March 13, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show begins with both hosts broadcasting from Florida as Clay navigates spring break with a house full of teenagers, but the lighthearted opening quickly shifts to the escalating wave of Islamic extremist terror attacks across the United States. Clay and Buck recap four confirmed jihadist‑motivated attacks within a two‑week span: the deadly Austin, Texas shooting by an attacker wearing pro‑Iran and Islamic clothing; the attempted IED attack outside New York City’s Gracie Mansion; the mass‑casualty attempt at Temple Israel near Detroit, where an armed synagogue security officer killed the would‑be bomber; and the horrifying classroom attack at Old Dominion University in Virginia, where a convicted terror sympathizer opened fire on ROTC students before being killed in hand‑to‑hand combat by the cadets. The hosts repeatedly emphasize that all four attackers shared the same ideological motive, each acting in response to the ongoing U.S. and Israeli military operations against Iran. Buck, drawing on his CIA counterterrorism background after 9/11, explains that this pattern is exactly what intelligence analysts anticipate following major U.S. strikes on jihadist‑aligned regimes, and he predicts that more lone‑wolf or sleeper‑cell events are highly likely.
The hour also focuses heavily on updated messaging from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, whose early‑morning briefings continue dominating national conversation. Clay and Buck play and analyze Hegseth’s latest remarks confirming that Iran’s newly elevated figurehead, Mojtaba Khamenei—nicknamed “Little Mo”—is gravely injured, likely disfigured, and incapable of appearing on camera, forcing the regime to issue written statements pretending he is functional. Hegseth asserts that Iran’s leadership is hiding underground in bunkers and is unable to coordinate an effective counterattack, leaving the regime temporarily paralyzed as U.S. and Israeli forces dismantle its missile defenses, airfields, and naval assets. Buck notes that while the air campaign has been strategically devastating to Iran, the regime is not collapsing; the IRGC remains in control, citizens are too terrified to revolt, and true regime change is not in sight without boots on the ground—a step neither Trump nor the American public would support.
Clay and Buck explore multiple strategic theories circulating about the next phase of the Iran conflict. Clay references analysis suggesting that Little Mo may only be a symbolic placeholder while more moderate Iranian factions quietly negotiate with the U.S. behind the scenes; Buck strongly doubts this, arguing the regime is too fear‑driven and too brutal for internal moderation to emerge under bombardment. Clay also raises the provocative military proposal of U.S. and Israeli special forces seizing Iran’s critical oil‑refining hub on Kharg Island—responsible for processing approximately 90 percent of Iran’s crude—as a way to cripple the regime without a full‑scale invasion. Buck explains the immense geopolitical consequences such a move would trigger but acknowledges why strategists find the idea compelling, given refined oil is Iran’s economic lifeline.
The hosts then return to the domestic terror threats, praising the extraordinary bravery of U.S. citizens who stopped these attacks. Clay reads a full tribute to Lieutenant Colonel Brandon Shaw, the highly decorated ROTC commander killed during the Old Dominion attack. Shaw’s students fought the gunman bare‑handed and killed him before he could inflict mass casualties—a display of courage that Clay and Buck argue exemplifies America’s resilience. They contrast these heroics with the dangerous disarming policies Democrats push nationwide, reiterating that every successful intervention in these attacks involved a “good guy with a gun” or an armed security officer. The hosts argue forcefully for armed security in every school and religious facility, calling it a necessary protection in an era where America is facing a clear resurgence of jihadist terrorism.
Hour 1 closes with discussions about firearm ownership, rising gun purchases among suburban women, and the collapse of the Democratic narrative that “white supremacy is the greatest threat” to national security despite the undeniable pattern of jihadist attacks. Clay and Buck end the hour honoring six U.S. service members killed in a mid‑air refueling accident in Iraq, reminding listeners that the Iran conflict—though tactically successful—is not cost‑free. They preview upcoming interviews, including an in‑depth conversation with California gubernatorial candidate Steve Hilton as the state heads toward a chaotic top‑two primary.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in m clay Travis Buck Sexton show, both from Florida,
although opposite ends of the state. I am on the Panhandle.
Buck is down in South Florida. As spring Break twenty
twenty six arrives in the Travis household, pray for me.
I'm gonna have a bunch of eighteen year olds, my
(00:22):
son and several of his friends down for spring break
with Dad as chaperone.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
So we will see how that goes. But that is officially.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Underway, and we've got a lot to update you on
yet another early morning press conference from Secretary of War
Pete Hegsath, laying out all the particulars that is dominating
discussion as we begin the day here on the Friday
edition of the program, We're going to go out to
(00:51):
California at the top of the next hour, just to
give you a heads up. The primary in California is
getting closer and closer. Steve Hilton Republican can that they're
the top two advance regardless of party. We will discuss
all of that and what is a free for all
absolute Donnybrook that has broken out in California. What is
the latest there on who might be the next governor
(01:13):
to replace Gavin Newsom. But Buck, I think we began
where we basically ended yesterday's show with the news coming
of it officially, as we told you it was likely
to be having been yet another terror attack. Two different
terror attacks happening yesterday. One in Virginia at Old Dominion.
(01:34):
We'll get into some of the details there. Brave Rozzi
students were able to disarm and kill the would be
terrorists with their bare hands, and that is pretty remarkable.
We will talk about it. One loss of life there.
We will certainly honor that loss of life as well.
(01:57):
In West Bloomfield, Michigan, outside of Detroit, a clear attempted
terror attack, A good guy with a gun ended it
and took and killed the life of the would be terrorist.
But coming on the heels of Austin, Texas wear a
guy in an Iran shirt and a pro Islam sweatshirt
(02:19):
on top of that killed two innocent people and wounded
several others. You then have the situation in New York
City where two would be Isis sympathizers tried to throw
IEDs outside of Gracie Mansion in New York City, which
fortunately did not go off. And now we are sitting
here with Austin, Texas, New York City, Old Dominion University
(02:44):
in Virginia, and just outside of Detroit in Michigan, four
different Muslim fundamentalist motivated terror attacks in the space of
about two weeks. It feels unlikely to me that this
is the end of it. Buck, and you joined the
CIA some time ago, specifically to help catch the bad
(03:06):
guys after nine to eleven, so you are particularly well
versed in this. What is your reaction now that we
have what we suggested was likely to be the case,
but now have complete confirmation that all four of these
attacks have the same motive in place as the war
in Iran continues, What would CIA analyst Buck Sexton be
doing this morning if he was in Langley. Well, I
(03:29):
think we can count on the New York Times, The
Washington Post, CNN and others to remind us that while
all the terrorist attacks that are actually happening are Islamic radicals,
the real threat of terrorism in this country remains white supremacy.
That's the real thing, which is was the focal point
(03:49):
of Biden's presidency was arguing the biggest danger that we
all face for those of you who have forgotten. He
constantly gave us multi years of that argument.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And I just think that we're one Islamic Ji hottist
or I guess that's kind of repetitive, because all jihatis
are Islamic. But one ji hottest terror attack away from
some guy instead of yelling a lah walk bar before
he hits the plunger on the suicide vest, maybe he'll
scream out the real terrorist threat is white supremacy kaboom.
