May 5, 2026 • 36 mins
In Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts deliver a fast-paced and comprehensive breakdown of the biggest news stories driving the day, with a strong emphasis on U.S.–Iran tensions, global oil markets, domestic politics, and 2026 election dynamics. This opening hour centers heavily on how geopolitical conflict is directly impacting gas prices, inflation concerns, and economic outlook in the United States, making it clear that energy costs remain a top-pocketbook issue for American voters.
The show begins with a wide-ranging news overview, including President Donald Trump speaking live from the Oval Office, Pentagon updates from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, and primary election voting underway in key states like Indiana and Ohio. The hosts also highlight Vice President JD Vance’s political activity and new redistricting efforts in Tennessee, which could reshape congressional representation and signal broader shifts in Republican election strategy following recent legal rulings on race-based maps.
Clay and Buck then turn to Democratic Party politics and the emerging 2028 presidential race, arguing that Vice President Kamala Harris is the clear frontrunner for the Democratic nomination. They suggest that institutional support within the Democratic Party outweighs individual candidate strengths, framing the party as a “political machine” capable of elevating its preferred nominee regardless of performance. The hosts contrast Harris’s rising position with what they describe as fading momentum from figures like Gavin Newsom, while also criticizing long-term impacts of the Biden administration, particularly in the judiciary.
The dominant theme of Hour 1 is the escalating crisis in the Strait of Hormuz, a critical global shipping route for oil and natural gas. Clay and Buck analyze how Iran-related instability is disrupting maritime traffic, reducing the number of ships passing through the region by a significant margin and contributing to elevated oil prices hovering near $100 per barrel. They emphasize that the price of oil and gas is now the most important domestic political issue, directly affecting everything from transportation costs to consumer sentiment and electoral outcomes.
A key segment features Clay proposing a bold economic solution: the U.S. government providing insurance guarantees for commercial ships traveling through the Strait of Hormuz. He argues that this would immediately restore confidence in the shipping industry, stabilize global supply chains, and potentially reduce oil prices by as much as $20 per barrel. Buck pushes back, raising concerns about crew safety, real-world risk tolerance, and whether financial guarantees can overcome fear of physical harm in a conflict zone. This debate highlights the complexity of balancing economic policy, national security, and human behavior in crisis situations.
Listener calls add depth to the discussion, with one caller explaining that traditional maritime insurers are refusing to cover ships in the region, which reinforces the seriousness of the threat and lends credibility to the idea that government intervention might be necessary to restore normal trade flow. The hosts also point out a critical long-term issue: even if ships can safely exit the Strait, many companies may refuse to send vessels back in, prolonging disruption to global energy markets.
The hour also includes extended analysis of President Trump’s strategy toward Iran, including his willingness to accept temporarily higher gas prices in exchange for preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear capabilities. Clay and Buck argue that U.S. energy independence and increased domestic production have enabled a more aggressive foreign policy posture, allowing the United States to withstand short-term economic pressure while isolating Iran economically.
In lighter but engaging segments, the hosts discuss the return of the Presidential Fitness Test, sparking nostalgic commentary about physical fitness standards and generational differences. They also dive into humorous and off-topic discussions about dangerous jobs, maritime risks, shark attacks, and survival scenarios, tying these anecdotes back into the broader theme of risk tolerance and decision-making under uncertainty.
The hour wraps with continued audience interaction and personal commentary, including Clay reconsidering his plan to complete an Alcatraz open-water swim, illustrating how real-world danger—even hypothetically—can shift perspective.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome man.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It is the Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton Show. Lots of different news stories to be following,
As is always the case, President Trump speaking right now
in the Oval Office. Already, Pete Hegseth and General Caine
have had a press conference at the Pentagon. We will
fill you in with the absolute latest there. Indiana and
(00:26):
Ohio are voting in primary season, So if you are
in Indiana and or Ohio, then you need to get
out and get your votes in. President Vice President Jade
Vance traveled to Ohio to get his primary votes cast
this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Also footage of that. And by the way, the state
of Tennessee where I am, has begun a new special
session to see whether or not they can add another
Republican conceit to the Tennessee delegation in the wake of
the Louisiana Calai case, which did away effectively with redistricting
(01:10):
based on race. So that is underway. Real did you
see the Alitos slap down slapdown of the Katangi Brown
Jackson Maybe we can delay this map thirty Alito's like
it's unconstitutional. Why would we delay it? Because we want
to have the unconstitutional map for the election. Anyway, I
(01:31):
think I was thinking we'd.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Have some fun with that at some point during the
course of the program, because it feels to me increasingly
with every one of these filings that basically everybody's just
fed up with Katanji Brown Jackson and it is Biden's
final curse, the worst four year administration than any of
us have ever seen, in my opinion, in our lives,
(01:53):
and the lasting legacy of it, aside from all the
inflation and all of the racial antagonism, is ultimately that
we now have Kataji Brown Jackson for the next thirty years.
She's Biden's final curse.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Counterpoint, mister Clay Travis. Democrats love her. They love this.
They like having somebody who has the legal knowledge and
skill of your average ms now Trump deranged viewer. So
they think this is great. They think it's probably Biden's
best thing. Side note, and I probably should even bring
(02:31):
this up. Do you see what Kamala's numbers are looking
like these days? Oh, she's going to be the nominee.
This is so, this is so disappointing. This is so
because because one she's gonna be the nominee. Two You're
gonna end up being right on something which drives me
completely insane. And I just I can see this train
slowly coming toward me right now.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Clay's victory dances she is going to be the nominee
because she has already begun in the campaign. The numbers
that continue to come out reflect that she is subt
Dantelle in the lead. Davin Newsom has already begun to fade.
Everybody was talking about how brilliant he was. Oh, he's
doing all these different podcasts. His wife is crazy. California
is a mess.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I'm going to try to regain some analytic dignity here
by pointing out that I violated one of my own
precepts of the foundation of the Democrat Party these days,
that we learned during the Biden administration, Clay, which is
that it's not a candidate, it's a machine. The candidate
doesn't really matter. In fact, the candidate is a figurehead
(03:33):
for the broader Democrat you know, mechanisms to go into place.
If I had thought about that, I would not have
made a foolish bet with you about Kamala, because of
course Kamala can be the nominee. It doesn't matter, she's
a Democrat, she's black, she's a woman, They'll make it happen.
That is, I think that is likely to be the case. Unfortunately,
(03:55):
as much as I wish it, we're not going to
be the case. But I would say the I think
you'd probably sign off on this. Now.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
The number one story going forward right now is what
is the price of oil and gas? Is that fair
to be a rough proxy on. We've got record highs
in the stock market, and I don't want to play
into Democrat talking points and their obsession with the price
of oil and gas, but I do think it's probably
(04:24):
worthy of analyzing. Right now, as we speak, crude oil
futures right around one hundred dollars. They are coming down
about five percent today as this news has continued to
come out. Pete Hegseth says, the cease fire is not over.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
We expected some churn. Listen to cut one. No, there
is not over.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Ultimately, this is a separated, distinct project and we expected
there would be some some churn at the beginning, which
which happened, and we said we would defend it and
defend aggressively, and we absolutely have Ron knows that and
ultimately the President's going to make a decision whether anything
were to escalate into a violation of a ceasefire.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Here's an idea, bucket. I know the White House monitors
this and they probably have discussed it somewhat. I think
there is an argument, and I will make it, and
I believe it is actually a good argument. I think
if President Trump went out and said, the United States
is going to ensure the fair transit of the ships
(05:36):
in the Strait of Horror Moves by actually giving insurance
to all of the ship owners that are on this
in the Strait of Horror Moves, let me explain what
I mean by that. That means, if your ship gets
hit and it goes under the United States will help
to pay the one hundred million dollar value of your
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ship and cargo. And you're gonna say, well, I don't
like the United States taking on this obligation. I would
suggest to you that the price of oil and gas
would drop almost twenty dollars overnight if the United States
said that, and if the free flow of goods began
again in the Strait of hor Moves, which means the
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cost of US making that insurance guarantee would actually be
overwhelmingly paid for in the collapse of oil and gas prices.
