August 7, 2024 • 36 mins
Vance slams Walz for stolen valor, Walz attacks Vance for going to Ivy League school. Kamala failed the bar exam the first time she took it. Squad member Cori Bush loses primary. Author and New York Post columnist Miranda Devine joins Clay and Buck to discuss the Democrats' bait-and-switch from Biden to Kamala, when Hunter will get his pardon and just who is running the country right now? C&B take calls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Rubbing back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. You just heard a
powerful call from a mom whose daughter served, called out
of the reserves, goes to Iraq for two years, comes
back a different person said she lost her daughter. I
(00:21):
think there's a lot of you out there that in
your families have had that experience. Jadie Vance signed up
to serve his country as a marine, served overseas, busted
his ass, did not leave his fellow soldiers behind. You
(00:46):
just heard Buck talk about what he was told as
a CIA agent when it came to are you or
are you not going to go to Iraq?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I am saying.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Officer, not agent. We always say officer. I'm sorry, I
have to officer CIA officer not agent. I can't speak
to this because I haven't served. So there are some
objects and some details like I can't tell you exactly
how I would think. Sean Parnell is going to come
and speak about this at the top of the next hour.
(01:18):
But Jade Vansbuck just now earlier this morning in Detroit
because they attacked him yesterday at their rally where they
introduced Walls, Kamala and Walls in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Awkward for Josh Shapiro.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
By the way I watched his speech, he really expected
that to be his coronation. Interestingly, all is not well
inside of the Pennsylvania Democrat Party because there is talk
that John Fetterman specifically said you can't pick Shapiro. And
did you see the footage of Fetterman refusing to stand
(01:55):
while Shapiro spoke while everybody else around him was standing
watching the speech.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Did you see that picture?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And there's a little bit of drama inside of the
Pennsylvania Democrat Party just based on that relationship. Fetterman and
Shapiro don't like each other, and I don't think this
is like kind of a petty school yard feud. They
seem to genuinely dislike each other. Evidently, they both served
on the board that considers whether or not you should
(02:24):
get paroles, and Fetterman and Shapiro feuded a lot on
that board and genuinely don't like each other. But they
attacked Jade Vance they continue to call him weird. That
is where the attack came from with Tim Walls, and
we just laid out a lot of reasons. I think
Tim Walls is actually weird. But I think many of
(02:46):
you out there probably feel that most politicians are weird.
It's kind of a weird way to make a living
compared to what most of us do for a living.
So I'm not sure of all the professions out there
that politicians yelling back and forth, you're weird, No, you're wed.
I think a lot of you find most politicians to
be weird. Buck I would say on the weirdness scale,
(03:06):
politicians rate highly.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Would you agree with that? Based in general? For sure?
But JD.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Vance specifically talked about Tim Walls declining refusing to go
to Iraq when his guard unit was called up.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And here's what JD.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Vance had to say about that issue this morning in Detroit, Michigan,
in his address to the surrounding community there.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Listen to this.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Well, I wonder, Tim Waltz, when were you ever in war?
What was this weapon that you carried into war? Given
that you abandoned your unit right before they went to
Iraq and he has not spent.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
A day in a combat zone.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
What bothers me about Tim Waltz is the stolen valor garbage.
Do not pretend to be something that you're not, and
if you want to criticize me for getting an Ivy
League education. I'm proud of the fact that my Mamma
supported me, that I was able to make something of myself.
I'd be ashamed if I him and I lied about
my military service like he did.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Okay, so Buck, we know that in the past this
has been a big issue. In the two thousand and
four campaign, Chris La Sevita, who is one of the
campaign advisors for Donald Trump, attacked John Kerrey's service in
Vietnam aggressively, and that was a big part of John
Kerrey's argument for why he should be the nominee was
(04:25):
his past military service in Vietnam. The Swift voting correct.
He swift voted the John Kerrey story. And you may
remember the details of that better than I do from
twenty years ago. But it seems to me that Walls,
while they're bragging about his military service, many people who
actually served and went into combat zones find his decision
(04:47):
to bail on his unit right when they were being
sent overseas as a sergeant, which again I think we'll
ask Parnell about this is more significant than it would
have been if he had been somewhere else in lit
did Jesse Kelly has been firing off. I've seen him
our buddy obviously marine talking about this in his experience.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
This could turn into a big story.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, Well, it's also made it's made an issue by
the fact that Walls is holding up his service as
a veteran correct as a reason why you should vote
for him. So essentially the value proposition that he offers
to the American people is I serve my country. I'm
(05:32):
a guy, and I was willing to make the you know,
to do the tough things when it counted. That's that's
kind of a general view of it, right, Yes, except
if you were somebody who really wanted to serve and
you got the opportunity to go with the unit that
you had been overseeing and training with for a long
(05:52):
time as a non commissioned officer, and then you know
it's time for unit to go and you say, I'm out. Really,
you know, I I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
On the CIA side, a lot of the people that
I got to spend time around on the military side,
and and some of whom were working very closely with
or working as part of the CIA, were guys who
were just true war fighters. And were on you know,
deployment number eight, and they just had seen everything and
done everything and uh, and I think a lot of
(06:21):
them were just incredibly humble about it.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
On that was just the expectation. They're very humble about
their service.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Walls is kind of like, well, I'm a I'm a badass,
I was a veteran, but when it came time to
go over there and look, I understand people can say
that some veterans get very uncomfortable with parsing what counts
as service. Right, And this is even tough for people
that are CIA, that are State Department, that are you know,
d I A, that are civilians.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It's like, well, you know, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
And as I said, there's there's did you did you
try to work for the benefit of your country.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
That's a form of service.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
So Walls did a lot of paperwork and push you know,
some push ups and drilling. Uh, and went to some
bases where you know, he was never in any any risk.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Right, there's going to a war zone.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I know people can say, well, if you didn't see combat,
I know people who got blown up by mortars walking
to the bathroom on these bases in a rock like
that would happen. So it's not, oh, you weren't a
door kicker, you're not a seal, you're not delta, or
you're not an army ranger or you know whatever, you're
not a marine. You know, so you didn't serve. That's
not true. You know, it's part of their it's one team,
(07:27):
one fight there. And again I'm speaking through the prism
and we'll talk to Sean here a minute of somebody
who talked to a lot of veterans in the war
zones about this.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
But this was the attitude that I that I would
I would.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Hear from them, which is if you're willing to show
up and help, you know, logistics matter, like thank you
for making sure the ammunition and the food is getting
to the soldiers on the front lines. If you're at
one of the big bases, Like so you're playing a role.
