April 8, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show expands the Wednesday broadcast beyond the immediate Iran ceasefire news and dives deeply into the future of modern warfare, drone technology, U.S. national security, and high-stakes global diplomacy. The hour opens with discussion of a New York Post report describing advanced CIA technology allegedly used to locate and rescue a downed American airman in Iran, sparking a broader conversation about how artificial intelligence, quantum-style sensing tools, and cutting-edge surveillance are rapidly transforming intelligence operations. This leads Clay and Buck into an extended analysis of weaponized drones, autonomous systems, and AI-driven targeting, with both hosts warning that warfare has entered a new era where non-state actors, cartels, and terrorists can deploy precision drone attacks that once required nation-state resources. They argue this technology poses a real threat not only on battlefields like Ukraine and the Middle East but eventually to ordinary civilians, as cheap drones become capable of targeted assassinations, infrastructure attacks, and mass disruption.
The discussion then shifts back to Iran and the Strait of Hormuz, responding to listener questions about how Iran can still threaten shipping despite having much of its military destroyed. Clay and Buck explain that it takes very little remaining capability—missiles, small boats, shore-based launchers, or drones—to cripple global oil traffic, because tanker operators will not risk multimillion-dollar vessels or crew lives. They emphasize that Iran’s leverage comes from increasing risk rather than controlling territory, while the United States technically retains the ability to fully shut down Iranian oil exports if it chooses. This segment reinforces key SEO themes including Middle East geopolitics, global energy markets, oil prices, U.S. military power, and the Iran nuclear threat, with Buck maintaining skepticism that Iran will ultimately concede anything meaningful during negotiations despite temporary ceasefires.
A major highlight of Hour 2 is an extended interview with Florida Senator Rick Scott, who strongly backs President Donald Trump’s hardline Iran policy and praises the administration’s military strikes and diplomatic pressure. Scott outlines what he believes victory over Iran looks like: complete elimination of Iran’s nuclear weapons capability, ballistic missiles, and enriched uranium, alongside either total economic collapse of the regime or a leadership change. The interview also covers U.S. Senate elections, Republican chances in battleground states, Democratic impeachment threats, judicial confirmations, the filibuster, and broader ideological divisions between Republicans and Democrats. Scott additionally addresses foreign policy in Cuba and Venezuela, calling for aggressive action against communist regimes and expressing optimism that Trump’s policies could trigger regime change. The hour closes with breaking updates from the White House briefing indicating that Vice President JD Vance, along with senior U.S. negotiators, is traveling to Pakistan for face-to-face ceasefire talks with Iran, while markets remain strong and oil prices stay down. Hour 2 reinforces the show’s core themes of national security, American strength, military technology, conservative politics, and global economic stability.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second hour, Clay end Buck kicks off right now, and
something Clay I thought was really interesting this New York
Post report on you see this, The CIA used a
futuristic new tool called a ghost murmur to find and
rescue the second American airman who was shot down in
Southern Iran.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
According to the New York Post.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Here, secret technology uses long range quantum magnetometry to find
the electromagnetic fingerprint of a human heartbeat and pairs the
data with artificial intelligence software to isolate the signature from
background noise. Again, according to the New York Post here,
(00:42):
so by the Eddie was guy, I'm I wasn't even
good at high school geometry, so like this, you know,
this is not this is not what. I had nothing
to do with any of this kind of stuff in
the military industrial complex.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
With the agency.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
But just even reading that, and they're saying that Director
rat Cliff of the Agency and President Trump alluded to
it in the White House briefing on this, so they,
you know, they're feeling pretty confident in they're reporting. Clay,
I mean, that's just reading that, it's like, wow, yeah,
I've never heard of it. Obviously if it's never been
used before, I've never heard of this before. I have
no idea so here.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I was optimistic in the first hour about straight up
horror moves everything else, this is something I'm actually pessimistic about.
If you want me to go negative on this. I
spend a lot of time thinking about what's.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
What the world is going.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
To be like, and it may happen sooner than we
even think when individual bad actors have access to drones
that can be can be weaponized and are able to
just send drones to blow things up. In other words,
like a lot of this audience has guns to protect
(01:54):
our homes, right, have weaponry fences, all these different things
to try to make us safer inside of our homes.
Some people even have armed security that is patrolling homes.
All these different things. Have you set around and thought
about as we look at what's happening with Ukraine, where
basically Ukraine Russia is a drone war. We'll take some
(02:17):
calls on this, but one issue on the straight of
horror Moves is one weaponized drone, which can be deployed
by one individual, can blow up an entire tanker ship.
At some point in time, bad guys are going to
get access to this drone technology, and I fear they're
just going to be able to bomb random people's houses.
(02:39):
In other words, right now, your concerns an armed robber
might show up at your house with a gun, and
you're trying to think about ways to defend yourself. What
happens at two am when somebody just loads up a
drone with a bomb and just flies it at your
house because they don't like you. This is one of
the things that I worry about because I think the
technology is a moving so rapidly buck that it's inevitable
(03:02):
that individual bad actors are going to get access to
these weaponized drones and start to use them with impunity.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
That's that that is scary to me.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, the cartels have been doing this for some time.
They've used drones, the Mexican drug cartels. They've used drones
for not just surveillance, but even to drop like grenades,
drop explosives on targets, enemies, law enforcement whomever. We are
not far from from a well. The technology already exists.
It's just a question of how long before you start
(03:32):
to see Because these drones are also going to get
to the point where they have autonomous they have an
autonomous flying and movement capability, so you could essentially set
the target and then it just goes and finds the person.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
That's where you and I in the White House saw
a drone and we've talked about this because they declassified it,
but saw a drone attack where there's a car full
of four people and is now the technology is so
specific on the drone that they can fly in kill
one person in the car and then the other three
people you can see on the video just fleeing. That's
(04:11):
how they know what seat the guys in. They're not
taking out the car, they're taking out the guy in
a particular seat inside of it.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It's a variant of the hell Fire missile. It's called
the Flying GINSU. The AGM one one four R nine
X a non explosive missile projectile that essentially has six
sword like blades swords because they are big and long
(04:40):
sword like blades that come out and you know, it's messy,
but no, in a sense it's less messy because no
collateral damage. But you wouldn't want to get hit by
one of these things, that is for sure. But yes,
the technology that is being deployed here is very real,
but Anyway, that New York Post Storyage thought was particularly
interesting because there's people ask me.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I mean, now I've been out.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I've been out of the uh uh, the covert world
for fifteen years now, it'll be fifteen years. I've been
doing media this June. So they got all kinds of
new wiz bangs. I've never heard of some of this. Obviously,
this No one to my knowledge who isn't currently active
and working on this technology and the government have had
any idea about this because it's brand new. But all
(05:23):
things the Maduro Yeah, yeah, the Maduro thing which they
admitted to, which was essentially a sonic weapon, is to
disable all of people. People ask me to like, oh, man,
do you know about this? I was like, no, this
is crazy. This is new stuff. Never heard about it before.
