June 10, 2026 • 36 mins
In Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Buck Sexton hosts solo while Clay Travis testifies before Congress, setting the stage for a wide-ranging discussion of major political news, criminal justice issues, and policy developments under President Donald Trump. Buck opens the hour by highlighting President Trump’s wide-ranging press conference, describing it as a “Trumpethon” covering critical topics including Iran, border security, crime policy, and even proposed structural changes to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI). The broadcast emphasizes Trump’s active leadership style and signals potential policy shifts aimed at streamlining intelligence operations and strengthening national security. A major focus of Hour 1 is Trump’s signing of the Secure America Act, a key immigration and border security bill designed to fully fund Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). Buck underscores that this legislation reinforces one of the central pillars of Trump’s second-term agenda: restoring border security, increasing deportations, and reducing illegal crossings. He details new data showing historically low border apprehensions and rising deportation numbers, framing these developments as evidence of a dramatic reversal from prior immigration policies. The discussion positions immigration and the economy as the two dominant issues shaping the upcoming midterm elections, with Buck noting voter concerns over inflation, rising gas prices, and the geopolitical impact of tensions with Iran. Foreign policy is another major theme in Hour 1, as Buck analyzes President Trump’s escalating pressure campaign on Iran, including recent military strikes and ongoing negotiations aimed at preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. He discusses how global instability—particularly in the Middle East—may be contributing to rising energy costs and inflation, warning that these economic pressures could have political consequences despite strong immigration enforcement progress. Buck emphasizes the importance of balancing national security priorities with economic realities as Republicans head into a critical election cycle. The hour also includes significant coverage of high-profile crime and criminal justice cases, including the conviction of Carmelo Anthony in Texas for murder. Buck strongly supports the jury’s verdict and sentence, framing the case as a clear example of the rule of law prevailing in a senseless act of violence. He expresses concern about public reactions to the verdict, particularly commentary that frames the case through a racial lens rather than focusing on individual accountability. This leads into a broader discussion of crime trends, cultural attitudes toward law enforcement, and a separate New York City incident in which a man was fatally shot after asking someone to lower noise levels on public transit—highlighting concerns about public safety and societal norms. Throughout Hour 1, Buck ties these stories together with commentary on media narratives, political polarization, and cultural tensions, reinforcing the show’s conservative perspective on governance, law enforcement, and individual responsibility. He also previews upcoming guests, including Senator Rand Paul and Ann Coulter, who will provide further insight into immigration policy, economic concerns, and the national conversation surrounding crime and justice. Overall, Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a comprehensive overview of the day’s top news, focusing heavily on immigration policy, Trump administration priorities, inflation concerns, foreign policy challenges with Iran, and major criminal justice developments—all framed within the broader context of the upcoming midterm elections and America’s political future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. It's Wednesday, everybody, It's Clay and Buck time.
Although today just Buck Clay doing his civic duty on
Capitol Hill where he is testifying some big time stuff
testifying before Congress. We'll bring you some of the highlights
of that. I want to save most of it though,
(00:20):
for when Clay is back he can tell you himself.
We've got a lot of news because Trump is I
just had to turn it off because I'm on air.
He was doing a press conference until a couple of
minutes ago. He covered everything. It was a Trump athon.
Everything he's talking about Iran, He's talking about the border,
about crime, about the d NI. Trump is saying the
(00:43):
DNI needs to be chopped down a lot and maybe
go away. Maybe someone's been listening to the Clay and
Buck Show just saying everybody, Uh, that just came out. Now, guys,
make sure you pull that clip, by the way, because
the Buckster wants to take a little little mini bow
on that one. It was funny, actually, just a little oh,
a little inside baseball for you. We were all geared
(01:05):
up to watch our man Clay testifiing on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
We all were the whole team right in New York.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I'm here in Miami. We're all about to text. We
see Clay sit down. By the way, he was wearing
a jacket and tie. I barely even recognize the guy.
It felt like he was going in for a job
interview somewhere, like Clay's in a jacket and tie. I
bet he's wearing flip flops under the desk. Nonetheless, he's
about to start, and then they go they make that
we're watching the Fox fed. They make that breaking news
sound at Fox and go, wait, what's going on Clay's about?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
And they jump to President Trump, who's doing the press.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I'm like, oh, man, if you're gonna get big footed,
as they say by somebody when you're on TV, best
at it be Trump, because no shame in that game.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
He is the leader of the free world. But will
bring some of.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
The highlights from Clay's excellent testimony on the NFL, which
is a subject he is very deep on, and I
am a I have no idea what about that stuff.
I don't even watch the NFL. We've got that to
talk about. We got all the Trump stuff from the
press confidence we are going to dive into.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
We have.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Some important crime stories to discuss. I know a lot
of you know this, but just to bring us all
up to speed, Carmelo Anthony in Texas convicted right after
we got off air yesterday, convicted of murder. Now, I
was a little bit, honestly concerned that because they were
(02:26):
able to get a manslaughter possibility for the jury, that
maybe they would a lot of times juries even if
they know someone did the criminal act. I'll go, well,
you know, we'll kind of go down the middle on
this one. Jury returned exactly the right verdict and beyond that,
which was which was murder, okay, so the more severe
(02:48):
the more severe count, and then beyond that he got
thirty five years. So they really made a statement here.
They decided that the the facts in this case, which
we've discussed a bit on the show, the facts in
this case were.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Really not in dispute.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It was just a question of if someone says something
you don't like to you, can you just pull out
a knife and stab them in the heart. Basically, and
fortunately for civilization, for rule of law, for people of
all races, religions, colors, genders, you name it. This Texas
jury and this court of law came back with no,
(03:33):
you're not allowed to just stab someone in the heart
because you didn't like them asking you to go somewhere
else when you're not supposed to be where you are.
So that was It's encouraging insofar as it's the right
judicial verse. It is also, though still worth noting, the
metcalf family has been shattered by this, by the murder
(03:55):
of their wonderful young man for absolutely no reason, completely sensely.
