January 16, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show sets the tone for the day by zeroing in on the three main battlegrounds shaping early 2026: healthcare reform, immigration enforcement, and President Trump’s assertive posture on the world stage. The hour opens with discussion of a Trump-hosted rural healthcare roundtable, where the president sharply criticized Obamacare for funneling resources away from rural hospitals while enriching insurance companies. Clay and Buck explain that Trump is positioning healthcare affordability as a core issue for working Americans, particularly in rural communities that have seen hospital closures, higher costs, and reduced access. Trump argues that despite massive increases in federal spending since Obamacare passed, rural hospitals have received only a fraction of Medicaid funding, reinforcing the hosts’ long-held claim that the law increased costs, expanded bureaucracy, and incentivized fraud rather than improving care.
The conversation expands into a broader critique of the U.S. healthcare system, with Buck highlighting estimates that 10 percent of the entire federal budget is lost to fraud, much of it tied to healthcare and Medicaid. They discuss Wall Street Journal reporting showing that millions of Obamacare enrollees appear to have no healthcare claims at all, suggesting mass auto-enrollment and subsidy abuse. Clay and Buck argue this undercuts Democratic warnings of an “Obamacare apocalypse” if subsidies were reduced, pointing instead to evidence that enrollment declines are largely the result of fraud crackdowns rather than people losing necessary coverage. Trump’s announcement of a $50 billion increase in rural healthcare funding over five years is framed as both policy correction and political reset, aimed squarely at voters Republicans lost in past midterms over healthcare.
Midway through the hour, the focus shifts to the escalating immigration enforcement crisis in Minnesota, which the hosts describe as the Democrats’ primary line of resistance against Trump 2.0. Clay and Buck argue that Democratic officials, including Governor Tim Walz and Minneapolis leadership, are using inflammatory language such as “federal occupation” to energize activists and destabilize ICE operations. They highlight violent incidents, including attacks on ICE agents, the break-in of an FBI vehicle, and the theft of weapons and sensitive materials, warning that this rhetoric is pushing toward an “insurrection-style” confrontation. Clips from Scott Jennings and Stephen Miller reinforce the argument that Minnesota leaders are inciting chaos, not calming it, and that Trump’s threat to invoke the Insurrection Act is increasingly credible as federal officers are targeted.
The hosts contrast Minneapolis with cities like Miami and Nashville, where strong political backing for law enforcement has coincided with historically low murder rates and steep drops in violent crime. They argue the data proves that supporting police works, while demonizing law enforcement produces lawlessness. Buck adds that shrinking illegal immigrant populations could have major downstream effects, including reshaping the 2030 Census and congressional representation, eliminating what he calls a long-standing Democratic advantage.
Hour 1 closes with international developments, as Clay and Buck analyze Trump’s decision not to strike Iran after Tehran abruptly canceled more than 800 scheduled executions of protestors. Trump publicly thanked Iran while simultaneously maintaining pressure by deploying U.S. naval assets, which Buck frames as classic Trump unpredictability and leverage rather than détente. The hour ends with a sober assessment: while Trump successfully shifted Venezuela onto a different trajectory, Iran’s regime appears entrenched for now, and Trump is choosing restraint until conditions make decisive action more effective.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Everybody, Friday, January sixteenth edition of The Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I say it because the
month has gone by. I cannot believe we are already
into twenty twenty six. I'm starting to say the right
year or write it down more so on checks and
things like that. Have been twenty five for the first week,
and Trump is not wasting any time. We had a
(00:22):
rural health round table this morning, which we shall be
discussing here shortly. Healthcare is going to be a big deal.
Caroline Levitt gets into it, gets into it from the
Podius Feisty. She went mama Bear mode on some well
left wing hack to borrow from her Oh at the
with the Hill, a reporter from the Hill. I used
(00:43):
to work at the Hill long time ago. And yeah, interesting.
And then there's more on ice here. This is now
the fight, my friends. This is what it is. They
can't beat Trump on the economy, they can't slow him down.
Maybe the Spreme Court will, but they can't slow him
down on tariffs. But it is in fact on immigration
(01:04):
enforcement that Democrats are making their big stand. Minnesota at
the heart of this whole thing, and we'll give you
more of those details plus Greenland will it become trump Land?
That is something that is very much in the ether.
Clan are talking about this. I think we're gonna have
to do a show from Greenland. This is one of
these things that I've said out loud and now I'm
(01:26):
going to make At first I was kidding, and now
I'm not really kidding. I'm working on this. You have
been diving into this. I am going to I am
happy to go. I am going to before what's the
opposite of Monday morning quarterbacking, I'm going to Friday morning
quarterback this before even the game is played. You and
(01:47):
I are going to get to Greenland and no communication
devices are gonna work. So like we have to bank
an entire show that airs if we just can't get
on the air in Greenland right where we just come
on and we're like, hey, if you're hearing this, probably
means that we are unconnectable somewhere in Greenland. Like this
(02:08):
is definitely a danger. I think that you are underestimating
the telecommunication capacity of NUK, the capital of Greenland.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I have more faith in that.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I have no respect in Nook's communication capabilities as it
pertains to getting us on to five hundred and fifty
five stations in all fifty states.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Thank you for listening.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I have been doing research into this. The best way
for us to get a real sense of what could be.
You know how, there's the Gulf of America. Now this
could be the Greenland of America. We shall see. But
the best way to check it out is dog sledding,
which some of our Minnesota listeners perhaps already engage in sometimes.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
But I've dog sledded before you have. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Laura Travis is a very big fan, having grown up
in Michigan of winter related activities, and so one of
the times when we were out.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
The boys ski. I don't ski.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I'm a you know, dumb redneck who never got on
ski slopes as a young guy. So that's one sport
I don't need to get into. But we got on
the dog sled and it was super I have to say,
it was pretty cool, cold cool. You might be back
on the dog sled, perhaps with some native guides. The
only thing is I need Laura Travis to give permission here.
(03:29):
She's gonna have to like sign that this is okay.
I don't want her mad at me. If you twisted
an ankle or something on the dog sled, or I'm
not knowing.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Where you want to go.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
She's been begging to go to Iceland for some time,
which has become a very popular tourist destination for people
who don't know. No one, however, goes to Greenland at all.
So you and I would be among the first tourists
to visit Greenland from the United States and the history
of the nation.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So that's something that's out there.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
We might wait a little bit because I'm not even
I'm sure you can get flights there right now. We
might wait until the summer season there. So this is
something we'll have to plan out. But clay in Buck's
excellent Adventure Greenland edition might be something that in fact
happens on the show. Let's get into the news for
a second here, Trump talking this morning at this rural
health roundtable. Why does this matter? Well, healthcare matters to
(04:19):
all of us. The cost is outrageous, The system is
a mess. The government intervention in this has been nothing
but disastrous. They've made it worse. Obamacare made it worse
across the board, and specifically, rural areas have gotten the
short end of the stick. On this one, Trump was
(04:40):
talking about Obamacare. This has cut too specifically and how
Medicaid spending, for example, it's pretty much all just going
into the cities, the population centers, and a lot of
Democrat votes there play two.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Rural hospitals and communities were devastated by soarign cost and
that continues despite colossal increase in government spending since Obamacare
was passed. Only seven percent of the annual Medicaid spending
on rural hospitals has gone to rural hospitals, so there's
only a.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Very little They didn't care.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Obama didn't care about the rural community, it'd be totally blunt.