(04:22):
I just wonder at what point the Democrats will have
to reassess reassess the big white supremacist threat. By the way,
Perkapita is also something that tends to challenge the left
and Democrats tremendously. They have no understanding of this whatsoever.
They compare the overall threat of Islamic terrorism and the
overall threat of white supremacist terrorism in this country.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
They also always leave out there.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Are five million, six million Muslims in the country, maybe
seven million, something like that. I didn't even know how
many white people there are, one hundred and fifty million,
one hundred and eighty million.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
So the fact that you're even having a conversation about
where is the real threat of And I just want
to be very clear, there are Jihadis who are white.
It's actually not about race at all. But the Democrats
don't understand that. They have no you know, remember the
guy who's captured, who's fighting for the Taliban, like that
can happen too.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Islam is an ideology. It's not a skin color. It's
not a race.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
They always try to conflate those things because they know
that if they can make it about racism, well that
everyone's oh my gosh, it's not racism, it's about an ideology.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Okay, No one's sitting here saying, you.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Know what the real threat of tourism is right now,
all the Buddhists in America, Oh my gosh, I'm so
scared of them. Has nothing to do with skin color,
has to do with ideology. And this is exactly what
you would expect after Remember, it's not just American strikes
on Iran, it is American Israeli strikes, American slash and
Israeli strikes on Iran. And so the fact that Israel
(05:48):
is just blowing up Irani and stuff left and right too,
that really sets off the Jihati community. And looking at
the Iran situation, Klay today. I know Hexath talked about it.
We have some more.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Well, you know what here, let's have here's secretary war.
This cut one.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
The not so Supreme leader, he says of mouch taba
little mo as Clay calls him, this is cut one play.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Iran's leadership is in no better shape. Desperate and hiding.
They've gone underground, cowering. That's what rats do we know?
The new so called not so supreme leader is wounded
and likely disfigured. He put out of statement yesterday a
weak one actually, but there was no voice and there
was no video.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
It was a written statement.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
He called for unity. Apparently killing tens of thousands of
protesters is his kind of unity. Iran has plenty of
cameras and plenty of voice recorders. Why a written statement,
I think.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You know why.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
His father dead, he's scared, he's injured, he's on the run,
and he lacks legitimacy.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's a mess for them.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Who's in charge Iran may not even know.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Now this is on the good side of things, Clay,
that we're just there's no military CounterPunch from Iran whatsoever.
The concerning side of this or the side of this.
I think everybody needs to understand as well. The Iranians,
he said this, the Iranian leadership. Now they're fully hiding
under in bunkers and they're not meeting in any kind
(07:18):
of consolidated place, and they're just gonna ride this thing out,
and there's no opposition taking to the streets. So the
regime is not changing, everyone. The regime is not changing.
We just have a defanged, temporarily Iranian regime. Maybe they'll
have a different approach to the next round of negotiations,
but I do not see regime change happening here now.
(07:38):
Some of you will be, I think, happy with that
because it also means no US boots on the ground
and a limited mission. Clay I read this morning getting
ready for the show a couple of different angles that
I thought were super interesting that we could dive into
a little bit later in the program. One David Boyce,
who is probably the foremost trial attorney, who is a
(08:00):
Democrat in terms of intellectual theft and success in the country,
whatever you think about his politics, wrote a great editorial
in The Wall Street Journal saying Democrats need to stop
reflexively being opposed to President Trump. That it's actually a
really good thing that we went into Iran and he
lays out a very strong argument. I thought, and and
(08:23):
I was impressed that he did it.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Did you did you see this?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Because I do think it's a little bit of an interesting,
interesting shift.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You don't think you have more respect for Boys because
of his lawyer success than I tend to give in
that he served as a board member and council for Thearanos,
the fraudulent blood testing company, and basically.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Threatened to uh.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Go after Wall Street Journal reporters who were trying to
unearth that Theronos was a giant fraud. So he got
taken in by that whole thing, I guess.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
But everybody did it seems if you go read that book,
Bad Blood, it's one of the best books that's been
written in a long.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
But remember, Boys is like the bad guy who shows
up in the Wall Street Journal's offices and is like,
everything we've done, everything their nose did is on the
up and up. We're going to go after you. So
I'm just saying fair being very nice about this guy.
That's a pretty sketchy sy I.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Would want the most zealous advocate possible, and I think
that's what he sees his role.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
As his lawyer.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Clay claim, Look, you could represent the head of the mob,
and Clay's like, hey, everybody needs counsel, Hey.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Everybody needs Hey. In fact, there's news that's just gone out.
I put my money where my mouth is. Uh, Laura
and I have made a big donation to Vanderbilt Law
School that is predicated on the idea that every different perspective,
because a lot of conservative perspectives are ridiculed in the
law right now, should be taught in law school, and
(09:50):
that lots of people who are military should have the
ability when they finished their service to go get a
law degree. So we're putting our money where our mouth
is on this so that we have zealous advocacy. So
putting aside that argument, here's something I think that is
interesting that is starting to be floated as well, the
idea that little Mo the that is the son of
(10:13):
obviously the Ayatola who was killed, that actually we are
negotiating with different elements of Iran that are more moderate.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I'm curious if you would buy this.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
And inside of Iran they are using this guy who
may not even be able to speak based on the
significant injuries that have occurred to him, and Hegseth laid
out they didn't put a video, they didn't even have
audio of his statement that they released yesterday that they
are using him as a figurehead to make it seem
like the revolutionary elements of Iran are still in a
(10:49):
position of strength, but that in reality there are backchannel
negotiations going on and we might be setting up some
form of relationship there. Do you buy it to see?
I analyst bock by this guy's son being the figurehead
who's incapable of communication, and very few people know it,
and there are other individuals who now have risen to
(11:10):
power that are interacting with the US. That is one
theory that is out there. I hope that's true.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I would bet a large sum of money that ends
up not being the case. I think unfortunately, we've done
everything that can be done from the sky, and there's
a hard red line on boots on the ground, and
I think it's the right red line, to be clear.
I agree with that red line, and there's a limit
to what you can do from the air. And the
Iranians have known now they got sucker punched a bit
(11:37):
on this. They were not obviously putting all their leadership together.
They didn't expect that we would hit them when we did.
They didn't expect to get hit in daylight. They didn't
expect all of this, so that was pretty incredible. And
they didn't know that we knew so much about where
they would be. That all said, though, these are the
limitations of what you can do when you don't control
(11:59):
the ground, and we don't control the ground, and the
IRGC is still the security apparatus in that country, and
nobody wants to be the first one to poke their
head out their door be like, you know, maybe we
could do something different here, because your head's not going
to stay on your shoulders.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
That's the concern.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
The other suggestion that I have seen is that we
should take the island with boots on the ground, delta
force style where they actually produce all the oil, and
just take control of their ability to produce oil. Because
this is kind of crazy. Iran is continuing to produce
oil and you're talking about grabbing carg Island. I mean that, yeah,
(12:37):
some pretty next level stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
That is.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I was doing all my reading buck I was trying
to prepare myself, like what are the different a goods.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
You're going deep onto this one. Well, I'm fascinated by it.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I don't have the background of knowledge that you do,
so I'm trying to read as much as I can.
