August 10, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show focuses heavily on the escalating controversy surrounding transgender participation in women’s sports, particularly a developing situation involving the WNBA. Clay and Buck discuss former NBA players Enes Kanter Freedom and Royce White declaring themselves eligible for the WNBA Draft, arguing that the move exposes what they view as contradictions in gender identity policies. The hosts debate the legal, cultural, and financial implications for the WNBA, including questions surrounding eligibility standards, women’s athletics, gender identity, discrimination claims, and potential antitrust concerns. They also examine the league’s reported efforts to address the issue and discuss how increasing player salaries in women’s professional basketball could create new incentives and challenges.
The conversation expands into a broader debate over women’s sports, transgender athletes, biological sex, gender ideology, youth gender transition, and Title IX-related cultural issues. Clay and Buck argue that organizations must establish clear definitions regarding participation in women’s athletic competitions and compare the WNBA’s situation to policies adopted in other sports organizations. They further discuss the impact of these debates on public opinion, youth sports, female athletic opportunities, and the future of women’s professional leagues.
Another major topic involves an incident featuring WNBA player Sophie Cunningham, who was involved in a controversial on-court altercation that generated significant social media attention. The hosts criticize media coverage of the incident, discuss accusations involving race and privilege that emerged afterward, and examine how sports journalism and modern media narratives shape public reaction to high-profile sports controversies.
The show also previews several major political developments and upcoming guests. Clay highlights the upcoming Wisconsin primary election, discussing Democratic candidate Francesca Hong and previous controversies surrounding her public comments. The hosts also tease an upcoming interview with Senator Ron Johnson, who is reportedly reviewing information connected to Dr. Anthony Fauci, as well as a conversation with Florida Congressman Byron Donalds, whom Clay predicts could become Florida’s next governor.
Hour 1 additionally features multiple listener calls responding to the debate over transgender athletes, women’s sports, and broader cultural issues. Callers discuss the future of the WNBA, economic realities in professional sports, LGBTQ politics, and the growing divide between the transgender movement and some members of the gay and lesbian community. Clay and Buck explore whether the modern LGBTQ coalition is experiencing internal tensions over issues such as gender identity, youth medical treatments, and the definition of sex and gender.
The hour concludes with a wider discussion about American culture, political ideology, and what the hosts see as larger social trends influencing debates over sports, education, public institutions, and identity politics. Throughout Hour 1, the dominant themes are WNBA controversy, transgender athletes, women’s sports, gender identity politics, Wisconsin politics, Francesca Hong, Senator Ron Johnson, Anthony Fauci, Byron Donalds, LGBTQ issues, and cultural debates shaping the 2026 political landscape.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Monday at Ession, Play and Buck. We hope
all of you had fantastic weekends. We are here to
help bring more sanity and fun to your life. Well
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(00:42):
are going to continue to reach out to everyone everywhere
so that so that you can find us across the
entire media landscape. All right, we got a bunch of
stories that we are tracking. Tomorrow is the primary in
Wisconsin crazy pro canceling of Thanksgiving. Democrat Francesca Hong is
(01:06):
favored to win. She now, of course, is saying that
Thanksgiving is her favorite holiday, so she's very committed to
her crazy perspectives. We've got AOC saying, hey, maybe we
were just a little bit crazy haha, laughs it off.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
We will talk about that. We got two awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Guests, Ron Johnson, Senator from Wisconsin, who is now in
possession of doctor Anthony Fauci's cell phone and he is
beginning to uncover all sorts of interesting information there. We
also have the man that I believe will be the
next governor of Florida. I think Buck would sign off
(01:45):
on that as well. As early voting has started in
Florida Byron Donald's, current congressman from South Florida, he will
join us as well. And potentially we will be joined
by Enis Canton Freedom, who have made a lot of
noise after we went off the air yesterday as he
(02:06):
former first round NBA draft pick has declared for the
WNBA alongside of Royce White, another former NBA draft pick.
And this story just keeps getting crazier and crazier.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
First of all, how is your weekend? Did everything go well?
Everything smooth in the South Florida world? Well, thank you Klays,
very neighborly of you. Yes, it was a great weekend
down here in South Florida. That's very quiet in Miami
this time of year. A lot of people are gone.
I'm here because I love Miami all the time. I'm
not a fair weather Miami fan, but no, it's been great.
(02:42):
I will say I enjoyed watching this morning. You know,
the read in for the show.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Sometimes I can't believe because this is what I would
do anyway, right, isn't that that I would be reading
all the news all morning even if we weren't doing
this show. I know you feel the same way, although
you read an old newspaper because you know, old man
going to old man. What the AOC interview? I watched
the whole thing and for her to refer to woke
one point zero Clay, I find this fascinting. There's a
(03:09):
real glimpse here into what the Democrats are gonna try
going forward, and I think that's absolute we're talking about.
But on the WNBA thing that this is really interesting
because I keep you keep thinking that the the apparatus
of trans is.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Gonna find some you know, some off ramp.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Or they're no, no, there's really no willingness at all,
it seems right now. I guess their plan, Clay, with
inis Kant freedom and we should get into some of
these details, is to just ignore him and say, well,
no one in the league wants to draft him. Is
that is that what they're going to do.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Like, what do you?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Let's look at the next play here, because they have
absolutely not been willing to say, like they do in tennis,
we're gonna check to see if they're actually a chick
and only chicks should play against chicks.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
They won't do that.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Okay, So there's so many things going on here, Buck.
First of all, I feel like we could do the
whole show on the WNBA going over the woke waterfall
on Saturday Afternoon. Sophie Cunningham, who came out a few
weeks ago and said men should not be able to
play in women's sports not a particularly earth shattering take.
(04:22):
And she's pretty and white and blonde, which does factor
into the whole equation.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Here go ahead.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
She was on a breakaway layup a black woman with
a blonde wig named de Jona, named after mustard. Evidently
maybe mustard and mayonnaise combo condiment inspiration. She wiped out
Sophie Cunningham in a violent, frankly foul flagrant too.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
She was kicked out of the game. I saw the clip.
It looked like a WWE clothes line. It did not
look like a basketball foul. It was I'm going to,
you know, basically like do a flying arm bar.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
At your neck and you can watch.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
The play went megaviral over the weekend, and she then
after getting kicked out, Buck immediately went into the locker room.
She was kicked out after they reviewed the play. I
don't think it was remotely controversial that she was kicked out,
and she said white privilege in a tweet complaining about
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the fact that she had been kicked out. All of
the left wing sports media lined up and you know,
basically just made themselves even more ridiculous than they already were.
I grabbed this Buck because Sports Illustrated, which if you're
around my age, your age, a lot of people who
are older than us, if you're a sports fan, going
(05:50):
to the mailbox to get the weekly Sports Illustrated and
see who was going to be on the cover, and
see what articles were going to be in the magazine.
