May 6, 2026 • 34 mins
In Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts deliver a fast-paced and wide-ranging analysis centered on breaking economic trends, redistricting battles, immigration policy, and the broader political landscape heading toward the midterm elections, while also incorporating listener calls and expert commentary. This hour emphasizes that Hour 2 of the program is driven by a mix of optimistic economic indicators, evolving electoral strategy, and ongoing debates over governance, federalism, and public policy in the United States.
The hour begins with a strong focus on positive economic news and market performance, with the hosts highlighting that the stock market is reaching record highs, including gains in the S&P 500, NASDAQ, and Dow Jones Industrial Average, signaling investor confidence tied to potential geopolitical stability involving Iran. In addition, oil and gas prices are declining from recent highs, which the hosts frame as a key development for inflation, consumer spending, and overall economic sentiment. They connect these trends directly to everyday Americans, emphasizing that energy prices, stock market gains, and retirement accounts like 401(k)s remain central indicators of economic health.
A major portion of Hour 2 is devoted to redistricting and election strategy, particularly in Republican-led states. The hosts explain that multiple states, including Tennessee, Louisiana, Alabama, and South Carolina, are actively pursuing or considering new congressional maps that could significantly increase Republican representation in the U.S. House of Representatives. The Tennessee example is highlighted as especially impactful, with a proposed shift to a 9–0 Republican congressional delegation, eliminating what they describe as a previously Democrat-held district. This is positioned as part of a larger trend of aggressive redistricting following legal challenges to race-based gerrymandering, suggesting major electoral implications for upcoming congressional races.
The conversation also revisits Indiana’s primary election results, where several Republican state senators who refused to support redistricting efforts were defeated decisively by voters. The hosts interpret this as a grassroots rejection of what they describe as “establishment” or “moderate” Republicans, signaling a shift toward a more aggressive political approach within the party. They argue that these results demonstrate increased voter demand for stronger partisan strategy and alignment with national political priorities, particularly in deep-red states.
Another key topic in Hour 2 is education policy and state-level performance comparisons, with a surprising emphasis on Mississippi’s improving academic outcomes, particularly among Black students. The hosts highlight data suggesting that students in Mississippi are outperforming their counterparts in states like California, despite significant differences in funding and resources. This is framed as evidence supporting policy-driven education reform, including phonics-based instruction and local governance decisions, reinforcing broader discussions about federalism and the role of states as “laboratories of democracy.”
The hour also features a detailed interview segment with Congressman Jim Jordan, who provides insight into federal immigration policy, congressional priorities, and ongoing legislative efforts. Topics include the push for legislation targeting sanctuary cities, ICE enforcement policies, and funding for immigration enforcement, as well as concerns about opposition from local prosecutors and jurisdictions resisting federal immigration laws. The interview expands into related issues such as Medicaid fraud investigations, particularly in states like Ohio, highlighting concerns about government waste, fraud, and oversight.
In addition, the hosts discuss the status of mass deportation policies and immigration enforcement, noting that while it was a major campaign priority, some listeners perceive a slowdown in activity. Congressman Jordan responds by outlining legislative efforts to address what he describes as systemic challenges created by prior border policies, sanctuary jurisdictions, and limited enforcement resources, offering a broader perspective on how immigration enforcement is being addressed at the federal level.
Beyond politics, the show also explores college sports governance and the evolving challenges facing NCAA programs, including the financial strain leading to program cuts at universities like Arkansas. This discussion touches on Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) policies, Title IX implications, and broader structural issues in college athletics, with lawmakers considering potential reforms to stabilize the system.
The final segment of Hour 2 shifts toward regional quality-of-life concerns and infrastructure challenges, highlighted by liste
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, let's get some good news. Buck our number two underway.
Let me hit you with a bunch of positivity. By
the way, President Trump speaking right now in the White
House live to military moms. We will see if he
takes questions, and certainly will update you if that curved. Okay,
(00:24):
So right off the top, the stock market is hitting
record highs a new as the S and P five
hundred in the Nasdaq, the Dow is close to a
record high, all reacting positively to potential peace in Iran.
We will see what different directions this may go before
(00:46):
all is said and done. But the price of oil
and gas down about seven bucks today to about ninety
five dollars a barrel. When the war started, gas was
sixty eight dollars a barrel, so this is significant to
bring it back down. We talked yesterday about the idea
that I threw out that some people liked and other
(01:07):
people thought was crazy, of the United States providing insurance
to several of the tankers that are currently sitting, not moving,
in the Strait of Hormuz. And we will continue to
update you on how that is going. But rest assured,
if you have four oh one k's April was one
(01:27):
of the best months we have seen for stocks in years.
Stock market skyrocketed, and last year in April, you'll remember
they said, oh, my goodness, President Trump's going to destroy
the economy. And the reality is that the S and
P five hundred is up twenty four hundred points roughly
(01:50):
since April of last year, which is a crazy increase
over forty percent just since then. So all of that
is underway on the economic front. Oil prices down and
stock market to record high, So that is positive.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Buck also positive there.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Is right now, I think a significant chance that certainly
many Southern states are going to be redrawing their congressional
district maps and that that is going to have a
potentially transformative impact on the House races coming up this fall.
And let me tell you about this, in particular, the
(02:35):
state of Tennessee. While we are on the air and
I was following it, I was trying to zoom in
to look at all the different districts. The state of
Tennessee while we are on the air, has released a
brand new map which would eliminate the so called Democrat
racially Jerry Mander seat in Memphis and would deliver the
(02:56):
entire state of Tennessee nine to zero from eight to
one for the Republican Party. Louisiana is redrafting and redrawing
the lines in its state. Alabama is doing the same.
South Carolina is as well, And so the impact here
can end up being pretty substantial when you combine it
(03:17):
with what went on down in Florida where DeSantis redrew
the maps and we talked about with the House Speaker
yesterday that new map.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Buck. Let me also tell you this, there is I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Being hitting a title waves of positivity. Oh my gosh,
everything's so good, Claire, I can't handle all the good things.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Keep it coming.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
There is I think a lot of nervousness in Virginia
about whether the map that they voted on to make
a ten to one advantage in Virginia is going to
be legal. And as we are speaking, the FBI has
rated the Senate pro Tem of Virginia, the Democrat who
(03:58):
is near the top of the Virginia State Senate. And
there are substantial allegations of wrongdoing there having to do
with a lot of different fraud. Now all of that,
I would also put this in the positive category. Last
night in Indiana we called these guys out. We had
(04:20):
Senator Banks on. We might need to have him on
again because he led the charge on this. He may
be listening right now as he's driving around in Indiana.
