination point than you. And for those of
you out there who do not know, Senator Blackburn, long
before she was a senator, led the opposition to a
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state income tax in Tennessee, and as a result, I
bet it's almost like I feel like every week I
meet someone who has moved from another state, and one
of the first things they say is, I did not
want to pay state income tax elsewhere. So I'll let
you take a bow for that to start. But I
imagine that's evidence and anticipation of what you would like
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to continue to do when you are elected governor.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
You're exactly right, and thanks for having me on. You know,
when the people of this state joined with me and
we defeated that state income tax, it forced our state
to reset how they do business, to skinny up the bureaucracy,
and to get their fiscal health in order without burdening
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the people of the state with a state income tax,
which allows you to have a city income tax, which
allows you to have a county income tax. And many
people that are moving to Tennessee are escaping that myriad
of high taxes on their earned income. Now, as we
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look at what President Trump has delivered for the American people,
he said I will drain the swamp. He is sending
education back to the states because he's closing the US
Department of Education. He is sending healthcare back the states,
and energy and regulation and all of this responsibility that
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has been tangled up in Washington, d C. With miles
of red tape. He is sending back to the people
and to the states and local governments. So this is
the chance to reset our state so that as that
authority comes back, we in Tennessee who are great innovators,
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We who believe in a.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Small central government.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
What we will do is position ourselves to be America's
conservative leader for decades to come.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
What do you think We're talking to Senator Marsha Blackburn,
who has announced he's running for governor. You just ran
through there a lot of the things you want to do.
How do you think the job of senator, where you
have been for a little while, is going to be
different than governor? And why do you think you're better
suited as governor going forward?
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Well, one of the things that pertains to both of
those into all public service that I think is important
is that you realize you are there to be responsible
to the people, which is something we have always done.
And I think it's also important to.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Realize that leadership means that you actually lead people, you manage.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Assets, and that is something I have a great track
record of doing. It is up to the governor of
the state to.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Set that agenda.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
We know in Tennessee the primary issues that people are
focused on are having a world class economy and jobs
and jobs growth, wage growth, having educational opportunity in a
world class education for our children so that they're able
to fill those jobs, advance manufacturing and research work, and
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a technology advance money emerging technology jobs that are coming
into the state. And the other is the issue of crime,
public safety, and illegal immigration. How that figures in to
that public safety in crime. So these are all being
sent back to the States, and that's what Tennesseeans are
wanting to see action on.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I was just talking about the fact that on my
last trip to Memphis, my middle son had an athletic event.
I realized that I had forgotten a cell phone charger.
And when I went down to the front desk at
the hotel, it wasn't even very late, eight thirty o'clock,
eight thirty at night something like that. The front desk
agent said, will be really careful going out to go
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get a cell phone charger. Memphis has fallen apart. You've
been in this state for a while. I know there's
tons of people in Memphis listening to us right now
nodding along. How do we make Memphis in particular safe
for good people of whom there are tons in that city?
What can be done? You hear President Trump talking about
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Washington d C. Memphis has a way higher rate of
violent crime than Washington, d C. And Washington DC's too high.
What can we do?
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Yes? And one of the things that I've done, and
by the way, State Senator Brent Taylor in Memphis is
doing a remarkable job. I've done a lot of work
with him, and he has endorsed me in this run
for governor. And one of the things that I've done
is work with Cash Patel, who's the director at the FBI,
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in Attorney General Pambondi, and we have surged FBI resources,
in federal law enforcement resources into Memphis because it is
imperative that we break apart these gangs that are there
in Memphis and the surrounding area.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
So that is one.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Thing that we have done. Another thing in working with
the elected leaders of Memphis, realizing that the after school hours,
the time between two o'clock in the afternoon and six o'clock,
that is a high propensity time for juvenile crime. So
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the after school Act and this is something I'm working
on doing a round table with leaders in Memphis next week.
The After School Actives, which would put resources in the
hands of organizations to make certain that they are providing
programs for young people so that they have somewhere to
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be during those after school hours. We also Senator Haggerdy
and I have a piece of legislation restoring law and
order that would put resources in the hands of local
law enforcement so that they are able to enforce it,
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really enforced the law and get these criminals off the streets.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
We're talking to Senator Marshall Blackburn, who has announced yesterday
that she is running for governor of Tennessee. You are
going to remain in the Senate while this campaign continues.