I think it would be a smart strategic move. It
also then allies the United States on the side of commerce,
and I think Buck automatically sort of labels Iran then
(06:44):
as the terrorist actor, because if they are going to
attack any of these ships, we have established we want
free and fair passage of them. I would not include
Iran in that guarantee right now until the peace agreement happens,
but every non rain in flagship we can make the
determination on it. We would provide insurance to and free
(07:06):
support for them to transit the straight offour moves crazy idea,
good idea or how do you assess it? You need
someone to pilot the ship, Clay, I don't think they
care that much that there's insurance. If they're were they're
going to get blown up or shot or captain. Oh
so you think I think the pilots will go Oh,
I think you don't think play There was just a
(07:27):
South Korean vessel attacked what in the last forty eight hours.
I let me put it to you this way. If
if you're the.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Captain of an oil tanker right now that's about to
go in there or you're like, well, Lloyd's of London
has my back.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So no, Well, I think I think if your boss said, hey,
I want you to go, I think probably they go.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
So I think the owners of this ship, your model employee, Yeah,
well I would not.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
The owners of the ships, I think are concerned primarily
about the safety of the physical cargo, and I think
the crew is concerned about You think the crew. You
think the crew would mutiny basically and say we're not going. Yeah, dude,
for sure, yes, Okay, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I don't know. I think the seals who are piloting
these they're not like I think a lot of these guys.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I think a lot of these guys are probably going
borderline and sayings like cooling their heels in the uh there.
Maybe you have to give them hazard pay in order
to take the risk. Buck guys get on the Deadliest Catch.
I used to watch that show. You couldn't pay me
enough money to strap in and frigid seas and try
(08:40):
to drag lobster out of the ocean. If you pay
people enough money, they will basically take a risk to
do anything.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Tennessee man crab, not lobster. Lobsters. The Northeastern. Look at this,
Look at this guy. Everybody you see this talking a.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Lobster. I don't want to be on any ship that
I could fall off. There's no amount of money you
could pay me to go out in cold water and
try to drag in, uh, try to drag in the crustaceans.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
All right? So what point one, Tennessee man, stick to Cobbler.
Point two. I think you are forgetting how much the
risk factor is for people that are Now you might say, well,
it's only one ship that's attacking, but who wants to
who wants to be There's a reason we had to
have this whole anti piracy program off of Somalia as
long as we did, because they were and everyone's seeing,
(09:30):
what's what's the you know, the what's the movie? Not
not captains? Oh the I'm the pirate now? Yeah, yeah,
I'm the captain. Now we all know that line. I
can't remember the name anyway, there's a reason we have that.
It's like Captain Smith or something whatever it is, that right,
Captain Phillips, I said Smith, Captain Phillips, same idea. Look,
here's what Trump says about the ceasefire. We should we
(09:52):
just he just said this a few minutes ago, so
you're getting the most update of Clay's like, Eh, get
some insurance man up. I think people want.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
To go yea, I'd be a we ensured the boats.
The evil uh profit focused owners of the boat would
just say, God, I.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Hope you're out. I hope you know, I hope everybody
who works for Clay and sports media is hearing this.
He's like, sometimes we've got to lose a few good
guys to make a buck. No, big, I.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Gotta say it's true. It's true. As the awful boss.
I mean, you know, if if if the Super Bowl,
we lose a couple of people in the super Bowl,
it happens got to be there to come in the
super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
He's like, you know, a stampede here, a stampede there.
All right, this is cut thirty Trump moments ago. Play it.
But do they need to do to file a ceasfire.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Well you'll find out, because I'll let you know. They
know what to do, and they know what to do,
and they know what not to do. More importantly, actually,
and you know they find them in little boats with
P shooters, you know, to P shooters a little boat,
we little you know why, because they don't have any
boats anymore. The navy is comprised of they call them
little boats boats and they're fast. Yeah, they're so fast
(10:55):
that that had eight of them and they're all God
and the fast. But then that fast like a missile.
A missile is slightly faster. They're all gone. So they're
looking around for little boats to try and compete with
our great navy. We have a navy that's unbelievable. You know.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
We set up a blockade, as you know very well.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Not one ship couple tried and they got their engine
shut out.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
So you got ten to twenty boats going through the
straight offom moves. I think as of May fifth, it
says here, So usually it's like one hundred to one
hundred and fifty. So it's way down. So some ships
are going to so some of them are willing to
the run the risk. But this is a ninety ninety
(11:43):
percent give or take drop from normal levels, so it
ain't open yet, not really ninety percent drop is not open, right.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
No, no, no, I mean, and again I'm trying to
think of you may be right that the crews are
going to mutin me and they won't go. I actually
think that most of the hang up is not as
much fear of bodily injury, although it's an interesting thing
to think about if the crew just says, up, sorry,
we're not going. I think it's the fear of the
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ships themselves being attacked and if we.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Are sure people on those ships. So if you're afraid
of the ship being attacked, that means that people could
get shot. But Clay's really, do you do you do
you put on a top hat in a monocle? Would?
I think?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I think if you pay those Look again, if you
pay the guys and you say, hey, I don't know
what the average ship ship mate on one of these
tankers makes. Let's say you just said, hey, we got
to get this thing out, we want commerce moving. We
didn't fit. I'll give you each more fifty K to
take the risk. I think most would go. Here's the
bigger concern I have about this, Notebuck. Everybody's talking about
(12:52):
the ship's leaving. My question is who's going to bring
their ship back? Because if I get my ship out
of the straight of for moves and it has been
stuck there for a couple of months, why in the
world am I gonna take my ship back in and
risk again that it could be stuck there. There's any
number of global shipping routes that they could go on.
(13:15):
So I think while the focus is and my solution
for the insurance gets those ships out and gets the
commerce moving out, I don't know who's going in. And
that's the biggest issue I think going forward.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Because you get however, many hundreds, couple of hundred ships
are backed up right there. You get all that out,
that's good, but it doesn't solve the issue because I'm
not taking my ship back in there. Well, I think
you're totally right about this. There's a huge difference between
I think it's quiet enough, we can get out of here.
That's that is a risk, versus maybe we should finish
(13:48):
our run, come back and see how that goes.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
That's where that's where crewman Clay would say, Hey, I'll
take the extra pay to get out. I'm not taking
the extra pay to go back because I might get
stuck in there for a couple of months.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And here's the other thing, You're having to pay all
of these guys probably hazard pay while they're just sitting
cooling their heels up from a run, waiting you know
you look at the ship tracking and uh, to get
to get a clay and buck show from a deadliest
(14:20):
catch ship in like the bearing straight, it would it
would have to be they would have to pay me.
