May 5, 2026 • 36 mins
In Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts continue their in-depth discussion of global energy markets, U.S. foreign policy, and domestic political strategy, while expanding the conversation with expert analysis, listener reactions, and a featured political interview. This hour builds directly on the ongoing Iran–Strait of Hormuz crisis, reinforcing how it connects to oil prices, inflation, and economic concerns for American consumers, while also branching into U.S.–Cuba relations, Venezuela developments, and Florida politics.
A major portion of Hour 2 remains focused on the global energy crisis and shipping disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, where Clay reiterates his controversial proposal that the United States act as an insurer of last resort for commercial oil tankers. The hosts explain that hundreds of ships are currently stalled near Dubai due to security risks and lack of insurance coverage, creating a bottleneck that is significantly impacting global oil supply and pricing. Clay argues that if the U.S. guaranteed compensation for damaged or destroyed vessels, it would restore confidence, get ships moving again, and drive oil prices down by as much as $20 per barrel, offering immediate relief to consumers. Buck challenges the practicality, highlighting risks such as crew safety, potential attacks, and long‑term consequences if ships are targeted, while also emphasizing that restoring two-way traffic—not just clearing the backlog—is essential for long-term stability.
The debate is intensified through listener calls and expert input, including an insurance professional who points out that acts of war are typically excluded from standard policies, reinforcing why private insurers have pulled back from the region. Clay counters that this is precisely why a government-backed solution is needed, framing the proposal as a strategic economic intervention rather than a traditional insurance model. Other callers push back, arguing the plan could expose taxpayers to risk and oversimplify the realities of global supply chains, sparking a larger conversation about government intervention, free markets, and U.S. responsibility in global trade security.
In addition to energy and geopolitics, Hour 2 features a detailed interview with Florida House Speaker Daniel Perez, adding a major political component to the broadcast. Perez provides insight into the ongoing crisis in Cuba, describing severe economic and humanitarian conditions under the current regime, including shortages of food, energy, and healthcare. He advocates for continued U.S. pressure, sanctions, and economic restrictions, aligning with what he describes as the Trump administration’s strategy of forcing regime change through sustained pressure. The conversation also touches on U.S.–Cuba policy, Cuban American political influence, and the role of Secretary of State Marco Rubio in shaping foreign policy toward the island.
The discussion then shifts to Venezuela, where Perez describes a more optimistic trajectory following leadership changes, noting economic improvement and increased stability, but warns that the absence of clear plans for democratic elections remains a significant concern. He emphasizes that without free and fair elections, Venezuela risks reverting to authoritarian governance, underscoring broader themes of democracy, socialism, and U.S. influence in Latin America.
Domestically, the interview covers Florida redistricting and election strategy, with Perez explaining that recent map changes reflect population growth and shifting demographics rather than purely partisan goals. He highlights Florida’s economic growth, migration trends, and tax advantages as key drivers of its political momentum, while acknowledging that legal challenges to the new maps are likely. This segment ties into broader national conversations about redistricting battles, midterm election implications, and Republican electoral strategy.
Throughout Hour 2, the hosts also revisit lighter but recurring show elements, including humorous discussions about animal intelligence, military rumors involving dolphins, and cultural commentary, while using these tangents to reinforce their broader narrative about Iran’s weakened military position and the unconventional threats being reported. The hour concludes with continued debate over energy policy solutions and voter sentiment, as callers express frustration with high fuel prices and question whether current policies truly benefit everyday Americans. Clay defends his focus on increasing supply and restoring global shipping, while acknowledging broader economic pressures such as rising living costs and consumer frustration, framing energy affordability as a defining issue heading into upcoming elections.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.
We'll have some updates for you on Tennessee redistricting battle,
which is underway. Also more from Trump at the White House,
not just on Iran but on the economy. On Tariff's
presidential fitness test, I hope it's age bracketed right, because
(00:22):
I was like, I don't know what, I don't know.
I could I pass this thing right now? Probably we
got to look at this thing. I don't want to
make any promise. Believe you never did the presidential fitness test,
though I thought everybody had to do this back in
the day. Play my high school. If you gathered together
all of the kids who are getting wedgies and we're like,
I'm the valedictorian getting shoved in a locker. That was
(00:44):
my high school. Not a lot of presidential fitness tests
going on there. Uh, and let's see, we've got more
primarily in elementary school. But but I'm sure it was
elementary school version. Oh yeah, Oh, we definitely do it. Yeah,
oh yeah, like young kids stuff. Yeah. I've always said
the best thing that we had when I was growing
up in elementary school at St. David's in New York
(01:06):
City was mandatory and just hear me out. Mandatory wrestling
starting in first grade and we really they actually really
taught us and it was and then we had to wrestle.
You didn't have a choice. It was like part of
our pe program basically, and if you were good enough,
you had to wrestle in front of the whole school.
And it was like it was like royal rumble stuff
(01:26):
in the third fourth grade. And you didn't want to
get punked, like you didn't want to look like a
little you know, uh, some kind of dancing daisy out there,
so you had to you had to be ready to
throw down and uh and yeah it was. It was good.
And then later on in life you're like, you basically
have the the you have the basics of grappling taught
to Clay. Can I tell you what's funn about it?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Though?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
About five years after I graduated talking about grammar school,
they got rid of it because parents complained that it
was too violent. So US zennials, gen X millennials, early millennials,
we are a little more hardcore. You get a little
bit older, and all of a sudden they're like, eh,
gen Z was like, eh, my shoulder hurts. So I'm
(02:07):
just saying, gen Z, you got you gotta tough en
up a little bit. Gen X continues to save the world,
But that's a whole nother discussion. Are you generations good?
I can't. Yeah, you're the oldest millennial basically, right, the
oldest you can be and be considered a millennial. Yeah,
so I'm I'm people call it a zenial, like a
gen X millennial. Uh so I'm as old as you
(02:29):
can be. I wanted to just get this out there
because we were talking animals before crocodiles. Some of you
are like, stop it, talk about talk about taxes and
Trump and the agenda, and I hear you, and we're
gonna get to that. But also some of you are like,
let's talk about animals, way more popular. This is what
the data reflects. I guarantee you the spike as soon
as you said, like, somebody got killed by crocodile in
South Africa and there were six shoes inside. There's not
(02:52):
one radio that went off. Everybody's like, spiked. This is
what the data reflects. Yeah, Joint chiefs, Okay, this is
a real thing in the news. I'm not making this up.
Clay mentioned yesterday dolphins possibly being deployed by Iran. There's
some news reporting on this. I'm just bringing you the news, everybody.
I don't make a news I report. The Journal reported
(03:14):
that Iran had threatened us with mine laying dolphins in
and read I mean, I took a picture because I
knew people were going to think I'm crazy. I took
a picture and then I highlighted it, which is about
as good as I can do on my phone tech wise,
and then I tweeted it out because I'm like, things
are probably not going great for Iran if they're threatening
(03:35):
us with dolphins and minds. But this was a real thing. Ah,
So these sick sons of guns, like, leave the dolphins
out of it. You know, they're actually considered, I believe,
one of the five most intelligent animals on Earth when
they measure animal intelligence, which is a tough thing to
do in a lot of ways, but one of the ways.