Did they write about athletes that you liked? Did they
write about teams that you liked? I mean, it was
a super exciting experience. I couldn't wait as a young
kid run down how a Sports Illustrated subscription and oh
(06:11):
my goodness, look at this, like this guy's going to
be on the cover. Saved magazines, that's how popular it was.
Sometimes took covers, put them on the wall. All of
you remember this, to say nothing of how much of
a moment the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue was back before
the Internet existed. Their headline on this buck was Sophie
Cunningham got a bitter taste of karma after drawing flagrant
(06:36):
foul in fever Skygame Karma. They later changed the headline
bitter taste of karma. Of course, at least in the
way that I read it and most people read it,
was she came out against men and women's sports, and
then she got wrecked by a black player who tweeted
white privilege. Imagine it's easy to do, but Buck, if
(07:00):
Sophie Cunningham, after she had gotten kicked out of a
game for a foul, had tweeted black privilege, the world
would have come undone. She probably would have been suspended
for the rest of the season. Every person on the
planet in woke left wing sports media would have lost
their minds.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So that was Saturday Friday.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Friday, two different former first round NBA draft picks declared
themselves eligible for the WNBA draft Enus Cancer Freedom and
Royce White, both of whom again were first round NBA
draft picks, both of whom are no longer in the NBA.
(07:39):
And on Saturday morning, I woke up to the news
that the WNBA had scheduled this week an emergency meeting
to try and define what a woman is because the
players and coaches and some teams that have argued you
are a woman if you decide to identify as a woman,
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if that is going to be the standard, then men
are eligible. And so Buck you asked the question, which
I think is a good one. I think the phrase
that I have used is I think Enis Kanter with
this move has checkmated the WNBA because they really only
have three options, as I see it from a legal perspective.
(08:21):
One they say, well, he is not actually a woman.
But if they say that, then they are acknowledging that
they're able to determine who a woman is, which is
a mess for them. Second option is they can allow
men to play in the WNBA, which effectively destroys the
(08:44):
entire WNBA because these women now make a lot of
money and so you would have a lot of people
come in. Third option is they all agree that they
will not draft him. But the problem with that is
that's an antitrust violation, and he would be able to
sue and argue that they had colluded against him, which
(09:06):
would open the league up, wait to a massive amount
of damages.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Excuse me, lawyer, excuse me, sir.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Couldn't he also sue for discrimination as probably probably could
he sue the league for discriminating against him on the
basis of perceived gender.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yes, you know, I think he could based on the
fact that they haven't. But the usually you can, and
this gets into the legal weeds. You can treble, you
can triple sometimes anti trust damages depending on how you sue.
And so this in and of itself is a recipe
for disaster that the league has put itself in based
(09:46):
on the fact that he has now officially declared for
the w NBA draft. And so, Buck, I mean, I
just think overall that this is a unmitigated disaster for
the WNBA. Rush would have loved this story, Buck, because
nobody liked pushing absurdity to its logical conclusion more than
(10:08):
Rush did. And they do not have any ability here,
in my opinion, to get out of this now this
is a huge mess and they have created it entirely
of their own volition.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
What they should do, what the commissioner should do.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Is basically buck the same thing that the WTA did,
which is say men aren't allowed to compete in this sport.
It is the WNBA for a reason. Women is defined
as being women who are born as women at birth.
And what's funny is when they founded the WNBA thirty
years ago, Buck, I don't think they could have ever
(10:48):
conceived that this would be as crazy as it is today,
that they would ever be in a position where you
could argue that using the term woman is not just
scriptive enough when it comes to eligibility standards. But when
you have players and coaches coming out and saying a
man who identifies as a woman is just as much
(11:10):
of a woman as all of you out there listening
right now that have been women your whole lives. This
is where identity politics broken brains. This is where ultimately
it all leads. And I just think that we are
in a spot where the WNBA has gone over the
(11:31):
woke waterfall and they don't have good options now.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Okay, but so you laid out the options, I agree
with you what the options are. Which option do you
think the WNBA is going to pick? Because you know
there are some true believers. It's very tough to know
on this issue. Who just doesn't want to get screened
at by the lunatics, because there's a lot of that,
and so.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
They either cower or they go along.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Who just wants to be a part of like the
cool kid team on the left, doesn't really believe this,
but they agree with them on everything else. And then
who are that guy who weighs two thirty and is six'
four and has, like you, know a, beard is actually a.
Chick it's tough to know who falls into what category.
Here but do you think there's any chance that they
(12:19):
Actually Lady in Has canter freedom? Play that's really Where i'm.
Going do you think that they just, say, yeah that's
how committed we, are will let him. Play is there
any chance in your mind they actually do?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
That it is.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
CRAZY i don't. KNOW i Don't because they let them
compete in The. Olympics we've we've seen the, powerlifter we've seen. This,
yeah they've left all of the rational basis under which
all of you out there with basic common sense would have,
behaved and SO i think there is a world where
they try to redefine women based on estrogen levels in, blood.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
To try to argue that you have to be a.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Woman in order to classify as a, woman you have
to have AND i don't even know what the biology, is, Right,
basically you have to be pumping your body full of
FEMININE i.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Can tell you that that does nothing that makes you
if you're a man who does, that it just makes
you basically like grow breasts and makes you really. Depressed
it doesn't actually make you a, woman and it doesn't
destroy the underlying musculature and bone structure and bone. Debt
so there's a thing you're not actually even going to be.
Changing even if you did, that you wouldn't be dealing
(13:34):
with the. Problem you see, WHAT.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I, Agree But i'm trying to think like a crazy
person as these people. Are the other, thing AND i
think this is actually even more, alarming is buck they
go back and they, say in order to qualify as a,
woman you have to begin estrogen treatment before, puberty which
actually encourages this diabolical treatment of young. Children and what
(13:56):
they're trying to, argue, right is when a ten year
old comes in and say As i'm a girl in
a boy's, body Or i'm a boy in a girl's.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Body.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Whatever the heck of argument is that we should start
to restrict their natural hormones and, puberty and that they
can then pump them full of all sorts of just
ridiculousness when it comes to. Hormones and so you would
flood a boy with, estrogen or you would flood a
young girl with, testosterone which is diabolical in my.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Mind and you know all these people that will talk,
about you, know microplastics and the worried about the long
term study for this or big pharma or.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Whatever, right you know how many really good long term studies.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
There are for giving kids huge doses of estrogen or
testosterone to change their.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Gender basically.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
None so the way to do is just basic common.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Sense if you think about when your kids went through,
puberty when you went through, puberty if it is the
time when your bones grow the, most it is the
time when you become a man or. Woman the idea
that we would stop that from happening and try to
reverse it in the other, DIRECTION i mean it is
to me it is child abuse of an epic level
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Speaker 6 (16:31):
You SO i think a fourth option is basically when
you come out and identify as a, woman you have
to wait six months to a. Year it just buys
them more.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Time, YEAH i don't think. That thank you for the.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
CALL i agree with you that they are in a
panic Because Enuskant FREEDOM i just posted his official making
himself available for the twenty twenty SEVEN wnba draft On.