It would be crazy money. You know what I'm saying.
It would it would have to be like I don't know,
it's because that would order in order.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Sorry, what particular job I wouldn't get on a boat
to run the straight for? I mean you have to
give me like a couple of hundred million dollars. I mean,
I'm not risking I'm not risking my life because I'm
not a ship guy. But if I were a ship guy,
Like the ship guys are crazy, right, I mean to
(14:56):
their credit.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I love this. He's just he's just like, Oh, no
big deal, guys. Just see if the missile hits you.
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Speaker 2 (16:10):
Looking for normal in a world of crazy, Clay and
Buck have your back.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We are
just hearing more war from President Trump in the Oval office.
We're going to bring this to you. Let's just talk
gas prices here for a moment. This is what President
Trump said a few minutes ago. Clay says, is this
the top domestic political issue right now? Right? Fair to
say that's your I think that's one hundred percent the
number one to be watching it is very closely. Gas
(16:38):
prices up about fifty percent. This has cut thirty two.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Play it well, what's happening is people are learning to
buy oil from the United States. I mean they're making
the trip and they have safer probably it's a better
product too, by the way, but they have they're learning
to buy.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
They're changing their happits.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
So when I did this, I thought the market would
go down twenty five percent, and I think I thought
that was a great limited.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
If it went down twenty five percent, I was satisfied.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
I said, because we cannot let these people have a
nuclear weapon.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
They'll use it. We can't. I also thought oil.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Would go up to two hundred, two hundred and fifty,
maybe three hundred, and I know it would be short term,
but I thought it would go I look today, it's
like at one hundred and two, and that's a very
small price to pay for getting rid of a nuclear
weapon from people that are really mentally deranged.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
We shall continue our analysis of this one, but Trump
saying gas prices are a bit high, but American producers
are benefiting, America supply is stable. All of this is
only possible to Clay. I don't think any president would
have tried this twenty years ago because of the difference
in the in the oil st market.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
This is what drill baby drill has done. It's created
energy and dependence, largely for the United States. We'll talk
more about this when we come back. So we're just
talking about oil, which is a commodity. You know what
else is something that's out there that's tangible, that's real,
and that has value.
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Speaker 2 (18:58):
Clay Travis Buck Sex It Show. Okay, you got a
bunch of calls. We'll get some of those. Also, the
President is bringing back the president Fitness Test and there
are Buck, they are this is pretty funny. They have
the kids doing the Presidential Fitness Test on the south
lawn of the White House. As we are speaking with
(19:20):
all of you, I would think, I'm sure you did
the Presidential Fitness test back in the day, right Buck,
I would think that you didn't do it no, oh,
we did it, Clay, I went to I went to
a nerd high school. There would have been a lot
of a lot of inhalers and people would have been rough. Yeah,
we definitely did the Presidential Fitness Test back in the day.
(19:41):
I would think that doing the Presidential Fitness Test at
the White House has to be good for a couple
of extra reps. And they've got kids doing as many
sit ups as they can. They've got the supervision going
on from White House staff keeping, they got people with
stopwatches out there. We got kids doing sprint sit ups,
as many as many pull ups as you can do.
(20:02):
I will say the pull up was often a very
much For those of you remember doing the Presidential Fitness Test,
the pull up challenge often did not go very well.
There were lots of kids just hanging there.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
But doing to pull up?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Now is what percentage of people who are our age?
I mean, I don't think most people can do a
pull up? Oh definitely people in their middle age, very
like a small percentage could actually do a real pull up.
Not saying a pull up yeah and not did this.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I'm sorry CrossFit people, This like weird fish flopping pull
yourself up thing is nonsense. That's not a pull up.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
So yeah, full extension, like you're hanging and you pull
your chin all the way up over the bar. I
think that would be very, very difficult to do. And so, uh, okay,
we got a couple of more cuts. I'm just gonna
I'm gonna keep hammering this home. I think my insurance
idea is genius.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Now, sure the staffs may mutiny, which is uh, we
may lose a few guys out there, but it's may
lose a few guys again. You ship people, You're tough.
I just come back to the deadliest catch. I would
I would ride on a straight of Hormuz boat over
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trying to go catch what it was it trying to
catch crabs out in uh the uh out in the
Pacific Ocean. There's no way. It's freezing. They actually put
you have to clip in so that the waves knock
you off you don't drown. I'm not I'm not going.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Anywhere we have to clip in. If you if you
ever have to clip in for anything on a boat,
I'm out. You were just telling me I'm gonna be there.
Probably freeze to death before you drown in that water.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Just so you know. I mean, you can keep yourself up,
but you only have a few minutes before you go
full hypothermic, and that's not gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I'm not if you tell me, hey, you just gotta
clamp yourself in here, just to be saying I'm not
getting on that boat. But uh, but we got a
bunch of things you won't. Uh yeah, okay. Producer Greg
is sending me text messages. I am not excited about
swimming from Alcatraz, but it would end and unless a
(22:16):
shark ate me, I would survive. I'm not excited about
being shark bait because Buck got me nervous. That woman
got eaten on the triathlon just off the coast of California,
not very long ago.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
They swim from what's the great off the coast of La.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Catalina Festival happens, Yeah, beautiful Catalina Island. She's training for
the triathlon and a shark just eight And my buddy
was telling me, Buck, you sound like this sounds like
something you would have watched. There's a new documentary up
I think it's on Netflix about how taking away the
(22:54):
ability to hunt seals on the East Coast has led
to a huge increast in Great whites, and now there's
tons of people getting attacked because it's so much more
fertile hunting. Have you heard about this. There's a documentary.
You don't buy it.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
It's not tons of people getting attacked. I mean there's
you know, there's a few attacks here with you are
seeing there's some fifteenth is like.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
The mayor on Ambity Island who's upset when the shark
like he wants to open the beaches. A woman was
swimming with her daughter and either the mom or the
daughter just got to eat and off the coast by
a Great white. In the last year or so, they
were just a nice swim in the Pacific. No, No,
on the Atlantic side.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Well that was in I think you're talking about a
case in Maine, which is the only fatal shark attack
ever in the history of Maine, just as like five
six that was years ago, though that wasn't recently.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I'm telling you, I think it's connected to there being
more seals on the East coast now because we're not
letting people kill seals. This is what my buddy told me.
I gotta watch the documentary. It's super popular right now.
One of the biggest trending. They decided I'll watch it too,
because sharks. Shark scare me.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And I'm not the one who's going to be swimming
from Alcatraz Island to Sure that's gonna be Clay. I'm
gonna be drinking hot cocoa in the launch boat. But uh,
they're the the The shark thing is scary. We're gonna
get back onto the news of the day, everybody, I
promise you, because this is what happens. We get into
animal Thunderdome and all of a sudden, did you see
the guy in the belly of the crocodile South Africa?
