July 16, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featured an in-depth conversation with commentator Tommy Lahren and focused heavily on immigration enforcement, President Donald Trump's agenda, election integrity, Iran policy, military culture, media narratives, and several cultural flashpoints driving conservative political debate. Throughout the hour, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton examined some of the most pressing topics in American politics while also engaging listeners on lifestyle and cultural issues.
The hour opened with Tomi Lahren joining the program to discuss the growing political divide over masculinity, military readiness, and the Department of Defense's new testosterone screening initiative for service members. Lahren argued that Democrats continue to struggle connecting with male voters and discussed broader debates surrounding masculinity, cultural values, and political messaging. The discussion tied into ongoing conversations about military preparedness, physical fitness, and the role of strength and performance standards within the armed forces.
Immigration and border security remained a major focus of Hour 2. Lahren, Travis, and Sexton discussed President Trump's deportation agenda and the administration's approach to immigration enforcement. Lahren argued that immigration was one of the key issues behind Trump's electoral success and expressed support for aggressive deportation policies. The conversation explored ICE operations, federal immigration enforcement, Democratic opposition to deportations, media reactions to enforcement efforts, and concerns that political pressure could weaken implementation of mass deportation promises. The hosts repeatedly emphasized immigration as one of the defining issues shaping the 2026 political environment.
The discussion then shifted to President Trump's anticipated primetime address concerning alleged foreign interference in the 2020 election. The hosts debated whether revisiting election-related controversies would help Republicans politically and examined what impact any new information could have on election integrity debates, voter confidence, and upcoming midterm elections. Lahren suggested focusing on future election reforms, including voter identification requirements and election security measures, while discussing how election issues continue to influence Republican voters.
Foreign policy and national security also received substantial attention. The panel discussed Iran, military strikes, ceasefire uncertainty, energy markets, and the impact geopolitical tensions can have on American families through higher fuel prices. Lahren argued that policymakers should provide Americans with realistic expectations regarding Middle East developments rather than creating false optimism about diplomatic breakthroughs. The segment examined how Iran policy, national security concerns, and global energy markets remain interconnected issues affecting both foreign affairs and domestic politics.
Cultural controversies were another recurring theme. The hosts discussed the upcoming film adaptation of The Odyssey, criticizing reports about modern casting decisions and debating whether contemporary Hollywood productions are inserting progressive politics into classic stories. The conversation expanded into broader concerns about entertainment industry trends, adaptation of historical works, and the continuing debate over "woke" influences in film and television.
Later in the interview, attention turned to Tennessee politics and economic development. Lahren and the hosts discussed growth in Nashville, migration from California to Tennessee, concerns about cultural changes accompanying population growth, and the possibility of Nashville developing into a larger entertainment and production hub. They also discussed Tennessee elections, Governor's race speculation involving Senator Marsha Blackburn, conservative governance, no-state-income-tax policies, and growing voter concerns surrounding large-scale data center projects in rural communities.
Following the interview, the show returned to the ongoing debate regarding testosterone replacement therapy and military health standards. Listener calls addressed hormone replacement therapy, medical treatments for low testosterone, military readiness, personal health experiences, and the distinction between treatment for adults and gender-related medical interventions for minors. The hosts argued that optimizing physical readiness for military personnel should not be controversial and continued to connect health discussions with broader political and cultural debates.
One of the most energetic segments of Hour 2 focused on the House of Representatives passing legislation aimed at ending twice-yearly clock changes associated with daylight saving time. Clay and Buck strongly supported eliminating time changes altogether and advocated for maintai
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay and Buck. Hour number two. We're
rolling through the program. Appreciate all of you hanging out
with us. We are scheduled to be joined by Tommy
Larin of OutKick and also the Big Fox Weekend Show
where she's on six hours every weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
She does a lot.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Want to encourage all of you to go check out
our YouTube page where you can watch now all three
hours of the program, including Tommy who's about to be
on with us right now, and you can comment and
if you go to the live tab you can find
us there. We're continuing to refine and experiment experiment with that,
(00:39):
but Buck, already we're getting thousands of people watching live
every single day, which is a nice way to continue
to grow this audience. We love everybody on AMFM, We
love all of you watching right now on YouTube, serious
satellite radio, everybody out there, and Tommy Laren joins us
now and Tommy just check it. In my mentions, I
(01:02):
was making fun of the Savannah Bananas SB opening act,
and the Savannah Bananas community has has come after me
in all their glory in the comments, which is actually
very very funny. Uh, your husband is a major league
baseball former player and a coach. So you had the
(01:23):
Savannah bananas back in this in this great in Brolio
that has uh has broken out online. So anybody who
wants to be entertained by the comments the Savannah banana
community is coming after me.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
But Tommy, there's a lot to get into. Let's start
off with you. I feel like I'm seeing you up
very well here. Pete Hegseat says that they are going
to be testosterone level checks now for troops. What do
you think the testosterone level is of the average Democrat
voting mail in America?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Well, listen, I don't know, like the hormonal imbalances, right,
you know, that's not really my wheelhouse. So I just
go off of you know, my observations. Right, But you've
said it before and I wholeheartedly agree with you. The
Democrat men, you know, they don't really scream manly, and
then they try to find one that they think reads
manly because you know, he has a beard and he
(02:20):
wears overalls, and Platner's the best they could do. Because
for them, it's like if we just have somebody who
looks a little bit less meek and feminine, then people
will think that we are the masculine party, and then
they pick Graham Platner, who fantasizes about porter potties. So
I don't think they have any understanding on the left
(02:40):
about what masculinity is. I don't think they know what
it looks like, what it sounds like. I certainly think
they don't understand the hormonal imbalances if if that's part
of the problem here, and they still struggle to do that.
So I don't think there's any hope they're going to
find it before twenty twenty six or twenty twenty eight.
I haven't seen any convincing evidence that they know what
it even is.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
So, Tommy, one thing I wanted to talk to you about,
other than the sadness that Brian Stelter and so many
other men of the left wing media are going to
have now that we have a high TRT DoD situation
playing out, but seriously, on the issue of deportations and immigration,
I saw and I agreed with your sense. I saw
(03:23):
your frustration that we were making a concession to the
lunatic left, you know, attack ice maniacs by not doing
I'm sure you've seen now Trump has flipped that around.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
That's a step in the right direction. But how are
you feeling.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
You've been on the border issue very closely for a
long time, and I know you've been down there a
bunch of times. How are you feeling about the promises made,
promises kept aspect of Trump two point zero on deportation specifically.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well, so, I don't think this is actually President Trump, right.
I think he's got some folks that perhaps maybe you're
in his ear, or maybe you're doing what they want
to do. I don't know the intricacies of all of that.
