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June 9, 2026 36 mins

Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast centers on the high-profile California governor’s race, election integrity concerns, voter ID legislation, and broader 2026 election developments, delivering a politically focused discussion driven by an in-depth interview with candidate Steve Hilton and extensive commentary from the hosts.

This hour opens with Steve Hilton providing a detailed update on the California gubernatorial primary, explaining that he is highly confident of securing a top-two finish and advancing to the general election, even as official results remain delayed due to prolonged vote counting across the state. A major focus is the extended timeline for ballot processing in California, with Hilton criticizing the system as inefficient and mismanaged, particularly highlighting rules that allow ballots without clear postmarks to be accepted if they include handwritten dates. The conversation frames these practices as contributing to widespread skepticism around election transparency and trust in the vote-counting process.

A dominant theme throughout Hour 2 is the debate over election integrity, with significant attention paid to mail-in voting, ballot harvesting, and post-election ballot collection. Hilton outlines concerns about legally permitted ballot harvesting operations, where organizations and unions collect large numbers of ballots and submit them, describing how this activity may influence late vote counts, particularly in Los Angeles. He also raises allegations about taxpayer-funded programs and nonprofit organizations being connected to political organizing efforts, which he claims intersect with voter registration and ballot collection efforts in ways that benefit Democratic candidates. Clay and Buck build on this, describing what they view as a broader system that complicates verification and makes proving wrongdoing difficult.

The discussion then shifts to a key voter ID ballot initiative in California, which Hilton says has strong public support and could be a near-term solution to many of the concerns being raised. The proposal would require government-issued identification for voting, whether in person or by mail, reducing reliance on signature verification processes that currently slow down vote counting. Clay and Buck strongly endorse voter ID laws, arguing they are consistent with requirements for other constitutional rights and would improve election confidence. They also debate the role of absentee and mail-in voting more broadly, suggesting that widespread early in-person voting could replace much of the current mail-based system.

Looking ahead to the general election, Hilton outlines his campaign strategy, emphasizing a message of economic reform, tax relief, and “common sense” governance. His policy priorities include eliminating taxes on the first $100,000 of income, lowering costs tied to regulation and energy, and addressing California’s affordability crisis. He frames the upcoming election as a fundamental choice between continued political dysfunction and practical reform, positioning himself against opponent Javier Becerra as a candidate offering a sharp break from current policies.

Beyond California politics, Hour 2 also includes analysis of national election developments, with a spotlight on a contentious Democratic Senate primary in Maine. The hosts discuss a rare public rebuke from a former campaign manager who criticized a leading candidate as unfit for office, using it to highlight internal divisions within the Democratic Party. Clay and Buck argue that party strategy often prioritizes electability over character concerns, drawing comparisons to previous national campaigns.

Additional segments explore campaign spending dynamics, particularly the failure of billionaire Tom Steyer to secure a top-two finish in California despite massive financial investment. This leads to a broader point about the limits of political advertising, with the hosts arguing that even heavy spending cannot overcome weak voter appeal. They also revisit recent national campaigns, suggesting that increased public exposure can sometimes hurt candidates rather than help them.

The hour concludes with listener calls and further discussion about early voting, voter ID requirements, and election-day procedures, with callers advocating for systems that require in-person voting with identification. Clay and Buck reiterate their belief that extended ballot deadlines and drawn-out counting processes undermine public confidence, calling for reforms that would require all votes to be received by Election Day.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second hour of play and Buck kicks off.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now we are joined by Steve Hilton, top two finisher
so far in that governor's race and for California. Of course, Steve,
first of all, what is the very latest, because I'm
sure you're up on it.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Where do things stand right now? Talk to us about
vote totals, the future. How's it looking?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, very latest is a very flexible term in California
when it comes to elections. It could be very late. Indeed, look,
we just did a press conference outside the vote center
in Los Angeles. I'll get to that in a second.
In terms of the race, you know, we're still in
the same position, which is we're very, very confident that
we've made it into the top two. Some have already

(00:46):
called it for us decision deaf HQ. We always took
the view in our campaign that we'd wait, you know,
slightly old fashioned, wait for the official AP call for
the race. That could happen today after the votes are
reported today, could be sometime this week. We're very confident though,
that we've made it. It doesn't seem any possibility that