(24:21):
Now he may have drowned first, because crocodiles will eat
things that people are already dead, you know, eat animal saw.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
That they lifted the crocodile by helicopter.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Clay weighs almost one thousand pounds.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Well that doesn't seem like a good decision to me,
That's what I'm saying. Like, who was the poor bastard
who had to hook the crocodile Like I would just
killed the crocodile on the beach.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Well, they wanted to do a full Uh they did
an autopsy. Yeah, and they found the guy's body and
they found I believe, six shoes, not his, in the
crocodile's belly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this was. This was Now
people will say, were those all people who drown? I
(25:06):
wouldn't bet on they all drown. I don't think this
is a serial killer crocodile. He has six shoes. Yeah,
nile like salt water and nile. Crocodiles are enormous and
very dangerous, and they kill hundreds of people every year.
If you want to know what animals are dangerous, all right,
I'm sorry, all right, I know we're weaving. We're weaving
(25:27):
the animals that are really First of all, in places
like South Asian and Southeast Asia, a lot more people
die of venomous snake bites than you would think. Snakes
are still very very dangerous. Crocodiles take out a lot
of people. Mosquitoes, like I said, are still, unfortunately the
number one killer of human beings by far. Buffaloes and
hippopotami are also very dangerous. Water buffalo and hippopotami. And
(25:52):
this is what happens when you're a guy who dune
scrolls animal stuff on your phone. You start to learn
all these facts, all right, Clay. We got straight up
for me.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
We got a bunch of talkbacks. This is Trump so
both funny and serious. Did we play We haven't played
Trump on? Do we play Trump on gas prices?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Right?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
We played a cut on that? Producer Greg helped me
out because I just send you a bevy of these.
Are any of these overlaps with what we have already
paid played or are all of these new? Because I
was grabbing this all just happened. I know we didn't
play this here. Trump is asked what Iran would have
to do to violate the ceasefire?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Cut thirty Do they need to do to violate the seafire?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Well, you'll find out, because I'll let you know. They
know what to do, and they know what to do,
and they know what not to do. More importantly, actually,
and you know they fired them in little boats with
P shooters, you know, the P shooters. Little boat we
little You know why, because they don't have any boats anymore.
The navy is comprised of they call them little boats
or little boats nfs.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Yeah, there's so fast that.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
They had eight of them and they're all gone, and
they're fast, but they're not fast like a missile.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
A missile is slightly faster. They're all gone.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
So they're looking around for little boats to try and
compete with our great navy.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
We have a navy that's unbelievable. You know. We set
up a blockaded as you know very well.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Not one ship couple tried and they got their engine
shut out.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Okay, and then here is another one. Trump says he
was asked, why hasn't anyone rose risen up against the
existing Iranian regime?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
And here's what he said. Cut thirty one.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
People say, why aren't they protesting? They want to protest,
but they don't have any guns. So you could have
two hundred thousand people protesting and have five or six
sick people with guns, and when they start shooting them
right between the eyes, and you see a guy fall
and another one fall, and you have no guns, very
few people would be able to stand there and to it.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
I mean, I understand it. I tell them not to.
Don't forget.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
They killed forty two thousand people last month, forty two
thousand unarmed protests and they had no guns. So they
had a two hundred and fifty thousand people crowd and
they had snipers, said like four or five snipers in
buildings up high and you're standing there and all of
a sudden, the guy in your left goes down and
somebody that's what happened with a women protest. They had
(28:19):
two hundred thousand women protesting a year ago, and everybody
thought that was the end of Iran.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I've been saying this for a while that a lot
of people got eliminated. Who would have been the brave
souls out there now? I think Clay, they were killed
during the crackdown. You want a clip, go ahead?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah, no, And this is just a fun and we
got loaded lines, a lot of you weighing in on
the insurance idea. We'll see whether you are like me
and just say, you know, full speed ahead. Damn the torpedoes.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
You're you're you're reminding me of this? Is it great?
A great scene in Brave Heart when Long Shanks is like,
is like arrows cost money, Sending the Irish the dead
cost nothing. You know? That's you right now, buddy, You're
the King of England sending in the Irish to get
their asses kicked because arrows are expensive.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Gotta get them out here? Is this is also funny?
I mentioned that the kids have the presidential fitness. Trump
is doing this press conference while there's a bunch of
kids standing around the Oval office. Trump asks the kid
if he thinks he could beat up Trump in a fight.
This is cut thirty four, So I.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Don't think we have to worry about you. Yes, you're
gonna do good. Are you a strong person?
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Yes? Good? I think you can take me in a fight.
That would be embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
That was like a twelve year old kid that is
standing next to Trump. Trump with kids buck underrated. I
actually think when they do events with Trump, because he's
actually a pretty good grandpa. When he was explaining to
the kids the Biden auto pen, I think it's hard
not to have a positive reaction to Trump when he's
(30:04):
interacting with kids at these White House and Ncster egg
roll Christmas related I still think turned down the radio
when Trump was talking with the kids about Santa Claus
and he asked how old? How old the kid was
about Santa Claus. That's one of the all time great
Trump clips. I honestly, all right, we got loaded lines.
We'll get to some of your loaded lines. We come
(30:25):
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Speaker 1 (32:02):
Do it today, Flash Learn hang with the guys right
there when you need them most. Clay and Buck just
preset them on the iHeart app. Welcome back in here
to Clay and Buck VIP email from West right out
of the gate, Clay, you told us you were going
to swim Alcatraz this July. That's only a few months away.
(32:24):
Am I hearing your career? Hearing you correctly? Are you
squiggling out of it already? Question Mark? Yes, at least
he's honest.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Now, I'm gonna take a couple of things here. One
I have not trained. Two Laura is actually concerned that
I might get eaten by a shark, and it's really
kind of gotten in my head that I might get
eaten by a shark. And Buck sharing that story about
the woman doing the triathlon getting eaten by the shark.
If there is a way she was sitting, she wasn't
(32:59):
eaten important distinction, she got bitten by the shark off
the west coast of California during the Catalina.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
She didn't get eat. She died. No, it's a bite.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
It was a little nibble, a little like, hey, what's
going on? The sharp thing is in my head and
I can't shake it. Yeah, I don't know off an
eight foot great white shark takes like a little nibble.
But like she lived, she did. Like here here is
here is my potential compromise. There is very safe In
the US Virgin Islands. There is a one and a
(33:28):
quarter mile swim across the bay in Megan's Bay. I
used to live overlooking it. When I was down there
over the holiday, I was looking at that and I
was thinking, now, granted it's warmer, but it's still a
mile and a quarter.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
And I feel like I could prove that I could
swim that mile and a quarter without being attacked by Oh,
I'm sorry, in your bath temper in your bath temperature
water under a beautiful sun. Do they give you a
back rub while you're doing it? I was preposterous of the.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Most of the bet that believed I could not do
it was about the distance more than it was about
the temperature of the water. I mean I was gonna
be in a wetsuit, nice warm wetsuit. This is I
appreciate the call. I feel very confident that I could
do it, and I'm willing to do it in a
way that does not put me at risk of being
(34:20):
eaten by a shark if we I'm gonna let the
plate a way to do that.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I'm gonna let Tom and Tampa bail you out here.
He's on the lines, Live Tom, what's going.
Speaker 7 (34:28):
On, Hey, cla clam bug listen. I just wanted to
hitchhike on Clay's comments about the insurance thing. There is
definitely some legs there, but I think it's important understanding
little history. Lloyd's of London is the insurer of last Resort,
(34:48):
as you guys know, but it's important understands of history.