You reference Senator Hagerty and all the work there. I
know Buck talked to you about this. Buck is out
with his family for the weekend, but I told him
that I would ask you about it. There is a
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huge shortage of good pilots, as I'm sure you are aware,
and this has been a major discussion, and there right
now is a retirement age for pilots that's mandatory my understanding,
even though many of the pilots are still incredibly skilled,
They're able to do the job, They're able to pass
all the tests. What can we do, and certainly this
(26:54):
has been a big topic of conversation after the unfortunate,
awful incident that happened in the DC area where so
many people lost their lives. What can we do to
ensure that the best pilots can continue to pilot for
us going forward. What's the latest on that?
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Yes, and Buck and I discuss the legislation that I
have that raises the retirement age for pilots. What has happened.
Pilots are pushed out of the cockpit on commercial flights
when they turn sixty five. The day they turn sixty five. Now,
it's sort of silly to believe that at sixty four
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they are capable, but when the clock ticks over on
that day of their birthday, they are no longer capable
to flight. So what pilots are doing is working for
charter flights and working for corporations once they hit that
retirement age. So raising that retirement age so they can
(27:59):
stay in the cockpit as long as they are meeting
the medical test and the health requirements for a pilot
and having them instead of once a year twice a
year do those medical checks. But everybody knows we need
(28:19):
more pilots.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
I mean, my goodness. So many of us.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Have race to the airport and gotten through security and
we make it to the gate with kids and luggage
and tow and then we find out that we're waiting
on the crew. The plane is there, but.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
The crew is not there.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
So we're delayed fifteen thirty minutes an hour waiting for
the crew, and we're worried about making the connection on
the next flight so we can get to the destinations.
So a way to help solve that is by increasing
this age by which pilots are allowed to stay in
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the cockpit. It's a good piece of legislation, and you're right.
There are a lot of good things that we're working
on and we'll continue to work on until we get.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
Sworn in as governor.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
And our Kids Online Safety Act, a privacy bill for
consumers in the virtual space, we have never done that.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Those need to be passed.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
We have legislation to protect people from AI and some
of those arms to put some guardrails in place.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
We need to do that.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
We're going to continue working to confirm good judges, constitutional
originalists judges to the court. That will be on our plate.
Our community care for veterans is something we've made a
tremendous amount of headway on this year, and we are
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continuing to push that so veterans get the care they need,
where they need it, when they need it, without having
to drive two or three hours to the VA hospital
and sit in the waiting room and wait half the day.
So we're making headway on community care. Our moving agencies
out of DC, we're making headway there. Secretary McMahon at
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the Department of Education is really devolving that and removing it.
You've got the USDA Secretary rollins our works there. They've
moved about half the USDA staff out of DC and
those jobs are now and regional offices across the country.
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So we've got a lot on our plate. We are
working every single day solving problems for Tennesseeans and doing
our best to make certain that America is going to
be running on this America First agenda and that we
are going to make Tennessee ameers America's conservative leader in
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this work that we are doing with President Trump.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
If people want to support your campaign where should they.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Go Marsha Blackburn dot com. We would love to have
their support. We're working hard every day to earn the
support of each and every Tennessee and outstanding.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
We appreciate the time. Good luck on the campaign and
congrats on the announcement.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
Thanks so much. See you play Gobe.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you rolling through with us. Appreciate Marsha Blackburn there
with us. On the last segment, there's a lot of
great reactions rolling in variety of different subjects. Bow writes
in until city, states, and federal government make parents responsible
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for what their under eighteen kids do, crime will not
be abated. If parents could be arrested and jailed for
the unlawful acts of their children, then maybe things will change. Okay,
this is a complicated subject, right, because what we have
actually seen is the parents that are getting charged are
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typically related to gun crime. I got three kids. I
think if one of my kids at under eighteen ran
around with a gun and was shooting it, I happened
to think that I should be responsible as a parent
for that. Civilly, that would likely be the case, right.
(34:29):
I think this is a really kind of fascinating question.