Twitter he texted it to. ME i think that they
are going to. Panic and, again all of these Requirements,
buck And i'll talk about the just the economic impact
(17:06):
in a second we come. Back but all of these
requirements at their most basic, level require that THE wnba
define what a woman.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Is and the.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Idea that we would have ever had to define what
a woman is thirty some odd years ago when they
came up with these definitions was.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Crazy but they have put themselves in this.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
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i think.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
We'll talk about that when we come back to.
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
Safe welcome back In clay And. Buck we are rolling
through The monday edition of the. Program a lot of
quests out there. Again you, go. Girl congratulations To Eniscant
freedom and To Royce, white to former first ROUND nba
draft picks who have declared for THE wnba. Draft AND
i just posted the letter That Enis Kantor freedom sent
(19:15):
to THE wnba saying he fulfills the eligibility, requirements he's
identifying as a, woman all of the particular league requirements
in order to enter THE wnba. Draft And, buck we
were talking about this off. Air it used to be
the case THAT wnba, Players, okay maybe they make fifty
k a, year maybe they make sixty k a. Year
(19:36):
they weren't making very much. Money but you asked a
good question THAT i don't think a lot of, people
and we're going to get some of your calls THAT
i don't think a lot of people have thought through right,
now if you're AN nba, player if you're one of
the five hundred or so best basketball players in the,
world you make tens of millions of. Dollars you become,
very very. Wealthy but if you are trying to make THE,
(19:58):
nba they have a minor league called THE G. League
the AVERAGE G league player makes forty five thousand dollars a.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Year SO nba, star you make.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Millions of dollars a year and you are largely set for.
Life but if you are not of that caliber of,
talent you're just.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Lesser you're trying to work your way into THE, nba
they only pay you forty FIVE k a.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Year the average.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Salary under the new Collective Bargaining agreement thanks To Caitlin,
clark the salary cap is now seven million dollars for
A wnba, team and the average player can now make
five HUNDRED k a. Year let me ask you, this
how many of you out there listening to us one
(20:49):
hundred percent men would raise your hands and, say, YEAH
i identify as a. Woman IF i and as a,
result you could ten x your. SET i think the
economic realities are now starting to collide in THE wnba
WITH i, mean, heck guys are struggling on forty five.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
K they can make five hundred k and.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
DOMINATE i, ALSO i would just point out clay to
the issue of how would they differentiate or how would
they police. This it can't be, WELL i don't believe
that you think you're a woman because you don't have
long hair and painted. Fingernail it can't be these superficialities
because then you're opening yourself up to, well is.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
That all it? Requires or what are the?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Rules?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Like they can't actually, say going back To Matt walsh's
very good, documentary.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
They can't actually answer the question what is a?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Woman which means they leave it to the individual because.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
The moment they come up with any.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Applicable, DEFINITION i would just know what The Women's Tennis
association has done that is what should be done, here
which is they just do a gender, test.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Gender test.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Time all they have to. Do that's just at once
and you're. Eligible yeah xxx, y just like the clothing.
Brand that's all you gotta do, that and that's the whole.
Thing anything other than, that, clay and you open yourself
up to endless further. Headaches so this is enus cancer
freedom could play without long, hair without without taking. Hormones
(22:21):
does that mean? Anything he SEMs to be, Like i'm a.
Woman let's, go who is the the camemer the guy's?
Name he was a like A. Zubie he WASN'T i
think he Wasn't. America he might have Been.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
British.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Jubi, yeah all the women's weightlifting. Records uh and identified
as a woman and, SAID i am now the strongest
woman that has ever. Lived because to a large, extent
that's all that's. Required and, yeah, LOOK i, mean we
got a bunch of callers who want a way. In
but this is WHY i say the w n B
(22:52):
a is in a tough spot because in identifying what
women are to exclude enus, canter they will have to
acknowledge that they can in some way define what a woman.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Is and this is so ridiculous that we are.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Here but it's kind of amazing, Too and it's also
something that is cutting through the. Noise we were talking
about it every time we talk about. This the YouTube
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(23:29):
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(23:50):
company that says men shouldn't be able to compete as.
Women every other athletic comparel that you are buying they have,
done Like nike did that ridiculous thing with the what's
the chicks name The dylan. Mulvaney they put her in
a put him in a sports brad and, like, Hey
i'm a, girl go buy a.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
SPORTS i would also point out there's an IMPORTANT i,
know we got a lot of. Calls we should get
to them because people are fired up about. This But,
clay there's a, corollary or there's a flip side to
the coin of men shouldn't play in women's. Sports, comma
that's why we are defending women's. Athletics you cannot defend
women's athletics without drawing this.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Line.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Correct it's like SAYING i have a country with no,
borders anyone can come or.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Go, well you don't have a country. Anymore if you
are not willing to draw.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
This, line you are not willing to say that there
is such a thing as women's sports that is, important
that should be, defended that should be. Respected and it's
actually the people who are willing to draw that line
who are showing respect to female athletic, achievement to what they've,
done the hours and hours countless hours put in the
excellence of their. ATHLETICISM i think that's an important part of,
(24:57):
this that it's not just about keeping you, know macho
man Ra Andy savage from spiking the volleyball right into
your teenage girl's. Face, yes that's important. Too we all
see that it's also about defending women's achievements in, athletics
which completely gets maligned and destroyed by this whole.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Thing exactly because if you had, unisex there would be
no women who would make any teams at. All And
ron And Augusta georgia firing away in that, Direction, ron
what you got for?
Speaker 7 (25:24):
Us, yeah, guys this might be just an over simplistic
way of solving the, problem but it would help get
The league out of the era of biology and sciences
and let economics take over instead of having men's and
women's professional. Basketball eliminate that title and just make it
The Basketball, association and let, well then that's THE nba
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right on who's going to get hired and who's not
going to get. Hired AND i think eventually they'll find
out economics will, win the fans will, win and this
problem can be kicked down the road just a little.
Further it's ridiculous we spend this much time, arguing oh
with these and to, me it goes back to the
(26:10):
bigger picture of this is just background noise to take
people away from the real issues we're. Facing that's my big. Point.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
GUYS i appreciate.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
IT i disagree on that BECAUSE i think this is
the essence of what democrats. Believe they are willing to
lie to you about men becoming. Women if they were not,
willing if this wasn't foundational to their, worldview they would just,
(26:39):
say you know, what you're, right THE wnba is just
going to be. Women instead of saying, that you know
how they argue Buck they say two. Things, one this
doesn't happen very. Often you know, What murder statistically doesn't
happen that, often, right relative to not like you would
(27:01):
never say in your community if one person gets, murdered
you would never, say, well this is not we shouldn't,
Investigate we shouldn't try to figure out who the culprit is,
here we shouldn't investigate this at. All one murder in
your community is too, Many so no one ever, says,
oh you, know there's not that much actual robbery going.