In the three hundred and thirty seven years of Lloyd's
of London on the high seas ensuring vessels, this is
the first time and history, even the Yamkapour War, which
you would probably know about, Bark because of CIA. Even
the Yamkapour War, Loyd's of London is still insured. So
(35:11):
for this to work, each loss of a tanker at
the bottom of the sea. Including the cost of a
tanker and assuming a three hundred and forty five thousand
barrel of oil to the largest taker you can do
is about thirty five million dollars. So the asterisk to
Clay's idea is that the US would literally have to
(35:34):
take over Lloyd's position as the insurer of last resort.
And I don't know, Clay, you're an attorney. I don't
know the legal machinations of that. But the idea has legs.
But we But the problem is Lloyd, as I understand it,
for the first time in history, is refusing to ensure
everybody going through there. That is the real issue, and
(35:55):
I think I don't think anybody's really talking about that.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
No, Look, Tom, I should have explained a little bit
more this. Yeah, you're exactly right. My idea on ensuring
is predicated on many of the current insurers are saying
they will not ensure these boats. Your math is a
good one there. I would say thirty five million dollars
for a tanker if it went to the bottom of
the sea, that's like not even what a Somali daycare
(36:21):
makes from our government. So the overall cost here My
point is, and we'll talk about this a bit more,
because I do think it's an intriguing idea. The overall
cost would immediately vanish in terms of the premium on
oil and gas. We would get back far more than
we would be ensuring, in my opinion, and it would
(36:45):
I think, immediately knock twenty dollars off a cost of
a barrel of oil and gas, which would overwhelmingly make
gas prices more affordable.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Here makes it a net positive for us to
Welcome man.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It is the Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton Show. Lots of different news stories to be following,
As is always the case, President Trump speaking right now
in the Oval Office. Already, Pete Hegseth and General Caine
have had a press conference at the Pentagon. We will
fill you in with the absolute latest there. Indiana and
(00:26):
Ohio are voting in primary season, So if you are
in Indiana and or Ohio, then you need to get
out and get your votes in. President Vice President Jade
Vance traveled to Ohio to get his primary votes cast
this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Also footage of that. And by the way, the state
of Tennessee where I am, has begun a new special
session to see whether or not they can add another
Republican conceit to the Tennessee delegation in the wake of
the Louisiana Calai case, which did away effectively with redistricting
(01:10):
based on race. So that is underway. Real did you
see the Alitos slap down slapdown of the Katangi Brown
Jackson Maybe we can delay this map thirty Alito's like
it's unconstitutional. Why would we delay it? Because we want
to have the unconstitutional map for the election. Anyway, I
(01:31):
think I was thinking we'd.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Have some fun with that at some point during the
course of the program, because it feels to me increasingly
with every one of these filings that basically everybody's just
fed up with Katanji Brown Jackson and it is Biden's
final curse, the worst four year administration than any of
us have ever seen, in my opinion, in our lives,
(01:53):
and the lasting legacy of it, aside from all the
inflation and all of the racial antagonism, is ultimately that
we now have Kataji Brown Jackson for the next thirty years.
She's Biden's final curse.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Counterpoint, mister Clay Travis. Democrats love her. They love this.
They like having somebody who has the legal knowledge and
skill of your average ms now Trump deranged viewer. So
they think this is great. They think it's probably Biden's
best thing. Side note, and I probably should even bring
(02:31):
this up. Do you see what Kamala's numbers are looking
like these days? Oh, she's going to be the nominee.
This is so, this is so disappointing. This is so
because because one she's gonna be the nominee. Two You're
gonna end up being right on something which drives me
completely insane. And I just I can see this train
slowly coming toward me right now.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Clay's victory dances she is going to be the nominee
because she has already begun in the campaign. The numbers
that continue to come out reflect that she is subt
Dantelle in the lead. Davin Newsom has already begun to fade.
Everybody was talking about how brilliant he was. Oh, he's
doing all these different podcasts. His wife is crazy. California
is a mess.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I'm going to try to regain some analytic dignity here
by pointing out that I violated one of my own
precepts of the foundation of the Democrat Party these days,
that we learned during the Biden administration, Clay, which is
that it's not a candidate, it's a machine. The candidate
doesn't really matter. In fact, the candidate is a figurehead
(03:33):
for the broader Democrat you know, mechanisms to go into place.
If I had thought about that, I would not have
made a foolish bet with you about Kamala, because of
course Kamala can be the nominee. It doesn't matter, she's
a Democrat, she's black, she's a woman, They'll make it happen.
That is, I think that is likely to be the case. Unfortunately,
(03:55):
as much as I wish it, we're not going to
be the case. But I would say the I think
you'd probably sign off on this. Now.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
The number one story going forward right now is what
is the price of oil and gas? Is that fair
to be a rough proxy on. We've got record highs
in the stock market, and I don't want to play
into Democrat talking points and their obsession with the price
of oil and gas, but I do think it's probably
(04:24):
worthy of analyzing. Right now, as we speak, crude oil
futures right around one hundred dollars. They are coming down
about five percent today as this news has continued to
come out. Pete Hegseth says, the cease fire is not over.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
We expected some churn. Listen to cut one. No, there
is not over.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Ultimately, this is a separated, distinct project and we expected
there would be some some churn at the beginning, which
which happened, and we said we would defend it and
defend aggressively, and we absolutely have Ron knows that and
ultimately the President's going to make a decision whether anything
were to escalate into a violation of a ceasefire.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Here's an idea, bucket. I know the White House monitors
this and they probably have discussed it somewhat. I think
there is an argument, and I will make it, and
I believe it is actually a good argument. I think
if President Trump went out and said, the United States
is going to ensure the fair transit of the ships
(05:36):
in the Strait of Horror Moves by actually giving insurance
to all of the ship owners that are on this
in the Strait of Horror Moves, let me explain what
I mean by that. That means, if your ship gets
hit and it goes under the United States will help
to pay the one hundred million dollar value of your
(05:57):
ship and cargo. And you're gonna say, well, I don't
like the United States taking on this obligation. I would
suggest to you that the price of oil and gas
would drop almost twenty dollars overnight if the United States
said that, and if the free flow of goods began
again in the Strait of hor Moves, which means the
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cost of US making that insurance guarantee would actually be
overwhelmingly paid for in the collapse of oil and gas prices.
I think it would be a smart strategic move. It
also then allies the United States on the side of commerce,
and I think Buck automatically sort of labels Iran then
(06:44):
as the terrorist actor, because if they are going to
attack any of these ships, we have established we want
free and fair passage of them. I would not include
Iran in that guarantee right now until the peace agreement happens,
but every non rain in flagship we can make the
determination on it. We would provide insurance to and free
(07:06):
support for them to transit the straight offour moves crazy idea,
good idea or how do you assess it? You need
someone to pilot the ship, Clay, I don't think they
care that much that there's insurance. If they're were they're
going to get blown up or shot or captain. Oh
so you think I think the pilots will go Oh,
I think you don't think play There was just a
(07:27):
South Korean vessel attacked what in the last forty eight hours.