I think it's complex, but I appreciate Bo writing it
in on the VIP email line. Civilly, So let me
just kind of walk you through this. If if your
kid is driving around in a car and they get
in an accident and they are sixteen years old, and
they're at fault, mom and dad gets sued. Everybody out
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there that has ever had a sixteen year old car
driver knows that is the case. Sixteen year old is
a minor driving, typically under a parent's car that they
have purchased in some way, parents paying for car insurance.
That's very common. If a sixteen year old takes a
gun and mows down ten people, typically the parent could
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be sued civilly and would be in a wrongful death lawsuit.
You could be responsible for millions of dollars in damages,
but you're typically not criminally responsible. Now that has changed.
I think it was Oxford, Michigan, where they prosecuted the
parents of a school shooter because they were aware the
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kid had a gun. There were aspects of his behavior
that the parents should have been aware of. I think
that that is not a crazy idea. Okay, generally speaking,
I think that's not a crazy idea. I think what
you will see is a lot of parents will say, oh,
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I had no idea, But shouldn't you be aware as
a parent if your kid has access to firearms and
has mental health related issues? I think you should, And
so I think that turns into a very complicated issue. Actually,
I'm curious two a two one eight two two eight
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a two what do you guys think about that? I
definitely think we need to attack violent crime, underage crime.
Judge Janine has an interesting idea I'm going to play
for you when we come back. Associated with that, we
will also talk about the census and how it should
be applied. My one concern when it comes to charging
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parents is they're going to charge parents that are that
are gun owners oftentimes, and not people out there who
just have stolen guns.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Let's talk about it.
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
In Thursday edition, Clay Travis buck Sexton Show appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Buck is out traveling
with his family on a summer vacation. He will be
back on Monday with me I've got you today and
tomorrow solo. We have an absolutely locked in loaded program.
(00:22):
Senator Marsha Blackburn has announced that she is going to
be running for governor of Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
She will be on with us at the bottom of
this hour.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
In the second hour, big battle in North Carolina. Coming
to replace Tom tillis Michael Wattley, who ran the RNC
did a great job in twenty twenty four North Carolina native.
He is going to be the Republican nominee to run
against former Governor Roy Cooper of the state of North Carolina.
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This is going to be an epic battle next year.
We will talk with Michael Wattley, who hopefully will be
the next Senator from North Carolina, and then two point
thirty we will speak with Tim Scott, who is the
current Senator from South Carolina, about all of the ongoing
shenanigans in Washington, DC and beyond. So there is the
(01:16):
roadmap of where we are going bottom of the hour,
We've got a bunch of guests, two senators and one
who hopes to be a senator, as well as one
who hopes to be a governor. All of that coming
your direction now. Within that construct, we have got a
lot of stuff going on right now that I want
to dive into. I think, in an incredibly consequential manner.
(01:38):
Trump has demanded that we have a new census. I'm
going to explain why that could be so incredibly consequential,
not only right now because there were a lot of
errors in the twenty twenty census and he believes they
need to be rectified, but also because in twenty thirty
they are going to be seismic differences in the overall
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census tallies. And I think this is a battle that
you should be paying a lot of attention to because
it could be incredibly important not only for the midterms,
but also in the twenty twenty eight presidential race and
beyond that in the twenty thirty interplay as it pertains
to the census. But I wanted to start with what
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I would say is a genuine acknowledgment that our cities
have become too violent, and it's time to actually put
bad guys behind jail, behind bars in jail. And we
are getting these questions and these viral stories from all
over the country, but I wanted to start with one
that we talked with Bernie Marino about a violent attack
(02:43):
on an innocent woman, Holly who Bernie Marino came on
with us last week and talked all about it. She
has now had a public appearance. Many of you saw
her awfully bruised and battered face, and she now has
spoken out about what happened to her. She appeared with
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our friend Senator Bernie Marino of Ohio Cut eleven. This
is what it sounded like.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
We need more police officers, but like he said, you
know the judges who are just letting people out with
the slab. The man who attacked me and might have
permanently damaged me forever should never have been on the
streets ever. And the fact that he had just gotten
out of jail previously for something he should have been
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in there for years. It's really sad to me because
I can't even fathom how many other people who have
been attacked by the same type of man over and
over and over in Toledo, in Columbus, Cincinnati, Dayton. Our
streets are being taken over and nobody is doing anything.