(27:22):
On you're probably going to be able to get money
out of THE atm without getting. MUGGED i don't know
why you would even report, it, Right, like this is.
Crazy and then the second one they say is it
doesn't happen that. Often then they, say, well there's more important. Things,
Okay well why are you so focused on?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
It is the?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Thing, yeah then you're the. Problem they were talking about
why do you?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
CARE i mean because basic rules matter to me and
if you lie to, ME i can't trust you on anything. Else,
that to me is why they're in a tough.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Spot.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah this reminds me of like arguing with some crazy
ex girlfriends where they're, like why do you want to
do this? Thing and like why do you want to
do this? Thing like why do you want to go
to this? Place you, know we're having a conversation about
something don't tell me that we shouldn't be having the
conversation about the thing that you. Forced, yes, yeah good
luck with. That it's probably your tone when you're having that. Conversation,
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oh it's definitely my. Tone, yeah it's not what you,
said it's the way you.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Said it's a. Tone.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Always has any man ever won a tone, argument by the,
way with a, woman this is like the women's coup
de Grad it's like their trump.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Card they go to.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Tone have you ever heard of a man who was,
like it's not what you, said it's the tone you
used while you say one and be, like you know,
what you're?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Right my tone.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
WAS i get to find, that in especially a contentious
argument between a man and a woman who are in
a romantic, relationship husband or, OTHERWISE i have never found
that there is a tone of voice you can use
that is safe whatever that if you go too, neutral
like perhaps we can talk about then why are you
being so? Weird if you get, aggressive obviously it's like come,
(28:56):
on then you're being. Aggressive and if you go too,
nice you, know you're being, clay, condescending.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Patronizing you, know also it's. Amazing can we can you
just calm? Down doesn't work very. Well can you just
tell them to calm? Down the wives love.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
It, guys just tell them when you're in a heated,
argument just look at them and just say calm, down
just like, that and make kind of a face when
you do.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
It they love.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
That it really works. Well steve In, Oklahoma, steve what
you got for?
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Us, hey let's Go nashville. Balls.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
AMEN i think that that THE wnba is if they
let men, play you're.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Taking away a spot from a biological. Woman but men
would find it humorous to be watching a bount of
transgender men.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Play AND i actually this is a funny, Argument.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
STEVE i actually think arguably letting dudes in the W
nba would skyrocket ratings buck.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
No question for a.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
While, YEAH i, mean wouldn't you, Watch like if you
found out there were two guys that were gonna play
in a W nba, game even if you put him
in a, wig it's an, obvious ridiculous Us canter IS
i don't, know forty years. Old roughly somebody can look
up his actual, age you, know thirty eight whatever he. Is,
fuck he would score one hundred points in a W nba.
(30:17):
Game he would score every single time down the. Court
he would Wilt chamberlain the W. NBA i, mean he
would be utterly. Unstoppable he would have one hundred percent
field goal. Percentage he would dunk on these girls like
he would miss a few. Shots he wouldn't have one
hundred percent every. TIME i don't think he. WOULD i
(30:38):
don't think he would have to do anything other than
dunk or shoot. Layups they can't play above the. Rim
like he's seven feet. Tall if you get him the
ball in the, paint he would either that like they
would have to tackle, him or he would he might
miss some freak, well.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
They would do the close line like they did To Sophie.
Cunningham they'd close line and then they would say it's white,
privilege even though he's not. White rick In detroit.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Is that the league officials has with the W. Nba
it's not so much about biology and allowing transgender men
who identify as women to play in a, sport because
the challenge they have is a large percentage of employees
and members within their organization already see themselves as gay and.
Lesbian so there are women out there who think that
(31:25):
that are women, biologically but they identify as, Men so you,
know they're on the verge of becoming a freak show
like The Mary povich of you, know just kind of.
Craziness they already have a product that people don't, watch
and it's just going to get more. Weird so that's my.
Comment i'd love to hear your.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Thoughts, well, LOOK i think the more interesting question AND
i will actually open phone lines for. This we've got
a couple of. Guests Ron johnson is going to join, us,
obviously our Buddy Wisconsin. SENATOR i want to hear what
he has to say About Francesca hong in addition to
The fauci. Situation they Are fauci's has been taken, in
they're reviewing, it and Then Byron donald's going to join.
(32:05):
US i know he's going to have a take on.
This he's a monster sports fan as. Well BUT i
do think for the gay, Community, buck a lot of
people out there who are gay and lesbian are looking
around and saying we are nothing like people who are
this militantly Trans there is a big difference between gay
(32:27):
rights candidly and, hey your eight year old should get
pumped full of. Hormones hey your twelve year old should
get her boobs chopped. Off, hey your fourteen year old
should consider getting his penis.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Removed.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Kay people think this is crazy, too and SO i
think there's a bit of an unholy alliance from a
lot of. People i'll open up phone. Lines we've got
a lot of gay. Listeners eight hundred and two two
two EIGHT a. TWO i think this is a conversation
that gay people have to be having regularly in their circles,
too where they, say wait a, minute.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
This o LGBT.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Q you, KNOW i jk lmnop like there's a big
difference between a militant trans community and an average gay.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Person, well i'd also, ask And i'm sure we have
some some lesbian. Listeners i'd be curious because the same
way that you, know when When i'm told as a
man that a man who says he's a woman that
is not going to be sexually appealing to.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Me That's i'm not going to accept. That that's you,
KNOW i am a. Heterosexual do lesbians when a man
says he's a, woman are they attracted to the man
who says he's a. Woman, NO i would assume that
they do not accept. That do they accept?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
That because then that would be. Heterois do you see
What i'm saying.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
To THE i don't think this is. Crazy there is
an unholy alliance that does no longer exist here between
gays and trans, community AND i think all that conversation
has to be taking, place like would.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
A lesbian be attracted to a trans? Woman because why
not then just be attracted to?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Men you see What i'm.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Saying, Yeah i'm trying to follow this gener politics here get.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Confusing it reminds me back in the.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
DAY i Think i've used this analogy buck when we
used to have to get up in front of the
class in diagram sentences and you would have all these
different lines coming down and eventually like it's all LIKE
i don't even understand where all the lines are going,
now some of the LANGUAGE i can't keep track. OF
i can't even imagine if you're sixty or seventy years,
old how crazy all this. Sounds it sounds crazy to.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Us let's bring this back into something that's very, real
very much in this current, moment which is saving as
many babies as possible and preborn is out there doing
this because as you, know there's still far too much
abortion in this country and, laws and a lot of
states are incredibly permissive even After ROE.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
V wade was overturned.