And keep in mind killer whales. People talk about how
(03:57):
freakishly smart they are. They're just large. They're just really
big dolphins. They're actually technically not whales. They're in the
dolphin family. We just call them whales because they're so large,
So now think about that. And also interesting that killer
whales can kill great white sharks can even remove their liver,
which is with like an incision. I don't even know
how the heck that happens, and have never once in
(04:20):
the wild, never once attacked a human being, mistake, and
a human being for a seal. Gives you a sense
of the difference in intelligence between sharks, which, to Clay's point,
will sometimes mistake us for seals. At least that's what
we believe. The great white shark attacks are often the
result of killer whales are like, no, that's Clay, Travis.
Look at them. Clay, you've been in the gym lately.
You know that the great white I mean, the killer
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whales are a whole other level of intelligence. But dolphins, obviously,
chimpanzees and some of the great apes they call them chimpanzees,
and then actually orangutangs are the very top of the
animal intelligence scale. Dolphins slash killer whales, super high on
that there are people say that crows are freakishly smart too,
(05:01):
which you would not expect crows and ravens in the
bird family, but they have a particularly high intelligence for
an animal that you wouldn't expect with given the size
of their brain. Okay, I'm getting weird here. Point is,
Joint Chiefs Chairman was asked about as about this whole
dolphins thing. Pete Hexeth was at the conference too, obviously.
(05:24):
Secretary of War cut two play it.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Can you kind of clarify these reports of Kamakazi dolphins
that we've heard about.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I haven't heard the kama Kaki dolphins thing. It's like
sharks with laser beams. And I can't confirm or deny
whether we have Kamakazi dolphins, but I can confirm they don't.
I can confirm that there was the Soviets at one point.
I believe we're experimenting with Kamakazi dolphins. I think that
was a thing Soviet era trying to train play And
(05:54):
here is there's two laser beams. This is from Austin
powers play three. You know, we have one simple request,
and that is to have sharks with fricking laser beams
attached to their heads. Now have a deadly my cyclop.
The colleague informs me that that can't be done.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
A clue.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Remind me what I pay you people for. Honestly, thrown
me upone here, what do we have? See this clay doctor?
Evil couldn't get sharks with laser beams. I don't think
the Iranians can get dolphins with explosives attached to them.
I'm pretty confident it is probably a sign that things
(06:33):
are not going great for Ron that they have no
air force, they have no military really in terms of navy,
and President Trump said today we basically wiped out all
the small boat fleet that they might have as well.
And now, according to the Wall Street Journal, and that
was a couple of days ago, they were threatening us
(06:54):
with dolphins that might have bombs on them. And this
all comes back to look, I mean, you and I
I think are correct in saying that the price of
oil and gas right now is the number one story domestically.
Is that fair to say? I know, we got a
lot of primaries. We want you to go vote in
Indiana and Ohio. Redistricting continues to be a story, But
(07:17):
in terms of how people feel, I think the number
one story is affordability. And the number one way that
people determine to a large extent affordability is what does
it cost to fill up oil and gas tanks? And
So this is where my talking about the insurance idea
for the United States being the insurer of choice when
(07:40):
it comes to the straight of four moves. I was
just looking at a map during the commercial the end
of the hour break that we had buck Most of
these tankers right now are basically just parked off the
coast of Dubai. There are hundreds of tankers that are
just anchored off the coast of Dubai and they are
all sitting there because the risk from their perspective of
(08:04):
going through the strait is too high right now. And
you think that if we changed the insurance carrier, they
would be willing to just go. I think that there
are I do, and I understand some people think that's crazy,
but I'm trying to look at it as a rational
(08:26):
business based decision. The ship that is not moving is
costing all of these companies a substantial dollar figure, and
so if you're just parked off the coaster. So my
belief is if there were a worst case scenario removed.
And this is from a business perspective, not a life perspective,
(08:46):
although I don't want anybody to die as well, but
the worst case scenario from a business perspective. Thank you
very that's very good of you. By the way, I'm
glad you said that. You know, even light them up,
Linda is like Clay, slow down, buddy. The worst case
scenario from a business persponfive is ship gets attacked, it sinks,
and you had a caller who I thought did a
good job breaking it down cargo, what's at worth? What's
(09:07):
the ship worth? And so the insurance to me, if
you knew worst case scenario, we're going to be able
to be compensated for the value of that ship. Right now.
My understanding, Buck, is that many insurers, as that call
just said, have notified the bank and the owners of
(09:27):
these ships and said we are not going to pay
in the event that something happens to your ship. A
lot of these and I used to work on some
of these contracts. A lot of these contracts have war
clauses in them and risk clauses in them, and your
insurer will notify you and say, hey, this is a
(09:48):
risk that we are not willing to take on. If
you go and something bad happens, that's on you. I
think if you told these owners, hey, we will protect you,
they would take. Now the challenge So what what insurer?
What insurer? Clay hold on, I'm hearing you out on this,
but I think it's a little crazy. What insurer is
(10:10):
going to ensure the boats? If they say, okay, we're insured,
they go and one of them gets blown up, No,
it's the United States. That's why. Who's going to sleep in?
Then we are publicly saying to all of these ship
owners we will ensure your boat. So if your boat
is if your boat is sunk and attacked, then the
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United States, the full faith and credit of the United
States backbenches it. My argument is that if we do that,
oil and gas prices will immediately overnight drop about twenty bucks. Yes,
but what happens when a ship gets blown up? We're
to oil and gas prices go? Then what ships are?
What ships are going to want to go through after
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one of them is at the bottom of the strait? Well,
I think if we guarantee fifty million dollars in payment
to all of the ships, then I think a lot
of the ship owners will go. I think they'll go.
Do we have any shipowners who can verify that? My
im off. Do we have any ship owners out there
that will verify my idea on this. Look, there are
(11:16):
different Now. My concern is if you want me to
play this out, Yes, a ship could get sunk. That's
not ideal. So far, that hasn't happened. So far, that
hasn't happened. He's so blase about this, He's like ecological disaster.
Oil everywhere the whole streets. Sep sink all the time.
(11:36):
If iron sinks a ship, remember, hey, hold on ship,
ships sink all the time. I mean, I lived in
the Caribbean. There's ships everywhere. I mean, this is read
to read a history books. This is We're not talking
about a pleasure yacht with three spring breakers on it.
We're talking about him. You remember when the cruise ship
hit the coral off the coast of Italy. It was
(11:59):
like a four hundred million dollars ship. Yeah, and the
guy called him. He was like, get in the back
of too, you're a ship and what are you doing.
I mean, I that was probably the worst thing that's
ever happened to a cruise ship. They're like, what, what's
the worst thing that could happen? You're more on, captain
could hit coral and sink the whole thing. I mean,
I'm not counting that you don't want you don't want
one of the super Mario brothers to be the one
(12:20):
in charge of your ship. That's what you're not a
good idea, true, But the ship risk is is why
I think no one is going. So I think if
we took the financial risk away, that you would go.
And honestly, if Iran then hits a ship, right, if
they attack a ship and they create an ecological disaster,
(12:42):
that's not good. But also even the environmentalist would then
be on the side of Trump because Trump's gonna be
saving all the animals and Iran has just polluted the
entire the entire strait of war moves with oil and gas.