And there's an idea out there that Israeli and US
special forces could seize the island of oil production and
basically end any ability of Iran to have control over
the ingress or egress of oil. Not dissimilar in some
(13:09):
ways to what we did with Venezuela, but just take
control of this island and say, hey, we now are
the captain of the Iranian oil ship and we determine everything.
Because it's kind of crazy to me, buck I didn't
realize Iran has continued to refine and be shipping oil
even as we have been attacking them. I think that
(13:30):
would surprise a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I mean, carg Island is essentially where all of the
processing of oil. Remember there's you'll hear these things, and
I know that some of you are listening to this
or like, I've been an oil man for forty years, buckleet,
you know a lot more than me. And sorry, I'm
just assuming the oil men are in Texas has Pardon me,
but I know there's other places, but you know there's
some of you know, this stuff backwards and forwards, but
(13:53):
you hear things like heavy crude and sweet crude and all.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
This different stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
This it has to be refined for its usable in
the marketplace. Right, It's not just like it pumps out
of the ground that it goes right into a car.
And ninety percent of car of Iranian oil is processed
at Carg Island. And you're talking about almost a billion
barrels of oil a year there, right, So if you
are you don't have to stop the oil for being
(14:18):
pumped out of the ground, nor do you have to
touch the oil infrastructure that does that, which would be
a very very bad idea to have essentially a total
choke point for Iranian oil exports because they can't refine it,
they ain't selling it. This is the same way, one
hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
And this is why I think, in addition to not
wanting to give away strategic operational goals, this is why
boots on the ground doesn't necessarily mean tens of thousands
of troops. It could mean not only on this Carg Island,
but also on some of the nuclear mountainous terrain that
you might have to go into. It could mean elite
(14:55):
commando style raids with boots on the ground that is
very different than and what we saw, for instance, in Iraq.
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Speaker 4 (16:36):
So I want to give a shout out to the
Rozy students and their instructor.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
They did a great job.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
God bless you guys, and claim Buck great job too,
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Speaker 3 (16:45):
Take care, Hey, Charlie, Charlie, God blessed. Thanks for listening
to us behind liberal lines there at NYC. Let me
say this, Clay so he's referring to this mass shooter
at Old Dominion. Also a Jie hottist a convicted terror
supporter got let out early.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Good lord.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
He walked into a classroom an Old Dominion said is
this ROTC? And when someone said yes, he just pulled
out a gun and started shooting. One of the ROTC
students had a blade and ended this guy right there,
just took him out. Now, I mean, first of all,
Clay pointed this out. Obviously he was targeting ROTC because
(17:25):
he thinks that he's going after like our military in
a way, which you know, this is a terrorist attack
in a classroom. But beyond that, this is a guy
who underestimated who he was dealing with.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
He picked the wrong dude staff around with, I think
in basic parlance, and we should when we come back,
honor because one loss of life. I believe he was
a major in charge of ROTC in Old Dominion lost
his life and we should make sure that we honor him.
But I think it speaks to the bravery of these
(18:00):
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this guy and killed him.
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Friday edition
of the program. We were just talking about the terror
attack at Old Dominion University in Virginia, and we mentioned
that the Razi students apprehended, killed, and disarmed this individual
with their bare hands during the attack. Unfortunately, one life
(19:16):
was lost and I want to make sure that I
read this correctly, the victim of the terror attack at
Old Dominion. This is according to Greg Price, who does
good work on social media has been identified as Lieutenant
Colonel Brandon Shaw, who was a professor of military science
and the leader of the university's RATZI program. He was
(19:38):
a veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom, Operation Enduring Freedom, and
Atlantic Resolve. His awards included two Bronze Stars, Senior Army
Aviator Badge, Combat Action Badge, Parachutist Badge, Arissault Badge, Defense
Meritorious Service Medal, Meritorious Service Medal, Air Medal with Valor,
Joint Service Commendation Medal, Army Commendation Medal, and the Joint
(20:03):
Service Achievement Medal. He died on the campus in this attack.
His students disarmed and killed the attacker. But we want
to make sure that we honor the individuals who are
victims of these different terror attacks. Again, Lieutenant Colonel Brandon Shaw,
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and if there are people out there listening to us
right now that know anything about him or served with him,
it'd be great to hear some of your talkbacks. But Buck,
this is we were as we went to break just
talking about this. I think one of the stories here
is there is so much innate goodness in America. The
(20:50):
attack would be attack on the synagogue in northern Michigan
or just north of Detroit and Oakland County, still southeastern Michigan,
but just worth of Detroit. These guys were ready for
it and they killed the attacker. This was I think
the number was over one hundred kids in a Jewish
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preschool that were there that could have been victims but
for the security being there. The only person who died
on that day yesterday was the would be attacker in
basically his vehicle that he drove in intending to blow
up and kill as many people as possible. Again, everybody
needs to say stay hyper vigilant given what's going on
(21:33):
right now. But I think it's a testament to the
bravery of so many people across America that we have
now had four would be terror attacks, four actual terror attacks,
and I believe there have only been three victims. Every
loss of life is awful. I believe two people lost
their lives in Austin, innocent people at a bar when
a guy started shooting. And now this Razi leader on
(21:56):
Old Dominions campus, but no deaths, and these guys were apprehended.
In New York City, the brave police officer who we
talked about who jumped over the barricade and went and
tackled them immediately and got them arrested. The brave security
officials at the synagogue who killed this would be a terrorist,
(22:16):
I mean to have. I think it's five different terrorists,
if I'm not mistaken, who have attempted to take as
many lives as possible, and for them to only get
three lives, and for the bravery of responders to immediately
take them out, I think as a testament to security
officials and also just the bravery of first responders and
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everybody out there in America right now. But unfortunately, I
know you're looking and thinking about this quite a lot
based on your background. It seems unlikely this is going
to be the end, and so more are coming.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
No, it's not the end, and they tend to hold
grudges in the jeeh hottiest world, So it's not like
even if the air campaign stops tomorrow, which I don't
think it will, they would say, Okay, we're gonna leave
things alone now and move on with our lives. I
would just second what you said, Clay about the security
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at that synagogue in Michigan. Think about this probably saved
I don't know, dozens of lives by being armed, present
and ready to go. I understand the bomb didn't go
off that this guy had in his car, but he
was prepared for that possibility, and he also had I believe,
(23:30):
a rifle and was ready to start shooting people. And
if you're in a synagogue and you don't have armed security,
even if you rush a shooter like this, a lot
of lives are gonna be lost in that process. And instead,
no innocent life was lost in the process. It's just
a reminder the good guy with a gun thing that
(23:52):
Democrats still sneer at. They don't really ever want to
look at what actually works, what actually keeps people safe,
you know.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I mean, I gotta tell you.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Even here in Miami, I'll see sometimes like a venue
or a place and they'll say, you know, no weapons allowed,
And I just want to be like, you know, you're
you're just disarming the good guys. Yeah, you're just saying
in a state where we have very pro to a laws, thankfully,
Florida is great on this. New York is New York
(24:23):
City is preposterous. New York City is just one big
violation of the Second Amendment. But you look at Florida
Florida's great, but you go private venues, you know, for
concerts things like that, and they're you know, they'll have
no weapons signs, and you know, now you got to think, Okay,
I'm gonna be in I'm gonna be in violation of
law if I care.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
What is the point of that.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
If someone, whether they're a gang member or a terrorist,
wants to hurt people, they're carrying the gun no matter what.