I'm out in these rooms, but I firmly believe that
President Trump won in twenty sixteen and in twenty twenty
four based almost entirely on his immigration stamps and on
mass deportations. These people that are trying to revise history
(04:16):
saying that he was only going to deport the so
called worst of the worst, we're not paying attention. I
watched every single rally. I was promised the largest mass
deportation effort in history, and I believe that that's what
it started out as. And then the left they issued
their Heckler's detO, they sent their green hair septem piercing
mafia out to harass agents in Minneapolis, in Chicago, in
(04:40):
New Jersey and everywhere else Los Angeles, and then every
time they do that, some debacle happens, shocker, and then
we back off. And it seems to me like maybe
some folks in DHS are more worried about how it's
going to play to CNN, MSNBC in the shrieking lip
roles who are never going to vote Republican anyway, than
(05:02):
they are about the promise of mass deportation. So yeah,
very fired up about it. I think President Trump stepped in,
thank goodness, because he understands these things. He knows what
his base voted on, and even the ones that won't
admit it. You guys both know there are people that
won't admit that they want mass deportations because it doesn't
sound nice and our liberal mommy circles, but quietly they
(05:24):
want mass deportations. So I think the President was right
to reverse it. I don't know about the leadership of
Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen. I don't know if he's got
the stones to carry out mass deportations, but I hope
the message was sent loud and clear that this is
what we.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Want what do you think the President should say? Tonight?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
The duress is going to get a lot of attention.
There are reports that much of it has to do
with twenty twenty and the election fraud related to twenty twenty.
How's that going to play out midterms? Does it matter?
What do you expect? My general take? Tom He would
be and I bet Buck would sign off on this too.
That it's almost even if Trump showed up with dead
(06:06):
to rights evidence of explicit cheating, that is impossible to ignore.
The New York Times, CNN, MSNBC, all of these outlets
would just choose not to cover it, right, We'd all
be screaming on the side over here, Hey, hey, here's
all the evidence. They still wouldn't cover it, or they'd
still say he's lying. What do you think the impact
(06:27):
of tonight's going to be? What would you tell the president?
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Well?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I would say this, I'm just as upset about, you know,
any type of voter fraud, election fraud interference as the
next person. Obviously, that's why the Same of America Act
is so important to me. I'm not so sure relitigating
twenty twenty is the way to go if we want
to reltigate twenty twenty. Why doesn't someone go to prison
for the COVID scandemic? I mean, I guess for me,
(06:53):
I'm a little bit more fired of about that one,
you know, President Trump one in twenty twenty four. And also,
let's look ahead, you know, let's pass the Save America Act,
or at the very least, let's get some voter ID, right,
that would be great. Even if we had just voter ID,
something simple, incremental, you know, wins there. I'd be happy
with that. So I don't know what the speech is
going to be tonight. If it's just going to be hey,
(07:14):
I should have won in twenty twenty, I don't know
how that lands. I don't know how that fixes anything.
But if it's you know something too, this is why
we need to pass Save America Act, then you know
we're in the right vein. But I just think looking
towards the future is probably more helpful, especially as we
go into the midterms.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Tommy, how are you feeling about the Iran situation right
now with gas prices and everything else in Flux?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Well, I'll tell you this. I don't think that we
went into Iran because we wanted to or because it
was just for fun, or it was for President Trump's legacy.
I believe that we wouldn't Iran because we had to
for some you know, extreme purpose that we had to
prevent something massive from happening. That being said, I'm glad
(08:00):
that we're resuming strikes because I think the worst thing
that was happening was the couple of months where nothing
was happening and we just had the promises of a deal,
the promises of a memorandum. I mean, we reported on
it every single weekend, and I think that that left
a lot of people with false hope. And now it's
kind of like the Boy who Cried WOLFZ, Like, do
we have un understanding? Do we have a ceasefire? Are
(08:21):
we going to have diplomatic talks? Is the Strait going
to be open? So when you go back and forth
with people and people are, you know, especially those that
a lot of their family budget is reliant on what
the gas prices are, I think you just got to
play it straight with people and don't give them false
hope that you know, somehow the strait is going to
magically be open and it's going to stay open. We
(08:41):
haven't seen any evidence that it is so just play
it straight with people so they know what to expect,
so they don't get their hopes up. I think that
would be my take on it.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
We're talking to Tommy laierin Big weekend show on Fox
News OutKick Show as well, our friend, are you going
to go see the Odyssey? And but what has been your
take on the Elliott Ellen page revelations. We were talking
about this a little bit earlier, of him playing her
(09:11):
playing however you want to classify it a soldier and
running around in armor at five feet tall?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
What's going on here?
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Well?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I think that's embarrassing, and I think that there's definitely
some capitulation to the woke mob on some aspects of it.
You know, the way they're depicting Helen of Troy. I'm
not sure that's so accurate to you know, the actual
time period or the epic itself that I grew up
reading in school. I probably still go see it because
I love the Odyssey just what it represents, and at
(09:41):
part of my childhood we all had to read it,
you know, many times and watch the old movies. So
I'll probably go and see it. I'm hoping the woke
doesn't creep into the storyline. If it doesn't creep into
the storyline, I'm okay. If it's just they have the
woman who thinks she's a man, I can get beyond that.
I'm just hoping they didn't try to alter the the
actual storyline of the odyssey. That is my big hope,
(10:04):
and if they do, they'll pay for it.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Tommy Clay might have convinced the massive company paramount to
move to your shared at hometown with Nashville. That is
in progress right now. What do you think about nash
Vegas going from being just the country music capital of
the country to also the possibility here of it being
a major movie TV production hub And would there be
(10:28):
a Tommy Laren starring drama at some point if Clay
can make that happen.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Listen. I love when companies come to Tennessee because I
love the investment. But as Clay knows, we have already
a lot of Californians here. I don't know how many
Californians we can absorb at this point. I think we're
kind of saturated. I love the idea of entertainment coming here, though,
because I think it's just a natural transition. Austin has
become a comedy hub, and I think that Nashville could
(10:56):
be the next Hollywood. Georgia had it for a while.
I think it's much better in Nashville. I think Nashville
serves that purpose.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
But you know, as.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Clay knows, you drive around Tennessee and there's a lot
of Californians here. So let's see what it brings, right,
I don't know what Starbucks is going to bring. Are
they going to bring more liberals here? That's my concern.
I guess it's growing pains, But I don't know how
many more, you know, Californians, liberal minded folks we can absorb.
And I want to say this too. A lot of
(11:25):
people say, well, they're fleeing because they understand that their
state is run horribly. Yes, a lot of them are.
But I will say, and I don't know if Clay
has the same experience. I can say just from my neighborhood,
there are a lot of people who are conservative. Maybe
fiscally they don't want to pay the taxes in California,
they don't want to have the regulations on their businesses,
so in that mindset they are conservative. But like in
(11:47):
my neighborhood, I live in a gated community. There are
Californians that live in my community who say they're conservative,
they don't want security to carry a gun that makes
them nervous. Okay, so those are the same that I
have a little bit of trepidation about.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I want all my security with guns. Tommy.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You know, I had to move behind the gate because
of some of the craziness that's been going on, and
I want everybody around me with guns. So yeah, that
we don't want the Californians that are nervous about people
having guns. If that's you, you can stay in California,
or you can move to New York instead. What do
you expect Tommy? Here in Tennessee the voting. Early voting
(12:31):
starts tomorrow. Marsha Blackburn was on with US Tuesday. I
think she's expected to win as the next governor. She
fought the state income tax. It feels to me we're
gonna have nine Republicans representing the whole state that in
much of the state there is really good leadership.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I know.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I would say Floridians would say the same thing. I
think Texans largely would too, where we have no state
income tax. What do you expect from these elections that
are starting here in ten to see you on Friday.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Well, I've always liked Senator Marsha Blackburn. You know, she's
been a friend of mine for a long time, even
before I moved to Tennessee, so you know, she has
my support. I think what the sleeper issue might be,
and I still think Republicans are going to take everything.