But technology on the battlefield, guys, it's going to advance
so rapidly and it's going to change so much, and uh,
(05:47):
we are You're already seeing some of this stuff in
the early phase that is going to become ubiquitous.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
And you know, this is.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Where we're entering a whole new era of warfare that
will be very different. I think we're at the I
can put it this way, Clay, I think we're about
to enter an era of warfare with the biggest transformation
in how battles are fought since the early days of gunpowder.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I think we're entering. That's a bold prediction.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Well, because we're gonna have uh we already do it
something were you could argue we're already kind of there.
You're going to have on ground, air, and sea, non
human combatants making real time decisions not just on where
they go, but on who and what they target, using
artificial technology and satellite based communication so that they can't
(06:43):
be jammed or interfered with. I mean, this is you're
talking about, my friend, We're talking about robot armies.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Here.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
We're on the edge of robot army stuff in a
way that you know, you say, okay, we don't have
humanoid robots yet. Have you guys seen some of the
stuff that is coming out from even you know, Elon's companies.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Now, he's not making terminator the tea what is it?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
The T eight hundred was that the original The T
one thousand was the was the alloy metal thing, right,
But the T eight hundred I think was the original terminative.
He's not making that he's making nice little robots that
are gonna fold your laundry. But if a robot can
fold your laundry and it can, you know, make decisions,
it can also shoot a gun.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And basically, I know we haven't talked about the Ukraine
situation in some time, but effectively Ukraine seems seems to
have created enough drones and Russia certainly has got them too,
that we have reached some form of equilibrium. Now we're
coming out of winter, so the roads are getting better
(07:50):
and we'll see what happens in the spring summer. But
basically the lines are not moving very much because if
you leave, much like back in the olden days for
those of you who are remember and have studied at
all World War One, like you put your head above
a trench and you were done for, and so it
became almost impossible to move in many ways, that's kind
of what's happened with Dernes now, where if humans come
(08:13):
out in any way and try to advance, the drones
are coming. It's not other humans taking them out. But
we got a lot of talk back. So we'll start
with this one because you wanted to hit this a
while back, and it is probably the number one question
we are getting, and it is it has to do
with what we were just talking about, which is the
larger drone issues. Many of you have been asking a
(08:33):
version of this question, which is what Tom in Oklahoma
City cut f is asking.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
If we destroyed their military, how is if they're still.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Able to try to shut down the straight or remove
out to understand how that's working.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Tom, it's a very good question. We have essentially annihilated
their navy. Like their navy, they've got very little left.
It's also it's hard to hide big boats, right, so
they've got very little left. They've got very little air defense,
although not none as we've seen. I mentioned the man pads,
and I think there were actually SAM sites that people
(09:13):
are I have to go back and read the reporting
on it. I think it was a combination of manpad
and so SAM site is a surface to air missile,
manpad is the shoulder fired rocket, So that they still
have those, and they still have an over half million
person standing army. We haven't killed a half a million
Iranian soldiers, thank god, because that would be that's a
(09:34):
lot of people to kill. We haven't done that. So
they have Their ground force is very much intact, which
is what we would have to contend with even if
we were going to land on the shore of the
of the the Iranian. By the way, all this stuff,
it is helpful to pull up a map for some
of the stuff so you can see, you know, you
got you got the straight up Ormus, and you got
you know, the Saudis are on one side of this
(09:56):
body of water, the Iranians, then you got the Iraqis,
the Kuwaitis. I mean, and this is for the oil world,
about a strategic piece of real estate or a piece
of waterway as you could possibly find. But so Clay,
the answer to our friend's question here is we've really
destroyed their air force, surface to air, their ballistic missiles,
(10:16):
their navy. They got a lot of guys with kalashnikovs
and RPGs and stuff running around still, so think about
that for an invasion. Why we don't want to do that?
And it doesn't take much for whatever they've got to
fire from shore and blow up a tanker.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
It's easy to do even if you're decimated militarily, which
is why the question that I think we were having
in the first hour is to what extent does the
Iranian leadership have the ability to curtail individual actors from
making choices inside of Iran. And this was Pete Hegseth
and his press conference this morning saying, hey, there's still
(10:53):
some missiles and drones being shot off, and I think
Iran's response is, well, we don't have great communication infrastructure
or so we're having difficulty reaching everybody inside of the
Iranian defense and saying hey, we've got a ceasefire going
on right now. It's also possible, and this is where
I think it becomes really messy. It's also possible, Buck
(11:14):
that we have several different factions competing for power inside
of Iran and there isn't any real leader that has
the ability to control the actions inside of the country.
But the easy answer I think for the for the
caller there or the talkbacker is it takes very little
to blow up in a oil tanker.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And if you.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Are an owner your private industry and you own an
oil tanker, what do you think an oil tankers worth
on the market? Eighty million dollars, ninety million dollars, I
mean full of oil, yeah, I got to think of
but I mean just the physical structure of them, Like
you know you're running constantly oil on the oil tanker.
But if you are the business, then let's just say
it's one hundred million dollar asset. It turns into risk analysis, right,
(12:02):
what are the percentage chances that something could happen to
your ship? And as we talked about a lot on
this program, the one thing you don't want to be
transporting if suddenly you have flame or if you have
an explosion and missiles. You know, if mistles are flying
at you and you're on a virtual sea of oil,
that's rough. It's a rough place to be. Podcast listener
(12:22):
Clint E from North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Hit it, Clay, You're going to have to take that
microphone away from a buck.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
He's gonna have my four to.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
One case two and a half percent down instead of
two and a half percent of by the end of
the day.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Very funny, fair fair point, fair point. I'm I'm not
I'm not sort of bullish.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Aw well, No, I think Trump's gonna want I think
this is gonna end up in negotiations. I just think
that when people are assessing the success of this longer term,
it's going to be more of a challenge. We'll see,
we'll see, but I don't think we're going to have
a continuous blow them up, come back to the table,
blow them up, come back to the table. You're gonna
just like I said, give it to we we might
(13:00):
blow up some stuff, and then there'll be an agreement
to talk again, and this agreement will go for a
month or two.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That's that's what I see happen.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
We're gonna keep talking and talking, and the Iranians will
not concede on the key points. That's where I think
this is all heading. Tom from Oklahoma City. Oh, I'm sorry,
we already did that one.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
H h.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Kenneth from Melbourne, Florida.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Clay, you're twisting yourself in knots trying to make your point.
Bottom line, Buck is right. Look, we asked them to
open the straits and let the ships through. That obviously
means we cannot open it. They control it.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Clay, your your floor, My floor is Look at the
I mean like the floor is yours? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, yeah,
I'm taking the floor. Look at the map. We control
once they come out of the Strait of Horror moves
and we have allowed Iranian oil and gas because we
want Iranian oil and gas on the marketplace. So if
(14:01):
like this whole idea of control, if we want to stop,
as the United States, all ships from being able to
come out of the straight of hor Moves, including Iran,
we can do that. Iran is saying they control the
straight of hor moves because they are crazy enough to
just blow ships up. If we wanted to blow ships up,
(14:22):
we could quote control the straight of war moves. We
don't want to do that. We want global commerce to
be able to exist. So it's control is just they're
crazy enough to blow up ships and we're not willing
to do so. So again, if we just said, hey, Iran,
you're not going to be able to sell your oil
and gas, my argument is the ultimate trump card, which
(14:43):
is obviously well played in this context, is that we
can just say, hey, straight of wour Moves is closed,
like we actually have the ability to close it. What
Iran has the ability to do is levy enough risk
such that rational business owners say, I'm not going to
risk my one hundred million let's just say it's one
hundred million dollar boat to try to get this oil
(15:03):
and gas out, to say nothing of the potential loss
of lives. And by the way, a lot of crewmen
may be sitting back there saying, you know, Buck, I'd
prefer that we don't risk whether or not we're gonna
get blown up. Going through the strait of horror moves too.