You're playing a part. And then there's combat. Combat is
people trying to kill you. You're trying to kill them,
all right, like they did. But like those are the
tiers walls?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Did they did?
Speaker 6 (07:57):
You know?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It was tier one?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
It was you know, he he He was helpful to
the machinery of the military for a period of time,
but the fact that.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It's not that he didn't serve and he just missed it.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Like I know people that you know, they That's what
I was going to point out, Like you don't control
when you might get shipped out exactly could have finished
his entire tenure, and that just never happened for him, right,
But then push came to show that he actually was
potentially going to face real danger. He decided that he
wasn't willing to go and then you brag about your service.
(08:29):
But that is out there that seems significant to me.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And also there's something else that really really has been
bothering me. And I guess it's because, I mean, I
have a dad who came from a very humble background
and had to just totally bootstrap it and you know,
no affirmative action for him. Nobody, uh you know, had
to get was on scholarship in high school, was on scholarship,
(08:52):
you know, Clay, I know you got a scholarship in college.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
My dad, I got a scholarship to high school. That's
whole other thing.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
He was on a full scholarship in high school, got
a scholarship to go college, had to you know, was
waiting tables on his fellow students to try to make
money and all this sort of stuff. And I feel
like we used to really respect that in this country,
and now we don't respect it. If it's a white guy,
that's what's really happened. If you're a white guy who
works his way up and gets to an Ivy League school,
(09:19):
somehow you're like part of the elites and you're part
of the problem. Well, hold on a second, why is
this not the great American story? By the way, I
believe that it's a great story, you know, for anybody
who earns it and works hard and goes to an
elite institution. Now, I do have problems with people who
are legacies, people who wouldn't have gotten in if they
didn't have a certain skin color.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
I do think that's wrong, or if that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Weren't super rich, that's the reason you got in legacy
admissions or affirmative action.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I think they're But what you're hitting is advance.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yes, the meritocracy should be embraced across all of America.
That is, if you lift yourself up from a stature
with which you did not begin. It used to be
something that we all as Americans would embrace the idea
that you would attack jd Vance who went to Ohio
(10:12):
State on the GI Bill, who grew up in levels
of poverty frankly that most Americans do not, and that
he was able to elevate himself and go to Yell
Law School is to me a tremendous accomplishment of his And.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
By the way, I would say the same thing.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Rond de Santis went to I believe Harvard Law School, right, yes,
very middle class beginnings in Florida. I went to Vanderbilt
Law School. Nobody in my grandfather had an eighth grade education,
Like I feel incredibly fortunate that I was able to
do that.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
That should but we want everybody.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Right, if you're listening to us right now, and you
have kids, and you worked in a factory as my
family did, and your kid or your grandkid gets an
opportunity to achieve something that you didn't have the opportunity for,
that is the foundation of the American dream. All want
our kids to be better off than we were.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I think that you know the difference between the the
in the in rough outline between Walls's story and jd
Vance's story is Jade Vance is more academically gifted and
was able to go to more elite institutions as a
result of his hard work. But that's it. I mean,
there's no he didn't have some advantage. In fact, he
probably had a more disadvantaged upbringing. But I think it's
(11:23):
a bigger thing, a broader thing, and we really have
to put an end to this of Oh, if you're
some poor white kid from anywhere in the country, but
you know, particularly like a rough belt state, you know, Kentucky, Tennessee,
anywhere in Appalachia, a rough part of Ohio, or a
poor town in Michigan or Wisconsin, whatever, if you're from
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any of these places, you're a white kid, and you
just bust your ass and you do you know, you
do well. You know you do it the way you
want to do it. You do well whatever that means.
Maybe it means, you know, you start your own contracting
business and you know you have a happy one. Maybe
it means you go to a Yeale law school. That's
that's not impressive. Yeah, is a slap in the face
that that somehow isn't something to be celebrated. Is you
(12:07):
know why because of all of your white privilege. I
guarantee you if you looked at a lot of the
white guys who grew up around JD. Vance in similar circumstances,
none of them went to law school. They certainly aren't
vice you know, vice presidential contender right now?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Do you know what I mean? You had to know
a lot of.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Those A lot of those kids are dead because I
mean sadly because of the amount of drugs and an
alcohol that have have filed into that area. Look, the
Republicans have to always be the party of meritocracy. And
if you are the best at what you do, you
(12:41):
should be able to make as much money as possible.
You should be able to found a business.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
You should. I just the idea that you would attack JV.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Vance because you don't think he's accomplished enough is just
bonker Land crazy to me. He's forty and uh and
he's got three kids, seems to have a good marriage,
graduated from an elite law school, has had success in business,
and now is potentially going to be the next vice
president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
If he's not a success, who is?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Wrote probably the best selling American men Ore of It
not even mentioned a matter so far.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
They made a movie about his life. I mean, if
that's not the meritocracy in the American dream, what.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Is a guy who wrote writes an autobiography called Hillbilly Elegy,
which is a runaway best seller because of its authenticity,
is being attacked by Democrats for being a fancy elite?
Now you know, was Abraham Lincoln a fancy elite? I
mean I'm not saying JD. Vance's Abraham Lincoln, but you
know he became president. Brilliant guy, very humble beginnings, you know, Like, do.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
You see what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
That used to be the American dream was Andrew Jackson,
Like you could rise from nothing to become the president. Look,
I mean that's the story of Barack Obama, that's a
story of Bill Clinton.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Democrats used to embrace it.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
And I'll say this, if Kamala Harris was impressive given
her demographic profile academically or intellectually, she would have gone
to better.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Schools full stop.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, this is the truth. It's the truth.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I mean people can think it, Oh, how dare you?
Where'd you go to law school? She's a black female.
If you look at the actual data on what it
would take for her to get into a law school,
versus Jade Vans. By the way, this is now public record.
This is the Supreme Court. They have weighed in on this.
There's no more like, oh, we're not allowed to talk
about that. These are facts. She's not impressive.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
She failed the bar.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Impressive about her.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
She failed the bar exam. She for the first time.
She took it. Buck.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Everybody I know in my law school class past the
bar exam the first time they took it. If you
fail the bar exam the first time you take it,
that every boy you're in America will say that raises
the eyebrows because you bust your ass as hard as
you possibly can to go to law school, and if
you fail it, it says something about you. I'm sorry
it does.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
She failed.