Senator Banks said, it's unacceptable what the Indiana Senate did.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
State Senate.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
And there are other many different of you listening to
us right now who are Republicans in Indiana that were
very frustrated by this too. Indiana, as you see raw
naked partisan politics from so many different blue states and
even purple states like Virginia where Democrats currently have control.
Indiana said we don't want to violate norms. We're not
(04:57):
going to redistrict the Senate. I think the House passed it.
The Senate there several of the Republican senators said no.
They basically got wiped out last night in the primary,
and many of these races buck were not remotely close.
Five of them have lost their seats. One of them is,
I am told, going to lose his seat. Before all
(05:19):
is said and done, we'll see six of them swept out.
And I think that a lot of people in Indiana
are waking up this morning and saying we're tired of
having sort of what I would say, Buck is the
country club Republican element that has been unwilling to actually
realize the fight that we're in.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
And so I just gave you a long litany.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I know there's a lot of negativity the news and
everything else, but sometimes all the positive gets snowed under.
There's a lot of really positive things happening right now.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
That was quite a list, I'd say, very very impressive.
Do you want me to bring us all down?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Now? Now?
Speaker 5 (05:58):
What do you have?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
What's the one that you've got.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
To Well, for one thing, this Iran negotiation, the framework
of a deal that's going to leave the nukes till later.
I told you guys, this is what was going to
happen the whole time, as they're basically going to settle
for the strait is opened and hostilities have ceased, and
we'll figure out the nuclear part later, which means that
nuclear part's never really going.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
To be figured out.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
That's what I think ends up happening with that, but
I could be wrong. And other than that, I would
like to see some mass deportations which have not really happened.
Not hearing a lot about that right now. That was
a major promise of twenty twenty four, and it feels
like that has been pushed little the wayside. I do
think the gas prices are gonna are going to start
(06:44):
to come down substantially. I agree with that, So I
don't have any I'm trying to think of what else
I could be really negative about. I'm looking for negativity
right now. We're all going to die.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
That is true. Sorry, We're all going to die. That
is a reality, but hopefully not hopefully not very soon.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Hopefully not from high gas prices. You know that tie
all these things together. But no, Look, I think that
last night was actually encouraging the result in Indiana's encouraging
for a lot of people who felt like Republicans. Here's
the problem. We've seen some of the worst Republican politicians.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
We get.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
By worst, I'll be specific here, I mean the ones
that are the quickest to betray important promises made to
the base that they made, perhaps even to get elected.
Some of the worst Republicans come from red states, very
red states, and there's a frustration I think for a
lot and that I'm talking about a lot of you
(07:41):
right now who go through this with you know, so
we vote and we get these Republicans in and they
don't do anything people vote for. They don't pay attention
to the primary. We get these rhinos. Okay, well there
was something of a capturing of the rhinos that are
last night and in Indiana. I know it's only a
(08:02):
state Senate issue, but it affects Congress. So that's why
it's a national issue because the redistricting it shows you
that there can be consequences for this Clay. I don't
think another red state legislature is gonna say we don't
want to do redistricting because that would be mean, which
is really the really the argument that Remember we were
(08:23):
in Indiana actually right around when this was going on,
when we were asking people, they were like, hold on
a second, why aren't they doing to the code?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It's not collegial and feels like it's a little bit
of spiking the football and the Democrats face it's.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Like, can we do that times a thousand? Why aren't
we doing that?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Look, I think what happened was Virginia ended those guys
political career. Trump was a big part of it, but
I think a lot of Indiana Republicans saw what the
nakedly partisan move of Virginia, and they said, you can't
just keep getting punched in the face and say, well,
(08:59):
that wasn't very nice.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Oh you just broke my nose. There's blood running down
my face.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I wish you hadn't done that, but oh well, you
violated protocols. I'm gonna remain non violent. That's tough to take,
right And so metaphorically speaking, we're getting punched in the
face time after time, and I think a lot of
people are fed up with it. I think Tennessee's fed
up with it. Tennessee just said, hey, we're going to
(09:24):
have a nine to zero state. We're going to make
ourselves redder than we've ever been before. And you know what,
the great thing about this is book the entire original
basis of federalism in this country was every state should
be a laboratory. And states that make good decisions are
going to get more people moving into them and are
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going to have more economic success. And states that make
poor decisions are going to have fewer people moving there
and are going to have less economic success. And I
think we're getting a great experiment in federalism right now
because the states that are read are giving the people
more economic freedom lower taxes. You know what, that's leading
to better schools. We haven't talked about it. You've seen
(10:07):
the data coming out of Mississippi. Everybody has been kicking
Mississippi in the teeth for years. They make fun of Mississippi,
say Mississippi is not doing well. Mississippi is kicking everybody's
ass in school now, and even a New York Times
columnists came out and said, wait a minute, Black kids
in Mississippi now are out performing black kids in California.
(10:30):
This is kind of a big story because California has
spending way more money to educate kids, and yet black
kids in Mississippi are trouncing black kid performance in California. Again,
the federalism argument here. It's a great story, the Mississippi miracle.
We talked about it with Linda McMahon on this program.
You know what Mississippi said, let's just get back to
basic phonics.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
We have cut twenty two.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Nicholas Christoff, who's a whiny lib but he says something
that's correct.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Here.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Play it in our blue places where we have governance,
we have every bit as much of an affordability crisis,
in part because of a stranglehold of regulations. And you know,
we talk a good game about the importance of education,
and yet a black kid in Mississippi is two and
(11:19):
a half times as likely to be proficient in math
and reading by fourth grade as a black kid in California.
And so I mean, do we need to look a
little bit less at what the Trump administration is doing
to harm working class families and.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Look a little more in the mirror? Man?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Can I just say Their real answer, play is they
don't want to do that. They just want to say
Trump is awful. That's right, because the Democrat Party has
truly become a party of Trump arrangement syndrome because it's
so easy, because what are you going to say. What
are you going to say to Democrats in California who
vote for you when it's Hey, the black kids in Mississippi,
in their school system in Mississippi are doing great. And
(12:03):
are black kids here in California in the you know,
the pinnacle of blue state governance and wealth. I might add,
Mississippi is not a wealthy state. No, are way behind
the Mississippi kids. How do you explain that to the
base of the Democrat Party. It's a great story, It's
a great story.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I mean, and and Mississippi should be taken victory lapse
and everybody should be looking at Mississippi and saying, how.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Something you didn't expect to hear, How can.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
We educate our kids as well as Mississippi is. But
I mean again, I think this is just a function.
