September 13, 2024 • 36 mins
CNN reports Kamala's internal polls show Trump ahead. New polls show tight race in Michigan, Dems fight to keep RFK on the ballot. Stephen Miller vs. reporter on Venezuelan gangs. Merrick Garland denies Biden-Harris DOJ has been weaponized. VIP emails.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in hour number two, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
You can take the.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Program with you anywhere you may be headed in the world. Okay,
I mentioned a couple of different things that I wanted
to hit you with. Let me tell you, by the way,
We've got a couple of guests coming up next hour.
We're going to talk with Sam Brown, who is the
Senate candidate for the Republican Party in Nevada, battleground state
out there that is basically dead even between Trump and
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Kamala and we're going to talk with Sam Brown out there.
Also Kurt Cameron, legendary I think it's fair to say
Star of Growing Pains will be with us at two thirty,
both of those guests in the final hour. All right, Buck,
We have been talking quite a lot about the situation
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in the Midwest, not only in Pennsylvania, where you can
begin voting next week. I mean, that's crazy. We basically
have fifty days of voting that's going to be going
on in Pennsylvania, which is probably the biggest and most
important battleground state of them all. And we encourage you
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on this program to vote early because as soon as
you bank your ballot, that allows the outreach for the
Trump team to focus on other voters that they believe
are likely to support them that may not have done so.
I understand that a lot of you want to wait
until election day. I've traditionally been an election day voter
as well, because I love the feel of going into
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vote on election day.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I'm voting the.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Absolute first day that I can in the state of Tennessee,
which is October sixteenth. I'm getting my ballot taken care of,
I'm walking in, I'm early voting Trump Blackburn, Mark Green
is my congressman. Boom boom boom, So you know, how
I'm voting in President, Senate, and Congress. I'll be done,
and then I'm going to continue to encourage all of
you to go out in early vote. But there is
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a battle right now in Michigan that could be very consequential,
and I want to share those details with you. But
first I want to tell you about a story posted
by CNN today that is I think very important because
it gives you an idea of what the Kamala teams
internal polls are suggesting they are seeing. And I want
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to read a couple of paragraphs for you from that
From that piece, Again, this was out earlier today, came
out this morning from CNN Bucket Eye. By the way,
in the first hour, I so want to echo this.
We want all of you to be getting out there
and making a tremendous difference in your communities. But also
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we want Trump going to Springfield, Ohio and having conversations
with all of those voters that are there right now.
CNN reading from that story this morning. At a leadership
retreat for Top AIDS in Wilmington last week, Jen O'Malley Dylon,
campaign chair of Joe Biden, also retained by Kamala Harris
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went through the battleground states and warned them that there
was going to be a tough path to two hundred
and seventy electoral votes. I'm reading from CNN Pennsylvania. The
looks rough right now, though very possible based on their
internal numbers. North Carolina they feel like they're better off
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than North Carolina, interestingly than Arizona, where they are not optimistic.
They say Nevada and Georgia are both possible. They feel
better about Michigan and Wisconsin best of the bunch according
to the campaign's internal numbers.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And they said.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Right now, if the election were held again I'm reading
from CNN this Tuesday instead of on November fifth, Trump
would be in a very good position to win. So
these are based on the internal numbers.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
This ties in with what you and I said in
the wake of the debate. Almost immediately Kamalas said, hey,
I want another debate. Typically, if you lose a debate,
you want another debate, but also the trailing candidate wants
as many debates as possible. Trump now has said no,
no more debates. We've got a VP debate between Tim
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Walls and JD. Vance that I think, frankly Jdvan going
to wipe the floor with Tim Walls. That is scheduled
for I think October first or somewhere around there, a
few weeks from now. But there are two recent statewide
polls that have come out from Michigan. One had Trump
up one point, the second one has Buck a dead tie,
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but four when RFK Junior is included, Kamala wins by
a point. The state Supreme Court in Michigan just ruled
that RFK Junior, who is asking for his name to
be pulled from the ballot because he's no longer running
and has endorsed Trump, that his name can't be pulled
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off the ballot. Look what they do, not what they say.
They know that Michigan may come down to a few
thousand votes, and they think some of you out there,
even though RFK Junior is not going to be running,
might vote RFK Junior. And you're far more likely to
vote RFK Junior if you're a tr Trump otherwise supporter
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than if you're a Kamala otherwise supporter. To me, Buck,
this is a big deal, and this goes to how
tight this race is. According to the internal numbers that
Kamala's own team is seen, it's.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Going to be a close race. Everybody. We know that.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
There's no way around it. Even if you had a
Trump run the table situation in the swing states from
my lips to God's ears, right, even if you had
that happen and the electoral College would show a very
substantial win, the vote totals in these states are not
going to be hugely different. Now hugely. I know there's
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a lot of wiggle room in there. But you know,
if Trump would if Trump, given what happened the last
time around, if Trump would win a state like Michigan
or Pennsylvania by fifty to one hundred thousand votes, let's
just say, that would be really substantial.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
That would be a landslide relative to what we've seen
in the past.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
My points is being that's actually not many votes when
you think about how many votes.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And it would be a landslide. Honestly, if he won
by one hundred thousand votes, we'd be like, ah, yeah,
this was an unbelievable win.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
So this is all Everything is being determined here on
the kind of head of a pin, if you will.
I mean, this is all around the edges. It's all
very small bites at the apple that can be taken
in these different states by the various strategies and get
up the vote efforts and everything else. I think that's
a massive efforts. Why they spend billions of dollars on
campaigns Now, I think the RFK factor in Michigan is interesting. Look,
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there's a chance that he's a hero in a sense there,
and there's a chance that he's not. We'll see what happens,
not only with whether he stays on the ballot, but
what the final vote talities are. Remember rfk's own internal
showed that he was taking This is one of the
reasons he stepped down and endorsed Trump was that he said,
he said this not just people. He said, I'm taking
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more votes from Trump than asked and Kamala, which, if
you think about it as he's made more sense. RFK Junior,
what's his what's his like one line value proposition to
the voter?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It would be, you know, sort.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Of smashing the system and uh and defying the corporatism,
particularly in you know, big pharma, but corporatism more generally
that has become far too powerful a force in America
period and certainly in American politics right that's going to
be more people who are right of center than left
of center. That that appeals to the only people you
were going to get voting RFK who were Democrats, I
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think were really disaffected with the fact that Biden sucks.