(01:06):
Tom Stey can catch up. And that's why, you know,
some have already caught the race for me, but we're
just waiting for the AP to make it completely official
in terms of the actual count. It's just the shambles.
The shambles continues. You've still got certain counties in California
that have barely reported half the vote a week on.
It's a week since election day. It's just insane. I

(01:29):
just want to give you one indication of how insane
it is. Because even if you give them everything that
they're saying about why we have this ridiculous system where
they want, oh, every vote, you know, everyone to have
the chance to vote every possible way and maximum accessibility
or whatever. Okay, fine, give them that. So the concept
of this, we want, you know, if you want if

(01:49):
you vote by mail, we want to make sure that
everybody's vote is counted, and we want to treat you
the same as if you voted in person. So let's
just say you want to vote by mail, and you
leave it right up until election day, and then you
send your ballot in on election day in the mail,
just as if you showed up and voted in person.
Then we've got to give you time for the ballot
to arrive because it's the US Postal Service and who

(02:11):
knows how long you'll take, so they give you seven days. Okay, fine,
you would assume from that that in order that your
vote is counted in that seven day period, which is
just coming to an end today, they kind of check
that you really did send your mail ballot in on
or before election day. And of course we have very
simple way of doing that, which is look at the
postmark on the envelope. Well not in California, unbelievably, there

(02:36):
is a rule that says that if there is no postmark,
or if the postmark is illegible or whatever, or just
no postmark at all, it's okay if you handwrite the
date and it can be accepted. In other words, they
have legalized backdating your ballot. You could vote, You could

(02:56):
have voted yesterday, an election day, on it in hand,
and that would count. It's just unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
That's insane.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yes, this is absolutely crazy. We're talking to Steve Hilton.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
First of all, I'm gonna say it, congratulations on advancing.
I understand that you're waiting till the absolute latest moment,
and I know there's a lot of people very happy that.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
You have advanced. We were, like Steve Hilton, IPO investors here.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
We got in early. Some people were saying, is this guy, Siria, Oh,
we're very serious with Steve Hilton.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Go away.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
I need the state of California desperately needs you. I'm
sure that you have heard a ton about this. This
is something we took calls on all day yesterday. We
have been talking about it a great deal. The situation
in LA and the fact that the mail ballots are
drastically different than the early voting tallies that have come in.

(03:49):
For many people, it is just assigned that they can't
trust the the counting in California in general, but LA specifically.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
What do you see there?

Speaker 5 (04:01):
What can someone do who is in California that is
frustrated by this? What should happen going forward based on
what you're seeing on the ground there.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
So we were literally at that counting center just now,
just driving away from it, and the press conference that
I just held along with my running mate for Lieutenant Governor,
Gloria Romeira and the chair of the California Republican Party
was to say, I mean, there's so many things we
need to change with the system, but there's one really
big one that we can actually make happen very quickly

(04:33):
because it's on the ballot in November, and that is
voter ID. Voter ID is on the ballot this November.
We can actually have it in California. That would avoid
so much of this because one of the reasons it's
all taking so long is because they have to do
signature matching and verification by hand. They're all sitting around
in these offices peering at signatures. It's just insane. But

(04:56):
if you had voter ID, you wouldn't need any of that.
So that's something we can get done this now. In
terms of LA I want to be really this is
what I think is happening, and it's a complete example
of the corruption in California. I think what's going on
there is ballot harvesting where you've got the Again, this
is totally legal, where any individual organization can just go

(05:20):
around scooping up ballots many as they want, there's no
limit to the number, and just collecting them on people's
behalf and dropping them off of putting them in the
ail or whatever. And this is where the corrupt Democrat
machine comes in, and it actually connects to something that
we've been exposing during the course of this year through

(05:41):
cal DOJE. So remember, I mean we've probably talked about
some of these examples from a fraud reports. This is
when all this comes into play, because I'll give you
a couple of the examples. The cannabis tax in California,
when cannabis was legalized Proposition sixty four, a tax was
imposed that was supposed to go towards substance abuse prevention.

(06:01):
We tracked down that money we found three hundred and
fifty million dollars was actually siphoned off into Democrat political organizing,
all these hundreds of different groups doing voter registration, ballot harvesting,
all of this. Second example from the Climate Change Mitigation Fund,
one billion dollars with a B since twenty fifteen, one

(06:22):
hundred million every year supposedly spent on solar panels for
low income apartment buildings. We found that only seventy two
million was spent on that nine hundred and twenty eight
million went on Democrat political organizing, environmental justice groups, voter registration,
ballot harvesting. Third example Turler, This is our fourth fraud report.