So it's a tragedy, but at least there's some justice
to put closure to the tragedy, although I know people
who deal with violent crimes will often say that closure
is not really possible, but you do the best you can,
and as a society, at least we have seen the
(04:15):
right outcome here. I bring all that up because there
were people outside that trial and we won't get to
some of this, who are outraged at the verdict. I
did not see anyone on video who was non black
who was outraged at the verdict. I'm not saying that
didn't exist. I'm just saying all the clips that I
have seen and that we have pulled today for the
(04:37):
show are black supporters of Carmelo Anthony who are not
saying things like I am sad for his family.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
This was a tragedy.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
He made a terrible mistake, and I think that maybe
the punishment is more severe or something like that. I
would disagree that the punishment is too severe, but at
least there's some moral framework to that. They're just saying,
I can't believe he was convicted.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
This is awful.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
They apparently think that a young black man should be
able to stab a young white man in the heart
for no reason and get away with it because the
legacy of racism in this country. Something like that. It's
really disturbing to see, and we will talk more about
that later on the show. Because there's also in New
York City a really upsetting, another really upsetting case where
(05:27):
you had someone who just asked And this this one
hits home for me because I am that guy who
will ask the person in let's say, the quiet car
on Amtrak, to like, please stop shouting into your phone,
like we all agreed by sitting here. You agree to
the rules, and there are rules, and I tend to
be that person. I don't like this term that people
(05:48):
used to use Karen because in my experience, a lot
of quote unquote Karens are heroes actually, and they are
standing on the wall. They are saving us from the
bar barbarism of people who just don't want to think
about anyone else, who just don't want to pay attention
to any rules, who have no consideration for their fellow
human beings. But a man asks someone on the subway
(06:10):
to lower the volume on his speakerphone conversation, and the
person the quote teen. We can look at the statistics
and have about a ninety five percent probability of knowing
who this teen is in terms of profile. He shot
(06:30):
him a death, shot him a death for asking, hey,
can you lower the volume on that? Then the person
gets really angry. The quote unquoteen probably eighteen or nineteen.
I really the way they deploy this word teen is
so it's so interesting because when you're nineteen, are you
technically a teen? Yes, but you're also a fully legal
(06:52):
adult in all matters save drinking and rental cars. I
think I don't think there's anything else that you are
bar from at nineteen. I also think it's worth noting
that there are seventeen year olds who joined the Marine
Corps and correct me, any of any of you leathernecks
out there if I'm wrong, but I believe that you
can get permission. I think people have joined the Marine
(07:12):
Corps at seventeen. I think my friend dj Shipley, former
Navy seal, I think he joined the Navy at seventeen.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
So you know, this.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Notion of like, oh, it's a teen, there is a
world of difference in every respect, and especially those of
you who are parents that have raised raised your children
through to adulthood know this. The difference at a thirteen
year old and an eighteen year old than just understanding
of the world and culpability and everything else is massive.
So to call both a teen when you're talking about
(07:42):
a violent murder, okay, Well, you know there's a whole
lot more culpability rather and usually capability as well for
somebody who's eighteen or nineteen. Anyway, I'll talk more about that.
We have some updates also on the California election situation
and Graham Plattner. They're going with Graham Platner. Everybody up
(08:06):
in Maine they have not decided that this guy is
I don't know, dare I say too toxic?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Is that the is that the preferred.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Way to describe him, but a couple things. Let's get
to the national policy level, and then I will want
to drill down on the crime situation. And of course
our lines are open. We'd love to chat with you
if you have any questions you want or guys, is
play testifying?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Is he done? Or is there more coming up?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Let me know, because I was gonna say, we can
get if you have any specific things that you want
addressed about the NFL stuff, maybe he could answer in
one of his breaks, because again I don't know it's
something about anti trust and football games.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
That's not something I'm that into.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
So President Trump first of all, signed the Secure America
Act this morning to fully fund CBP and Immigration and
Custom Enforcement. Now this is good for a variety of reasons.
Good for a variety of reasons. One, it is the
(09:11):
President following through on not only of course funding these agencies,
but also pushing back the focus to securing our border.
Here this is cut to. This is Trump this morning,
just before we came on here, about an hour before
at the White House.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Here he is play it this morning.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I'm thrilled to sign the Secure America Act immediately and
fully fund the Department of Homeland Security through the end
of my term, so we won't have that to be
talking about it. We'll give the heroes of Ice and
Border Patrol, and that's what they are, the heroes for
what they have to go through to keep us safe,
(09:53):
to support and resources they need to defend our borders,
protect our homeland and to keep America safe.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
So they're funded, which is good. Now we need to
see a massive effort. I think this is very important
for the midterm elections. It's also just important for the
country to focus in on the agenda of rule of
law when it comes to immigration, and that means a
whole lot of deportations. Of course, maintaining a secure border.
(10:26):
This is one of the fundamental promises of Trump's second term,
and I know they've been very active on it. I
know the numbers reflect that this has been something that
they are achieving at least in part, or they are
in progress on. They are making progress on it. But
this stuff with Iran, I'm going to tell you right now,
everybody who's we've gone from oh wait, why are we
(10:50):
don't talk about the Iran thing? It's just helping the
Democrats or whatever, to guys You've got people who are
ringing the alarm bell inside the GOP who are saying
that this price issue is going to be a real
problem for us in the midterms.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
You can disagree with it. I can disagree with it
and I.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Don't like it, meaning I don't want people to be
making determinations about the future of this republic based upon
short term gas prices.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But that is political reality. We live in reality here.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
We do not do the the there, I say manufactured
delusion stuff. And you've had food prices now a whole
range of things going up as of this morning, Gasoline
is up forty percent, fuel oil is up fifty nine percent.
Inflation four point two percent today overall, but things like
(11:45):
meat is up about eight percent. I mean, a whole
bunch of different food stuffs. Daily necessity items are more expensive.
The prices because of this Iran situation have started a
trend in the wrong direction. This is not pull it fatal.
I'm not saying it's not worth it necessarily to try
to prevent it on from getting a nuclear weapon. I'm
(12:06):
just saying Trump now with his team looking at the
issue of immigration as something to really focus in on
alongside prices, but immigration between now and election day could
make a huge difference because.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's go time, right, this is it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
But Trump really has one more year after the midterm
to implement the agenda before we get into a presidential
election year. There'll be things he can do, they'll be
executive orders, et cetera. But if we lose control of
the House, you're limited. If you lose control of the Senate,
you're really limited in what Trump will be able to accomplish.
(12:46):
So you know, you have to think of it in
those terms. You've basically got one more if we hold
the line in this midterm election, which is going to
require the GOP to have a focus on domestic issue
specifically the economy and the border or the economy and immigration.
If we all the line, then you have another year
(13:07):
where really important things can get done. If we lose,
obviously we keep fighting. We never were happy warriors, but
it's gonna be a lot more challenging. So that's why
Trump's executive order, I'm sorry, Trump, it's not an executive order.
That's why Trump's signing the Secure America Act, the law
to fully fund CBP and ICE is a strong move.
(13:29):
We need more of that we'll bring you some more
of the highlights from Trump this morning. We'll also talk
a bit about the aftermath of the Carmelo Anthony verdict.
Verdict of guilty of murder, and it was the right outcome,
but the conversation around this now tells us a lot
about both criminal justice and racial dynamics in America that
(13:50):
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We're going to dive into the highlights of Trump's press
conference from I mean, he just went for an hour.