You know, I just I don't know how many times
we have to go through this. You know, Virginia is
currently looking at a at legislation to create some kind
of a ban. You know, they're going to have some
specific Senate but essentially an assault rifle man in Virginia. Yeah,
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after Moderate Spamberger fooled enough Virginia soccer moms that she
was able to and you know, dads, she was able
to win the election. And you sit here and you
just go when will the lesson be learned? When do
they figure out that they're little rules and they're little
you know, they're they're pro clutching over people who like
to go shooting on the weekends. We're law abiding Second
(25:28):
Amendment people. They're wrong, They're just wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
On this issue.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
If we had listened to them and had not had
armed security at the synagogue, you know, god knows what
would have happened there.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, and again, you're really just notifying the bad guys
where they should go. When you say gun free zones,
you're just telling them, hey, this is an opportunity to
go after people who are predominantly not gonna be able
to defend themselves.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
And this is why.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Look, I hope what happened at the synagogue. I hope
it's a lesson to every school and every religious institution
in America. I would prefer that there be armed security everywhere.
My kids go to schools with a lot of armed security.
I want everybody's kids going to schools with a lot
of armed security, public school and private school. By the way,
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in Tennessee where I am, I feel very fortunate when
I drop my kids off and I see the security
guard strapped, and I think most of you out there
listening right now feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Here's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
It also is important, for instance, one of my kids
in the elementary school right now, when you have an
officer in the school, young kids learn that they can
trust police and that police are there to help them,
which they might not hear at home. And so having
a school resource officer who is there, who is armed,
who is there to make sure that the kids are
(26:53):
all safe. It's an important lesson. I hope that they
never have to use their weapon ever, but it's an
important lesson for young kids to begin to understand that
police are not bad guys. And unfortunately, there's lots of
people out there who will try to teach them that
police are bad guys.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
You know, the estimates are that it would be maybe
ten billion dollars to have armed security at least available
in every school in America. Ten billion dollars. I mean
that's like around you how many fakes? Yes, how many
fake Somali daycares? Is that not that many?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I mean how many fake autism centers in California, which
we're going to talk about that later, by the way,
just people ripping off the system with fraud. Yes, ten
billion dollars to keep school safe. And people say, oh,
but sometimes they'll shoot the security guard.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Okay, nothing is perfect everyone, but you know, you would rather.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Them have to shoot the security guard first than immediately
go to kids and teachers.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
You know, it's really imperfect making me wait five days. Well,
if you ever conceal care, you can actually, but you know,
making people wait five days and I'm still waiting for
my I can still carry permit to arrive. Actually I've
already applied for it before I can go get my
like ninth gun or whatever that's keeping people make me
wait five days before I can get my latest range
my latest range gun. You know, like this is idiot rules.
(28:19):
These are idiotic rules, and people still push them.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
So the guns are scary. They go bang bang, is loud,
loud and scary.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
They know nothing, you know what I've also been seeing,
and I want to encourage this. Carol Markowitz is a
friend of the program. She's part of the Clay and
Buck podcast network. She's learned how to use a gun.
My wife now goes to the range once a week.
Laura's kind of nasty with a pistol.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
She is.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
She is very talented with a weapon.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
But I've been amazed at how many women I now
meet who you wouldn't expect to be very adept at weaponry,
that are aware that danger is out there and they
want to be able to take care of their families,
and I think the number of guns has skyrocketed.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
This is the real impact of trying to regulate guns
is every time democrats try to regulate guns, it's the
greatest advertisement for guns that has ever existed. Everybody out
there understands what I'm talking about. As soon as there
is the hint of gun regulation, millions more guns get
sold almost overnight, and the amount of guns in good
(29:29):
hands has skyrocketed. I would say, since you've seen it, Bucks,
since since twenty twenty, where people just thought that they
were never going to be in danger and they've seen
crime and they say, I'm not risking or relying on
somebody getting to me. I'm going to take care of
my family.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
The same way that Mayor Mamdani is currently Florida real
Estate Salesman of the Year. Barack Obama was actually National
Firearms Salesmen of like the decade because every time they
would try to browbeat us and shout at us and
say give.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Up all your ar fifteens and give up all you
people would just go out and get more. Yes. No,
I mean, well I'm gonna get grandfathered in. Now. That's
totally right.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
And by the way, if you want to go to data,
We've got more guns in America than we ever have.
Crime is overall going down substantially the lowest in one
hundred and twenty five years when it comes to murder
based on the data from twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
And you know this, I.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Think it should be screamed from the heavens more loudly.
If you have a legal permit to own a gun,
your rate of criminal violation is infinitely lower than the
average American is. Gun owners are the most law abiding
community on the planet. And again that's a data set
that isn't very well known, but I think is consequential
(30:48):
in signal you're referring to as CCW holders have fewer
infractions of law per capita than law enforcement, which is
straight that's even even right, I mean, because you're talking
about it is evidence that should be within the public
discourse on a level that it is not. We'll take
some of your calls, we'll take some of your talkbacks,
(31:10):
and we'll play a couple more cuts about everything that's
going on here on the Friday edition of the program.
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Speaker 3 (32:34):
Back and Team to Clay and update you on something
as we're talking about the Iran situation. Confirm now a
tragedy in Iraq. Six service members are dead after a
US Air Force refueler CAC one thir five tanker was
involved in an accident with another KC one thir five.
(32:56):
So this is Look, anytime you're talking about milit aviation,
especially military aviation doing mid air refuels, there is danger.
And we had six, six brave service members who gave
their lives, gave their lives for their country, gave their
lives for the fight, and we honor them, we honor
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their families, and we pray for them and their souls.
