August 12, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show features Buck Sexton hosting solo and delivering a wide-ranging discussion centered on President Donald Trump, national security, Iran, the 2028 presidential race, Democratic Party politics, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC), cultural trends, family formation, and the future of American political leadership. Throughout the hour, Buck blends political analysis with commentary on current events and broader societal issues.
A major segment focuses on President Trump’s response to the recent Air Force One security controversy, often referred to as the “plane swap” story. Buck examines Trump’s remarks about changing aircraft on the recommendation of the Secret Service and military officials following reported security concerns. He emphasizes Trump’s willingness to defer to security professionals while also highlighting the president’s calm and confident attitude toward potential threats. The discussion expands into Trump’s experience surviving the Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt, with Buck arguing that the event has reinforced Trump’s sense of purpose and determination as he pursues what he views as major policy objectives during his presidency.
The conversation then turns to presidential security, political violence, and threats against public officials. Buck argues that highly consequential political figures often attract greater threats and contends that Trump continues to face serious security risks due to the significance of his presidency and policy agenda. He contrasts Trump’s leadership style with previous administrations and discusses broader concerns about political extremism, media rhetoric, and the increasingly polarized political environment in the United States.
Another major topic in Hour 2 is the evolving crisis involving Iran, U.S. foreign policy, and Middle East geopolitics. Buck reviews Trump’s latest public statements regarding Iran and the Strait of Hormuz, discussing U.S. leverage over Iran and the broader confrontation with the Iranian regime. He analyzes the challenges of negotiating with authoritarian governments, arguing that regimes such as Iran, Cuba, and other totalitarian systems are willing to tolerate immense economic hardship among their populations in order to maintain power. The discussion explores how suffering can be used as a political tool by authoritarian governments and examines the difficulties Western leaders face when attempting to pressure such regimes into policy changes.
Buck also offers a broader examination of foreign policy strategy, regime behavior, and international negotiations, comparing Iran’s leadership to historical authoritarian governments. He argues that economic pressure alone may not be sufficient to force regime change or major concessions from governments that prioritize ideological control over prosperity. The segment includes reflections on Russia, Cuba, Hamas, and the challenges of using sanctions, deterrence, and diplomacy against regimes that operate under very different political incentives from democratic governments.
The hour includes discussion of the 2028 Democratic presidential race, even as the 2026 election cycle remains underway. Buck evaluates potential Democratic contenders and speculates on where major political donors may ultimately direct their support. He discusses Vice President Kamala Harris’s future political prospects and suggests that AOC could emerge as a surprisingly influential figure in shaping the Democratic Party’s direction, either as a candidate or as a leading ideological force behind the scenes.
A significant portion of Hour 2 centers on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and reports surrounding her personal life. Buck discusses media reports indicating that AOC and her longtime fiancé may have ended their engagement. From there, the conversation broadens into commentary on relationships, marriage, family formation, fertility, and modern dating culture. Buck reflects on long engagements, changing marriage trends, and what he sees as cultural pressures that encourage people to delay marriage and parenthood. He argues that many young professionals, particularly in major urban areas, are encouraged to prioritize career advancement over family formation, often without fully appreciating the biological realities involved in starting families later in life.
The second half of the hour shifts into lighter cultural commentary, including Buck’s observations on fashion trends, generational changes, and social media culture. He humorously critiques current oversized and baggy denim trends, argues that such fashions will eventually be viewed negatively in hindsight, and contrasts them with previous fashion eras. He also jokes about radio broadcasting traditions, YouTube viewers requesting more formal attire from hos
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second hour of Clay inn Buck get's going right now,
Thanks for being here. Everybody from yesterday was asked a
whole bunch of questions by the pressy coverts and things
I want to talk to you about, like the plane swap,
plane swapgate out of Turkey, and then you've also got
(00:21):
him talking about Iran, the straight of war moves prices
a little bit of twenty twenty eight talk. It will
also maybe be a moment for me to discuss situation
of AOC and how she will do. I wonder one
(00:42):
thing that will give us a really good indicator of
how it's all looking for these Democrat candidates for twenty eight.
I know we're not even at the midterms yet, but
you're already seeing maneuvering about Democrat options for the twenty
twenty eight election cycle and the presidency. Who gets money?
(01:06):
Where is the money going among these Democrats? If Kamala
gets a lot of donor cash, then I'm probably gonna well,
I'm already gonna lose my bet she's gonna run, But
she might even surprise me by doing really well and
becoming the nominee. I don't think that will happen. Clay
thinks that will happen. We will see. I think if
(01:27):
someone is going to surprise us entirely, it would be AOC.
We'll get into that, but first here, as I mentioned,
Trump was asked a whole bunch of questions by the press,
and we explained to you yesterday this story about a
threat to Air Force one to one of the planes.
So he got on a different plane and they put
(01:49):
him in a food service cart. It's pretty pretty wild story.
And this is what Trump said when he was asked
about this is cut thirteen. Listen, it's only up to
Secret Service.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I just follow what they'd like to do. So I
go by Secret Service and the military. They wanted me
to go in a different plight to different planes, equal safety.
But they wanted me to do it, So I do it.
I do what they say.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I think actually the plane that I flew on was
at greater risk. I think it was at greater because
that would be the plane. I think that we that
they would be more likely.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
To go for.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I don't worry about anything, to be honest, whatever it is,
you know, my editor, whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
It is incredible. This president's brass, shall we say, resolve
because I am on radio. But you know what I
wanted to say, This guy has got he's got guts
and then some. It's also really to see how I
(03:01):
think his mindset has evolved, has well shifted dramatically after
what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania when that bullet went through
his ear. I know a lot of you spend a
lot of time on the range, and I've spent a
fair amount of time in recent years on the gun range.
(03:23):
A five five to six round not just whizzing past
your head, but raising your head. It would even if
you weren't the president. I think it would change your
outlook on a lot of things. I mean, it's a
true near death experience. Let's just say what it is.
President Trump is I think the same age as my father,
So I think he's seventy nine, guys, and my writers
(03:43):
the eighty. He's certainly right around there. And when you're
at that age and you've done as much as he's done,
you've lived a life that he has led. You've got
your kids, you got your grandkids, you got all that
his family and and you have such a tremendous, such
(04:05):
a tremendous run, shall we say I do think that
there is an air of invincibility about him at this point.
Now I'm not saying that he doesn't you know, he
doesn't have to be careful with his safety and secret Service.
I just mean in his own mind, he understands that.
Yeah he's eighty years old. Yeah, so my dad's seventy
(04:26):
nine is one year behind Trump. I gotta say, I
think that Trump is on a mission. He's in that
mode if you're if any of you are gamers, play
video games, where it's like he's on he's on a streak,
and all he's doing is taking on all the bad
guys that he can while he can, as long as
(04:48):
he can. And so I truly think it's not bluster
when he just says, look, I don't I don't even
worry about things. I'm just here on He's on mission.