It was a trumpetoon. The guy's incredible, so much stamina.
(15:33):
We also have some great guests today on the program.
Senator Ran Paul will be with us and he was
with President Trump when he was signing that Secure America Act,
a fully fun CBP and ice. You can talk to
him a bit about that, what it does and why
that's so important. Also get his read I think on
where things how things are looking with the Senate, and
(15:54):
he might have a little bit of a little bit
of a sour note on the Iran inflation situation. But hey, guys,
we always tell you the truth, you know. That's the thing.
I view you all like Clay and I have the
same attitude about this, we really do. We view you
all like family members, so we're all on the same team.
But sometimes sometimes you're gonna be like, I don't like
what you're saying on that thing, but if it's the truth,
and I think it's the truth, rather, I'm gonna tell
(16:16):
it to you. So I'm a little concerned about that
inflation piece, for sure. I know people are really ticked
off about gas prices, and I'm trying to convince my
wife to get a Tesla. But that's a whole other conversation.
We also have Ann Calter is gonna join us. Trust me,
I think you're gonna really enjoy hearing her analysis of
the Carmelo Anthony case and some of the bruhaha around it.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
If you will.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
She is always always fierce in her defense of justice,
so we'll talk about that with her, for sure, and
I think that will be great. That's the third hour
of the program coming up here though, Peers. Where things
stand as of this morning, Trump is now we're going
(17:00):
into Trump is setting the table a bit with this
press conference. We're going into a summer season where things
are gonna slow down quite a bit. Congress is gonna
go into recess, and there's still negotiations ongoing about the
Iran Straight of Horror Moves situation. There's the Israeli Israel
(17:21):
piece of this as well, and making sure that there's
a ceasefire multiple angles. I really believe that there is
still time. There's still time to get this trending in
the right directions so that there won't be a political
come upance, if you will.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
For this.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
As of the mid term election results, we also have
to look at what's going on with California. Steve Hilton
is still very much in it to win it. But
we'll talk to tomorrow. I actually wud be tomorrow, Ryan
Gerdusky about the vote counting, and just what a mess
all that is because, like I say, got to be specific.
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Speaker 4 (19:08):
But very simply the radical left democrats, And don't I
look forward to the day when I don't call them
democrats anymore.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
And I won't if they do their job, if they
want to stop crying, if they want.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
To lower taxes, if they want.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
To do the come of the education, the good things.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
There's so many things we can do together.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
I look forward to the day that I don't call
them democrats anymore.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
There'll be that day, I think, I hope.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
But they will.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Voted with the cartels, the terrorists and the gang members,
the drug.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Dealers, human traffickers, the child pred and are a.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Great Republican majorities voted to protect law abiding American citizens.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
The day will come, he says, what I might not
call them the democrat.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I don't know if that day will come.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Actually, pretty well, I'm not sure that day will ever actually,
but it could theoretically. He's right, it could theoretically happen.
Let's just take a look at this for a second.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
You have.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
President Trump's second term I'm looking at all the stats
here FROMCBP data, illegal immigration at historic lows, Interior re
enforcement and deportations ramped up significantly. So you have fiscal
year twenty twenty five Southwest border patrol apprehensions two hundred
(20:34):
and thirty thousand. That is the lowest, my friends, since
nineteen seventy, so that's fifty six years. Okay, think about that.
Monthly trends under Trump consistently low, often under nine to
ten thousand Southwest apprehensions per month. No note this apprehensions
(21:00):
are a number. That's really interesting because if if you
look at what happened under Biden, because they were inviting people,
the apprehensions were so high that you knew the border
was essentially flooded because they were only able to catch
a certain amount before the whole system is overwhelmed. So
(21:21):
you know, if you're apprehending ten than twelve thousand a day, okay,
with Trump, it has been nine thousand maybe a month.
So those are people who are trying to run drugs in,
maybe trying to sneak in because they know if they
get any kind of if they get caught by border patrol,
they're actually going to get turned around and deported.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
But when you have ten thousand a day coming in,
it's a free for all.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
I actually saw this at the southern border myself, where
it was just people were showing up, they were turning
themselves in, and then a mile down the border people
were going across. And if you're at the Rio grand Is,
go fast boats across the little little you know, speedboats
or people were just running or getting in a pickup truck.
(22:08):
It was just it was a free for all. That's
the best way. It was like a jail break across
our southern borders. People running everywhere and some were walkings.
They were turning themselves in because you couldn't handle it
because everyone knew that they were going to get to
stay under Biden.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And that's what happened. A disaster.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Trump is trying to fix this, but it's really hard.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
If somebody think about it this way, If somebody allowed
a flood at the top floor of your house and
they allowed the water to get up to, you know,
knee height, it's a lot harder to deal with what
happens below. It's a lot harder to deal with it.
After the fact that it just turned off the flood
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than to prevent in the first place. Right, same thing
with the legal immigration. So, by the way, that was
the earlier months, it's actually down. Apprehensions are down to
more like six thousand now because US people know, oh,
they're actually serious. The word gets around to the illegal
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migrant community, to the smugglers, to the cartels. Oh Trump
is not playing games here. So you have less apprehensions
going on because they realize the chance of getting into
the country is so much lower. So the risk profile
for the lawbreakers here, for the criminals, it's much higher.
(23:29):
So this is all very very good deportations and removals.
So you're at about fiscal year twenty five. Again I
pulled this data from CBP at other sites. Fiscal year
twenty five, you're at four hundred and forty two thousand. Now,
that's not a lot when you think about the ten
(23:49):
plus million illegals that came in the country. However, we
have seen a large number of over two point two million.
I think it's more like two point four million, but
over let's say two point four million ish self deportations.
So you have three million people under Trump in a
(24:12):
year and a half who are not supposed to be
in this country. Who are gone. It's larger than the
city of Chicago by population. That's that would be the
second biggest city in the Actually, how big is LA guys,
I don't know how big La is. It's La is
like many The whole notion of Los Angeles as a
city is kind of it's like many cities connected. LA
(24:34):
County's vast, So put that aside. But the point is
it's huge. Three million people is a lot. But this
is why I was telling you, you've got to now
get to more here, You've got to get this number.
I don't want to say these are rookie numbers and
we want to pump those numbers up, but I kind
of do want to say that because if Trump can
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get a few million more before the end of his term,
not not only does that dramatically decrease the pressure that
all these illegals have put on the system, particularly in
New York and the major cities. And you're seeing all
the fraud that's going on. I mean, isn't that incredible?
