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The tables have turned. We've got so much winning going on it's hard to keep up. USAID and the wasteful spending of YOUR tax dollars. Clay's quiz bowl. AOC thinks Elon is dumb.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition of The Clay and Buck Show
kicks off right now, also known as The Clay Travison
Buck Sexton Show, but easier to say to the short one.
And we've got a lot to talk to you about today,
So brevity was he let's dive into it. Senate Finance
Committee has advanced RFK Junior's nomination. Looking pretty good for

(00:23):
HHS Secretary Chelsea Gabbard, also looking good cash, but tell
looking good. Trump's team coming together beautifully, and Elon is
going full Twitter on the Feds. And by that I
mean remember when he cut eighty percent of Twitter's staff
and everyone said, who's going to turn on the computers?

(00:46):
And now Twitter is more important and functions better than
it ever had before. Elon is taking that same mindset
at least and going after the federal government. There's an
incredible piece today in the New York Times. It's supposed
to be a hit piece, I think on Elon and

(01:09):
just how off the rails he and his team of
twenty somethings, one of them is nineteen years old. Elon
has essentially grabbed a bunch of one forty iq twenty
somethings to sleep on cots in the Office of Personnel
Management in DC, to work in offices at the old

(01:31):
Executive Office building, all with Trump's stamp of approval and
blessing to just go get it done, do the mission.
They've gotten access to the Treasury Department's payment system, They've
gotten access inside of OPM, which is the HR for
all of federal government employees. They have shut down the
US Aid office in DC, and all of this is

(01:56):
going on. You know what Elon says Clay about the
count of fraud that he thinks is happening with the
federal government every year, meaning the amount of money that
the federal government is paying that it should not pay,
that is fraud he's estimating. And remember he has super
user access everybody, you know he's he can see it.

(02:18):
He thinks, Clay, we are at seven hundred billion dollars
of fraud. Now, for those of us who've been screaming
and pounding the table for a long time now, certainly
over a decade. You know, the the estimate for Medicare
fraud alone is sixty to eighty billion dollars. So once

(02:38):
you start to piece and patch all these things together,
it doesn't seem like it's crazy at all to have
that number. Although that number is jaw dropping, right, it
seems like this is very possible. Clay Elon has been unleashed.
We'll get to the AOC thing at a second, but
I think people seeing these numbers, it's it's pretty staggering,
and it's also really encouraging that someone's finally doing something

(03:01):
about this. Well that's the thing, right, that we're finally
getting to it. Let me just kind of put this
context out there for you. Democrats are in a position
now where they are arguing we need remember this was
their huge argument a couple of years ago, we need
eighty seven thousand new IRS agents to catch all the

(03:23):
tax cheats out there, you me, all of you out
there listening. The half of Americans remember, it's only half
the half of Americans that actually pay federal income tax
This is a staggering stat that I should be talked
about more. Only half of Americans pay federal income taxes.
That's something other than payroll taxes. This is you finish

(03:46):
all of your work for the year, and you are
paying something other than payroll taxes. Only half, Okay, it's
an incredibly insane number. They want eighty seven thousand new
agents to go after the half of people that are
actually paying tax in this country federal income tax. And
if you opposed it at all, you are an indefensible cheat.

(04:09):
But we opposed it on this show because we pointed
out everybody thinks, oh, they're only going to go after
the billionaires. They're already doing that. I'm being audited every year.
They're already doing that. Donald Trump way richer than me.
He's getting audited every year. They're already coming after people
who pay substantial amounts of tax, the vast majority, and
this has been proven out. When they expand IRS enforcement,

(04:32):
they're going to come to a large extent for people
that are not super wealthy but that pay taxes. Okay,
you run a small business, they're going to be pouring
over your books. Okay, they want to do that, But
they simultaneously consider it an outrage that Elon would be
trying to figure out how much of the government taxpayer

(04:53):
dollars you're in my money that they are spending is
wasted and fraudulent. So they we don't trust the individual
taxpayer to be honest, but they do trust the federal
government to be flawless. I mean, it is an untenable
position for anybody out there thinking if I had to
ask you, I bet most of you If I said,