These are rational human actors, and Iran is playing on
their rational human fear.
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Speaker 2 (16:47):
We are rolling on that.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
We will give you an update if anything more comes
from it. Mentioning this we mentioned it a little bit ago.
We'll take some of your calls. We got a ton
of talkbacks. Big story in the New York Times. We
shared it about the decision to go to war with
Iran and how it was made. I thought the first
of all is actually really well written. We said earlier
(17:11):
that it reads with a sense of truth to it,
very specific detailed.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
We can talk about this maybe a little bit when
we come back. JD.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Van's very clear in the article Buck that he did
not want to do this and that he advised the
president against striking Iran. I'm surprised that's not getting more
attention right now in the media because I thought it
was super interesting. Everybody else did not want to give
(17:39):
as aggressive of opinions. It sounded like they were just
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Speaker 1 (18:54):
We are joined by Florida Senator Rick Scott with us
now the state of Florida, and Senator, not only do
you have a full time do you hear that in
New York state tax authorities? A full time Florida resident
here with me. You've got a part time Florida resident
with Clay. So a lot of love for the Sunshine State.
Thank you for being here with us. Let's first get
(19:17):
into this because the big news of the day is
the cease fire.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
You come from it.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I mean, not only do you have the Senate to
draw upon for all of this, of course, but you
come from a business background, You've done plenty of negotiating yourself.
How do you feel about this cease fire and what
do you think comes next?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Well, first off, you have to really admire Donald Trump
the guy. The guy is the deal doer, and he
you know, he should listen to what he tells you.
I mean, he clearly wants to get rid of the
newcrow weapons, which I'm very appreciative because I love my family.
I don't want them killed by news the weapons. And
I think every family should be thinking that way in America.
And thank god to this president cares about us and
(19:57):
wants to save our lives and what hell with Obama
doing and and Biden doing so?
Speaker 6 (20:03):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
And he also wants to get rid of the ballistic
missiles and so I think I think it's great. I
hope Iran smart. Uh, and they keep it going. The
Democrats are completely insane. I mean, they they say, oh,
we got it. You know, they want to impeach Trump
because you know, he he's holding I ran accountable.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
So thinkbout if these.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Same Democrats were in office, Sherman wouldn't have you know,
gone through the South because by then you know, Lincoln
would be impeached, and Roosevelt sure he wouldn't destroy the
infrastructure in Germany because he had been impeached, and Truman
wouldn't have dropped bomb because they had already been impeached.
So these I mean, these Democrats are defending I told
a Moss, I mean they're in my you know, close
(20:45):
to Florida. They're they're down into Cuba defending a horrible regime.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
They're defending the Ranian regime.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
That killed what thirty some thousand people just in January.
So it's, uh, but Trump's doing the right thing. I'm
very optimistic that this is going to last. It's but
if it doesn't, I mean I wouldn't play with Trump
if they if they don't do their part, don't live
up to their part of the mark, and you know,
all hell is going to break loose. You can if
(21:14):
you have you seen that chart of all the leadership
of ARAM that's been destroyed. So so I don't think
there's anybody for putting a call anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
We're talking to Florida Senator Rick Scott. You're up for
re election. If I'm not mistaken this November. You don't
know your opponent yet, but you're also high up in
overall Senate leadership. Let's talk about the big picture here.
I was just on Fox News talking about the situation
in Michigan. Mike Rodgers is going to be the nominee there.
(21:45):
New Hampshire also and Georgia are potential pickups. And then
you have battlegrounds coming in North Carolina, in Maine, Ohio, others.
What do you expect for the fall to look like
and how optimistic or pessimistic are you about the larger
state maps?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
I think I think Republican are going to do well
as long as we have something to run on. Trump's
given us a lot to run on. I mean, if
you look at what he's what he's done trying to bring, you.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Know, before their ran thing.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
But they'll come back down all prices down, the cost
of living down, supporter law enforcement, support of military.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
So Republicans.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Republicans are the party that we care about your job,
we care about your kids' education, we care about public safety.
And the Democrats are clearly the party that doesn't care
about jobs, doesn't care about your kids education, and doesn't
care about public safety. So that should be our message
if it does I think we're going to do well,
but we got to get our votes out. Susans Collins
has got a race in Maine, he says, has got
(22:45):
a race in Ohio, like Rogers got a race in Michigan,
while he's got a race in North Carolina. Soloman's got
a race in Alaska. So we only we've got to
pick up opportunity possibly in New Hampshire with the new
new pickup opportunity, you know, hopefully to beat us off
in Georgia's So we just got to raise our money,
have our message buster bucks every day. You want your
work every day to get your you know, to get
(23:08):
your votes out every every every day. So if we do,
I think we're gonna have a good fall.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Well, let's certainly hope.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
So because we all know, Senator you've probably just seen
this popping up in your news feed, they're already talking impeachment,
These democrats in the House, they're already talking crazy stuff.
And I do you think that I'm just gonna put
this out to you? Do you think that the president
is going to have to give preemptive pardon to some
members of his cabinet if just in case a Democrat
(23:35):
were to win because they're so hell bent on some
kind of payback. I worry the Democrats, psyche to you,
has been so damaged by Trump.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Go ahead, center, Yeah, I agree. I mean, I mean,
it's just Trump derangement syndrome. They don't they don't care
about this country. You saw it in the State of
the Union when Trump asks to stand up if you
think your first job is to protect Americans and rather
than illegal alien and not one Democrats up for that.
So the I don't think even betterments for that. Uh
(24:07):
so the so, I don't know what will happen, we
get we just the bottom line is we cannot lose.
We have got to We've got to do it. We've
got to keep the majority in the House and the Senate.
If if they get the House, and I assume they're
going to peach a lot of people and we're gonna
have to deal with it in the Senate. But Trump's
I mean, Trump's doing it. I mean, what's fascinating is
(24:30):
if you care about this country, you have to thank Trump.
You know, you might say, oh gosh, I wish he
I wish his rhetoric wasn't that, but guess what he
seares the hell out of people.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
I mean, look at what he's done. Look at look
we got.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
We have a chance for democracy. And in Venezuela with
with the majora out, it looks like.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
We've got a big opportunity.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
In Cuba, you look at look at what he's tried
to broke a peace around the world. If if we can,
if he can pull off what he's gonna pull off
and ran it, Chang completely changes them at least. And
guess what, Russia and China don't have an ally in
the Middle East anymore because I mean they you know,
it's all transactional and Ramdas is their friend, because they
all hate America.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
You represent a state that has a huge Venezuelan and
a huge Cuban population.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
You just mentioned both.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
President may Well have asked you, certainly a colleague of yours,
Marco Rubio, a Secretary of State who you know very well,
Let's go to Cuba. What to you should happen in Cuba?