He is there to complete the mission, whatever whatever that means.
And he is also because he's so consequential, because this
is a presidency that is trying to take big swings
(05:12):
and do big things, he's under much more substantial threat.
This is fourteen the cut fourteen. The President addressed this directly.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Listen, I have a lot of threats I have a
lot of threats that you don't know about.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Any consequential president has.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
A lot of threats. Non consequential presidents.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Don't get dressed.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And I think that I've maybe the most consequential president.
There's nobody's done more than me in a heard of
almost six years.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
All true, all true. You know, I really don't think
we ever heard about a serious, actionable threat against Joe
Biden while he was president in office. And this also
goes to my general fee is that the left and
the Democrat Party are the party of political violence. They
(06:05):
just are much more open to it. They have this
guy going around, Hassan Piker, who has said really I mean,
bloodthirsty sounding things on the air on a pretty well
I said it enough that I've heard it, and I'm
not somebody that pays a lot of attention to left
(06:27):
wing streamers. And yet this president is unfazed by all
of this. He pushes forward. He doesn't decide to prevaricate
or moderate based on the threats that he faces, and
I think he deserves a tremendous amount of credit for that.
He could have just said I'm going to ride things out.
(06:48):
I'm never even running again. He could have just said
I'm going to ride things out and play golf and
hang out in my beautiful homes with my beautiful family,
my beautiful wife, and enjoy life. Instead, he is in
the fight, and he does deserve a tremendous amount of
credit for that, and the country does owe him a
debt of gratitude. The Iranians don't feel that way unfortunately,
(07:12):
or the Iranian regime, and things are pretty much where
they have been with Iran as of today. And this
this whole situation, I'm trying to I'll pull up his
latest truth on this one, because that's how in real time.
Here you go. Yep, the USA. This was a few
(07:35):
hours ago, Trump on truth social USA has total control
over the Strait of Hormuz, all caps. I think we
will keep it. Our naval blockade is being called by
everyone a wall of steel, and there's nothing Iran can
do about it. They have no navy, they have no
air force, their remaining soldiers are unpaid. The IRGC is
decimated and fleeing, and their leadership is uncertain at best.
(07:58):
They have no money, They're is shot. All they have
is fake news and three hundred percent inflation and getting worse.
Iran has all talk and no action. The bully of
the Middle East no longer. Trump wrote, Praise be to Allah. Wow,
he did, Praise be to Allah, President Donald J. Trump.
I didn't see the last part until I just read
(08:20):
this to you. I saw I read the when I
was doing my prep this morning. I read the opening
of this. Praise Be to Allah, says the President. We'll
see what happens with Iran. I think that the one
part of the situation that may have been overestimated, or
I should say underestimated, was the acceptance of the Iranian
(08:43):
regime of the suffering of its people. The people in
charge do not care. Uh. This is a common reality
of totalitarian regimes that the people in charge do not
care about the suffering of their people, and in fact,
you the suffering of their people which they often induce
(09:04):
as the leaders themselves as a tool of control, whether
it's for starvation see Mao's Great Famine, or it's the
the Koulokization, the liquidation of the Kulocks under Stalin and
the Soviet Union, or they you know, and forcing people
off of farms and into factories and creating collective farms
(09:26):
that don't produce nearly enough to feed people all these things.
The suffering of people is a very potent political weapon
and control device, and that is certainly the case within
Iran as well. And I unfortunate side effect of what
we're seeing in Iran is that often the suffering of
people brings them together as a people against external enemies,
(09:51):
regardless of the root cause. I always remember I had
a long time, decades decades long, a Polish friend, and
she had some very very salty thoughts about Russia and Russians.
And I remember there's some story I forget, you know,
(10:12):
Putin had invaded somewhere and done something, and she just
saw me and she said, yeah, Americans think, oh, we're
gonna do this or that, and nothing brings the Russians
together like suffering. And that always really stuck with me.
And I think you've seen that. By the way, under Putin,
they've got a war going there. They say a half
a million casualties, and I think it might even be
(10:35):
a half a million estimated killed between both sides, which
is a massive, massive number of soldiers dying in a
conflict that doesn't really get much in the way of
headlines at all. Right now, but the Russian capacity for
suffering is pretty extreme. You'll go back and see whether
(10:59):
it's World War II you or it's under the Soviet Union,
or the capacity to endure suffering. And I think that
that's one aspect. I think Trump views things with Iran
through the lens of a guy who's like, I mean,
come on, let's do business. Let's be prosperous, let's be adults,
Let's be sound minded and rational and do things that
(11:19):
are going to be best for all people. You know,
that's his view of let's make a deal. Yeah, he
believes in carrots and sticks, but he thinks the carrots
should be or can be sufficient, and the sticks can
be big enough, so to speak, so to speak, that
he can get them to a place where they're they're
(11:40):
willing to make some kind of a meaningful deal. I
don't know that you can beat down the Iranian people
enough for that regime, for the IRGC. You're not going
to be able to starve the IRGC. Okay, the IRGC
and the people that are calling the shots there, they're
not going to be going hungry. You don't have that
much control. It is not possible. So they're going to
(12:02):
be able to feed themselves. They've got a lot of
conventional weapons AK forty sevens and tanks and things to
crush any uprising or any descent internally, and they frankly
don't care about the suffering of the Look look at
Hamas and the people of Gaza, same thing. Do you
think that the people in calling the shots in Hamas
(12:22):
are moved by how horrible life was day to day
for the even before the Israeli counter offensive after the
October seventh attack. Do you think that the people running
Hamas care?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
No?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
In fact, in their minds they will always take one
of two positions and maybe both in some way simultaneously.
The suffering of the people is not our fault. It's
the fault of some external you know, Israel or America
or the Jews or the Crusaders or whatever. It's not
our fault, it's your fault. I'm sure the Irani regime
(12:56):
is certainly taking that perspective at home. America is doing
all this to some truth to it, America is doing
this to us. And the other part of it is
this is a cost We're willing to pay. This suffering
is acceptable to us. Look at Cuba. Cuba, if the
people in charge of Cuba said, look, all we need
(13:16):
is a promise of amnesty from the United States government.
I'm talking about the you know, the Castro white the
decrepit castor white regime have. They said, all we want
is amesty from the United States government, and we're willing
to work with the US State Department and other international
mediators to create you know, elections in a twelve month cycle,
(13:39):
and we want Do you think Trump would would that
an I at an agreement with Cuba where the United
States would invest billions and billions of dollars with the
idea that of course the commerce and everything we get
going with them, and the opening the thong of this
relationship invests billions of dollars in development. It doesn't even
as be government money Trump would got his private sector buddies.