(05:15):
who do you trust more an average American or the
federal government? Who would you rather have helping you in
the wake of an immediate storm, your neighbor or relying
on FEMA to show up. Most of you, I think,
would say, yeah, I ask my neighbor for help. Most
of you trust the individual innate goodness of the average

(05:36):
American much more than you do the federal government. Democrats
buck are now in the position think about how untenableness
is to be arguing, how in the world can we
beholding our taxpayer dollars accountable and searching for fraud on
the money that we're actually spending. But simultaneously that's unacceptable,

(05:58):
but we need to be looking for every American's fraud.
It's it's like an It's an absolutely indefensible position. Well,
they've also put themselves in a place where the Democrats
are so upset about USAID, the United States Agency for
International Development. Marco Rubio has been phenomenal on this. By
the way, he shall now be known as Big Marco,

(06:19):
no longer Little Marco. People are saying he is the
some people are saying most Improved Award. Now, Marca Rubio
is great, a great senator from my state in Florida,
doing a fantastic job already as Secretary of State. And
he explained this that that really there's this sense that
USAID Clay operates outside the government chain of command, even

(06:40):
more so than the State Department, which I might add
also thinks in many ways that operates outside the presidential
chain of command, and they do whatever they want there
the career employees. And now you've got these Beltway democrats,
particularly liked the DC media blob. It's like, what do
you mean? I mean, you're cutting the budget for transgender

(07:03):
puppet shows in Mongolia. It's like, why are we funding
transgender puppet shows in Mongolia? Like what is this? Whose
idea is this? This is some global charity run by
leftist that's using your tax. It's one thing if they
were to write their own checks for this, you know,
if they want to do their own you know, comic
book about climate change in Bolivia, they can write checks

(07:26):
out of their own bank account. But they're doing it
out of your bank account. And you don't even know
about it, and they don't think they need to tell
anybody about it. And so Clay, the more that they
get angry about this, the more people say, really, we're
supposed to fund this and that. Because they haven't said
they're going to cut everything the USA Idea is doing.
They're saying it's going to go under the State Department
under Mark Rubio, and what is in US interest will

(07:49):
be done, but what is in the interests of the
bureaucrat commies is not going to be done. Also, a
couple of things that I think are important here as
we start to talk budget. For first of all, what
you just said, let's play Caroline Levitt, who was scheduled
to be on the program with US tomorrow by the way,
she had to bump in the wake of the awful
tragedy with the plane in DC last week's scheduled to

(08:11):
be on with US tomorrow. Here she is sharing some
of what you just referenced, USAID's DEI funding priorities cut five.
Listen to what your taxpayer dollars have been going.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
To through USAID over the past several years. These are
some of the insane priorities that that organization has been
spending money on one point five million dollars to advance
Dei in Serbia's workplaces, seventy thousand for a production of
a Dei musical in Ireland, forty seven thousand for a
transgender opera in Colombia, thirty two thousand for a transgender

(08:45):
comic book in Peru. I don't know about you, but
as an American taxpayer, I don't want my dollars going
towards this crap, and I know the American people don't either.
And that's exactly what Elon Musk has been tasked by
President Trump to do to get the fraud, waste, and
abuse out of our federal.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Government paying without I mean, let's fight on this hill
all day, lives. Bring it. Democrats explain why tax dollars
at a time where people are also feeling prices rise
for years, thank you, Biden, and have their own financial
challenges and are already beset by the expense of ten
plus million illegals who have piled into the country in

(09:20):
just the last four years. We're doing transgender operas in
Colombia now. And the point here, Clay is okay. They
might say, well, it's not that much money. Look how
big the budget is, well, then why are we doing this?
But why are we doing it at all? Well, why
does this come from the United States checkbook? Who's spending
their time? Remember, there's someone who's spending their time on this,
there's someone administering this program. There are meetings that are

(09:41):
being held on this. The whole thing is a scam totally.
And when I think you go to any of you
who have ever had to make a budget in your
own life, sometimes you don't have enough money, and that stinks.
I've been there. Most of you out there have been
there at some point. You haven't been able to get

(10:05):
your head above water because you simply don't make enough money.
That's not the US government's problem. It's not a revenue problem.
It's a spending problem. In fact, Buck And this is
a stat that I think everybody should be hammering home.
Do you know our budget would be balanced if we
merely returned to what the federal government was spending in

(10:27):
twenty nineteen. That's a stat that I think a lot
of you out there, the growth in spending that has occurred,
that they used COVID as an excuse to just pour
on money. If we just went back to the budget
that Trump had in twenty nineteen, it's a pretty big
freaking budget. We would have a balanced budget right now.