This is Tennessee. I think the sleeper issue on some
of it, though, might be the data center stuff. I
think that that's going to have a bigger impact than
(13:23):
people understand. It's an area where the left has found
they can pull some from the right because a lot
of folks that are rule if they're Tennesseeans or wherever
they might be in this country, they're a little bit
anxious about the data centers and they keep putting them,
you know, usually obviously where the land is in the
rural areas, and people in Georgia and maybe in Tennessee
(13:45):
and some other places are a little nervous about that
people that are very conservative. So the data center issue
I think is going to be bigger than people think.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I can definitely see that drama starting to build this well,
by the way, Caroline Levitt at the Rosterum, returning from
having her second baby press conference underway right now, starting, Tommy,
keep up the good work. People watching on the weekend
and they can subscribe to your YouTube channel for your
OutKick show, which is doing fantastically well as well. What
(14:18):
else should they know from your perspective? How do they
find you?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Well, we're going to be I'll be heading to New York.
I have to leave a Tennessee as I always do,
heading to New York doing a little Outnumbered tomorrow, and
then of course we'll be on the big weekend show.
So we got the World Cup final on Sunday. That'll
be interesting, Clay.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I think I'm on with you. Yeah, I think I'm
on to World Cup Tommy. I feel like you're gonna
know this. Who's gonna win?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I promise you. I care not one bit about soccer,
so I couldn't even bananas. I'd rather watch the Savannah
Bananas play.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Tommy loves America too much to weigh in on argent
Uni versus Spain. This surprises nobody. Tommy, thank you for
being with us.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Talk to you soon.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I'll be on with Tommy on Sunday. So the Big
New the Big Big Weekend Show if you want to
watch that. I'm also on Big Noon on Fox Sports,
which is not too far away.
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Speaker 6 (16:48):
But he's here?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
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Speaker 5 (16:51):
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Well, this is just to be clear by the way
testas and replacement for hypogonadism, which is the medical term
for low T. This is this has been around for decades,
I don't know, forty fifty years now. It's a totally
it's a medical practice.
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This is not ether.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
That's that's necessary. We can talk more about this the
other side. Hormones for kids. That's crazy. That's a whole
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Speaker 2 (18:49):
Welcome back in Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
All right, I've already been going at it with Savannah
Bananas fans. Now the clock people are coming Buck. The
House of rep Representatives pasted overwhelmingly a bill that would
do away with changing the time once and for all,
and it is now potentially going to go to the Senate. Now,
(19:13):
getting Congress to pass anything is a big hurdle, so
I'm not sure that it's going to happen. But if
it were to happen, I think this would be absolutely fantastic.
I think changing the time is among the dumbest things
(19:34):
that we do in the country at all. And for
those of you have young kids, even when people say, oh,
you're gonna get more sleep when you fall back, the
kids are going to get up at the same exact
time that the kids have already gotten up. Always I
am in favor of having more daylight in the evenings.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
This to me is a no brainer. I live in Nashville, Tennessee. Buck.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
When it is four point thirty in December and early January.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
It is pitch black here. This is the work.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It is absolutely awful how early it gets dark in
much of the country because we're constantly shifting the times.
So I understand this is contentious and there are people
with very strong opinions, but those of you who are
opposed to more daylight in the evenings are completely and
utterly wrong. The actual vast majority of the population is
(20:33):
on my side here. But this is going to turn
into a absolute Donnie Brook if it happens because the
time I just don't think we should ever take.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Are you really solar trolling right now? You're solar trolling people.
This is what's going on here. You're using the sun
as a wedge issue to divide the American people.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I am in favor of later in the day sunshine
as opposed to early morning sunshine.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
And this is to me not even want to call.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I want to argue with you on this, but unfortunately
I would be exposed as a fraud because one of
the things that I having spent some time at it,
you woke up super early for all, so I used
to have to wait years at the CIA, I had
to wake up because our first meeting in the morning
was eight am, but that was like in office, in
your suit, in the you know, ready to ready to
do the whole Jack Ryan thing. So I had to leave,
(21:28):
you know, seven o'clock in the morning up at six
six thirty, which I know a lot of you are like,
that's not even early.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
That's actually pretty early, I think.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
But then when I did Rising at the Hill TV,
I did Clay. I remember I was doing five am
five thirty editorial call. Five am wake up for eighteen
months is absolutely brutal. I'm telling the story because I
hate waking up early in the morning. I wrote crew
in college waking up at four am to go practice
at five am. I hate waking up early in the morning,
(21:56):
so I would be exposed. I agree with you. I
think more daylight later in the day more important. I
think there's something particularly soul crushing for a lot of people,
especially in the more northern states, who leave their office
or they leave school at four o'clock five and it's
just pitch black outside and already really really cold. So
(22:16):
I am with you on this one. What I do
need to know is I had a hard time believing this.
Are they really leading it to individual states whether to
do the So we're all going to get rid of
the changing the clocks twice a year, but then we'd
have to all be on the same page for what
we're doing state by state.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
State by state, you can do it already because Arizona,
for instance, does not change the time. So states have
the ability to opt out of the what I'm saying,
it's a state by state opt out, is it? I
think the region I think this would federalize that we
don't change the law. I guess to your point, some state,
but if we don't ever change the time, they're not
(22:55):
going to opt in and change the time. So right
now there are parts of Indiana that do not do
It's very funny. I don't know what happened. It's not
even by state in Indiana. There are certain parts of
Indiana that just say, yeah, we're not changing time. It's
like kind of in the rural part of Indiana. I think,
I know, we have a huge audience people listening there.
(23:16):
I guess it's by county there because they have decided
not to do the whole state, but by county you
can make decisions the entire state of Arizona. Because we
air at different times of the year in Arizona, depending
on whether it's daylight savings or non daylight savings time.
But this would federalize it. So I think this would
(23:37):
make the standard. We never change the time. I guess
to your point, individual states could decide to change the time,
but that seems unlikely to me.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I also think it's amazing to see the fighting that
occurs over this, where instead of just saying I like
when I wake up in the morning and there's light,
or I want to leave work and there's more light,
people are like, but the car accidents in the morning
from the lack of light, and that it will be
worse than the car actsent. I mean, people get really
deep into this. Have you seen this is real? People
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argue about arguing about it all the time.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
People are like, oh, my kids are going to be
standing outside for the bus and it's going to be dark,
and it's like, okay, tough enough kids. I think most kids,
having been one at one point in time, uh, I
think most kids would prefer to come home in the
evening and be able to do something outdoors. And for
those teams guys and gals that are out there practicing
uh sports, I mean it's crazy sometimes that it is
(24:30):
dark here at four point thirty. So again, I don't
know if the Senate's going to be able to pass it,
but I think never changing the time again would make
a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
And I say that as a guy. We just agree
on that. I mean a pretty much ever agrees on that. Right.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
There's a that this that the the changing your clocks toy.