(14:00):
Wouldn't be hard to do to make Cuba a prosperous
and flourishing rule of law democracy. It's not hard to
do if they wanted to do it, or I should say,
it's a pretty straight path. Maybe it'd be complicated, but
we know how to get there, and they won't do it.
(14:21):
They're having I think they've had seven complete blackouts in Cuba,
the whole country is in the dark, and then no
power or I guess it's daytime, you know, but they
still have no power and regime is not moving, and
you'd be saying, why are they doing this? Because when
you know the nature of a thing, you know what
(14:42):
it's capable of. When you know the nature of the
Iranian regime, and you know the nature of Vladimir Putins Russia,
when you know the nature of Cuba, you understand what
decisions they're going to make. And they're not the decisions
that Trump would make, because Trump is a reasonable guy
who wants good things for people, and these totalitarian lunatics
running these places do not. So that's the challenge that
(15:04):
Trump has with trying to use proper leverage to get
a deal with Iran. How do you negotiate with crazy?
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Speaker 4 (16:41):
Claian Buck. Despite being twenty five years old, I would argue,
I'm probably more conservative than a majority of your audience.
And I know who has son Piker is, and maybe
it's a bit of a generational thing, but he's not
exactly a nobody. He definitely has some influence in the
younger left, and there's a bit of an ept toy
in there. He's a check I believe you is uh
(17:04):
is his uncle from the Young Kirks.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, that's all true. I think Clay a few days
ago and I didn't want to. I don't know. I
should have should have probably said something just for clarifying
the record. I think Clay might have said, like, oh,
who's this guy? He has a small audience or something. Unfortunately,
uh Hassan Piker has a large audience of very confused
and resentful leftists. And I think that he is one
(17:28):
of those people in media who if I hear that
somebody is a fan, I think less of them as
a person. It's just there's not a good person. I mean,
I know that seems harsh maybe, but it's just true.
There are other people. I go, Okay, you know, if
you're like that guy, you know, I get it. Not
my cup of tea. But no, he advocates for horrible thing,
(17:51):
and I'm shocked that he has that. He has a
large audience. A leftist, though young leftist. That is absolutely true.
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(18:57):
Alexandria Ocazio Ortes AOC has separated from her fiance, or
at least that's the story on TMZ, I should note,
among other sites and now the New York Post reporting
(19:19):
she does not deny breaking up with her fiance, and
that would be a pretty easy thing to do, right
if you were still together. So some people are saying
it's confirmed, but others here, she says on video. She
was asked in New York New York Post has this
(19:39):
she split from her fiance? She said, I don't comment
on my private life. Thank you. That's gonna be a
tough one for people to just accept, considering considering that
she just live streamed injecting herself for egg retrieval. So
the way that worked, you know, a woman going through ive, yeah,
(20:02):
will inject herself with hormones, and the hormones trigger a
release that a release of eggs, and then they harvest
the eggs, and then they can unite an egg with
sperm in the lab Peatri dish, so to speak, and
then it probably isn't a Petri dish, and then they
can take that and put the embryo and put it
(20:23):
in a woman. And that is how IVF babies are made.
So she did the shot on video, but now she
says she doesn't talk about her private life. I have
a few thoughts on this. Also in the video, I
understand that I am not one usually to comment on
fashion for obvious reasons. I sit here in a T
(20:45):
shirt we have gotten, by the way. Look, we are
in Clay and I are in the audience appreciation and
service business. We are here to serve you, that is
for sure, and we really love our jobs and we
do our best every single day to make this the
most worthwhile for you could possibly be. I will, as
a general rule, do backflips, move mountains, shake heaven and earth,
(21:08):
whatever it is for you, our beloved audience. But those
of you were sending in demands on the YouTube that
we start wearing collared shirts, I have news for you.
It's not gonna happen. Okay, So I'm just telling you
right now, you can you can skip all that. We're
not gonna wear collared shirts. That's one of those things
(21:29):
that I am not. I'm not going back to the
era of wearing uncomfortable things for for work purposes. Like
I said, like I always say, weddings and funerals, yes,
I will get dressed up. I will even wear a
tie meeting with the President of United States, probably the
vice president, not like a senator, sorry, but like maybe
(21:51):
jacket and tie. Definitely jacket. I'm not going to go
in there and cargo shorts and flip flops like that's
a clay move. But I would say there are times
when I will get dressed up and that's fine, But
I view it as like costuming. I don't view it
as something that anybody really wants to wear. CIA we
had where, uh, it was kind of it was business
casual in my office, but you had to have a suit,
(22:14):
jacket antie hanging from your cubicle wall at all times
because for briefings and things we had to do to
suit and tie and it was a suit. You know,
it was the whole thing. Hated that hated having a
suit and tie. So yeah, sorry, we're not gonna do
collar shirts. I'm talking about fashion here because in the
AOC video where she's asked about her fiance, which has,
(22:36):
as I said, spurred a lot of redhead jokes, her
fiance is a very like fiery red haired guy, fire
fiery red hair guy. Well, what's with all the anti
redhead stuff out there? Huh? I don't don't. I don't
have red hair, obviously my wife does. I think I
think redheads. I think red hair is is quite lovely.
I may say, I don't know what there's this weird
(22:57):
anti ginger is how they use the people that don't
like red hair refer to it as gingers, and which
also doesn't really because is ginger isn't red, It's like orange.
So why do they call my dog's name is ginger?
Why do they call redhead's gingers guys? Because is it?
(23:19):
Because is ginger isn't red? Is it? Am I just
colorblind and don't even know it? Am I missing something?
I'm pro redheads? Maybe even this redhead that was engaged
to AOC was a great guy other than his hair.
Some some fun facts about redheads. They have the densest
hair per square inch on their scalp. Yeah, they tend
(23:44):
to have higher pain tolerance than non red haired people,
which can be an issue for like dentist stuff, when
you know, things where they have to put you under
give you anesthesia, and obviously they often have the least
amount of protection when it comes to not the least
maybe I guess people with very platinum blonde hair, but
(24:06):
the sun is tough for them anyway. The guy's are
redhead and people are commenting on that a lot, and
I'm just saying, you know, I'm team redhead here. I
don't understand, but she's wearing and I'm just telling everybody
that there's some things I'm right on. You know, one
thing that I have not gotten credit for a team.