(06:43):
Turler was the immigrants rights group far left group that
was really involved in about a year ago the riots
in La against Ice. They are supporting my opponent, Javier Biserra.
They have an office in Mexico which literally promotes illegal
immigration and explains people how to do it. This is
an organization that is eighty five percent funded by California taxpayers,

(07:07):
basically in arm of the government. It is we exposed.
It's political organizing manual. It takes taxpayer money because it's
mostly taxpayer funded, and pays illegal immigrants to do ballot harvesting.
So this is what's going on now. You're seeing this
machine in action. All this money that's been siphoned off

(07:28):
into these nonprofits. This is what they do and this
is the moment when they come into play. They just
go around and we hear reports unions doing it in
nursing homes and all the rest of it. Just collecting
ballots in quote marks, helping people fill out their ballot
and then turning them in. And I think that's what
happened in La.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
Question for you, thank you for all those specifics you
said on the ballot. Eighty percent of people are in
favor of basic ID being shown in order to vote.
What is the ballot initiative that is there in California
and for people out there who are skeptical some of
these ballot initiatives, for instance having to do with affirmative action,

(08:10):
even in California, which is a blue state, have absolutely trounced.
Right seventy thirty sixty five thirty five. What is the
ballot initiative and what are the possibilities when it comes
to passage as you see.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Them, So the ballot, the specific ballot INITIP would require
government approved ID to be shown when you vote. So
if you vote in person, you drive a license. If
you vote by mail, your Social Security number that's then matched.
So it's very you know, it's it's pretty accessible because

(08:43):
it's no change to the vote by mail system, which
I would like to change. But you know, we've tried
to get a realistic win. We tried to get maximum
support for it, so it means you have to use
government registered ID in order to vote, whether that's in
person or by mail. It has around seventy percent support
in California, that's the latest polling. It qualified for the ballot.

(09:04):
You have to get signatures to get on the ballot.
We got way over the necessary amount, so it's very
you know, it looks like you'll, well, it looks like
you'll get across the line. In fact, what today my
press conference was about not only making the point that
vote ID would feed this whole fast up, but I
offer to have you Abasera joined with me in campaigning

(09:26):
for it. Let's do it together. Let's just show people
that actually, for once, we can come together behind something sensible,
because the Democrat machine is a cause against Vote I D,
just as they are nationally, because it would get in
the way of all these things that they've been pushing.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
We're speaking here to Steve Hilton everybody, as we know,
he is in the top two right now for the
governor's race in California, and we are really pushing for him.
And Steve, can you just take us I know that
there's still you know, you're it's still not official official,
but looking pretty official. Assuming that it is what we think,
which is that you're going to be in this runoff

(10:05):
going forward, just take us through a little bit of
this timeline of what happens between now and election day.
What are the primary issues you're going to be hitting
in and what are you going to be doing to
get some of the people who maybe didn't vote for
you in the initial runoff to realize sanity is better
than the insane asylum vote.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Steve Hilton, Yeah, that's a very important word. We are
assuming that that's the case, and we're planning according We
have been since last Wednesday, honestly, because it was very
obvious on election night that we had a sufficient margin
to withhold any gains that Stier might make. Tom Steyer,
the billionaire climate fanatic, is number three, So we've been

(10:43):
planning since last Wednesday. The real campaign begins next week
once all this election, once the call is made. We're
very confident the call will be this week and so
we can get cracking next week. There are six Next
week is week one of sixteen weeks till Ballot's co house,
so we're not going to waste any time. And we'll
be doing two things, which is laying out a sense

(11:05):
of positive practical plan for cutting your costs, helping your business,
fixing our schools, just common sense things that everyone can
get behind. For example, my tax plan, your first one
hundred grand tax free. That's been very popular on the
campaign trailer. It's the quickest way. You know, we have
the highest cost of living in the country, thanks to

(11:27):
Democrat policies. All the different components of that we are
well known, the highest gas prices, highest housing costs, and
so on. But the simplest and quickest way we can
get more money in people's pockets is to take less out.
So that's the starting point, which is to cut your taxes,
especially for working people. We're going to be offering an
update to that plan. We've been doing the math to