He's bad at this right, He's had a stinky four
years in office. It has not been good, and he's
got dementia, and the whole thing is insulting Kamala in
the mix, I think I think a lot of those
people who were thinking RFK on the Democrat side are like,
all right, you know, she's at you know, her brain
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is functional, and she could probably do this and make
it through four years, you know, intact. So I think
that that's been the a shift a little bit in
the calculations that has occurred. But you know, we got
It's funny because on the one hand, it's like there's
a lot of time between now, but also there's not
a lot of time between now and early voting.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, Clay's waving off, you know, as an eternity. Now
we're pretty a race. I mean, let me give you
this buck.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Pennsylvania right now, gambling markets Republican and this adds up
a little bit more because it's rounding Republican fifty one
percent winner Democrat fifty percent winner. You cannot get any
closer who's going to win this race. Gambling markets Kamala
Harris right now has forty nine point eight percent chance.
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Trump has forty nine point two percent chance. I mean,
we are basically in a tie game at the start
of the fourth quarter. And all of you in Pennsylvania
and many other states, but Pennsylvania is one of the
first states can start to vote next week. To me, Buck,
once you can start to vote, it's election season.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I wish we just had election Day. I understand many
of you. But once you can vote, the election's going.
It's a pulling election. And what's important is whatever the
snapshot is on September fifteenth or September eighteenth, when people
are sending in their ballots basically is a function of
the reality on the ground. So something happens on October
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twenty fourth and changes your outcome. A ton of people
have already voted, and I want to go back to
this because I think it's so important about Pennsylvania, which
I believe is going to decide this election. Fifty percent
of Democrat voters, Buck had already voted before John Fetterman
and doctor Oz had their debate in the fall.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Of twenty twenty two. Crazy when you think.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
That's how good there get out the vote mechanisms are.
It didn't even matter what was said on that stage
by John Fetterman because he had already banked a huge lead.
This is where Pennsylvanians have to be active. And if
you're out there and you're saying, well, I like to
wait till election day. If you have the opportunity to
vote early, I would just say go vote early, because again,
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it allows them to focus on lower propensity voters. Do
we have Ryan Gardeski on he said something staggering, I
thought buck.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
He said, if.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
White non college graduates voted at the same level that,
for instance, I think it was white college graduates vote,
that Oregon would be a red state.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah. How crazy is that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I know this is the we keep talking about this.
You know, the media's obsession is always with you know,
you know, single, single, nonparent women thirty five to fifty
five with a college education who live in you know,
immediate suburbs of love. Yeah, okay, you can start to
slice the onion very thin with all these different demographics
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and everything else. But if you're talking about who could
just determine this whole thing, no question about all the
other pieces really that could move around white non college
educated dudes.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That that's who.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
That's who holds all the power to determine the election
in the swing states. Because people talk about the Hispanic population.
Hispanic population of America is huge in California, New York, Florida,
although a lot of Cubans here, which is different than
the voting patterns of the general Hispanic population, right like Texas, Texas,
I mean right, but that the Hispanic population is in
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states where you know, ten percent here, five percent, there's
not probably going to make very much of a difference. Uh,
The population that will determine this is why we're white,
non college educated, working class voters in this in the
Ross belt.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I've said it all one blue in the face.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
But that's because I hope the Trump team is doing
as much ballot chase and as much I agree work
on this as they possibly can.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
My challenge to all of you is not only to
vote early. If you're listening to us right now, find
a buddy that usually doesn't vote and convince his knuckle
head self to go out and vote, because that stat
from Gerdsky blew my mind. The votes are there in Oregon,
for God's sake, people just aren't willing to go out
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and vote. Who otherwise would be Trump supporters. Get people registered,
get them out, get them active, and get your own
votes in because it's going to be tight.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
It's going to be super tight.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And Kamala thinks if the election were Tuesday that her
team would lose. We still got seven weeks, but the
vote tally start next week in many of those battleground states.
I gotta apologize to everybody buck, including you. Not only
did we lose in prize picks, we lost every pick
that I gave out last night yesterday I told you, hey,
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Bill's Dolphins. I got three picks for you. All of
them were losers. You would have been better off doing
the exact opposite of what I said.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It's on me.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I got to go back to the laboratory. I gotta
get better with the picks next week. Last week we
were one toe away from winning ten to one. This
week yesterday didn't even ever give it a ride, didn't
even give it a challenge. I'm gonna be better next week.
But you can get fifty bucks right now. If you
go to prizepicks dot com and just put in my
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name Clay, you get fifty bucks. If you put in
a five dollars pick. Buck followed me over the edge.
He lost. I promise I'm gonna be better next week.
But in the meantime, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Buck. I apologize to you.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
If no one's gonna make it up to us, you know,
because Papa Buck needs a new pair of shoes.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Things are expecting to make it in Miami.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I'm gonna make it up to you, but you have
to be signed up for me to make it up
to you.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. You know, we're kind
of taking some highlights from our buddies out there who
are throwing down on behalf of truth.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Justice in the American Way. Is that Captain America? Whose
slogan is that?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I think it's Superman, isn't it Superman?
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Right?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, Supercruth Justice the American Way? Superman, Thank you. But
we had a gerdusky hour one on CNN slapping some
people around verbally speaking. Stephen Miller, a savant on border
issues in particular, was confronted by some reporter asking him
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about or not asking him. You know what, I'm just
gonna let you hear how Steven handles the angry reporter
play a team.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Are Venezuelan gangs in this country or not? Yes or no?
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (16:14):
The figures that you say to say that in Caracas
the number is slower down in the USA.
Speaker 8 (16:19):
Venezuelan gangs in this country or not, So you don't
have numbers are venezuel You know who has numbers, the
Department of Homeland Security. You can ask my orchest for numbers.
You can ask the director Ray for the numbers.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Sir, I'm telling you said that in Venezuela the crime
rate is lower than the USA.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Yes, because what are your members?
Speaker 8 (16:36):
That's my question, because the criminals are here now, don't starts?