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Preborn isn't waiting for more hearts and minds to change
in these states to change these. Laws they're saving lives right.
Now they do this by welcoming moms into their clinics
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after that free, ultrasound they'll stay with that mom to help,
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Pie welcome back Into clay And. Buck take a quick one,
Here dmitri And houston wanted to get you. In we
got about forty, seconds, though my, man go for.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
It this is it's been going on for two generations
that the demoralization infiltration of modern. Society people don't understand
how capitalists created, well they've blamed the millionaires for accumulating
and distributing wealth and we're just seeing the. Rash those
are just the skin rashes that women and men and women's,
(36:27):
sports and removal of national monuments and the investigation And.
Smithsonian everything's much. Deeper and with the frogs that have
been boiling that warm water for some time, now the
water is about to boil and we all finally, heating
feeling that heat coming into.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Underneath but, yeah race communism is. Bad you're, Right. Dmitri
we'll be a back thank you u
Welcome in Monday at Ession, Play and Buck. We hope
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stories that we are tracking. Tomorrow is the primary in
Wisconsin crazy pro canceling of Thanksgiving. Democrat Francesca Hong is
(01:06):
favored to win. She now, of course, is saying that
Thanksgiving is her favorite holiday, so she's very committed to
her crazy perspectives. We've got AOC saying, hey, maybe we
were just a little bit crazy haha, laughs it off.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
We will talk about that. We got two awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Guests, Ron Johnson, Senator from Wisconsin, who is now in
possession of doctor Anthony Fauci's cell phone and he is
beginning to uncover all sorts of interesting information there. We
also have the man that I believe will be the
next governor of Florida. I think Buck would sign off
(01:45):
on that as well. As early voting has started in
Florida Byron Donald's, current congressman from South Florida, he will
join us as well. And potentially we will be joined
by Enis Canton Freedom, who have made a lot of
noise after we went off the air yesterday as he
(02:06):
former first round NBA draft pick has declared for the
WNBA alongside of Royce White, another former NBA draft pick.
And this story just keeps getting crazier and crazier.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
First of all, how is your weekend? Did everything go well?
Everything smooth in the South Florida world? Well, thank you Klays,
very neighborly of you. Yes, it was a great weekend
down here in South Florida. That's very quiet in Miami
this time of year. A lot of people are gone.
I'm here because I love Miami all the time. I'm
not a fair weather Miami fan, but no, it's been great.
(02:42):
I will say I enjoyed watching this morning. You know,
the read in for the show.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Sometimes I can't believe because this is what I would
do anyway, right, isn't that that I would be reading
all the news all morning even if we weren't doing
this show. I know you feel the same way, although
you read an old newspaper because you know, old man
going to old man. What the AOC interview? I watched
the whole thing and for her to refer to woke
one point zero Clay, I find this fascinting. There's a
(03:09):
real glimpse here into what the Democrats are gonna try
going forward, and I think that's absolute we're talking about.
But on the WNBA thing that this is really interesting
because I keep you keep thinking that the the apparatus
of trans is.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Gonna find some you know, some off ramp.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Or they're no, no, there's really no willingness at all,
it seems right now. I guess their plan, Clay, with
inis Kant freedom and we should get into some of
these details, is to just ignore him and say, well,
no one in the league wants to draft him. Is
that is that what they're going to do.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Like, what do you?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Let's look at the next play here, because they have
absolutely not been willing to say, like they do in tennis,
we're gonna check to see if they're actually a chick
and only chicks should play against chicks.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
They won't do that.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Okay, So there's so many things going on here, Buck.
First of all, I feel like we could do the
whole show on the WNBA going over the woke waterfall
on Saturday Afternoon. Sophie Cunningham, who came out a few
weeks ago and said men should not be able to
play in women's sports not a particularly earth shattering take.
(04:22):
And she's pretty and white and blonde, which does factor
into the whole equation.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Here go ahead.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
She was on a breakaway layup a black woman with
a blonde wig named de Jona, named after mustard. Evidently
maybe mustard and mayonnaise combo condiment inspiration. She wiped out
Sophie Cunningham in a violent, frankly foul flagrant too.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
She was kicked out of the game. I saw the clip.
It looked like a WWE clothes line. It did not
look like a basketball foul. It was I'm going to,
you know, basically like do a flying arm bar.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
At your neck and you can watch.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
The play went megaviral over the weekend, and she then
after getting kicked out, Buck immediately went into the locker room.
She was kicked out after they reviewed the play. I
don't think it was remotely controversial that she was kicked out,
and she said white privilege in a tweet complaining about
(05:28):
the fact that she had been kicked out. All of
the left wing sports media lined up and you know,
basically just made themselves even more ridiculous than they already were.
I grabbed this Buck because Sports Illustrated, which if you're
around my age, your age, a lot of people who
are older than us, if you're a sports fan, going
(05:50):
to the mailbox to get the weekly Sports Illustrated and
see who was going to be on the cover, and
see what articles were going to be in the magazine.
Did they write about athletes that you liked? Did they
write about teams that you liked? I mean, it was
a super exciting experience. I couldn't wait as a young
kid run down how a Sports Illustrated subscription and oh
(06:11):
my goodness, look at this, like this guy's going to
be on the cover. Saved magazines, that's how popular it was.
Sometimes took covers, put them on the wall. All of
you remember this, to say nothing of how much of
a moment the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue was back before
the Internet existed. Their headline on this buck was Sophie
Cunningham got a bitter taste of karma after drawing flagrant
(06:36):
foul in fever Skygame Karma. They later changed the headline
bitter taste of karma. Of course, at least in the
way that I read it and most people read it,
was she came out against men and women's sports, and
then she got wrecked by a black player who tweeted
white privilege. Imagine it's easy to do, but Buck, if
(07:00):
Sophie Cunningham, after she had gotten kicked out of a
game for a foul, had tweeted black privilege, the world
would have come undone. She probably would have been suspended
for the rest of the season. Every person on the
planet in woke left wing sports media would have lost
their minds.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So that was Saturday Friday.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Friday, two different former first round NBA draft picks declared
themselves eligible for the WNBA draft Enus Cancer Freedom and
Royce White, both of whom again were first round NBA
draft picks, both of whom are no longer in the NBA.
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And on Saturday morning, I woke up to the news
that the WNBA had scheduled this week an emergency meeting
to try and define what a woman is because the
players and coaches and some teams that have argued you
are a woman if you decide to identify as a woman,
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if that is going to be the standard, then men
are eligible. And so Buck you asked the question, which
I think is a good one. I think the phrase
that I have used is I think Enis Kanter with
this move has checkmated the WNBA because they really only
have three options, as I see it from a legal perspective.
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One they say, well, he is not actually a woman.