(10:48):
The revenue is not the issue, Clay. The two most
important things from a governance perspective right now in this
country are the illegal alien crisis and our borders, and
the spending and the growth of government and the madness
out of the swamp in DC right and these two issues.

(11:09):
Trump has gone just all in with his team and
having Elon look at this and deal with this. I
mean the fact that people at USAID would quoted this
yesterday are saying it is the apocalypse for USAID. This
is stuff that sounds like some dream from like a
conservative think tank twenty years ago. I mean, nobody has

(11:30):
been thinking this has been possible until Trump came along.
And when you see the scope of the fraud and
the abuse. And to Clay's point also about the government,
is you know, I think I received one year from
the IRS. I think they wanted like another one hundred
bucks or something because I had some ten that I've
paid seven figures. Thankfully. I'm very happy for my success

(11:53):
in taxes for the last seven or eight years. Okay,
just saying that not to brag, but the government told
me I owed thirty nine dollars in seventy five cents.
But this is this is about laws, the same laws
and the same system that bind you and me and
all of you listening to this for every penny, every

(12:14):
penny of your income, and the opaque, an absurd and
rigged tax code that is, you know, you have this
extreme obligation to the state, which by the way, should
also be chopped down considerably. I think there's a whole
conversation here about a flat tax, a fair tax, IRS
going down to much much lower levels. And on the
other hand, the government gets to spend and we get

(12:37):
sailors that right in don't say drunken sailors. I could
hold my liquor, but you know, like the proverbial drunken sailor,
I mean just running around spending money like crazy. And
we have thirty six trillion dollars of debt and the
fact that Elon and of course with Trump's you know,
he's kind of like the hand from a game of thrones,
right with Trump's approval, and Trump has made that very clear,

(13:01):
is going around and looking at this and saying that
he thinks he can remove hundreds of billions of dollars
of just pure waste at a federal expenditure. I mean,
this is more than most countries' GDP. We're talking about.
This is a vast sum of money that the government
is lighting on fire. And the DC Blob and the

(13:22):
Democrats are all against this. Good, let's see them be
against a clay. I want more of them explaining why
we need the transgender muppet shows in Cambodia or whatever
totally and the argument of well it's a small part
of the budget. Democrat, Republican, Independent, who was actually in
favor of this, who if you gave them the choice, Hey,

(13:43):
do you want your tax dollars to go to transgender
muppet shows in Cambodia? How many of you are like,
I'm in check mark, take my money right now, go.
This is how I want my money. By the way,
I wish, I wish I got to say somehow how
my tax dollars could be allocated. First of all, I'd
like to have way more of him back, like most
of you. Second, this to me feels like the closest

(14:05):
to a public advocate that we've ever had. I think
there's a lot of laziness in government. And let's be honest, Buck,
the talent that Elon Musk has and the tenaciousness is
almost without parallel in modern American history. He's gotten a
lot of young dudes like him that are just pouring

(14:27):
over the entire federal budget line by line to figure
out what we're actually spending. Look, I think Trump was
like CNN and the media BLOB's worst nightmare. Elon is
actually the bureaucracy. I think the DC swamp's worst nightmare. Yes,

(14:47):
you know, this really goes to his skill set and
credit to him, but also credit to Trump for seeing this.
This is what we wanted all along, Trump picking the
best people to do the critical things, and everything we
have seen going into week three here of this term
is he's doing exactly that. So it's it's an amazing thing.
But Clay AOC wants to weigh in, so make it.