When we had Steve Hilton on and you know, God
bless him, he's just he is ice skating uphill with
(25:17):
his whole California guy. But he's doing it. I mean,
he's actually gaining ground. But it's a tough slog in
that Democrat state for a whole bunch of reasons. And
he tells us that they're NGOs, that you know, those
NGOs are getting government money one way or another, grants.
The whole grant system, it seems, is just a way
for left wing politicians to siphon taxpayer money to left
(25:41):
wing NGOs to help support the policies and the power
of the left wing politicians. Self licking ice cream cone.
But you see that he has he talked to us
about how they're these illegals in California who are doing
ballot harvesting, so they're actively assisting the Democrat Party people
that aren't even supposed to be in the country. That
(26:03):
tells you, I think a lot. That's a really good
summation of what.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Has been happening.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
But with Trump getting three million between those sent out
of the country and those who have left because they
realize they're not going to be able to stay and
maybe maybe the ice detainer was already out on them
for those for that number to grow is obviously really important.
It also shows us that we can turn this around.
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Don't forget where we have come on this issue. As
you know, immigration I think is one of the most
important issues in the country long term. I mean, it's
tied into the economy in so many ways that it's
hard to even separate them as these issues that aren't
completely interrelated. Long term, it's as important as anything. I mean,
you could say the economy and immigration I think are
the two most important domestic issues, and therefore the most
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important issues that we face as a country. And demographics
are destiny and all or demographics is destiny is plural.
All these things really matter. And so that's why I
wanted to give you that those numbers, and that's why
Trump signing that law this morning to fund CBP and ICE.
This is really important because as these numbers increase, it
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shows what is possible and for the next administration, hopefully
Republican administration, whether it's Vance or Rubio or whomever, they
can say, guys, this work needs to continue. Where we
have been up to this point has been a series
of lies about just the biggest lies about immigration, whether
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it was in turn one, walls don't work. These are asylum.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Seekers, They're not asylum seekers, they're scammers. They're not seeking asylum.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
They want to skip the immigration line, going to stay
in the country and get access to welfare and the
American benefits as fast as possible. That's what millions and
millions of people, that was what was going on. And
you know, I was exposing that at the time and
doing a lot of research into that, but that became widespread,
widespread Democrat talking point that there are asylum seekers, that
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the wall, wall won't help, walls don't work, that you
can't secure the border. That really became the Biden position.
It's just too oh, it's it's broken. It's broken. You
know what, we'll fix our broken border. The Biden Democrats
were always implying, if not outright saying, amnesty rewarding everybody
who came to legally. That's going to stop more illegals.
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That was their that was their baseline theory. That was
the quintessential fraud. That was the pinnacle lie that the
Democrats were offering on that issue.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Trump has secured the border.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Trump has deportations happening in uh, you know, in the millions. Now,
m let's just say removals and or self deportations in
the millions, and that shows what is possible, and it
shows that we do not have to just allow our
borders to dissolve in our country, to fade away into
an economic zone, into a place where they're really there
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are different sets of laws depending on who you are
and where you arrive and all this stuff. So that
part of it is I think really encouraging. All right now,
on Iran, this was other news from the press conference
just before we came on the air. Here this is
cut twenty one. Trump says, we're hitting Irun today. Listen,
if they had a.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Nuclear weapon, could be no Israel, there'd be no Middle East,
and they would have absolutely shot at us.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
So we'll see what happens. But we hit them.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
Hard yesterday, and we're going to hit them again hard
today in case you Missif case you don't turn on
your television set, and we'll see what happens with the deal.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
We're really close to a deal, but they keep tapping
us along, they keep playing us for suckers, because you
know what they dealt with some very stupid presidents. I
have to say that I'm embarrassed to say some very
stupid people were sitting there.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
He's saying We're going to keep the pressure on and
eventually we're gonna get where we need to be with
the Iranians on this deal. Like I said, he there's
still the time. If we were sitting here with the
numbers how they are currently looking on some of this stuff,
and it were late August or at least September, I'd
say things are getting a little a little tight. I
think there's still time to get things right sized or
(30:29):
right sided on this, and that's that's my most optimistic
view of it. I'll say that I've known, as you know,
that the negotiations are going to drag on and there
was no deal imminent for a few months now, because
I know how Middle Eastern negotiations work, and that means
that Trump is going to have to figure out a
way to break through this logjam.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I think he's I'm hopeful he'll be able to do
it all right.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
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as they come in. We have some interesting stuff coming
in from Trump. I wanted to know this one guys.
This is twenty four So Poulty is going to be
Trump's interim Director of National Intelligence. He does not have
an intel background at all, but he does have a
management background. A private sector business guy, management background, and
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Trump spoke about this, but notably to me.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
He said.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
He said, they're thinking about really shaking things up at
the DNI as an institution, as a bureaucracy, and something
we've talked about here on the show. So listen to
twenty four.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
He posted a faulty and then he'd started a job early.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
He said, he's gonna be downif you talk about.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
You what he had.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
People have wanted that downsize for a long time, but
many people don't want it at all.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
A lot of people thought it was a duplication.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
He's done a great job at Fannie May and you know,
you take Freddie mc fatimack. The value of that has
increased so much since I've been enjoyed. And I put
him in charge as soon as I got here, and
he's done an amazing Jeb could be worth a triviion
dollars so.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Well, I know, but you know, smart people are smart people.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
I always say they have smart experience, but experience is
good too. I would say this. He's going to be
there for a short while we pick somebody else. We're
interviewing five different people that are all very good, very
different and we'll put somebody there.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
But people want it downsized.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
It should be downsized. I think it should be downsized
to zero actually over time. And there's plenty of reasons
that I've discussed with you before here on the program
for that, but most notably, it is a coordination agency
that does not have the necessary authority to force any coordination.
(34:04):
So if the if the CIA and the NSA are
in some squabble about that, and if you've never worked
in the Intel community, I know that sounds like what
but it happens all the time, all the time. The
agencies are always having some food fight over whose food
it is, you know, who's in charge, who has primacy,
who's information, who gets to get into the White House
(34:24):
to see the President on this or whatever it is.
The DNI is supposed to be a coordination agency, but
really you should just give that a I mean, honestly,
you should just give that authority the CIA director and
allow them, you know, allow them to be.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Allot the CIA to do this. So that's what I
think needs to happen.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I think the CIA should just have that role for
the Intel community, and going forward, that will save us
a lot of taxpayer dollars and a lot of nonsense.
Because let me tell you something, the CIA director does
not feel like the d n I.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Calls the shots. It's gonna tell you that right now. Okay,
just just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
And the CIA director cannot be fired by the DNI
and work in really any of the you know, CIA personnel,
and the whole thing is a bureaucratic mess. They're over
you just you can just google it. You'll see there's
over a thousand employees of the DNI. What are they
all doing?