But if they say that, then they are acknowledging that
they're able to determine who a woman is, which is
a mess for them. Second option is they can allow
men to play in the WNBA, which effectively destroys the
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entire WNBA because these women now make a lot of
money and so you would have a lot of people
come in. Third option is they all agree that they
will not draft him. But the problem with that is
that's an antitrust violation, and he would be able to
sue and argue that they had colluded against him, which
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would open the league up, wait to a massive amount
of damages.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Excuse me, lawyer, excuse me, sir.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Couldn't he also sue for discrimination as probably probably could
he sue the league for discriminating against him on the
basis of perceived gender.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yes, you know, I think he could based on the
fact that they haven't. But the usually you can, and
this gets into the legal weeds. You can treble, you
can triple sometimes anti trust damages depending on how you sue.
And so this in and of itself is a recipe
for disaster that the league has put itself in based
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on the fact that he has now officially declared for
the w NBA draft. And so, Buck, I mean, I
just think overall that this is a unmitigated disaster for
the WNBA. Rush would have loved this story, Buck, because
nobody liked pushing absurdity to its logical conclusion more than
(10:08):
Rush did. And they do not have any ability here,
in my opinion, to get out of this now this
is a huge mess and they have created it entirely
of their own volition.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
What they should do, what the commissioner should do.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Is basically buck the same thing that the WTA did,
which is say men aren't allowed to compete in this sport.
It is the WNBA for a reason. Women is defined
as being women who are born as women at birth.
And what's funny is when they founded the WNBA thirty
years ago, Buck, I don't think they could have ever
(10:48):
conceived that this would be as crazy as it is today,
that they would ever be in a position where you
could argue that using the term woman is not just
scriptive enough when it comes to eligibility standards. But when
you have players and coaches coming out and saying a
man who identifies as a woman is just as much
(11:10):
of a woman as all of you out there listening
right now that have been women your whole lives. This
is where identity politics broken brains. This is where ultimately
it all leads. And I just think that we are
in a spot where the WNBA has gone over the
(11:31):
woke waterfall and they don't have good options now.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Okay, but so you laid out the options, I agree
with you what the options are. Which option do you
think the WNBA is going to pick? Because you know
there are some true believers. It's very tough to know
on this issue. Who just doesn't want to get screened
at by the lunatics, because there's a lot of that,
and so.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
They either cower or they go along.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Who just wants to be a part of like the
cool kid team on the left, doesn't really believe this,
but they agree with them on everything else. And then
who are that guy who weighs two thirty and is six'
four and has, like you, know a, beard is actually a.
Chick it's tough to know who falls into what category.
Here but do you think there's any chance that they
(12:19):
Actually Lady in Has canter freedom? Play that's really Where i'm.
Going do you think that they just, say, yeah that's
how committed we, are will let him. Play is there
any chance in your mind they actually do?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
That it is.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
CRAZY i don't. KNOW i Don't because they let them
compete in The. Olympics we've we've seen the, powerlifter we've seen. This,
yeah they've left all of the rational basis under which
all of you out there with basic common sense would have,
behaved and SO i think there is a world where
they try to redefine women based on estrogen levels in, blood.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
To try to argue that you have to be a.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Woman in order to classify as a, woman you have
to have AND i don't even know what the biology, is, Right,
basically you have to be pumping your body full of
FEMININE i.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Can tell you that that does nothing that makes you
if you're a man who does, that it just makes
you basically like grow breasts and makes you really. Depressed
it doesn't actually make you a, woman and it doesn't
destroy the underlying musculature and bone structure and bone. Debt
so there's a thing you're not actually even going to be.
Changing even if you did, that you wouldn't be dealing
(13:34):
with the. Problem you see, WHAT.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I, Agree But i'm trying to think like a crazy
person as these people. Are the other, thing AND i
think this is actually even more, alarming is buck they
go back and they, say in order to qualify as a,
woman you have to begin estrogen treatment before, puberty which
actually encourages this diabolical treatment of young. Children and what
(13:56):
they're trying to, argue, right is when a ten year
old comes in and say As i'm a girl in
a boy's, body Or i'm a boy in a girl's.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Body.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Whatever the heck of argument is that we should start
to restrict their natural hormones and, puberty and that they
can then pump them full of all sorts of just
ridiculousness when it comes to. Hormones and so you would
flood a boy with, estrogen or you would flood a
young girl with, testosterone which is diabolical in my.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Mind and you know all these people that will talk,
about you, know microplastics and the worried about the long
term study for this or big pharma or.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Whatever, right you know how many really good long term studies.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
There are for giving kids huge doses of estrogen or
testosterone to change their.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Gender basically.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
None so the way to do is just basic common.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Sense if you think about when your kids went through,
puberty when you went through, puberty if it is the
time when your bones grow the, most it is the
time when you become a man or. Woman the idea
that we would stop that from happening and try to
reverse it in the other, DIRECTION i mean it is
to me it is child abuse of an epic level
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Speaker 3 (16:22):
Buck let's take quick call Here Stephen. Boston let's Go.
Steve what do you got for us up In?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Boston great?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Show thank.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
You SO i think a fourth option is basically when
you come out and identify as a, woman you have
to wait six months to a. Year it just buys
them more.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Time, YEAH i don't think. That thank you for the.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
CALL i agree with you that they are in a
panic Because Enuskant FREEDOM i just posted his official making
himself available for the twenty twenty SEVEN wnba draft On.
Twitter he texted it to. ME i think that they
are going to. Panic and, again all of these Requirements,
buck And i'll talk about the just the economic impact
(17:06):
in a second we come. Back but all of these
requirements at their most basic, level require that THE wnba
define what a woman.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Is and the.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Idea that we would have ever had to define what
a woman is thirty some odd years ago when they
came up with these definitions was.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Crazy but they have put themselves in this.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Position also though THE, wnba AS i understand, it and
you have told me your expertise in THE wnba runs
deeper than mine a lot of. Lesbians when did that
become so tai and meshed in the idea of TRANS'S
i think.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
We'll talk about that when we come back to.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Here there's a bunch of gay people listening to us
right now that do not subscribe to the.
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
Safe welcome back In clay And. Buck we are rolling
through The monday edition of the. Program a lot of
quests out there. Again you, go. Girl congratulations To Eniscant
freedom and To Royce, white to former first ROUND nba
draft picks who have declared for THE wnba. Draft AND
i just posted the letter That Enis Kantor freedom sent
(19:15):
to THE wnba saying he fulfills the eligibility, requirements he's
identifying as a, woman all of the particular league requirements
in order to enter THE wnba. Draft And, buck we
were talking about this off. Air it used to be
the case THAT wnba, Players, okay maybe they make fifty
k a, year maybe they make sixty k a. Year
(19:36):
they weren't making very much. Money but you asked a
good question THAT i don't think a lot of, people
and we're going to get some of your calls THAT
i don't think a lot of people have thought through right,
now if you're AN nba, player if you're one of
the five hundred or so best basketball players in the,
world you make tens of millions of. Dollars you become,
very very. Wealthy but if you are trying to make THE,
(19:58):
nba they have a minor league called THE G. League
the AVERAGE G league player makes forty five thousand dollars a.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Year SO nba, star you make.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Millions of dollars a year and you are largely set for.