(11:48):
expand that, and that'll be my first announcement next week.
So what you'll see is the same kind of campaigning
I've been doing now high energy up and down the States,
on positive practical changes. You know, your taxes, vehicle registration,
the small business registration fee, all these different things that
we can do that will cut the taxes, the bloat

(12:11):
in the government, and bring us back to sanity. The
word used there is exactly right. I just think of
this as not you know, this campaign for the next
sixteen weeks is going to be not about Republican Democrat.
It's are you on team sanity or not? Join team sanity.
That's the basic message. There's so much going on here
that is just insane, Importing oil halfway round the world,

(12:32):
shoving up our gas prices when we have abundant oil
reserves here in California. Doesn't make sense. There's so many
things like that. And at the same time, we'll be
prosecuting very strongly the case against Tavier Besserah because he
is exactly the kind of thing. I mean, he's more
of the same but worse. He's a thirty six years
a career politician. That's his whole life. He was asked

(12:56):
the other day, you'll be seeing an ad on this
coming out very shortly on an interview, what he would
change about what's happened that's brought us to these terrible
results in California policy wise, He gave basically the Kamala
Harris answer in that notorious interview on the view in
the general election campaigns Oh, I didn't think of anything.
He's more of the same but worse, and that is

(13:18):
going to be very much part of it. I mean,
the list of things that disqualify Havyebisarah from being governor
is a very long list. Even the Biden administration officials
that he worked with, the Biden cabinet officials, think that
he was useless. I mean, how incompetent do you have
to be if Biden's cabinet thinks you're too incompetent for them,

(13:39):
and it's just it's a very long list, and so
that's going to be the combination. You cannot have this guy.
It's more of the same cost in competence and corruption.
But he is a positive, practical plan for change. So
I'm looking I'm excited about it. This is what it's
all been about. And I know people look at California
and say, oh, no chance, very heavily Democrat state, whatever,
But you know, we've reached a point where people are

(14:00):
really ready for change, and I think we're going to
pull it off.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Steve Hilton, everybody, Steve, what's your website for the campaign?

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Steve hiltonfogovernor dot com.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Fol guys, let's help Steve bring home the w California listener, Steven,
thanks for being with us.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Great to talk to you, of course, see you thing, guys.
Thank you.

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Speaker 5 (15:28):
Welcome back in rolling through the Tuesday edition of the program. Again, reminder,
South Carolina and Maine are both voting, as well as
Nevada and North Dakota South Carolina. Big battle in both
the governors and the Senate race Maine. A lot going

(15:48):
on with everything surrounding Graham Platner and Buck. I don't
know if you saw this, but I was reading this
morning as I was doing prep. The Washington Post published
an editorial from Graham Platner's former campaign manager saying that
he is uniquely unqualified to be a United States Senator

(16:11):
and that her head the headline for the Washington Post,
Buck is I know firsthand why grand Platner shouldn't be
a US senator. I quit the campaign last fall disturbed
by what I learned about the main Democratic Senate primary candidate.

(16:31):
It's not very often do you have a campaign manager
go scorched earth inside of the Washington Post saying this
guy's uniquely unqualified. Her name, by the way, Genevieve McDonald,
former Maine state representative, former political director of grand Platner's
campaign in Maine. She started in August of twenty twenty five,

(16:53):
so she knows him quite well.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Buck.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Look, I think Democrats would rally around Vlad the Impaler
if they thought vlat had a good shot of winning
a senatecye Like, they just don't care. It simply does
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(17:19):
sit here and you know, talk about how what a
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We'll see obviously primary is happening right now. But if
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(17:40):
and they just were going to roll with it. They
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had dementia, right.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
So there's nothing that they're not willing to do. So, yeah,
it's still kind of staggering.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
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Speaker 1 (18:52):
Welcome back in here too, play and Buck and we've
got so much happening here, so much to talk to
you all about. We just had on before. Steve Hilton
and he see Clay, I think that what that was
really important because notice he was speaking because obviously, as
somebody in the governor's race and the top two contender,

(19:16):
which means he has a very serious shot of becoming
the governor of California, he really knows what he's talking about.
In an era of a lot of stuff flying around,
you know, Clay, apparently the thing about all the votes
went for one candidate in the ballot, you know, in
one of the ballot dumps, it was not accurate, and
even people who are on the right on Republicans there

(19:38):
said no, no, no, that's not actually true, but that was
caught on like wildfire online. My point is, when you're
talking about election integrity, stuff got to have the facts
straight because the moment that the narrative becomes, hey, you're
cheating because of X or Y, and it turns out
X or Y or legitimate and fine Z, which is

(20:01):
the real reason, gets discounted as part of the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
You see what I mean?