I am so sad and I need to be the
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voice to help all of the victims that never got
their justice.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Well said, Well said by her again. If you heard
Bernie Marino tell her story. She is a mom of
a young special needs child. She went out on a
date in Cincinnati and she got knocked out. She got
in an uber after she got knocked out. Think about
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that for a minute. It's an innocent mom. Could have
been any mom in America out for a night out
in a big city Cincinnati. She got slug knocked out
on video. Police came, they didn't do anything, and she
got in an uber and drove home.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
How does this happen?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And I know that a lot of you out there
are cops and you're listening to me all over the country,
and you are just noding your head because you're saying,
we arrest these bad guys. This guy got out for
a four hundred dollars BA rested all the time. It's
the same dudes, almost always dudes, same bad guys, time
after time after time. What in the world is going
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on here? And I think they're finally were at a
tipping point, and we finally got a president, and we
got enough senators and governors who are standing up and
saying no, we're not gonna let this happen. Yesterday I
was talking with you about Look. I love Washington, DC.
I went to college there. I'm a history nerd. It
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is a beautiful city. There's way too much crime there.
And what you hear people say is, oh, crime's coming down, Yeah,
from all time highs. How about we actually address the
fact that any significant rate of violent crime is unacceptable
in this country. How about we have a real conversation
(05:55):
about that. And I give credit to Janeine Piro. I'm
going to play some of these audio clips new d
attorney formerly at Fox News, and I give credit to
President Trump for raising this as an issue. Here is
Judge Janine Piro cut two saying, Hey, I'm in charge now,
and this is not going to be acceptable.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Violence against anyone in this district will not be tolerated,
especially violence which has hate at its core and is
the genesis of violence. The President put me here to
do a job to clean up the district, to make
sure that crime doesn't overshadow this phenomenal city, our nation's capital,
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and I have throughout my career fought anti semitism for
thirty two years as a prosecutor and a judge.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I do so.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I fight hate crimes with a vengeance. So don't even
think about targeting people in this district because of who
they are or because of where they're from. I promise
you justice will be swift and it will be certain.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I love her.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Let's get Ali. Let's get a request in for Judge Piro.
I think we've had her on the program in the past,
and certainly we overlap quite a lot at Fox News,
so I know her from the green room at Fox News,
and I think it's important. Okay, you might be sitting
around out there and you might be saying, hey, okay,
what's the counter argument to this? Trump said in fact
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cut three, Hey, maybe we just need to take over
the DC police force and actually make something happen.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Here.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Here's cut three.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
I'm caitalized in DC.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Are you considering taking over the DC police.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Is not an option on this week?
Speaker 7 (07:40):
We're considering it, Yeah, because the crime is ridiculous. I
could show you a chart comparing DC to other locations,
and you're not going to want to see what it
looks like. It was just up on television actually that
we're showing it now. We want to have a great
safe capital, and we're going to have it. And that
includes cleanliness and it includes other things. We have a
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capital that's very unsafety.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
You want hires to look at overturning the DC Home
Will Act, and we're going to look at that.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
In fact, they or the lawyers are already studying it.
We have to run DC. This has to be the
best run place in the country, not the worst run
place in the country.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I mean, he's right on all of this, and I
give him credit for coming in and trying to solve
this problem instead of just kind of hiding behind the
security detail as many presidents have done in the past.
They don't actually solve the issues when it comes to violence.
And what the president's referring to is I ran through
this yesterday. I think maybe it was a day before yesterday.
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We have one of the highest violent crime rates of
any capital city in the world. Most people, and I
ran through countries. I mean Ethiopia, a DC Baba, which
I'm probably mispronouncing, has a lower rate of violent crime
in its capital City than the United States does. Why
does that happen? Most people, most countries consider their capital
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to be a jewel that should represent the best of
their country and not be a place that is filled
with violent crime. And so the rest of the country
may not be as safe and that's unfortunate. But they say, Hey,
the capital city is going to be safe. We're going
to put the resources in to ensure that this isn't happening.