When I started doing radio fifteen years ago and it
(24:27):
has been fifteen years, everybody kept telling me all the time,
don't you have to wear like the big headphones that
people in radio would wear. And I would say, no, I
don't need to wear that. I just can have a
little thing that lets me communicate and hear what I
need to in terms of the other audio from a
guest or from a SoundBite or something, or talk to
(24:49):
the team. Why would I want head and now now
it's because I think videos become so much more common,
like our YouTube stream. Everyone has switched over and realized
all that stuff with the big head and they so
you need to hear your return. I know what my
voice sounds like. I actually don't need to have it
filtered back into my ear. I'm bringing it up to
you because I think I'm something of a trend setter.
I think I'm something of a trendsetter. For years, people
(25:11):
were like, I would do interviews in other people's radio
studios and hey, you want to put the headphones on. No,
actually I don't. I don't need them, and my head's
too big for them, and I'm a little embarrassed to
admit that. So I'm just not gonna put them on.
And they always sort of fit, but I would stretch
them out and it was it was sort of painful.
AOC is wearing the baggy lady jeans in the thing.
(25:34):
This is what I'm trying to tell you. And I
know a lot of your guys, and you don't well
a lot of your guys, and so you don't wear
the baggy lady jeans, I assume, But this is one
of the worst female fashion trends of my lifetime. This
is terrible. In fact, there are some very funny there's
some very funny posts on social media of guys about
(25:56):
my age who their wife comes home. I've seen this
on Instagram and TikTok. Their wife comes home says, hey,
don't you like my jeans? And they're these baggy, boxy,
straight legged, kind of amorphous looking stuff. And then in
their mind they go back to what their wife was
(26:17):
like in college when she was wearing Remember when women
were wearing the fitted jeans, not even necessarily skinny. Skinny
jeans are too tight, but just like fitted jeans, it
was a better time. It was a better America with
ladies and fitted jeans compared to these. I see every
fashionable woman that I see, and you see it a
lot more in New York you do in Miami because
no one even wears pants here. But I see these genes,
(26:40):
the ugliest geans I've ever seen. And these women are
being vic They're victims to the fashion trend. They're gonna
look back on all these photos and say, and by
the way, I don't care what your body type is
or body size or you know, you're pleasantly plump or
your rail fin or whatever. These jeans look terrible. And
people who say they're comfortable, I just want to point out,
(27:00):
so is wearing a sack you know, so would be
wearing like a mumu. Isn't that with like like a
big you know, or a a poncho you know? Comfortable?
But is that good? Anyway? I know I'm not the
fashion police, but I keep I'm working with people and
this I'm trying to tell all the ladies who will listen,
(27:23):
and there are some of you young ladies listening right now.
The big jeans are It's a hideous fashion trend. You
will look back on this the way that men wearing
earth tone suits with huge shoulder pads in the nineties
look back on those photos where they're just like, oh
what was that? Look? Look preposterous? It looks preposterous. It's
(27:45):
a terrible thing. And AOC is wearing them, of course,
because she's trendy. Right now, people say I'm wrong because
they're on trend, the aesthetic is wrong. They're gonna be bad. Okay.
The other part of this, I got a lot of
thoughts on this AOC stuff. Other part of this, they
were engaged team check for me how long they were
engaged for. But it was not very not O was sorry.
(28:09):
It was a very long time. I think it was
years and years and years they've been engaged because I've
seen this guy. This guy's been lurking in the background
of AOC photos for a long time, right with his
lovely red hair and red beard. I used to have
some red in my beard and now it's turned white
cause I'm getting old. I used to have that red
(28:30):
red mix and the beard. I miss it. But now
I'm distinguished. Right, Clay and I both have some white
going in the beard. We're distinguished now. A long engagement
there are always exceptions to every rule. Let me start
with that, because we're gona get somebody's dinners. Like I've
been married fifty years and my wife and I we
were engaged for ten years and we got ten children
(28:52):
and thirty grandchildren. Okay, that's fantastic. Generally speaking, you shouldn't
have a really long engagement. What is that It's like
a negotiation with Iran where you're negotiating to have a
future negotiation about the negotiation, like you asked, you're preparing,
you're doing the thing or else you're not doing the
thing now. Maybe they aren't broken up, Maybe they get
(29:16):
back together. I don't know, she's a public figure. It's
tough to know, although it seems pretty pretty likely that
they have perhaps broken up, and that's what's going on here.
April of twenty twenty two. Yeah, that's too long. Four
years too long, that's when. That's how long they've been engaged.
(29:36):
And I'm gonna say this out there. There needs to
be I don't know if you want to call it
like a public service announcements or something, but especially for
the ladies out there, you gotta declare. Depending on where
you are in your life, it's up to you. Remember
we were discussing the realities of biology and procreation and
family building and how age affects that. You have to
(30:00):
establish what your threshold is for how long you could
date somebody, how long you can be engage with somebody,
and you have to enforce that. I saw far too
many times. It's particularly in New York some of you,
this is not really a thing. If you maybe you know,
if you live in uh, you know, I don't know,
(30:20):
if you live in Indiana, Hey, what's going on? Wooland
I mean if you live in Kansas, If you live
in Kentucky, maybe there's far less of this going on
because women and men tend to get married more in
their mid late twenties. In New York, it's more in
the early to mid thirties and getting older. Yeah, they're
(30:41):
engaged more than four years. It's just too long, guys,
It's just too long. Saying this along one of the
talks that I've had to have with many friends of
mine who are women, and back when I was single,
but I had I've I've always been wise in the
dating stuff because I've been through the battles. I've got
the battle scars like I've been to the mountaintop. You
(31:01):
know what I'm saying. I have seen the front lines
of the dating wars. These guys who date a woman
through many of her I'm just gonna say it peak
years of biological fertility. I'm not saying that, ladies, if
you peak in your forties or fifties or sixties, or
(31:22):
that's great. I'm just saying if you date a guy
from like twenty six to thirty two or twenty six
to thirty five, and I've seen it, and then he decides, eh,
I'm gonna date this girl who's twenty three and gonna
get her her masters in uh, you know, back rubs
or something that doesn't sound terrible, but still that's not
(31:43):
nice because you have run down the biological clock for
that woman in a meaningful way. And people need to
be told that they You have to pull it. Ladies.
You gotta police for yourself for a lot of you
know what this is. You need to tell your daughter
or your granddaughter. In a lot of cases, Hey, that
guy who's been dating and you're not getting engaged. And look,
I practice what I preach. Why did I get married late?
(32:05):
I didn't meet the right person. I met Carrie. I
knew she was the right person. We were engaged six
months after we started dating, six months married within a year.
Couldn't be happier. Now, you know, I understand, I'm three
four years and I'm trying to the math only a
few years in this. But my point is, you gotta move, folks.
When it's right, you know it, you go, you do it.
(32:27):
And this thing with aos, I'm gonna tell you this.
I'm sympathetic to AOC situation. I'm sympathetic to it because
I know a lot of people say she should know better.