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I think, what are they doing?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Of course it's duplicative. There's no special authority that the
d n I has. They just get it. It's just
another voice squabbling inside the the intel community. Ten so
there needs to be massive reform, uh in the intel
community in general. And I see as we call it.
But beyond that, you know, I just think if Poltye's
(35:46):
going in there to just be kind of the bureaucratic
hatchetman and take care of some business before they have
another DNI in there, maybe it actually makes sense. He
does not know anything about intelligence, but he's a smart guy,
according to Trump, and so he'll be able to figure
it out and he's got a limited mission set, so
now now it makes more sense if they're not going
to keep him in there for the long haul, because
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then it would be this is not a learn on
the job situation. So anyway, I am. I'm just saying,
we talk about it here in the show. Trump is like,
some people are saying, get rid of the de and
I like, yeah, like us, and I think that that
would be a big savings and it could help to
bring back some streamlining and some sanity into that that
(36:30):
part of the world.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
So yeah, that's that's something that's very good.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I want to dive into the Carmelo Anthony verdict here
coming up in a second, and just have a discussion
about crime in general. I'm sure a lot of you
are going to have some very pointed opinions on this
as well, so definitely get on the lines, give us
the talkbacks, and we'll be back with you here shortly
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. It's Wednesday, everybody, It's Clay and Buck time.
Although today just Buck Clay doing his civic duty on
Capitol Hill where he is testifying some big time stuff
testifying before Congress. We'll bring you some of the highlights
of that. I want to save most of it though,
(00:20):
for when Clay is back he can tell you himself.
We've got a lot of news because Trump is I
just had to turn it off because I'm on air.
He was doing a press conference until a couple of
minutes ago. He covered everything. It was a Trump athon.
Everything he's talking about Iran, He's talking about the border,
about crime, about the d NI. Trump is saying the
(00:43):
DNI needs to be chopped down a lot and maybe
go away. Maybe someone's been listening to the Clay and
Buck Show just saying everybody, Uh, that just came out. Now, guys,
make sure you pull that clip, by the way, because
the Buckster wants to take a little little mini bow
on that one. It was funny, actually, just a little oh,
a little inside baseball for you. We were all geared
(01:05):
up to watch our man Clay testifiing on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
We all were the whole team right in New York.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I'm here in Miami. We're all about to text. We
see Clay sit down. By the way, he was wearing
a jacket and tie. I barely even recognize the guy.
It felt like he was going in for a job
interview somewhere, like Clay's in a jacket and tie. I
bet he's wearing flip flops under the desk. Nonetheless, he's
about to start, and then they go they make that
we're watching the Fox fed. They make that breaking news
sound at Fox and go, wait, what's going on Clay's about?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
And they jump to President Trump, who's doing the press.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I'm like, oh, man, if you're gonna get big footed,
as they say by somebody when you're on TV, best
at it be Trump, because no shame in that game.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
He is the leader of the free world. But will
bring some of.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
The highlights from Clay's excellent testimony on the NFL, which
is a subject he is very deep on, and I
am a I have no idea what about that stuff.
I don't even watch the NFL. We've got that to
talk about. We got all the Trump stuff from the
press confidence we are going to dive into.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
We have.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Some important crime stories to discuss. I know a lot
of you know this, but just to bring us all
up to speed, Carmelo Anthony in Texas convicted right after
we got off air yesterday, convicted of murder. Now, I
was a little bit, honestly concerned that because they were
(02:26):
able to get a manslaughter possibility for the jury, that
maybe they would a lot of times juries even if
they know someone did the criminal act. I'll go, well,
you know, we'll kind of go down the middle on
this one. Jury returned exactly the right verdict and beyond that,
which was which was murder, okay, so the more severe
(02:48):
the more severe count, and then beyond that he got
thirty five years. So they really made a statement here.
They decided that the the facts in this case, which
we've discussed a bit on the show, the facts in
this case were.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Really not in dispute.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It was just a question of if someone says something
you don't like to you, can you just pull out
a knife and stab them in the heart. Basically, and
fortunately for civilization, for rule of law, for people of
all races, religions, colors, genders, you name it. This Texas
jury and this court of law came back with no,
(03:33):
you're not allowed to just stab someone in the heart
because you didn't like them asking you to go somewhere
else when you're not supposed to be where you are.
So that was It's encouraging insofar as it's the right
judicial verse. It is also, though still worth noting, the
metcalf family has been shattered by this, by the murder
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of their wonderful young man for absolutely no reason, completely sensely.
So it's a tragedy, but at least there's some justice
to put closure to the tragedy, although I know people
who deal with violent crimes will often say that closure
is not really possible, but you do the best you can,
and as a society, at least we have seen the
(04:15):
right outcome here. I bring all that up because there
were people outside that trial and we won't get to
some of this, who are outraged at the verdict. I
did not see anyone on video who was non black
who was outraged at the verdict. I'm not saying that
didn't exist. I'm just saying all the clips that I
have seen and that we have pulled today for the
(04:37):
show are black supporters of Carmelo Anthony who are not
saying things like I am sad for his family.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
This was a tragedy.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
He made a terrible mistake, and I think that maybe
the punishment is more severe or something like that. I
would disagree that the punishment is too severe, but at
least there's some moral framework to that. They're just saying,
I can't believe he was convicted.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
This is awful.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
They apparently think that a young black man should be
able to stab a young white man in the heart
for no reason and get away with it because the
legacy of racism in this country. Something like that. It's
really disturbing to see, and we will talk more about
that later on the show. Because there's also in New
York City a really upsetting, another really upsetting case where
(05:27):
you had someone who just asked And this this one
hits home for me because I am that guy who
will ask the person in let's say, the quiet car
on Amtrak, to like, please stop shouting into your phone,
like we all agreed by sitting here. You agree to
the rules, and there are rules, and I tend to
be that person. I don't like this term that people
(05:48):
used to use Karen because in my experience, a lot
of quote unquote Karens are heroes actually, and they are
standing on the wall. They are saving us from the
bar barbarism of people who just don't want to think
about anyone else, who just don't want to pay attention
to any rules, who have no consideration for their fellow
human beings. But a man asks someone on the subway
(06:10):
to lower the volume on his speakerphone conversation, and the
person the quote teen. We can look at the statistics
and have about a ninety five percent probability of knowing
who this teen is in terms of profile. He shot
(06:30):
him a death, shot him a death for asking, hey,
can you lower the volume on that? Then the person
gets really angry. The quote unquoteen probably eighteen or nineteen.