Speaker 1 (20:05):
This is why we gotta stay, gotta stay on the specifics,
on the reality, on the fact, gotta stay where the
facts are really and Steve Hilton was doing that. You'll
notice he was walking through those things. He was saying,
those are huge issues. The fact that there's a giant
NGO industrial complex paying illegals to collect ballots on behalf

(20:26):
of Democrats and that that's legal under California law. Is crazy, yes,
but that's happening. That's happening. When you have to understand
is that in a place like California, a lot of
public money, state money, taxpayer dollars goes to filters its
way to these NGOs. So you have NGOs getting taxpayer
dollars that are then turned around to use illegals as

(20:49):
the labor force to elect Democrats who want more illegals
to come into the country. This is the self licking
ice cream cone. This is the problem that we're talking about.
So I caution you to just scream fraud, fraud, fraud,
and then start attaching to it things that aren't necessarily
accurate or that there's because that is the favorite thing

(21:11):
that Democrats can have is Republicans in this race or
in any race saying that this is a fraud, and
they go, actually, we can prove it's not, haha, and
then they don't want to hear anything else beyond behind that.
Mike Johnson, for example, here Clay is saying this is
he's saying that what's going on in California stinks to
high heaven. This is eleven play it.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
I'm not saying it's rigged.

Speaker 7 (21:34):
I'm saying it stinks to high heaven, and everybody knows that.
Let's let's let's remove the appearance of impropriety. Let's have
what a concept, Let's have votes on an election the
day of the election. That's what many states are able
to do. I think California is playing around with us.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
But what evidence is there to prove that there was
a ringing?

Speaker 7 (21:52):
I don't Some of these efforts are so diabolical and
so far upstream that is impossible to prove. But I
think everybody knows instinctively something is wrong here, and that's
a concern. We need people to believe in the integrity
of our election system.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
See.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
I agree with everything Mike Johnson says there, Clay, it's
about the appearance of integrity. It's about the common sense
application here of rules and regulations. But he's not making
why he's not running with wild conspiracies. The appearance of
impropriety is a huge part of our legal standards for
a long time as it pertains to elections, and if

(22:26):
you think about it, it makes total sense. It's not only impropriety,
it's not only fraud, it's the appearance of impropriety and
fraud which delegitimizes the elections themselves. And I thought the
other thing that Steve Hilton said with us Buck that
was so significant was that there is a referendum on
the ballot this fall that appears to have seventy percent

(22:49):
of the support of California voters that would require some
form of ID for elections to occur. Now, unfortunately, it
would still permit male ballaty, which is a huge part
of this right. I mean, when you really analyze all elections,
requiring someone to go in person with an ID to
vote should be the standard upon which all of our

(23:12):
elections are based. Now, should there be a small minority
of the overall population that can get absentee ballots? Yes,
But given that we have expanded early voting in many
states for weeks in advance of election day, I don't
even buy into the fact that there should be very
much mail or absentee If you're a soldier in your
overseas and you aren't able to travel for an entire

(23:35):
month to vote, I think most people would say, yes,
that can make sense if you can't get to a
public place in your place that is your primary residence
for an entire month.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
I'm just gonna be honest.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
If from October first to November five, or whatever the
heck election day is, you are not physically present in
the state or the jurisdiction in which you are voting,
I gotta be hot with you. A big part of
me doesn't think that you're spending enough time in that
jurisdiction to need to vote right for a full month
of in person voting, if you can't find the time

(24:10):
and you aren't physically able to get there, I got
to be honest with you. I don't think you're being
hamstrung or treated unfairly. And every single person out there
has had to show their ID for picking up movie
tickets for certainly, people say, well, buying go to a
movie or going to a concert is not a constitutional right. Okay,

(24:33):
buying a gun is? Is there anybody out there buck
you're the way more of an expert than I am.
Is it possible in any way to buy a weapon
legally in the United States without showing an ID?