So I think we are creating a situation where Iran
(13:02):
is clearly the terror actor if we're saying we want
commerce to occur. Now, my concern is still once the
ships leave, they don't go back, and that then creates
a larger issue because the whole point of the strait
existing is for people to go the whole action. That
is kind of the whole issue, Clay, because just we
(13:24):
get the ships to go once, that's almost like a
rescue operation. The point is they need to be willing
to come back. If they're not willing to come back,
the strait's not open. But I think we buy ourselves
a lot of time economically if that, If those ships
are able to come through, oil and gas drops twenty
bucks overnight, and we then have a full month probably
(13:46):
before most of those ships are completing their their transit
and have to make a decision. Okay, where do we
go get oil and gas next? And my hope would
be that we can start to produce more oil and
gas parts of the country. I was reading about Venezuela
right now. Things are going really well. Every company is
now flooding into Venezuela. How much more can we increase
(14:07):
production there? How much more can we increase production in
the United States? You AE has said we're gonna drop
out an OPEC meeting. They can produce more. That's the
story there. I'm just telling I'm trying to solve the
energy on issue in America, and I think my insurance
idea has some legs here. I wish we could get
you on like the little handheld radio that the captains
(14:29):
of the ships always have, and have you give a
little pep talk to all these tankers, be like, look,
not all of you are gonna make it, but price
of gas is gonna go down twenty bucks overnight if
a few of you do so. Have at it. Boys,
We got a bunch of callers who want to weigh
in on this too, because I think this is a
brilliant idea. Sometimes the line between genius and insanity, as
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in California. You've got a flaw with my idea fire away.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
It's actually a fatal flaw. So insurance guy here, long
license insurance agent, not terribly active, but I do know
that on any insurance policy homeowners commercial, especially a maritime
insurance covering ships. I hate to cut the legs out
(16:34):
of your theory that has legs quote unquote, but acts
of war are always specifically excluded. So I'm not sure
the United States.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Well, that's something that's my whole point I'm solving the
problem of acts of war being excluded by the United
States in a time of war, saying we will be
the insurer instead of private insurance companies, which are not
willing to take this risk.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
See, so we should be on that for something an
insurance company wouldn't cover.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Well, I mean the theory. The first of all, thanks
for the call. I don't think very many people out
there are like you know who, I love insurance companies,
say be nice to our insurance agents, sir, love our
insurance agents. I will just say, uh, the point of
this is why it's just getting testy, because that guy's like,
(17:26):
I sunk your battleship and plays like I mean he's
he called in thinking that he had expect he's actually
addressing what I recognized as the flaw. And the solution
that I provided is the regular insurance companies will not
cover this, so we should, which you basically want to
bail out. You want to bail out of oil tankers,
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. First time on the program.
We are joined by Daniel Perez. He's Speaker of the
Florida House of Representatives. He's the third Cuban American speaker
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of the Florida House. We have some stuff I'm going
to talk to speak of Perez about right now. Thank
you so much for being here, sir. Good to have
you on.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
It's my pleasure. How are you.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
We're good. So let's jump into We've got a couple
of things here. First off, we have a little bit
of foreign business, and then we want to talk to
you about some Florida business. You are Cuban American. You
are certainly tied in here as my near neighbor in
South Florida, to the Cuban American community. Right now, there's
not a lot of attention. Trump mentions it sometimes from
the White House that he's got plans for Cuba. What
(19:27):
is the situation of the island and where do you
think the administration should go with this as it pertains
to Cuba.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Well, look, it might not be on the national spotlight consistently,
but it is down here in Miami, and we're a
diverse community down here. But obviously, as you know, mostly
Cuban Americans are Cubans that have to leave the island,
my parents included. My parents have to leave in nineteen
sixty nine. The revolution took over in nineteen fifty nine,
and since then the island has been decimated by this
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regime that has taken away human rights, the most any
other things from the people of Cuba. Where we stand
today is Cuba is at an all time low. There
is no oil, there is no energy, there is no food,
there is no health care. There is absolutely nothing on
that island. You have to think about it for a second.
For someone to be willing to get on a raft
and swim ninety miles with nothing but a compass in
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the middle of the night, how dire does the situation
have to be? And we've had we've had thousands of
people risking their lives in that exact situation for almost
one hundred years. And so where we stand here in Miami,
and I know that I speak on behalf of all
Cuban Americans, where we stand and say, look, it's time
for this regime to pick up their bag and get
the hell out of town, because that was that is
that is land that belonged to the Cuban people well
(20:40):
before they went in there and took it away. What
Trump will do with this is up in the air.
And we have some of the greatest advocates having this
conversation on behalf of the United States and on behalf
of all Cuban Americans. And obviously that's led by Secretary
Marco Rubio, who's one of our own and was the
first Cuban Americans to be Speaker of the House in Florida.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
What do you think Marco Rubio is telling President Trump.
Obviously Secretary of State, I saw that he was also,
in addition to all the other jobs that he has,
acting as a DJ at a Miami party wedding over
the weekend. What do you think Marco Rubio is telling
President Trump right now? And what does a solution look
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like from your perspective?
Speaker 4 (21:24):
And by the way, I did see that video of
him DJing at a wedding. Then the man can do
it on you can do it all. If only he
can play a little bit of quarterback. The Dolphins could
use of it.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I'd like that, no kidding.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
But look, I think the solution here has been consistent,
and that is pressure. You have to absolutely squeeze the
neck of this monster and you have to cut the
head off the snake. It's the only way that you
can succeed. And I think that's exactly what President Trump
and Secretary of Rubio are doing. The sanctions have to
double down, the flights have to stop, the money going
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into the island has to stop. And the problem that
you have, as many many Cuban Americans that are here
today say well, I still have family there and I
still want to send resources there, and what the regime
has done, and this is you know, it's it's disgusting.
But what the regime has done is they have now
replied to the United States by saying, we are going
to open up enterprise. We are going to open up
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free market in Cuba, so that Cubans can open up
a restaurant, a store, a supermarket and actually have interstate
commerce amongst Cubans. To be quite frank, that's crap. That's
not true because the way that the Cuban government works
is in order for you to go ahead and open up,
let's say a restaurant, a certain percentage has to be
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paid into the government's pocket of profit before you can
even actually open those doors or run those doors. So
there is no free market, there is no capitalism, there
is no competition. It is all owned by one umbrella
patriarch entity that's owned by the Cuban government. And from there,
these smaller enterprises are able to quote unquote open up
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their own businesses. But that's bull crap. None of them
are actually able to have their own business. But it's
a facade that the regime has put in place in
order to appease the Americans. The problem that they have
is that the Americans, led by Secretary of Rubio, know
the truth. And so what I expect Secretary of Rubio
and the President to do is to continue to squeeze
the neck as tight as they can until the Cuban
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people themselves have finally realized we are done. We are
done starving, we are done having to listen to this
regime that has taken away our own freedom. It is
time to act, and hopefully that happens sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
We're speaking to Daniel Perez, Speaker of the Florida House,
something related to all this. Of course, we also have
down here in South Florida a very large Venezuelan American population. Now,
the situation in Venezuela, mister Speaker, seems like it is
trending in the right direction. Dlsea Rodriguez is in charge
after the capture of Maduro. Sounds like she's at least
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playing ball with America in a way that is encouraging.
What do you see and what's that looking like for
the Venezuelan American community.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Well, first and foremost, I think the President deserves a
lot of credit for making the tough decision, which was
the right decision and I was taken out Nicolas Maludu.
That was the right decision that I don't think any
other president would have had the courage to do. And
so I think that has to be mentioned first and foremost.