I really the way they deploy this word teen is
so it's so interesting because when you're nineteen, are you
technically a teen? Yes, but you're also a fully legal
(06:52):
adult in all matters save drinking and rental cars. I
think I don't think there's anything else that you are
bar from at nineteen. I also think it's worth noting
that there are seventeen year olds who joined the Marine
Corps and correct me, any of any of you leathernecks
out there if I'm wrong, but I believe that you
can get permission. I think people have joined the Marine
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Corps at seventeen. I think my friend dj Shipley, former
Navy seal, I think he joined the Navy at seventeen.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
So you know, this.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Notion of like, oh, it's a teen, there is a
world of difference in every respect, and especially those of
you who are parents that have raised raised your children
through to adulthood know this. The difference at a thirteen
year old and an eighteen year old than just understanding
of the world and culpability and everything else is massive.
So to call both a teen when you're talking about
(07:42):
a violent murder, okay, Well, you know there's a whole
lot more culpability rather and usually capability as well for
somebody who's eighteen or nineteen. Anyway, I'll talk more about that.
We have some updates also on the California election situation
and Graham Plattner. They're going with Graham Platner. Everybody up
(08:06):
in Maine they have not decided that this guy is
I don't know, dare I say too toxic?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Is that the is that the preferred.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Way to describe him, but a couple things. Let's get
to the national policy level, and then I will want
to drill down on the crime situation. And of course
our lines are open. We'd love to chat with you
if you have any questions you want or guys, is
play testifying?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Is he done? Or is there more coming up?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Let me know, because I was gonna say, we can
get if you have any specific things that you want
addressed about the NFL stuff, maybe he could answer in
one of his breaks, because again I don't know it's
something about anti trust and football games.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
That's not something I'm that into.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
So President Trump first of all, signed the Secure America
Act this morning to fully fund CBP and Immigration and
Custom Enforcement. Now this is good for a variety of reasons.
Good for a variety of reasons. One, it is the
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President following through on not only of course funding these agencies,
but also pushing back the focus to securing our border.
Here this is cut to. This is Trump this morning,
just before we came on here, about an hour before
at the White House.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Here he is play it this morning.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I'm thrilled to sign the Secure America Act immediately and
fully fund the Department of Homeland Security through the end
of my term, so we won't have that to be
talking about it. We'll give the heroes of Ice and
Border Patrol, and that's what they are, the heroes for
what they have to go through to keep us safe,
(09:53):
to support and resources they need to defend our borders,
protect our homeland and to keep America safe.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
So they're funded, which is good. Now we need to
see a massive effort. I think this is very important
for the midterm elections. It's also just important for the
country to focus in on the agenda of rule of
law when it comes to immigration, and that means a
whole lot of deportations. Of course, maintaining a secure border.
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This is one of the fundamental promises of Trump's second term,
and I know they've been very active on it. I
know the numbers reflect that this has been something that
they are achieving at least in part, or they are
in progress on. They are making progress on it. But
this stuff with Iran, I'm going to tell you right now,
everybody who's we've gone from oh wait, why are we
(10:50):
don't talk about the Iran thing? It's just helping the
Democrats or whatever, to guys You've got people who are
ringing the alarm bell inside the GOP who are saying
that this price issue is going to be a real
problem for us in the midterms.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
You can disagree with it. I can disagree with it
and I.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Don't like it, meaning I don't want people to be
making determinations about the future of this republic based upon
short term gas prices.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But that is political reality. We live in reality here.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
We do not do the the there, I say manufactured
delusion stuff. And you've had food prices now a whole
range of things going up as of this morning, Gasoline
is up forty percent, fuel oil is up fifty nine percent.
Inflation four point two percent today overall, but things like
(11:45):
meat is up about eight percent. I mean, a whole
bunch of different food stuffs. Daily necessity items are more expensive.
The prices because of this Iran situation have started a
trend in the wrong direction. This is not pull it fatal.
I'm not saying it's not worth it necessarily to try
to prevent it on from getting a nuclear weapon. I'm
(12:06):
just saying Trump now with his team looking at the
issue of immigration as something to really focus in on
alongside prices, but immigration between now and election day could
make a huge difference because.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's go time, right, this is it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
But Trump really has one more year after the midterm
to implement the agenda before we get into a presidential
election year. There'll be things he can do, they'll be
executive orders, et cetera. But if we lose control of
the House, you're limited. If you lose control of the Senate,
you're really limited in what Trump will be able to accomplish.
(12:46):
So you know, you have to think of it in
those terms. You've basically got one more if we hold
the line in this midterm election, which is going to
require the GOP to have a focus on domestic issue
specifically the economy and the border or the economy and immigration.
If we all the line, then you have another year
(13:07):
where really important things can get done. If we lose,
obviously we keep fighting. We never were happy warriors, but
it's gonna be a lot more challenging. So that's why
Trump's executive order, I'm sorry, Trump, it's not an executive order.
That's why Trump's signing the Secure America Act, the law
to fully fund CBP and ICE is a strong move.
(13:29):
We need more of that we'll bring you some more
of the highlights from Trump this morning. We'll also talk
a bit about the aftermath of the Carmelo Anthony verdict.
Verdict of guilty of murder, and it was the right outcome,
but the conversation around this now tells us a lot
about both criminal justice and racial dynamics in America that
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We're going to dive into the highlights of Trump's press
conference from I mean, he just went for an hour.
It was a trumpetoon. The guy's incredible, so much stamina.
(15:33):
We also have some great guests today on the program.
Senator Ran Paul will be with us and he was
with President Trump when he was signing that Secure America Act,
a fully fun CBP and ice. You can talk to
him a bit about that, what it does and why
that's so important. Also get his read I think on
where things how things are looking with the Senate, and
(15:54):
he might have a little bit of a little bit
of a sour note on the Iran inflation situation. But hey, guys,
we always tell you the truth, you know. That's the thing.
I view you all like Clay and I have the
same attitude about this, we really do. We view you
all like family members, so we're all on the same team.
But sometimes sometimes you're gonna be like, I don't like
what you're saying on that thing, but if it's the truth,
and I think it's the truth, rather, I'm gonna tell
(16:16):
it to you. So I'm a little concerned about that
inflation piece, for sure. I know people are really ticked
off about gas prices, and I'm trying to convince my
wife to get a Tesla. But that's a whole other conversation.