(15:10):
We're gonna, We're gonna come back to this. AOC has
some thoughts on how smart Elon Musk is. You are
going to want to hear this, and I think it
explains a lot of where the opposition stands right now.
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yesterday on trade with Canada and with Mexico. He's got
so much winning going on it's hard to even keep
up with it. We come back here in a little bit.
AOC has said, and I couldn't believe this when I
listened to it, that Elon Musk is an unintelligent billionaire,

(17:00):
in fact, one of the least intelligent billionaires that she's
ever met or seen. This is real. We're gonna play
the audio for you, Buck. I have offered up that
I will host a quiz bowl, which would be Can
you imagine Elon versus AOC in a quiz bowl? I
think AO AOC's entire career would be over. There are

(17:25):
lots of things you ack people on. Elon being dumb
is maybe the worst front I've seen in a long time.
The thing about being a very dumb democrat is you
can be so dumb that you think you're smarter than
the smartest people on the planet, which is an amazing thing.
I mean he's better at sending spaces to rockets to

(17:46):
space than NASA much. Oh, he's not very intelligent. Is unbelievable.
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(18:51):
Elon MSS is doing amazing work in DC at the
behest of and direction of President Donald Trump, and you
love to see it. He tweeted out Clay that USAID
has been fed into the wood chipper, which is another
just the imagery, but it's it's important that this all

(19:14):
happens and that the federal government is put on notice
that the old way is not going to be the
way under Donald Trump. Things are changing and it's even
tough to keep up with the changes. By the way,
we will update you with anything on the confirmation of
RFK Junior and Tulci Gabbard as more information comes out
about that. Looking good for them, looking good for cash Betel,

(19:34):
but we are keeping an eye on that after the
show today. But AOC, she's like really smart and like
she does not think that like Elon mister, like ooh
space rockets, like silly little bumper cars man. She does
not think that Elon Musk is impressive. And here is

(19:55):
the great future hope of the Democrat Party. Congresswoman Alexandria
Casio Cortes. This dude is probably one of the most
unintelligent billionaires I have ever met, our witnessed, which you know,
you could probably even glean that from watching these people

(20:15):
into Anyways, all of that is to say is that
they don't do their homework. Clearly they're putting nineteen year
olds in at the Treasury. This dude is not smart,
and the danger in not in the lack of intelligence
and the lack of expertise that Elon has. I mean,
this guy is one of the most morally vacant but
also just least knowledgeable about these systems that we really

(20:40):
know of. Clay, how dumb do you have to be
to go in public and say that Elon Musk is dumb.
You could say a lot of things, but dumb is
just not one of the things you can say. I
kind of blown away by it. I mean, AOC, this
might be there's a lot We got a bunch of
clips of people saying it's on the Democrat side, but

(21:04):
to argue that the guy who is We talked about
this a little bit yesterday, Buck, but if anything, I
think it's being underanalyzed and discussed. We talked about the
historical record. Somebody called in I think, or sent us
an email and said, he's a modern day Benjamin Franklin.
I don't think that's a crazy idea. You can make
the argument that Elon Musk is the most accomplished American

(21:29):
of all time right now, and some of you out
there are going to say, wow, that's I mean, he's
sending rocket ships to space more efficiently than NASA. He
has redesigned the way that a car is propelled. He
is people don't even talk about it. He's building tunnels
buck that are like the greatest tunnels that have ever

(21:50):
been built. The Boring Company, which is a clever name. Yes, yes, yes,
he has bought Twitter and committed it to First Amendment
principles while also building a brand new AI company that
is built to some extent off of the data coming
from that. And he now is deciding, Hey, I'm going

(22:13):
to look at the books on the federal government, and
it reminds me a little bit. You read them, and
I read the book and I also watched it the
movie The Big Short, And the way that those guys
made money was they were like, well, what are these
mortgage backed securities? And they're like, well, they're actually just
a collection of, you know, hundreds or thousands of mortgages.