I let me put it to you this way. If
if you're the.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Captain of an oil tanker right now that's about to
go in there or you're like, well, Lloyd's of London
has my back.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So no, Well, I think I think if your boss said, hey,
I want you to go, I think probably they go.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
So I think the owners of this ship, your model employee, Yeah,
well I would not.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
The owners of the ships, I think are concerned primarily
about the safety of the physical cargo, and I think
the crew is concerned about You think the crew. You
think the crew would mutiny basically and say we're not going. Yeah, dude,
for sure, yes, Okay, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I don't know. I think the seals who are piloting
these they're not like I think a lot of these guys.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I think a lot of these guys are probably going
borderline and sayings like cooling their heels in the uh there.
Maybe you have to give them hazard pay in order
to take the risk. Buck guys get on the Deadliest Catch.
I used to watch that show. You couldn't pay me
enough money to strap in and frigid seas and try
(08:40):
to drag lobster out of the ocean. If you pay
people enough money, they will basically take a risk to
do anything.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Tennessee man crab, not lobster. Lobsters. The Northeastern. Look at this,
Look at this guy. Everybody you see this talking a.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Lobster. I don't want to be on any ship that
I could fall off. There's no amount of money you
could pay me to go out in cold water and
try to drag in, uh, try to drag in the crustaceans.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
All right? So what point one, Tennessee man, stick to Cobbler.
Point two. I think you are forgetting how much the
risk factor is for people that are Now you might say, well,
it's only one ship that's attacking, but who wants to
who wants to be There's a reason we had to
have this whole anti piracy program off of Somalia as
long as we did, because they were and everyone's seeing,
(09:30):
what's what's the you know, the what's the movie? Not
not captains? Oh the I'm the pirate now? Yeah, yeah,
I'm the captain. Now we all know that line. I
can't remember the name anyway, there's a reason we have that.
It's like Captain Smith or something whatever it is, that right,
Captain Phillips, I said Smith, Captain Phillips, same idea. Look,
here's what Trump says about the ceasefire. We should we
(09:52):
just he just said this a few minutes ago, so
you're getting the most update of Clay's like, Eh, get
some insurance man up. I think people want.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
To go yea, I'd be a we ensured the boats.
The evil uh profit focused owners of the boat would
just say, God, I.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Hope you're out. I hope you know, I hope everybody
who works for Clay and sports media is hearing this.
He's like, sometimes we've got to lose a few good
guys to make a buck. No, big, I.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Gotta say it's true. It's true. As the awful boss.
I mean, you know, if if if the Super Bowl,
we lose a couple of people in the super Bowl,
it happens got to be there to come in the
super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
He's like, you know, a stampede here, a stampede there.
All right, this is cut thirty Trump moments ago. Play it.
But do they need to do to file a ceasfire.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Well you'll find out, because I'll let you know. They
know what to do, and they know what to do,
and they know what not to do. More importantly, actually,
and you know they find them in little boats with
P shooters, you know, to P shooters a little boat,
we little you know why, because they don't have any
boats anymore. The navy is comprised of they call them
little boats boats and they're fast. Yeah, they're so fast
(10:55):
that that had eight of them and they're all God
and the fast. But then that fast like a missile.
A missile is slightly faster. They're all gone. So they're
looking around for little boats to try and compete with
our great navy. We have a navy that's unbelievable. You know.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
We set up a blockade, as you know very well.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Not one ship couple tried and they got their engine
shut out.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
So you got ten to twenty boats going through the
straight offom moves. I think as of May fifth, it
says here, So usually it's like one hundred to one
hundred and fifty. So it's way down. So some ships
are going to so some of them are willing to
the run the risk. But this is a ninety ninety
(11:43):
percent give or take drop from normal levels, so it
ain't open yet, not really ninety percent drop is not open, right.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
No, no, no, I mean, and again I'm trying to
think of you may be right that the crews are
going to mutin me and they won't go. I actually
think that most of the hang up is not as
much fear of bodily injury, although it's an interesting thing
to think about if the crew just says, up, sorry,
we're not going. I think it's the fear of the
(12:13):
ships themselves being attacked and if we.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Are sure people on those ships. So if you're afraid
of the ship being attacked, that means that people could
get shot. But Clay's really, do you do you do
you put on a top hat in a monocle? Would?
I think?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I think if you pay those Look again, if you
pay the guys and you say, hey, I don't know
what the average ship ship mate on one of these
tankers makes. Let's say you just said, hey, we got
to get this thing out, we want commerce moving. We
didn't fit. I'll give you each more fifty K to
take the risk. I think most would go. Here's the
bigger concern I have about this, Notebuck. Everybody's talking about
(12:52):
the ship's leaving. My question is who's going to bring
their ship back? Because if I get my ship out
of the straight of for moves and it has been
stuck there for a couple of months, why in the
world am I gonna take my ship back in and
risk again that it could be stuck there. There's any
number of global shipping routes that they could go on.
(13:15):
So I think while the focus is and my solution
for the insurance gets those ships out and gets the
commerce moving out, I don't know who's going in. And
that's the biggest issue I think going forward.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Because you get however, many hundreds, couple of hundred ships
are backed up right there. You get all that out,
that's good, but it doesn't solve the issue because I'm
not taking my ship back in there. Well, I think
you're totally right about this. There's a huge difference between
I think it's quiet enough, we can get out of here.
That's that is a risk, versus maybe we should finish
(13:48):
our run, come back and see how that goes.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
That's where that's where crewman Clay would say, Hey, I'll
take the extra pay to get out. I'm not taking
the extra pay to go back because I might get
stuck in there for a couple of months.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And here's the other thing, You're having to pay all
of these guys probably hazard pay while they're just sitting
cooling their heels up from a run, waiting you know
you look at the ship tracking and uh, to get
to get a clay and buck show from a deadliest
(14:20):
catch ship in like the bearing straight, it would it
would have to be they would have to pay me.
It would be crazy money. You know what I'm saying.
It would it would have to be like I don't know,
it's because that would order in order.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Sorry, what particular job I wouldn't get on a boat
to run the straight for? I mean you have to
give me like a couple of hundred million dollars. I mean,
I'm not risking I'm not risking my life because I'm
not a ship guy. But if I were a ship guy,
Like the ship guys are crazy, right, I mean to
(14:56):
their credit.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I love this. He's just he's just like, Oh, no
big deal, guys. Just see if the missile hits you.
All Right, we'll come back to this year in a second.
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Speaker 2 (16:10):
Looking for normal in a world of crazy, Clay and
Buck have your back.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We are
just hearing more war from President Trump in the Oval office.