We also have Ann Calter is gonna join us. Trust me,
I think you're gonna really enjoy hearing her analysis of
the Carmelo Anthony case and some of the bruhaha around it.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
If you will.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
She is always always fierce in her defense of justice,
so we'll talk about that with her, for sure, and
I think that will be great. That's the third hour
of the program coming up here though, Peers. Where things
stand as of this morning, Trump is now we're going
(17:00):
into Trump is setting the table a bit with this
press conference. We're going into a summer season where things
are gonna slow down quite a bit. Congress is gonna
go into recess, and there's still negotiations ongoing about the
Iran Straight of Horror Moves situation. There's the Israeli Israel
(17:21):
piece of this as well, and making sure that there's
a ceasefire multiple angles. I really believe that there is
still time. There's still time to get this trending in
the right directions so that there won't be a political
come upance, if you will.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
For this.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
As of the mid term election results, we also have
to look at what's going on with California. Steve Hilton
is still very much in it to win it. But
we'll talk to tomorrow. I actually wud be tomorrow, Ryan
Gerdusky about the vote counting, and just what a mess
all that is because, like I say, got to be specific.
You know, I'm a heading up to an event here
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Speaker 4 (19:08):
But very simply the radical left democrats, And don't I
look forward to the day when I don't call them
democrats anymore.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
And I won't if they do their job, if they
want to stop crying, if they want.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
To lower taxes, if they want.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
To do the come of the education, the good things.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
There's so many things we can do together.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
I look forward to the day that I don't call
them democrats anymore.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
There'll be that day, I think, I hope.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
But they will.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Voted with the cartels, the terrorists and the gang members,
the drug.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Dealers, human traffickers, the child pred and are a.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Great Republican majorities voted to protect law abiding American citizens.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
The day will come, he says, what I might not
call them the democrat.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I don't know if that day will come.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Actually, pretty well, I'm not sure that day will ever actually,
but it could theoretically. He's right, it could theoretically happen.
Let's just take a look at this for a second.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
You have.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
President Trump's second term I'm looking at all the stats
here FROMCBP data, illegal immigration at historic lows, Interior re
enforcement and deportations ramped up significantly. So you have fiscal
year twenty twenty five Southwest border patrol apprehensions two hundred
(20:34):
and thirty thousand. That is the lowest, my friends, since
nineteen seventy, so that's fifty six years. Okay, think about that.
Monthly trends under Trump consistently low, often under nine to
ten thousand Southwest apprehensions per month. No note this apprehensions
(21:00):
are a number. That's really interesting because if if you
look at what happened under Biden, because they were inviting people,
the apprehensions were so high that you knew the border
was essentially flooded because they were only able to catch
a certain amount before the whole system is overwhelmed. So
(21:21):
you know, if you're apprehending ten than twelve thousand a day, okay,
with Trump, it has been nine thousand maybe a month.
So those are people who are trying to run drugs in,
maybe trying to sneak in because they know if they
get any kind of if they get caught by border patrol,
they're actually going to get turned around and deported.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
But when you have ten thousand a day coming in,
it's a free for all.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
I actually saw this at the southern border myself, where
it was just people were showing up, they were turning
themselves in, and then a mile down the border people
were going across. And if you're at the Rio grand Is,
go fast boats across the little little you know, speedboats
or people were just running or getting in a pickup truck.
(22:08):
It was just it was a free for all. That's
the best way. It was like a jail break across
our southern borders. People running everywhere and some were walkings.
They were turning themselves in because you couldn't handle it
because everyone knew that they were going to get to
stay under Biden.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And that's what happened. A disaster.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Trump is trying to fix this, but it's really hard.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
If somebody think about it this way, If somebody allowed
a flood at the top floor of your house and
they allowed the water to get up to, you know,
knee height, it's a lot harder to deal with what
happens below. It's a lot harder to deal with it.
After the fact that it just turned off the flood
(22:46):
than to prevent in the first place. Right, same thing
with the legal immigration. So, by the way, that was
the earlier months, it's actually down. Apprehensions are down to
more like six thousand now because US people know, oh,
they're actually serious. The word gets around to the illegal
(23:07):
migrant community, to the smugglers, to the cartels. Oh Trump
is not playing games here. So you have less apprehensions
going on because they realize the chance of getting into
the country is so much lower. So the risk profile
for the lawbreakers here, for the criminals, it's much higher.
(23:29):
So this is all very very good deportations and removals.
So you're at about fiscal year twenty five. Again I
pulled this data from CBP at other sites. Fiscal year
twenty five, you're at four hundred and forty two thousand. Now,
that's not a lot when you think about the ten
(23:49):
plus million illegals that came in the country. However, we
have seen a large number of over two point two million.
I think it's more like two point four million, but
over let's say two point four million ish self deportations.
So you have three million people under Trump in a
(24:12):
year and a half who are not supposed to be
in this country. Who are gone. It's larger than the
city of Chicago by population. That's that would be the
second biggest city in the Actually, how big is LA guys,
I don't know how big La is. It's La is
like many The whole notion of Los Angeles as a
city is kind of it's like many cities connected. LA
(24:34):
County's vast, So put that aside. But the point is
it's huge. Three million people is a lot. But this
is why I was telling you, you've got to now
get to more here, You've got to get this number.
I don't want to say these are rookie numbers and
we want to pump those numbers up, but I kind
of do want to say that because if Trump can
(24:54):
get a few million more before the end of his term,
not not only does that dramatically decrease the pressure that
all these illegals have put on the system, particularly in
New York and the major cities. And you're seeing all
the fraud that's going on. I mean, isn't that incredible?
When we had Steve Hilton on and you know, God
bless him, he's just he is ice skating uphill with
(25:17):
his whole California guy. But he's doing it. I mean,
he's actually gaining ground. But it's a tough slog in
that Democrat state for a whole bunch of reasons. And
he tells us that they're NGOs, that you know, those
NGOs are getting government money one way or another, grants.
The whole grant system, it seems, is just a way
for left wing politicians to siphon taxpayer money to left
(25:41):
wing NGOs to help support the policies and the power
of the left wing politicians. Self licking ice cream cone.
But you see that he has he talked to us
about how they're these illegals in California who are doing
ballot harvesting, so they're actively assisting the Democrat Party people
that aren't even supposed to be in the country. That
(26:03):
tells you, I think a lot. That's a really good
summation of what.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Has been happening.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
But with Trump getting three million between those sent out
of the country and those who have left because they
realize they're not going to be able to stay and
maybe maybe the ice detainer was already out on them
for those for that number to grow is obviously really important.
It also shows us that we can turn this around.
(26:31):
Don't forget where we have come on this issue. As
you know, immigration I think is one of the most
important issues in the country long term. I mean, it's
tied into the economy in so many ways that it's
hard to even separate them as these issues that aren't
completely interrelated. Long term, it's as important as anything. I mean,
you could say the economy and immigration I think are
the two most important domestic issues, and therefore the most
(26:53):
important issues that we face as a country. And demographics
are destiny and all or demographics is destiny is plural.