There's always things that it just strikes me that this is.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
This is idiotic, that there's no reason to be I'm
with you at one hundred percent, uh that changing the
time is absurd. And I say, this is a guy.
To your point, you was talking about getting up early
for five years. I got up in the you know,
four thirty four twenty and I was live on the
radio at five am Central. I did East Coast morning
radio from Nashville. So my show, thought of you listen
(25:11):
from five to eight am Central time, six to nine
am on the East coast, three to six am on
the West coast. I remember, Buck. One of the craziest
ones was I did my show from Vegas multiple times.
Vegas is an amazing place to be walking outside to
go get in a car at two thirty in the morning,
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to start your day.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Right, Like everybody has wasted.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Everybody's been gambling all hours and I'm just going out
to get into a car to go do my show
live from three to six am Pacific. I will also
give a shout out to the Franklin, Tennessee Police Department
who early on recognized that I was not coming home
from the bar at early in the morning, or had
it been finishing a long night.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
When I was dry through town.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I was on my way to go do radio because
there's hardly anybody on the road, and you know, the
police are out there working, and a lot of the
people you would imagine that are coming through at four
fifteen in the morning are are finished and awful late
night as opposed to starting an early morning, so they
got used to this.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Can I just give you a little bit of the heat,
the heat that this issue brings you go online, you
start looking around people say that that the sleep loss
from the forward shift is linked to increased heart attack, stroke,
workplace injuries, traffic fatalities.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
This is what you would think.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
This is a I mean, pick one or the other, right,
Like you got to draw the line somewhere. People are
super passionate on this issue in a way that I'll
be honest with you. I never really dove into it before,
but now that I've looked at it, I am I
am shocked.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
People are fired up about this. We're gonna eight hundred
and two A two two eight A two. We can
get to your talkbacks too, By the way, Buck, I
want to play this talkback. Josh in Youngstown, Ohio. He's
coming for us. You and I both said that a
fanny pack is defensible to wear. And this is this
is as a dad or a concealed carry individually. Yes,
(27:24):
absolutely absolutely. My wife is has argued for some time
that the fanny pack was unfairly maligned and should be
brought back as a fashion accessory. Josh in Youngstown, Ohio,
News Radio five seventy w KBN.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
He does not agree. Cut d Ai, guys, I.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
Gotta chime in here. There is absolutely no excuse for
a man to have a fanny pack, dad or not,
or especially a merse. Merse is absolutely unacceptable, But fanny
packs either absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
I'm gonna tell you I would agree with them. We're
not talking merse, all right, We're not. This is not
no there are rules. We're talking fanny pack. Okay, so
with the merse that's a whole other thing. And the
crossbody for guys, no, I'm sorry, is that it's like
walking around with an EU passport on your forehead. Okay,
no American should be doing the cross body. American man
(28:24):
should be doing the cross body bag. But the fanny pack, man,
I'm telling you, Clay, the fanny pack.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Is a very useful tool.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
It's well placed, it's comfortable, especially in the hot weather.
It's a great place to have your concealed carry piece.
I might add great place you can get out of
the fanny pack very quickly.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I will say unexpected if you get gunned down by
a guy pulling the gun out of the fanny pack.
But yeah, that's like I would. I would not surmise,
just maybe other people disagree. If I see a guy
walking around in a fanny pack, I'm not expecting him
whip out a gun and just wipe somebody out. I
think that's an unexpected accessory to have in the fanny pack.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Oh, I told you.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I had my older brother and his he had a
Pomeranian sadly passed a year ago, but he had a Pomeranian,
which is a small, cute, fluffy dog and he had
a Pomeranian carry bag. He had a cig and like
three magazine.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I remember that. I remember this.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
He kicked coffee and he's just walking around ready to
wipe people out with his.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Little, uh little dog. That that uh, that Pomeranian bag
was an action bag. That's what he was ready to go.
I'll tell you guys this, we really should. We need
to get like a H A U fanny pack sponsor
at this point, because you know we'll start rocking those
fanny packs. We got to find somebody makes a great
all purpose fanny pack, but maybe also for the concealed carry.
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It's got a little bit of a an edge on
that one. I'm telling you people love it well.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Clay Let's cap. We got it.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
We're innnated now, calls, talkbacks, everything else you have. You
have kicked the hornet's nest. But my question is did
you kick it in daylight or in darkness?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Tough to know.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Well in daylight, because at least you could then flee
the hornets and know where they were, whereas in darkness
you would just be stung, stung, stung, like poor what's
the m Macaulay Culkin character back in the day.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
So sad it is my girl tough. Yeah, that's rough.
I had something.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Really, I'm gonna take you in a fun place now
because Clay just went full wampwomp on you. You know
what I was doing today. I've got We've got an
external freezer. Now we've gone to that level here in
the Sexton household where we keep our meats and our proteins,
because I want the best stuff and I want to
have it on hand. And I was just stacking up
my Good Ranchers in my my external freezer, you know,
(30:43):
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Speaker 7 (31:40):
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Speaker 2 (31:51):
Oh boy. People feel very.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Passionate, very passionate, people saying's going to happen, Extremely passionate
about the daylight savings. It's a beauty daylight savings. You
get at an hour. You gotta subtract an hour. You
don't know, you don't know we'll look at this. We'll
look at this, and that's what we will do. Right now.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Steven in Westchester County, New York.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Wait, what what does he want to talk about? He's
a caller right now? All right, let's yeah, he got
through producer Greg. You must have something to say. What's up, Stephen?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Hey, guys, I love the job. You two guys are
doing your amazing. You might want to go and look
at something online called the Day of two Noons, which
was back in November eighteenth of eighteen eighty three when
the country was put on standard time. And the reason
for that was that some states had an effect three
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different time zones or more and it made rail travel
practically impossible. So in New York City they stopped the
clocks for five minutes so the sun could move to
I think it was a seventy sixth meridian or something
like that, and then they had a second noon on
the same day.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
So that that is super fascinating. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
A lot of people have asked how did we end?
This is something I care about, the time zone situation.
I've thought about it a lot. You and I both
travel quite a lot, and I've spent a ton of
time in California as a part of my career. Obviously
we run this show. I'm in the Central time zone,
but if you were in my studio, I have a
(33:32):
big clock on East Coast time. For what we do,
we're booking guests all across the country at all times,
so you got Mountain Pacific Central time, East Coast time.