She dated this guy and they broke up, and she's
getting to a point where it's harder for her half kids.
There's so much if you grow up in a major
city in the on either coast, I can speak to that.
(32:48):
Probably true in Chicago too, the forces telling you to
date around, you know, blow a lot of time on things,
way to have children and put your career. Those voices
are so loud, and they are everywhere, including the doctors
who should be telling the truth to these women over
(33:08):
many years. It just all across the board. They're getting
bad advice, they're being told the wrong thing. So I
actually have a great deal of sympathy for a woman
in AOC's position. I really, and I mean that. I'm
not being super silious about it. I'm being good word
by the way, being totally honest with you because it's
(33:30):
gonna get harder. And oh yeah. The problem with the
place like New York and dating in New York is
everybody pruser allies points that everyone thinks they have endless options.
All of us are on borrowed time. Every day is
a blessing we are all I'm not trying to be
a bummer. You and I we are all gonna die.
We do not have endless time, and you do not
(33:51):
have endless time to find the right person and start
a family. It doesn't mean you have to do it
by twenty five, but you got to get focused on
this and you gotta do it. You are on grandkid zone.
I know, congratulations, that's fantastic. So I'm not talking to you,
but somebody needs to tell these women the truth because
the sex and the city thing of just party, party martini,
(34:12):
sex with everybody and who cares is disastrous for these women.
Disastrous for them, all right, end of speech on that one.
I just I feel passionately about it, and I feel
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Call her Joan in Pennsylvania. What have you got for us?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I have to disagree with you about the baggy jeans
onlymen being the worst fashion sense. I have to disagree
the ones that are ripped all over the place, the knees,
it's horrible. They're they're the worst ever. They have big
holes out. My god, they're horrible. So I have to
disagree with you. They are the worst. And if you
(36:21):
don't know what I'm talking about, take a look. They're horrible.
One more thing, really quickly, if you could convince Clay
to shave off that scruffy beard of his, he would
be so much more handsome as he did.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I think I have zero chance of thank you for that.
I think I have zero chance of convincing Clay to
shave off his beard. But I'm sure he will hear that.
And does that mean I need to shave off my
scruffy beard too, I don't know. I think the ladies
preferred the beard Kerry does.
Second hour of Clay inn Buck get's going right now,
Thanks for being here. Everybody from yesterday was asked a
whole bunch of questions by the pressy coverts and things
I want to talk to you about, like the plane swap,
plane swapgate out of Turkey, and then you've also got
(00:21):
him talking about Iran, the straight of war moves prices
a little bit of twenty twenty eight talk. It will
also maybe be a moment for me to discuss situation
of AOC and how she will do. I wonder one
(00:42):
thing that will give us a really good indicator of
how it's all looking for these Democrat candidates for twenty eight.
I know we're not even at the midterms yet, but
you're already seeing maneuvering about Democrat options for the twenty
twenty eight election cycle and the presidency. Who gets money?
(01:06):
Where is the money going among these Democrats? If Kamala
gets a lot of donor cash, then I'm probably gonna well,
I'm already gonna lose my bet she's gonna run, But
she might even surprise me by doing really well and
becoming the nominee. I don't think that will happen. Clay
thinks that will happen. We will see. I think if
(01:27):
someone is going to surprise us entirely, it would be AOC.
We'll get into that, but first here, as I mentioned,
Trump was asked a whole bunch of questions by the press,
and we explained to you yesterday this story about a
threat to Air Force one to one of the planes.
So he got on a different plane and they put
(01:49):
him in a food service cart. It's pretty pretty wild story.
And this is what Trump said when he was asked
about this is cut thirteen. Listen, it's only up to
Secret Service.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I just follow what they'd like to do. So I
go by Secret Service and the military. They wanted me
to go in a different plight to different planes, equal safety.
But they wanted me to do it, So I do it.
I do what they say.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I think actually the plane that I flew on was
at greater risk. I think it was at greater because
that would be the plane. I think that we that
they would be more likely.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
To go for.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I don't worry about anything, to be honest, whatever it is,
you know, my editor, whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
It is incredible. This president's brass, shall we say, resolve
because I am on radio. But you know what I
wanted to say, This guy has got he's got guts
and then some. It's also really to see how I
(03:01):
think his mindset has evolved, has well shifted dramatically after
what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania when that bullet went through
his ear. I know a lot of you spend a
lot of time on the range, and I've spent a
fair amount of time in recent years on the gun range.
(03:23):
A five five to six round not just whizzing past
your head, but raising your head. It would even if
you weren't the president. I think it would change your
outlook on a lot of things. I mean, it's a
true near death experience. Let's just say what it is.
President Trump is I think the same age as my father,
So I think he's seventy nine, guys, and my writers
(03:43):
the eighty. He's certainly right around there. And when you're
at that age and you've done as much as he's done,
you've lived a life that he has led. You've got
your kids, you got your grandkids, you got all that
his family and and you have such a tremendous, such
(04:05):
a tremendous run, shall we say I do think that
there is an air of invincibility about him at this point.
Now I'm not saying that he doesn't you know, he
doesn't have to be careful with his safety and secret Service.
I just mean in his own mind, he understands that.
Yeah he's eighty years old. Yeah, so my dad's seventy
(04:26):
nine is one year behind Trump. I gotta say, I
think that Trump is on a mission. He's in that
mode if you're if any of you are gamers, play
video games, where it's like he's on he's on a streak,
and all he's doing is taking on all the bad
guys that he can while he can, as long as
(04:48):
he can. And so I truly think it's not bluster
when he just says, look, I don't I don't even
worry about things. I'm just here on He's on mission.
He is there to complete the mission, whatever whatever that means.
And he is also because he's so consequential, because this
is a presidency that is trying to take big swings
(05:12):
and do big things, he's under much more substantial threat.
This is fourteen the cut fourteen. The President addressed this directly.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Listen, I have a lot of threats I have a
lot of threats that you don't know about.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Any consequential president has.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
A lot of threats. Non consequential presidents.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Don't get dressed.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And I think that I've maybe the most consequential president.
There's nobody's done more than me in a heard of
almost six years.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
All true, all true. You know, I really don't think
we ever heard about a serious, actionable threat against Joe
Biden while he was president in office. And this also
goes to my general fee is that the left and
the Democrat Party are the party of political violence. They
(06:05):
just are much more open to it. They have this
guy going around, Hassan Piker, who has said really I mean,
bloodthirsty sounding things on the air on a pretty well
I said it enough that I've heard it, and I'm
not somebody that pays a lot of attention to left
(06:27):
wing streamers. And yet this president is unfazed by all
of this. He pushes forward. He doesn't decide to prevaricate
or moderate based on the threats that he faces, and
I think he deserves a tremendous amount of credit for that.