As far as the current state of Venezuela, Venezuela today
is in a way, way more prosperous situation than they
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were a year ago. I don't think anyone can debate that.
The Venezuelans can't debate that. I mean that they are
in a phenomenal place. Their economy is booming like never before,
and all of that credit goes to Secretary and President Trump.
Here's my concern with Venezuela. My concern with Venezuela was
a comment that was made by Delsa in the last
i'd say seven or eight days when she was asked
on when is the next election to duly elect, based
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on a democratic provision, the next president of Venezuela, and
her response was, I don't know when that's going to happen.
And that's concerning because without fair and accurate and open elections,
then eventually they'll just go back to what they know better,
which is that socialist ideology that got them in this
place to begin with, that started with Ugo Chavas and
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eventually was ran by Nicolas Madluto and potentially by Delsie.
Unless we have free and fair elections to eventually put
a new leader in Venezuela that can have a true
democracy and bring capitalism back to this country. I have
no doubts that Secretary Rubio and President Trump aren't going
to allow her to get away with that, and elections
will have to take place. But what I didn't like
is it was the first time that I saw her
not in line with what the American vision is. We
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care about our elections, we are so we treat our
right to vote, our civil rights to vote as such
a sacred opportunity, and in the rest of the world
they don't see it the same way. Our hope is
that Venezuelan's and really Delsi sees it the same way.
And I have no doubt that the President and the
Secretary are going to get her there. But that first
response was something that wasn't music to my ears.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Tell us about the new map. I know that the
Florida House and the Florida Senate have put in place
a new map that certainly is going to potentially lead
to more Republican seats. What should we know about that
map and what do you anticipate the result of the
map will be.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Well, so this is a map that was passed by
the House and eventually passed by the Senate and recently
signed by the governor. It was a map that was
drawn by the governor. I don't want to speak on
me after the governor's office, but they were the ones
that drew it. But I don't think this was a
map drawn on trying to give certain seats to certain
parties or certain parts of the state. I just think that,
you know, we believe, based on the recent court rulings,
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that we have an opportunity to have a conversation on redistricting,
on our mid decade redistricting, and so that's exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
What we did. You know where that ends up.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I guess only the voters will be able to tell
us on how many seats may go may go one
way or another, and we won't know that until November.
But you know, I think that we did our job.
I think the last redistricting cycle was under a census
that that may have potentially been flawed and Fororta has
had an influx of people moving here really because of
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the way that we've been running our government for a decade.
Think it was very easy for elected officials today that
take credit for the prosperous economy that Florida has. But
you know, we have to take this back for decades.
You have to talk about a Governor Bush, you have
to talk about a Governor Scott. Those were the ones
that kind of started putting the wheels in motion. When
you talk about Rick Scott and the amount of jobs
that he brought into the state, that was unprecedented. We
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haven't seen it since. As a matter of fact, right now,
our job our unemployer rate is going up in the
state of Florida. That never happened in the Rick Scott
and so, you know, I think that sometimes people want
to focus on the now, but I always have to
give credit to how we got here. And so now
we're in this place to where a lot of people
are moving to Florida. They want to live here. Obviously,
our tax structure is one of the best in the country.
We have a great economy, and so people want to
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be here. So I think us having the conversation on
redistricting was the right one, and I applaud the governor
for drying the map. And I'm sure there'll be plenty
of lowsuits down the pipeline and we'll see where.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
This ends up.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
You're ahead of the Florida House. But Buck and I
saw you most recently at the Indiana Miami game where
Indiana won the national title. You mentioned the Dolphin. Who
are you more optimistic about the Miami Hurricanes or the
Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Well, here, I have a problem with this question because
I'm a Miami kid that went to Florida State, and
so I'm rooting for the Seminoles every day of the week,
no matter what.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Right, let me start you with that whore. Even a
better question is a better question? Who is going to
win a title? First, Florida State or Miami. Will Florida
State be in the playoffs or Miami the Dolphins be
in the play I'm not even gonna ask about Super Bowl.
Poor Miami Dolphin fans. You guys are still pining for
Dan Marino. Uh but but who will make the playoffs first,
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the Dolphins or the Seminoles.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
I'm going with the Seminoles, but damn they both think
right now, I have no hope not their team has
a hole. I think the Dolphins are gonna have a
rough season, but we're hoping for the best. You know,
if Steve Ross does a great job of owning the
team and he's put some money into the team, and
hopefully he can turn it around with the new management there.
But but I'm a seminole at Harden. I'm a believer
in Mike Norvell. I just I love football across the board.
But there's absolutely nothing like watching college football on a
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Saturday morning. But it's better when the Sumins are winning.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
In my opinion, I think you and Clay just became
best friends. Daniel Perez, Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives, Hey, man,
come back because we want to talk to you about
more Florida business and also as the Cuba situation unfolds.
But thanks for being here.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Thank youre guys.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
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Buck Sexton Show. People want to weigh in variety of
different topics. Let me run through some of these as
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we finish off our number two of the Tuesday edition.
Grant in North Dakota. What you got, grant, Hey, Clay.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
These bombastic views and statements of just sending people in
the ships to get cheaper.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Stop.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It's getting to be disgusting. And another point I reference.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
That hold on, hold on bump disgusting. What is disgusting
about trying to get gas prices.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Down because it's not reality?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Clay?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Why is it? Why is it not reality? To say
the number one reason why ships are not going through
right now is fear From a business perspective, What is
the fear based on that the ships may be attacked
and that the business owner might lose their ship. Why
do people have insurance on the ships in the first place?
(31:58):
It is to ensure and provide security in the event
of disaster. So if you analyze them, if that is
clearly the issue, why the strait of hor moves the
ship owners are clustered right now at Dubai. If you're
trying to solve the problem, and the number one problem
is fear of loss, which is the reason why people
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have insurance why is the government not stepping in and
providing security in the fear of loss? Not a potential
solution to the issue.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
The government in the United States government keeps subsidizing the
rest of the world. The American tax payer, that's who
it is, is subsidizing the entire world.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
And not pause for pause for a second. If insurance
is provided, theoretically the ships start to move again and
the price of oil and gas collapses. So the average
American consumer, if the insurance is put in place, would
actually benefit fit substantially by a decline in oil and
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gas prices. This is a very logical idea. You might
not like it, you might think it's not going to work,
but the actual mechanics of a solution for a problem.
If you believe that one hundred dollars barrel of oil
and gas is a problem, how do we fix it?
This is a solution that could very well fix it.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
The big CEOs of this country have shipped out everything
overseas to make us rely on all these I mean,
look at pharmaceuticals fertilized.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
But hold on, Actually that doesn't apply for oil and
gas because thanks to policies like the ones that have
been put in place by President Trump. We actually are
energy and dependent, which means that we produce more oil
and gas right here in the good old USA than
ever in the history of the nation. And we are
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currently pumping and producing more oil and gas right now
than ever in the history of the nation.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Right, Clay. But there's a disconnect here because you're always
referencing we're producing the most. Yet the consumer, the legal
American voting citizen, is paying the malls, and they're going
to be frustrated and come the midterms.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
So okay, So hold on, you're calling in. Hold on,
you've called in and you are complaining about oil and
gas prices. I'm trying to help get oil and gas
prices down. So what is your solution, Clay?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
You're you're you're willing to just shove people out and
kill them. I mean that seems bold.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
So what what Okay, you're upset about oil and gas prices.