I just wanted to note this is yes, there the
Trump administration is showing incredible ability militarily to attack our
enemy Iran and it's military. But there are losses. We
are losing people in this fight too. We always have
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to be mindful of that that every day that this
conflict continues, there are Iranians, civilians who are losing their
lives or in the line of fire, and also our
own service members. So this is even at the level
this war is being fought, there are costs. It's not
to say that the costs aren't something that the American
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people are willing to bear based upon the threat of Iran,
but their costs, and we should be always keeping that
in our mind, and of course and keep the families
of those lost in our prayers. All Right, we have
a few guests coming up here. Steve Hilton will be
up next. Talk to him about California. He's running for
governor there. And Clay keeps pointing out to me that
(34:23):
the Democrats may well end up electing Swallwell Wawell of
Fang Fang fame.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
There are Democrats I disagree with, and they're Democrats that
I'm like, I don't disagree with this guy, but I
can see why he has appeal. Eric Swalwell is a
moron who is incapable of basic coherent thought to your point, Buck,
and not even attractive. Chinese spy honeypotted him. He lives
(34:57):
in Washington, d C. Evidence is he has an apartment
that he claims in some donor's house. He doesn't even
have a California residence right now. So we've got a
huge audience in California. I am fired up about this.
The idea of Eric Swollwell even making the final two
is an crazy to Californians everywhere.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
That's where we are, Dave and Wilmington, North Carolina. Let's
get you in, Dave. What's up? Rush?
Speaker 5 (35:22):
You're making rush, proud old Russian listener, So I thank
you pre nine to eleven. I was an adult all
for My kids were born pre nine to eleven, but
they weren't old enough to ever remember this country the
freedoms we had pre nine to eleven.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
So seeing what happened nine to eleven and seeing the
tree ins and dollars this country has had to spend
to defend ourselves from the radical Islam culture, and then
to see the Democrats continually inviting these people in and
defending them. Now the defrauding our country. We still spending
treands of dollars to protect ourselves from these people.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
It's just a very discouraging situation for those of us
who would grew up in a country that was so
free that we could walk up to the door and
say by to Grandma when she was getting on the plane.
And now we go through all this crap, and we
got to go even more.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Because we just keep letting them fester in the Middle
East till they can come up with some scheme to kill.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
American Dave, thank you for calling in.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
As I always say, radical Islam is the reason why
you're getting padded down by the TSA, why you have
to arrive two hours early for your flight. Radical Islam
has cost the United States in just our security state,
our security apparatus, trillions of dollars post nine to eleven.
And that's not even including all the attacks they actually
pull off successfully
Welcome in m clay Travis Buck Sexton show, both from Florida,
although opposite ends of the state. I am on the Panhandle.
Buck is down in South Florida. As spring Break twenty
twenty six arrives in the Travis household, pray for me.
I'm gonna have a bunch of eighteen year olds, my
(00:22):
son and several of his friends down for spring break
with Dad as chaperone.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
So we will see how that goes. But that is officially.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Underway, and we've got a lot to update you on
yet another early morning press conference from Secretary of War
Pete Hegsath, laying out all the particulars that is dominating
discussion as we begin the day here on the Friday
edition of the program, We're going to go out to
(00:51):
California at the top of the next hour, just to
give you a heads up. The primary in California is
getting closer and closer. Steve Hilton Republican can that they're
the top two advance regardless of party. We will discuss
all of that and what is a free for all
absolute Donnybrook that has broken out in California. What is
the latest there on who might be the next governor
(01:13):
to replace Gavin Newsom. But Buck, I think we began
where we basically ended yesterday's show with the news coming
of it officially, as we told you it was likely
to be having been yet another terror attack. Two different
terror attacks happening yesterday. One in Virginia at Old Dominion.
(01:34):
We'll get into some of the details there. Brave Rozzi
students were able to disarm and kill the would be
terrorists with their bare hands, and that is pretty remarkable.
We will talk about it. One loss of life there.
We will certainly honor that loss of life as well.
(01:57):
In West Bloomfield, Michigan, outside of Detroit, a clear attempted
terror attack, A good guy with a gun ended it
and took and killed the life of the would be terrorist.
But coming on the heels of Austin, Texas wear a
guy in an Iran shirt and a pro Islam sweatshirt
(02:19):
on top of that killed two innocent people and wounded
several others. You then have the situation in New York
City where two would be Isis sympathizers tried to throw
IEDs outside of Gracie Mansion in New York City, which
fortunately did not go off. And now we are sitting
here with Austin, Texas, New York City, Old Dominion University
(02:44):
in Virginia, and just outside of Detroit in Michigan, four
different Muslim fundamentalist motivated terror attacks in the space of
about two weeks. It feels unlikely to me that this
is the end of it. Buck, and you joined the
CIA some time ago, specifically to help catch the bad
(03:06):
guys after nine to eleven, so you are particularly well
versed in this. What is your reaction now that we
have what we suggested was likely to be the case,
but now have complete confirmation that all four of these
attacks have the same motive in place as the war
in Iran continues, What would CIA analyst Buck Sexton be
doing this morning if he was in Langley. Well, I
(03:29):
think we can count on the New York Times, The
Washington Post, CNN and others to remind us that while
all the terrorist attacks that are actually happening are Islamic radicals,
the real threat of terrorism in this country remains white supremacy.
That's the real thing, which is was the focal point
(03:49):
of Biden's presidency was arguing the biggest danger that we
all face for those of you who have forgotten. He
constantly gave us multi years of that argument.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And I just think that we're one Islamic Ji hottist
or I guess that's kind of repetitive, because all jihatis
are Islamic. But one ji hottest terror attack away from
some guy instead of yelling a lah walk bar before
he hits the plunger on the suicide vest, maybe he'll
scream out the real terrorist threat is white supremacy kaboom.
(04:22):
I just wonder at what point the Democrats will have
to reassess reassess the big white supremacist threat. By the way,
Perkapita is also something that tends to challenge the left
and Democrats tremendously. They have no understanding of this whatsoever.
They compare the overall threat of Islamic terrorism and the
overall threat of white supremacist terrorism in this country.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
They also always leave out there.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Are five million, six million Muslims in the country, maybe
seven million, something like that. I didn't even know how
many white people there are, one hundred and fifty million,
one hundred and eighty million.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
So the fact that you're even having a conversation about
where is the real threat of And I just want
to be very clear, there are Jihadis who are white.
It's actually not about race at all. But the Democrats
don't understand that. They have no you know, remember the
guy who's captured, who's fighting for the Taliban, like that
can happen too.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Islam is an ideology. It's not a skin color. It's
not a race.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
They always try to conflate those things because they know
that if they can make it about racism, well that
everyone's oh my gosh, it's not racism, it's about an ideology.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Okay, No one's sitting here saying, you.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Know what the real threat of tourism is right now,
all the Buddhists in America, Oh my gosh, I'm so
scared of them. Has nothing to do with skin color,
has to do with ideology. And this is exactly what
you would expect after Remember, it's not just American strikes
on Iran, it is American Israeli strikes, American slash and
Israeli strikes on Iran. And so the fact that Israel
(05:48):
is just blowing up Irani and stuff left and right too,
that really sets off the Jihati community. And looking at
the Iran situation, Klay today. I know Hexath talked about it.
We have some more.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Well, you know what here, let's have here's secretary war.
This cut one.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
The not so Supreme leader, he says of mouch taba
little mo as Clay calls him, this is cut one play.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Iran's leadership is in no better shape. Desperate and hiding.