We're going to bring this to you. Let's just talk
gas prices here for a moment. This is what President
Trump said a few minutes ago. Clay says, is this
the top domestic political issue right now? Right? Fair to
say that's your I think that's one hundred percent the
number one to be watching it is very closely. Gas
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prices up about fifty percent. This has cut thirty two.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Play it well, what's happening is people are learning to
buy oil from the United States. I mean they're making
the trip and they have safer probably it's a better
product too, by the way, but they have they're learning
to buy.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
They're changing their happits.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
So when I did this, I thought the market would
go down twenty five percent, and I think I thought
that was a great limited.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
If it went down twenty five percent, I was satisfied.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
I said, because we cannot let these people have a
nuclear weapon.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
They'll use it. We can't. I also thought oil.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Would go up to two hundred, two hundred and fifty,
maybe three hundred, and I know it would be short term,
but I thought it would go I look today, it's
like at one hundred and two, and that's a very
small price to pay for getting rid of a nuclear
weapon from people that are really mentally deranged.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
We shall continue our analysis of this one, but Trump
saying gas prices are a bit high, but American producers
are benefiting, America supply is stable. All of this is
only possible to Clay. I don't think any president would
have tried this twenty years ago because of the difference
in the in the oil st market.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
This is what drill baby drill has done. It's created
energy and dependence, largely for the United States. We'll talk
more about this when we come back. So we're just
talking about oil, which is a commodity. You know what
else is something that's out there that's tangible, that's real,
and that has value.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
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the blockade can do. When you look at the price
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Speaker 2 (18:58):
Clay Travis Buck Sex It Show. Okay, you got a
bunch of calls. We'll get some of those. Also, the
President is bringing back the president Fitness Test and there
are Buck, they are this is pretty funny. They have
the kids doing the Presidential Fitness Test on the south
lawn of the White House. As we are speaking with
(19:20):
all of you, I would think, I'm sure you did
the Presidential Fitness test back in the day, right Buck,
I would think that you didn't do it no, oh,
we did it, Clay, I went to I went to
a nerd high school. There would have been a lot
of a lot of inhalers and people would have been rough. Yeah,
we definitely did the Presidential Fitness Test back in the day.
(19:41):
I would think that doing the Presidential Fitness Test at
the White House has to be good for a couple
of extra reps. And they've got kids doing as many
sit ups as they can. They've got the supervision going
on from White House staff keeping, they got people with
stopwatches out there. We got kids doing sprint sit ups,
as many as many pull ups as you can do.
(20:02):
I will say the pull up was often a very
much For those of you remember doing the Presidential Fitness Test,
the pull up challenge often did not go very well.
There were lots of kids just hanging there.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
But doing to pull up?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Now is what percentage of people who are our age?
I mean, I don't think most people can do a
pull up? Oh definitely people in their middle age, very
like a small percentage could actually do a real pull up.
Not saying a pull up yeah and not did this.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I'm sorry CrossFit people, This like weird fish flopping pull
yourself up thing is nonsense. That's not a pull up.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
So yeah, full extension, like you're hanging and you pull
your chin all the way up over the bar. I
think that would be very, very difficult to do. And so, uh, okay,
we got a couple of more cuts. I'm just gonna
I'm gonna keep hammering this home. I think my insurance
idea is genius.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Now, sure the staffs may mutiny, which is uh, we
may lose a few guys out there, but it's may
lose a few guys again. You ship people, You're tough.
I just come back to the deadliest catch. I would
I would ride on a straight of Hormuz boat over
(21:20):
trying to go catch what it was it trying to
catch crabs out in uh the uh out in the
Pacific Ocean. There's no way. It's freezing. They actually put
you have to clip in so that the waves knock
you off you don't drown. I'm not I'm not going.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Anywhere we have to clip in. If you if you
ever have to clip in for anything on a boat,
I'm out. You were just telling me I'm gonna be there.
Probably freeze to death before you drown in that water.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Just so you know. I mean, you can keep yourself up,
but you only have a few minutes before you go
full hypothermic, and that's not gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I'm not if you tell me, hey, you just gotta
clamp yourself in here, just to be saying I'm not
getting on that boat. But uh, but we got a
bunch of things you won't. Uh yeah, okay. Producer Greg
is sending me text messages. I am not excited about
swimming from Alcatraz, but it would end and unless a
(22:16):
shark ate me, I would survive. I'm not excited about
being shark bait because Buck got me nervous. That woman
got eaten on the triathlon just off the coast of California,
not very long ago.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
They swim from what's the great off the coast of La.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Catalina Festival happens, Yeah, beautiful Catalina Island. She's training for
the triathlon and a shark just eight And my buddy
was telling me, Buck, you sound like this sounds like
something you would have watched. There's a new documentary up
I think it's on Netflix about how taking away the
(22:54):
ability to hunt seals on the East Coast has led
to a huge increast in Great whites, and now there's
tons of people getting attacked because it's so much more
fertile hunting. Have you heard about this. There's a documentary.
You don't buy it.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
It's not tons of people getting attacked. I mean there's
you know, there's a few attacks here with you are
seeing there's some fifteenth is like.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
The mayor on Ambity Island who's upset when the shark
like he wants to open the beaches. A woman was
swimming with her daughter and either the mom or the
daughter just got to eat and off the coast by
a Great white. In the last year or so, they
were just a nice swim in the Pacific. No, No,
on the Atlantic side.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Well that was in I think you're talking about a
case in Maine, which is the only fatal shark attack
ever in the history of Maine, just as like five
six that was years ago, though that wasn't recently.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I'm telling you, I think it's connected to there being
more seals on the East coast now because we're not
letting people kill seals. This is what my buddy told me.
I gotta watch the documentary. It's super popular right now.
One of the biggest trending. They decided I'll watch it too,
because sharks. Shark scare me.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And I'm not the one who's going to be swimming
from Alcatraz Island to Sure that's gonna be Clay. I'm
gonna be drinking hot cocoa in the launch boat. But uh,
they're the the The shark thing is scary. We're gonna
get back onto the news of the day, everybody, I
promise you, because this is what happens. We get into
animal Thunderdome and all of a sudden, did you see
the guy in the belly of the crocodile South Africa?
(24:21):
Now he may have drowned first, because crocodiles will eat
things that people are already dead, you know, eat animal saw.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
That they lifted the crocodile by helicopter.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Clay weighs almost one thousand pounds.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Well that doesn't seem like a good decision to me,
That's what I'm saying. Like, who was the poor bastard
who had to hook the crocodile Like I would just
killed the crocodile on the beach.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Well, they wanted to do a full Uh they did
an autopsy. Yeah, and they found the guy's body and
they found I believe, six shoes, not his, in the
crocodile's belly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this was. This was Now
people will say, were those all people who drown? I
(25:06):
wouldn't bet on they all drown. I don't think this
is a serial killer crocodile. He has six shoes. Yeah,
nile like salt water and nile. Crocodiles are enormous and
very dangerous, and they kill hundreds of people every year.
If you want to know what animals are dangerous, all right,
I'm sorry, all right, I know we're weaving. We're weaving
(25:27):
the animals that are really First of all, in places
like South Asian and Southeast Asia, a lot more people
die of venomous snake bites than you would think. Snakes
are still very very dangerous. Crocodiles take out a lot
of people. Mosquitoes, like I said, are still, unfortunately the
number one killer of human beings by far. Buffaloes and
hippopotami are also very dangerous. Water buffalo and hippopotami. And
(25:52):
this is what happens when you're a guy who dune
scrolls animal stuff on your phone. You start to learn
all these facts, all right, Clay. We got straight up
for me.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
We got a bunch of talkbacks. This is Trump so
both funny and serious. Did we play We haven't played
Trump on? Do we play Trump on gas prices?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Right?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
We played a cut on that? Producer Greg helped me
out because I just send you a bevy of these.
Are any of these overlaps with what we have already
paid played or are all of these new? Because I
was grabbing this all just happened. I know we didn't
play this here. Trump is asked what Iran would have
to do to violate the ceasefire?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Cut thirty Do they need to do to violate the seafire?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Well, you'll find out, because I'll let you know. They
know what to do, and they know what to do,
and they know what not to do. More importantly, actually,
and you know they fired them in little boats with
P shooters, you know, the P shooters. Little boat we
little You know why, because they don't have any boats anymore.