He could have just said I'm going to ride things out.
(06:48):
I'm never even running again. He could have just said
I'm going to ride things out and play golf and
hang out in my beautiful homes with my beautiful family,
my beautiful wife, and enjoy life. Instead, he is in
the fight, and he does deserve a tremendous amount of
credit for that, and the country does owe him a
debt of gratitude. The Iranians don't feel that way unfortunately,
(07:12):
or the Iranian regime, and things are pretty much where
they have been with Iran as of today. And this
this whole situation, I'm trying to I'll pull up his
latest truth on this one, because that's how in real time.
Here you go. Yep, the USA. This was a few
(07:35):
hours ago, Trump on truth social USA has total control
over the Strait of Hormuz, all caps. I think we
will keep it. Our naval blockade is being called by
everyone a wall of steel, and there's nothing Iran can
do about it. They have no navy, they have no
air force, their remaining soldiers are unpaid. The IRGC is
decimated and fleeing, and their leadership is uncertain at best.
(07:58):
They have no money, They're is shot. All they have
is fake news and three hundred percent inflation and getting worse.
Iran has all talk and no action. The bully of
the Middle East no longer. Trump wrote, Praise be to Allah. Wow,
he did, Praise be to Allah, President Donald J. Trump.
I didn't see the last part until I just read
(08:20):
this to you. I saw I read the when I
was doing my prep this morning. I read the opening
of this. Praise Be to Allah, says the President. We'll
see what happens with Iran. I think that the one
part of the situation that may have been overestimated, or
I should say underestimated, was the acceptance of the Iranian
(08:43):
regime of the suffering of its people. The people in
charge do not care. Uh. This is a common reality
of totalitarian regimes that the people in charge do not
care about the suffering of their people, and in fact,
you the suffering of their people which they often induce
(09:04):
as the leaders themselves as a tool of control, whether
it's for starvation see Mao's Great Famine, or it's the
the Koulokization, the liquidation of the Kulocks under Stalin and
the Soviet Union, or they you know, and forcing people
off of farms and into factories and creating collective farms
(09:26):
that don't produce nearly enough to feed people all these things.
The suffering of people is a very potent political weapon
and control device, and that is certainly the case within
Iran as well. And I unfortunate side effect of what
we're seeing in Iran is that often the suffering of
people brings them together as a people against external enemies,
(09:51):
regardless of the root cause. I always remember I had
a long time, decades decades long, a Polish friend, and
she had some very very salty thoughts about Russia and Russians.
And I remember there's some story I forget, you know,
(10:12):
Putin had invaded somewhere and done something, and she just
saw me and she said, yeah, Americans think, oh, we're
gonna do this or that, and nothing brings the Russians
together like suffering. And that always really stuck with me.
And I think you've seen that. By the way, under Putin,
they've got a war going there. They say a half
a million casualties, and I think it might even be
(10:35):
a half a million estimated killed between both sides, which
is a massive, massive number of soldiers dying in a
conflict that doesn't really get much in the way of
headlines at all. Right now, but the Russian capacity for
suffering is pretty extreme. You'll go back and see whether
(10:59):
it's World War II you or it's under the Soviet Union,
or the capacity to endure suffering. And I think that
that's one aspect. I think Trump views things with Iran
through the lens of a guy who's like, I mean,
come on, let's do business. Let's be prosperous, let's be adults,
Let's be sound minded and rational and do things that
(11:19):
are going to be best for all people. You know,
that's his view of let's make a deal. Yeah, he
believes in carrots and sticks, but he thinks the carrots
should be or can be sufficient, and the sticks can
be big enough, so to speak, so to speak, that
he can get them to a place where they're they're
(11:40):
willing to make some kind of a meaningful deal. I
don't know that you can beat down the Iranian people
enough for that regime, for the IRGC. You're not going
to be able to starve the IRGC. Okay, the IRGC
and the people that are calling the shots there, they're
not going to be going hungry. You don't have that
much control. It is not possible. So they're going to
(12:02):
be able to feed themselves. They've got a lot of
conventional weapons AK forty sevens and tanks and things to
crush any uprising or any descent internally, and they frankly
don't care about the suffering of the Look look at
Hamas and the people of Gaza, same thing. Do you
think that the people in calling the shots in Hamas
(12:22):
are moved by how horrible life was day to day
for the even before the Israeli counter offensive after the
October seventh attack. Do you think that the people running
Hamas care?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
No?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
In fact, in their minds they will always take one
of two positions and maybe both in some way simultaneously.
The suffering of the people is not our fault. It's
the fault of some external you know, Israel or America
or the Jews or the Crusaders or whatever. It's not
our fault, it's your fault. I'm sure the Irani regime
(12:56):
is certainly taking that perspective at home. America is doing
all this to some truth to it, America is doing
this to us. And the other part of it is
this is a cost We're willing to pay. This suffering
is acceptable to us. Look at Cuba. Cuba, if the
people in charge of Cuba said, look, all we need
(13:16):
is a promise of amnesty from the United States government.
I'm talking about the you know, the Castro white the
decrepit castor white regime have. They said, all we want
is amesty from the United States government, and we're willing
to work with the US State Department and other international
mediators to create you know, elections in a twelve month cycle,
(13:39):
and we want Do you think Trump would would that
an I at an agreement with Cuba where the United
States would invest billions and billions of dollars with the
idea that of course the commerce and everything we get
going with them, and the opening the thong of this
relationship invests billions of dollars in development. It doesn't even
as be government money Trump would got his private sector buddies.
(14:00):
Wouldn't be hard to do to make Cuba a prosperous
and flourishing rule of law democracy. It's not hard to
do if they wanted to do it, or I should say,
it's a pretty straight path. Maybe it'd be complicated, but
we know how to get there, and they won't do it.
(14:21):
They're having I think they've had seven complete blackouts in Cuba,
the whole country is in the dark, and then no
power or I guess it's daytime, you know, but they
still have no power and regime is not moving, and
you'd be saying, why are they doing this? Because when
you know the nature of a thing, you know what
(14:42):
it's capable of. When you know the nature of the
Iranian regime, and you know the nature of Vladimir Putins Russia,
when you know the nature of Cuba, you understand what
decisions they're going to make. And they're not the decisions
that Trump would make, because Trump is a reasonable guy
who wants good things for people, and these totalitarian lunatics
running these places do not. So that's the challenge that
(15:04):
Trump has with trying to use proper leverage to get
a deal with Iran. How do you negotiate with crazy?
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Speaker 4 (16:41):
Claian Buck. Despite being twenty five years old, I would argue,
I'm probably more conservative than a majority of your audience.