What he did care about is insurance companies. And this
was a bill to make insurance companies wealthy, and they did.
They made insurance companies very wealthy. I would say, they
don't like me too much because they spent hundreds of
billions of dollars and we're going to have that money
(05:33):
spent to the people and given to the people, not
we're going to circumvent the insurance companies.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Clay he recognizes that if you're talking affordability, the single
place where I think people are finding the most pain
over the longest period of time. Is their healthcare costs
or just outrageous? Yes, and Obamacare is a failure. So,
by the way, is the argument that if we stopped
(05:59):
some of these sub cities for Obamacare that remember when
I this was a big topic of discussion. I do
think it's important to come back sometimes when these awful
predictions don't come true and say, hey, remember when we
were all told. I think that the Democrats said seven
million people would lose health insurance if the subsidies were
(06:20):
dialed back for Obamacare. And open enrollment has basically ended,
and there's about a million less people enrolled in Obamacare
than were before. And you might say, okay, well a
million is still a decent number, and okay, but what
seems to be happening buck is and this is why
Democrats the fraud is so rampant in all this healthcare.
(06:41):
A lot of people are getting signed up for Obamacare,
potentially millions of them, and the healthcare companies are getting
subsidies and the healthcare is not being used at all.
So this is real, and I understand a lot of
people out there gets into the nitty gritty.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
We don't talk about it that much.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
A lot of people that have Obamacare now it appears
when they basically have to enroll and have to get
themselves enrolled. The healthcare companies are incentivized to sign up
as many people as possible so they can take advantage
of these subsidies. A lot of the people in Obamacare
never use Obamacare at all. Buck They don't pay even
five dollars. So the healthcare companies are getting paid to
(07:21):
cover people who either don't need the coverage or don't
even know that they have it.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Does that sound like a good system to you? It's
waste with fraud.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It's also not insurance, which we all know from. Do
I pay more for wind insurance here in Miami where
we have hurricanes than people will who you know live
in I don't know. Is Tennessee wind insurance a big thing?
Clay probably not. Well, we have tornadoes? Oh sorry, a tornadoes? Okay, Well,
(07:55):
others probably. I would say Vermont, there's not a time
on a win insurance. I don't think they have very
many tornadoes, hurricanes typically not hitting Vermont. I would bet
maybe you guys are gonna blow me up and tell
me I'm wrong. I would bet that there's not a
lot of concern about wind damage in Vermont. You know,
I have a whole plan that we need to just
make Vermont red right.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It's not hard. We colonize it very easily.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Tennessee could lend us enough Republicans easily to colonize Vermont.
I love Vermont as a state. It's beautiful. I used
to go to camp there in the summers. I highly
highly recommend it to any of you if you can
get there. But it's Bernie Sandersville. I mean, the politics
there are it's pure COMMI it's beautiful place. Anyway, I'll
talk about my Vermont planet. I got Greenland, I got
(08:39):
takeover Vermont for the Republicans. I got a lot of
things going on here. But back to the healthcare thing, Clay,
we don't it's not actually insurance because the whole system
is set up so that people who are young and
healthy are paying for people who are old and sick.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's a transfer of wealth.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
It's a program of incredibly complicated subsidies where the corporations. Also,
because of the way these Obamacare is written in the
way a lot of these bills are written up the corporations,
the companies, the healthcare providers are incentivized to deny a
lot of claims for people. They're incentivized to make sure
(09:18):
that they're making a profit as an administrator of healthcare,
but they don't actually provide healthcare. This is people don't
understand we have this whole system with so much fraud
and wasting it. Medicaid fraud annually, Clay, I think they
estimated is like eighty billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, did you see we.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Talked about this with Scott Besson. He came on and
echoed Elon Musk.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Well, he said ten percent of the entire US budget
is fraud.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yes, six hundred to eight hundred billion dollars, depending on
how you define it as fraud. And he said, we
could probably increase GDP by a substantial margin if we
just reallocated those resources outside of the fraud. And so, yeah,
a huge part of the fraud comes from healthcare, and
obviously we're seeing a huge part of the fraud comes
(10:07):
from any number of federal programs which subsidized state fraud.
Like what really started this whole Minneapolis mess was the
degree of fraud going on in their daycare system, which
led to President Trump's decision to surge resources there for
ice to go after all of the fraud that's taking
(10:28):
place in that community. We should mention this too. We're
talking to Ryan Gardesky next hour. He has pointed out
something that's very significant about this, and we should have
talked about it. Smart credit to him for thinking of it.
The amount of deportations that are occurring is potentially going
to alter to a substantial degree the twenty thirty census
(10:50):
because remember, for purposes of House of Representatives representation, illegal
immigrants are counted in the census, roughly seven hundred and
twenty thousand citizens in each district. In the United States,
four hundred and thirty five districts they counted legal immigrants.
This gives Democrats a plus ten or so benefit at
(11:15):
least in the House. And we're talking about the entire
House of Representatives being decided by a couple of seats,
So starting in twenty thirty, that advantage is going to vanish.
This is one of the big impacts why Democrats are
fighting so hard. Their rigged system is collapsing around them
(11:36):
and they're seeing it happen. Trump also saying here that
they've increased funding for rural health care. You know rural
tends to mean red in this country. This has cut one.
Listen to what the man has to say.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
As part of the great, big, beautiful bill, where increased
and we have increased funding for the healthcare by an
unprecedented fifty billion dollars. That's rural healthcare that was going
to happen, and we got it done. So we have
rural health care. For those that were trying to make
a case that we weren't taking care of the rural community,
(12:09):
I'm all about the rural community. We won the rural
communities by numbers that nobody's ever won them before, and
we're taking care of those great people.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
So we already did this.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
We increased funding for rural health care by an unprecedented
record setting fifty billion dollars over five years, which will
benefit Americans in all fifty cents.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
It's a big deal. Clay Trump fody able to do
what needs to be done. Here, go ahead, he yeah.