What would you advise the president as a senator representing
the state with more expat Cubans than any in the country.
What should we do with Cuba? How should we handle it?
(25:40):
What should the future look like there?
Speaker 4 (25:42):
We First of all, we all have to realize dias
Canal is not the leader. The only leader is roal Castro.
Royal Castro needs to be indicted. And the first step
is I would indict roal Castro, and that I would
arrest in right, because he's actually the leader of Cuba.
Then else not the leader. Next, I would make sure
the regime has nothing. They have no dollars, they have
(26:06):
no petro, and they have nothing. Just in the last
two weeks, Democrats have gone down to Cuba to prop
up a regime that kills its own citizens, that puts
them in prison as young as sixteen. There's a sixteen
year old who's in prison, and they go down there
with a guy that is it lives in my faith.
It says that I should be killed. He goes on
(26:26):
a radio and says Rick Scott, you need to go
kill Rick Scott. So this is these are disgusting people
that don't care about people I like. I asked, why
didn't you go down and ask them, you know, talk
to the political prisoners what they see, ask them what
it's like. So, but I'm I'm hopeful if Trump keeps
doing what he's doing, I think the regime is going
to fall. I think the people of Cuba are going
(26:48):
to rise up. They've been they've been protesting, so I
think they will rise up and take over and pick
the government they want, not the government that that you
know they was lied to by the Dale.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Castro Speaking of Senator Rick Scott of Florida, Senator, how
are we doing with the judge This is something that
is always in the background of my mind because I
think it is one of those parts of an administration
that is super important but doesn't always get much attention
at headlines because it's an ongoing thing. Although the possibility
(27:22):
of Supreme Court vacancy will certainly get attention if that happens.
How are we doing with the judge confirmation machinery in
the Senate? As you see it is Trump getting judges
on the Federal Court in the numbers that he needs
to to basically rebuild some aspects of our judiciary towards
sanity after the Biden years.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Well, he's given the ones done in red States, we
have the bluestup process. When the blue stop process was
not to stop judges or US attorneys or US marshals,
And that's what the Democrats are using to that. So
we already have had to change the rules on nomination
because they were blocking all the nominations, so that would
change last year. And if they keep doing what they're
(28:05):
going to do, you know, with whether we have to
get rid of the filibuster, we get rid of the
blue sub process. Because he won, whether Democrats like it,
he is the president. He gets to make dominations, right,
That's that's the way this works. And if it's somebody
that we think is inappropriate, that we can decide not
to vote for him. But the Democrats are trying to
(28:26):
use every mechanism to prevent any success by Trump. They
want the economy to be horrible, the dimcrests wanting to
lose in Iran. They hate our country. All they want
to do is beat Trump because all they don't care
about The Democrats don't care about Americans. They just care
about Trump failing and they get back in power. That's
all they think about is how how do how do they,
(28:47):
you know, get back in power. That's all It's all
Schumer thinks about, Jefferys thinks about Democrats. All they think
about is power, power, power.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
They're a report coming out of Caroline Levitt, jd Vance,
wit Coough, and Cushner are headed to Pakistan to have
face to face meetings with representatives of Iran to try
and figure out what could take place during the ceasefire.
What does victory to you look like? Senator Buck and
I debated what should happen? What could happen? If the
(29:16):
president were to ask you, Senator Scott, what should I
be my red line, so to speak? What is victory
at this point in Iran? What does that look like?
You would say?
Speaker 5 (29:27):
What?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
But the minimum for him, which I agree with, the
minimum for him is that they have no ability to
build an into their weapon, no ability to build blissedness.
So we've taken all the enraged enriched uranium out of
the country and we control it's that's the absolute minimum.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Now, on top of that.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
It's hard to believe they'll stop helping Futis and Hamas
and Hsbala unless we've destroyed their economy. So either they
have to have no economy or they have to have
new leadership because we cannot allow them to have and
you have a future president give them Michae Obama. They
gave them billions of dollars so they can go try
to kill more Americans because they've been killing Americans. Uh,
(30:10):
you know for what forty seven years? So, but the
minimum is no nuclear weapons, no ability and no ballistic
missiles and no ability to do it. That's that's a
bare minimum.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Do you think we'll get there? Do you think the
Iranians will agree to this?
Speaker 4 (30:25):
I think yeah, I think they will because I think
they if you look at.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
What the American military has done.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
I mean, it's unbelievable, what what what we've done.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
So I think that.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
That if I and if just look at the chart
of the people that have been killed from at the
leadership and that's problem primarily been done by the Israelis.
But if you're if you're sitting there and you you know,
most people are not interested in dying. That's been my
experience of life. So you look at that, you look
at the ORG chart and say, oh, I'm next if
I don't change. So I think that they're going to change.
(31:05):
But you know, I'm an internal optimist. But I wouldn't
be on the opposite side of Trump right now. I
would never be on the opposite side of Trump. Would
think the guy, the guys willing to go make the
tough choices to protect us for people.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Out there who maybe just aren't thinking about it. There's
lots to talk about the House. The Senate, we think
is far more impactful. Buck mentioned judges. There's the possibility
of Supreme Court vacancies for people out there that are
maybe not paying attention to it. What's the difference you've
been in both between being on the majority side and
(31:38):
the minority side in the Senate.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Well, if you're in the minority, you don't get to
decide what you've both done at number one, number two
you know none there. So there's nothing you're gonna that
you want to get done. Like we've been bustering about
to get the Save America Act done, there's no way.
I mean, look, I'm gonna keep fighting for that. But
if the GEMP deep's control it, no, they want fraud,
(32:01):
there's no there's no way we'll get a vote on it.
It's hard enough when we're the majority. But but I mean,
there's nothing that would be good for Americans that will happen.
It will be the Democrats. What they want to do
is destroy this country. They want to bankrupt this country.
They want to make everything woke. They hate law, enforcement.
They hate our military. So if you love our country,
(32:23):
there's no in the world you can vote for a Democrats.
So we have to have a majority, and we need
to have a majority in both the House and the Senate,
and we should we have stuff to run on now.
We got a lot of work left to do, but
we have got to get this done. Now I've come
out it's saying we got to get rid of philibuster
because with the way what Democrats are doing is they're
used the philibuster is always supposed to be used to
(32:45):
stop debate, but you get to debate, but eventually you
shut up and you go vote. They're using to say,
you know, you never get a vote. That was never
the way that philibuster are supposed to be set up.
And so we I think we're going to have if
we wouldn't, if we want to have something wrong on
in November, we're going to have to say to ourselves, finally,
you know, all this substruction of stuff by the Democrats,
(33:07):
we're tired of it. We're gonna we're you know, we
gave them a chance. They don't want to work with us,
so we're gonna now we're going to We're going to
go get rid of the philibuster. We're gonna you know, unfortunately,
you know, get rid of things that that we're supposed
to be, you know, useful like I. You know, I
try to work with a bide administration on judges. Right,
instead of saying no, I just all is all I
(33:28):
cared about is give me a judge is not going
to create the law. That's all I cared about. When
I was governor of Florida, I pointed Farder and seven judges,
that's the only thing I care about. You are not.