(22:36):
Michael Burry, who is the kind of the central figure
really in The Big Short, has Aspergers, yes, and you
know Aspergers as part of that condition. I remember reading
about this in the book. You can often have people
who will become very fixated. It could be like a
specific card game, or it could be I don't know

(22:57):
any number of different things. But he became fixated on
mortgage back securities and actually read the things that nobody
else would read. Literally, no one else would read it.
He's sitting there looking at Okay, well, they're like the
risk is lower because it's a mortgage backed security. We're
putting hundreds or thousands of them into these offerings, and
nobody's actually looking and seeing like, Okay, what are these

(23:20):
actual mortgages? How connected are they? And his big bet,
which panned out, was that they were all connected and
there was going to be a mortgage crash. Can I
also point out that he has been unbelievably wrong about
the stock market constantly, it seems, in public, since the
Big since the Big Short, since his incredible moment of genius,
he has basically been horribly wrong on a lot of

(23:42):
big things, which which actually makes sense because pessimists can
be wrong about one big thing very often, but optimists
tend to win. And basically, what when you short something,
you are saying, hey, I am pessimistic. There is not
that that mindset, that contrarian mindset often ends up being wrong.

(24:05):
You are borrowing shares to sell with the idea that
it will go down, the stock will go down, or
the market will go down, and you can buy it
back at a later date under a contract. Yes, and
so he made a ton of money there. He's lost
a lot since. But my point on using that as
an example is he actually went into the mortgage securities
and looked and said, okay, what are these made up of?

(24:29):
And that, in essence is what Elon is doing right
now in the government, because a lot of people just say, okay,
well the budget is nine hundred and sixty four billion
dollars for this company and then they break it or
this part of the government, and then they break it
out by saying twenty four percent goes here. And Elon
actually said, okay, where are the actual ledgers? What is

(24:49):
the accounting of the nine hundred and sixty four billion dollars.
Who's signing off on these checks? Where is the money
actually going? And most people have never even asked. USAID
has a forty three billion dollar budget, everybody, forty three
billion dollars. It is operating as though it is entirely

(25:14):
unaccountable to the rest of the executive branch. It is
not a congressionally constituted agency. It is a Jimmy Carter idea,
as if anything else needs to be said, and we
just operate in this world. Oh well, because it now exists,
it exists forever. I mean, Clay, forty forty billion dollars

(25:35):
is a lot of money. I mean, you know this
is no matter who you are, that is an astonishing
amount of funds to be wasting. I mean, I'm just
taking a look right now. Anyone want to guess what
Border Patrol's budget is? Border Patrol, I want you to
just think in your head. USAID gets forty billion, Clay,

(25:57):
what do you think Border Patrol gets? Oh, man, I
do legitimate sixty billion, one hundred billion, seven seven billion.
That's pretty crazy for border Patrol. The FDNY, the Fire
Department of New York, has like a two or three
billion dollar budget. Our entire border patrol gets seven billion dollars.

(26:21):
This is the twenty twenty four budget. Everybody and and
USAID gets forty billion dollars. Now that's pretty pretty. World
is a big place. But what matters to us more
everyone seven billion dollars is crazy buck Roughly, that would
mean I think I'm correct in this that basically a

(26:43):
lot of like the NFL teams spend more money to
pay NFL players than we do to actually secure the border.
Like that kind of the entire NFL payroll maybe bigger
than what we pay for the border. Yeah, but that
doesn't that sound crazy to you? Like, I mean when
you you think about the that that is it is
staggeringly whoe to me some to be uh. I mean

(27:08):
that that is especially when you consider what the cost
of the failure to do it is. Right, because whatever
you spend on the protection of the border, that I'm
in disbelief. I have been very impressed with mister Sequan
Barkley's runs lately though, to be fair, he's been doing
a phenomenal job. So those those those gentlemen on the

(27:30):
NFL are earning their earning their their their money. I
just think it's funny too. I only know about the
super Bowl because people have asked me what you think
about the super Bowl, So I appreciate the reminder on
that one. They're like, what does Clay think about the
super Bowl? I am. I'm excited to get down to
New Orleans tomorrow. I just saw President Trump is going
to go to the game, which which should be good. Obviously,

(27:51):
New Orleans still recovering from the fourteen It's amazing how
quickly some stories vanished. Democrats talked about January sixth for
still do for four years plus. Now the terror attack
in New Orleans like it never happened, right, I mean,
fourteen people killed, three am ish on Bourbon Street, New Orleans,

(28:12):
a place that many of you have been to, just
happened a month ago. Super Bowl is going to be
there now, it's like it never happened. There's like those
fourteen people now. I think Fox will do a good
job drawing attention to them. I'm sure one reason President
Trump is going is to help honor the memories of
those that were lost there. But deadly terror attack happens