I'll hit you with the data when we come back,
because I pulled this up the headline in the Wall
Street Journal editorial page.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I'll hit you with some of these numbers.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
But the editorial is headlined the Obamacare Apocalypse that wasn't
They told you that if these subsidies were dialed back,
that there would be a huge cataclysmic impact on American
health care. It didn't happen. The Wall Street journals got
the numbers. I'll share those with you in a sec
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Speaker 1 (14:22):
Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get
your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Okay,
Wall Street Journal, I just mentioned this, and again I
understand a lot of you don't necessarily get into the
weeds of healthcare policy. But basically, the shutdown happened because
Democrats said, this is going to be an unmitigated disaster
(14:47):
if we don't continue subsidies for Obamacare. So open enrollment
ended Thursday, that is yesterday. According to the Wall Street Journal,
we have about one point four million fewer people who
signed up compared to the twenty twenty five number. Okay,
the Urban Institute said that it would drop by seven
(15:11):
point three million. The Congressional Business Budget Office presumed huge
drops in the number of people that would drop out,
and so the decline, according to the Trump administration, happened
because they cracked down on fraud and the paragon. This guy,
(15:34):
Brian Blasee, says that about twelve million Obamacare enrollees have
no medical claims, suggesting they may have been enrolled in
plans without their knowledge. Fraud may also explain why enrollment
hasn't fallen more.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Think about that, Buck, If you have twenty four million.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
People signed up for Obamacare, doesn't it seem crazy that
half of those people people would have no healthcare claims whatsoever?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yes? In a year? Does I mean?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Think about your life, whatever you do for healthcare. I
bet almost everybody out there listening to us at least
spent a.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Dollar with healthcare.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
All Republicans are saying is in order to be automatically enrolled,
we think you should have to spend five dollars on
healthcare every year. I think what's happened here with Obamacare, Buck,
is it is a huge fraud laced program, and healthcare
companies are getting free rides because they're signing up people
(16:39):
left and right. They're cashing all these subsidy checks without
actually covering people. Because it doesn't make sense that twelve
million people would not have a single health care claim
on Obamacare if it were so integral to overall healthcare
in America. Right, Sometimes the math just doesn't add up. Again,
these are data from the Wall Street Journal. The more
(17:02):
they dig into this, the more you're going to see
what a mess the whole thing is. And this has
been said all along. I'll just point out those of
us who were ringing the alarm bell about Obamacare a
decade and a half ago, basically wherever thirteen years ago,
it's all true. Everything we've said is true. Your healthcare
has just gotten more expensive, access has gotten worse. There's
(17:25):
more government spending involved, so you're paying for more with
your taxes, you're paying for more with your premiums. You're
getting worse care, you're having longer waits, all of it
gets worse. So that illegals can be covered. I mean,
let's really get into this, so that healthcare companies can
not the place, not the people that are actually like
fixing you, the places that determine who gets to fix
(17:47):
you so that their profits are nice and fat, so
that hospital systems can become these massive private equity owned
you know, profit centers.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
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Speaker 2 (18:57):
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Speaker 1 (18:57):
Things continuing to heat up over immigrations and customs enforcement
in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Democrats making this there now is it their waterloo or
our waterloo? Right?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
All depends which side of waterloo are you on, the
Napoleon side or the other side, the Wellington side of things.
But they're making this their big stand against the Trump administration.
And we've seen some really outrageous things, you know. To Clay,
there was the breaking into an FBI car and they
stole I believe a long gun like an AR fifteen
(19:34):
type rifle out of the car. That you do, they've
arrested that guy. You do not want to steal a
FBI agent's gun. They will they will not take kindly
to that. That is a serious crime and you will
get into a and as you should, get into a
lot of trouble for it. Scott Jennings up on a
CNN making the case here that the government officials in
(19:56):
Minnesota are inciting I mean they're actually ma this whole
situation worse. This has cut seventeen Listen to our man
Scott laying it down.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
The accusation has been by conservatives, including by you Scott,
that he's been inciting violence.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
But we just played it there.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Okay, you cherry picked a handful of comments.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Did you play the comment.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Where he said we're under a federal occupation.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
That language that inciting good? Of course it is.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
What does that language sound like to you? You have
wolves and Fry and Flannagan and the rest of these
Democrats in Minnesota radicalizing and propagandizing their constituency telling them things.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
That aren't true.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
And what has happened. One lady went out and got
into a very very sad and unfortunate situation.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Three Venezuelan.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
The illegals came out and tried to beat an ICE
agent to death with a shovel. Hordes of people in
the street vandalized and raided ICE vehicles and stole weapons,
kevlar and documents and docks. People on the internet last night,
do you believe they are listening to Tim Walls when
he talks about peace or do you think they're listening
to Tim.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Federal Gune.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Good points there from Scott. They are clearly using language
that is meant to inflame this situation, to make it worse.
Stephen Miller, he's straight up calling them. Steven Miller's great,
He's great. Have you seen the clips that are circulating
just as an aside of Steven Miller when he was
at Duke and the Duke Lacrosse case, and he don't
want to take a shot at Stephen here, but he
(21:27):
had hair and Steven Miller with hair is a very
different image than Steven Miller without hair. But yes, he
was one hundred percent right. For those of you who
remember the fake accusations, one hundred percent false against the
Duke Lacrosse kids when they were accused of raping strippers,
black strippers, white across. Oh my god, they were. They
(21:50):
were immediately tarred and feathered. That was even buck in
a pre social media era. Yeah, because I don't even
know how that case would have played out in a
social media era, but it was. I think fantastic lies
were what one of the players said about those accusations,
and Stevin Miller was on calling out it for bs.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
He was right on that.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Even back in the day I remember that one, even
talking among friends and family being like that, the whole
thing's a lie. It was very obvious, but the New
York Times front page kept hitting it as though it
was a story of race and class playing out once
again as it always does. No, the whole thing's a lie.
That's not how it plays out. Actually the whole thing
was false anyways, Steven Miller, that clip has been circulating
(22:30):
here he is talking about the insurrectionist This is cut
nineteen in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Hit it in Minnesota. Right now. The insurrectionists have come
out of hiding. They're confronting our officers on the street.
They're being arrested. This is a national security priority. More
arrests the disrectionists are being made every day, and each
of those are rests. That provides an opportunity to learn
(22:57):
more about the net work from in law enforcement and
national security standpoint.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yep insurrectionist clay. When you're attacking law enforcement in a
group in ambush situations to prevent them from doing what
you oppose, both locally and at a national level, it
does feel pretty insurrection y. And Trump has even said
if this doesn't stop, he will invoke the Insurrection Act.
(23:25):
Well not only that buck, and I think President Trump
is right about this. Think about how crazy these left
wing activists are to be showing up in ten degree
weather engaging in acts of violence against people who did
you see the Department of Whole Land Security just posted
(23:46):
a video or sorry, a photo.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I'm sure probably a video too.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
But I saw the photo of one of the guys
that they arrested for engaging in violence of Venezuela illegal
that should have never been here. Now, look, should never
judge a book by its cover, I will say, however,
all right, I mean, I don't know how many people
out there in our audience.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Are covers, say a lot some covers tell you this
cover if you have if you have face.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Tattoos, what do you think the rate of violent crime
is for face tattoo guy compared to non face type
tattoo ten x the general I was going to say
one hundred to one, one hundred times as likely. I
think I think if you have a face tattoo, I
think you are one hundred times as likely. It's all men,
(24:38):
by the way, I don't think that many chicks have
face tattoos. If you are a man with a face tattoo,
I think you are one hundred times as likely to
have committed a violent crime or have a violent criminal
history as someone that does not have a face tattoo.