And I know who has son Piker is, and maybe
it's a bit of a generational thing, but he's not
exactly a nobody. He definitely has some influence in the
younger left, and there's a bit of an ept toy
in there. He's a check I believe you is uh
(17:04):
is his uncle from the Young Kirks.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, that's all true. I think Clay a few days
ago and I didn't want to. I don't know. I
should have should have probably said something just for clarifying
the record. I think Clay might have said, like, oh,
who's this guy? He has a small audience or something. Unfortunately,
uh Hassan Piker has a large audience of very confused
and resentful leftists. And I think that he is one
(17:28):
of those people in media who if I hear that
somebody is a fan, I think less of them as
a person. It's just there's not a good person. I mean,
I know that seems harsh maybe, but it's just true.
There are other people. I go, Okay, you know, if
you're like that guy, you know, I get it. Not
my cup of tea. But no, he advocates for horrible thing,
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(19:19):
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that would be a pretty easy thing to do, right
if you were still together. So some people are saying
it's confirmed, but others here, she says on video. She
was asked in New York New York Post has this
(19:39):
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on my private life. Thank you. That's gonna be a
tough one for people to just accept, considering considering that
she just live streamed injecting herself for egg retrieval. So
the way that worked, you know, a woman going through ive, yeah,
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release that a release of eggs, and then they harvest
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can take that and put the embryo and put it
(20:23):
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So she did the shot on video, but now she
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whatever it is for you, our beloved audience. But those
of you were sending in demands on the YouTube that
we start wearing collared shirts, I have news for you.
It's not gonna happen. Okay, So I'm just telling you
right now, you can you can skip all that. We're
not gonna wear collared shirts. That's one of those things
(21:29):
that I am not. I'm not going back to the
era of wearing uncomfortable things for for work purposes. Like
I said, like I always say, weddings and funerals, yes,
I will get dressed up. I will even wear a
tie meeting with the President of United States, probably the
vice president, not like a senator, sorry, but like maybe
(21:51):
jacket and tie. Definitely jacket. I'm not going to go
in there and cargo shorts and flip flops like that's
a clay move. But I would say there are times
when I will get dressed up and that's fine, But
I view it as like costuming. I don't view it
as something that anybody really wants to wear. CIA we
had where, uh, it was kind of it was business
casual in my office, but you had to have a suit,
(22:14):
jacket antie hanging from your cubicle wall at all times
because for briefings and things we had to do to
suit and tie and it was a suit. You know,
it was the whole thing. Hated that hated having a
suit and tie. So yeah, sorry, we're not gonna do
collar shirts. I'm talking about fashion here because in the
AOC video where she's asked about her fiance, which has,
(22:36):
as I said, spurred a lot of redhead jokes, her
fiance is a very like fiery red haired guy, fire
fiery red hair guy. Well, what's with all the anti
redhead stuff out there? Huh? I don't don't. I don't
have red hair, obviously my wife does. I think I
think redheads. I think red hair is is quite lovely.
I may say, I don't know what there's this weird
(22:57):
anti ginger is how they use the people that don't
like red hair refer to it as gingers, and which
also doesn't really because is ginger isn't red, It's like orange.
So why do they call my dog's name is ginger?
Why do they call redhead's gingers guys? Because is it?
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Because is ginger isn't red? Is it? Am I just
colorblind and don't even know it? Am I missing something?
I'm pro redheads? Maybe even this redhead that was engaged
to AOC was a great guy other than his hair.
Some some fun facts about redheads. They have the densest
hair per square inch on their scalp. Yeah, they tend
(23:44):
to have higher pain tolerance than non red haired people,
which can be an issue for like dentist stuff, when
you know, things where they have to put you under
give you anesthesia, and obviously they often have the least
amount of protection when it comes to not the least
maybe I guess people with very platinum blonde hair, but
(24:06):
the sun is tough for them anyway. The guy's are
redhead and people are commenting on that a lot, and
I'm just saying, you know, I'm team redhead here. I
don't understand, but she's wearing and I'm just telling everybody
that there's some things I'm right on. You know, one
thing that I have not gotten credit for a team.
When I started doing radio fifteen years ago and it
(24:27):
has been fifteen years, everybody kept telling me all the time,
don't you have to wear like the big headphones that
people in radio would wear. And I would say, no, I
don't need to wear that. I just can have a
little thing that lets me communicate and hear what I
need to in terms of the other audio from a
guest or from a SoundBite or something, or talk to
(24:49):
the team. Why would I want head and now now
it's because I think videos become so much more common,
like our YouTube stream. Everyone has switched over and realized
all that stuff with the big head and they so
you need to hear your return. I know what my
voice sounds like. I actually don't need to have it
filtered back into my ear. I'm bringing it up to
you because I think I'm something of a trend setter.
I think I'm something of a trendsetter. For years, people
(25:11):
were like, I would do interviews in other people's radio
studios and hey, you want to put the headphones on. No,
actually I don't. I don't need them, and my head's
too big for them, and I'm a little embarrassed to
admit that. So I'm just not gonna put them on.
And they always sort of fit, but I would stretch
them out and it was it was sort of painful.
AOC is wearing the baggy lady jeans in the thing.
(25:34):
This is what I'm trying to tell you. And I
know a lot of your guys, and you don't well
a lot of your guys, and so you don't wear
the baggy lady jeans, I assume, But this is one
of the worst female fashion trends of my lifetime. This
is terrible. In fact, there are some very funny there's
some very funny posts on social media of guys about
(25:56):
my age who their wife comes home. I've seen this
on Instagram and TikTok. Their wife comes home says, hey,
don't you like my jeans? And they're these baggy, boxy,
straight legged, kind of amorphous looking stuff. And then in
their mind they go back to what their wife was
(26:17):
like in college when she was wearing Remember when women
were wearing the fitted jeans, not even necessarily skinny. Skinny
jeans are too tight, but just like fitted jeans, it
was a better time. It was a better America with
ladies and fitted jeans compared to these. I see every
fashionable woman that I see, and you see it a
lot more in New York you do in Miami because
no one even wears pants here. But I see these genes,
(26:40):
the ugliest geans I've ever seen. And these women are
being vic They're victims to the fashion trend. They're gonna
look back on all these photos and say, and by
the way, I don't care what your body type is
or body size or you know, you're pleasantly plump or
your rail fin or whatever. These jeans look terrible. And
people who say they're comfortable, I just want to point out,
(27:00):
so is wearing a sack you know, so would be
wearing like a mumu. Isn't that with like like a
big you know, or a a poncho you know? Comfortable?
But is that good? Anyway? I know I'm not the
fashion police, but I keep I'm working with people and
this I'm trying to tell all the ladies who will listen,
(27:23):
and there are some of you young ladies listening right now.