It's something that we focus on a lot. Time was
standardized because of the railroads prior to I mean you
think about it, prior to the train coming through, you
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didn't have to worry that much about the hour of
the day in a significant fashion because as long as
the time was consistent within fifty miles pretty much of
any area, that's about how much people would travel right
at the top end, and so you didn't have to
worry that much about where exactly the clock was or
how to standardize it. The railroads is the reason we
(34:15):
ended up with time zones and a standardization of time
in general, because you had to sink it so you
knew what time and theory the train was going to
be showing up.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
You know, it's a shame, but in the Old West
they didn't actually have gunfights at high noon. You knew
when they had gunfights, when people were ticked off at each.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Other and said, you know, draw so that the whole time, I'll.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
See you at high noon. It's like, actually you cheated
at cards, I'm pulling my six shooter. So hate to
burst anyone's bubble, but high noon is not really a
was not really much of a thing.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
By the way, breaking news buck. In addition to all
of this going on, the New York Post has just
reported that Senator Rubin Gago of Arizona, one of the
swing state senators, that he had sexual relationships with two
different House staffers.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Married guy.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
This could turn into another sex related scandal issue.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
You gotta asked the question, got asked the question, does
it say his staffers or other staffers for you to
see what I'm saying, because they're going to get that
right now. That's a big distinction, right because if they're
if they're in your immediate chain of command, and that's
clear sexual harassment, it's going to be a violation of
House rules. Obviously, I understand he's married and everything else.
(35:37):
I'm just looking at how this will play in the media.
Is this big enough that it will cost him his His.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Political Reports are that this was somebody else's staffers that
he was sleeping with. So Democrats are going to end
up in an interesting, uh interesting spot, and uh we
will see how this shakes out. But again, this is
just the New York Post reporting this just in the
last couple of minutes. Gay Go's office and the House
(36:06):
staffers have not responded, So we'll see whether or not
these turn into turns into a mess.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
But that just coming down obviously, the Grand Platnir.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Fallout, the Eric Swallwell fallout for Democrats not over right now,
and we will see how this shakes out. Loaded lines.
We'll get to a bunch of these in the third hour.
Just know that if you are in favor of darkness
in the evening, you are wrong and we are right.
(36:38):
But we will still take all your calls in your
angry talkbacks. Thanks for hanging with us here on Play
Him Buck
Welcome back in Clay and Buck. Hour number two. We're
rolling through the program. Appreciate all of you hanging out
with us. We are scheduled to be joined by Tommy
Larin of OutKick and also the Big Fox Weekend Show
where she's on six hours every weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
She does a lot.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Want to encourage all of you to go check out
our YouTube page where you can watch now all three
hours of the program, including Tommy who's about to be
on with us right now, and you can comment and
if you go to the live tab you can find
us there. We're continuing to refine and experiment experiment with that,
(00:39):
but Buck, already we're getting thousands of people watching live
every single day, which is a nice way to continue
to grow this audience. We love everybody on AMFM, We
love all of you watching right now on YouTube, serious
satellite radio, everybody out there, and Tommy Laren joins us
now and Tommy just check it. In my mentions, I
(01:02):
was making fun of the Savannah Bananas SB opening act,
and the Savannah Bananas community has has come after me
in all their glory in the comments, which is actually
very very funny. Uh, your husband is a major league
baseball former player and a coach. So you had the
(01:23):
Savannah bananas back in this in this great in Brolio
that has uh has broken out online. So anybody who
wants to be entertained by the comments the Savannah banana
community is coming after me.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
But Tommy, there's a lot to get into. Let's start
off with you. I feel like I'm seeing you up
very well here. Pete Hegseat says that they are going
to be testosterone level checks now for troops. What do
you think the testosterone level is of the average Democrat
voting mail in America?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Well, listen, I don't know, like the hormonal imbalances, right,
you know, that's not really my wheelhouse. So I just
go off of you know, my observations. Right, But you've
said it before and I wholeheartedly agree with you. The
Democrat men, you know, they don't really scream manly, and
then they try to find one that they think reads
manly because you know, he has a beard and he
(02:20):
wears overalls, and Platner's the best they could do. Because
for them, it's like if we just have somebody who
looks a little bit less meek and feminine, then people
will think that we are the masculine party, and then
they pick Graham Platner, who fantasizes about porter potties. So
I don't think they have any understanding on the left
(02:40):
about what masculinity is. I don't think they know what
it looks like, what it sounds like. I certainly think
they don't understand the hormonal imbalances if if that's part
of the problem here, and they still struggle to do that.
So I don't think there's any hope they're going to
find it before twenty twenty six or twenty twenty eight.
I haven't seen any convincing evidence that they know what
it even is.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
So, Tommy, one thing I wanted to talk to you about,
other than the sadness that Brian Stelter and so many
other men of the left wing media are going to
have now that we have a high TRT DoD situation
playing out, but seriously, on the issue of deportations and immigration,
I saw and I agreed with your sense. I saw
(03:23):
your frustration that we were making a concession to the
lunatic left, you know, attack ice maniacs by not doing
I'm sure you've seen now Trump has flipped that around.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
That's a step in the right direction. But how are
you feeling.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
You've been on the border issue very closely for a
long time, and I know you've been down there a
bunch of times. How are you feeling about the promises made,
promises kept aspect of Trump two point zero on deportation specifically.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well, so, I don't think this is actually President Trump, right.
I think he's got some folks that perhaps maybe you're
in his ear, or maybe you're doing what they want
to do. I don't know the intricacies of all of that.
I'm out in these rooms, but I firmly believe that
President Trump won in twenty sixteen and in twenty twenty
four based almost entirely on his immigration stamps and on
mass deportations. These people that are trying to revise history
(04:16):
saying that he was only going to deport the so
called worst of the worst, we're not paying attention. I
watched every single rally. I was promised the largest mass
deportation effort in history, and I believe that that's what
it started out as. And then the left they issued
their Heckler's detO, they sent their green hair septem piercing
mafia out to harass agents in Minneapolis, in Chicago, in
(04:40):
New Jersey and everywhere else Los Angeles, and then every
time they do that, some debacle happens, shocker, and then
we back off. And it seems to me like maybe
some folks in DHS are more worried about how it's
going to play to CNN, MSNBC in the shrieking lip
roles who are never going to vote Republican anyway, than
(05:02):
they are about the promise of mass deportation. So yeah,
very fired up about it. I think President Trump stepped in,
thank goodness, because he understands these things. He knows what
his base voted on, and even the ones that won't
admit it. You guys both know there are people that
won't admit that they want mass deportations because it doesn't
sound nice and our liberal mommy circles, but quietly they
(05:24):
want mass deportations. So I think the President was right
to reverse it. I don't know about the leadership of
Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen. I don't know if he's got
the stones to carry out mass deportations, but I hope
the message was sent loud and clear that this is
what we.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Want what do you think the President should say? Tonight?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
The duress is going to get a lot of attention.
There are reports that much of it has to do
with twenty twenty and the election fraud related to twenty twenty.
How's that going to play out midterms? Does it matter?
What do you expect? My general take? Tom He would
be and I bet Buck would sign off on this too.
That it's almost even if Trump showed up with dead
(06:06):
to rights evidence of explicit cheating, that is impossible to ignore.
The New York Times, CNN, MSNBC, all of these outlets
would just choose not to cover it, right, We'd all
be screaming on the side over here, Hey, hey, here's
all the evidence. They still wouldn't cover it, or they'd
still say he's lying. What do you think the impact
(06:27):
of tonight's going to be? What would you tell the president?