And I think that might even be low Buck was
going to go ten and when I say, you look
(24:58):
at this guy, and he got a arrested and Tommy
larn posted a response on this. But who the faces
are of the arguments you make matter? And the fact
that Democrats are consistently picking guys with violent crimes, who
are illegally in this country to be their face of
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opposition is not helping them.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I think in general, now here is the challenge.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Because I was reading from Axios this morning on it Buck,
Democrats are having some success in convincing people who are
not like most of our listeners and are not like
you and me, that this ice, these ice raids are
unacceptable and politically unpopular, and so I think that the
(25:51):
question Axios This was the Axios lead in their Morning
Digest that I was reading this morning as I was
getting ready for the show. I think the question is
is how do you combat this idea that the left
has put in place that these are innocent people primarily
that are being taken out of the country when I
think the reality is most of the people that are
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being taken out of the country are violent perpetrators that
we know they are criminals because they are legally here,
so they certainly are criminals. But I do think that's
the question. I don't think Democrats have gotten the right
face of the anti ICE protest yet. I think they
wanted Renee Good to be that face. They've used her more.
It's better, I think, probably for them than killmar A
(26:37):
Breo Garcia or certainly these dudes who were arrested that
got into that one of them was shot in Minneapolis.
But did you see Jacob for I come out and say, basically,
we only have six hundred cops and we've got three
thousand ICE agents in the country. Maybe we'll play that
cut for you later in the show or in the
city rather. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the city. One reason
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they only have six hundred cops is because they can't
fill the existing police officer openings, because they've been so
disrespectful and lacking in backing up their police officers that
if you could choose, like hey, do I want to
be in Minneapolis or do I want to be in Miami,
you know, hey, I think I'd rather be a cop
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in Miami. They'll actually have my back. There are lots
of places out there where cops are supported. Minneapolis is
not one of those places.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You know how many murders there were in.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
The city of Miami clay and I think it was
last well, twenty twenty four is the last one that
we have. The full crime data for Miami has about
six hundred thousand people in it. There are thirty homicides
in Miami.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Not all. That's pretty incredible. It's just not a lot
of by the way going on here.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
What you would say, what I would build on top
of that is city of Miami might have six hundred
thousand people. Actually, the Miami proper is probably what like
five or six million would be my guess. Metro Miami
is probably five or six million, would be my guess.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, I bet.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Really, you could just do it with Miami Dade County,
which with Miami Dade has three million people, so it's
about three million. So I bet the surrounding community of Miami,
if you take in the metropolitan area, I bet there
was only buck sixty five murders in all of Miami
when you add up all, that's my guests in all
of Miami Metropolitan proper. In other words, it's not just
(28:29):
the city Miami Proper that's safe. It is my goodness
that area in general is super super safe. And that
is the case. For instance, where I live in Nashville.
Nashville had seventy murders. Metro Nashville had like seventy three. Right,
So if you actually count outside of the downtown district
(28:49):
and combine everybody who lives there, there's basically no murders
like taking place. I think we had a sixty year
low in Nashville. Here here we have a wonderful thing
where and it's even more so. And I have friends
on the Miami Beach Police Department specifically, which is a
different city technical than By the way, there were no
actually say no, I mean if there were if there
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were any murders.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
In Miami Beach last year, it was like three.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
It was very very few, because they usually fold that
in with Miami overall. To your point, but here here's
why this matters policy wise, why it matters from Minneapolis,
and why it's part of our discussion.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Play.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
You have support for the cops in the city of
Miami and in the state of Florida from Governor Ron
De Santis and Attorney General Uth Meyer on down. So
they know if you're doing if you're a cop here,
first of all, they like you, We like you, Thank
you for doing what you're doing. This is true across
the state of Florida. And if you're.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Doing the right things, they've got your back. Yes, and
there's not there's not gonna be in this nonsense. You're
seeing these.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Other places where we throw cops to the angry mob.
That's some sort of a race communism, offering to the
god something. We don't do that here, no doubt. And
by the way, the impact is tangible in the data.
As many things are positive, it's not getting that much
attention to the grand scheme of things. Not only is
(30:12):
the murder rate collapsing nationwide, the biggest drop that we've
ever seen according to FBI data. How about buck We'll
talk about this maybe a little bit later, and certainly
it's a big story worth paying attention to. Fentanyl deaths,
that is, overdose deaths are collapsing in the United States.
One of the biggest drops we have ever seen just
(30:35):
took place in twenty twenty five do you think that
maybe possibly shutting down the southern border and making it
harder for people to cross into this country, do you
think that, maybe possibly that might have had a big
impact on the safety of so many people in this
country when it comes to drug overdose deaths, poisonings, very
(30:58):
often the case. By the way, we'll hit you with
this and maybe some analysis. This just popped President Trump.
We've been talking about the tension in Iran, President Trump
tweeting or truthing. I suppose I greatly respect the fact
that all scheduled hangings which were to take place yesterday,
(31:18):
over eight hundred of them, have been canceled by the
leadership of Iran.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
A little bit of an interesting Uh again, you never
know what exactly Trump has got planned, because there is
a carrier, I think Storming, Steaming, maybe Storming. Abraham lincoln
favorite aircraft carrier as my favorite. Good Old named one
of his sons after the carrier or the president. Yeah,
(31:48):
that's right, my middle son. But so we'll see whether
this is a little bit of a dial back that
is intentional and maybe not respected in terms of its
long range impact.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
But that was just posted.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
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news and Trump's Trump has said thank you to Iran
for not executing eight hundred people. By the way, eight
hundred executions, Buck, Iran has a population of ninety million.
(33:45):
This would be like the United States and one day
And some of you are like, hey, well maybe they
maybe this is one thing that Aaron got right, But
this would be like the United States and one day
executing four thousand people something like that as a percentage
of population. And most of these people that they were
going to execute were protesters presumably here though, are they
(34:07):
going to let them out, well this is some hell
whole prison and beat them and torture them and maybe
eventually execute them one by one.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I mean, this is the problem. Here is what Trump said. Again,
I gave it.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
This is the latest information on what is going on
with Iran. I greatly respect the fact all scheduled hangings,
hangings which were to take place yesterday, over eight hundred
of them, according to President Trump, had been canceled by
the leadership. Thank you is in your mind? Buck, as
a former CIA skilled analyst, is this Trump sending up
(34:39):
a false flag of positivity while steaming the Abraham Lincoln
into the Middle East with potential other actions coming, or
does it represent in your mind a legitimate thaw in
relations in any way? No, I think this is Trump
didn't believe that there was an option for US strikes
that would bring an end to the regime, and so
(35:02):
he looked at the options and said, we'll take something
else here. I don't think that he's preparing to hit Iran.