Governor Tate reeves the choices that they have made in
Mississippi have benefited everybody. And by the way, most of
those kids in Mississippi, the black kids, a lot of
their parents are voting Democrat, but they're getting the benefit
of Republican politics. And if I'm sitting around in California
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right now, and I'm a black mom and dad, and
I'm paying high time axes, and I'm sending my kids
to California schools, and I hear that Mississippi schools are
dominating the performance that my kids are getting. I got
a lot of questions to ask. And it goes to
your point, Buck, if you actually have to provide results,
(13:16):
the results of Democrat policies make everything worse for everybody.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That's the reality.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, that's absolutely that is that is these summations, sir, Counselor.
We can the case rests I mean, but to.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Your point, it is interesting to think about when Trump's
gone in the Great Satan and they can't point to
him and everything else, what did Democrats actually stand for?
That's going to be something they really have to grapple with,
I think in twenty eight because a party that hates
Trump is not actually first of all, very good in
terms of policy, but also it doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Well, this is like, if you start to push some
of these left wing socialist types today on any of
these issues, if they'll even engage, which they usually won't,
you say, what exactly if you guys accomplished and yeah,
like you know the eight hour work day, and it's
like it wasn't like a hundred years ago. What have
you guys done lately? Other them just mess everything up,
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you always run out of other people's money.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
And thank you, thank you for calling in, Donn. It
is a great quote I think to be just to
clarify a little bit there, appreciate your call, Thank you
for listening. We're saying that they don't understand how business functions.
We understand that they understand that capitalism creates a lot
of money. They just their thieves. I believe our friend
(16:52):
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they have the thief They have the thief mindset, And
that is true. They just want to take your stuff.
They want to come up with some rationale to take
your stuff and say that it should go to them
or someone else.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
And then the math here does ultimately matter, because that's
why I'm focused on people who it's not a surprise.
The more money you make, the more taxes you pay. Unfortunately,
because of federal income taxes, all of us are required
to pay a lot. If you're in the top fifty
percent of earners, you pay a lot of federal income tax.
(17:29):
Bottom fifty percent pays nothing. In fact, many of them
actually get our money given to them. That's a whole
nother story, all right. But on the actual tax for
local jurisdictions, when you leave there aren't that many people
when you actually look at the raw numbers, who make
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Speaker 3 (18:44):
Often because of his run for president, he's got a
lot of money, which he's did some self funding of
his campaign already. Based on the campaign disclosures, how are
you feeling about that governor's race. Is that also really
just he has to stay the course. Trump will show
up and we'll get it done.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I think so. In the Vik's good onness stump. I mean,
he's out there talking about how how I wants to
move to get rid of the income tax, which I
think is great. He's talking about school choice, He's talking
about things I think are good, important issues for families
in this state. And he's running against Amy Acton, who
is as as you guys know, has been given the
name of the Fauci of Ohio because she was the
health director for former governor or as soon to be
(19:24):
former governor to Wine during the whole COVID stuff, and
she was almost as bad as Fauci. I mean, I
remember see wanted to close golf courses for goodness sake,
So you know what what what's the golfing is is
the definition of social diss She was one to talk
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Speaker 2 (19:43):
I'm off on my own a lot.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah exactly. Sola's like, uh, I feel good about that
race too. And then we have the ninth district up
in the Toledo area of Arsity. Captain has been in
Congress you know, forever, and uh, we got a chance,
I think, to win that race as well. So you know,
I feel pretty good in this redistruating effort that's going
to now happen in the South and lie of the
Supreme Court decision, I think that that's going to help us,
(20:05):
and so I think we can sort of devide the
historical trend and maintain the House.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
In the Senate, Uh, the Senate obviously, for people out
there who aren't paying attention, if Ohio holds on on
the Republican side, there's basically no math that allows uh,
the Democrats to take control of the Senate. I think
you certainly see the map on both the House and
the Senate side, but that for people who may not
be paying attention, the road to a majority for Democrats
(20:33):
has to run through Ohio.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, you're exactly right. I mean, you know, if we
if we can't you know, keep North Carolina, if we
if we don't take Georgia, if we would even lose Maine,
and you know, if we can't, if we don't pick
up Michigan, which I think we don't. I don't think
that's necessarily what the outcome is going to be. You're
exactly right, Clay that that for the Democrats to get there,
they got to get our state. And I think that's
(20:55):
why you'll see. You know, I think that the Democratic
Senatorial Campaign Committee already reserve like seventy nine dollars for
TV ads for shared brown here in Ohio. So it's
going to be much like the last go around where
Senator Marino and Senator McCormick are are good senators from
Ohio Pennsylvania. Those were like the most expensive races ever.
(21:16):
I expect Ohio to be just like that.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Speaking of Congress and Jim Jordan of Ohio, I think
you've got to hearing coming up right on legal dealing
with some illegal immigration stuff, Sanctuary city policies. We talk
about that issue that in the economy, I think are
the two most common things for us to talk about overall.
Here on the show, there was huge focus on it,
and you're one of the Trump presidency. I think that
(21:40):
we got the Iran conflict, got some other things that
have been getting a lot of attention recently. Are these
deportations happening? Is the administration still focused on this? It
feels like there's been a little bit of a let off,
let off the gas pedal. Maybe after Minneapolis and those
lunatics confronting ICE people ISA agents.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
No, I think there's still the folkus and certainly we
have the focus. We've passed the Sanctuary Jurisdiction Shutdown Act
out of our committee a few weeks back. We want
that to be on the House floor here in the
coming weeks and hopefully even get to the Senate and
pass and become law. But I think it's important to
understand what the Democrats have been doing. I mean, think
about their plan. First, it was four years of just
wide open border ten man migrants come into the country.
(22:22):
Then they create sanctuary jurisdictions which makes it difficult to
remove those migrants when they commit another crime. And then
they say, oh, we're not going to fund the guys
who do the removing. We're not going to fund ICE.
I mean that's their plan. And now we have this
guy and we just wrote this guy letter to get
information from this Krasner DA in Philadelphia, one of these
left wing das. He's now threatening two arrest ICE agents.
(22:44):
So first, let in ten million, then make it tough
to apprehend them and deport them if they commit another crime.
Then don't fund ice and now, oh, we're going to
go arrest you as if it was you know, it
wasn't enough that they they were by the left wing
agitators were spitting on them and yelling at him, swearing
at them and threatening them and docking them and tracking
them and all that stuff they did to them, whether
I'm doing their job, that's how ridiculous it's gotten. So
(23:07):
we're looking into both the DA in Arlington, Virginia there
or some of the crazy things going on there letting
these illegal micros who've done crimes, letting them back out
on the street instead of honoring the detainer. And the
same with this Krasner guy in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
What did you think about the fraud story the Daily
Wire came out with rooted in Ohio. Obviously we've seen
a lot of fraud stories. Minnesota was first up, a
lot in California. But I think the fact that a
state like Ohio, which as you mentioned, is a red
state that has gone for President Trump by substantial amounts,
the fact that Ohio could have a lot of fraud
(23:44):
is a sign of just how systemic and epidemic like this.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Entire fraud world is. When it comes to healthcare.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, exactly. And you know the second I think the
second largest Somali population in the countries in the Clumpsalow area.