What is your solution, Clay? We have to have.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
More domestic stuff produced here, manufacturing oil? Uh you know
you guys touch Okay the reference of.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
So you want okay, but hold on, We're at an
all time record high of oil and gas production, right,
So you want us to go to an even higher
level of oil and gas production. I don't disagree. I
think President Trump is trying to put in policies in
place to make that happen.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Look, North Dakota is what number one or two? And
no it's not number one.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Texas is.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
In oil production, yet we paid some of the highest
fuel prices in the country, yet we're pumping it out
of our backyard. That's the problem. It's the disconnect of
what Americans are paying. And you can tell them all that, hey,
stock market's up, the oil is all record production, but
they still are not earning. They're not feeling it because
of groceries and all this. It's all tied together.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It's hugely okay, But so oil and gas prices on
February twenty eighth, we're down substantially. Now they're up. I
guess I get that, all right? So what okay, So
you've called in and your what is what is your point?
I guess.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Clay it it's on this show. You're being a little
disconnected with just let's just send him in.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Let's get this up.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Let's ensure it. We're gonna go, We're gonna get cheaper
gas prices. It's a good cheerleading thing. And don't get
me wrong, like we all want that right, it's just
the captain of the ship is in charge of those
lives and if they say no, they're not going, Hey,
you want you think you're gonna train up a bunch
of cats to go get into a war zone, You're
not gonna That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Okay, thanks for the call. I'm not really sure producer Greg,
did he have a point. I'm not really sure what
is uh what his take was there. I don't think
he I don't think he's an SEC football fan. That's real,
that's the bottom line. I mean, I think he's like
a big like a Big ten fan or something, and
he's just poking you
The second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.
We'll have some updates for you on Tennessee redistricting battle,
which is underway. Also more from Trump at the White House,
not just on Iran but on the economy. On Tariff's
presidential fitness test, I hope it's age bracketed right, because
(00:22):
I was like, I don't know what, I don't know.
I could I pass this thing right now? Probably we
got to look at this thing. I don't want to
make any promise. Believe you never did the presidential fitness test,
though I thought everybody had to do this back in
the day. Play my high school. If you gathered together
all of the kids who are getting wedgies and we're like,
I'm the valedictorian getting shoved in a locker. That was
(00:44):
my high school. Not a lot of presidential fitness tests
going on there. Uh, and let's see, we've got more
primarily in elementary school. But but I'm sure it was
elementary school version. Oh yeah, Oh, we definitely do it. Yeah,
oh yeah, like young kids stuff. Yeah. I've always said
the best thing that we had when I was growing
up in elementary school at St. David's in New York
(01:06):
City was mandatory and just hear me out. Mandatory wrestling
starting in first grade and we really they actually really
taught us and it was and then we had to wrestle.
You didn't have a choice. It was like part of
our pe program basically, and if you were good enough,
you had to wrestle in front of the whole school.
And it was like it was like royal rumble stuff
(01:26):
in the third fourth grade. And you didn't want to
get punked, like you didn't want to look like a
little you know, uh, some kind of dancing daisy out there,
so you had to you had to be ready to
throw down and uh and yeah it was. It was good.
And then later on in life you're like, you basically
have the the you have the basics of grappling taught
to Clay. Can I tell you what's funn about it?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Though?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
About five years after I graduated talking about grammar school,
they got rid of it because parents complained that it
was too violent. So US zennials, gen X millennials, early millennials,
we are a little more hardcore. You get a little
bit older, and all of a sudden they're like, eh,
gen Z was like, eh, my shoulder hurts. So I'm
(02:07):
just saying, gen Z, you got you gotta tough en
up a little bit. Gen X continues to save the world,
But that's a whole nother discussion. Are you generations good?
I can't. Yeah, you're the oldest millennial basically, right, the
oldest you can be and be considered a millennial. Yeah,
so I'm I'm people call it a zenial, like a
gen X millennial. Uh so I'm as old as you
(02:29):
can be. I wanted to just get this out there
because we were talking animals before crocodiles. Some of you
are like, stop it, talk about talk about taxes and
Trump and the agenda, and I hear you, and we're
gonna get to that. But also some of you are like,
let's talk about animals, way more popular. This is what
the data reflects. I guarantee you the spike as soon
as you said, like, somebody got killed by crocodile in
South Africa and there were six shoes inside. There's not
(02:52):
one radio that went off. Everybody's like, spiked. This is
what the data reflects. Yeah, Joint chiefs, Okay, this is
a real thing in the news. I'm not making this up.
Clay mentioned yesterday dolphins possibly being deployed by Iran. There's
some news reporting on this. I'm just bringing you the news, everybody.
I don't make a news I report. The Journal reported
(03:14):
that Iran had threatened us with mine laying dolphins in
and read I mean, I took a picture because I
knew people were going to think I'm crazy. I took
a picture and then I highlighted it, which is about
as good as I can do on my phone tech wise,
and then I tweeted it out because I'm like, things
are probably not going great for Iran if they're threatening
(03:35):
us with dolphins and minds. But this was a real thing. Ah,
So these sick sons of guns, like, leave the dolphins
out of it. You know, they're actually considered, I believe,
one of the five most intelligent animals on Earth when
they measure animal intelligence, which is a tough thing to
do in a lot of ways, but one of the ways.
And keep in mind killer whales. People talk about how
(03:57):
freakishly smart they are. They're just large. They're just really
big dolphins. They're actually technically not whales. They're in the
dolphin family. We just call them whales because they're so large,
So now think about that. And also interesting that killer
whales can kill great white sharks can even remove their liver,
which is with like an incision. I don't even know
how the heck that happens, and have never once in
(04:20):
the wild, never once attacked a human being, mistake, and
a human being for a seal. Gives you a sense
of the difference in intelligence between sharks, which, to Clay's point,
will sometimes mistake us for seals. At least that's what
we believe. The great white shark attacks are often the
result of killer whales are like, no, that's Clay, Travis.
Look at them. Clay, you've been in the gym lately.
You know that the great white I mean, the killer
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whales are a whole other level of intelligence. But dolphins, obviously,
chimpanzees and some of the great apes they call them chimpanzees,
and then actually orangutangs are the very top of the
animal intelligence scale. Dolphins slash killer whales, super high on
that there are people say that crows are freakishly smart too,
(05:01):
which you would not expect crows and ravens in the
bird family, but they have a particularly high intelligence for
an animal that you wouldn't expect with given the size
of their brain. Okay, I'm getting weird here. Point is,
Joint Chiefs Chairman was asked about as about this whole
dolphins thing. Pete Hexeth was at the conference too, obviously.
(05:24):
Secretary of War cut two play it.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Can you kind of clarify these reports of Kamakazi dolphins
that we've heard about.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I haven't heard the kama Kaki dolphins thing. It's like
sharks with laser beams. And I can't confirm or deny
whether we have Kamakazi dolphins, but I can confirm they don't.
I can confirm that there was the Soviets at one point.
I believe we're experimenting with Kamakazi dolphins. I think that
was a thing Soviet era trying to train play And
(05:54):
here is there's two laser beams. This is from Austin
powers play three. You know, we have one simple request,
and that is to have sharks with fricking laser beams
attached to their heads. Now have a deadly my cyclop.
The colleague informs me that that can't be done.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
A clue.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Remind me what I pay you people for. Honestly, thrown
me upone here, what do we have? See this clay doctor?