I think that this was a situation unlike Venezuela, where
our leverage, our control, the opposition in place, all of
those things were not strong enough for Trump to feel
justified in taking kinetic action. So that means the regime's
(35:25):
going to stay, by the way, which is what I
told you guys all along. I said, if Trump doesn't
do something, the regime's not going for sure, He's not.
I don't think he's going to do anything, which means
this regime is staying, which probably means that he's been
told that his strikes would not have toppled the regime
exactly what he decided not to make the decision to
do it. Yeah, so why send the Abraham Lincoln into
(35:46):
the Middle East as leverage because Iran doesn't know right,
I mean, Clay, it's it's all about the unpredictability of Trump.
That's where he is right now. He can changes mine
next week. Yes, so you know he might decide something
on that menu of options he was provided is necessary
(36:07):
in fact, or maybe something changes with leverage inside of Iran.
But whereas I have high confidence that it'll be a
little messy. But Venezuela is going to start to be
put in a much better trajectory Iran. I don't think
that we necessarily could have even gotten the outcome we
want of the Mulla's falling. So just with strikes, I
(36:27):
don't think it'd be enough. We will update you on more.
There continued fallout. The opposition leader was in the White
House yesterday and gave Trump her Nobel Peace Prize. I
believe we'll talk about that and more. Second Hour plus
our buddy Ryan Gardusky on redistricting, Fat's coming
Welcome in Everybody, Friday, January sixteenth edition of The Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I say it because the
month has gone by. I cannot believe we are already
into twenty twenty six. I'm starting to say the right
year or write it down more so on checks and
things like that. Have been twenty five for the first week,
and Trump is not wasting any time. We had a
(00:22):
rural health round table this morning, which we shall be
discussing here shortly. Healthcare is going to be a big deal.
Caroline Levitt gets into it, gets into it from the
Podius Feisty. She went mama Bear mode on some well
left wing hack to borrow from her Oh at the
with the Hill, a reporter from the Hill. I used
(00:43):
to work at the Hill long time ago. And yeah, interesting.
And then there's more on ice here. This is now
the fight, my friends. This is what it is. They
can't beat Trump on the economy, they can't slow him down.
Maybe the Spreme Court will, but they can't slow him
down on tariffs. But it is in fact on immigration
(01:04):
enforcement that Democrats are making their big stand. Minnesota at
the heart of this whole thing, and we'll give you
more of those details plus Greenland will it become trump Land?
That is something that is very much in the ether.
Clan are talking about this. I think we're gonna have
to do a show from Greenland. This is one of
these things that I've said out loud and now I'm
(01:26):
going to make At first I was kidding, and now
I'm not really kidding. I'm working on this. You have
been diving into this. I am going to I am
happy to go. I am going to before what's the
opposite of Monday morning quarterbacking, I'm going to Friday morning
quarterback this before even the game is played. You and
(01:47):
I are going to get to Greenland and no communication
devices are gonna work. So like we have to bank
an entire show that airs if we just can't get
on the air in Greenland right where we just come
on and we're like, hey, if you're hearing this, probably
means that we are unconnectable somewhere in Greenland. Like this
(02:08):
is definitely a danger. I think that you are underestimating
the telecommunication capacity of NUK, the capital of Greenland.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I have more faith in that.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I have no respect in Nook's communication capabilities as it
pertains to getting us on to five hundred and fifty
five stations in all fifty states.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Thank you for listening.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I have been doing research into this. The best way
for us to get a real sense of what could be.
You know how, there's the Gulf of America. Now this
could be the Greenland of America. We shall see. But
the best way to check it out is dog sledding,
which some of our Minnesota listeners perhaps already engage in sometimes.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
But I've dog sledded before you have. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Laura Travis is a very big fan, having grown up
in Michigan of winter related activities, and so one of
the times when we were out.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
The boys ski. I don't ski.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I'm a you know, dumb redneck who never got on
ski slopes as a young guy. So that's one sport
I don't need to get into. But we got on
the dog sled and it was super I have to say,
it was pretty cool, cold cool. You might be back
on the dog sled, perhaps with some native guides. The
only thing is I need Laura Travis to give permission here.
(03:29):
She's gonna have to like sign that this is okay.
I don't want her mad at me. If you twisted
an ankle or something on the dog sled, or I'm
not knowing.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Where you want to go.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
She's been begging to go to Iceland for some time,
which has become a very popular tourist destination for people
who don't know. No one, however, goes to Greenland at all.
So you and I would be among the first tourists
to visit Greenland from the United States and the history
of the nation.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So that's something that's out there.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
We might wait a little bit because I'm not even
I'm sure you can get flights there right now. We
might wait until the summer season there. So this is
something we'll have to plan out. But clay in Buck's
excellent Adventure Greenland edition might be something that in fact
happens on the show. Let's get into the news for
a second here, Trump talking this morning at this rural
health roundtable. Why does this matter? Well, healthcare matters to
(04:19):
all of us. The cost is outrageous, The system is
a mess. The government intervention in this has been nothing
but disastrous. They've made it worse. Obamacare made it worse
across the board, and specifically, rural areas have gotten the
short end of the stick. On this one, Trump was
(04:40):
talking about Obamacare. This has cut too specifically and how
Medicaid spending, for example, it's pretty much all just going
into the cities, the population centers, and a lot of
Democrat votes there play two.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Rural hospitals and communities were devastated by soarign cost and
that continues despite colossal increase in government spending since Obamacare
was passed. Only seven percent of the annual Medicaid spending
on rural hospitals has gone to rural hospitals, so there's
only a.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Very little They didn't care.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Obama didn't care about the rural community, it'd be totally blunt.
What he did care about is insurance companies. And this
was a bill to make insurance companies wealthy, and they did.
They made insurance companies very wealthy. I would say, they
don't like me too much because they spent hundreds of
billions of dollars and we're going to have that money
(05:33):
spent to the people and given to the people, not
we're going to circumvent the insurance companies.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Clay he recognizes that if you're talking affordability, the single
place where I think people are finding the most pain
over the longest period of time. Is their healthcare costs
or just outrageous? Yes, and Obamacare is a failure. So,
by the way, is the argument that if we stopped
(05:59):
some of these sub cities for Obamacare that remember when
I this was a big topic of discussion. I do
think it's important to come back sometimes when these awful
predictions don't come true and say, hey, remember when we
were all told. I think that the Democrats said seven
million people would lose health insurance if the subsidies were
(06:20):
dialed back for Obamacare. And open enrollment has basically ended,
and there's about a million less people enrolled in Obamacare
than were before. And you might say, okay, well a
million is still a decent number, and okay, but what
seems to be happening buck is and this is why
Democrats the fraud is so rampant in all this healthcare.