So you had sort of the same kind of thing
that was going on in Minneapolis happening there and now
in Ohio was different because you know, you got you
got Republicans, but also at the local level where you'd
need to prosecute. Uh. Of course Franklin County and the
(24:13):
City Columbus are Democrats. So I want to look into
this more. But yeah, this is as serious as it gets,
and it looks like it could be every bit as
bad as as what was going on up and uh
up in Minneapolis. So I expect our Oversight Committee to
do some uh under Chair Macomber to do some work
on this area as well and find out what we
can about all this Medicaid fraw that was. But we
knew this was the Medicaid. You knew it was the case.
(24:35):
Elon with dots understood this. But the left always all
healthcare health care. But when it's fraud, what you're doing
is if you can, if you can stop that, you're
actually going to help the people who truly qualify and
who are in need of uh of the Medicaid dollars.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
You know, interestingly, Uh, there's many different things going on.
But I'm sure you saw Arkansas cut their men's and
women's tennis per I think you and I were texting
about it. College sports are just under siege. The budgets
are falling apart. I talked about it on my FS
one show that's going to be up a little bit
later today. You've been fighting on this, among many other things.
(25:14):
What's the latest there, Well, we think we're going.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
To get the Score Act on the floor sometime later
this month. That's talking with leaders Kalise. That's the goal.
I feel like we've got to get to use the
sports and them. We've got to get a ball in play.
You got to get some build passed on one of
the brands, you know, the House of the Senate, get
something where Okay, now we're going to negotiate, work with
the Senate and see if we can get something to
President Trump's desk that will help the situation. But yeah,
(25:39):
when you see that, it's just so Smith. I don't
know this for sure, but my guess is Macintosh, the
idiot Wisconsin where I went to school, you know, he
left and he went to the Big Ten conference, and
maybe he's saying, like, this is such a mess. I
want to go to one of the conferences where they
seem to be doing. Okay. I don't know that was
his reasoning, but you start to see all these things
Arkansas dropping men's and women's tennis, and you know, just
(26:00):
is I hate to see it because you know that's
that's where our Olympic movement comes from, these college athletes,
and it's just it's just frustrating. So hopefully we'll get that,
get that pass, and get moving. Congress, Jim Jordan, how
is the one hundred and ninety five mile an hour serve? Man? Fuck?
You were oh last Friday. I was listening to you
(26:20):
and you're into your the animal farm stuff was great,
But then I heard you talking about like cuddling with
Carrie under the comfort or something like that. What is fuck?
The guy can serve at one hundred ninety miles an hour?
Just talking? I was just laughing, but I heard you
say that. I don't know if you're promoting something or not,
but we were listening to you. Guys.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Hey hey, hey, hey, hey, I'm a capitos. We're selling blankets.
Maybe we have a blanket sponsor. Okay, so you're darn right.
I'm cuddling with my life.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Friday, Congressman, I had no idea buck Went's so.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Soft on us.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Let me let me, let me tell you when a guy,
when a guy can hit one hundred and ten mile
an hour, serve, if he wants to talk about his
fluffy slippers, he's allowed.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I figured you were going to say, that's what I say.
And then also I appreciated, Uh, we were driving. I
happened to catch you on yet on Monday too. We're
in Indiana driving Monday, helping a colleague in U. But
the year analysis of anti trust and Spirit Airlines was
I think right on Tart, right on Tart.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
It's super really strating what happened there. We were sad
that Elizabeth Warren went on the war path like she did.
It was really disappointing because.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Yeah, and Burgess his his because it would have been
a fifth airline with like now like you know, competing
with the big guys. That's right, all is not not helpful.
And anyway, I just I appreciate what you said there too.
Could we deal with this any trust issue? All the time.
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of talkbacks, But do we have any live callers in
the line right this moment?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
You have the qu do we got a bunch that
went awayh in on the California situation? And then we've
got a ton of talkbacks. You guys have been sending
us some amazing ones. We'll get to those in the
third hour. But Dennis in Campo, California, you say you
can see the border from your home.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Is the sewage problem?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
We were talking about this awful sewage problem in the
San Diego area. Has it gotten worse? How would you
assess it?
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Okay, yeah, it's gotten much worse, and our local TV
stations are focusing on it. But we're not getting any
help from Gildnor Newsom. We've sent delegations up. He says
it's a federal problem. The federal administrators have come and
looked at it. They've thrown a couple of dollars at
(29:47):
it to just DUC tape. What's going on over there,
and now they would have put a new tax on
the November ballot to make San Diego citizens pay for
repairs to the Tijuana water treatment plant.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Just a patch.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Now there's a million gallons a day going into the ocean.
On the TV show, they showed toilet paper. Yes, I know,
it's a family show. Turns floating down high chairs, toilet seats,
all kinds of trash, and you cannot get within one
(30:29):
hundred yards of it without wanting to vomit. It's really
terrible playing buck Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Tell you know.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
In my book Manufacturing Delusion, I actually have a chapter
where I start off talking about the border immigration, but
specifically standing with border patrol at that border fence. Before
Trump came in and reinforced it, the fence was like
a five foot tall, kind of rusted out, rickety thing
you could just walk through or jump over. But you
(30:56):
look on the American side of the border and it's
clean and quiet and orderly for the most part, and
you just look across onto the Tijuana side of the
border and it is an absolute third world mess. Yeah,
we have to ask the same geography, same piece of land,
Why is this like the difference between North and South Korea, Like,
(31:17):
why is one side of this nice and the other
side of it is very not nice?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I guess it's also unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I presume that the ocean streams in that particular area
tend to move north right, So that's my presumption. If
we have a Tijuana situation where Mexican trash is shutting
down American beaches, I just feel like it.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Should be a bigger story.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
But I think it's also emblematic of California's inability to
solve things. You can't keep the beaches open, you can't
let people rebuild in a spectacularly naturally beautiful area of
Los Angeles, like the Palisades that was utterly destroyed. And
Christy and Utah grew up on the West coast. Christy,
(32:01):
I don't know what your age is, but I imagine
that you've seen things get progressively worse as it's become
more and more of a one party state.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
Yeah, I did. Both My parents are from California. My
mom was raised in La my dad was raised in
the Bay Area. I grew up in Washington, Central Washington,
a town called Yakima, and we spent a ton of
time in La San Francisco and Seattle. I actually lived
in La myself for eight years and during COVID because
(32:31):
it got so scary, I moved back to Utah because
I came here to go to school. So I would
say the Seattle that I saw when I was growing
up is not the same that it is now. It
was one of the most beautiful cities on Earth, and
it wasn't called the Emerald City for nothing. La is
(32:52):
a city that's near and Newark close to my heart,
and I spent a ton of time in San Francisco,
and they're all just they're all exploding. It's just super
depressing to watch what these beautiful cities have become.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Thank you for the call, Christy, and I think this
is one of the things that's starting to unite a
lot of people, leave aside politics. When you are trying
to go to a playground and there's homeless people, there's needles,
there's filth. For lack of a better way to describe it,
I just wonder what's it gonna take for people to
(33:29):
say enough. You grew up in a city that finally
said enough. And Rudy Giuliani, followed by Bloomberg, came in
and really cleaned up New York City in a way
that has allowed it to thrive and flourish. And it's
like people just don't realize that their choices have consequences,
(33:50):
and so they're a member of a tribe and they
won't acknowledge that the tribes making awful choices. Yeah, people
don't want to admit that they've been wrong this whole
time either, That's another part of it.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
And also give up the.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Unearned virtue of supporting these policies, like, yeah, I'm a
nice person, so of course I think that homeless people
should be able to live intent encampments on the street,
as long as it's not where I live.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, which is really that not in my backyard.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Philosophy is unfortunately central to so many Democrats all over
the country. I don't want people to have to any
there's nothing that I want for other people that is
a bad thing, or rather it's nothing I want for
other people that you know myself, I would say, Eh,
you know, I'm not gonna go with that. It's like
you're either on principle or you're playing a game
Okay, let's get some good news. Buck our number two underway.