They've gone underground, cowering. That's what rats do we know?
The new so called not so supreme leader is wounded
and likely disfigured. He put out of statement yesterday a
weak one actually, but there was no voice and there
was no video.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
It was a written statement.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
He called for unity. Apparently killing tens of thousands of
protesters is his kind of unity. Iran has plenty of
cameras and plenty of voice recorders. Why a written statement,
I think.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You know why.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
His father dead, he's scared, he's injured, he's on the run,
and he lacks legitimacy.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's a mess for them.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Who's in charge Iran may not even know.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Now this is on the good side of things, Clay,
that we're just there's no military CounterPunch from Iran whatsoever.
The concerning side of this or the side of this.
I think everybody needs to understand as well. The Iranians,
he said this, the Iranian leadership. Now they're fully hiding
under in bunkers and they're not meeting in any kind
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of consolidated place, and they're just gonna ride this thing out,
and there's no opposition taking to the streets. So the
regime is not changing, everyone. The regime is not changing.
We just have a defanged, temporarily Iranian regime. Maybe they'll
have a different approach to the next round of negotiations,
but I do not see regime change happening here now.
(07:38):
Some of you will be, I think, happy with that
because it also means no US boots on the ground
and a limited mission. Clay I read this morning getting
ready for the show a couple of different angles that
I thought were super interesting that we could dive into
a little bit later in the program. One David Boyce,
who is probably the foremost trial attorney, who is a
(08:00):
Democrat in terms of intellectual theft and success in the country,
whatever you think about his politics, wrote a great editorial
in The Wall Street Journal saying Democrats need to stop
reflexively being opposed to President Trump. That it's actually a
really good thing that we went into Iran and he
lays out a very strong argument. I thought, and and
(08:23):
I was impressed that he did it.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Did you did you see this?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Because I do think it's a little bit of an interesting,
interesting shift.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You don't think you have more respect for Boys because
of his lawyer success than I tend to give in
that he served as a board member and council for Thearanos,
the fraudulent blood testing company, and basically.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Threatened to uh.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Go after Wall Street Journal reporters who were trying to
unearth that Theronos was a giant fraud. So he got
taken in by that whole thing, I guess.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
But everybody did it seems if you go read that book,
Bad Blood, it's one of the best books that's been
written in a long.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
But remember, Boys is like the bad guy who shows
up in the Wall Street Journal's offices and is like,
everything we've done, everything their nose did is on the
up and up. We're going to go after you. So
I'm just saying fair being very nice about this guy.
That's a pretty sketchy sy I.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Would want the most zealous advocate possible, and I think
that's what he sees his role.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
As his lawyer.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Clay claim, Look, you could represent the head of the mob,
and Clay's like, hey, everybody needs counsel, Hey.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Everybody needs Hey. In fact, there's news that's just gone out.
I put my money where my mouth is. Uh, Laura
and I have made a big donation to Vanderbilt Law
School that is predicated on the idea that every different perspective,
because a lot of conservative perspectives are ridiculed in the
law right now, should be taught in law school, and
(09:50):
that lots of people who are military should have the
ability when they finished their service to go get a
law degree. So we're putting our money where our mouth
is on this so that we have zealous advocacy. So
putting aside that argument, here's something I think that is
interesting that is starting to be floated as well, the
idea that little Mo the that is the son of
(10:13):
obviously the Ayatola who was killed, that actually we are
negotiating with different elements of Iran that are more moderate.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I'm curious if you would buy this.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
And inside of Iran they are using this guy who
may not even be able to speak based on the
significant injuries that have occurred to him, and Hegseth laid
out they didn't put a video, they didn't even have
audio of his statement that they released yesterday that they
are using him as a figurehead to make it seem
like the revolutionary elements of Iran are still in a
(10:49):
position of strength, but that in reality there are backchannel
negotiations going on and we might be setting up some
form of relationship there. Do you buy it to see?
I analyst bock by this guy's son being the figurehead
who's incapable of communication, and very few people know it,
and there are other individuals who now have risen to
(11:10):
power that are interacting with the US. That is one
theory that is out there. I hope that's true.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I would bet a large sum of money that ends
up not being the case. I think unfortunately, we've done
everything that can be done from the sky, and there's
a hard red line on boots on the ground, and
I think it's the right red line, to be clear.
I agree with that red line, and there's a limit
to what you can do from the air. And the
Iranians have known now they got sucker punched a bit
(11:37):
on this. They were not obviously putting all their leadership together.
They didn't expect that we would hit them when we did.
They didn't expect to get hit in daylight. They didn't
expect all of this, so that was pretty incredible. And
they didn't know that we knew so much about where
they would be. That all said, though, these are the
limitations of what you can do when you don't control
(11:59):
the ground, and we don't control the ground, and the
IRGC is still the security apparatus in that country, and
nobody wants to be the first one to poke their
head out their door be like, you know, maybe we
could do something different here, because your head's not going
to stay on your shoulders.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
That's the concern.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
The other suggestion that I have seen is that we
should take the island with boots on the ground, delta
force style where they actually produce all the oil, and
just take control of their ability to produce oil. Because
this is kind of crazy. Iran is continuing to produce
oil and you're talking about grabbing carg Island. I mean that, yeah,
(12:37):
some pretty next level stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
That is.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I was doing all my reading buck I was trying
to prepare myself, like what are the different a goods.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
You're going deep onto this one. Well, I'm fascinated by it.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I don't have the background of knowledge that you do,
so I'm trying to read as much as I can.
And there's an idea out there that Israeli and US
special forces could seize the island of oil production and
basically end any ability of Iran to have control over
the ingress or egress of oil. Not dissimilar in some
(13:09):
ways to what we did with Venezuela, but just take
control of this island and say, hey, we now are
the captain of the Iranian oil ship and we determine everything.
Because it's kind of crazy to me, buck I didn't
realize Iran has continued to refine and be shipping oil
even as we have been attacking them. I think that
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would surprise a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I mean, carg Island is essentially where all of the
processing of oil. Remember there's you'll hear these things, and
I know that some of you are listening to this
or like, I've been an oil man for forty years, buckleet,
you know a lot more than me. And sorry, I'm
just assuming the oil men are in Texas has Pardon me,
but I know there's other places, but you know there's
some of you know, this stuff backwards and forwards, but
(13:53):
you hear things like heavy crude and sweet crude and all.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
This different stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
This it has to be refined for its usable in
the marketplace. Right, It's not just like it pumps out
of the ground that it goes right into a car.
And ninety percent of car of Iranian oil is processed
at Carg Island. And you're talking about almost a billion
barrels of oil a year there, right, So if you
are you don't have to stop the oil for being
(14:18):
pumped out of the ground, nor do you have to
touch the oil infrastructure that does that, which would be
a very very bad idea to have essentially a total
choke point for Iranian oil exports because they can't refine it,
they ain't selling it. This is the same way, one
hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
And this is why I think, in addition to not
wanting to give away strategic operational goals, this is why
boots on the ground doesn't necessarily mean tens of thousands
of troops. It could mean not only on this Carg Island,
but also on some of the nuclear mountainous terrain that
you might have to go into. It could mean elite
(14:55):
commando style raids with boots on the ground that is
very different than and what we saw, for instance, in Iraq.