(28:32):
on Bourbon Street, fourteen people dead, It's like most people
have already forgotten about it, moved on. So bringing us
back to the cutting of government expense here for a second.
Someone else who has the writ of Trump to go
and do what he needs to do is Lee Zelden,
who you remember, congressman from New York. He's the head

(28:54):
of the EPA. This is cut twenty. What's it like
at the EPA these days? Here is what the workforce
is up to. You play twenty.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
I think it's important for our team to be showing up.
I was just briefed yesterday that on Mondays and Fridays,
the EPA headquarters was was averaging about five to eight
percent capacity. I mean, think about how low that number is.
We need people in the office collaborating, working together. We
need to be productive and efficient. As far as ramping

(29:24):
up efforts on the ground. Right now in Los Angeles,
EPA has just launched what is the largest wildfire cleanup
in the history of the EPA.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
But I think it's very important.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
That we have our team here in headquarters and in
the regions showing up, working hard to make the American
public crowd.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
I just say, Clay, five to eight percent of EPA
workers show up on Mondays and Fridays. So every weekend
at the EPA is a super is like a super
long holiday week. Every weekend is a long weekend. Think
about this gig for a moment. Any I think these
EPA work with. They're sitting at home, locked at a desk,

(30:03):
just pouring over reports and saving the clean water and
stopping the climate change scam, scam of it. Eight percent
showing up. You know how many people you probably needed
the at the EPA about eight percent probably so. And
by the way, you know who a huge percentage of
the eight percent is security when you actually strip out
the security guard presence and janitors, people who are actually

(30:28):
doing work to you know, make the job doable. By
the way, I just saw a graphic. USAID gives three
billion dollars a year to the BBC. The BBC like,
what are we doing here? I mean what we've seen
And this is why this is brilliant. This is a

(30:48):
brilliant maneuver by the Trump administration and and Elon operating
under Trump's umbrella here Clay USAID has been operating as
a slush fund for left wing ideology around the world

(31:09):
for decades really, but certainly in recent years and under Biden.
And now that we're uncovering this, people are The Democrats
are in a tough position, Clay, because they're upset because
the slush fund might be going away. But how much
do they really want to try to explain to You
can't be telling me, as Chuck Schumer is, look at
the price of eggs. You can't be complaining about the

(31:30):
price of eggs and saying that we need three billion
dollars for you know DEI transgender awareness workshops in Slovenia.
I look, I was, and I said it on the show,
skeptical that Elon would stay that committed to the US
government for very long because I thought he would get frustrated.

(31:52):
I think what he's finding is that it's far more
fraud riddled and corrupt than even he thought it was,
and that now his But now he's like, man, there's
a lot of hay to be made here, right. There
is a lot of work that can be done on
behalf of the American people. And I'm actually super optimistic

(32:13):
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baby coming, so it's gonna be a little bit chaotic
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(34:23):
gonna do some form of meetup. I've been saying I
want to go to San Antonio. I know they got
the final four there this year in San Antonio, so
that might be a tough overlap. Probably hard to get
hotel rooms. But I want to go to the Alamo.
I want to go visit San Antonio again. I would
like to visit the Battle of San Jacino as well. Again.
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you can get a signed copy of American Playbook. I
hate being wrong. So I just have to take this
one on the chin. I said, I'm running off the
cuffe here getting fired up that Jimmy Carter started usaid.
It was Kennedy who started usaid, But as far as
I'm concerned, that's not any better. So just a quick
ombudsman note there. Sorry, not always right, So Clay, when

(35:53):
we come back, Buck, I've got a fun one that
I'm gonna I don't know if anybody else ever done this.
I've been trying to get my I am seventeen year
old junior in high school to study for the act
and the sat I challenged him to a head to
head act challenge, which I believe we are doing tonight.

(36:16):
I'm getting a little nervous about how cooked I might get.
I have not taken a standardized test in as you
would well imagine, a very very long time. I need advice.
We'll have some fun with this in the next hour.
I don't think it's gonna be pretty bucked. Carter established
a Department of Education. By the way, sorry,

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