Let me hit you with a bunch of positivity. By
the way, President Trump speaking right now in the White
House live to military moms. We will see if he
takes questions, and certainly will update you if that curved. Okay,
(00:24):
So right off the top, the stock market is hitting
record highs a new as the S and P five
hundred in the Nasdaq, the Dow is close to a
record high, all reacting positively to potential peace in Iran.
We will see what different directions this may go before
(00:46):
all is said and done. But the price of oil
and gas down about seven bucks today to about ninety
five dollars a barrel. When the war started, gas was
sixty eight dollars a barrel, so this is significant to
bring it back down. We talked yesterday about the idea
that I threw out that some people liked and other
(01:07):
people thought was crazy, of the United States providing insurance
to several of the tankers that are currently sitting, not moving,
in the Strait of Hormuz. And we will continue to
update you on how that is going. But rest assured,
if you have four oh one k's April was one
(01:27):
of the best months we have seen for stocks in years.
Stock market skyrocketed, and last year in April, you'll remember
they said, oh, my goodness, President Trump's going to destroy
the economy. And the reality is that the S and
P five hundred is up twenty four hundred points roughly
(01:50):
since April of last year, which is a crazy increase
over forty percent just since then. So all of that
is underway on the economic front. Oil prices down and
stock market to record high, So that is positive.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Buck also positive there.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Is right now, I think a significant chance that certainly
many Southern states are going to be redrawing their congressional
district maps and that that is going to have a
potentially transformative impact on the House races coming up this fall.
And let me tell you about this, in particular, the
(02:35):
state of Tennessee. While we are on the air and
I was following it, I was trying to zoom in
to look at all the different districts. The state of
Tennessee while we are on the air, has released a
brand new map which would eliminate the so called Democrat
racially Jerry Mander seat in Memphis and would deliver the
(02:56):
entire state of Tennessee nine to zero from eight to
one for the Republican Party. Louisiana is redrafting and redrawing
the lines in its state. Alabama is doing the same.
South Carolina is as well, And so the impact here
can end up being pretty substantial when you combine it
(03:17):
with what went on down in Florida where DeSantis redrew
the maps and we talked about with the House Speaker
yesterday that new map.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Buck. Let me also tell you this, there is I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Being hitting a title waves of positivity. Oh my gosh,
everything's so good, Claire, I can't handle all the good things.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Keep it coming.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
There is I think a lot of nervousness in Virginia
about whether the map that they voted on to make
a ten to one advantage in Virginia is going to
be legal. And as we are speaking, the FBI has
rated the Senate pro Tem of Virginia, the Democrat who
(03:58):
is near the top of the Virginia State Senate. And
there are substantial allegations of wrongdoing there having to do
with a lot of different fraud. Now all of that,
I would also put this in the positive category. Last
night in Indiana we called these guys out. We had
(04:20):
Senator Banks on. We might need to have him on
again because he led the charge on this. He may
be listening right now as he's driving around in Indiana.
Senator Banks said, it's unacceptable what the Indiana Senate did.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
State Senate.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
And there are other many different of you listening to
us right now who are Republicans in Indiana that were
very frustrated by this too. Indiana, as you see raw
naked partisan politics from so many different blue states and
even purple states like Virginia where Democrats currently have control.
Indiana said we don't want to violate norms. We're not
(04:57):
going to redistrict the Senate. I think the House passed it.
The Senate there several of the Republican senators said no.
They basically got wiped out last night in the primary,
and many of these races buck were not remotely close.
Five of them have lost their seats. One of them is,
I am told, going to lose his seat. Before all
(05:19):
is said and done, we'll see six of them swept out.
And I think that a lot of people in Indiana
are waking up this morning and saying we're tired of
having sort of what I would say, Buck is the
country club Republican element that has been unwilling to actually
realize the fight that we're in.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
And so I just gave you a long litany.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I know there's a lot of negativity the news and
everything else, but sometimes all the positive gets snowed under.
There's a lot of really positive things happening right now.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
That was quite a list, I'd say, very very impressive.
Do you want me to bring us all down?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Now? Now?
Speaker 5 (05:58):
What do you have?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
What's the one that you've got.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
To Well, for one thing, this Iran negotiation, the framework
of a deal that's going to leave the nukes till later.
I told you guys, this is what was going to
happen the whole time, as they're basically going to settle
for the strait is opened and hostilities have ceased, and
we'll figure out the nuclear part later, which means that
nuclear part's never really going.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
To be figured out.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
That's what I think ends up happening with that, but
I could be wrong. And other than that, I would
like to see some mass deportations which have not really happened.
Not hearing a lot about that right now. That was
a major promise of twenty twenty four, and it feels
like that has been pushed little the wayside. I do
think the gas prices are gonna are going to start
(06:44):
to come down substantially. I agree with that, So I
don't have any I'm trying to think of what else
I could be really negative about. I'm looking for negativity
right now. We're all going to die.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
That is true. Sorry, We're all going to die. That
is a reality, but hopefully not hopefully not very soon.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Hopefully not from high gas prices. You know that tie
all these things together. But no, Look, I think that
last night was actually encouraging the result in Indiana's encouraging
for a lot of people who felt like Republicans. Here's
the problem. We've seen some of the worst Republican politicians.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
We get.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
By worst, I'll be specific here, I mean the ones
that are the quickest to betray important promises made to
the base that they made, perhaps even to get elected.