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I want to hit this talkback fast because it ties
into our next news story we're going to be discussing here,
and it's from Charlie in Greenwich Village of really fun.
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So I want to give a shout out to the
Rozy students and their instructor.
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They did a great job.
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Take care, Hey, Charlie, Charlie, God blessed. Thanks for listening
to us behind liberal lines there at NYC. Let me
say this, Clay so he's referring to this mass shooter
at Old Dominion. Also a Jie hottist a convicted terror
supporter got let out early.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Good lord.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
He walked into a classroom an Old Dominion said is
this ROTC? And when someone said yes, he just pulled
out a gun and started shooting. One of the ROTC
students had a blade and ended this guy right there,
just took him out. Now, I mean, first of all,
Clay pointed this out. Obviously he was targeting ROTC because
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he thinks that he's going after like our military in
a way, which you know, this is a terrorist attack
in a classroom. But beyond that, this is a guy
who underestimated who he was dealing with.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
He picked the wrong dude staff around with, I think
in basic parlance, and we should when we come back,
honor because one loss of life. I believe he was
a major in charge of ROTC in Old Dominion lost
his life and we should make sure that we honor him.
But I think it speaks to the bravery of these
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young men and women I presume who fair handed apprehended
this guy and killed him.
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Friday edition
of the program. We were just talking about the terror
attack at Old Dominion University in Virginia, and we mentioned
that the Razi students apprehended, killed, and disarmed this individual
with their bare hands during the attack. Unfortunately, one life
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was lost and I want to make sure that I
read this correctly, the victim of the terror attack at
Old Dominion. This is according to Greg Price, who does
good work on social media has been identified as Lieutenant
Colonel Brandon Shaw, who was a professor of military science
and the leader of the university's RATZI program. He was
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a veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom, Operation Enduring Freedom, and
Atlantic Resolve. His awards included two Bronze Stars, Senior Army
Aviator Badge, Combat Action Badge, Parachutist Badge, Arissault Badge, Defense
Meritorious Service Medal, Meritorious Service Medal, Air Medal with Valor,
Joint Service Commendation Medal, Army Commendation Medal, and the Joint
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Service Achievement Medal. He died on the campus in this attack.
His students disarmed and killed the attacker. But we want
to make sure that we honor the individuals who are
victims of these different terror attacks. Again, Lieutenant Colonel Brandon Shaw,
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and if there are people out there listening to us
right now that know anything about him or served with him,
it'd be great to hear some of your talkbacks. But Buck,
this is we were as we went to break just
talking about this. I think one of the stories here
is there is so much innate goodness in America. The
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attack would be attack on the synagogue in northern Michigan
or just north of Detroit and Oakland County, still southeastern Michigan,
but just worth of Detroit. These guys were ready for
it and they killed the attacker. This was I think
the number was over one hundred kids in a Jewish
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preschool that were there that could have been victims but
for the security being there. The only person who died
on that day yesterday was the would be attacker in
basically his vehicle that he drove in intending to blow
up and kill as many people as possible. Again, everybody
needs to say stay hyper vigilant given what's going on
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right now. But I think it's a testament to the
bravery of so many people across America that we have
now had four would be terror attacks, four actual terror attacks,
and I believe there have only been three victims. Every
loss of life is awful. I believe two people lost
their lives in Austin, innocent people at a bar when
a guy started shooting. And now this Razi leader on
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Old Dominions campus, but no deaths, and these guys were apprehended.
In New York City, the brave police officer who we
talked about who jumped over the barricade and went and
tackled them immediately and got them arrested. The brave security
officials at the synagogue who killed this would be a terrorist,
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I mean to have. I think it's five different terrorists,
if I'm not mistaken, who have attempted to take as
many lives as possible, and for them to only get
three lives, and for the bravery of responders to immediately
take them out, I think as a testament to security
officials and also just the bravery of first responders and
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everybody out there in America right now. But unfortunately, I
know you're looking and thinking about this quite a lot
based on your background. It seems unlikely this is going
to be the end, and so more are coming.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
No, it's not the end, and they tend to hold
grudges in the jeeh hottiest world, So it's not like
even if the air campaign stops tomorrow, which I don't
think it will, they would say, Okay, we're gonna leave
things alone now and move on with our lives. I
would just second what you said, Clay about the security
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at that synagogue in Michigan. Think about this probably saved
I don't know, dozens of lives by being armed, present
and ready to go. I understand the bomb didn't go
off that this guy had in his car, but he
was prepared for that possibility, and he also had I believe,
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a rifle and was ready to start shooting people. And
if you're in a synagogue and you don't have armed security,
even if you rush a shooter like this, a lot
of lives are gonna be lost in that process. And instead,
no innocent life was lost in the process. It's just
a reminder the good guy with a gun thing that
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Democrats still sneer at. They don't really ever want to
look at what actually works, what actually keeps people safe,
you know.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I mean, I gotta tell you.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Even here in Miami, I'll see sometimes like a venue
or a place and they'll say, you know, no weapons allowed,
And I just want to be like, you know, you're
you're just disarming the good guys. Yeah, you're just saying
in a state where we have very pro to a laws, thankfully,
Florida is great on this. New York is New York
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City is preposterous. New York City is just one big
violation of the Second Amendment. But you look at Florida
Florida's great, but you go private venues, you know, for
concerts things like that, and they're you know, they'll have
no weapons signs, and you know, now you got to think, Okay,
I'm gonna be in I'm gonna be in violation of
law if I care.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
What is the point of that.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
If someone, whether they're a gang member or a terrorist,
wants to hurt people, they're carrying the gun no matter what.
You know, I just I don't know how many times
we have to go through this. You know, Virginia is
currently looking at a at legislation to create some kind
of a ban. You know, they're going to have some
specific Senate but essentially an assault rifle man in Virginia. Yeah,
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after Moderate Spamberger fooled enough Virginia soccer moms that she
was able to and you know, dads, she was able
to win the election. And you sit here and you
just go when will the lesson be learned? When do
they figure out that they're little rules and they're little
you know, they're they're pro clutching over people who like
to go shooting on the weekends. We're law abiding Second
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Amendment people. They're wrong, They're just wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
On this issue.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
If we had listened to them and had not had
armed security at the synagogue, you know, god knows what
would have happened there.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, and again, you're really just notifying the bad guys
where they should go. When you say gun free zones,
you're just telling them, hey, this is an opportunity to
go after people who are predominantly not gonna be able
to defend themselves.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
And this is why.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Look, I hope what happened at the synagogue. I hope
it's a lesson to every school and every religious institution
in America. I would prefer that there be armed security everywhere.
My kids go to schools with a lot of armed security.