Numbers can tell you again, the border patrol agents are
encountering fact.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
Trust number.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
I trust the border agents in our country. And I
am not saying that lower crime rate.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
Children are dead and you are wasting my time.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
I am not saying I'm asking for fat as a journalist.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
Do you have any remorse for the dead children? Do
you care all about the jud shouldern?
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Absolutely?
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Then That's what I want to leave you with, is
that Donald Trump wills.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Here's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 8 (17:07):
Donald Trump is going to be elected president, and the
migrant gangs are going to be sent home.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Children's lives will be saved.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
And now you got to get fired up in this election.
Stephen Miller throwing down Clay.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Some people pretend to care about issues because that is
how they make a living Steven Miller, who I think
is an awesome guy, but we've had him on the
show a ton. Stephen Miller cares more about the border
of this country than almost anyone in a position of
political authority anywhere. And if you heard that passion, that
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is what he would bring. If he's given the opportunity
to try to clean this mess up, I think he'd
do a hell.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Of a job.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front Lines of Truth.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We didn't
play this for you yesterday, but the gall was so
staggering that I asked for the team to roll this
over to today. Yesterday, Merrick Garland was addressing the Department
of Justice their employees, and I actually watched this live.
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Fox News carried much of it, and it actually made
me want a puke because it was so transparently fake
everything that Attorney General Merrick Garland was saying.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
And I hate that we're here. I honestly do.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
As a doubly barred lawyer, I'm licensed in two different
jurisdictions out there. I want for justice to be blind.
I want for the Department of Justice to apply the
law fairly, impartially evenly, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, gay, straight,
male female, Republican Democrat independent. I want the law to
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be applied evenly. To me, we have never had a
more biased Department of Justice in my life than the
one that we have right now. And here is what
Merrick Garland was saying. I just want you to listen
and remember the Department of Justice, Robert Hurr actually found
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that Joe Biden willfully retain classified documents. And the reason
he said he shouldn't face criminal charges is because his
brain didn't work well enough for there to be a
conviction that happened. But Merrick Garland says, there's no one
rule that's different for friend or foes, for the powerful
and the powerless, for Democrats, and for I mean, this
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is such a whe listen to cut one.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
We must treat like cases alike. There is not one
rule for friends and another for foes, one rule for
the powerful and another for the powerless, one rule for
the rich and another for the poor, one rule for
Democrats and another for Republicans, or different rules depending on
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one's race or ethnicity. To the contrary, we have only
one rule. We follow the facts and apply the law
in a way that respects the Constitution and protects civil liberties.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
This is square buck. I think media matters. Actually, if
you had an honest sit down, if I got to
sit down with Merrick Garland and actually hold his feet
to the fire a little bit, which is what I
think media should do. How can he remotely explain the
difference if all of what he just said was true.
If I played him that clip and said, okay, given
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that this is your standard, explain why Joe Biden had
no consequences for his wilful retention of classified documents and
you tried to put Donald Trump in prison for the
rest of his life and rated Mara a lago. And
I don't think, I mean, this is what an honest
media should do.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
When I heard that, it made me sick to my
stomach because he just says that and it's totally not true.
But there is no holding his feet to the fire
and making him answer for why he's not living up
to the principles he claims to a spou.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
There's no way to hold his feet to the fire, Clay,
because I think Merrick Garland unfortunately is delusional. I think
he believes what he's saying there. I think that all
Democrats do really as a psychological defense mechanism, because what
they've done is so bad that they have to go
further in the direction against it to try to make
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themselves feel like they haven't weaponized the law, which is
exactly what they have done. We could sit there and say, oh,
I don't know. For example, do you really think it
is just Merrick Garland to have nonviolent January sixth defendants
held in solitary confinement for I believe up to eighteen
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months before their trial. Okay, eighteen months before trial. Do
you think that that is just because there's really a
threat that they would come out of that prison cell
and overthrow the government. Merrick Garland would look you in
the eyes and he would say, that is what the
system told us.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
That is what the career.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
They always love that career prosecutors, career this, yeah, career communists. Yeah,
you know, it doesn't but they fall back on the
process and they act like no one's actually made these decisions.
I mean, could Merrick Garland really defend you know, intellectually,
could he defend not only the senior DOJ figure who
when to go work in Bragg's office in New York.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Now that's a huge remotion at the Department of Justice
went back to a New York state court to prosecute
Trump not talked about a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
It would never happen.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
It's like being a major league baseball player and deciding
that you want to go play in Double A instead.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
It's exactly what happened. And could he really defend the
prosecution of Donald Trump on a misdemeanor cobbled together in
a way that is explicitly against prosecutorial guidelines, which is
you're not supposed to try to find ways to charge
the same crime over and over again. You know, the
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perfect example of this is if you're going to charge
somebody for cocaine possession, you don't charge them for each
time they pass, you know, the cocaine between the two
of them, although theoretically you could try. That's exactly what
they did here at the business records. Yeah, and Andy
McCarthy explained this when he was on the show. I
think that's important. But also I don't know if you
saw this. Megan, Megan Kelly had on I was.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
On our show earlier this week. We had a good time.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Meghan had on Naval Rava Khan recently, who is a
super brilliant guy. I actually meant to text you some
clips from this play just to we're always like prepping
for show over the weekends. He's like at a baseball
game with his kids, and I'm like, check out this clip.
I'm like, anyway, naval Rabat Khan is a brilliant guy
Silicon Valley. He was on our show and he just
said that lawfair is the destruction of the republic. I
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mean he said that straight up. He said, if this
is the new game, if this is the way it goes,
nothing else really matters. Because whatever your election is, and
whatever your laws are, and whatever the Constitution says is irrelevant.
If people are going to operate in bad faith, who
have the power to prosecute, which is the power to destroy.
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And so he even said basically, anybody in Silicon Valley
who cheers on this stuff against Trump is dead to him,
Like He's like, because you are advocating for something that
will destroy this country and that will ruin everything that
has been built. I completely agree with him. Let me
just say yes, I think that's that sentiment integral.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
And this also ties in with again, I think it's
important for you all to understand how much you're being
lied to by your own Department of Justice. Listen to
cut Tubuck. He says, we won't allow this Department of
Justice to be used as a political weapon. I just
I mean, you're trying to put the chief political adversary
of the sitting president in prison for the rest of
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his life. The whying is just overWe listen to cuttoo.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Our norms are a promise that we will fiercely protect
the independence of this department from political interference in our
criminal investigations. Our norms are a promise that we will
not allow this department to be used as a political weapon.