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Well?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I would say this, I'm just as upset about, you know,
any type of voter fraud, election fraud interference as the
next person. Obviously, that's why the Same of America Act
is so important to me. I'm not so sure relitigating
twenty twenty is the way to go if we want
to reltigate twenty twenty. Why doesn't someone go to prison
for the COVID scandemic? I mean, I guess for me,
(06:53):
I'm a little bit more fired of about that one,
you know, President Trump one in twenty twenty four. And also,
let's look ahead, you know, let's pass the Save America Act,
or at the very least, let's get some voter ID, right,
that would be great. Even if we had just voter ID,
something simple, incremental, you know, wins there. I'd be happy
with that. So I don't know what the speech is
going to be tonight. If it's just going to be hey,
(07:14):
I should have won in twenty twenty, I don't know
how that lands. I don't know how that fixes anything.
But if it's you know something too, this is why
we need to pass Save America Act, then you know
we're in the right vein. But I just think looking
towards the future is probably more helpful, especially as we
go into the midterms.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Tommy, how are you feeling about the Iran situation right
now with gas prices and everything else in Flux?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Well, I'll tell you this. I don't think that we
went into Iran because we wanted to or because it
was just for fun, or it was for President Trump's legacy.
I believe that we wouldn't Iran because we had to
for some you know, extreme purpose that we had to
prevent something massive from happening. That being said, I'm glad
(08:00):
that we're resuming strikes because I think the worst thing
that was happening was the couple of months where nothing
was happening and we just had the promises of a deal,
the promises of a memorandum. I mean, we reported on
it every single weekend, and I think that that left
a lot of people with false hope. And now it's
kind of like the Boy who Cried WOLFZ, Like, do
we have un understanding? Do we have a ceasefire? Are
(08:21):
we going to have diplomatic talks? Is the Strait going
to be open? So when you go back and forth
with people and people are, you know, especially those that
a lot of their family budget is reliant on what
the gas prices are, I think you just got to
play it straight with people and don't give them false
hope that you know, somehow the strait is going to
magically be open and it's going to stay open. We
(08:41):
haven't seen any evidence that it is so just play
it straight with people so they know what to expect,
so they don't get their hopes up. I think that
would be my take on it.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
We're talking to Tommy laierin Big weekend show on Fox
News OutKick Show as well, our friend, are you going
to go see the Odyssey? And but what has been your
take on the Elliott Ellen page revelations. We were talking
about this a little bit earlier, of him playing her
(09:11):
playing however you want to classify it a soldier and
running around in armor at five feet tall?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
What's going on here?
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Well?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I think that's embarrassing, and I think that there's definitely
some capitulation to the woke mob on some aspects of it.
You know, the way they're depicting Helen of Troy. I'm
not sure that's so accurate to you know, the actual
time period or the epic itself that I grew up
reading in school. I probably still go see it because
I love the Odyssey just what it represents, and at
(09:41):
part of my childhood we all had to read it,
you know, many times and watch the old movies. So
I'll probably go and see it. I'm hoping the woke
doesn't creep into the storyline. If it doesn't creep into
the storyline, I'm okay. If it's just they have the
woman who thinks she's a man, I can get beyond that.
I'm just hoping they didn't try to alter the the
actual storyline of the odyssey. That is my big hope,
(10:04):
and if they do, they'll pay for it.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Tommy Clay might have convinced the massive company paramount to
move to your shared at hometown with Nashville. That is
in progress right now. What do you think about nash
Vegas going from being just the country music capital of
the country to also the possibility here of it being
a major movie TV production hub And would there be
(10:28):
a Tommy Laren starring drama at some point if Clay
can make that happen.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Listen. I love when companies come to Tennessee because I
love the investment. But as Clay knows, we have already
a lot of Californians here. I don't know how many
Californians we can absorb at this point. I think we're
kind of saturated. I love the idea of entertainment coming here, though,
because I think it's just a natural transition. Austin has
become a comedy hub, and I think that Nashville could
(10:56):
be the next Hollywood. Georgia had it for a while.
I think it's much better in Nashville. I think Nashville
serves that purpose.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
But you know, as.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Clay knows, you drive around Tennessee and there's a lot
of Californians here. So let's see what it brings, right,
I don't know what Starbucks is going to bring. Are
they going to bring more liberals here? That's my concern.
I guess it's growing pains, But I don't know how
many more, you know, Californians, liberal minded folks we can absorb.
And I want to say this too. A lot of
(11:25):
people say, well, they're fleeing because they understand that their
state is run horribly. Yes, a lot of them are.
But I will say, and I don't know if Clay
has the same experience. I can say just from my neighborhood,
there are a lot of people who are conservative. Maybe
fiscally they don't want to pay the taxes in California,
they don't want to have the regulations on their businesses,
so in that mindset they are conservative. But like in
(11:47):
my neighborhood, I live in a gated community. There are
Californians that live in my community who say they're conservative,
they don't want security to carry a gun that makes
them nervous. Okay, so those are the same that I
have a little bit of trepidation about.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I want all my security with guns. Tommy.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You know, I had to move behind the gate because
of some of the craziness that's been going on, and
I want everybody around me with guns. So yeah, that
we don't want the Californians that are nervous about people
having guns. If that's you, you can stay in California,
or you can move to New York instead. What do
you expect Tommy? Here in Tennessee the voting. Early voting
(12:31):
starts tomorrow. Marsha Blackburn was on with US Tuesday. I
think she's expected to win as the next governor. She
fought the state income tax. It feels to me we're
gonna have nine Republicans representing the whole state that in
much of the state there is really good leadership.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I know.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I would say Floridians would say the same thing. I
think Texans largely would too, where we have no state
income tax. What do you expect from these elections that
are starting here in ten to see you on Friday.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Well, I've always liked Senator Marsha Blackburn. You know, she's
been a friend of mine for a long time, even
before I moved to Tennessee, so you know, she has
my support. I think what the sleeper issue might be,
and I still think Republicans are going to take everything.
This is Tennessee. I think the sleeper issue on some
of it, though, might be the data center stuff. I
think that that's going to have a bigger impact than
(13:23):
people understand. It's an area where the left has found
they can pull some from the right because a lot
of folks that are rule if they're Tennesseeans or wherever
they might be in this country, they're a little bit
anxious about the data centers and they keep putting them,
you know, usually obviously where the land is in the
rural areas, and people in Georgia and maybe in Tennessee
(13:45):
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people that are very conservative. So the data center issue
I think is going to be bigger than people think.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I can definitely see that drama starting to build this well,
by the way, Caroline Levitt at the Rosterum, returning from
having her second baby press conference underway right now, starting, Tommy,
keep up the good work. People watching on the weekend
and they can subscribe to your YouTube channel for your
OutKick show, which is doing fantastically well as well. What
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else should they know from your perspective? How do they
find you?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Well, we're going to be I'll be heading to New York.
I have to leave a Tennessee as I always do,
heading to New York doing a little Outnumbered tomorrow, and
then of course we'll be on the big weekend show.