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And I give a lot of credit to Trump and
Judge Janine Piro for shining a light on this. And
what's the counter argument? This is really funny to me
because Trump is basically saying, hey, rates of violent crime
are way too high, and I want to do whatever
it takes to get those rates of violent crime down.
DC is far higher than a city like New York City,
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for instance, when it comes to rates of violent crime.
New York City is far safer than Washington, DC. What's
the response, Okay, it seems like a good thing, something
that you could be in favor of, no matter what
your politics are.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Well.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Jessica tar Law, who's also at Fox News in fact,
used to sit next to Judge Deneen Piro on the
Five a show that many of you would watch on
a regular basis. She says, actually, crime's down. What are
we worried about in DC? Here's cut four.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
What are democrats thinking when it comes to the nationalization
of GC?
Speaker 8 (10:23):
They're thinking hard No, why not? Because there's no reason
to have Donald Trump be in.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Charge of It is about crime?
Speaker 8 (10:32):
Well, it actually is about crime, and the good news
is that crime is down dramatically.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
So year over.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Year, twenty twenty four had a violent crime drop to
a thirty year low thirty five percent down and carjackings
cut in half. Robbery's down twenty four percent, homicides down
seventeen percent, assault with a dangerous weapon down fourteen percent.
Just because Big Balls did a terrible job at Doze
does not mean that he deserved this. Any incident is terrible.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
But we have to.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Followers to jack.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Okay, So how do you argue against this? How do
you argue against a very basic fact that should be
supported by everyone. We need violent crime rates way down.
Moms all over this country need to be able to
go out to dinner in a city without worrying that
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they're going to get knocked flat out on the street
by a mob of violent thugs that it costs them.
I've said for a long time that one of the
ways to know whether your neighborhood is safe or not
is are you okay with your wife, your girlfriend, your
daughter going for a jog around six o'clock pm in
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the afternoon evening in your neighborhood. Far too many American
cities and neighborhoods, the answer is no. And I know
there's a ton of you listen to me right now
now that if you see your wife getting your tennis shoes,
you're like, hey, I hope you're going to the gym,
because it's a little bit late, might start to get dark.
I don't feel comfortable with you out on the streets.
(12:11):
You've got a daughter, you've got a granddaughter trying to
stay in shape. How many different parts of America do
we not feel comfortable with women going for jogs or
walks or workouts in the neighborhood because we've just come
to accept that violent crime is a real threat and
we don't even want the women in our lives to
(12:32):
be out. Now, some men probably like me, you don't
worry about it that much, But every woman thinks about
it all the time, and that mom Holly in Cincinnati
getting knocked out. I'm sorry. It's unacceptable. And what's further
unacceptable is when we point out this violence, young intern
gets killed randomly in the streets of Washington, DC, and
(12:55):
people say, Okay, well, but you know, in real life,
the rate of violent crime is actually declining. Okay, let's
decline it faster. That's what Trump saying. And I think
Trump deserves credit, by the way, for the rates of
violent crime beginning to decline in twenty twenty five, fairly significantly,
because I think a lot of you out there nodding
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right now. Police officers, you can finally do your jobs again.
You can put some bad guys behind bars. But here
in my home state, Memphis, I talked about this the
other day. I was out in March. I'll tell you
the story a little bit more when we come back,
But because we're going to talk with Senator Blackburn, who
wants to run for governor, I took my son. He
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had a sporting event in Memphis. I know a lot
of y'all are listening in Memphis right now. I forgot
my charger and it was March was a night Tennessee
and Kentucky played a basketball game. Needed to charge my
phone and I went downstairs. Maybe they had a charger there,
And I said, well, I'll just go to the grocery store.
And the lady at the counter said, uh, hey, be careful.
(13:58):
It's eight point thirty at night. It's not like it
was two thirty in the morning. She said to me,
be careful. If you're going out to buy a charger
after dark, what are we talking about that going to
a grocery store or a convenience store or a gas
station after dark in a city like Memphis at eight o'clock,
(14:20):
we're not talking about three am. That the front desk
ladies are like, hey, be careful. Buck talked about this.
He went to Saint Louis. He was like, hey, is
there anywhere to walk to go get something to eat?