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Speaker 3 (16:39):
We got Sean Parnell joining momentarily to talk about how
he feels as a combat veteran about the Walls decision
not even to deploy with his units after years and
years and years in the military. We'll get into that.
But also, Clay, we didn't I feel like we miss
something here. There's great news. Great news.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Corey Bush, Yeah, lost her primary.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Lost her primary.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Honestly, one of the what I guess the easy way say,
is just one of the worst overall members of the
United States Congress lost her Democrat primary and went crazy
about how it was APA's fault and all this other stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
We'll play some audio of that later in the show
for you. But this now means Jamal Bowman and Corey
Bush have both lost their primaries, two card carrying members
of the squad, and that is a positive result of
the primary season so far. Remember it's Democrat voters replacing them.
They live in very Democrat districts, so this is Democrats saying,
(17:43):
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off for it. So that is a positive result that
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Speaker 1 (18:56):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. The woman
who should have many different Politzers. Maybe they should just
rename it after her for everything she wrote about Hunter, Biden,
the laptop and more. Miranda Devine, New York Post joins us. Now, Miranda,
things have changed on the show since you last came on.
Buck Is convinced there's no way, Doc, thank you for
(19:17):
coming on. Buck Is convinced there's no way Trump can
possibly lose. I am terrified that Kamala might win. Where
do you put yourself on this equation right now as
we sit right at three months away from election day.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
Look, I'm with you. I don't think there's any guarantee
that Trump's going to win, even though you would think
with these two very radical left and very unimpressive and
quite frightening candidates for the Democrats, he should win in
a canter. But yes, you know it's going to come
(19:52):
down again to those battleground states that are controlled by Democrats,
and we know that they are in plaque opposed to
having election security.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
Election.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
You know, any voter ID why is that, Why are
they registering illegal aliens? There's all sorts of dirty tricks.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Branda.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
It's it seems like there's been a move from jd
Vance to finally respond and turn the tables a bit
on all the critics that he has, including and I
know you've noted this publicly, the way that he's pointing
out Kamala Harris. On the one hand, jady Vance is
being attacked by the media from every which direction, including
(20:35):
I don't want to repeat it, but everyone knows what
I'm talking about. This absolutely, there's just a fabrication, a
lie that even Tim Waltz made reference to last night
that it's like it's like a mean joke that somebody
put on the Internet that they now try to slander
jd Vance with it. It's bizarre, but they're they're desperate. Meanwhile,
jd is pointing out to Kamala Harris isn't even really
(20:58):
running a campaign. She's just been paid and they're just
telling you vote for Kamala. The rest of the media
is carrying all the water, doing all the work.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Yes, and look today, as jd Vance keeps on pointing out,
it will be the eighteenth day since Kamila Harris was
installed in place of Joe Biden, and she has not
given a single press conference or kind of unscripted remarks
outside the teleprompter, apart from that ridiculous word salad that
(21:27):
she gave on the tarmac the other day when the
hostages came home. No wonder they don't let her out
from behind a teleprompter. And you know, her poll numbers,
her popularity has gone up. She's now beating Trump for
doing absolutely nothing but just a very clever kind of
TikTok online campaign to make her look cool and you know,
(21:50):
joyful and vigorous. And they're so relieved, the Democrats that
they haven't got a walking cadaver in an office that
I guess that they are full of the irrational exuberance
which I assume will pease her out after their convention.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Miranda, here's my concern.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I thought, when Joe Biden got elected in twenty and
they basically buried him in the basement, that they would
have to acknowledge that COVID wasn't that COVID was the
reason they could do that. But there doesn't seem to
be any mechanism that is going to require Kamala to
ever come off the teleprompter at all, maybe one debate,
(22:32):
which my concern is both sides will raise their gloves
after the debate like a boxing match and go back
to their corners and say that they won. I think
it's gonna be hard for Trump to knock Kamala out
like he knocked Biden out, because she's not a corpse
basically right, So what mechanism is there to require And
we know it's a compliant press, but Lester Holt, for
(22:55):
God's sakes, devoured Kamala to such an extent that she
didn't do a sit down in her for another year.
I just think Democrats are going to say, hey, we're
too busy, we're campaigning, she's reading off the teleprompter. I'm
not sure they're ever going to require her to do anything. Meanwhile,
Trump is out there doing every media outlet under the sun,
pro and con and yet every time he says something
(23:18):
that's a little bit outside the color lines, they grab
him and try to drag him around. And there's no
same standard being applied to Kamala at all. This seems
like the new rig job that's in effect. This is
what I see, am I missing it or do you
see it too?
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Yeah, look, I see it that way too. I you know,
when the Democrats control all the kind of narrative forming
institutions in the country, and that's you know, the media
they're almost fully in control of, including social media apart
from the one bright spot of x thanks to wing
(23:52):
on Musku. They're trying to destroy and you know, Hollywood academia.
And there's a documentary I was just about that Kevin
Morris Hunter Biden's Sugar Brothers created that's coming out just
before the election at the Toronto Film Festival, which is
eulogizing Adam Kinsinger as the valiant, noble last Republican. So
(24:15):
that's the kind of sort of narrative machine that the
Republicans and Trump are up against.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
Now.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
The thing that's good about Trump is that he's such
a showman that he does manage to sort of get
around that mismaking machine because he is his own myth
and people are fascinated by him, and you know, he's
doing some unorthodox things going on big sort of use
live streams and getting a lot of cute offs for that.
(24:46):
And I think that as the sort of dinosaur media
lose their power and influence because they've been so dishonest
that they're sort of attacks on Trump and their eulogized
of Kamala Harris, I think does have a limit.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Speaking of Miranda Devine of The New York Post and
also the author of the excellent Laptop from Hell. So
now that we know Miranda switching a little bit of
gears here. Now that we know that Joe Biden is
not going to be the guy, very very sad for
those of us who thought he'd make it all the
way through. When do you think the pardon that he
(25:23):
said would never happen for Hunter happens. Do you have
a take on when Joe's I would not pardon my son,
I'm actually going to pardon my son.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
I think it will be at the very last minute,
so that they can just ring every last drop of
freebes and trips on Air Force one and holidays in
Camp David, et cetera out of the presidency. And remember
Hunter has next month, he's quite important. It'll be long
(25:55):
tax trial in California, and that was the trial that
was going to be a big problem for Joe Biden
because it brings in all the Barisma money.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
Ukraine China, et cetera.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
And so I think the Democrats dodged a bullet in
that case, and perhaps that's tacked it into their thinking
because Hunter is in no mood to take a plea,
and it looks like the prosecutors are quite keen to
bring in pharough violations, so that would be very interesting.