Evil couldn't get sharks with laser beams. I don't think
the Iranians can get dolphins with explosives attached to them.
I'm pretty confident it is probably a sign that things
(06:33):
are not going great for Ron that they have no
air force, they have no military really in terms of navy,
and President Trump said today we basically wiped out all
the small boat fleet that they might have as well.
And now, according to the Wall Street Journal, and that
was a couple of days ago, they were threatening us
(06:54):
with dolphins that might have bombs on them. And this
all comes back to look, I mean, you and I
I think are correct in saying that the price of
oil and gas right now is the number one story domestically.
Is that fair to say? I know, we got a
lot of primaries. We want you to go vote in
Indiana and Ohio. Redistricting continues to be a story, But
(07:17):
in terms of how people feel, I think the number
one story is affordability. And the number one way that
people determine to a large extent affordability is what does
it cost to fill up oil and gas tanks? And
So this is where my talking about the insurance idea
for the United States being the insurer of choice when
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it comes to the straight of four moves. I was
just looking at a map during the commercial the end
of the hour break that we had buck Most of
these tankers right now are basically just parked off the
coast of Dubai. There are hundreds of tankers that are
just anchored off the coast of Dubai and they are
all sitting there because the risk from their perspective of
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going through the strait is too high right now. And
you think that if we changed the insurance carrier, they
would be willing to just go. I think that there
are I do, and I understand some people think that's crazy,
but I'm trying to look at it as a rational
(08:26):
business based decision. The ship that is not moving is
costing all of these companies a substantial dollar figure, and
so if you're just parked off the coaster. So my
belief is if there were a worst case scenario removed.
And this is from a business perspective, not a life perspective,
(08:46):
although I don't want anybody to die as well, but
the worst case scenario from a business perspective. Thank you
very that's very good of you. By the way, I'm
glad you said that. You know, even light them up,
Linda is like Clay, slow down, buddy. The worst case
scenario from a business persponfive is ship gets attacked, it sinks,
and you had a caller who I thought did a
good job breaking it down cargo, what's at worth? What's
(09:07):
the ship worth? And so the insurance to me, if
you knew worst case scenario, we're going to be able
to be compensated for the value of that ship. Right now.
My understanding, Buck, is that many insurers, as that call
just said, have notified the bank and the owners of
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these ships and said we are not going to pay
in the event that something happens to your ship. A
lot of these and I used to work on some
of these contracts. A lot of these contracts have war
clauses in them and risk clauses in them, and your
insurer will notify you and say, hey, this is a
(09:48):
risk that we are not willing to take on. If
you go and something bad happens, that's on you. I
think if you told these owners, hey, we will protect you,
they would take. Now the challenge So what what insurer?
What insurer? Clay hold on, I'm hearing you out on this,
but I think it's a little crazy. What insurer is
(10:10):
going to ensure the boats? If they say, okay, we're insured,
they go and one of them gets blown up, No,
it's the United States. That's why. Who's going to sleep in?
Then we are publicly saying to all of these ship
owners we will ensure your boat. So if your boat
is if your boat is sunk and attacked, then the
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United States, the full faith and credit of the United
States backbenches it. My argument is that if we do that,
oil and gas prices will immediately overnight drop about twenty bucks. Yes,
but what happens when a ship gets blown up? We're
to oil and gas prices go? Then what ships are?
What ships are going to want to go through after
(10:54):
one of them is at the bottom of the strait? Well,
I think if we guarantee fifty million dollars in payment
to all of the ships, then I think a lot
of the ship owners will go. I think they'll go.
Do we have any shipowners who can verify that? My
im off. Do we have any ship owners out there
that will verify my idea on this. Look, there are
(11:16):
different Now. My concern is if you want me to
play this out, Yes, a ship could get sunk. That's
not ideal. So far, that hasn't happened. So far, that
hasn't happened. He's so blase about this, He's like ecological disaster.
Oil everywhere the whole streets. Sep sink all the time.
(11:36):
If iron sinks a ship, remember, hey, hold on ship,
ships sink all the time. I mean, I lived in
the Caribbean. There's ships everywhere. I mean, this is read
to read a history books. This is We're not talking
about a pleasure yacht with three spring breakers on it.
We're talking about him. You remember when the cruise ship
hit the coral off the coast of Italy. It was
(11:59):
like a four hundred million dollars ship. Yeah, and the
guy called him. He was like, get in the back
of too, you're a ship and what are you doing.
I mean, I that was probably the worst thing that's
ever happened to a cruise ship. They're like, what, what's
the worst thing that could happen? You're more on, captain
could hit coral and sink the whole thing. I mean,
I'm not counting that you don't want you don't want
one of the super Mario brothers to be the one
(12:20):
in charge of your ship. That's what you're not a
good idea, true, But the ship risk is is why
I think no one is going. So I think if
we took the financial risk away, that you would go.
And honestly, if Iran then hits a ship, right, if
they attack a ship and they create an ecological disaster,
(12:42):
that's not good. But also even the environmentalist would then
be on the side of Trump because Trump's gonna be
saving all the animals and Iran has just polluted the
entire the entire strait of war moves with oil and gas.
So I think we are creating a situation where Iran
(13:02):
is clearly the terror actor if we're saying we want
commerce to occur. Now, my concern is still once the
ships leave, they don't go back, and that then creates
a larger issue because the whole point of the strait
existing is for people to go the whole action. That
is kind of the whole issue, Clay, because just we
(13:24):
get the ships to go once, that's almost like a
rescue operation. The point is they need to be willing
to come back. If they're not willing to come back,
the strait's not open. But I think we buy ourselves
a lot of time economically if that, If those ships
are able to come through, oil and gas drops twenty
bucks overnight, and we then have a full month probably
(13:46):
before most of those ships are completing their their transit
and have to make a decision. Okay, where do we
go get oil and gas next? And my hope would
be that we can start to produce more oil and
gas parts of the country. I was reading about Venezuela
right now. Things are going really well. Every company is
now flooding into Venezuela. How much more can we increase
(14:07):
production there? How much more can we increase production in
the United States? You AE has said we're gonna drop
out an OPEC meeting. They can produce more. That's the
story there. I'm just telling I'm trying to solve the
energy on issue in America, and I think my insurance
idea has some legs here. I wish we could get
you on like the little handheld radio that the captains
(14:29):
of the ships always have, and have you give a
little pep talk to all these tankers, be like, look,
not all of you are gonna make it, but price
of gas is gonna go down twenty bucks overnight if
a few of you do so. Have at it. Boys,
We got a bunch of callers who want to weigh
in on this too, because I think this is a
brilliant idea. Sometimes the line between genius and insanity, as
(14:52):
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Speaker 3 (16:14):
It's actually a fatal flaw. So insurance guy here, long
license insurance agent, not terribly active, but I do know
that on any insurance policy homeowners commercial, especially a maritime
insurance covering ships. I hate to cut the legs out
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of your theory that has legs quote unquote, but acts
of war are always specifically excluded. So I'm not sure
the United States.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Well, that's something that's my whole point I'm solving the
problem of acts of war being excluded by the United
States in a time of war, saying we will be
the insurer instead of private insurance companies, which are not
willing to take this risk.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
See, so we should be on that for something an
insurance company wouldn't cover.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Well, I mean the theory. The first of all, thanks
for the call. I don't think very many people out
there are like you know who, I love insurance companies,
say be nice to our insurance agents, sir, love our
insurance agents. I will just say, uh, the point of
this is why it's just getting testy, because that guy's like,
(17:26):
I sunk your battleship and plays like I mean he's
he called in thinking that he had expect he's actually
addressing what I recognized as the flaw. And the solution
that I provided is the regular insurance companies will not
cover this, so we should, which you basically want to
bail out. You want to bail out of oil tankers,
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is what you want. I would bail out to provide
security to oil tankers, so the price of oil and
gas for most people would come down. And I want
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. First time on the program.