I want everybody's kids going to schools with a lot
of armed security, public school and private school. By the way,
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in Tennessee where I am, I feel very fortunate when
I drop my kids off and I see the security
guard strapped, and I think most of you out there
listening right now feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Here's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
It also is important, for instance, one of my kids
in the elementary school right now, when you have an
officer in the school, young kids learn that they can
trust police and that police are there to help them,
which they might not hear at home. And so having
a school resource officer who is there, who is armed,
who is there to make sure that the kids are
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all safe. It's an important lesson. I hope that they
never have to use their weapon ever, but it's an
important lesson for young kids to begin to understand that
police are not bad guys. And unfortunately, there's lots of
people out there who will try to teach them that
police are bad guys.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
You know, the estimates are that it would be maybe
ten billion dollars to have armed security at least available
in every school in America. Ten billion dollars. I mean
that's like around you how many fakes? Yes, how many
fake Somali daycares? Is that not that many?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I mean how many fake autism centers in California, which
we're going to talk about that later, by the way,
just people ripping off the system with fraud. Yes, ten
billion dollars to keep school safe. And people say, oh,
but sometimes they'll shoot the security guard.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Okay, nothing is perfect everyone, but you know, you would rather.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Them have to shoot the security guard first than immediately
go to kids and teachers.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
You know, it's really imperfect making me wait five days. Well,
if you ever conceal care, you can actually, but you know,
making people wait five days and I'm still waiting for
my I can still carry permit to arrive. Actually I've
already applied for it before I can go get my
like ninth gun or whatever that's keeping people make me
wait five days before I can get my latest range
my latest range gun. You know, like this is idiot rules.
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These are idiotic rules, and people still push them.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
So the guns are scary. They go bang bang, is loud,
loud and scary.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
They know nothing, you know what I've also been seeing,
and I want to encourage this. Carol Markowitz is a
friend of the program. She's part of the Clay and
Buck podcast network. She's learned how to use a gun.
My wife now goes to the range once a week.
Laura's kind of nasty with a pistol.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
She is.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
She is very talented with a weapon.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
But I've been amazed at how many women I now
meet who you wouldn't expect to be very adept at weaponry,
that are aware that danger is out there and they
want to be able to take care of their families,
and I think the number of guns has skyrocketed.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
This is the real impact of trying to regulate guns
is every time democrats try to regulate guns, it's the
greatest advertisement for guns that has ever existed. Everybody out
there understands what I'm talking about. As soon as there
is the hint of gun regulation, millions more guns get
sold almost overnight, and the amount of guns in good
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hands has skyrocketed. I would say, since you've seen it, Bucks,
since since twenty twenty, where people just thought that they
were never going to be in danger and they've seen
crime and they say, I'm not risking or relying on
somebody getting to me. I'm going to take care of
my family.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
The same way that Mayor Mamdani is currently Florida real
Estate Salesman of the Year. Barack Obama was actually National
Firearms Salesmen of like the decade because every time they
would try to browbeat us and shout at us and
say give.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Up all your ar fifteens and give up all you
people would just go out and get more. Yes. No,
I mean, well I'm gonna get grandfathered in. Now. That's
totally right.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
And by the way, if you want to go to data,
We've got more guns in America than we ever have.
Crime is overall going down substantially the lowest in one
hundred and twenty five years when it comes to murder
based on the data from twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
And you know this, I.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Think it should be screamed from the heavens more loudly.
If you have a legal permit to own a gun,
your rate of criminal violation is infinitely lower than the
average American is. Gun owners are the most law abiding
community on the planet. And again that's a data set
that isn't very well known, but I think is consequential
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in signal you're referring to as CCW holders have fewer
infractions of law per capita than law enforcement, which is
straight that's even even right, I mean, because you're talking
about it is evidence that should be within the public
discourse on a level that it is not. We'll take
some of your calls, we'll take some of your talkbacks,
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and we'll play a couple more cuts about everything that's
going on here on the Friday edition of the program.
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Back and Team to Clay and update you on something
as we're talking about the Iran situation. Confirm now a
tragedy in Iraq. Six service members are dead after a
US Air Force refueler CAC one thir five tanker was
involved in an accident with another KC one thir five.
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So this is Look, anytime you're talking about milit aviation,
especially military aviation doing mid air refuels, there is danger.
And we had six, six brave service members who gave
their lives, gave their lives for their country, gave their
lives for the fight, and we honor them, we honor
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their families, and we pray for them and their souls.
I just wanted to note this is yes, there the
Trump administration is showing incredible ability militarily to attack our
enemy Iran and it's military. But there are losses. We
are losing people in this fight too. We always have
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to be mindful of that that every day that this
conflict continues, there are Iranians, civilians who are losing their
lives or in the line of fire, and also our
own service members. So this is even at the level
this war is being fought, there are costs. It's not
to say that the costs aren't something that the American
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people are willing to bear based upon the threat of Iran,
but their costs, and we should be always keeping that
in our mind, and of course and keep the families
of those lost in our prayers. All Right, we have
a few guests coming up here. Steve Hilton will be
up next. Talk to him about California. He's running for
governor there. And Clay keeps pointing out to me that
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the Democrats may well end up electing Swallwell Wawell of
Fang Fang fame.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
There are Democrats I disagree with, and they're Democrats that
I'm like, I don't disagree with this guy, but I
can see why he has appeal. Eric Swalwell is a
moron who is incapable of basic coherent thought to your point, Buck,
and not even attractive. Chinese spy honeypotted him. He lives
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in Washington, d C. Evidence is he has an apartment
that he claims in some donor's house. He doesn't even
have a California residence right now. So we've got a
huge audience in California. I am fired up about this.
The idea of Eric Swollwell even making the final two
is an crazy to Californians everywhere.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
That's where we are, Dave and Wilmington, North Carolina. Let's
get you in, Dave. What's up? Rush?
Speaker 5 (35:22):
You're making rush, proud old Russian listener, So I thank
you pre nine to eleven. I was an adult all
for My kids were born pre nine to eleven, but
they weren't old enough to ever remember this country the
freedoms we had pre nine to eleven.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
So seeing what happened nine to eleven and seeing the
tree ins and dollars this country has had to spend
to defend ourselves from the radical Islam culture, and then
to see the Democrats continually inviting these people in and
defending them. Now the defrauding our country. We still spending
treands of dollars to protect ourselves from these people.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
It's just a very discouraging situation for those of us
who would grew up in a country that was so
free that we could walk up to the door and
say by to Grandma when she was getting on the plane.
And now we go through all this crap, and we
got to go even more.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Because we just keep letting them fester in the Middle
East till they can come up with some scheme to kill.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
American Dave, thank you for calling in.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
As I always say, radical Islam is the reason why
you're getting padded down by the TSA, why you have
to arrive two hours early for your flight. Radical Islam
has cost the United States in just our security state,
our security apparatus, trillions of dollars post nine to eleven.
And that's not even including all the attacks they actually
pull off successfully
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