You don't get the legislate. Legislature does so. But Democrats
they they want to block everything. Trump want to see
it done everything.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
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Speaker 3 (35:15):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Block Dexton Show. Okay, we
got a quick turn here. That was Senator Rick Scott
of Florida. We've got a bunch of talkbacks for you
when we come back at the top of the next hour.
Caroline Levitt just completed a White House press conference, asking
a lot of questions about what exactly is going to
be debated. I would say the biggest news in terms
(35:37):
of tangible reality is jd Vance, Steve Witkoff, and Jared Kushner,
which is the American negotiation team, are headed to Pakistan
where they will be meeting with Iran face to face
to discuss many of these details. But we'll play some
of the latest cuts there. Stock market continues to be
up substantially, has opened high and stayed, and the price
(36:01):
of oil and gas continues to be down. That we
will take some of your calls. We have a bevy
of talkbacks. Most of you agree with Buck and are
pessimistic about how this is going to play out. My
shiny rays of optimism not being well received. We will
discuss that and more in the third hour of the program.
But in the meantime, Buck, I guess we can at
(36:23):
least say.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Nuclear war didn't happen, as nuclear ward did not happen,
and I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna be optimistic nuclear
war's not going to happen. With Iraq, at least we're
not gonna nuke them, so that's nice. We got that
going for us.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
We'll take your calls your Talkback's final hour Wednesday edition
of the program coming up next.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Thanks for hanging out with us on Clay and Buddy
Second hour, Clay end Buck kicks off right now, and
something Clay I thought was really interesting this New York
Post report on you see this, The CIA used a
futuristic new tool called a ghost murmur to find and
rescue the second American airman who was shot down in
Southern Iran.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
According to the New York Post.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Here, secret technology uses long range quantum magnetometry to find
the electromagnetic fingerprint of a human heartbeat and pairs the
data with artificial intelligence software to isolate the signature from
background noise. Again, according to the New York Post here,
(00:42):
so by the Eddie was guy, I'm I wasn't even
good at high school geometry, so like this, you know,
this is not this is not what. I had nothing
to do with any of this kind of stuff in
the military industrial complex.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
With the agency.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
But just even reading that, and they're saying that Director
rat Cliff of the Agency and President Trump alluded to
it in the White House briefing on this, so they,
you know, they're feeling pretty confident in they're reporting. Clay,
I mean, that's just reading that, it's like, wow, yeah,
I've never heard of it. Obviously if it's never been
used before, I've never heard of this before. I have
no idea so here.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I was optimistic in the first hour about straight up
horror moves everything else, this is something I'm actually pessimistic about.
If you want me to go negative on this. I
spend a lot of time thinking about what's.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
What the world is going.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
To be like, and it may happen sooner than we
even think when individual bad actors have access to drones
that can be can be weaponized and are able to
just send drones to blow things up. In other words,
like a lot of this audience has guns to protect
(01:54):
our homes, right, have weaponry fences, all these different things
to try to make us safer inside of our homes.
Some people even have armed security that is patrolling homes.
All these different things. Have you set around and thought
about as we look at what's happening with Ukraine, where
basically Ukraine Russia is a drone war. We'll take some
(02:17):
calls on this, but one issue on the straight of
horror Moves is one weaponized drone, which can be deployed
by one individual, can blow up an entire tanker ship.
At some point in time, bad guys are going to
get access to this drone technology, and I fear they're
just going to be able to bomb random people's houses.
(02:39):
In other words, right now, your concerns an armed robber
might show up at your house with a gun, and
you're trying to think about ways to defend yourself. What
happens at two am when somebody just loads up a
drone with a bomb and just flies it at your
house because they don't like you. This is one of
the things that I worry about because I think the
technology is a moving so rapidly buck that it's inevitable
(03:02):
that individual bad actors are going to get access to
these weaponized drones and start to use them with impunity.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
That's that that is scary to me.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, the cartels have been doing this for some time.
They've used drones, the Mexican drug cartels. They've used drones
for not just surveillance, but even to drop like grenades,
drop explosives on targets, enemies, law enforcement whomever. We are
not far from from a well. The technology already exists.
It's just a question of how long before you start
(03:32):
to see Because these drones are also going to get
to the point where they have autonomous they have an
autonomous flying and movement capability, so you could essentially set
the target and then it just goes and finds the person.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
That's where you and I in the White House saw
a drone and we've talked about this because they declassified it,
but saw a drone attack where there's a car full
of four people and is now the technology is so
specific on the drone that they can fly in kill
one person in the car and then the other three
people you can see on the video just fleeing. That's
(04:11):
how they know what seat the guys in. They're not
taking out the car, they're taking out the guy in
a particular seat inside of it.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It's a variant of the hell Fire missile. It's called
the Flying GINSU. The AGM one one four R nine
X a non explosive missile projectile that essentially has six
sword like blades swords because they are big and long
(04:40):
sword like blades that come out and you know, it's messy,
but no, in a sense it's less messy because no
collateral damage. But you wouldn't want to get hit by
one of these things, that is for sure. But yes,
the technology that is being deployed here is very real,
but Anyway, that New York Post Storyage thought was particularly
interesting because there's people ask me.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I mean, now I've been out.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I've been out of the uh uh, the covert world
for fifteen years now, it'll be fifteen years. I've been
doing media this June. So they got all kinds of
new wiz bangs. I've never heard of some of this. Obviously,
this No one to my knowledge who isn't currently active
and working on this technology and the government have had
any idea about this because it's brand new. But all
(05:23):
things the Maduro Yeah, yeah, the Maduro thing which they
admitted to, which was essentially a sonic weapon, is to
disable all of people. People ask me to like, oh, man,
do you know about this? I was like, no, this
is crazy. This is new stuff. Never heard about it before.
But technology on the battlefield, guys, it's going to advance
so rapidly and it's going to change so much, and uh,
(05:47):
we are You're already seeing some of this stuff in
the early phase that is going to become ubiquitous.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
And you know, this is.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Where we're entering a whole new era of warfare that
will be very different. I think we're at the I
can put it this way, Clay, I think we're about
to enter an era of warfare with the biggest transformation
in how battles are fought since the early days of gunpowder.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I think we're entering. That's a bold prediction.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Well, because we're gonna have uh we already do it
something were you could argue we're already kind of there.
You're going to have on ground, air, and sea, non
human combatants making real time decisions not just on where
they go, but on who and what they target, using
artificial technology and satellite based communication so that they can't
(06:43):
be jammed or interfered with. I mean, this is you're
talking about, my friend, We're talking about robot armies.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Here.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
We're on the edge of robot army stuff in a
way that you know, you say, okay, we don't have
humanoid robots yet. Have you guys seen some of the
stuff that is coming out from even you know, Elon's companies.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Now, he's not making terminator the tea what is it?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
The T eight hundred was that the original The T
one thousand was the was the alloy metal thing, right,
But the T eight hundred I think was the original terminative.