We are joined by Daniel Perez. He's Speaker of the
Florida House of Representatives. He's the third Cuban American speaker
(18:55):
of the Florida House. We have some stuff I'm going
to talk to speak of Perez about right now. Thank
you so much for being here, sir. Good to have
you on.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
It's my pleasure. How are you.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
We're good. So let's jump into We've got a couple
of things here. First off, we have a little bit
of foreign business, and then we want to talk to
you about some Florida business. You are Cuban American. You
are certainly tied in here as my near neighbor in
South Florida, to the Cuban American community. Right now, there's
not a lot of attention. Trump mentions it sometimes from
the White House that he's got plans for Cuba. What
(19:27):
is the situation of the island and where do you
think the administration should go with this as it pertains
to Cuba.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Well, look, it might not be on the national spotlight consistently,
but it is down here in Miami, and we're a
diverse community down here. But obviously, as you know, mostly
Cuban Americans are Cubans that have to leave the island,
my parents included. My parents have to leave in nineteen
sixty nine. The revolution took over in nineteen fifty nine,
and since then the island has been decimated by this
(19:57):
regime that has taken away human rights, the most any
other things from the people of Cuba. Where we stand
today is Cuba is at an all time low. There
is no oil, there is no energy, there is no food,
there is no health care. There is absolutely nothing on
that island. You have to think about it for a second.
For someone to be willing to get on a raft
and swim ninety miles with nothing but a compass in
(20:18):
the middle of the night, how dire does the situation
have to be? And we've had we've had thousands of
people risking their lives in that exact situation for almost
one hundred years. And so where we stand here in Miami,
and I know that I speak on behalf of all
Cuban Americans, where we stand and say, look, it's time
for this regime to pick up their bag and get
the hell out of town, because that was that is
that is land that belonged to the Cuban people well
(20:40):
before they went in there and took it away. What
Trump will do with this is up in the air.
And we have some of the greatest advocates having this
conversation on behalf of the United States and on behalf
of all Cuban Americans. And obviously that's led by Secretary
Marco Rubio, who's one of our own and was the
first Cuban Americans to be Speaker of the House in Florida.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
What do you think Marco Rubio is telling President Trump.
Obviously Secretary of State, I saw that he was also,
in addition to all the other jobs that he has,
acting as a DJ at a Miami party wedding over
the weekend. What do you think Marco Rubio is telling
President Trump right now? And what does a solution look
(21:21):
like from your perspective?
Speaker 4 (21:24):
And by the way, I did see that video of
him DJing at a wedding. Then the man can do
it on you can do it all. If only he
can play a little bit of quarterback. The Dolphins could
use of it.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I'd like that, no kidding.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
But look, I think the solution here has been consistent,
and that is pressure. You have to absolutely squeeze the
neck of this monster and you have to cut the
head off the snake. It's the only way that you
can succeed. And I think that's exactly what President Trump
and Secretary of Rubio are doing. The sanctions have to
double down, the flights have to stop, the money going
(21:57):
into the island has to stop. And the problem that
you have, as many many Cuban Americans that are here
today say well, I still have family there and I
still want to send resources there, and what the regime
has done, and this is you know, it's it's disgusting.
But what the regime has done is they have now
replied to the United States by saying, we are going
to open up enterprise. We are going to open up
(22:18):
free market in Cuba, so that Cubans can open up
a restaurant, a store, a supermarket and actually have interstate
commerce amongst Cubans. To be quite frank, that's crap. That's
not true because the way that the Cuban government works
is in order for you to go ahead and open up,
let's say a restaurant, a certain percentage has to be
(22:39):
paid into the government's pocket of profit before you can
even actually open those doors or run those doors. So
there is no free market, there is no capitalism, there
is no competition. It is all owned by one umbrella
patriarch entity that's owned by the Cuban government. And from there,
these smaller enterprises are able to quote unquote open up
(23:00):
their own businesses. But that's bull crap. None of them
are actually able to have their own business. But it's
a facade that the regime has put in place in
order to appease the Americans. The problem that they have
is that the Americans, led by Secretary of Rubio, know
the truth. And so what I expect Secretary of Rubio
and the President to do is to continue to squeeze
the neck as tight as they can until the Cuban
(23:21):
people themselves have finally realized we are done. We are
done starving, we are done having to listen to this
regime that has taken away our own freedom. It is
time to act, and hopefully that happens sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
We're speaking to Daniel Perez, Speaker of the Florida House,
something related to all this. Of course, we also have
down here in South Florida a very large Venezuelan American population. Now,
the situation in Venezuela, mister Speaker, seems like it is
trending in the right direction. Dlsea Rodriguez is in charge
after the capture of Maduro. Sounds like she's at least
(23:53):
playing ball with America in a way that is encouraging.
What do you see and what's that looking like for
the Venezuelan American community.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Well, first and foremost, I think the President deserves a
lot of credit for making the tough decision, which was
the right decision and I was taken out Nicolas Maludu.
That was the right decision that I don't think any
other president would have had the courage to do. And
so I think that has to be mentioned first and foremost.
As far as the current state of Venezuela, Venezuela today
is in a way, way more prosperous situation than they
(24:23):
were a year ago. I don't think anyone can debate that.
The Venezuelans can't debate that. I mean that they are
in a phenomenal place. Their economy is booming like never before,
and all of that credit goes to Secretary and President Trump.
Here's my concern with Venezuela. My concern with Venezuela was
a comment that was made by Delsa in the last
i'd say seven or eight days when she was asked
on when is the next election to duly elect, based
(24:46):
on a democratic provision, the next president of Venezuela, and
her response was, I don't know when that's going to happen.
And that's concerning because without fair and accurate and open elections,
then eventually they'll just go back to what they know better,
which is that socialist ideology that got them in this
place to begin with, that started with Ugo Chavas and
(25:07):
eventually was ran by Nicolas Madluto and potentially by Delsie.
Unless we have free and fair elections to eventually put
a new leader in Venezuela that can have a true
democracy and bring capitalism back to this country. I have
no doubts that Secretary Rubio and President Trump aren't going
to allow her to get away with that, and elections
will have to take place. But what I didn't like
is it was the first time that I saw her
not in line with what the American vision is. We
(25:29):
care about our elections, we are so we treat our
right to vote, our civil rights to vote as such
a sacred opportunity, and in the rest of the world
they don't see it the same way. Our hope is
that Venezuelan's and really Delsi sees it the same way.