And I think they'll just wait and see if he
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gets a conviction and then pardon him at the end
of it. But you know he's going to get a pardon.
He was so sanguine about the guilty verdict from the
jury in Delaware over his gun felony that well, everyone
around him was very upset. He was just very calm,
cool and collected about it because he knows that there
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are no consequences for him, like there never have been.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Miranda, you met and we went to Biden. I love
that you will share the president's schedule on a regular
I think you just shared that he's taking another four week,
four day weekend headed back to the beach house.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
What is actually going on here?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Because we may have an attack coming at any moment
from Hesbola and from Iran. That's why I'm not in
Israel right now because they canceled our flights. Seems like
kind of an important time for the president to be
near the situation room. I know they had him briefing
in the situation room recently, but is this sort of
a quiet quitting element of Biden where it's like he's
(27:33):
just pouting over being left behind and he's not doing anything.
I mean, I haven't even barely seen him. It's like
we don't have a president right now.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
It really is a joke. Day afterday the White House
puts out his schedule and it's like the other day,
the one thing on his schedule was that he gets
the daily brief. Yeah, normally that goes to a president
in the morning, so he knows what's going on to
the day. He was getting it at two fifteen pm,
So I mean, is he getting out of bed at
(28:03):
noon that he's doing nothing? And KJP was buttonholed about
that yesterday and her briefing, and she said, oh, no,
you know you're seeing the president. No, we're not, we're
not seeing the president. He's not anywhere. He's, as you say,
quiet quitting. And then going on these four day holidays
(28:23):
on the weekend and he's on holidays the whole time.
I mean, maybe he is pouting. Maybe he's been instructed
by the Democrats to just keep a low profile so
he doesn't get in the way of Kamela's wonderful debut
on the on the international stage. But uh, it's you know,
he should he should not be being paid, He should
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quit entirely. If he's not capable of running for office,
then he's got to step down because this is very
dangerous and the American people deserve to know who is
making these mammoth decisions. Who decided to send a destroyer
over to Israel? What is going on?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Those are very valid questions. What is going on? Who's
in charge? We don't have any idea, Miranda Divine. I'm
glad that you guys are continuing to fight the good
battles at the New York Post. Encourage everybody to follow
you on Twitter slash x and make sure that they're
reading your columns as we do regularly on this program. Miranda,
we appreciate the time.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Thanks so much.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
You know we've got Sean Parnell, combat veteran New York
Times bestselling author and host of Battleground live on the
Clay and Buck podcast network, which we hope you all
subscribe to and listen to Sean's show. He'll be joining
us to talk about a few things. One is the
Walls not going with his unit to Iraq when it
was time to go. And then two, I want to
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ask him he's a Pennsylvania and born and raised in
the Pittsburgh area and has run for office there and
knows the Pennsylvania GOP situation. Well, I want to ask him,
how are we looking in that state? So, especially since
it's not going to be Shapiro as we know, what
does it look like in Pennsylvania. I think it's a
very important conversation. So we're going to get into that.
(32:49):
We've got Steve in Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
What's going on Steve.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Clayan Buck.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
I would just like to say what a privilege it
is to be on your show.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
I was able to talk and the rush before he
pass on.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Oh no, he had an awesome opening sentenced Buck. Oh
wait is he still there? Do we still have him?
Speaker 8 (33:13):
Hello?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah, we're here.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Hello.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
So anyway, I'd just like to say I agree with
you guys a million percent on the left's take on
white privilege and older, older men's white privilege. That I'm
a fire chief that is going to be retiring in
five months. I spent thirty years in the fire Service,
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was out of the house at eighteen years old, working
two or three jobs, going to school at night to
get my certifications, and kind of the same road that JD.
Vance took to get to where he's at, except I
didn't serve the military. And if the left wants to
consider that white privilege for all the things I went
through to become successful and still work three jobs now,
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we'll be working jobs even after I retire from the
player service. That if the left think that that is privilege,
I would trade positions with anybody on the left any
time to get to where I am right now in life.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Thank you for the call. I do think, Buck, if
you were born and raised in the eighties, nineties, and
two thousands, I think the idea of white privilege is
a joke.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
To We actually were held to way higher.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Standards as white men than anyone else in the whole
country when it came to test, when it came to
qualification for anything.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Again, if you.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Are seventy or eighty, I think you probably did get
the benefit of being white. If you are in your twenties, thirties,
forties or younger, that doesn't exist anymore. No, I mean
it really you actually had reverse privilege correct or rather discrimination,
which is what the real word is when it came
to college and getting jobs and getting promoted and what
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really else is there when you're talking about a system
and privileged than those things.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Those are pretty big things, pretty big things.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I think we should be in favor of the meritocracy
period for white, Black, Asian and Hispanic people, everybody held
to the same standard. What a crazy concept. Terrence in
Santa Rosa Beach, Florida. By the way, Santa Rosa Beach
beautiful place. Terrence, What do you think you want to
weigh in on Tim Walls deciding not to go to
Iraq with his team.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
Yes, I want to talk about command position and what
it means. I was a squadron commander of an F
sixteen international Guard squadron. And when you accept that position,
you know what it means. It means you go period dot.
No excuses. Waltz was in the Minnesota National Guard for
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over twenty years. Who knows what command is. He accepted
the command position as a command master sergeant. He should
have gone, period dot. His excuse was whether he was
running for Congress. Well, his wife could have ran this campaign.
How about Nikki Haley's husband. He was deployed her entire campaign.
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I only saw like one or two pictures of that guy.
So he has no excuses. It's stolen valor and he
didn't He should have gone. Those guys depended on him.
Now there the line guy, you know, private second class finished,
the first class finished his six year commitment, says, hey,
I'm not going that's a whole different story. But somebody
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who's in for twenty years, he knows what it is.