So we got the World Cup final on Sunday. That'll
be interesting, Clay.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I think I'm on with you. Yeah, I think I'm
on to World Cup Tommy. I feel like you're gonna
know this. Who's gonna win?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I promise you. I care not one bit about soccer,
so I couldn't even bananas. I'd rather watch the Savannah
Bananas play.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Tommy loves America too much to weigh in on argent
Uni versus Spain. This surprises nobody. Tommy, thank you for
being with us.
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Talk to you soon.
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Speaker 6 (16:48):
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Oh there he is. Talk to us, buddy, We got
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Go for it, Bill, Hey, going back to talking about Pete. Hey,
if these live social tards want to let the kids
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of the sword take something to make myself better?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Well, this is just to be clear by the way
testas and replacement for hypogonadism, which is the medical term
for low T. This is this has been around for decades,
I don't know, forty fifty years now. It's a totally
it's a medical practice.
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This is not ether.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
That's that's necessary. We can talk more about this the
other side. Hormones for kids. That's crazy. That's a whole
other thing to try to do transgender stuff. Clay, Yeah,
no doubt.
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Speaker 2 (18:49):
Welcome back in Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
All right, I've already been going at it with Savannah
Bananas fans. Now the clock people are coming Buck. The
House of rep Representatives pasted overwhelmingly a bill that would
do away with changing the time once and for all,
and it is now potentially going to go to the Senate. Now,
(19:13):
getting Congress to pass anything is a big hurdle, so
I'm not sure that it's going to happen. But if
it were to happen, I think this would be absolutely fantastic.
I think changing the time is among the dumbest things
(19:34):
that we do in the country at all. And for
those of you have young kids, even when people say, oh,
you're gonna get more sleep when you fall back, the
kids are going to get up at the same exact
time that the kids have already gotten up. Always I
am in favor of having more daylight in the evenings.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
This to me is a no brainer. I live in Nashville, Tennessee. Buck.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
When it is four point thirty in December and early January.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
It is pitch black here. This is the work.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It is absolutely awful how early it gets dark in
much of the country because we're constantly shifting the times.
So I understand this is contentious and there are people
with very strong opinions, but those of you who are
opposed to more daylight in the evenings are completely and
utterly wrong. The actual vast majority of the population is
(20:33):
on my side here. But this is going to turn
into a absolute Donnie Brook if it happens because the
time I just don't think we should ever take.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Are you really solar trolling right now? You're solar trolling people.
This is what's going on here. You're using the sun
as a wedge issue to divide the American people.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I am in favor of later in the day sunshine
as opposed to early morning sunshine.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
And this is to me not even want to call.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I want to argue with you on this, but unfortunately
I would be exposed as a fraud because one of
the things that I having spent some time at it,
you woke up super early for all, so I used
to have to wait years at the CIA, I had
to wake up because our first meeting in the morning
was eight am, but that was like in office, in
your suit, in the you know, ready to ready to
do the whole Jack Ryan thing. So I had to leave,
(21:28):
you know, seven o'clock in the morning up at six
six thirty, which I know a lot of you are like,
that's not even early.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
That's actually pretty early, I think.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
But then when I did Rising at the Hill TV,
I did Clay. I remember I was doing five am
five thirty editorial call. Five am wake up for eighteen
months is absolutely brutal. I'm telling the story because I
hate waking up early in the morning. I wrote crew
in college waking up at four am to go practice
at five am. I hate waking up early in the morning,
(21:56):
so I would be exposed. I agree with you. I
think more daylight later in the day more important. I
think there's something particularly soul crushing for a lot of people,
especially in the more northern states, who leave their office
or they leave school at four o'clock five and it's
just pitch black outside and already really really cold. So
(22:16):
I am with you on this one. What I do
need to know is I had a hard time believing this.
Are they really leading it to individual states whether to
do the So we're all going to get rid of
the changing the clocks twice a year, but then we'd
have to all be on the same page for what
we're doing state by state.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
State by state, you can do it already because Arizona,
for instance, does not change the time. So states have
the ability to opt out of the what I'm saying,
it's a state by state opt out, is it? I
think the region I think this would federalize that we
don't change the law. I guess to your point, some state,
but if we don't ever change the time, they're not
(22:55):
going to opt in and change the time. So right
now there are parts of Indiana that do not do
It's very funny. I don't know what happened. It's not
even by state in Indiana. There are certain parts of
Indiana that just say, yeah, we're not changing time. It's
like kind of in the rural part of Indiana. I think,
I know, we have a huge audience people listening there.
(23:16):
I guess it's by county there because they have decided
not to do the whole state, but by county you
can make decisions the entire state of Arizona. Because we
air at different times of the year in Arizona, depending
on whether it's daylight savings or non daylight savings time.
But this would federalize it. So I think this would
(23:37):
make the standard. We never change the time. I guess
to your point, individual states could decide to change the time,
but that seems unlikely to me.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I also think it's amazing to see the fighting that
occurs over this, where instead of just saying I like
when I wake up in the morning and there's light,
or I want to leave work and there's more light,
people are like, but the car accidents in the morning
from the lack of light, and that it will be
worse than the car actsent. I mean, people get really
deep into this. Have you seen this is real? People
(24:06):
argue about arguing about it all the time.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
People are like, oh, my kids are going to be
standing outside for the bus and it's going to be dark,
and it's like, okay, tough enough kids. I think most kids,
having been one at one point in time, uh, I
think most kids would prefer to come home in the
evening and be able to do something outdoors. And for
those teams guys and gals that are out there practicing
uh sports, I mean it's crazy sometimes that it is
(24:30):
dark here at four point thirty. So again, I don't
know if the Senate's going to be able to pass it,
but I think never changing the time again would make
a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
And I say that as a guy. We just agree
on that. I mean a pretty much ever agrees on that. Right.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
There's a that this that the the changing your clocks toy.
There's always things that it just strikes me that this is.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
This is idiotic, that there's no reason to be I'm
with you at one hundred percent, uh that changing the
time is absurd. And I say, this is a guy.
To your point, you was talking about getting up early
for five years. I got up in the you know,
four thirty four twenty and I was live on the
radio at five am Central. I did East Coast morning
radio from Nashville. So my show, thought of you listen
(25:11):
from five to eight am Central time, six to nine
am on the East coast, three to six am on
the West coast. I remember, Buck. One of the craziest
ones was I did my show from Vegas multiple times.