And I have no doubt that the President and the
Secretary are going to get her there. But that first
response was something that wasn't music to my ears.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Tell us about the new map. I know that the
Florida House and the Florida Senate have put in place
a new map that certainly is going to potentially lead
to more Republican seats. What should we know about that
map and what do you anticipate the result of the
map will be.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Well, so this is a map that was passed by
the House and eventually passed by the Senate and recently
signed by the governor. It was a map that was
drawn by the governor. I don't want to speak on
me after the governor's office, but they were the ones
that drew it. But I don't think this was a
map drawn on trying to give certain seats to certain
parties or certain parts of the state. I just think that,
you know, we believe, based on the recent court rulings,
(26:30):
that we have an opportunity to have a conversation on redistricting,
on our mid decade redistricting, and so that's exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
What we did. You know where that ends up.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I guess only the voters will be able to tell
us on how many seats may go may go one
way or another, and we won't know that until November.
But you know, I think that we did our job.
I think the last redistricting cycle was under a census
that that may have potentially been flawed and Fororta has
had an influx of people moving here really because of
(26:57):
the way that we've been running our government for a decade.
Think it was very easy for elected officials today that
take credit for the prosperous economy that Florida has. But
you know, we have to take this back for decades.
You have to talk about a Governor Bush, you have
to talk about a Governor Scott. Those were the ones
that kind of started putting the wheels in motion. When
you talk about Rick Scott and the amount of jobs
that he brought into the state, that was unprecedented. We
(27:19):
haven't seen it since. As a matter of fact, right now,
our job our unemployer rate is going up in the
state of Florida. That never happened in the Rick Scott
and so, you know, I think that sometimes people want
to focus on the now, but I always have to
give credit to how we got here. And so now
we're in this place to where a lot of people
are moving to Florida. They want to live here. Obviously,
our tax structure is one of the best in the country.
We have a great economy, and so people want to
(27:39):
be here. So I think us having the conversation on
redistricting was the right one, and I applaud the governor
for drying the map. And I'm sure there'll be plenty
of lowsuits down the pipeline and we'll see where.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
This ends up.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
You're ahead of the Florida House. But Buck and I
saw you most recently at the Indiana Miami game where
Indiana won the national title. You mentioned the Dolphin. Who
are you more optimistic about the Miami Hurricanes or the
Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Well, here, I have a problem with this question because
I'm a Miami kid that went to Florida State, and
so I'm rooting for the Seminoles every day of the week,
no matter what.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Right, let me start you with that whore. Even a
better question is a better question? Who is going to
win a title? First, Florida State or Miami. Will Florida
State be in the playoffs or Miami the Dolphins be
in the play I'm not even gonna ask about Super Bowl.
Poor Miami Dolphin fans. You guys are still pining for
Dan Marino. Uh but but who will make the playoffs first,
(28:37):
the Dolphins or the Seminoles.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
I'm going with the Seminoles, but damn they both think
right now, I have no hope not their team has
a hole. I think the Dolphins are gonna have a
rough season, but we're hoping for the best. You know,
if Steve Ross does a great job of owning the
team and he's put some money into the team, and
hopefully he can turn it around with the new management there.
But but I'm a seminole at Harden. I'm a believer
in Mike Norvell. I just I love football across the board.
But there's absolutely nothing like watching college football on a
(29:03):
Saturday morning. But it's better when the Sumins are winning.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
In my opinion, I think you and Clay just became
best friends. Daniel Perez, Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives, Hey, man,
come back because we want to talk to you about
more Florida business and also as the Cuba situation unfolds.
But thanks for being here.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Thank youre guys.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
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we finish off our number two of the Tuesday edition.
Grant in North Dakota. What you got, grant, Hey, Clay.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
These bombastic views and statements of just sending people in
the ships to get cheaper.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Stop.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It's getting to be disgusting. And another point I reference.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
That hold on, hold on bump disgusting. What is disgusting
about trying to get gas prices.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Down because it's not reality?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Clay?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Why is it? Why is it not reality? To say
the number one reason why ships are not going through
right now is fear From a business perspective, What is
the fear based on that the ships may be attacked
and that the business owner might lose their ship. Why
do people have insurance on the ships in the first place?
(31:58):
It is to ensure and provide security in the event
of disaster. So if you analyze them, if that is
clearly the issue, why the strait of hor moves the
ship owners are clustered right now at Dubai. If you're
trying to solve the problem, and the number one problem
is fear of loss, which is the reason why people
(32:20):
have insurance why is the government not stepping in and
providing security in the fear of loss? Not a potential
solution to the issue.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
The government in the United States government keeps subsidizing the
rest of the world. The American tax payer, that's who
it is, is subsidizing the entire world.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
And not pause for pause for a second. If insurance
is provided, theoretically the ships start to move again and
the price of oil and gas collapses. So the average
American consumer, if the insurance is put in place, would
actually benefit fit substantially by a decline in oil and
(33:03):
gas prices. This is a very logical idea. You might
not like it, you might think it's not going to work,
but the actual mechanics of a solution for a problem.
If you believe that one hundred dollars barrel of oil
and gas is a problem, how do we fix it?
This is a solution that could very well fix it.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
The big CEOs of this country have shipped out everything
overseas to make us rely on all these I mean,
look at pharmaceuticals fertilized.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
But hold on, Actually that doesn't apply for oil and
gas because thanks to policies like the ones that have
been put in place by President Trump. We actually are
energy and dependent, which means that we produce more oil
and gas right here in the good old USA than
ever in the history of the nation. And we are
(33:56):
currently pumping and producing more oil and gas right now
than ever in the history of the nation.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Right, Clay. But there's a disconnect here because you're always
referencing we're producing the most. Yet the consumer, the legal
American voting citizen, is paying the malls, and they're going
to be frustrated and come the midterms.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
So okay, So hold on, you're calling in. Hold on,
you've called in and you are complaining about oil and
gas prices. I'm trying to help get oil and gas
prices down. So what is your solution, Clay?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
You're you're you're willing to just shove people out and
kill them. I mean that seems bold.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
So what what Okay, you're upset about oil and gas prices.
What is your solution, Clay? We have to have.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
More domestic stuff produced here, manufacturing oil? Uh you know
you guys touch Okay the reference of.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
So you want okay, but hold on, We're at an
all time record high of oil and gas production, right,
So you want us to go to an even higher
level of oil and gas production. I don't disagree. I
think President Trump is trying to put in policies in
place to make that happen.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Look, North Dakota is what number one or two? And
no it's not number one.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Texas is.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
In oil production, yet we paid some of the highest
fuel prices in the country, yet we're pumping it out
of our backyard. That's the problem. It's the disconnect of
what Americans are paying. And you can tell them all that, hey,
stock market's up, the oil is all record production, but
they still are not earning. They're not feeling it because
of groceries and all this. It's all tied together.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It's hugely okay, But so oil and gas prices on
February twenty eighth, we're down substantially. Now they're up. I
guess I get that, all right? So what okay, So
you've called in and your what is what is your point?
I guess.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Clay it it's on this show. You're being a little
disconnected with just let's just send him in.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Let's get this up.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Let's ensure it. We're gonna go, We're gonna get cheaper
gas prices. It's a good cheerleading thing. And don't get
me wrong, like we all want that right, it's just
the captain of the ship is in charge of those
lives and if they say no, they're not going, Hey,
you want you think you're gonna train up a bunch
of cats to go get into a war zone, You're
not gonna That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Okay, thanks for the call. I'm not really sure producer Greg,
did he have a point. I'm not really sure what
is uh what his take was there. I don't think
he I don't think he's an SEC football fan. That's real,
that's the bottom line. I mean, I think he's like
a big like a Big ten fan or something, and
he's just poking you
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