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Nope, you can't go to an ffelon do it, that's
for sure.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
So, I mean you have a Second Amendment right to
possess weapons. You have to show an ID to be
able to buy a gun. I don't think most people
out there would say, Hey, that's totally fine to be
able to go to to guns out of the back
of people's trunks. And my point is constitutional rights all
come with regulations that are designed to make sure that
that constitutional right is not only protected for you, but
for everyone else. And I think some of these referendums,

(25:12):
because buck they're not particularly connected to Democrat or Republican,
they pass and they're actually very right of center. I mean,
the Affirmative Action in California has been crushed property taxes.
California has some of the most restrictive property tax laws
of any state in the nation because property tax got

(25:35):
so out of control California and said we're not going
to allow this. So I think the vast majority of
Californians listening to us right now are in favor of ID.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
I think on federal law, I've never done a private
sale like this, but I think federal law mandates that
you cannot sell a firearm to a prohibited person you
have to make sure that they reside in the same
state as you. You can't sell it across state lines,
and you have to make sure that they are of
age in that state worthy sale. So you kind of
need to see someone's ID to do that. But there's

(26:05):
not a specific ID. But if you go to an
FFL though, for sure, because they're gonna wun nix check
on you and everything else. So just I know the
gun people out there, I don't want to get lit
up by you guys. I understand my point on it.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
When you say, hey, there should be some restrictions, people say, well,
voting is a constitutional right and we're not going to
restrict in any way constitutional rights. And then you say, okay,
so there should be zero restrictions on all firearms.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
There's enormous and endless restrictions on the Second Amendment, which
I think the restrictions often veer into what is unconstitutional,
certainly in blue states, and we're supposed to accept that.
For some reason, there's apparently no restrictions on voting in
the state of California.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Other than you got to be like a legal residence.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
But there's no checks and balances to see if you
are a legal resident to be putting the vote in
that you are, like, they don't want to verify. There's
no verification process. There's a lot of verification or gun ownership,
so it's treated quite differently. And you know, you get
to the why is it that they're always so opposed

(27:10):
to voter ID Well, I think we know why because
they're opposed everywhere and anywhere. And the once you start
adding into this the NGO industrial complex where they have
vote harvesting going on, they say, prove the fraud. And
I understand this is a valid response. Clator, what I
was saying about be specific. Know what you're talking about

(27:31):
with what is illegal or what the fraud is that
you're trying to cite. One of their rejoinders is, well,
you know, prove it, and from our side it's often yeah, Well,
the whole point is you make the law so that
it's impossible to prove if you can, if you can
hand right back data ballot, how could you even theoretically
prove that that's not You see what I'm saying, Well,

(27:52):
what are you gonna do? It's kind of like an
honor system thing, and people have no honor a lot
of the time. When you're talking about these sorts of issues.
So yeah, it's a big it's a it's a big mess.
They like it to be messy.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
I also think what Steve was talking about is important
because it starts to explain how the data is coming
out as it is.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
There is right now.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
I believe there was when they looked at the nit
Tya Ramen La mayor race numbers, they saw those coming
in and they said, if your Karen Bass's team were
in right, Nitya Ramin's team.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
Started she started crying.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
On election night, they said, we have to do whatever
it takes to get as many ballots complete as possible.
The story of how she went from when people went
all in person and voted, she got whatever it was,
twenty one percent of the overall vote, and then she
starts to get forty percent of the vote when it
comes to mail ballots. I think that's a hard explanation

(28:54):
other than the rig job was in effect and they
knew that they had to get her above Spencer Pratt,
and they put out the code read to make it happen.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
And again, this is why all votes should have I.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
Hope the Supreme Court is going to solve this buck
All votes should have to be in by election day period.
I mean, this sounds crazy that you would even have
to make this argument. Every single vote should have to
be in the possession of your jurisdiction on election day.

(29:27):
By the time the ballots officially closed a week later,
votes can still arrive in California.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
How in the world is that remotely constitutional? It can't be.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
I hope the Supreme Court itself is going to step
in and solve some of this, because I think it
would make the ballot harvesting and the vote chasing post
election day. I think it would make it much more
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Speaker 4 (31:00):
Real keeping it right, Clayan Buck.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
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Speaker 4 (31:06):
Welcome back in play and Buck.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
We got a bunch of calls also, we got a
bunch of talkbacks that I want to get to.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
But let's go to the callers first because they've been
waiting a little while.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
Paul in Idaho, fire away, Paul, what you got for us?

Speaker 8 (31:20):
Hey, guys, you know in Idaho here we vote early.
You can go vote like a week ahead of time,
but you still have to show your ID and cast
your ballot.

Speaker 9 (31:30):
And it works great.