And they were like, well, you can't walk anywhere. What
are we talking about that? This is just considered to
be a normal part of discourse. This is something that
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is significant. Let's let cops do the job. Let's put
bad guys behind bars. Let's make everyone women in particular
safe in every big city in America. That seems like
a very reasonable goal. And I think it's an important
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I was talking about Memphis, and every state has a
city just about where you even within the construct of
the of the state, where there may be places where
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it's a little bit unsafe, there's one city where everybody's like,
you really better be careful there. I mean, that's unfortunately
where we are in the country right now, and for
my home state of Tennessee, it's Memphis. And I'm just
kind of astounded over how commonplace it has become in
many of our biggest cities to just tell people, yeah,
(16:37):
you really shouldn't go out after dark. This bonkers that
this has just become accepted common discussion that you're staying
in a hotel or you live in that city yourself,
and people just say, yeah, hey, maybe just don't go
out after dark.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, I know, you may need something. Baby's hume hungry.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Uh, you've got you've got to go get some formula,
or you've got to go get milk or cereal, or
kids are gonna be hungry in the morning.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Maybe just wait till dawn and go get it.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Excuse me, is this like the Walking Dead are their
vampires just everywhere, and they might descend upon you.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
This is the world we're in right now.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
And we have grown to accept it, and frankly, we
shouldn't and we shouldn't accept. Hey, well, the rates are declining,
so we shouldn't be complaining about this. Any rate of
violent crime of a significant degree in any city of
America that makes people change their behavior should not be acceptable.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Period.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Let's let cops do their job, Let's put bad guys
behind bars, and let's use Washington, DC as a duel
for the nation to explain what we could do to
make things better.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
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pound two five zero, say Clay and Buck. Welcome back in, Clay,
Travis Buck Sexton show. Joining us now is the next
governor of my home state of Tennessee, Senator Marsha Blackburn,
who announced yesterday that she would be running for governor
next year. Senator Blackburn, appreciate having you on. I've given
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you this praise before, but I do think it's important.
I'm not sure there's anyone in public service right now
who is more responsible for the state of Tennessee being
a huge destination point than you. And for those of
you out there who do not know, Senator Blackburn, long
before she was a senator, led the opposition to a
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state income tax in Tennessee, and as a result, I
bet it's almost like I feel like every week I
meet someone who has moved from another state, and one
of the first things they say is, I did not
want to pay state income tax elsewhere. So I'll let
you take a bow for that to start. But I
imagine that's evidence and anticipation of what you would like
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to continue to do when you are elected governor.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
You're exactly right, and thanks for having me on. You know,
when the people of this state joined with me and
we defeated that state income tax, it forced our state
to reset how they do business, to skinny up the bureaucracy,
and to get their fiscal health in order without burdening
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the people of the state with a state income tax,
which allows you to have a city income tax, which
allows you to have a county income tax. And many
people that are moving to Tennessee are escaping that myriad
of high taxes on their earned income. Now, as we
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look at what President Trump has delivered for the American people,
he said I will drain the swamp. He is sending
education back to the states because he's closing the US
Department of Education. He is sending healthcare back the states,
and energy and regulation and all of this responsibility that
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has been tangled up in Washington, d C. With miles
of red tape. He is sending back to the people
and to the states and local governments. So this is
the chance to reset our state so that as that
authority comes back, we in Tennessee who are great innovators,
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We who believe in a.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Small central government.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
What we will do is position ourselves to be America's
conservative leader for decades to come.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
What do you think We're talking to Senator Marsha Blackburn,
who has announced he's running for governor. You just ran
through there a lot of the things you want to do.
How do you think the job of senator, where you
have been for a little while, is going to be
different than governor? And why do you think you're better
suited as governor going forward?
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Well, one of the things that pertains to both of
those into all public service that I think is important
is that you realize you are there to be responsible
to the people, which is something we have always done.