And our norms are a promise that we will not
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allow this nation to become a country where law enforcement
is treated as an apparatus of politics.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Listen to everyone clapping for him. It is really like
I was watching it in that clapping that you just heard.
They went crazy when he made that comment, And look,
I wish it were true. But Buck, of all of
the offices out there, I think if Trump wins, who
he picks his attorney general is actually the most important
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decision he has to make.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
It's a critical decision. He needs somebody who is both
aligned with the constitutional and MAGA MAGA mission and understands
how to operate the unwieldy device that is the Department
of Justice. But Clay, you know, if you if you
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look just you know, at history, so many times this
plays out where the most aggressive I mean, you could
look at this is certainly the case with Hitler in
World War Two, It's the case with Stalin whenever he
was invading any anytime somebody is the aggressor, they they
come up with a narrative of themself as the victim,
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because then that creates this basis for I'm not doing
the bad thing, I'm doing the good thing. And in
the same way that you know, Stalin sending in tank
somewhere because of the oppression of like Russian speaking people there,
you know, whatever it may be, right, the capitalist the
capitalist swine of America influencing some You have this with
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the DOJ here and Merrick Garland. They're weaponizing the DOJ.
And what they're telling themselves and everybody else is they
would never weaponize the DOJ. And they're the ones who
are upholding the rule of law in the Constitution without
political favor, you know what I mean. It's yeah, they're
the aggressors and they act like they're the victims or
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they're the they're the bad guys and they act like
they're the good guys.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
This is important because a lot of what Trump gets
called on for fact checking and lying is hyperbolic perspective
that is actually right directionally. And let me explain what
I mean by that, because I think it really kind
of boils down to what you just said. What Merrick
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Garland is saying is the exact opposite of what he's doing.
It is directionally a lie, but he's able to say it,
and the media is like, oh, yes, of course. What
Trump gets called on frequently is he'll say something like
like he's out in Los Angeles and I just saw
a quote where he came out and he said, our
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Trump golf course in Los Angeles is the best golf
course anywhere in LA and anywhere in California. It's far
better than Pebble Beach, and the revenue proves it. And
then somebody will come out and they'll say, well, actually,
Pebble Beach makes you know, twenty million dollars more a
year than I'm just tossing out numbers than Pebble Beach,
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than the Trump's course in LA. And therefore Trump is
lying about this. It's like, well, he's actually just saying
the course is really good, and he's speaking like it's
the most beautiful, it's the most spectacular, it's the most profitable.
They go after him where he's very often correct on
a minor detail associated with the general trajectory he's on,
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and sometimes I would argue he undisciplined to allow those attacks.
But meanwhile, what the merit garlands of the world buck
are saying is far more significant and far more dishonest,
because what they're saying is the exact opposite of what
they're doing. In other words, Trump like, we built two
thousand amazing walls, and they're like, actually it was you know,
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you rebuilt fifteen hundred and you only built four hundred
miles of walls or whatever. But his goal is the
intent and the right one, whereas Democrats are lying to
you about what their intent is and doing the exact opposite,
which is a far more pernicious thing to be doing.
And that is the essence to me of what the
Kamala campaign.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
When Trump says, my crowd size are the biggest ever,
oh yeah, maybe he gets a little caught up in himself.
When Obama said, if you like your health care plan,
you could keep your health care plan, that was a
nasty lie that hurt lots and lots of people.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
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out there. It's also why much of the fact checking
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Carl Right's brilliant idea. Trump needs to go to Springfield,
Aurora and Alabama. This is a game changer. Thank you
for the push Alabama.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I'm not sure exactly look there.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
My point on Springfield is and it sounds like the Simpsons,
because that's why they named it Springfield, because basically every
state has a springfield, and you never were supposed to
know exactly where springfield in the Simpsons, one of the
most popular long running shows of all time, the cartoon.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
How many springfields have you been to? I have no.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I mean, there's one that I've been to quite a
lot just north of Nashville over the years.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I didn't even know there was a springfield in the
in the Nashville area.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I legitimately think there is a springfield in all fifty states.
They may not be one in Alaska or Hawaii maybe,
but in the forty.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
A lot of time in college at the train station Springfield, Massachusetts,
not not having not having a much of a renaissance
in Springfield, Massachusett. Springfield, mass is where the Basketball Hall
of Fame is right, that sounds right. I've probably I
never went, which is not does not surprise you. And
I've been to Springfield, Illinois, famous place for some for
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those history buffs, and uh nice, I like Springfield, Illinois
is really nice. Yeah, pretty red for a city for
a state capital for sure. So yeah, well that's our
point on why Trump should be going to Springfield, Ohio
is not only is there probably a town named Springfield
in your state, but also it is emblematic of what
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immigration is doing to change so many communities out there.
And for the most part, I think most people would
say for the worst, whether you're white, Black, Asian, Hispanic,
if you are a legal citizen of the United States,
illegal immigrants flooding into your state, into your city is
not making your life better. It's making it more dangerous,
and it's diverting resources which could otherwise go to help
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actual citizens. Derek writes, instead of just focusing on Springfield,
like to know who's flying them in.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I live in Lima. Is it Lima? I don't know,
it's Lima in Peru.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Lima almost two hours north, and we have an influx
all the major cities along I seventy five or seeing them.
I have a family that works as a police officer.
It's getting terrible police spread the word.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Look, I mean when you have people who are coming
into a place and they cannot they cannot compete economically,
they're you know, all this stuff about how all they're
going to do the jobs. We do not need millions
of non English speaker, unskilled laborers all of a sudden
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on the job market, unless you want to make it
really hard for people who are trying to build themselves
off the economic ladder in this country to be able
to do so. Supply and demand play still counts, whether
it's people or products.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
No doubt, and the incentives that you provide drive human
behavior in all facets of life, whether it's immigration or
whether it's hey, how much you're getting paid to work
versus not work. Remember when we made the disastrous decision
to just send everybody paychecks while they set home and
watch Netflix. They didn't go very well, led to nine
percent inflation. We come back, We're going to head out
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to Nevada, a state with a lot of hard working
people who are trying to decide who to vote for.