Life but if you are not of that caliber of,
talent you're just.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Lesser you're trying to work your way into THE, nba
they only pay you forty FIVE k a.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Year the average.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Salary under the new Collective Bargaining agreement thanks To Caitlin,
clark the salary cap is now seven million dollars for
A wnba, team and the average player can now make
five HUNDRED k a. Year let me ask you, this
how many of you out there listening to us one
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hundred percent men would raise your hands and, say, YEAH
i identify as a. Woman IF i and as a,
result you could ten x your. SET i think the
economic realities are now starting to collide in THE wnba
WITH i, mean, heck guys are struggling on forty five.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
K they can make five hundred k and.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
DOMINATE i, ALSO i would just point out clay to
the issue of how would they differentiate or how would
they police. This it can't be, WELL i don't believe
that you think you're a woman because you don't have
long hair and painted. Fingernail it can't be these superficialities
because then you're opening yourself up to, well is.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
That all it? Requires or what are the?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Rules?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Like they can't actually, say going back To Matt walsh's
very good, documentary.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
They can't actually answer the question what is a?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Woman which means they leave it to the individual because.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
The moment they come up with any.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Applicable, DEFINITION i would just know what The Women's Tennis
association has done that is what should be done, here
which is they just do a gender, test.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Gender test.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Time all they have to. Do that's just at once
and you're. Eligible yeah xxx, y just like the clothing.
Brand that's all you gotta do, that and that's the whole.
Thing anything other than, that, clay and you open yourself
up to endless further. Headaches so this is enus cancer
freedom could play without long, hair without without taking. Hormones
(22:21):
does that mean? Anything he SEMs to be, Like i'm a.
Woman let's, go who is the the camemer the guy's?
Name he was a like A. Zubie he WASN'T i
think he Wasn't. America he might have Been.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
British.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Jubi, yeah all the women's weightlifting. Records uh and identified
as a woman and, SAID i am now the strongest
woman that has ever. Lived because to a large, extent
that's all that's. Required and, yeah, LOOK i, mean we
got a bunch of callers who want a way. In
but this is WHY i say the w n B
(22:52):
a is in a tough spot because in identifying what
women are to exclude enus, canter they will have to
acknowledge that they can in some way define what a woman.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Is and this is so ridiculous that we are.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Here but it's kind of amazing, Too and it's also
something that is cutting through the. Noise we were talking
about it every time we talk about. This the YouTube
numbers are through the roof Buck we have. Sold you
can Buy Nashville ball's gear at. Xxxy you can go
(23:29):
to My twitter. Feed we sold over fifty thousand dollars
In Nashville BALL'S t shirts AT. Xxxy by the, Way,
Xxxy jennifer says, Brand i'm an investor in the, brand
small part of. It it's gonna be the biggest best
months that they have ever. Had it's the only apparel
(23:50):
company that says men shouldn't be able to compete as.
Women every other athletic comparel that you are buying they have,
done Like nike did that ridiculous thing with the what's
the chicks name The dylan. Mulvaney they put her in
a put him in a sports brad and, like, Hey
i'm a, girl go buy a.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
SPORTS i would also point out there's an IMPORTANT i,
know we got a lot of. Calls we should get
to them because people are fired up about. This But,
clay there's a, corollary or there's a flip side to
the coin of men shouldn't play in women's. Sports, comma
that's why we are defending women's. Athletics you cannot defend
women's athletics without drawing this.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Line.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Correct it's like SAYING i have a country with no,
borders anyone can come or.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Go, well you don't have a country. Anymore if you
are not willing to draw.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
This, line you are not willing to say that there
is such a thing as women's sports that is, important
that should be, defended that should be. Respected and it's
actually the people who are willing to draw that line
who are showing respect to female athletic, achievement to what they've,
done the hours and hours countless hours put in the
excellence of their. ATHLETICISM i think that's an important part of,
(24:57):
this that it's not just about keeping you, know macho
man Ra Andy savage from spiking the volleyball right into
your teenage girl's. Face, yes that's important. Too we all
see that it's also about defending women's achievements in, athletics
which completely gets maligned and destroyed by this whole.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Thing exactly because if you had, unisex there would be
no women who would make any teams at. All And
ron And Augusta georgia firing away in that, Direction, ron
what you got for?
Speaker 7 (25:24):
Us, yeah, guys this might be just an over simplistic
way of solving the, problem but it would help get
The league out of the era of biology and sciences
and let economics take over instead of having men's and
women's professional. Basketball eliminate that title and just make it
The Basketball, association and let, well then that's THE nba
(25:49):
right on who's going to get hired and who's not
going to get. Hired AND i think eventually they'll find
out economics will, win the fans will, win and this
problem can be kicked down the road just a little.
Further it's ridiculous we spend this much time, arguing oh
with these and to, me it goes back to the
(26:10):
bigger picture of this is just background noise to take
people away from the real issues we're. Facing that's my big. Point.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
GUYS i appreciate.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
IT i disagree on that BECAUSE i think this is
the essence of what democrats. Believe they are willing to
lie to you about men becoming. Women if they were not,
willing if this wasn't foundational to their, worldview they would just,
(26:39):
say you know, what you're, right THE wnba is just
going to be. Women instead of saying, that you know
how they argue Buck they say two. Things, one this
doesn't happen very. Often you know, What murder statistically doesn't
happen that, often, right relative to not like you would
(27:01):
never say in your community if one person gets, murdered
you would never, say, well this is not we shouldn't,
Investigate we shouldn't try to figure out who the culprit is,
here we shouldn't investigate this at. All one murder in
your community is too, Many so no one ever, says,
oh you, know there's not that much actual robbery going.
(27:22):
On you're probably going to be able to get money
out of THE atm without getting. MUGGED i don't know
why you would even report, it, Right, like this is.