He's not making that he's making nice little robots that
are gonna fold your laundry. But if a robot can
fold your laundry and it can, you know, make decisions,
it can also shoot a gun.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And basically, I know we haven't talked about the Ukraine
situation in some time, but effectively Ukraine seems seems to
have created enough drones and Russia certainly has got them too,
that we have reached some form of equilibrium. Now we're
coming out of winter, so the roads are getting better
(07:50):
and we'll see what happens in the spring summer. But
basically the lines are not moving very much because if
you leave, much like back in the olden days for
those of you who are remember and have studied at
all World War One, like you put your head above
a trench and you were done for, and so it
became almost impossible to move in many ways, that's kind
of what's happened with Dernes now, where if humans come
(08:13):
out in any way and try to advance, the drones
are coming. It's not other humans taking them out. But
we got a lot of talk back. So we'll start
with this one because you wanted to hit this a
while back, and it is probably the number one question
we are getting, and it is it has to do
with what we were just talking about, which is the
larger drone issues. Many of you have been asking a
(08:33):
version of this question, which is what Tom in Oklahoma
City cut f is asking.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
If we destroyed their military, how is if they're still.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Able to try to shut down the straight or remove
out to understand how that's working.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Tom, it's a very good question. We have essentially annihilated
their navy. Like their navy, they've got very little left.
It's also it's hard to hide big boats, right, so
they've got very little left. They've got very little air defense,
although not none as we've seen. I mentioned the man pads,
and I think there were actually SAM sites that people
(09:13):
are I have to go back and read the reporting
on it. I think it was a combination of manpad
and so SAM site is a surface to air missile,
manpad is the shoulder fired rocket, So that they still
have those, and they still have an over half million
person standing army. We haven't killed a half a million
Iranian soldiers, thank god, because that would be that's a
(09:34):
lot of people to kill. We haven't done that. So
they have Their ground force is very much intact, which
is what we would have to contend with even if
we were going to land on the shore of the
of the the Iranian. By the way, all this stuff,
it is helpful to pull up a map for some
of the stuff so you can see, you know, you
got you got the straight up Ormus, and you got
you know, the Saudis are on one side of this
(09:56):
body of water, the Iranians, then you got the Iraqis,
the Kuwaitis. I mean, and this is for the oil world,
about a strategic piece of real estate or a piece
of waterway as you could possibly find. But so Clay,
the answer to our friend's question here is we've really
destroyed their air force, surface to air, their ballistic missiles,
(10:16):
their navy. They got a lot of guys with kalashnikovs
and RPGs and stuff running around still, so think about
that for an invasion. Why we don't want to do that?
And it doesn't take much for whatever they've got to
fire from shore and blow up a tanker.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
It's easy to do even if you're decimated militarily, which
is why the question that I think we were having
in the first hour is to what extent does the
Iranian leadership have the ability to curtail individual actors from
making choices inside of Iran. And this was Pete Hegseth
and his press conference this morning saying, hey, there's still
(10:53):
some missiles and drones being shot off, and I think
Iran's response is, well, we don't have great communication infrastructure
or so we're having difficulty reaching everybody inside of the
Iranian defense and saying hey, we've got a ceasefire going
on right now. It's also possible, and this is where
I think it becomes really messy. It's also possible, Buck
(11:14):
that we have several different factions competing for power inside
of Iran and there isn't any real leader that has
the ability to control the actions inside of the country.
But the easy answer I think for the for the
caller there or the talkbacker is it takes very little
to blow up in a oil tanker.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And if you.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Are an owner your private industry and you own an
oil tanker, what do you think an oil tankers worth
on the market? Eighty million dollars, ninety million dollars, I
mean full of oil, yeah, I got to think of
but I mean just the physical structure of them, Like
you know you're running constantly oil on the oil tanker.
But if you are the business, then let's just say
it's one hundred million dollar asset. It turns into risk analysis, right,
(12:02):
what are the percentage chances that something could happen to
your ship? And as we talked about a lot on
this program, the one thing you don't want to be
transporting if suddenly you have flame or if you have
an explosion and missiles. You know, if mistles are flying
at you and you're on a virtual sea of oil,
that's rough. It's a rough place to be. Podcast listener
(12:22):
Clint E from North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Hit it, Clay, You're going to have to take that
microphone away from a buck.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
He's gonna have my four to.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
One case two and a half percent down instead of
two and a half percent of by the end of
the day.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Very funny, fair fair point, fair point. I'm I'm not
I'm not sort of bullish.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Aw well, No, I think Trump's gonna want I think
this is gonna end up in negotiations. I just think
that when people are assessing the success of this longer term,
it's going to be more of a challenge. We'll see,
we'll see, but I don't think we're going to have
a continuous blow them up, come back to the table,
blow them up, come back to the table. You're gonna
just like I said, give it to we we might
(13:00):
blow up some stuff, and then there'll be an agreement
to talk again, and this agreement will go for a
month or two.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That's that's what I see happen.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
We're gonna keep talking and talking, and the Iranians will
not concede on the key points. That's where I think
this is all heading. Tom from Oklahoma City. Oh, I'm sorry,
we already did that one.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
H h.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Kenneth from Melbourne, Florida.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Clay, you're twisting yourself in knots trying to make your point.
Bottom line, Buck is right. Look, we asked them to
open the straits and let the ships through. That obviously
means we cannot open it. They control it.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Clay, your your floor, My floor is Look at the
I mean like the floor is yours? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, yeah,
I'm taking the floor. Look at the map. We control
once they come out of the Strait of Horror moves
and we have allowed Iranian oil and gas because we
want Iranian oil and gas on the marketplace. So if
(14:01):
like this whole idea of control, if we want to stop,
as the United States, all ships from being able to
come out of the straight of hor Moves, including Iran,
we can do that. Iran is saying they control the
straight of hor moves because they are crazy enough to
just blow ships up. If we wanted to blow ships up,
(14:22):
we could quote control the straight of war moves. We
don't want to do that. We want global commerce to
be able to exist. So it's control is just they're
crazy enough to blow up ships and we're not willing
to do so. So again, if we just said, hey, Iran,
you're not going to be able to sell your oil
and gas, my argument is the ultimate trump card, which
(14:43):
is obviously well played in this context, is that we
can just say, hey, straight of wour Moves is closed,
like we actually have the ability to close it. What
Iran has the ability to do is levy enough risk
such that rational business owners say, I'm not going to
risk my one hundred million let's just say it's one
hundred million dollar boat to try to get this oil
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and gas out, to say nothing of the potential loss
of lives. And by the way, a lot of crewmen
may be sitting back there saying, you know, Buck, I'd
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These are rational human actors, and Iran is playing on
their rational human fear.
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Speaker 2 (16:47):
We are rolling on that.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
We will give you an update if anything more comes
from it. Mentioning this we mentioned it a little bit ago.
We'll take some of your calls. We got a ton
of talkbacks. Big story in the New York Times. We
shared it about the decision to go to war with
Iran and how it was made. I thought the first
of all is actually really well written. We said earlier
(17:11):
that it reads with a sense of truth to it,
very specific detailed.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
We can talk about this maybe a little bit when
we come back. JD.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Van's very clear in the article Buck that he did
not want to do this and that he advised the
president against striking Iran. I'm surprised that's not getting more
attention right now in the media because I thought it
was super interesting. Everybody else did not want to give
(17:39):
as aggressive of opinions. It sounded like they were just
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one of the lead negotiators on this cease fire to
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Speaker 1 (18:54):
We are joined by Florida Senator Rick Scott with us
now the state of Florida, and Senator, not only do
you have a full time do you hear that in
New York state tax authorities? A full time Florida resident
here with me. You've got a part time Florida resident
with Clay. So a lot of love for the Sunshine State.