Some of the worst Republicans come from red states, very
red states, and there's a frustration I think for a
lot and that I'm talking about a lot of you
(07:41):
right now who go through this with you know, so
we vote and we get these Republicans in and they
don't do anything people vote for. They don't pay attention
to the primary. We get these rhinos. Okay, well there
was something of a capturing of the rhinos that are
last night and in Indiana. I know it's only a
(08:02):
state Senate issue, but it affects Congress. So that's why
it's a national issue because the redistricting it shows you
that there can be consequences for this Clay. I don't
think another red state legislature is gonna say we don't
want to do redistricting because that would be mean, which
is really the really the argument that Remember we were
(08:23):
in Indiana actually right around when this was going on,
when we were asking people, they were like, hold on
a second, why aren't they doing to the code?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It's not collegial and feels like it's a little bit
of spiking the football and the Democrats face it's.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Like, can we do that times a thousand? Why aren't
we doing that?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Look, I think what happened was Virginia ended those guys
political career. Trump was a big part of it, but
I think a lot of Indiana Republicans saw what the
nakedly partisan move of Virginia, and they said, you can't
just keep getting punched in the face and say, well,
(08:59):
that wasn't very nice.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Oh you just broke my nose. There's blood running down
my face.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I wish you hadn't done that, but oh well, you
violated protocols. I'm gonna remain non violent. That's tough to take,
right And so metaphorically speaking, we're getting punched in the
face time after time, and I think a lot of
people are fed up with it. I think Tennessee's fed
up with it. Tennessee just said, hey, we're going to
(09:24):
have a nine to zero state. We're going to make
ourselves redder than we've ever been before. And you know what,
the great thing about this is book the entire original
basis of federalism in this country was every state should
be a laboratory. And states that make good decisions are
going to get more people moving into them and are
(09:45):
going to have more economic success. And states that make
poor decisions are going to have fewer people moving there
and are going to have less economic success. And I
think we're getting a great experiment in federalism right now
because the states that are read are giving the people
more economic freedom lower taxes. You know what, that's leading
to better schools. We haven't talked about it. You've seen
(10:07):
the data coming out of Mississippi. Everybody has been kicking
Mississippi in the teeth for years. They make fun of Mississippi,
say Mississippi is not doing well. Mississippi is kicking everybody's
ass in school now, and even a New York Times
columnists came out and said, wait a minute, Black kids
in Mississippi now are out performing black kids in California.
(10:30):
This is kind of a big story because California has
spending way more money to educate kids, and yet black
kids in Mississippi are trouncing black kid performance in California. Again,
the federalism argument here. It's a great story, the Mississippi miracle.
We talked about it with Linda McMahon on this program.
You know what Mississippi said, let's just get back to
basic phonics.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
We have cut twenty two.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Nicholas Christoff, who's a whiny lib but he says something
that's correct.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Here.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Play it in our blue places where we have governance,
we have every bit as much of an affordability crisis,
in part because of a stranglehold of regulations. And you know,
we talk a good game about the importance of education,
and yet a black kid in Mississippi is two and
(11:19):
a half times as likely to be proficient in math
and reading by fourth grade as a black kid in California.
And so I mean, do we need to look a
little bit less at what the Trump administration is doing
to harm working class families and.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Look a little more in the mirror? Man?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Can I just say Their real answer, play is they
don't want to do that. They just want to say
Trump is awful. That's right, because the Democrat Party has
truly become a party of Trump arrangement syndrome because it's
so easy, because what are you going to say. What
are you going to say to Democrats in California who
vote for you when it's Hey, the black kids in Mississippi,
in their school system in Mississippi are doing great. And
(12:03):
are black kids here in California in the you know,
the pinnacle of blue state governance and wealth. I might add,
Mississippi is not a wealthy state. No, are way behind
the Mississippi kids. How do you explain that to the
base of the Democrat Party. It's a great story, It's
a great story.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I mean, and and Mississippi should be taken victory lapse
and everybody should be looking at Mississippi and saying, how.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Something you didn't expect to hear, How can.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
We educate our kids as well as Mississippi is. But
I mean again, I think this is just a function.
Governor Tate reeves the choices that they have made in
Mississippi have benefited everybody. And by the way, most of
those kids in Mississippi, the black kids, a lot of
their parents are voting Democrat, but they're getting the benefit
of Republican politics. And if I'm sitting around in California
(12:56):
right now, and I'm a black mom and dad, and
I'm paying high time axes, and I'm sending my kids
to California schools, and I hear that Mississippi schools are
dominating the performance that my kids are getting. I got
a lot of questions to ask. And it goes to
your point, Buck, if you actually have to provide results,
(13:16):
the results of Democrat policies make everything worse for everybody.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That's the reality.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, that's absolutely that is that is these summations, sir, Counselor.
We can the case rests I mean, but to.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Your point, it is interesting to think about when Trump's
gone in the Great Satan and they can't point to
him and everything else, what did Democrats actually stand for?
That's going to be something they really have to grapple with,
I think in twenty eight because a party that hates
Trump is not actually first of all, very good in
terms of policy, but also it doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Well, this is like, if you start to push some
of these left wing socialist types today on any of
these issues, if they'll even engage, which they usually won't,
you say, what exactly if you guys accomplished and yeah,
like you know the eight hour work day, and it's
like it wasn't like a hundred years ago. What have
you guys done lately? Other them just mess everything up,
all mess up.
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Hi, guys, thank you for taking my call. Clay and
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Speaker 7 (16:00):
Talking about mom, Donnie and socialists or democrats not understanding capitalism,
and I want to respectfully disagree. When they asked Willie
Sutton why he robs banks, he said because that's where
the money is. And democrats absolutely understand capitalism. But as
(16:24):
Margaret Thatcher once said, so the problem with socialism is
you always run out of other people's money.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
And thank you, thank you for calling in, Donn. It
is a great quote I think to be just to
clarify a little bit there, appreciate your call, Thank you
for listening. We're saying that they don't understand how business functions.
We understand that they understand that capitalism creates a lot
of money. They just their thieves. I believe our friend
(16:52):
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you understand, they just want to take your stuff like
they have the thief They have the thief mindset, And
that is true. They just want to take your stuff.
They want to come up with some rationale to take
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or someone else.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
And then the math here does ultimately matter, because that's
why I'm focused on people who it's not a surprise.
The more money you make, the more taxes you pay. Unfortunately,
because of federal income taxes, all of us are required
to pay a lot. If you're in the top fifty
percent of earners, you pay a lot of federal income tax.