And I think it's also important to.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Realize that leadership means that you actually lead people, you manage.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Assets, and that is something I have a great track
record of doing. It is up to the governor of
the state to.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Set that agenda.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
We know in Tennessee the primary issues that people are
focused on are having a world class economy and jobs
and jobs growth, wage growth, having educational opportunity in a
world class education for our children so that they're able
to fill those jobs, advance manufacturing and research work, and
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a technology advance money emerging technology jobs that are coming
into the state. And the other is the issue of crime,
public safety, and illegal immigration. How that figures in to
that public safety in crime. So these are all being
sent back to the States, and that's what Tennesseeans are
wanting to see action on.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I was just talking about the fact that on my
last trip to Memphis, my middle son had an athletic event.
I realized that I had forgotten a cell phone charger.
And when I went down to the front desk at
the hotel, it wasn't even very late, eight thirty o'clock,
eight thirty at night something like that. The front desk
agent said, will be really careful going out to go
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get a cell phone charger. Memphis has fallen apart. You've
been in this state for a while. I know there's
tons of people in Memphis listening to us right now
nodding along. How do we make Memphis in particular safe
for good people of whom there are tons in that city?
What can be done? You hear President Trump talking about
(24:08):
Washington d C. Memphis has a way higher rate of
violent crime than Washington, d C. And Washington DC's too high.
What can we do?
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Yes? And one of the things that I've done, and
by the way, State Senator Brent Taylor in Memphis is
doing a remarkable job. I've done a lot of work
with him, and he has endorsed me in this run
for governor. And one of the things that I've done
is work with Cash Patel, who's the director at the FBI,
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in Attorney General Pambondi, and we have surged FBI resources,
in federal law enforcement resources into Memphis because it is
imperative that we break apart these gangs that are there
in Memphis and the surrounding area.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
So that is one.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Thing that we have done. Another thing in working with
the elected leaders of Memphis, realizing that the after school hours,
the time between two o'clock in the afternoon and six o'clock,
that is a high propensity time for juvenile crime. So
(25:23):
the after school Act and this is something I'm working
on doing a round table with leaders in Memphis next week.
The After School Actives, which would put resources in the
hands of organizations to make certain that they are providing
programs for young people so that they have somewhere to
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be during those after school hours. We also Senator Haggerdy
and I have a piece of legislation restoring law and
order that would put resources in the hands of local
law enforcement so that they are able to enforce it,
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really enforced the law and get these criminals off the streets.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
We're talking to Senator Marshall Blackburn, who has announced yesterday
that she is running for governor of Tennessee. You are
going to remain in the Senate while this campaign continues.
You reference Senator Hagerty and all the work there. I
know Buck talked to you about this. Buck is out
with his family for the weekend, but I told him
that I would ask you about it. There is a
(26:33):
huge shortage of good pilots, as I'm sure you are aware,
and this has been a major discussion, and there right
now is a retirement age for pilots that's mandatory my understanding,
even though many of the pilots are still incredibly skilled,
They're able to do the job, They're able to pass
all the tests. What can we do, and certainly this
(26:54):
has been a big topic of conversation after the unfortunate,
awful incident that happened in the DC area where so
many people lost their lives. What can we do to
ensure that the best pilots can continue to pilot for
us going forward. What's the latest on that?
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Yes, and Buck and I discuss the legislation that I
have that raises the retirement age for pilots. What has happened.
Pilots are pushed out of the cockpit on commercial flights
when they turn sixty five. The day they turn sixty five. Now,
it's sort of silly to believe that at sixty four
(27:37):
they are capable, but when the clock ticks over on
that day of their birthday, they are no longer capable
to flight. So what pilots are doing is working for
charter flights and working for corporations once they hit that
retirement age. So raising that retirement age so they can
(27:59):
stay in the cockpit as long as they are meeting
the medical test and the health requirements for a pilot
and having them instead of once a year twice a
year do those medical checks. But everybody knows we need
(28:19):
more pilots.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
I mean, my goodness. So many of us.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Have race to the airport and gotten through security and
we make it to the gate with kids and luggage
and tow and then we find out that we're waiting
on the crew. The plane is there, but.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
The crew is not there.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
So we're delayed fifteen thirty minutes an hour waiting for
the crew, and we're worried about making the connection on
the next flight so we can get to the destinations.
So a way to help solve that is by increasing
this age by which pilots are allowed to stay in
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the cockpit. It's a good piece of legislation, and you're right.