(06:41):
A lot of people are getting signed up for Obamacare,
potentially millions of them, and the healthcare companies are getting
subsidies and the healthcare is not being used at all.
So this is real, and I understand a lot of
people out there gets into the nitty gritty.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
We don't talk about it that much.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
A lot of people that have Obamacare now it appears
when they basically have to enroll and have to get
themselves enrolled. The healthcare companies are incentivized to sign up
as many people as possible so they can take advantage
of these subsidies. A lot of the people in Obamacare
never use Obamacare at all. Buck They don't pay even
five dollars. So the healthcare companies are getting paid to
(07:21):
cover people who either don't need the coverage or don't
even know that they have it.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Does that sound like a good system to you? It's
waste with fraud.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It's also not insurance, which we all know from. Do
I pay more for wind insurance here in Miami where
we have hurricanes than people will who you know live
in I don't know. Is Tennessee wind insurance a big thing?
Clay probably not. Well, we have tornadoes? Oh sorry, a tornadoes? Okay, Well,
(07:55):
others probably. I would say Vermont, there's not a time
on a win insurance. I don't think they have very
many tornadoes, hurricanes typically not hitting Vermont. I would bet
maybe you guys are gonna blow me up and tell
me I'm wrong. I would bet that there's not a
lot of concern about wind damage in Vermont. You know,
I have a whole plan that we need to just
make Vermont red right.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It's not hard. We colonize it very easily.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Tennessee could lend us enough Republicans easily to colonize Vermont.
I love Vermont as a state. It's beautiful. I used
to go to camp there in the summers. I highly
highly recommend it to any of you if you can
get there. But it's Bernie Sandersville. I mean, the politics
there are it's pure COMMI it's beautiful place. Anyway, I'll
talk about my Vermont planet. I got Greenland, I got
(08:39):
takeover Vermont for the Republicans. I got a lot of
things going on here. But back to the healthcare thing, Clay,
we don't it's not actually insurance because the whole system
is set up so that people who are young and
healthy are paying for people who are old and sick.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's a transfer of wealth.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
It's a program of incredibly complicated subsidies where the corporations. Also,
because of the way these Obamacare is written in the
way a lot of these bills are written up the corporations,
the companies, the healthcare providers are incentivized to deny a
lot of claims for people. They're incentivized to make sure
(09:18):
that they're making a profit as an administrator of healthcare,
but they don't actually provide healthcare. This is people don't
understand we have this whole system with so much fraud
and wasting it. Medicaid fraud annually, Clay, I think they
estimated is like eighty billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, did you see we.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Talked about this with Scott Besson. He came on and
echoed Elon Musk.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Well, he said ten percent of the entire US budget
is fraud.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yes, six hundred to eight hundred billion dollars, depending on
how you define it as fraud. And he said, we
could probably increase GDP by a substantial margin if we
just reallocated those resources outside of the fraud. And so, yeah,
a huge part of the fraud comes from healthcare, and
obviously we're seeing a huge part of the fraud comes
(10:07):
from any number of federal programs which subsidized state fraud.
Like what really started this whole Minneapolis mess was the
degree of fraud going on in their daycare system, which
led to President Trump's decision to surge resources there for
ice to go after all of the fraud that's taking
(10:28):
place in that community. We should mention this too. We're
talking to Ryan Gardesky next hour. He has pointed out
something that's very significant about this, and we should have
talked about it. Smart credit to him for thinking of it.
The amount of deportations that are occurring is potentially going
to alter to a substantial degree the twenty thirty census
(10:50):
because remember, for purposes of House of Representatives representation, illegal
immigrants are counted in the census, roughly seven hundred and
twenty thousand citizens in each district. In the United States,
four hundred and thirty five districts they counted legal immigrants.
This gives Democrats a plus ten or so benefit at
(11:15):
least in the House. And we're talking about the entire
House of Representatives being decided by a couple of seats,
So starting in twenty thirty, that advantage is going to vanish.
This is one of the big impacts why Democrats are
fighting so hard. Their rigged system is collapsing around them
(11:36):
and they're seeing it happen. Trump also saying here that
they've increased funding for rural health care. You know rural
tends to mean red in this country. This has cut one.
Listen to what the man has to say.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
As part of the great, big, beautiful bill, where increased
and we have increased funding for the healthcare by an
unprecedented fifty billion dollars. That's rural healthcare that was going
to happen, and we got it done. So we have
rural health care. For those that were trying to make
a case that we weren't taking care of the rural community,
(12:09):
I'm all about the rural community. We won the rural
communities by numbers that nobody's ever won them before, and
we're taking care of those great people.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
So we already did this.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
We increased funding for rural health care by an unprecedented
record setting fifty billion dollars over five years, which will
benefit Americans in all fifty cents.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
It's a big deal. Clay Trump fody able to do
what needs to be done. Here, go ahead, he yeah.
I'll hit you with the data when we come back,
because I pulled this up the headline in the Wall
Street Journal editorial page.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I'll hit you with some of these numbers.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
But the editorial is headlined the Obamacare Apocalypse that wasn't
They told you that if these subsidies were dialed back,
that there would be a huge cataclysmic impact on American
health care. It didn't happen. The Wall Street journals got
the numbers. I'll share those with you in a sec
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Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get
your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Okay,
Wall Street Journal, I just mentioned this, and again I
understand a lot of you don't necessarily get into the
weeds of healthcare policy. But basically, the shutdown happened because
Democrats said, this is going to be an unmitigated disaster
(14:47):
if we don't continue subsidies for Obamacare. So open enrollment
ended Thursday, that is yesterday. According to the Wall Street Journal,
we have about one point four million fewer people who
signed up compared to the twenty twenty five number. Okay,
the Urban Institute said that it would drop by seven
(15:11):
point three million. The Congressional Business Budget Office presumed huge
drops in the number of people that would drop out,
and so the decline, according to the Trump administration, happened
because they cracked down on fraud and the paragon. This guy,
(15:34):
Brian Blasee, says that about twelve million Obamacare enrollees have
no medical claims, suggesting they may have been enrolled in
plans without their knowledge. Fraud may also explain why enrollment
hasn't fallen more.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Think about that, Buck, If you have twenty four million.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
People signed up for Obamacare, doesn't it seem crazy that
half of those people people would have no healthcare claims whatsoever?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yes? In a year? Does I mean?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Think about your life, whatever you do for healthcare. I
bet almost everybody out there listening to us at least
spent a.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Dollar with healthcare.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
All Republicans are saying is in order to be automatically enrolled,
we think you should have to spend five dollars on
healthcare every year. I think what's happened here with Obamacare, Buck,
is it is a huge fraud laced program, and healthcare
companies are getting free rides because they're signing up people
(16:39):
left and right. They're cashing all these subsidy checks without
actually covering people. Because it doesn't make sense that twelve
million people would not have a single health care claim
on Obamacare if it were so integral to overall healthcare
in America. Right, Sometimes the math just doesn't add up. Again,
these are data from the Wall Street Journal. The more
(17:02):
they dig into this, the more you're going to see
what a mess the whole thing is. And this has
been said all along. I'll just point out those of
us who were ringing the alarm bell about Obamacare a
decade and a half ago, basically wherever thirteen years ago,
it's all true. Everything we've said is true. Your healthcare
has just gotten more expensive, access has gotten worse. There's
(17:25):
more government spending involved, so you're paying for more with
your taxes, you're paying for more with your premiums. You're
getting worse care, you're having longer waits, all of it
gets worse. So that illegals can be covered. I mean,
let's really get into this, so that healthcare companies can
not the place, not the people that are actually like
fixing you, the places that determine who gets to fix
(17:47):
you so that their profits are nice and fat, so
that hospital systems can become these massive private equity owned
you know, profit centers.