Speaker 8 (31:32):
Yes, I can't they do that other places?

Speaker 5 (31:35):
I agree with you one hundred billion percent. I do
that oftentimes. I like to vote on election day sometimes,
But in Tennessee, I think we have a great system.
You can go vote weeks in advance, you show up
with your ID, you get your ballot processed, or you
can vote on election day. This whole male business, I
think is absolutely insane.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Richard.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
You're up in Maine, big primary going on in Maine today,
along with South Carolin, Nevada, and North Dakota.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
What you got for.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Us there is we are.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
It's about them, which Janet Mills. She backed off for
one simple reason. Evidently the powers that be asked to
back off because they knew this guy Platiner has so
much stuff on him that you know he's not gonna
make it because there's more more bad news coming down
the pike. So after he wins tonight, they've got till
the fifteenth, I believe, to keep him in here. But

(32:28):
they're gonna pull him and they're gonna run Janet Mills
against Collins.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Thank you for the call.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
Look, they're gonna have to force him out. If if
we see tonight Platner Grand Platner wins. If he wins,
then they're gonna have to force him to drop out
or he's gonna be the nominee. And I don't know
to what extent they can force him out. Uh, you
could find yourself in a Biden Kamala like situation. We'll

(32:56):
see whether there's more revelations coming out by about him.
By the way, Bob out in California, where obviously much
of the eyes of the nation have been since the
primary last week.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Bob, thanks for calling, Hi.

Speaker 9 (33:09):
Thank you for having having Kieve on today. It was
great listening to him. I'm glad to see he's far
enough ahead so that it's too big to rig I
love that phrase. The one that I'm really having a
hard time with is that there are thirty percent of
the ballots that still have not been counted yet. And

(33:31):
in thirty seconds after Rahman overtook our guy, Spencer Pratt, well,
they ap called it and said, oh, he's in, he's out,
She's in. That's a drag.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Thank you for the call. Yeah, Buck.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
It is kind of amazing how quickly as soon as
the Democrat side takes control the calls end up being made.
And Steve Hilton rightly pointed out to be fair the
A he has still not called him in as one
of the two finalists, but they got Nitsy Raman in
you know, much faster, even though lots of ballots still

(34:09):
remain out.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
I just don't know who to trust anymore now that
Scott Pelly isn't there on the on the TV screen
telling me who the next mayor of Los Angeles will be.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
By the way, can you imagine we haven't even really
talked very much about him, but Tom Steyer is going
to end up in third place in California. Can you
imagine spending two hundred million dollars and not being able
to get into the top two in California.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
That's kind He's listening so much political consultant money on fire,
because remember the political consultants.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Get a piece of the advis they do.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I feel like, I don't know how do I get
on some of that stire money to be pay me
to be a consultant for your crappy campaign that's never
going to actually go anywhere.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
He spent three hundred million dollars in the twenty twenty
presidential election, but it at least that was president, you know, like, yeah, Okay,
he wasted it. Two hundred million to not come in
the top two when you are a Democrat in California
is kind of I mean that just basically means everybody
hates you, but like because you got your message out right, Like.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah, because unaware. Just soever. Note that the money in
these things, it's media bized.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Really, that's where the money some staff costs, yes, but
it's really just buying and it's mostly in politics still
TV ads, some social media too, but it's TV ads
in the markets that you're trying to go. That is
where the bulk of this funding of this campaign funds goes.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
So play.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
What that means is people see sty or on TV thatever,
they're like, nah, sorry. You can say one hundred ads
a day about style, You're like nah sorry.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
This is why I think kama at twenty twenty four
is so funny. Her angle that she's going with is
people didn't have enough time to hear my arguments, which
I get because she lost. She spent a billion more
dollars than Trump did. People knew what Kamala was in
favor of, they just overwhelmingly rejected it.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Well, she also wants us to forget that the the
Kamala numbers got worse, the more people got to actually
hear from Kamala. Harris, yes, and that the initial campaign's
strategy was a version of the bid didn't hide him
in the basement strategy, but that started to look too

(36:23):
desperate and pathetic, So then they got to hear from her,
and then they.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Liked her even less.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
That's actually what that So, Yeah, it is very very
funny just to think about, because that's the argument she's
gonna go with. By the way, Kamala fifty percent Black
Democrat voter support, Buck second place, ten percent, Gavin Newsom,
Caesar on, and she's gonna be the nomin eight

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