(17:29):
Bottom fifty percent pays nothing. In fact, many of them
actually get our money given to them. That's a whole
nother story, all right. But on the actual tax for
local jurisdictions, when you leave there aren't that many people
when you actually look at the raw numbers, who make
massive amounts of money that are funding New York City,
LA Chicago. Driving them out is destroying your fabric of
(17:53):
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Speaker 3 (18:44):
Often because of his run for president, he's got a
lot of money, which he's did some self funding of
his campaign already. Based on the campaign disclosures, how are
you feeling about that governor's race. Is that also really
just he has to stay the course. Trump will show
up and we'll get it done.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I think so. In the Vik's good onness stump. I mean,
he's out there talking about how how I wants to
move to get rid of the income tax, which I
think is great. He's talking about school choice, He's talking
about things I think are good, important issues for families
in this state. And he's running against Amy Acton, who
is as as you guys know, has been given the
name of the Fauci of Ohio because she was the
health director for former governor or as soon to be
(19:24):
former governor to Wine during the whole COVID stuff, and
she was almost as bad as Fauci. I mean, I
remember see wanted to close golf courses for goodness sake,
So you know what what what's the golfing is is
the definition of social diss She was one to talk
close golf especial.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I'm off on my own a lot.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah exactly. Sola's like, uh, I feel good about that
race too. And then we have the ninth district up
in the Toledo area of Arsity. Captain has been in
Congress you know, forever, and uh, we got a chance,
I think, to win that race as well. So you know,
I feel pretty good in this redistruating effort that's going
to now happen in the South and lie of the
Supreme Court decision, I think that that's going to help us,
(20:05):
and so I think we can sort of devide the
historical trend and maintain the House.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
In the Senate, Uh, the Senate obviously, for people out
there who aren't paying attention, if Ohio holds on on
the Republican side, there's basically no math that allows uh,
the Democrats to take control of the Senate. I think
you certainly see the map on both the House and
the Senate side, but that for people who may not
be paying attention, the road to a majority for Democrats
(20:33):
has to run through Ohio.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, you're exactly right. I mean, you know, if we
if we can't you know, keep North Carolina, if we
if we don't take Georgia, if we would even lose Maine,
and you know, if we can't, if we don't pick
up Michigan, which I think we don't. I don't think
that's necessarily what the outcome is going to be. You're
exactly right, Clay that that for the Democrats to get there,
they got to get our state. And I think that's
(20:55):
why you'll see. You know, I think that the Democratic
Senatorial Campaign Committee already reserve like seventy nine dollars for
TV ads for shared brown here in Ohio. So it's
going to be much like the last go around where
Senator Marino and Senator McCormick are are good senators from
Ohio Pennsylvania. Those were like the most expensive races ever.
(21:16):
I expect Ohio to be just like that.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Speaking of Congress and Jim Jordan of Ohio, I think
you've got to hearing coming up right on legal dealing
with some illegal immigration stuff, Sanctuary city policies. We talk
about that issue that in the economy, I think are
the two most common things for us to talk about overall.
Here on the show, there was huge focus on it,
and you're one of the Trump presidency. I think that
(21:40):
we got the Iran conflict, got some other things that
have been getting a lot of attention recently. Are these
deportations happening? Is the administration still focused on this? It
feels like there's been a little bit of a let off,
let off the gas pedal. Maybe after Minneapolis and those
lunatics confronting ICE people ISA agents.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
No, I think there's still the folkus and certainly we
have the focus. We've passed the Sanctuary Jurisdiction Shutdown Act
out of our committee a few weeks back. We want
that to be on the House floor here in the
coming weeks and hopefully even get to the Senate and
pass and become law. But I think it's important to
understand what the Democrats have been doing. I mean, think
about their plan. First, it was four years of just
wide open border ten man migrants come into the country.
(22:22):
Then they create sanctuary jurisdictions which makes it difficult to
remove those migrants when they commit another crime. And then
they say, oh, we're not going to fund the guys
who do the removing. We're not going to fund ICE.
I mean that's their plan. And now we have this
guy and we just wrote this guy letter to get
information from this Krasner DA in Philadelphia, one of these
left wing das. He's now threatening two arrest ICE agents.
(22:44):
So first, let in ten million, then make it tough
to apprehend them and deport them if they commit another crime.
Then don't fund ice and now, oh, we're going to
go arrest you as if it was you know, it
wasn't enough that they they were by the left wing
agitators were spitting on them and yelling at him, swearing
at them and threatening them and docking them and tracking
them and all that stuff they did to them, whether
I'm doing their job, that's how ridiculous it's gotten. So
(23:07):
we're looking into both the DA in Arlington, Virginia there
or some of the crazy things going on there letting
these illegal micros who've done crimes, letting them back out
on the street instead of honoring the detainer. And the
same with this Krasner guy in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
What did you think about the fraud story the Daily
Wire came out with rooted in Ohio. Obviously we've seen
a lot of fraud stories. Minnesota was first up, a
lot in California. But I think the fact that a
state like Ohio, which as you mentioned, is a red
state that has gone for President Trump by substantial amounts,
the fact that Ohio could have a lot of fraud
(23:44):
is a sign of just how systemic and epidemic like this.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Entire fraud world is. When it comes to healthcare.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, exactly. And you know the second I think the
second largest Somali population in the countries in the Clumpsalow area.
So you had sort of the same kind of thing
that was going on in Minneapolis happening there and now
in Ohio was different because you know, you got you
got Republicans, but also at the local level where you'd
need to prosecute. Uh. Of course Franklin County and the
(24:13):
City Columbus are Democrats. So I want to look into
this more. But yeah, this is as serious as it gets,
and it looks like it could be every bit as
bad as as what was going on up and uh
up in Minneapolis. So I expect our Oversight Committee to
do some uh under Chair Macomber to do some work
on this area as well and find out what we
can about all this Medicaid fraw that was. But we
knew this was the Medicaid. You knew it was the case.
(24:35):
Elon with dots understood this. But the left always all
healthcare health care. But when it's fraud, what you're doing
is if you can, if you can stop that, you're
actually going to help the people who truly qualify and
who are in need of uh of the Medicaid dollars.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
You know, interestingly, Uh, there's many different things going on.
But I'm sure you saw Arkansas cut their men's and
women's tennis per I think you and I were texting
about it. College sports are just under siege. The budgets
are falling apart. I talked about it on my FS
one show that's going to be up a little bit
later today. You've been fighting on this, among many other things.
(25:14):
What's the latest there, Well, we think we're going.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
To get the Score Act on the floor sometime later
this month. That's talking with leaders Kalise. That's the goal.