Both the President and the Senate. Captain Sam Brown.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Will be with us.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
We'll find out what he's seeing on the ground in
the Great State of Nevada.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Next
Welcome back in hour number two, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
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Program with you anywhere you may be headed in the world. Okay,
I mentioned a couple of different things that I wanted
to hit you with. Let me tell you, by the way,
We've got a couple of guests coming up next hour.
We're going to talk with Sam Brown, who is the
Senate candidate for the Republican Party in Nevada, battleground state
out there that is basically dead even between Trump and
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Kamala and we're going to talk with Sam Brown out there.
Also Kurt Cameron, legendary I think it's fair to say
Star of Growing Pains will be with us at two thirty,
both of those guests in the final hour. All right, Buck,
We have been talking quite a lot about the situation
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in the Midwest, not only in Pennsylvania, where you can
begin voting next week. I mean, that's crazy. We basically
have fifty days of voting that's going to be going
on in Pennsylvania, which is probably the biggest and most
important battleground state of them all. And we encourage you
(01:36):
on this program to vote early because as soon as
you bank your ballot, that allows the outreach for the
Trump team to focus on other voters that they believe
are likely to support them that may not have done so.
I understand that a lot of you want to wait
until election day. I've traditionally been an election day voter
as well, because I love the feel of going into
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vote on election day.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I'm voting the.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Absolute first day that I can in the state of Tennessee,
which is October sixteenth. I'm getting my ballot taken care of,
I'm walking in, I'm early voting Trump Blackburn, Mark Green
is my congressman. Boom boom boom, So you know, how
I'm voting in President, Senate, and Congress. I'll be done,
and then I'm going to continue to encourage all of
you to go out in early vote. But there is
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a battle right now in Michigan that could be very consequential,
and I want to share those details with you. But
first I want to tell you about a story posted
by CNN today that is I think very important because
it gives you an idea of what the Kamala teams
internal polls are suggesting they are seeing. And I want
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to read a couple of paragraphs for you from that
From that piece, Again, this was out earlier today, came
out this morning from CNN Bucket Eye. By the way,
in the first hour, I so want to echo this.
We want all of you to be getting out there
and making a tremendous difference in your communities. But also
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we want Trump going to Springfield, Ohio and having conversations
with all of those voters that are there right now.
CNN reading from that story this morning. At a leadership
retreat for Top AIDS in Wilmington last week, Jen O'Malley Dylon,
campaign chair of Joe Biden, also retained by Kamala Harris
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went through the battleground states and warned them that there
was going to be a tough path to two hundred
and seventy electoral votes. I'm reading from CNN Pennsylvania. The
looks rough right now, though very possible based on their
internal numbers. North Carolina they feel like they're better off
(03:57):
than North Carolina, interestingly than Arizona, where they are not optimistic.
They say Nevada and Georgia are both possible. They feel
better about Michigan and Wisconsin best of the bunch according
to the campaign's internal numbers.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And they said.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Right now, if the election were held again I'm reading
from CNN this Tuesday instead of on November fifth, Trump
would be in a very good position to win. So
these are based on the internal numbers.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
This ties in with what you and I said in
the wake of the debate. Almost immediately Kamalas said, hey,
I want another debate. Typically, if you lose a debate,
you want another debate, but also the trailing candidate wants
as many debates as possible. Trump now has said no,
no more debates. We've got a VP debate between Tim
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Walls and JD. Vance that I think, frankly Jdvan going
to wipe the floor with Tim Walls. That is scheduled
for I think October first or somewhere around there, a
few weeks from now. But there are two recent statewide
polls that have come out from Michigan. One had Trump
up one point, the second one has Buck a dead tie,
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but four when RFK Junior is included, Kamala wins by
a point. The state Supreme Court in Michigan just ruled
that RFK Junior, who is asking for his name to
be pulled from the ballot because he's no longer running
and has endorsed Trump, that his name can't be pulled
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off the ballot. Look what they do, not what they say.
They know that Michigan may come down to a few
thousand votes, and they think some of you out there,
even though RFK Junior is not going to be running,
might vote RFK Junior. And you're far more likely to
vote RFK Junior if you're a tr Trump otherwise supporter
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than if you're a Kamala otherwise supporter. To me, Buck,
this is a big deal, and this goes to how
tight this race is. According to the internal numbers that
Kamala's own team is seen, it's.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Going to be a close race. Everybody. We know that.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
There's no way around it. Even if you had a
Trump run the table situation in the swing states from
my lips to God's ears, right, even if you had
that happen and the electoral College would show a very
substantial win, the vote totals in these states are not
going to be hugely different. Now hugely. I know there's
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a lot of wiggle room in there. But you know,
if Trump would if Trump, given what happened the last
time around, if Trump would win a state like Michigan
or Pennsylvania by fifty to one hundred thousand votes, let's
just say, that would be really substantial.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
That would be a landslide relative to what we've seen
in the past.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
My points is being that's actually not many votes when
you think about how many votes.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And it would be a landslide. Honestly, if he won
by one hundred thousand votes, we'd be like, ah, yeah,
this was an unbelievable win.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
So this is all Everything is being determined here on
the kind of head of a pin, if you will.
I mean, this is all around the edges. It's all
very small bites at the apple that can be taken
in these different states by the various strategies and get
up the vote efforts and everything else. I think that's
a massive efforts. Why they spend billions of dollars on
campaigns Now, I think the RFK factor in Michigan is interesting. Look,
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there's a chance that he's a hero in a sense there,
and there's a chance that he's not. We'll see what happens,
not only with whether he stays on the ballot, but
what the final vote talities are. Remember rfk's own internal
showed that he was taking This is one of the
reasons he stepped down and endorsed Trump was that he said,
he said this not just people. He said, I'm taking
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more votes from Trump than asked and Kamala, which, if
you think about it as he's made more sense. RFK Junior,
what's his what's his like one line value proposition to
the voter?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It would be, you know, sort.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Of smashing the system and uh and defying the corporatism,
particularly in you know, big pharma, but corporatism more generally
that has become far too powerful a force in America
period and certainly in American politics right that's going to
be more people who are right of center than left
of center. That that appeals to the only people you
were going to get voting RFK who were Democrats, I
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think were really disaffected with the fact that Biden sucks.