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Speaker 2 (18:57):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Things continuing to heat up over immigrations and customs enforcement
in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Democrats making this there now is it their waterloo or
our waterloo? Right?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
All depends which side of waterloo are you on, the
Napoleon side or the other side, the Wellington side of things.
But they're making this their big stand against the Trump administration.
And we've seen some really outrageous things, you know. To Clay,
there was the breaking into an FBI car and they
stole I believe a long gun like an AR fifteen
(19:34):
type rifle out of the car. That you do, they've
arrested that guy. You do not want to steal a
FBI agent's gun. They will they will not take kindly
to that. That is a serious crime and you will
get into a and as you should, get into a
lot of trouble for it. Scott Jennings up on a
CNN making the case here that the government officials in
(19:56):
Minnesota are inciting I mean they're actually ma this whole
situation worse. This has cut seventeen Listen to our man
Scott laying it down.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
The accusation has been by conservatives, including by you Scott,
that he's been inciting violence.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
But we just played it there.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Okay, you cherry picked a handful of comments.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Did you play the comment.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Where he said we're under a federal occupation.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
That language that inciting good? Of course it is.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
What does that language sound like to you? You have
wolves and Fry and Flannagan and the rest of these
Democrats in Minnesota radicalizing and propagandizing their constituency telling them things.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
That aren't true.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
And what has happened. One lady went out and got
into a very very sad and unfortunate situation.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Three Venezuelan.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
The illegals came out and tried to beat an ICE
agent to death with a shovel. Hordes of people in
the street vandalized and raided ICE vehicles and stole weapons,
kevlar and documents and docks. People on the internet last night,
do you believe they are listening to Tim Walls when
he talks about peace or do you think they're listening
to Tim.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Federal Gune.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Good points there from Scott. They are clearly using language
that is meant to inflame this situation, to make it worse.
Stephen Miller, he's straight up calling them. Steven Miller's great,
He's great. Have you seen the clips that are circulating
just as an aside of Steven Miller when he was
at Duke and the Duke Lacrosse case, and he don't
want to take a shot at Stephen here, but he
(21:27):
had hair and Steven Miller with hair is a very
different image than Steven Miller without hair. But yes, he
was one hundred percent right. For those of you who
remember the fake accusations, one hundred percent false against the
Duke Lacrosse kids when they were accused of raping strippers,
black strippers, white across. Oh my god, they were. They
(21:50):
were immediately tarred and feathered. That was even buck in
a pre social media era. Yeah, because I don't even
know how that case would have played out in a
social media era, but it was. I think fantastic lies
were what one of the players said about those accusations,
and Stevin Miller was on calling out it for bs.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
He was right on that.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Even back in the day I remember that one, even
talking among friends and family being like that, the whole
thing's a lie. It was very obvious, but the New
York Times front page kept hitting it as though it
was a story of race and class playing out once
again as it always does. No, the whole thing's a lie.
That's not how it plays out. Actually the whole thing
was false anyways, Steven Miller, that clip has been circulating
(22:30):
here he is talking about the insurrectionist This is cut
nineteen in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Hit it in Minnesota. Right now. The insurrectionists have come
out of hiding. They're confronting our officers on the street.
They're being arrested. This is a national security priority. More
arrests the disrectionists are being made every day, and each
of those are rests. That provides an opportunity to learn
(22:57):
more about the net work from in law enforcement and
national security standpoint.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yep insurrectionist clay. When you're attacking law enforcement in a
group in ambush situations to prevent them from doing what
you oppose, both locally and at a national level, it
does feel pretty insurrection y. And Trump has even said
if this doesn't stop, he will invoke the Insurrection Act.
(23:25):
Well not only that buck, and I think President Trump
is right about this. Think about how crazy these left
wing activists are to be showing up in ten degree
weather engaging in acts of violence against people who did
you see the Department of Whole Land Security just posted
(23:46):
a video or sorry, a photo.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I'm sure probably a video too.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
But I saw the photo of one of the guys
that they arrested for engaging in violence of Venezuela illegal
that should have never been here. Now, look, should never
judge a book by its cover, I will say, however,
all right, I mean, I don't know how many people
out there in our audience.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Are covers, say a lot some covers tell you this
cover if you have if you have face.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Tattoos, what do you think the rate of violent crime
is for face tattoo guy compared to non face type
tattoo ten x the general I was going to say
one hundred to one, one hundred times as likely. I
think I think if you have a face tattoo, I
think you are one hundred times as likely. It's all men,
(24:38):
by the way, I don't think that many chicks have
face tattoos. If you are a man with a face tattoo,
I think you are one hundred times as likely to
have committed a violent crime or have a violent criminal
history as someone that does not have a face tattoo.
And I think that might even be low Buck was
going to go ten and when I say, you look
(24:58):
at this guy, and he got a arrested and Tommy
larn posted a response on this. But who the faces
are of the arguments you make matter? And the fact
that Democrats are consistently picking guys with violent crimes, who
are illegally in this country to be their face of
(25:21):
opposition is not helping them.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I think in general, now here is the challenge.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Because I was reading from Axios this morning on it Buck,
Democrats are having some success in convincing people who are
not like most of our listeners and are not like
you and me, that this ice, these ice raids are
unacceptable and politically unpopular, and so I think that the
(25:51):
question Axios This was the Axios lead in their Morning
Digest that I was reading this morning as I was
getting ready for the show. I think the question is
is how do you combat this idea that the left
has put in place that these are innocent people primarily
that are being taken out of the country when I
think the reality is most of the people that are
(26:14):
being taken out of the country are violent perpetrators that
we know they are criminals because they are legally here,
so they certainly are criminals. But I do think that's
the question. I don't think Democrats have gotten the right
face of the anti ICE protest yet. I think they
wanted Renee Good to be that face. They've used her more.
It's better, I think, probably for them than killmar A
(26:37):
Breo Garcia or certainly these dudes who were arrested that
got into that one of them was shot in Minneapolis.