The woman who was crying earlier about her daughter, she
got stop loocked. That's what it's called. It's called being
stop blocked. He should have been stop locked. I don't
know how he got out of that. You don't get
out of stop lock.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Thank you for the call. Finishing the break buck by
the way, JD. Vance Kamala Harris, same tarmac. In the airport,
Vance went to
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Her, Kleay Travis, and Buck Sexton on the front line
of the Truth
Rubbing back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. You just heard a
powerful call from a mom whose daughter served, called out
of the reserves, goes to Iraq for two years, comes
back a different person said she lost her daughter. I
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think there's a lot of you out there that in
your families have had that experience. Jadie Vance signed up
to serve his country as a marine, served overseas, busted
his ass, did not leave his fellow soldiers behind. You
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just heard Buck talk about what he was told as
a CIA agent when it came to are you or
are you not going to go to Iraq?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I am saying.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Officer, not agent. We always say officer. I'm sorry, I
have to officer CIA officer not agent. I can't speak
to this because I haven't served. So there are some
objects and some details like I can't tell you exactly
how I would think. Sean Parnell is going to come
and speak about this at the top of the next hour.
(01:18):
But Jade Vansbuck just now earlier this morning in Detroit
because they attacked him yesterday at their rally where they
introduced Walls, Kamala and Walls in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Awkward for Josh Shapiro.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
By the way I watched his speech, he really expected
that to be his coronation. Interestingly, all is not well
inside of the Pennsylvania Democrat Party because there is talk
that John Fetterman specifically said you can't pick Shapiro. And
did you see the footage of Fetterman refusing to stand
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while Shapiro spoke while everybody else around him was standing
watching the speech.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Did you see that picture?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And there's a little bit of drama inside of the
Pennsylvania Democrat Party just based on that relationship. Fetterman and
Shapiro don't like each other, and I don't think this
is like kind of a petty school yard feud. They
seem to genuinely dislike each other. Evidently, they both served
on the board that considers whether or not you should
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get paroles, and Fetterman and Shapiro feuded a lot on
that board and genuinely don't like each other. But they
attacked Jade Vance they continue to call him weird. That
is where the attack came from with Tim Walls, and
we just laid out a lot of reasons. I think
Tim Walls is actually weird. But I think many of
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you out there probably feel that most politicians are weird.
It's kind of a weird way to make a living
compared to what most of us do for a living.
So I'm not sure of all the professions out there
that politicians yelling back and forth, you're weird, No, you're wed.
I think a lot of you find most politicians to
be weird. Buck I would say on the weirdness scale,
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politicians rate highly.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Would you agree with that? Based in general? For sure?
But JD.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Vance specifically talked about Tim Walls declining refusing to go
to Iraq when his guard unit was called up.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And here's what JD.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Vance had to say about that issue this morning in Detroit, Michigan,
in his address to the surrounding community there.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Listen to this.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Well, I wonder, Tim Waltz, when were you ever in war?
What was this weapon that you carried into war? Given
that you abandoned your unit right before they went to
Iraq and he has not spent.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
A day in a combat zone.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
What bothers me about Tim Waltz is the stolen valor garbage.
Do not pretend to be something that you're not, and
if you want to criticize me for getting an Ivy
League education. I'm proud of the fact that my Mamma
supported me, that I was able to make something of myself.
I'd be ashamed if I him and I lied about
my military service like he did.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Okay, so Buck, we know that in the past this
has been a big issue. In the two thousand and
four campaign, Chris La Sevita, who is one of the
campaign advisors for Donald Trump, attacked John Kerrey's service in
Vietnam aggressively, and that was a big part of John
Kerrey's argument for why he should be the nominee was
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his past military service in Vietnam. The Swift voting correct.
He swift voted the John Kerrey story. And you may
remember the details of that better than I do from
twenty years ago. But it seems to me that Walls,
while they're bragging about his military service, many people who
actually served and went into combat zones find his decision
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to bail on his unit right when they were being
sent overseas as a sergeant, which again I think we'll
ask Parnell about this is more significant than it would
have been if he had been somewhere else in lit
did Jesse Kelly has been firing off. I've seen him
our buddy obviously marine talking about this in his experience.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
This could turn into a big story.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, Well, it's also made it's made an issue by
the fact that Walls is holding up his service as
a veteran correct as a reason why you should vote
for him. So essentially the value proposition that he offers
to the American people is I serve my country. I'm
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a guy, and I was willing to make the you know,
to do the tough things when it counted. That's that's
kind of a general view of it, right, Yes, except
if you were somebody who really wanted to serve and
you got the opportunity to go with the unit that
you had been overseeing and training with for a long
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time as a non commissioned officer, and then you know
it's time for unit to go and you say, I'm out. Really,
you know, I I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
On the CIA side, a lot of the people that
I got to spend time around on the military side,
and and some of whom were working very closely with
or working as part of the CIA, were guys who
were just true war fighters. And were on you know,
deployment number eight, and they just had seen everything and
done everything and uh, and I think a lot of
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them were just incredibly humble about it.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
On that was just the expectation. They're very humble about
their service.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Walls is kind of like, well, I'm a I'm a badass,
I was a veteran, but when it came time to
go over there and look, I understand people can say
that some veterans get very uncomfortable with parsing what counts
as service. Right, And this is even tough for people
that are CIA, that are State Department, that are you know,
d I A, that are civilians.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It's like, well, you know, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
And as I said, there's there's did you did you
try to work for the benefit of your country.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
That's a form of service.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
So Walls did a lot of paperwork and push you know,
some push ups and drilling. Uh, and went to some
bases where you know, he was never in any any risk.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Right, there's going to a war zone.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I know people can say, well, if you didn't see combat,
I know people who got blown up by mortars walking
to the bathroom on these bases in a rock like
that would happen. So it's not, oh, you weren't a
door kicker, you're not a seal, you're not delta, or
you're not an army ranger or you know whatever, you're
not a marine. You know, so you didn't serve. That's
not true. You know, it's part of their it's one team,
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one fight there. And again I'm speaking through the prism
and we'll talk to Sean here a minute of somebody
who talked to a lot of veterans in the war
zones about this.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
But this was the attitude that I that I would
I would.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Hear from them, which is if you're willing to show
up and help, you know, logistics matter, like thank you
for making sure the ammunition and the food is getting
to the soldiers on the front lines. If you're at
one of the big bases, Like so you're playing a role.
You're playing a part. And then there's combat. Combat is
people trying to kill you. You're trying to kill them,
all right, like they did. But like those are the
tiers walls?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Did they did?