He's bad at this right, He's had a stinky four
years in office. It has not been good, and he's
got dementia, and the whole thing is insulting Kamala in
the mix, I think I think a lot of those
people who were thinking RFK on the Democrat side are like,
all right, you know, she's at you know, her brain
(08:53):
is functional, and she could probably do this and make
it through four years, you know, intact. So I think
that that's been the a shift a little bit in
the calculations that has occurred. But you know, we got
It's funny because on the one hand, it's like there's
a lot of time between now, but also there's not
a lot of time between now and early voting.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, Clay's waving off, you know, as an eternity. Now
we're pretty a race. I mean, let me give you
this buck.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Pennsylvania right now, gambling markets Republican and this adds up
a little bit more because it's rounding Republican fifty one
percent winner Democrat fifty percent winner. You cannot get any
closer who's going to win this race. Gambling markets Kamala
Harris right now has forty nine point eight percent chance.
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Trump has forty nine point two percent chance. I mean,
we are basically in a tie game at the start
of the fourth quarter. And all of you in Pennsylvania
and many other states, but Pennsylvania is one of the
first states can start to vote next week. To me, Buck,
once you can start to vote, it's election season.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I wish we just had election Day. I understand many
of you. But once you can vote, the election's going.
It's a pulling election. And what's important is whatever the
snapshot is on September fifteenth or September eighteenth, when people
are sending in their ballots basically is a function of
the reality on the ground. So something happens on October
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twenty fourth and changes your outcome. A ton of people
have already voted, and I want to go back to
this because I think it's so important about Pennsylvania, which
I believe is going to decide this election. Fifty percent
of Democrat voters, Buck had already voted before John Fetterman
and doctor Oz had their debate in the fall.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Of twenty twenty two. Crazy when you think.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
That's how good there get out the vote mechanisms are.
It didn't even matter what was said on that stage
by John Fetterman because he had already banked a huge lead.
This is where Pennsylvanians have to be active. And if
you're out there and you're saying, well, I like to
wait till election day. If you have the opportunity to
vote early, I would just say go vote early, because again,
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it allows them to focus on lower propensity voters. Do
we have Ryan Gardeski on he said something staggering, I
thought buck.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
He said, if.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
White non college graduates voted at the same level that,
for instance, I think it was white college graduates vote,
that Oregon would be a red state.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah. How crazy is that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I know this is the we keep talking about this.
You know, the media's obsession is always with you know,
you know, single, single, nonparent women thirty five to fifty
five with a college education who live in you know,
immediate suburbs of love. Yeah, okay, you can start to
slice the onion very thin with all these different demographics
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and everything else. But if you're talking about who could
just determine this whole thing, no question about all the
other pieces really that could move around white non college
educated dudes.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That that's who.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
That's who holds all the power to determine the election
in the swing states. Because people talk about the Hispanic population.
Hispanic population of America is huge in California, New York, Florida,
although a lot of Cubans here, which is different than
the voting patterns of the general Hispanic population, right like Texas, Texas,
I mean right, but that the Hispanic population is in
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states where you know, ten percent here, five percent, there's
not probably going to make very much of a difference. Uh,
The population that will determine this is why we're white,
non college educated, working class voters in this in the
Ross belt.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I've said it all one blue in the face.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
But that's because I hope the Trump team is doing
as much ballot chase and as much I agree work
on this as they possibly can.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
My challenge to all of you is not only to
vote early. If you're listening to us right now, find
a buddy that usually doesn't vote and convince his knuckle
head self to go out and vote, because that stat
from Gerdsky blew my mind. The votes are there in Oregon,
for God's sake, people just aren't willing to go out
(13:12):
and vote. Who otherwise would be Trump supporters. Get people registered,
get them out, get them active, and get your own
votes in because it's going to be tight.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
It's going to be super tight.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And Kamala thinks if the election were Tuesday that her
team would lose. We still got seven weeks, but the
vote tally start next week in many of those battleground states.
I gotta apologize to everybody buck, including you. Not only
did we lose in prize picks, we lost every pick
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Bill's Dolphins. I got three picks for you. All of
them were losers. You would have been better off doing
the exact opposite of what I said.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It's on me.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I got to go back to the laboratory. I gotta
get better with the picks next week. Last week we
were one toe away from winning ten to one. This
week yesterday didn't even ever give it a ride, didn't
even give it a challenge. I'm gonna be better next week.
But you can get fifty bucks right now. If you
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He lost. I promise I'm gonna be better next week.
But in the meantime, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Buck. I apologize to you.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
If no one's gonna make it up to us, you know,
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. You know, we're kind
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are throwing down on behalf of truth.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Justice in the American Way. Is that Captain America? Whose
slogan is that?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I think it's Superman, isn't it Superman?
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Right?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, Supercruth Justice the American Way? Superman, Thank you. But
we had a gerdusky hour one on CNN slapping some
people around verbally speaking. Stephen Miller, a savant on border
issues in particular, was confronted by some reporter asking him
(16:06):
about or not asking him. You know what, I'm just
gonna let you hear how Steven handles the angry reporter
play a team.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Are Venezuelan gangs in this country or not? Yes or no?
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (16:14):
The figures that you say to say that in Caracas
the number is slower down in the USA.
Speaker 8 (16:19):
Venezuelan gangs in this country or not, So you don't
have numbers are venezuel You know who has numbers, the
Department of Homeland Security. You can ask my orchest for numbers.
You can ask the director Ray for the numbers.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Sir, I'm telling you said that in Venezuela the crime
rate is lower than the USA.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Yes, because what are your members?
Speaker 8 (16:36):
That's my question, because the criminals are here now, don't starts?
Numbers can tell you again, the border patrol agents are
encountering fact.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
Trust number.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
I trust the border agents in our country. And I
am not saying that lower crime rate.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
Children are dead and you are wasting my time.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
I am not saying I'm asking for fat as a journalist.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
Do you have any remorse for the dead children? Do
you care all about the jud shouldern?
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Absolutely?
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Then That's what I want to leave you with, is
that Donald Trump wills.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Here's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 8 (17:07):
Donald Trump is going to be elected president, and the
migrant gangs are going to be sent home.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Children's lives will be saved.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
And now you got to get fired up in this election.