I feel like we've got to get to use the
sports and them. We've got to get a ball in play.
You got to get some build passed on one of
the brands, you know, the House of the Senate, get
something where Okay, now we're going to negotiate, work with
the Senate and see if we can get something to
President Trump's desk that will help the situation. But yeah,
(25:39):
when you see that, it's just so Smith. I don't
know this for sure, but my guess is Macintosh, the
idiot Wisconsin where I went to school, you know, he
left and he went to the Big Ten conference, and
maybe he's saying, like, this is such a mess. I
want to go to one of the conferences where they
seem to be doing. Okay. I don't know that was
his reasoning, but you start to see all these things
Arkansas dropping men's and women's tennis, and you know, just
(26:00):
is I hate to see it because you know that's
that's where our Olympic movement comes from, these college athletes,
and it's just it's just frustrating. So hopefully we'll get that,
get that pass, and get moving. Congress, Jim Jordan, how
is the one hundred and ninety five mile an hour serve? Man? Fuck?
You were oh last Friday. I was listening to you
(26:20):
and you're into your the animal farm stuff was great,
But then I heard you talking about like cuddling with
Carrie under the comfort or something like that. What is fuck?
The guy can serve at one hundred ninety miles an hour?
Just talking? I was just laughing, but I heard you
say that. I don't know if you're promoting something or not,
but we were listening to you. Guys.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Hey hey, hey, hey, hey, I'm a capitos. We're selling blankets.
Maybe we have a blanket sponsor. Okay, so you're darn right.
I'm cuddling with my life.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Friday, Congressman, I had no idea buck Went's so.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Soft on us.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Let me let me, let me tell you when a guy,
when a guy can hit one hundred and ten mile
an hour, serve, if he wants to talk about his
fluffy slippers, he's allowed.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I figured you were going to say, that's what I say.
And then also I appreciated, Uh, we were driving. I
happened to catch you on yet on Monday too. We're
in Indiana driving Monday, helping a colleague in U. But
the year analysis of anti trust and Spirit Airlines was
I think right on Tart, right on Tart.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
It's super really strating what happened there. We were sad
that Elizabeth Warren went on the war path like she did.
It was really disappointing because.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Yeah, and Burgess his his because it would have been
a fifth airline with like now like you know, competing
with the big guys. That's right, all is not not helpful.
And anyway, I just I appreciate what you said there too.
Could we deal with this any trust issue? All the time.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
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of talkbacks, But do we have any live callers in
the line right this moment?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
You have the qu do we got a bunch that
went awayh in on the California situation? And then we've
got a ton of talkbacks. You guys have been sending
us some amazing ones. We'll get to those in the
third hour. But Dennis in Campo, California, you say you
can see the border from your home.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Is the sewage problem?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
We were talking about this awful sewage problem in the
San Diego area. Has it gotten worse? How would you
assess it?
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Okay, yeah, it's gotten much worse, and our local TV
stations are focusing on it. But we're not getting any
help from Gildnor Newsom. We've sent delegations up. He says
it's a federal problem. The federal administrators have come and
looked at it. They've thrown a couple of dollars at
(29:47):
it to just DUC tape. What's going on over there,
and now they would have put a new tax on
the November ballot to make San Diego citizens pay for
repairs to the Tijuana water treatment plant.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Just a patch.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Now there's a million gallons a day going into the ocean.
On the TV show, they showed toilet paper. Yes, I know,
it's a family show. Turns floating down high chairs, toilet seats,
all kinds of trash, and you cannot get within one
(30:29):
hundred yards of it without wanting to vomit. It's really
terrible playing buck Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Tell you know.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
In my book Manufacturing Delusion, I actually have a chapter
where I start off talking about the border immigration, but
specifically standing with border patrol at that border fence. Before
Trump came in and reinforced it, the fence was like
a five foot tall, kind of rusted out, rickety thing
you could just walk through or jump over. But you
(30:56):
look on the American side of the border and it's
clean and quiet and orderly for the most part, and
you just look across onto the Tijuana side of the
border and it is an absolute third world mess. Yeah,
we have to ask the same geography, same piece of land,
Why is this like the difference between North and South Korea, Like,
(31:17):
why is one side of this nice and the other
side of it is very not nice?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I guess it's also unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I presume that the ocean streams in that particular area
tend to move north right, So that's my presumption. If
we have a Tijuana situation where Mexican trash is shutting
down American beaches, I just feel like it.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Should be a bigger story.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
But I think it's also emblematic of California's inability to
solve things. You can't keep the beaches open, you can't
let people rebuild in a spectacularly naturally beautiful area of
Los Angeles, like the Palisades that was utterly destroyed. And
Christy and Utah grew up on the West coast. Christy,
(32:01):
I don't know what your age is, but I imagine
that you've seen things get progressively worse as it's become
more and more of a one party state.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
Yeah, I did. Both My parents are from California. My
mom was raised in La my dad was raised in
the Bay Area. I grew up in Washington, Central Washington,
a town called Yakima, and we spent a ton of
time in La San Francisco and Seattle. I actually lived
in La myself for eight years and during COVID because
(32:31):
it got so scary, I moved back to Utah because
I came here to go to school. So I would
say the Seattle that I saw when I was growing
up is not the same that it is now. It
was one of the most beautiful cities on Earth, and
it wasn't called the Emerald City for nothing. La is
(32:52):
a city that's near and Newark close to my heart,
and I spent a ton of time in San Francisco,
and they're all just they're all exploding. It's just super
depressing to watch what these beautiful cities have become.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Thank you for the call, Christy, and I think this
is one of the things that's starting to unite a
lot of people, leave aside politics. When you are trying
to go to a playground and there's homeless people, there's needles,
there's filth. For lack of a better way to describe it,
I just wonder what's it gonna take for people to
(33:29):
say enough. You grew up in a city that finally
said enough. And Rudy Giuliani, followed by Bloomberg, came in
and really cleaned up New York City in a way
that has allowed it to thrive and flourish. And it's
like people just don't realize that their choices have consequences,
(33:50):
and so they're a member of a tribe and they
won't acknowledge that the tribes making awful choices. Yeah, people
don't want to admit that they've been wrong this whole
time either, That's another part of it.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
And also give up the.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Unearned virtue of supporting these policies, like, yeah, I'm a
nice person, so of course I think that homeless people
should be able to live intent encampments on the street,
as long as it's not where I live.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, which is really that not in my backyard.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Philosophy is unfortunately central to so many Democrats all over
the country. I don't want people to have to any
there's nothing that I want for other people that is
a bad thing, or rather it's nothing I want for
other people that you know myself, I would say, Eh,
you know, I'm not gonna go with that. It's like
you're either on principle or you're playing a game
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