Thank you for being here with us. Let's first get
(19:17):
into this because the big news of the day is
the cease fire.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
You come from it.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I mean, not only do you have the Senate to
draw upon for all of this, of course, but you
come from a business background, You've done plenty of negotiating yourself.
How do you feel about this cease fire and what
do you think comes next?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Well, first off, you have to really admire Donald Trump
the guy. The guy is the deal doer, and he
you know, he should listen to what he tells you.
I mean, he clearly wants to get rid of the
newcrow weapons, which I'm very appreciative because I love my family.
I don't want them killed by news the weapons. And
I think every family should be thinking that way in America.
And thank god to this president cares about us and
(19:57):
wants to save our lives and what hell with Obama
doing and and Biden doing so?
Speaker 6 (20:03):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
And he also wants to get rid of the ballistic
missiles and so I think I think it's great. I
hope Iran smart. Uh, and they keep it going. The
Democrats are completely insane. I mean, they they say, oh,
we got it. You know, they want to impeach Trump
because you know, he he's holding I ran accountable.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
So thinkbout if these.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Same Democrats were in office, Sherman wouldn't have you know,
gone through the South because by then you know, Lincoln
would be impeached, and Roosevelt sure he wouldn't destroy the
infrastructure in Germany because he had been impeached, and Truman
wouldn't have dropped bomb because they had already been impeached.
So these I mean, these Democrats are defending I told
a Moss, I mean they're in my you know, close
(20:45):
to Florida. They're they're down into Cuba defending a horrible regime.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
They're defending the Ranian regime.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
That killed what thirty some thousand people just in January.
So it's, uh, but Trump's doing the right thing. I'm
very optimistic that this is going to last. It's but
if it doesn't, I mean I wouldn't play with Trump
if they if they don't do their part, don't live
up to their part of the mark, and you know,
all hell is going to break loose. You can if
(21:14):
you have you seen that chart of all the leadership
of ARAM that's been destroyed. So so I don't think
there's anybody for putting a call anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
We're talking to Florida Senator Rick Scott. You're up for
re election. If I'm not mistaken this November. You don't
know your opponent yet, but you're also high up in
overall Senate leadership. Let's talk about the big picture here.
I was just on Fox News talking about the situation
in Michigan. Mike Rodgers is going to be the nominee there.
(21:45):
New Hampshire also and Georgia are potential pickups. And then
you have battlegrounds coming in North Carolina, in Maine, Ohio, others.
What do you expect for the fall to look like
and how optimistic or pessimistic are you about the larger
state maps?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
I think I think Republican are going to do well
as long as we have something to run on. Trump's
given us a lot to run on. I mean, if
you look at what he's what he's done trying to bring, you.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Know, before their ran thing.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
But they'll come back down all prices down, the cost
of living down, supporter law enforcement, support of military.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
So Republicans.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Republicans are the party that we care about your job,
we care about your kids' education, we care about public safety.
And the Democrats are clearly the party that doesn't care
about jobs, doesn't care about your kids education, and doesn't
care about public safety. So that should be our message
if it does I think we're going to do well,
but we got to get our votes out. Susans Collins
has got a race in Maine, he says, has got
(22:45):
a race in Ohio, like Rogers got a race in Michigan,
while he's got a race in North Carolina. Soloman's got
a race in Alaska. So we only we've got to
pick up opportunity possibly in New Hampshire with the new
new pickup opportunity, you know, hopefully to beat us off
in Georgia's So we just got to raise our money,
have our message buster bucks every day. You want your
work every day to get your you know, to get
(23:08):
your votes out every every every day. So if we do,
I think we're gonna have a good fall.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Well, let's certainly hope.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
So because we all know, Senator you've probably just seen
this popping up in your news feed, they're already talking impeachment,
These democrats in the House, they're already talking crazy stuff.
And I do you think that I'm just gonna put
this out to you? Do you think that the president
is going to have to give preemptive pardon to some
members of his cabinet if just in case a Democrat
(23:35):
were to win because they're so hell bent on some
kind of payback. I worry the Democrats, psyche to you,
has been so damaged by Trump.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Go ahead, center, Yeah, I agree. I mean, I mean,
it's just Trump derangement syndrome. They don't they don't care
about this country. You saw it in the State of
the Union when Trump asks to stand up if you
think your first job is to protect Americans and rather
than illegal alien and not one Democrats up for that.
So the I don't think even betterments for that. Uh
(24:07):
so the so, I don't know what will happen, we
get we just the bottom line is we cannot lose.
We have got to We've got to do it. We've
got to keep the majority in the House and the Senate.
If if they get the House, and I assume they're
going to peach a lot of people and we're gonna
have to deal with it in the Senate. But Trump's
I mean, Trump's doing it. I mean, what's fascinating is
(24:30):
if you care about this country, you have to thank Trump.
You know, you might say, oh gosh, I wish he
I wish his rhetoric wasn't that, but guess what he
seares the hell out of people.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
I mean, look at what he's done. Look at look
we got.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
We have a chance for democracy. And in Venezuela with
with the majora out, it looks like.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
We've got a big opportunity.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
In Cuba, you look at look at what he's tried
to broke a peace around the world. If if we can,
if he can pull off what he's gonna pull off
and ran it, Chang completely changes them at least. And
guess what, Russia and China don't have an ally in
the Middle East anymore because I mean they you know,
it's all transactional and Ramdas is their friend, because they
all hate America.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
You represent a state that has a huge Venezuelan and
a huge Cuban population.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
You just mentioned both.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
President may Well have asked you, certainly a colleague of yours,
Marco Rubio, a Secretary of State who you know very well,
Let's go to Cuba. What to you should happen in Cuba?
What would you advise the president as a senator representing
the state with more expat Cubans than any in the country.
What should we do with Cuba? How should we handle it?
(25:40):
What should the future look like there?
Speaker 4 (25:42):
We First of all, we all have to realize dias
Canal is not the leader. The only leader is roal Castro.
Royal Castro needs to be indicted. And the first step
is I would indict roal Castro, and that I would
arrest in right, because he's actually the leader of Cuba.
Then else not the leader. Next, I would make sure
the regime has nothing. They have no dollars, they have
(26:06):
no petro, and they have nothing. Just in the last
two weeks, Democrats have gone down to Cuba to prop
up a regime that kills its own citizens, that puts
them in prison as young as sixteen. There's a sixteen
year old who's in prison, and they go down there
with a guy that is it lives in my faith.