Stephen Miller throwing down Clay.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Some people pretend to care about issues because that is
how they make a living Steven Miller, who I think
is an awesome guy, but we've had him on the
show a ton. Stephen Miller cares more about the border
of this country than almost anyone in a position of
political authority anywhere. And if you heard that passion, that
(17:43):
is what he would bring. If he's given the opportunity
to try to clean this mess up, I think he'd
do a hell.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Of a job.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Take some of your calls here coming up shortly, and
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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front Lines of Truth.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We didn't
play this for you yesterday, but the gall was so
staggering that I asked for the team to roll this
over to today. Yesterday, Merrick Garland was addressing the Department
of Justice their employees, and I actually watched this live.
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Fox News carried much of it, and it actually made
me want a puke because it was so transparently fake
everything that Attorney General Merrick Garland was saying.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
And I hate that we're here. I honestly do.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
As a doubly barred lawyer, I'm licensed in two different
jurisdictions out there. I want for justice to be blind.
I want for the Department of Justice to apply the
law fairly, impartially evenly, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, gay, straight,
male female, Republican Democrat independent. I want the law to
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be applied evenly. To me, we have never had a
more biased Department of Justice in my life than the
one that we have right now. And here is what
Merrick Garland was saying. I just want you to listen
and remember the Department of Justice, Robert Hurr actually found
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that Joe Biden willfully retain classified documents. And the reason
he said he shouldn't face criminal charges is because his
brain didn't work well enough for there to be a
conviction that happened. But Merrick Garland says, there's no one
rule that's different for friend or foes, for the powerful
and the powerless, for Democrats, and for I mean, this
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is such a whe listen to cut one.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
We must treat like cases alike. There is not one
rule for friends and another for foes, one rule for
the powerful and another for the powerless, one rule for
the rich and another for the poor, one rule for
Democrats and another for Republicans, or different rules depending on
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one's race or ethnicity. To the contrary, we have only
one rule. We follow the facts and apply the law
in a way that respects the Constitution and protects civil liberties.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
This is square buck. I think media matters. Actually, if
you had an honest sit down, if I got to
sit down with Merrick Garland and actually hold his feet
to the fire a little bit, which is what I
think media should do. How can he remotely explain the
difference if all of what he just said was true.
If I played him that clip and said, okay, given
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that this is your standard, explain why Joe Biden had
no consequences for his wilful retention of classified documents and
you tried to put Donald Trump in prison for the
rest of his life and rated Mara a lago. And
I don't think, I mean, this is what an honest
media should do.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
When I heard that, it made me sick to my
stomach because he just says that and it's totally not true.
But there is no holding his feet to the fire
and making him answer for why he's not living up
to the principles he claims to a spou.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
There's no way to hold his feet to the fire, Clay,
because I think Merrick Garland unfortunately is delusional. I think
he believes what he's saying there. I think that all
Democrats do really as a psychological defense mechanism, because what
they've done is so bad that they have to go
further in the direction against it to try to make
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themselves feel like they haven't weaponized the law, which is
exactly what they have done. We could sit there and say, oh,
I don't know. For example, do you really think it
is just Merrick Garland to have nonviolent January sixth defendants
held in solitary confinement for I believe up to eighteen
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months before their trial. Okay, eighteen months before trial. Do
you think that that is just because there's really a
threat that they would come out of that prison cell
and overthrow the government. Merrick Garland would look you in
the eyes and he would say, that is what the
system told us.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
That is what the career.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
They always love that career prosecutors, career this, yeah, career communists. Yeah,
you know, it doesn't but they fall back on the
process and they act like no one's actually made these decisions.
I mean, could Merrick Garland really defend you know, intellectually,
could he defend not only the senior DOJ figure who
when to go work in Bragg's office in New York.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Now that's a huge remotion at the Department of Justice
went back to a New York state court to prosecute
Trump not talked about a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
It would never happen.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
It's like being a major league baseball player and deciding
that you want to go play in Double A instead.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
It's exactly what happened. And could he really defend the
prosecution of Donald Trump on a misdemeanor cobbled together in
a way that is explicitly against prosecutorial guidelines, which is
you're not supposed to try to find ways to charge
the same crime over and over again. You know, the
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perfect example of this is if you're going to charge
somebody for cocaine possession, you don't charge them for each
time they pass, you know, the cocaine between the two
of them, although theoretically you could try. That's exactly what
they did here at the business records. Yeah, and Andy
McCarthy explained this when he was on the show. I
think that's important. But also I don't know if you
saw this. Megan, Megan Kelly had on I was.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
On our show earlier this week. We had a good time.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Meghan had on Naval Rava Khan recently, who is a
super brilliant guy. I actually meant to text you some
clips from this play just to we're always like prepping
for show over the weekends. He's like at a baseball
game with his kids, and I'm like, check out this clip.
I'm like, anyway, naval Rabat Khan is a brilliant guy
Silicon Valley. He was on our show and he just
said that lawfair is the destruction of the republic. I
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mean he said that straight up. He said, if this
is the new game, if this is the way it goes,
nothing else really matters. Because whatever your election is, and
whatever your laws are, and whatever the Constitution says is irrelevant.
If people are going to operate in bad faith, who
have the power to prosecute, which is the power to destroy.
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And so he even said basically, anybody in Silicon Valley
who cheers on this stuff against Trump is dead to him,
Like He's like, because you are advocating for something that
will destroy this country and that will ruin everything that
has been built. I completely agree with him. Let me
just say yes, I think that's that sentiment integral.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
And this also ties in with again, I think it's
important for you all to understand how much you're being
lied to by your own Department of Justice. Listen to
cut Tubuck. He says, we won't allow this Department of
Justice to be used as a political weapon. I just
I mean, you're trying to put the chief political adversary
of the sitting president in prison for the rest of
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his life. The whying is just overWe listen to cuttoo.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Our norms are a promise that we will fiercely protect
the independence of this department from political interference in our
criminal investigations. Our norms are a promise that we will
not allow this department to be used as a political weapon.
And our norms are a promise that we will not
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allow this nation to become a country where law enforcement
is treated as an apparatus of politics.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Listen to everyone clapping for him. It is really like
I was watching it in that clapping that you just heard.