Vegas is an amazing place to be walking outside to
go get in a car at two thirty in the morning,
(25:33):
to start your day.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Right, Like everybody has wasted.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Everybody's been gambling all hours and I'm just going out
to get into a car to go do my show
live from three to six am Pacific. I will also
give a shout out to the Franklin, Tennessee Police Department
who early on recognized that I was not coming home
from the bar at early in the morning, or had
it been finishing a long night.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
When I was dry through town.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I was on my way to go do radio because
there's hardly anybody on the road, and you know, the
police are out there working, and a lot of the
people you would imagine that are coming through at four
fifteen in the morning are are finished and awful late
night as opposed to starting an early morning, so they
got used to this.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Can I just give you a little bit of the heat,
the heat that this issue brings you go online, you
start looking around people say that that the sleep loss
from the forward shift is linked to increased heart attack, stroke,
workplace injuries, traffic fatalities.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
This is what you would think.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
This is a I mean, pick one or the other, right,
Like you got to draw the line somewhere. People are
super passionate on this issue in a way that I'll
be honest with you. I never really dove into it before,
but now that I've looked at it, I am I
am shocked.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
People are fired up about this. We're gonna eight hundred
and two A two two eight A two. We can
get to your talkbacks too, By the way, Buck, I
want to play this talkback. Josh in Youngstown, Ohio. He's
coming for us. You and I both said that a
fanny pack is defensible to wear. And this is this
is as a dad or a concealed carry individually. Yes,
(27:24):
absolutely absolutely. My wife is has argued for some time
that the fanny pack was unfairly maligned and should be
brought back as a fashion accessory. Josh in Youngstown, Ohio,
News Radio five seventy w KBN.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
He does not agree. Cut d Ai, guys, I.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
Gotta chime in here. There is absolutely no excuse for
a man to have a fanny pack, dad or not,
or especially a merse. Merse is absolutely unacceptable, But fanny
packs either absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
I'm gonna tell you I would agree with them. We're
not talking merse, all right, We're not. This is not
no there are rules. We're talking fanny pack. Okay, so
with the merse that's a whole other thing. And the
crossbody for guys, no, I'm sorry, is that it's like
walking around with an EU passport on your forehead. Okay,
no American should be doing the cross body. American man
(28:24):
should be doing the cross body bag. But the fanny pack, man,
I'm telling you, Clay, the fanny pack.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Is a very useful tool.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
It's well placed, it's comfortable, especially in the hot weather.
It's a great place to have your concealed carry piece.
I might add great place you can get out of
the fanny pack very quickly.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I will say unexpected if you get gunned down by
a guy pulling the gun out of the fanny pack.
But yeah, that's like I would. I would not surmise,
just maybe other people disagree. If I see a guy
walking around in a fanny pack, I'm not expecting him
whip out a gun and just wipe somebody out. I
think that's an unexpected accessory to have in the fanny pack.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Oh, I told you.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I had my older brother and his he had a
Pomeranian sadly passed a year ago, but he had a Pomeranian,
which is a small, cute, fluffy dog and he had
a Pomeranian carry bag. He had a cig and like
three magazine.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I remember that. I remember this.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
He kicked coffee and he's just walking around ready to
wipe people out with his.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Little, uh little dog. That that uh, that Pomeranian bag
was an action bag. That's what he was ready to go.
I'll tell you guys this, we really should. We need
to get like a H A U fanny pack sponsor
at this point, because you know we'll start rocking those
fanny packs. We got to find somebody makes a great
all purpose fanny pack, but maybe also for the concealed carry.
(29:47):
It's got a little bit of a an edge on
that one. I'm telling you people love it well.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Clay Let's cap. We got it.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
We're innnated now, calls, talkbacks, everything else you have. You
have kicked the hornet's nest. But my question is did
you kick it in daylight or in darkness?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Tough to know.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Well in daylight, because at least you could then flee
the hornets and know where they were, whereas in darkness
you would just be stung, stung, stung, like poor what's
the m Macaulay Culkin character back in the day.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
So sad it is my girl tough. Yeah, that's rough.
I had something.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Really, I'm gonna take you in a fun place now
because Clay just went full wampwomp on you. You know
what I was doing today. I've got We've got an
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the Sexton household where we keep our meats and our proteins,
because I want the best stuff and I want to
have it on hand. And I was just stacking up
my Good Ranchers in my my external freezer, you know,
(30:43):
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Speaker 2 (31:51):
Oh boy. People feel very.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Passionate, very passionate, people saying's going to happen, Extremely passionate
about the daylight savings. It's a beauty daylight savings. You
get at an hour. You gotta subtract an hour. You
don't know, you don't know we'll look at this. We'll
look at this, and that's what we will do. Right now.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Steven in Westchester County, New York.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Wait, what what does he want to talk about? He's
a caller right now? All right, let's yeah, he got
through producer Greg. You must have something to say. What's up, Stephen?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Hey, guys, I love the job. You two guys are
doing your amazing. You might want to go and look
at something online called the Day of two Noons, which
was back in November eighteenth of eighteen eighty three when
the country was put on standard time. And the reason
for that was that some states had an effect three
(32:48):
different time zones or more and it made rail travel
practically impossible. So in New York City they stopped the
clocks for five minutes so the sun could move to
I think it was a seventy sixth meridian or something
like that, and then they had a second noon on
the same day.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
So that that is super fascinating. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
A lot of people have asked how did we end?
This is something I care about, the time zone situation.
I've thought about it a lot. You and I both
travel quite a lot, and I've spent a ton of
time in California as a part of my career. Obviously
we run this show. I'm in the Central time zone,
but if you were in my studio, I have a
(33:32):
big clock on East Coast time. For what we do,
we're booking guests all across the country at all times,
so you got Mountain Pacific Central time, East Coast time.
It's something that we focus on a lot. Time was
standardized because of the railroads prior to I mean you
think about it, prior to the train coming through, you
(33:53):
didn't have to worry that much about the hour of
the day in a significant fashion because as long as
the time was consistent within fifty miles pretty much of
any area, that's about how much people would travel right
at the top end, and so you didn't have to
worry that much about where exactly the clock was or
how to standardize it. The railroads is the reason we
(34:15):
ended up with time zones and a standardization of time
in general, because you had to sink it so you
knew what time and theory the train was going to
be showing up.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
You know, it's a shame, but in the Old West
they didn't actually have gunfights at high noon. You knew
when they had gunfights, when people were ticked off at each.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Other and said, you know, draw so that the whole time, I'll.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
See you at high noon. It's like, actually you cheated
at cards, I'm pulling my six shooter. So hate to
burst anyone's bubble, but high noon is not really a
was not really much of a thing.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
By the way, breaking news buck. In addition to all
of this going on, the New York Post has just
reported that Senator Rubin Gago of Arizona, one of the
swing state senators, that he had sexual relationships with two
different House staffers.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Married guy.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
This could turn into another sex related scandal issue.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
You gotta asked the question, got asked the question, does
it say his staffers or other staffers for you to
see what I'm saying, because they're going to get that
right now. That's a big distinction, right because if they're
if they're in your immediate chain of command, and that's
clear sexual harassment, it's going to be a violation of
House rules. Obviously, I understand he's married and everything else.
(35:37):
I'm just looking at how this will play in the media.
Is this big enough that it will cost him his His.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Political Reports are that this was somebody else's staffers that
he was sleeping with. So Democrats are going to end
up in an interesting, uh interesting spot, and uh we
will see how this shakes out. But again, this is
just the New York Post reporting this just in the
last couple of minutes. Gay Go's office and the House
(36:06):
staffers have not responded, So we'll see whether or not
these turn into turns into a mess.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
But that just coming down obviously, the Grand Platnir.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Fallout, the Eric Swallwell fallout for Democrats not over right now,
and we will see how this shakes out. Loaded lines.
We'll get to a bunch of these in the third hour.
Just know that if you are in favor of darkness
in the evening, you are wrong and we are right.
(36:38):
But we will still take all your calls in your
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