Speaker 6 (07:57):
You know?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It was tier one?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
It was you know, he he He was helpful to
the machinery of the military for a period of time,
but the fact that.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It's not that he didn't serve and he just missed it.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Like I know people that you know, they That's what
I was going to point out, Like you don't control
when you might get shipped out exactly could have finished
his entire tenure, and that just never happened for him, right,
But then push came to show that he actually was
potentially going to face real danger. He decided that he
wasn't willing to go and then you brag about your service.
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But that is out there that seems significant to me.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And also there's something else that really really has been
bothering me. And I guess it's because, I mean, I
have a dad who came from a very humble background
and had to just totally bootstrap it and you know,
no affirmative action for him. Nobody, uh you know, had
to get was on scholarship in high school, was on scholarship,
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you know, Clay, I know you got a scholarship in college.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
My dad, I got a scholarship to high school. That's
whole other thing.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
He was on a full scholarship in high school, got
a scholarship to go college, had to you know, was
waiting tables on his fellow students to try to make
money and all this sort of stuff. And I feel
like we used to really respect that in this country,
and now we don't respect it. If it's a white guy,
that's what's really happened. If you're a white guy who
works his way up and gets to an Ivy League school,
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somehow you're like part of the elites and you're part
of the problem. Well, hold on a second, why is
this not the great American story? By the way, I
believe that it's a great story, you know, for anybody
who earns it and works hard and goes to an
elite institution. Now, I do have problems with people who
are legacies, people who wouldn't have gotten in if they
didn't have a certain skin color.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
I do think that's wrong, or if that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Weren't super rich, that's the reason you got in legacy
admissions or affirmative action.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I think they're But what you're hitting is advance.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yes, the meritocracy should be embraced across all of America.
That is, if you lift yourself up from a stature
with which you did not begin. It used to be
something that we all as Americans would embrace the idea
that you would attack jd Vance who went to Ohio
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State on the GI Bill, who grew up in levels
of poverty frankly that most Americans do not, and that
he was able to elevate himself and go to Yell
Law School is to me a tremendous accomplishment of his And.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
By the way, I would say the same thing.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Rond de Santis went to I believe Harvard Law School, right, yes,
very middle class beginnings in Florida. I went to Vanderbilt
Law School. Nobody in my grandfather had an eighth grade education,
Like I feel incredibly fortunate that I was able to
do that.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
That should but we want everybody.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Right, if you're listening to us right now, and you
have kids, and you worked in a factory as my
family did, and your kid or your grandkid gets an
opportunity to achieve something that you didn't have the opportunity for,
that is the foundation of the American dream. All want
our kids to be better off than we were.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I think that you know the difference between the the
in the in rough outline between Walls's story and jd
Vance's story is Jade Vance is more academically gifted and
was able to go to more elite institutions as a
result of his hard work. But that's it. I mean,
there's no he didn't have some advantage. In fact, he
probably had a more disadvantaged upbringing. But I think it's
(11:23):
a bigger thing, a broader thing, and we really have
to put an end to this of Oh, if you're
some poor white kid from anywhere in the country, but
you know, particularly like a rough belt state, you know, Kentucky, Tennessee,
anywhere in Appalachia, a rough part of Ohio, or a
poor town in Michigan or Wisconsin, whatever, if you're from
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any of these places, you're a white kid, and you
just bust your ass and you do you know, you
do well. You know you do it the way you
want to do it. You do well whatever that means.
Maybe it means, you know, you start your own contracting
business and you know you have a happy one. Maybe
it means you go to a Yeale law school. That's
that's not impressive. Yeah, is a slap in the face
that that somehow isn't something to be celebrated. Is you
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know why because of all of your white privilege. I
guarantee you if you looked at a lot of the
white guys who grew up around JD. Vance in similar circumstances,
none of them went to law school. They certainly aren't
vice you know, vice presidential contender right now?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Do you know what I mean? You had to know
a lot of.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Those A lot of those kids are dead because I
mean sadly because of the amount of drugs and an
alcohol that have have filed into that area. Look, the
Republicans have to always be the party of meritocracy. And
if you are the best at what you do, you
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should be able to make as much money as possible.
You should be able to found a business.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
You should. I just the idea that you would attack JV.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Vance because you don't think he's accomplished enough is just
bonker Land crazy to me. He's forty and uh and
he's got three kids, seems to have a good marriage,
graduated from an elite law school, has had success in business,
and now is potentially going to be the next vice
president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
If he's not a success, who is?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Wrote probably the best selling American men Ore of It
not even mentioned a matter so far.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
They made a movie about his life. I mean, if
that's not the meritocracy in the American dream, what.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Is a guy who wrote writes an autobiography called Hillbilly Elegy,
which is a runaway best seller because of its authenticity,
is being attacked by Democrats for being a fancy elite?
Now you know, was Abraham Lincoln a fancy elite? I
mean I'm not saying JD. Vance's Abraham Lincoln, but you
know he became president. Brilliant guy, very humble beginnings, you know, Like, do.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
You see what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
That used to be the American dream was Andrew Jackson,
Like you could rise from nothing to become the president. Look,
I mean that's the story of Barack Obama, that's a
story of Bill Clinton.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Democrats used to embrace it.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
And I'll say this, if Kamala Harris was impressive given
her demographic profile academically or intellectually, she would have gone
to better.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Schools full stop.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, this is the truth. It's the truth.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I mean people can think it, Oh, how dare you?
Where'd you go to law school? She's a black female.
If you look at the actual data on what it
would take for her to get into a law school,
versus Jade Vans. By the way, this is now public record.
This is the Supreme Court. They have weighed in on this.
There's no more like, oh, we're not allowed to talk
about that. These are facts. She's not impressive.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
She failed the bar.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Impressive about her.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
She failed the bar exam. She for the first time.
She took it. Buck.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Everybody I know in my law school class past the
bar exam the first time they took it. If you
fail the bar exam the first time you take it,
that every boy you're in America will say that raises
the eyebrows because you bust your ass as hard as
you possibly can to go to law school, and if
you fail it, it says something about you. I'm sorry
it does.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
She failed.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
When someone says bring your a game, they mean bring
everything you got in the way of vitality, vigor, strength
to drive Chalk's mail. Vitality stack is what they are
talking about. You know, can you imagine having twenty percent
more energy? If you're a guy listening to me right now,
do you know that if you don't feel like you
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We got Sean Parnell joining momentarily to talk about how
he feels as a combat veteran about the Walls decision
not even to deploy with his units after years and
years and years in the military. We'll get into that.