All these things really matter. And so that's why I
wanted to give you that those numbers, and that's why
Trump signing that law this morning to fund CBP and ICE.
This is really important because as these numbers increase, it
(27:18):
shows what is possible and for the next administration, hopefully
Republican administration, whether it's Vance or Rubio or whomever, they
can say, guys, this work needs to continue. Where we
have been up to this point has been a series
of lies about just the biggest lies about immigration, whether
(27:41):
it was in turn one, walls don't work. These are asylum.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Seekers, They're not asylum seekers, they're scammers. They're not seeking asylum.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
They want to skip the immigration line, going to stay
in the country and get access to welfare and the
American benefits as fast as possible. That's what millions and
millions of people, that was what was going on. And
you know, I was exposing that at the time and
doing a lot of research into that, but that became widespread,
widespread Democrat talking point that there are asylum seekers, that
(28:10):
the wall, wall won't help, walls don't work, that you
can't secure the border. That really became the Biden position.
It's just too oh, it's it's broken. It's broken. You
know what, we'll fix our broken border. The Biden Democrats
were always implying, if not outright saying, amnesty rewarding everybody
who came to legally. That's going to stop more illegals.
(28:32):
That was their that was their baseline theory. That was
the quintessential fraud. That was the pinnacle lie that the
Democrats were offering on that issue.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Trump has secured the border.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Trump has deportations happening in uh, you know, in the millions. Now,
m let's just say removals and or self deportations in
the millions, and that shows what is possible, and it
shows that we do not have to just allow our
borders to dissolve in our country, to fade away into
an economic zone, into a place where they're really there
(29:10):
are different sets of laws depending on who you are
and where you arrive and all this stuff. So that
part of it is I think really encouraging. All right now,
on Iran, this was other news from the press conference
just before we came on the air. Here this is
cut twenty one. Trump says, we're hitting Irun today. Listen,
if they had a.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Nuclear weapon, could be no Israel, there'd be no Middle East,
and they would have absolutely shot at us.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
So we'll see what happens. But we hit them.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
Hard yesterday, and we're going to hit them again hard
today in case you Missif case you don't turn on
your television set, and we'll see what happens with the deal.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
We're really close to a deal, but they keep tapping
us along, they keep playing us for suckers, because you
know what they dealt with some very stupid presidents. I
have to say that I'm embarrassed to say some very
stupid people were sitting there.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
He's saying We're going to keep the pressure on and
eventually we're gonna get where we need to be with
the Iranians on this deal. Like I said, he there's
still the time. If we were sitting here with the
numbers how they are currently looking on some of this stuff,
and it were late August or at least September, I'd
say things are getting a little a little tight. I
think there's still time to get things right sized or
(30:29):
right sided on this, and that's that's my most optimistic
view of it. I'll say that I've known, as you know,
that the negotiations are going to drag on and there
was no deal imminent for a few months now, because
I know how Middle Eastern negotiations work, and that means
that Trump is going to have to figure out a
way to break through this logjam.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I think he's I'm hopeful he'll be able to do
it all right.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
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as they come in. We have some interesting stuff coming
in from Trump. I wanted to know this one guys.
This is twenty four So Poulty is going to be
Trump's interim Director of National Intelligence. He does not have
an intel background at all, but he does have a
management background. A private sector business guy, management background, and
(32:29):
Trump spoke about this, but notably to me.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
He said.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
He said, they're thinking about really shaking things up at
the DNI as an institution, as a bureaucracy, and something
we've talked about here on the show. So listen to
twenty four.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
He posted a faulty and then he'd started a job early.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
He said, he's gonna be downif you talk about.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
You what he had.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
People have wanted that downsize for a long time, but
many people don't want it at all.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
A lot of people thought it was a duplication.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
He's done a great job at Fannie May and you know,
you take Freddie mc fatimack. The value of that has
increased so much since I've been enjoyed. And I put
him in charge as soon as I got here, and
he's done an amazing Jeb could be worth a triviion
dollars so.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Well, I know, but you know, smart people are smart people.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
I always say they have smart experience, but experience is
good too. I would say this. He's going to be
there for a short while we pick somebody else. We're
interviewing five different people that are all very good, very
different and we'll put somebody there.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
But people want it downsized.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
It should be downsized. I think it should be downsized
to zero actually over time. And there's plenty of reasons
that I've discussed with you before here on the program
for that, but most notably, it is a coordination agency
that does not have the necessary authority to force any coordination.
(34:04):
So if the if the CIA and the NSA are
in some squabble about that, and if you've never worked
in the Intel community, I know that sounds like what
but it happens all the time, all the time. The
agencies are always having some food fight over whose food
it is, you know, who's in charge, who has primacy,
who's information, who gets to get into the White House
(34:24):
to see the President on this or whatever it is.
The DNI is supposed to be a coordination agency, but
really you should just give that a I mean, honestly,
you should just give that authority the CIA director and
allow them, you know, allow them to be.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Allot the CIA to do this. So that's what I
think needs to happen.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I think the CIA should just have that role for
the Intel community, and going forward, that will save us
a lot of taxpayer dollars and a lot of nonsense.
Because let me tell you something, the CIA director does
not feel like the d n I.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Calls the shots. It's gonna tell you that right now. Okay,
just just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
And the CIA director cannot be fired by the DNI
and work in really any of the you know, CIA personnel,
and the whole thing is a bureaucratic mess. They're over
you just you can just google it. You'll see there's
over a thousand employees of the DNI. What are they
all doing?
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I think, what are they doing?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Of course it's duplicative. There's no special authority that the
d n I has. They just get it. It's just
another voice squabbling inside the the intel community. Ten so
there needs to be massive reform, uh in the intel
community in general. And I see as we call it.
But beyond that, you know, I just think if Poltye's
(35:46):
going in there to just be kind of the bureaucratic
hatchetman and take care of some business before they have
another DNI in there, maybe it actually makes sense. He
does not know anything about intelligence, but he's a smart guy,
according to Trump, and so he'll be able to figure
it out and he's got a limited mission set, so
now now it makes more sense if they're not going
to keep him in there for the long haul, because
(36:07):
then it would be this is not a learn on
the job situation. So anyway, I am. I'm just saying,
we talk about it here in the show. Trump is like,
some people are saying, get rid of the de and
I like, yeah, like us, and I think that that
would be a big savings and it could help to
bring back some streamlining and some sanity into that that
(36:30):
part of the world.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
So yeah, that's that's something that's very good.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I want to dive into the Carmelo Anthony verdict here
coming up in a second, and just have a discussion
about crime in general. I'm sure a lot of you
are going to have some very pointed opinions on this
as well, so definitely get on the lines, give us
the talkbacks, and we'll be back with you here shortly
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