There are a lot of good things that we're working
on and we'll continue to work on until we get.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
Sworn in as governor.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
And our Kids Online Safety Act, a privacy bill for
consumers in the virtual space, we have never done that.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Those need to be passed.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
We have legislation to protect people from AI and some
of those arms to put some guardrails in place.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
We need to do that.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
We're going to continue working to confirm good judges, constitutional
originalists judges to the court. That will be on our plate.
Our community care for veterans is something we've made a
tremendous amount of headway on this year, and we are
(29:55):
continuing to push that so veterans get the care they need,
where they need it, when they need it, without having
to drive two or three hours to the VA hospital
and sit in the waiting room and wait half the day.
So we're making headway on community care. Our moving agencies
out of DC, we're making headway there. Secretary McMahon at
(30:17):
the Department of Education is really devolving that and removing it.
You've got the USDA Secretary rollins our works there. They've
moved about half the USDA staff out of DC and
those jobs are now and regional offices across the country.
(30:40):
So we've got a lot on our plate. We are
working every single day solving problems for Tennesseeans and doing
our best to make certain that America is going to
be running on this America First agenda and that we
are going to make Tennessee ameers America's conservative leader in
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this work that we are doing with President Trump.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
If people want to support your campaign where should they.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Go Marsha Blackburn dot com. We would love to have
their support. We're working hard every day to earn the
support of each and every Tennessee and outstanding.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
We appreciate the time. Good luck on the campaign and
congrats on the announcement.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
Thanks so much. See you play Gobe.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
That is Senator Marsha Blackburn, who I think will be
the next governor of the state of Tennessee. We'll take
some of your calls, some of your talkbacks coming forward. Reminder,
we're headed to North Carolina for the big Senate race
there with Michael Wattley in the next hour, and then
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you rolling through with us. Appreciate Marsha Blackburn there
with us. On the last segment, there's a lot of
great reactions rolling in variety of different subjects. Bow writes
in until city, states, and federal government make parents responsible
(33:41):
for what their under eighteen kids do, crime will not
be abated. If parents could be arrested and jailed for
the unlawful acts of their children, then maybe things will change. Okay,
this is a complicated subject, right, because what we have
actually seen is the parents that are getting charged are
(34:08):
typically related to gun crime. I got three kids. I
think if one of my kids at under eighteen ran
around with a gun and was shooting it, I happened
to think that I should be responsible as a parent
for that. Civilly, that would likely be the case, right.
(34:29):
I think this is a really kind of fascinating question.
I think it's complex, but I appreciate Bo writing it
in on the VIP email line. Civilly, So let me
just kind of walk you through this. If if your
kid is driving around in a car and they get
in an accident and they are sixteen years old, and
they're at fault, mom and dad gets sued. Everybody out
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there that has ever had a sixteen year old car
driver knows that is the case. Sixteen year old is
a minor driving, typically under a parent's car that they
have purchased in some way, parents paying for car insurance.
That's very common. If a sixteen year old takes a
gun and mows down ten people, typically the parent could
(35:17):
be sued civilly and would be in a wrongful death lawsuit.
You could be responsible for millions of dollars in damages,
but you're typically not criminally responsible. Now that has changed.
I think it was Oxford, Michigan, where they prosecuted the
parents of a school shooter because they were aware the
(35:39):
kid had a gun. There were aspects of his behavior
that the parents should have been aware of. I think
that that is not a crazy idea. Okay, generally speaking,
I think that's not a crazy idea. I think what
you will see is a lot of parents will say, oh,
(36:00):
I had no idea, But shouldn't you be aware as
a parent if your kid has access to firearms and
has mental health related issues? I think you should, And
so I think that turns into a very complicated issue. Actually,
I'm curious two a two one eight two two eight
(36:21):
a two what do you guys think about that? I
definitely think we need to attack violent crime, underage crime.
Judge Janine has an interesting idea I'm going to play
for you when we come back. Associated with that, we
will also talk about the census and how it should
be applied. My one concern when it comes to charging
(36:42):
parents is they're going to charge parents that are that
are gun owners oftentimes, and not people out there who
just have stolen guns.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Let's talk about it.
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