They went crazy when he made that comment, And look,
I wish it were true. But Buck, of all of
the offices out there, I think if Trump wins, who
he picks his attorney general is actually the most important
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decision he has to make.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
It's a critical decision. He needs somebody who is both
aligned with the constitutional and MAGA MAGA mission and understands
how to operate the unwieldy device that is the Department
of Justice. But Clay, you know, if you if you
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look just you know, at history, so many times this
plays out where the most aggressive I mean, you could
look at this is certainly the case with Hitler in
World War Two, It's the case with Stalin whenever he
was invading any anytime somebody is the aggressor, they they
come up with a narrative of themself as the victim,
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because then that creates this basis for I'm not doing
the bad thing, I'm doing the good thing. And in
the same way that you know, Stalin sending in tank
somewhere because of the oppression of like Russian speaking people there,
you know, whatever it may be, right, the capitalist the
capitalist swine of America influencing some You have this with
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the DOJ here and Merrick Garland. They're weaponizing the DOJ.
And what they're telling themselves and everybody else is they
would never weaponize the DOJ. And they're the ones who
are upholding the rule of law in the Constitution without
political favor, you know what I mean. It's yeah, they're
the aggressors and they act like they're the victims or
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they're the they're the bad guys and they act like
they're the good guys.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
This is important because a lot of what Trump gets
called on for fact checking and lying is hyperbolic perspective
that is actually right directionally. And let me explain what
I mean by that, because I think it really kind
of boils down to what you just said. What Merrick
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Garland is saying is the exact opposite of what he's doing.
It is directionally a lie, but he's able to say it,
and the media is like, oh, yes, of course. What
Trump gets called on frequently is he'll say something like
like he's out in Los Angeles and I just saw
a quote where he came out and he said, our
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Trump golf course in Los Angeles is the best golf
course anywhere in LA and anywhere in California. It's far
better than Pebble Beach, and the revenue proves it. And
then somebody will come out and they'll say, well, actually,
Pebble Beach makes you know, twenty million dollars more a
year than I'm just tossing out numbers than Pebble Beach,
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than the Trump's course in LA. And therefore Trump is
lying about this. It's like, well, he's actually just saying
the course is really good, and he's speaking like it's
the most beautiful, it's the most spectacular, it's the most profitable.
They go after him where he's very often correct on
a minor detail associated with the general trajectory he's on,
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and sometimes I would argue he undisciplined to allow those attacks.
But meanwhile, what the merit garlands of the world buck
are saying is far more significant and far more dishonest,
because what they're saying is the exact opposite of what
they're doing. In other words, Trump like, we built two
thousand amazing walls, and they're like, actually it was you know,
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you rebuilt fifteen hundred and you only built four hundred
miles of walls or whatever. But his goal is the
intent and the right one, whereas Democrats are lying to
you about what their intent is and doing the exact opposite,
which is a far more pernicious thing to be doing.
And that is the essence to me of what the
Kamala campaign.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
When Trump says, my crowd size are the biggest ever,
oh yeah, maybe he gets a little caught up in himself.
When Obama said, if you like your health care plan,
you could keep your health care plan, that was a
nasty lie that hurt lots and lots of people.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yes, and that is very important for all of you
out there. It's also why much of the fact checking
industry by and large is garbage. The individual particulars of
an incident matter far less than the directional intent in
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Speaker 3 (32:47):
Welcome back in Clay and Buck here and next hour,
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Speaker 2 (33:08):
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Uh, it's it's definitely a fun way to talk to us.
Throughout the show, we got some vip emails coming to here.
Carl Right's brilliant idea. Trump needs to go to Springfield,
Aurora and Alabama. This is a game changer. Thank you
for the push Alabama.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I'm not sure exactly look there.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
My point on Springfield is and it sounds like the Simpsons,
because that's why they named it Springfield, because basically every
state has a springfield, and you never were supposed to
know exactly where springfield in the Simpsons, one of the
most popular long running shows of all time, the cartoon.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
How many springfields have you been to? I have no.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I mean, there's one that I've been to quite a
lot just north of Nashville over the years.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I didn't even know there was a springfield in the
in the Nashville area.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I legitimately think there is a springfield in all fifty states.
They may not be one in Alaska or Hawaii maybe,
but in the forty.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
A lot of time in college at the train station Springfield, Massachusetts,
not not having not having a much of a renaissance
in Springfield, Massachusett. Springfield, mass is where the Basketball Hall
of Fame is right, that sounds right. I've probably I
never went, which is not does not surprise you. And
I've been to Springfield, Illinois, famous place for some for
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those history buffs, and uh nice, I like Springfield, Illinois
is really nice. Yeah, pretty red for a city for
a state capital for sure. So yeah, well that's our
point on why Trump should be going to Springfield, Ohio
is not only is there probably a town named Springfield
in your state, but also it is emblematic of what
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immigration is doing to change so many communities out there.
And for the most part, I think most people would
say for the worst, whether you're white, Black, Asian, Hispanic,
if you are a legal citizen of the United States,
illegal immigrants flooding into your state, into your city is
not making your life better. It's making it more dangerous,
and it's diverting resources which could otherwise go to help
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actual citizens. Derek writes, instead of just focusing on Springfield,
like to know who's flying them in.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I live in Lima. Is it Lima? I don't know,
it's Lima in Peru.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Lima almost two hours north, and we have an influx
all the major cities along I seventy five or seeing them.
I have a family that works as a police officer.
It's getting terrible police spread the word.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Look, I mean when you have people who are coming
into a place and they cannot they cannot compete economically,
they're you know, all this stuff about how all they're
going to do the jobs. We do not need millions
of non English speaker, unskilled laborers all of a sudden
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on the job market, unless you want to make it
really hard for people who are trying to build themselves
off the economic ladder in this country to be able
to do so. Supply and demand play still counts, whether
it's people or products.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
No doubt, and the incentives that you provide drive human
behavior in all facets of life, whether it's immigration or
whether it's hey, how much you're getting paid to work
versus not work. Remember when we made the disastrous decision
to just send everybody paychecks while they set home and
watch Netflix. They didn't go very well, led to nine
percent inflation. We come back, We're going to head out
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to Nevada, a state with a lot of hard working
people who are trying to decide who to vote for.
Both the President and the Senate. Captain Sam Brown.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Will be with us.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
We'll find out what he's seeing on the ground in
the Great State of Nevada.
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