The big jeans are It's a hideous fashion trend. You
will look back on this the way that men wearing
earth tone suits with huge shoulder pads in the nineties
look back on those photos where they're just like, oh
what was that? Look? Look preposterous? It looks preposterous. It's
(27:45):
a terrible thing. And AOC is wearing them, of course,
because she's trendy. Right now, people say I'm wrong because
they're on trend, the aesthetic is wrong. They're gonna be bad. Okay.
The other part of this, I got a lot of
thoughts on this AOC stuff. Other part of this, they
were engaged team check for me how long they were
engaged for. But it was not very not O was sorry.
(28:09):
It was a very long time. I think it was
years and years and years they've been engaged because I've
seen this guy. This guy's been lurking in the background
of AOC photos for a long time, right with his
lovely red hair and red beard. I used to have
some red in my beard and now it's turned white
cause I'm getting old. I used to have that red
(28:30):
red mix and the beard. I miss it. But now
I'm distinguished. Right, Clay and I both have some white
going in the beard. We're distinguished now. A long engagement
there are always exceptions to every rule. Let me start
with that, because we're gona get somebody's dinners. Like I've
been married fifty years and my wife and I we
were engaged for ten years and we got ten children
(28:52):
and thirty grandchildren. Okay, that's fantastic. Generally speaking, you shouldn't
have a really long engagement. What is that It's like
a negotiation with Iran where you're negotiating to have a
future negotiation about the negotiation, like you asked, you're preparing,
you're doing the thing or else you're not doing the
thing now. Maybe they aren't broken up, Maybe they get
(29:16):
back together. I don't know, she's a public figure. It's
tough to know, although it seems pretty pretty likely that
they have perhaps broken up, and that's what's going on here.
April of twenty twenty two. Yeah, that's too long. Four
years too long, that's when. That's how long they've been engaged.
(29:36):
And I'm gonna say this out there. There needs to
be I don't know if you want to call it
like a public service announcements or something, but especially for
the ladies out there, you gotta declare. Depending on where
you are in your life, it's up to you. Remember
we were discussing the realities of biology and procreation and
family building and how age affects that. You have to
(30:00):
establish what your threshold is for how long you could
date somebody, how long you can be engage with somebody,
and you have to enforce that. I saw far too
many times. It's particularly in New York some of you,
this is not really a thing. If you maybe you know,
if you live in uh, you know, I don't know,
(30:20):
if you live in Indiana, Hey, what's going on? Wooland
I mean if you live in Kansas, If you live
in Kentucky, maybe there's far less of this going on
because women and men tend to get married more in
their mid late twenties. In New York, it's more in
the early to mid thirties and getting older. Yeah, they're
(30:41):
engaged more than four years. It's just too long, guys,
It's just too long. Saying this along one of the
talks that I've had to have with many friends of
mine who are women, and back when I was single,
but I had I've I've always been wise in the
dating stuff because I've been through the battles. I've got
the battle scars like I've been to the mountaintop. You
(31:01):
know what I'm saying. I have seen the front lines
of the dating wars. These guys who date a woman
through many of her I'm just gonna say it peak
years of biological fertility. I'm not saying that, ladies, if
you peak in your forties or fifties or sixties, or
(31:22):
that's great. I'm just saying if you date a guy
from like twenty six to thirty two or twenty six
to thirty five, and I've seen it, and then he decides, eh,
I'm gonna date this girl who's twenty three and gonna
get her her masters in uh, you know, back rubs
or something that doesn't sound terrible, but still that's not
(31:43):
nice because you have run down the biological clock for
that woman in a meaningful way. And people need to
be told that they You have to pull it. Ladies.
You gotta police for yourself for a lot of you
know what this is. You need to tell your daughter
or your granddaughter. In a lot of cases, Hey, that
guy who's been dating and you're not getting engaged. And look,
I practice what I preach. Why did I get married late?
(32:05):
I didn't meet the right person. I met Carrie. I
knew she was the right person. We were engaged six
months after we started dating, six months married within a year.
Couldn't be happier. Now, you know, I understand, I'm three
four years and I'm trying to the math only a
few years in this. But my point is, you gotta move, folks.
When it's right, you know it, you go, you do it.
(32:27):
And this thing with aos, I'm gonna tell you this.
I'm sympathetic to AOC situation. I'm sympathetic to it because
I know a lot of people say she should know better.
She dated this guy and they broke up, and she's
getting to a point where it's harder for her half kids.
There's so much if you grow up in a major
city in the on either coast, I can speak to that.
(32:48):
Probably true in Chicago too, the forces telling you to
date around, you know, blow a lot of time on things,
way to have children and put your career. Those voices
are so loud, and they are everywhere, including the doctors
who should be telling the truth to these women over
(33:08):
many years. It just all across the board. They're getting
bad advice, they're being told the wrong thing. So I
actually have a great deal of sympathy for a woman
in AOC's position. I really, and I mean that. I'm
not being super silious about it. I'm being good word
by the way, being totally honest with you because it's
(33:30):
gonna get harder. And oh yeah. The problem with the
place like New York and dating in New York is
everybody pruser allies points that everyone thinks they have endless options.
All of us are on borrowed time. Every day is
a blessing we are all I'm not trying to be
a bummer. You and I we are all gonna die.
We do not have endless time, and you do not
(33:51):
have endless time to find the right person and start
a family. It doesn't mean you have to do it
by twenty five, but you got to get focused on
this and you gotta do it. You are on grandkid zone.
I know, congratulations, that's fantastic. So I'm not talking to you,
but somebody needs to tell these women the truth because
the sex and the city thing of just party, party martini,
(34:12):
sex with everybody and who cares is disastrous for these women.
Disastrous for them, all right, end of speech on that one.
I just I feel passionately about it, and I feel
for aoc other than the fact that she's trying to
destroy the country with terrible policy. And look, we're talking
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about this in family formation. I gotta get serious here
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back in to Clay and Buck. Uh let's go here.
Call her Joan in Pennsylvania. What have you got for us?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I have to disagree with you about the baggy jeans
onlymen being the worst fashion sense. I have to disagree
the ones that are ripped all over the place, the knees,
it's horrible. They're they're the worst ever. They have big
holes out. My god, they're horrible. So I have to
disagree with you. They are the worst. And if you
(36:21):
don't know what I'm talking about, take a look. They're horrible.
One more thing, really quickly, if you could convince Clay
to shave off that scruffy beard of his, he would
be so much more handsome as he did.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I think I have zero chance of thank you for that.
I think I have zero chance of convincing Clay to
shave off his beard. But I'm sure he will hear that.
And does that mean I need to shave off my
scruffy beard too, I don't know. I think the ladies
preferred the beard Kerry does.
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