The navy is comprised of they call them little boats
or little boats nfs.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Yeah, there's so fast that.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
They had eight of them and they're all gone, and
they're fast, but they're not fast like a missile.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
A missile is slightly faster. They're all gone.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
So they're looking around for little boats to try and
compete with our great navy.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
We have a navy that's unbelievable. You know. We set
up a blockaded as you know very well.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Not one ship couple tried and they got their engine
shut out.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Okay, and then here is another one. Trump says he
was asked, why hasn't anyone rose risen up against the
existing Iranian regime?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
And here's what he said. Cut thirty one.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
People say, why aren't they protesting? They want to protest,
but they don't have any guns. So you could have
two hundred thousand people protesting and have five or six
sick people with guns, and when they start shooting them
right between the eyes, and you see a guy fall
and another one fall, and you have no guns, very
few people would be able to stand there and to it.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
I mean, I understand it. I tell them not to.
Don't forget.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
They killed forty two thousand people last month, forty two
thousand unarmed protests and they had no guns. So they
had a two hundred and fifty thousand people crowd and
they had snipers, said like four or five snipers in
buildings up high and you're standing there and all of
a sudden, the guy in your left goes down and
somebody that's what happened with a women protest. They had
(28:19):
two hundred thousand women protesting a year ago, and everybody
thought that was the end of Iran.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I've been saying this for a while that a lot
of people got eliminated. Who would have been the brave
souls out there now? I think Clay, they were killed
during the crackdown. You want a clip, go ahead?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah, no, And this is just a fun and we
got loaded lines, a lot of you weighing in on
the insurance idea. We'll see whether you are like me
and just say, you know, full speed ahead. Damn the torpedoes.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
You're you're you're reminding me of this? Is it great?
A great scene in Brave Heart when Long Shanks is like,
is like arrows cost money, Sending the Irish the dead
cost nothing. You know? That's you right now, buddy, You're
the King of England sending in the Irish to get
their asses kicked because arrows are expensive.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Gotta get them out here? Is this is also funny?
I mentioned that the kids have the presidential fitness. Trump
is doing this press conference while there's a bunch of
kids standing around the Oval office. Trump asks the kid
if he thinks he could beat up Trump in a fight.
This is cut thirty four, So I.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Don't think we have to worry about you. Yes, you're
gonna do good. Are you a strong person?
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Yes? Good? I think you can take me in a fight.
That would be embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
That was like a twelve year old kid that is
standing next to Trump. Trump with kids buck underrated. I
actually think when they do events with Trump, because he's
actually a pretty good grandpa. When he was explaining to
the kids the Biden auto pen, I think it's hard
not to have a positive reaction to Trump when he's
(30:04):
interacting with kids at these White House and Ncster egg
roll Christmas related I still think turned down the radio
when Trump was talking with the kids about Santa Claus
and he asked how old? How old the kid was
about Santa Claus. That's one of the all time great
Trump clips. I honestly, all right, we got loaded lines.
We'll get to some of your loaded lines. We come
(30:25):
back in the meantime next weekend. I'm getting nervous, No
this weekend. This weekend is Mother's Day. This weekend his
Mother's Day. Right Sunday is Mother's Day. And so you
just heard me pause there for a sec I got
to be on top of it. This weekend is Mother's Day.
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Speaker 1 (32:02):
Do it today, Flash Learn hang with the guys right
there when you need them most. Clay and Buck just
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to Clay and Buck VIP email from West right out
of the gate, Clay, you told us you were going
to swim Alcatraz this July. That's only a few months away.
(32:24):
Am I hearing your career? Hearing you correctly? Are you
squiggling out of it already? Question Mark? Yes, at least
he's honest.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Now, I'm gonna take a couple of things here. One
I have not trained. Two Laura is actually concerned that
I might get eaten by a shark, and it's really
kind of gotten in my head that I might get
eaten by a shark. And Buck sharing that story about
the woman doing the triathlon getting eaten by the shark.
If there is a way she was sitting, she wasn't
(32:59):
eaten important distinction, she got bitten by the shark off
the west coast of California during the Catalina.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
She didn't get eat. She died. No, it's a bite.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
It was a little nibble, a little like, hey, what's
going on? The sharp thing is in my head and
I can't shake it. Yeah, I don't know off an
eight foot great white shark takes like a little nibble.
But like she lived, she did. Like here here is
here is my potential compromise. There is very safe In
the US Virgin Islands. There is a one and a
(33:28):
quarter mile swim across the bay in Megan's Bay. I
used to live overlooking it. When I was down there
over the holiday, I was looking at that and I
was thinking, now, granted it's warmer, but it's still a
mile and a quarter.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
And I feel like I could prove that I could
swim that mile and a quarter without being attacked by Oh,
I'm sorry, in your bath temper in your bath temperature
water under a beautiful sun. Do they give you a
back rub while you're doing it? I was preposterous of the.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Most of the bet that believed I could not do
it was about the distance more than it was about
the temperature of the water. I mean I was gonna
be in a wetsuit, nice warm wetsuit. This is I
appreciate the call. I feel very confident that I could
do it, and I'm willing to do it in a
way that does not put me at risk of being
(34:20):
eaten by a shark if we I'm gonna let the
plate a way to do that.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I'm gonna let Tom and Tampa bail you out here.
He's on the lines, Live Tom, what's going.
Speaker 7 (34:28):
On, Hey, cla clam bug listen. I just wanted to
hitchhike on Clay's comments about the insurance thing. There is
definitely some legs there, but I think it's important understanding
little history. Lloyd's of London is the insurer of last Resort,
(34:48):
as you guys know, but it's important understands of history.
In the three hundred and thirty seven years of Lloyd's
of London on the high seas ensuring vessels, this is
the first time and history, even the Yamkapour War, which
you would probably know about, Bark because of CIA. Even
the Yamkapour War, Loyd's of London is still insured. So
(35:11):
for this to work, each loss of a tanker at
the bottom of the sea. Including the cost of a
tanker and assuming a three hundred and forty five thousand
barrel of oil to the largest taker you can do
is about thirty five million dollars. So the asterisk to
Clay's idea is that the US would literally have to
(35:34):
take over Lloyd's position as the insurer of last resort.
And I don't know, Clay, you're an attorney. I don't
know the legal machinations of that. But the idea has legs.
But we But the problem is Lloyd, as I understand it,
for the first time in history, is refusing to ensure
everybody going through there. That is the real issue, and
(35:55):
I think I don't think anybody's really talking about that.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
No, Look, Tom, I should have explained a little bit
more this. Yeah, you're exactly right. My idea on ensuring
is predicated on many of the current insurers are saying
they will not ensure these boats. Your math is a
good one there. I would say thirty five million dollars
for a tanker if it went to the bottom of
the sea, that's like not even what a Somali daycare
(36:21):
makes from our government. So the overall cost here My
point is, and we'll talk about this a bit more,
because I do think it's an intriguing idea. The overall
cost would immediately vanish in terms of the premium on
oil and gas. We would get back far more than
we would be ensuring, in my opinion, and it would
(36:45):
I think, immediately knock twenty dollars off a cost of
a barrel of oil and gas, which would overwhelmingly make
gas prices more affordable.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
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