But did you see Jacob for I come out and say, basically,
we only have six hundred cops and we've got three
thousand ICE agents in the country. Maybe we'll play that
cut for you later in the show or in the
city rather. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the city. One reason
(26:59):
they only have six hundred cops is because they can't
fill the existing police officer openings, because they've been so
disrespectful and lacking in backing up their police officers that
if you could choose, like hey, do I want to
be in Minneapolis or do I want to be in Miami,
you know, hey, I think I'd rather be a cop
(27:19):
in Miami. They'll actually have my back. There are lots
of places out there where cops are supported. Minneapolis is
not one of those places.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You know how many murders there were in.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
The city of Miami clay and I think it was
last well, twenty twenty four is the last one that
we have. The full crime data for Miami has about
six hundred thousand people in it. There are thirty homicides
in Miami.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Not all. That's pretty incredible. It's just not a lot
of by the way going on here.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
What you would say, what I would build on top
of that is city of Miami might have six hundred
thousand people. Actually, the Miami proper is probably what like
five or six million would be my guess. Metro Miami
is probably five or six million, would be my guess.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, I bet.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Really, you could just do it with Miami Dade County,
which with Miami Dade has three million people, so it's
about three million. So I bet the surrounding community of Miami,
if you take in the metropolitan area, I bet there
was only buck sixty five murders in all of Miami
when you add up all, that's my guests in all
of Miami Metropolitan proper. In other words, it's not just
(28:29):
the city Miami Proper that's safe. It is my goodness
that area in general is super super safe. And that
is the case. For instance, where I live in Nashville.
Nashville had seventy murders. Metro Nashville had like seventy three. Right,
So if you actually count outside of the downtown district
(28:49):
and combine everybody who lives there, there's basically no murders
like taking place. I think we had a sixty year
low in Nashville. Here here we have a wonderful thing
where and it's even more so. And I have friends
on the Miami Beach Police Department specifically, which is a
different city technical than By the way, there were no
actually say no, I mean if there were if there
(29:11):
were any murders.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
In Miami Beach last year, it was like three.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
It was very very few, because they usually fold that
in with Miami overall. To your point, but here here's
why this matters policy wise, why it matters from Minneapolis,
and why it's part of our discussion.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Play.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
You have support for the cops in the city of
Miami and in the state of Florida from Governor Ron
De Santis and Attorney General Uth Meyer on down. So
they know if you're doing if you're a cop here,
first of all, they like you, We like you, Thank
you for doing what you're doing. This is true across
the state of Florida. And if you're.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Doing the right things, they've got your back. Yes, and
there's not there's not gonna be in this nonsense. You're
seeing these.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Other places where we throw cops to the angry mob.
That's some sort of a race communism, offering to the
god something. We don't do that here, no doubt. And
by the way, the impact is tangible in the data.
As many things are positive, it's not getting that much
attention to the grand scheme of things. Not only is
(30:12):
the murder rate collapsing nationwide, the biggest drop that we've
ever seen according to FBI data. How about buck We'll
talk about this maybe a little bit later, and certainly
it's a big story worth paying attention to. Fentanyl deaths,
that is, overdose deaths are collapsing in the United States.
One of the biggest drops we have ever seen just
(30:35):
took place in twenty twenty five do you think that
maybe possibly shutting down the southern border and making it
harder for people to cross into this country, do you
think that, maybe possibly that might have had a big
impact on the safety of so many people in this
country when it comes to drug overdose deaths, poisonings, very
(30:58):
often the case. By the way, we'll hit you with
this and maybe some analysis. This just popped President Trump.
We've been talking about the tension in Iran, President Trump
tweeting or truthing. I suppose I greatly respect the fact
that all scheduled hangings which were to take place yesterday,
(31:18):
over eight hundred of them, have been canceled by the
leadership of Iran.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
A little bit of an interesting Uh again, you never
know what exactly Trump has got planned, because there is
a carrier, I think Storming, Steaming, maybe Storming. Abraham lincoln
favorite aircraft carrier as my favorite. Good Old named one
of his sons after the carrier or the president. Yeah,
(31:48):
that's right, my middle son. But so we'll see whether
this is a little bit of a dial back that
is intentional and maybe not respected in terms of its
long range impact.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
But that was just posted.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
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Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging
out with us as we were going to break breaking
news and Trump's Trump has said thank you to Iran
for not executing eight hundred people. By the way, eight
hundred executions, Buck, Iran has a population of ninety million.
(33:45):
This would be like the United States and one day
And some of you are like, hey, well maybe they
maybe this is one thing that Aaron got right, But
this would be like the United States and one day
executing four thousand people something like that as a percentage
of population. And most of these people that they were
going to execute were protesters presumably here though, are they
(34:07):
going to let them out, well this is some hell
whole prison and beat them and torture them and maybe
eventually execute them one by one.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I mean, this is the problem. Here is what Trump said. Again,
I gave it.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
This is the latest information on what is going on
with Iran. I greatly respect the fact all scheduled hangings,
hangings which were to take place yesterday, over eight hundred
of them, according to President Trump, had been canceled by
the leadership. Thank you is in your mind? Buck, as
a former CIA skilled analyst, is this Trump sending up
(34:39):
a false flag of positivity while steaming the Abraham Lincoln
into the Middle East with potential other actions coming, or
does it represent in your mind a legitimate thaw in
relations in any way? No, I think this is Trump
didn't believe that there was an option for US strikes
that would bring an end to the regime, and so
(35:02):
he looked at the options and said, we'll take something
else here. I don't think that he's preparing to hit Iran.
I think that this was a situation unlike Venezuela, where
our leverage, our control, the opposition in place, all of
those things were not strong enough for Trump to feel
justified in taking kinetic action. So that means the regime's
(35:25):
going to stay, by the way, which is what I
told you guys all along. I said, if Trump doesn't
do something, the regime's not going for sure, He's not.
I don't think he's going to do anything, which means
this regime is staying, which probably means that he's been
told that his strikes would not have toppled the regime
exactly what he decided not to make the decision to
do it. Yeah, so why send the Abraham Lincoln into
(35:46):
the Middle East as leverage because Iran doesn't know right,
I mean, Clay, it's it's all about the unpredictability of Trump.
That's where he is right now. He can changes mine
next week. Yes, so you know he might decide something
on that menu of options he was provided is necessary
(36:07):
in fact, or maybe something changes with leverage inside of Iran.
But whereas I have high confidence that it'll be a
little messy. But Venezuela is going to start to be
put in a much better trajectory Iran. I don't think
that we necessarily could have even gotten the outcome we
want of the Mulla's falling. So just with strikes, I
(36:27):
don't think it'd be enough. We will update you on more.
There continued fallout. The opposition leader was in the White
House yesterday and gave Trump her Nobel Peace Prize. I
believe we'll talk about that and more. Second Hour plus
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