But also, Clay, we didn't I feel like we miss
something here. There's great news. Great news.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Corey Bush, Yeah, lost her primary.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Lost her primary.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Honestly, one of the what I guess the easy way say,
is just one of the worst overall members of the
United States Congress lost her Democrat primary and went crazy
about how it was APA's fault and all this other stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
We'll play some audio of that later in the show
for you. But this now means Jamal Bowman and Corey
Bush have both lost their primaries, two card carrying members
of the squad, and that is a positive result of
the primary season so far. Remember it's Democrat voters replacing them.
They live in very Democrat districts, so this is Democrats saying,
(17:43):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. The woman
who should have many different Politzers. Maybe they should just
rename it after her for everything she wrote about Hunter, Biden,
the laptop and more. Miranda Devine, New York Post joins us. Now, Miranda,
things have changed on the show since you last came on.
Buck Is convinced there's no way, Doc, thank you for
(19:17):
coming on. Buck Is convinced there's no way Trump can
possibly lose. I am terrified that Kamala might win. Where
do you put yourself on this equation right now as
we sit right at three months away from election day.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
Look, I'm with you. I don't think there's any guarantee
that Trump's going to win, even though you would think
with these two very radical left and very unimpressive and
quite frightening candidates for the Democrats, he should win in
a canter. But yes, you know it's going to come
(19:52):
down again to those battleground states that are controlled by Democrats,
and we know that they are in plaque opposed to
having election security.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
Election.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
You know, any voter ID why is that, Why are
they registering illegal aliens? There's all sorts of dirty tricks.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Branda.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
It's it seems like there's been a move from jd
Vance to finally respond and turn the tables a bit
on all the critics that he has, including and I
know you've noted this publicly, the way that he's pointing
out Kamala Harris. On the one hand, jady Vance is
being attacked by the media from every which direction, including
(20:35):
I don't want to repeat it, but everyone knows what
I'm talking about. This absolutely, there's just a fabrication, a
lie that even Tim Waltz made reference to last night
that it's like it's like a mean joke that somebody
put on the Internet that they now try to slander
jd Vance with it. It's bizarre, but they're they're desperate. Meanwhile,
jd is pointing out to Kamala Harris isn't even really
(20:58):
running a campaign. She's just been paid and they're just
telling you vote for Kamala. The rest of the media
is carrying all the water, doing all the work.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Yes, and look today, as jd Vance keeps on pointing out,
it will be the eighteenth day since Kamila Harris was
installed in place of Joe Biden, and she has not
given a single press conference or kind of unscripted remarks
outside the teleprompter, apart from that ridiculous word salad that
(21:27):
she gave on the tarmac the other day when the
hostages came home. No wonder they don't let her out
from behind a teleprompter. And you know, her poll numbers,
her popularity has gone up. She's now beating Trump for
doing absolutely nothing but just a very clever kind of
TikTok online campaign to make her look cool and you know,
(21:50):
joyful and vigorous. And they're so relieved, the Democrats that
they haven't got a walking cadaver in an office that
I guess that they are full of the irrational exuberance
which I assume will pease her out after their convention.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Miranda, here's my concern.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I thought, when Joe Biden got elected in twenty and
they basically buried him in the basement, that they would
have to acknowledge that COVID wasn't that COVID was the
reason they could do that. But there doesn't seem to
be any mechanism that is going to require Kamala to
ever come off the teleprompter at all, maybe one debate,
(22:32):
which my concern is both sides will raise their gloves
after the debate like a boxing match and go back
to their corners and say that they won. I think
it's gonna be hard for Trump to knock Kamala out
like he knocked Biden out, because she's not a corpse
basically right, So what mechanism is there to require And
we know it's a compliant press, but Lester Holt, for
(22:55):
God's sakes, devoured Kamala to such an extent that she
didn't do a sit down in her for another year.
I just think Democrats are going to say, hey, we're
too busy, we're campaigning, she's reading off the teleprompter. I'm
not sure they're ever going to require her to do anything. Meanwhile,
Trump is out there doing every media outlet under the sun,
pro and con and yet every time he says something
(23:18):
that's a little bit outside the color lines, they grab
him and try to drag him around. And there's no
same standard being applied to Kamala at all. This seems
like the new rig job that's in effect. This is
what I see, am I missing it or do you
see it too?
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Yeah, look, I see it that way too. I you know,
when the Democrats control all the kind of narrative forming
institutions in the country, and that's you know, the media
they're almost fully in control of, including social media apart
from the one bright spot of x thanks to wing
(23:52):
on Musku. They're trying to destroy and you know, Hollywood academia.
And there's a documentary I was just about that Kevin
Morris Hunter Biden's Sugar Brothers created that's coming out just
before the election at the Toronto Film Festival, which is
eulogizing Adam Kinsinger as the valiant, noble last Republican. So
(24:15):
that's the kind of sort of narrative machine that the
Republicans and Trump are up against.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
Now.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
The thing that's good about Trump is that he's such
a showman that he does manage to sort of get
around that mismaking machine because he is his own myth
and people are fascinated by him, and you know, he's
doing some unorthodox things going on big sort of use
live streams and getting a lot of cute offs for that.
(24:46):
And I think that as the sort of dinosaur media
lose their power and influence because they've been so dishonest
that they're sort of attacks on Trump and their eulogized
of Kamala Harris, I think does have a limit.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Speaking of Miranda Devine of The New York Post and
also the author of the excellent Laptop from Hell. So
now that we know Miranda switching a little bit of
gears here. Now that we know that Joe Biden is
not going to be the guy, very very sad for
those of us who thought he'd make it all the
way through. When do you think the pardon that he
(25:23):
said would never happen for Hunter happens. Do you have
a take on when Joe's I would not pardon my son,
I'm actually going to pardon my son.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
I think it will be at the very last minute,
so that they can just ring every last drop of
freebes and trips on Air Force one and holidays in
Camp David, et cetera out of the presidency. And remember
Hunter has next month, he's quite important. It'll be long
(25:55):
tax trial in California, and that was the trial that
was going to be a big problem for Joe Biden
because it brings in all the Barisma money.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
Ukraine China, et cetera.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
And so I think the Democrats dodged a bullet in
that case, and perhaps that's tacked it into their thinking
because Hunter is in no mood to take a plea,
and it looks like the prosecutors are quite keen to
bring in pharough violations, so that would be very interesting.