Crazy and then the second one they say is it
doesn't happen that. Often then they, say, well there's more important. Things,
Okay well why are you so focused on?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
It is the?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Thing, yeah then you're the. Problem they were talking about
why do you?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
CARE i mean because basic rules matter to me and
if you lie to, ME i can't trust you on anything. Else,
that to me is why they're in a tough.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Spot.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah this reminds me of like arguing with some crazy
ex girlfriends where they're, like why do you want to
do this? Thing and like why do you want to
do this? Thing like why do you want to go
to this? Place you, know we're having a conversation about
something don't tell me that we shouldn't be having the
conversation about the thing that you. Forced, yes, yeah good
luck with. That it's probably your tone when you're having that. Conversation,
(28:12):
oh it's definitely my. Tone, yeah it's not what you,
said it's the way you.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Said it's a. Tone.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Always has any man ever won a tone, argument by the,
way with a, woman this is like the women's coup
de Grad it's like their trump.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Card they go to.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Tone have you ever heard of a man who was,
like it's not what you, said it's the tone you
used while you say one and be, like you know,
what you're?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Right my tone.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
WAS i get to find, that in especially a contentious
argument between a man and a woman who are in
a romantic, relationship husband or, OTHERWISE i have never found
that there is a tone of voice you can use
that is safe whatever that if you go too, neutral
like perhaps we can talk about then why are you
being so? Weird if you get, aggressive obviously it's like come,
(28:56):
on then you're being. Aggressive and if you go too,
nice you, know you're being, clay, condescending.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Patronizing you, know also it's. Amazing can we can you
just calm? Down doesn't work very. Well can you just
tell them to calm? Down the wives love.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
It, guys just tell them when you're in a heated,
argument just look at them and just say calm, down
just like, that and make kind of a face when
you do.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
It they love.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
That it really works. Well steve In, Oklahoma, steve what
you got for?
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Us, hey let's Go nashville. Balls.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
AMEN i think that that THE wnba is if they
let men, play you're.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Taking away a spot from a biological. Woman but men
would find it humorous to be watching a bount of
transgender men.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Play AND i actually this is a funny, Argument.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
STEVE i actually think arguably letting dudes in the W
nba would skyrocket ratings buck.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
No question for a.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
While, YEAH i, mean wouldn't you, Watch like if you
found out there were two guys that were gonna play
in a W nba, game even if you put him
in a, wig it's an, obvious ridiculous Us canter IS
i don't, know forty years. Old roughly somebody can look
up his actual, age you, know thirty eight whatever he. Is,
fuck he would score one hundred points in a W nba.
(30:17):
Game he would score every single time down the. Court
he would Wilt chamberlain the W. NBA i, mean he
would be utterly. Unstoppable he would have one hundred percent
field goal. Percentage he would dunk on these girls like
he would miss a few. Shots he wouldn't have one
hundred percent every. TIME i don't think he. WOULD i
(30:38):
don't think he would have to do anything other than
dunk or shoot. Layups they can't play above the. Rim
like he's seven feet. Tall if you get him the
ball in the, paint he would either that like they
would have to tackle, him or he would he might
miss some freak, well.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
They would do the close line like they did To Sophie.
Cunningham they'd close line and then they would say it's white,
privilege even though he's not. White rick In detroit.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Is that the league officials has with the W. Nba
it's not so much about biology and allowing transgender men
who identify as women to play in a, sport because
the challenge they have is a large percentage of employees
and members within their organization already see themselves as gay and.
Lesbian so there are women out there who think that
(31:25):
that are women, biologically but they identify as, Men so you,
know they're on the verge of becoming a freak show
like The Mary povich of you, know just kind of.
Craziness they already have a product that people don't, watch
and it's just going to get more. Weird so that's my.
Comment i'd love to hear your.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Thoughts, well, LOOK i think the more interesting question AND
i will actually open phone lines for. This we've got
a couple of. Guests Ron johnson is going to join, us,
obviously our Buddy Wisconsin. SENATOR i want to hear what
he has to say About Francesca hong in addition to
The fauci. Situation they Are fauci's has been taken, in
they're reviewing, it and Then Byron donald's going to join.
(32:05):
US i know he's going to have a take on.
This he's a monster sports fan as. Well BUT i
do think for the gay, Community, buck a lot of
people out there who are gay and lesbian are looking
around and saying we are nothing like people who are
this militantly Trans there is a big difference between gay
(32:27):
rights candidly and, hey your eight year old should get
pumped full of. Hormones hey your twelve year old should
get her boobs chopped. Off, hey your fourteen year old
should consider getting his penis.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Removed.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Kay people think this is crazy, too and SO i
think there's a bit of an unholy alliance from a
lot of. People i'll open up phone. Lines we've got
a lot of gay. Listeners eight hundred and two two
two EIGHT a. TWO i think this is a conversation
that gay people have to be having regularly in their circles,
too where they, say wait a, minute.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
This o LGBT.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Q you, KNOW i jk lmnop like there's a big
difference between a militant trans community and an average gay.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Person, well i'd also, ask And i'm sure we have
some some lesbian. Listeners i'd be curious because the same
way that you, know when When i'm told as a
man that a man who says he's a woman that
is not going to be sexually appealing to.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Me That's i'm not going to accept. That that's you,
KNOW i am a. Heterosexual do lesbians when a man
says he's a, woman are they attracted to the man
who says he's a. Woman, NO i would assume that
they do not accept. That do they accept?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
That because then that would be. Heterois do you see
What i'm saying.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
To THE i don't think this is. Crazy there is
an unholy alliance that does no longer exist here between
gays and trans, community AND i think all that conversation
has to be taking, place like would.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
A lesbian be attracted to a trans? Woman because why
not then just be attracted to?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Men you see What i'm.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Saying, Yeah i'm trying to follow this gener politics here get.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Confusing it reminds me back in the.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
DAY i Think i've used this analogy buck when we
used to have to get up in front of the
class in diagram sentences and you would have all these
different lines coming down and eventually like it's all LIKE
i don't even understand where all the lines are going,
now some of the LANGUAGE i can't keep track. OF
i can't even imagine if you're sixty or seventy years,
old how crazy all this. Sounds it sounds crazy to.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Us let's bring this back into something that's very, real
very much in this current, moment which is saving as
many babies as possible and preborn is out there doing
this because as you, know there's still far too much
abortion in this country and, laws and a lot of
states are incredibly permissive even After ROE.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
V wade was overturned.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Preborn isn't waiting for more hearts and minds to change
in these states to change these. Laws they're saving lives right.
Now they do this by welcoming moms into their clinics
and giving them a free. Ultrasound and then if mom chooses,
life which over eighty percent of the time she, does
after that free, ultrasound they'll stay with that mom to help,
her giving her material, assistance emotional, support you name, it
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for two years after.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
The birth of the.
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tiny tiny, babies little boys and girls every. Day they
can only do it with your, help though you the
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Speaker 4 (35:59):
Pie welcome back Into clay And. Buck take a quick one,
Here dmitri And houston wanted to get you. In we
got about forty, seconds, though my, man go for.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
It this is it's been going on for two generations
that the demoralization infiltration of modern. Society people don't understand
how capitalists created, well they've blamed the millionaires for accumulating
and distributing wealth and we're just seeing the. Rash those
are just the skin rashes that women and men and women's,
(36:27):
sports and removal of national monuments and the investigation And.
Smithsonian everything's much. Deeper and with the frogs that have
been boiling that warm water for some time, now the
water is about to boil and we all finally, heating
feeling that heat coming into.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Underneath but, yeah race communism is. Bad you're, Right. Dmitri
we'll be a back thank you u
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