It says that I should be killed. He goes on
(26:26):
a radio and says Rick Scott, you need to go
kill Rick Scott. So this is these are disgusting people
that don't care about people I like. I asked, why
didn't you go down and ask them, you know, talk
to the political prisoners what they see, ask them what
it's like. So, but I'm I'm hopeful if Trump keeps
doing what he's doing, I think the regime is going
to fall. I think the people of Cuba are going
(26:48):
to rise up. They've been they've been protesting, so I
think they will rise up and take over and pick
the government they want, not the government that that you
know they was lied to by the Dale.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Castro Speaking of Senator Rick Scott of Florida, Senator, how
are we doing with the judge This is something that
is always in the background of my mind because I
think it is one of those parts of an administration
that is super important but doesn't always get much attention
at headlines because it's an ongoing thing. Although the possibility
(27:22):
of Supreme Court vacancy will certainly get attention if that happens.
How are we doing with the judge confirmation machinery in
the Senate? As you see it is Trump getting judges
on the Federal Court in the numbers that he needs
to to basically rebuild some aspects of our judiciary towards
sanity after the Biden years.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Well, he's given the ones done in red States, we
have the bluestup process. When the blue stop process was
not to stop judges or US attorneys or US marshals,
And that's what the Democrats are using to that. So
we already have had to change the rules on nomination
because they were blocking all the nominations, so that would
change last year. And if they keep doing what they're
(28:05):
going to do, you know, with whether we have to
get rid of the filibuster, we get rid of the
blue sub process. Because he won, whether Democrats like it,
he is the president. He gets to make dominations, right,
That's that's the way this works. And if it's somebody
that we think is inappropriate, that we can decide not
to vote for him. But the Democrats are trying to
(28:26):
use every mechanism to prevent any success by Trump. They
want the economy to be horrible, the dimcrests wanting to
lose in Iran. They hate our country. All they want
to do is beat Trump because all they don't care
about The Democrats don't care about Americans. They just care
about Trump failing and they get back in power. That's
all they think about is how how do how do they,
(28:47):
you know, get back in power. That's all It's all
Schumer thinks about, Jefferys thinks about Democrats. All they think
about is power, power, power.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
They're a report coming out of Caroline Levitt, jd Vance,
wit Coough, and Cushner are headed to Pakistan to have
face to face meetings with representatives of Iran to try
and figure out what could take place during the ceasefire.
What does victory to you look like? Senator Buck and
I debated what should happen? What could happen? If the
(29:16):
president were to ask you, Senator Scott, what should I
be my red line, so to speak? What is victory
at this point in Iran? What does that look like?
You would say?
Speaker 5 (29:27):
What?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
But the minimum for him, which I agree with, the
minimum for him is that they have no ability to
build an into their weapon, no ability to build blissedness.
So we've taken all the enraged enriched uranium out of
the country and we control it's that's the absolute minimum.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Now, on top of that.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
It's hard to believe they'll stop helping Futis and Hamas
and Hsbala unless we've destroyed their economy. So either they
have to have no economy or they have to have
new leadership because we cannot allow them to have and
you have a future president give them Michae Obama. They
gave them billions of dollars so they can go try
to kill more Americans because they've been killing Americans. Uh,
(30:10):
you know for what forty seven years? So, but the
minimum is no nuclear weapons, no ability and no ballistic
missiles and no ability to do it. That's that's a
bare minimum.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Do you think we'll get there? Do you think the
Iranians will agree to this?
Speaker 4 (30:25):
I think yeah, I think they will because I think
they if you look at.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
What the American military has done.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
I mean, it's unbelievable, what what what we've done.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
So I think that.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
That if I and if just look at the chart
of the people that have been killed from at the
leadership and that's problem primarily been done by the Israelis.
But if you're if you're sitting there and you you know,
most people are not interested in dying. That's been my
experience of life. So you look at that, you look
at the ORG chart and say, oh, I'm next if
I don't change. So I think that they're going to change.
(31:05):
But you know, I'm an internal optimist. But I wouldn't
be on the opposite side of Trump right now. I
would never be on the opposite side of Trump. Would
think the guy, the guys willing to go make the
tough choices to protect us for people.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Out there who maybe just aren't thinking about it. There's
lots to talk about the House. The Senate, we think
is far more impactful. Buck mentioned judges. There's the possibility
of Supreme Court vacancies for people out there that are
maybe not paying attention to it. What's the difference you've
been in both between being on the majority side and
(31:38):
the minority side in the Senate.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Well, if you're in the minority, you don't get to
decide what you've both done at number one, number two
you know none there. So there's nothing you're gonna that
you want to get done. Like we've been bustering about
to get the Save America Act done, there's no way.
I mean, look, I'm gonna keep fighting for that. But
if the GEMP deep's control it, no, they want fraud,
(32:01):
there's no there's no way we'll get a vote on it.
It's hard enough when we're the majority. But but I mean,
there's nothing that would be good for Americans that will happen.
It will be the Democrats. What they want to do
is destroy this country. They want to bankrupt this country.
They want to make everything woke. They hate law, enforcement.
They hate our military. So if you love our country,
(32:23):
there's no in the world you can vote for a Democrats.
So we have to have a majority, and we need
to have a majority in both the House and the Senate,
and we should we have stuff to run on now.
We got a lot of work left to do, but
we have got to get this done. Now I've come
out it's saying we got to get rid of philibuster
because with the way what Democrats are doing is they're
used the philibuster is always supposed to be used to
(32:45):
stop debate, but you get to debate, but eventually you
shut up and you go vote. They're using to say,
you know, you never get a vote. That was never
the way that philibuster are supposed to be set up.
And so we I think we're going to have if
we wouldn't, if we want to have something wrong on
in November, we're going to have to say to ourselves, finally,
you know, all this substruction of stuff by the Democrats,
(33:07):
we're tired of it. We're gonna we're you know, we
gave them a chance. They don't want to work with us,
so we're gonna now we're going to We're going to
go get rid of the philibuster. We're gonna you know, unfortunately,
you know, get rid of things that that we're supposed
to be, you know, useful like I. You know, I
try to work with a bide administration on judges. Right,
instead of saying no, I just all is all I
(33:28):
cared about is give me a judge is not going
to create the law. That's all I cared about. When
I was governor of Florida, I pointed Farder and seven judges,
that's the only thing I care about. You are not.
You don't get the legislate. Legislature does so. But Democrats
they they want to block everything. Trump want to see
it done everything.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Block Dexton Show. Okay, we
got a quick turn here. That was Senator Rick Scott
of Florida. We've got a bunch of talkbacks for you
when we come back at the top of the next hour.
Caroline Levitt just completed a White House press conference, asking
a lot of questions about what exactly is going to
be debated. I would say the biggest news in terms
(35:37):
of tangible reality is jd Vance, Steve Witkoff, and Jared Kushner,
which is the American negotiation team, are headed to Pakistan
where they will be meeting with Iran face to face
to discuss many of these details. But we'll play some
of the latest cuts there. Stock market continues to be
up substantially, has opened high and stayed, and the price
(36:01):
of oil and gas continues to be down. That we
will take some of your calls. We have a bevy
of talkbacks. Most of you agree with Buck and are
pessimistic about how this is going to play out. My
shiny rays of optimism not being well received. We will
discuss that and more in the third hour of the program.
But in the meantime, Buck, I guess we can at
(36:23):
least say.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Nuclear war didn't happen, as nuclear ward did not happen,
and I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna be optimistic nuclear
war's not going to happen. With Iraq, at least we're
not gonna nuke them, so that's nice. We got that
going for us.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
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