And I think they'll just wait and see if he
(26:28):
gets a conviction and then pardon him at the end
of it. But you know he's going to get a pardon.
He was so sanguine about the guilty verdict from the
jury in Delaware over his gun felony that well, everyone
around him was very upset. He was just very calm,
cool and collected about it because he knows that there
(26:49):
are no consequences for him, like there never have been.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Miranda, you met and we went to Biden. I love
that you will share the president's schedule on a regular
I think you just shared that he's taking another four week,
four day weekend headed back to the beach house.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
What is actually going on here?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Because we may have an attack coming at any moment
from Hesbola and from Iran. That's why I'm not in
Israel right now because they canceled our flights. Seems like
kind of an important time for the president to be
near the situation room. I know they had him briefing
in the situation room recently, but is this sort of
a quiet quitting element of Biden where it's like he's
(27:33):
just pouting over being left behind and he's not doing anything.
I mean, I haven't even barely seen him. It's like
we don't have a president right now.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
It really is a joke. Day afterday the White House
puts out his schedule and it's like the other day,
the one thing on his schedule was that he gets
the daily brief. Yeah, normally that goes to a president
in the morning, so he knows what's going on to
the day. He was getting it at two fifteen pm,
So I mean, is he getting out of bed at
(28:03):
noon that he's doing nothing? And KJP was buttonholed about
that yesterday and her briefing, and she said, oh, no,
you know you're seeing the president. No, we're not, we're
not seeing the president. He's not anywhere. He's, as you say,
quiet quitting. And then going on these four day holidays
(28:23):
on the weekend and he's on holidays the whole time.
I mean, maybe he is pouting. Maybe he's been instructed
by the Democrats to just keep a low profile so
he doesn't get in the way of Kamela's wonderful debut
on the on the international stage. But uh, it's you know,
he should he should not be being paid, He should
(28:44):
quit entirely. If he's not capable of running for office,
then he's got to step down because this is very
dangerous and the American people deserve to know who is
making these mammoth decisions. Who decided to send a destroyer
over to Israel? What is going on?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Those are very valid questions. What is going on? Who's
in charge? We don't have any idea, Miranda Divine. I'm
glad that you guys are continuing to fight the good
battles at the New York Post. Encourage everybody to follow
you on Twitter slash x and make sure that they're
reading your columns as we do regularly on this program. Miranda,
we appreciate the time.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Thanks so much.
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You know we've got Sean Parnell, combat veteran New York
Times bestselling author and host of Battleground live on the
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subscribe to and listen to Sean's show. He'll be joining
us to talk about a few things. One is the
Walls not going with his unit to Iraq when it
was time to go. And then two, I want to
(32:28):
ask him he's a Pennsylvania and born and raised in
the Pittsburgh area and has run for office there and
knows the Pennsylvania GOP situation. Well, I want to ask him,
how are we looking in that state? So, especially since
it's not going to be Shapiro as we know, what
does it look like in Pennsylvania. I think it's a
very important conversation. So we're going to get into that.
(32:49):
We've got Steve in Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
What's going on Steve.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Clayan Buck.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
I would just like to say what a privilege it
is to be on your show.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
I was able to talk and the rush before he
pass on.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Oh no, he had an awesome opening sentenced Buck. Oh
wait is he still there? Do we still have him?
Speaker 8 (33:13):
Hello?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah, we're here.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Hello.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
So anyway, I'd just like to say I agree with
you guys a million percent on the left's take on
white privilege and older, older men's white privilege. That I'm
a fire chief that is going to be retiring in
five months. I spent thirty years in the fire Service,
(33:38):
was out of the house at eighteen years old, working
two or three jobs, going to school at night to
get my certifications, and kind of the same road that JD.
Vance took to get to where he's at, except I
didn't serve the military. And if the left wants to
consider that white privilege for all the things I went
through to become successful and still work three jobs now,
(34:00):
we'll be working jobs even after I retire from the
player service. That if the left think that that is privilege,
I would trade positions with anybody on the left any
time to get to where I am right now in life.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Thank you for the call. I do think, Buck, if
you were born and raised in the eighties, nineties, and
two thousands, I think the idea of white privilege is
a joke.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
To We actually were held to way higher.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Standards as white men than anyone else in the whole
country when it came to test, when it came to
qualification for anything.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Again, if you.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Are seventy or eighty, I think you probably did get
the benefit of being white. If you are in your twenties, thirties,
forties or younger, that doesn't exist anymore. No, I mean
it really you actually had reverse privilege correct or rather discrimination,
which is what the real word is when it came
to college and getting jobs and getting promoted and what
(34:56):
really else is there when you're talking about a system
and privileged than those things.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Those are pretty big things, pretty big things.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I think we should be in favor of the meritocracy
period for white, Black, Asian and Hispanic people, everybody held
to the same standard. What a crazy concept. Terrence in
Santa Rosa Beach, Florida. By the way, Santa Rosa Beach
beautiful place. Terrence, What do you think you want to
weigh in on Tim Walls deciding not to go to
Iraq with his team.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
Yes, I want to talk about command position and what
it means. I was a squadron commander of an F
sixteen international Guard squadron. And when you accept that position,
you know what it means. It means you go period dot.
No excuses. Waltz was in the Minnesota National Guard for
(35:45):
over twenty years. Who knows what command is. He accepted
the command position as a command master sergeant. He should
have gone, period dot. His excuse was whether he was
running for Congress. Well, his wife could have ran this campaign.
How about Nikki Haley's husband. He was deployed her entire campaign.
(36:06):
I only saw like one or two pictures of that guy.
So he has no excuses. It's stolen valor and he
didn't He should have gone. Those guys depended on him.
Now there the line guy, you know, private second class finished,
the first class finished his six year commitment, says, hey,
I'm not going that's a whole different story. But somebody
(36:28):
who's in for twenty years, he knows what it is.
The woman who was crying earlier about her daughter, she
got stop loocked. That's what it's called. It's called being
stop blocked. He should have been stop locked. I don't
know how he got out of that. You don't get
out of stop lock.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Thank you for the call. Finishing the break buck by
the way, JD. Vance Kamala Harris, same tarmac. In the airport,
Vance went to
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