March 13, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show centers on the high‑stakes California gubernatorial race and the political, economic, and security crises gripping the nation. The hour opens with Clay and Buck welcoming California gubernatorial candidate Steve Hilton, who discusses both lighthearted personal moments—such as his now‑famous “MAGA beard”—and the serious policy battles unfolding in the state. Hilton details the massive hospice and medical fraud uncovered through Califraud.com, explaining that billions in state funds have been siphoned off by corrupt networks tied directly to Democratic donors, including healthcare interests and government‑aligned unions. He emphasizes that this is not incompetence but systemic corruption, fueled by a political machine that profits from fraudulent schemes while taxpayers suffer. Hilton outlines his reform agenda, including the role of the state controller, who would have the power to audit and immediately shut off funding to fraudulent organizations—an authority he argues is essential for restoring accountability in California.
Much of Hour 2 focuses on the escalating California governor’s race under the state’s “top‑two” jungle primary system. Hilton explains that Democrats are consolidating behind Eric Swalwell, who is rapidly rising in polls thanks to backing from major unions and the Nancy Pelosi political machine. Hilton warns that if Republicans split their vote between him and his GOP rival, Chad Bianco—whom he criticizes for taking a knee for BLM and supporting amnesty—California could end up with a general‑election matchup between Swalwell and billionaire climate activist Tom Steyer. He cites current RealClearPolitics averages showing him in the lead among Republicans and stresses that unifying behind a single conservative candidate is the only path to making the November ballot. Hilton and Clay also discuss California’s sky‑high gas prices, with Hilton explaining that Democratic environmental extremism—not global events—is responsible for the state’s $2‑per‑gallon premium over the national average. He reveals that California sits atop enormous untapped oil reserves, yet imports nearly 80% of its oil due to regulatory chokeholds that have shut down pipelines and refineries. Hilton pledges that as governor he will end the state’s war on fossil fuels, reopen production, keep refineries alive, and bring gasoline back to $3 a gallon.
The final half of Hour 2 turns to breaking national‑security stories and the media’s increasingly distorted coverage of terrorism. Clay and Buck highlight how ABC News framed the Michigan synagogue attack as a reaction to the suspect’s family losses in Lebanon—an attempt to rationalize a jihadist terror act, they argue, that the media would never extend to victims of anti‑Jewish terrorism. The hosts contrast the media’s sympathy for attackers with the heroism of everyday Americans who have stopped recent terror attempts. Buck revisits the Old Dominion University attack, where a convicted ISIS supporter—released early from federal prison—shot an ROTC instructor before being killed by cadets who fought him bare‑handed. Clay underscores the bravery of the fallen victim, Lt. Col. Brandon Shaw, and reiterates that five jihadist attacks in two weeks demonstrate a clear pattern that cannot be ignored. Buck explains how jihadists often seek ideological praise online, creating a copycat effect that can trigger more attacks, especially during geopolitical conflict such as the U.S.–Iran war. He warns that authorities likely have hundreds of high‑risk individuals under watch and that the country must brace for additional incidents.
The hour concludes with Clay and Buck emphasizing the strategic failure of progressive narratives that deny the role of Islamic extremism, noting that the same media figures who obsess over “white supremacy” are unwilling to report honestly on jihadist terrorism—even when attackers openly proclaim their motives. As the hosts prepare for Hour 3, they signal a shift toward another major national story: the mass exodus of high‑income earners from blue states like Washington, New York, and California to low‑tax red states such as Florida, a trend exemplified by Jeff Bezos and Howard Schultz fleeing newly imposed wealth taxes.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The second hour of Clay and Buck goes right. Now
we're joined by Steve Hilton. He's running for governor in California. Steve,
always great to have you our friend, But we got
to dive into something before we get into all the
policy and all the seriousness. It seems that you, sir,
are sporting a Clay Travis style beard, and I just
(00:22):
want to say that the people of America have spoken.
They are fans of your salt and pepper beard. I'm
a slightly different generation than you and Clay, so my
beard doesn't quite have the gravitas of all that silver
quite yet, but I think it looks very distinguished on
you and Clay. And so I'm a proponent.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Okay. So I got to tell you the story, and
it's got a good ending. So it's totally accidental. We're
away for Thanksgiving last November, and I was just lazy
and I didn't shave. And the first day back, I
had some really early TV hit like Fox and Friends
or something, and I thought I just didn't have the
time or the energy to shave. As I went on,
(01:04):
assuming i'd get all this feedback saying you're so scruffy,
why didn't you clean up quite the opposite. A bunch
of nice messages about the beard, which really wasn't a beard.
At that point, I thought I'd tried it out on
the road in California. I took a poll at every
event that I did, overwhelmingly positive. And here and then
there are two moments that I thought I gotta stick
(01:26):
with this. Number One, I did Don Junior's podcast, and
you know, I've known Don from many years, and he
came on on the zoom and the first thing he
said was, hey, man, love the Maga beard. So I thought,
I don't know, is that a thing, the Maga Beard.
And then here's the one that I think you'll enjoy.
I just got a text from a good friend of
mine who's supporting me, a legend James Woods, the legendary
(01:49):
James Woods texted me last week and said, this is it.
It gives you exactly the right amount of gravitas. I
really think you can win this now. So it's staying.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
You're like the Doseki's guy with a British accent. So
I think that this is this is a strong there's
a strong play for you. We support it. But now
let's get into this because we've talked about the governor thing.
We're going to talk you about that more. You got
to tell us what's going on here with the most
recent fraud revelations in your state. Obviously, all the Democrats
(02:20):
in charge obviously knew, some asleep at the wheeler probably
you know, doesn't even care about the fraud hospices. What
do we know about the hospice fraud.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Well, the first thing to bear in minded this is
not neglect or incompetence. This is corruption. Because the reason
that all this fraud has gone on in California and
our estimate, So remember, just to take a few steps back.
I set up last year in the wake of the
Minnesota revelations a whistleblower line here in California called califoraud
(02:50):
dot com. We've had thousands of tips coming in, and
then earlier this year we set up cal Doge, which
is now up and running. Obviously, we're not elected yet,
so it's not an official thing, but you've got many
volunteers going through the books finding the fraud and we're
publishing these fraud reports. And one of the main areas
that we got tips for was in this medical space
(03:10):
because it's just huge amounts of money. It's and the
reason it's corrupt is if you look at the donations
to Democrat politicians in California and you look at the categories,
and Gavin Newsom is a useful proxy. Here's to be
running statewide in California for sixteen years. The number one
category of his donors government unions number two, try lawyers
(03:32):
number three, private sector unions number four, healthcare, healthcare don't
they're making money off of this, and they are, And
Gavin Newsom is the puppet of these people who are
doing the fraud. And that's why this goes on. It's
not neglect, it's not incompetence, it's corruption. And the scale
of it is just unbelievable. And the brazen, shameless theft
(03:52):
of our money to put in the pockets of these
scammers that then give money donations to Gavin us and
the other Democrats. It's just unbelievable. But the good news
is we'll be now and does not just ask you
had various people now really investigating it. You've got the
Federal Action JD leading that it's really going to come
to an end, especially when I'm elected in November, and
(04:13):
we're going to just stop all this in its tracks.
Last point I'd make is I'm putting together a slate,
a team of candidates running with me statewide in California
that's never been done before. In the governor's race. A
very important position is the state Controller. And the state
Controller has the power to audit every organization receiving state
money and to turn off the supply of money literally
to stop the money flowing. And there's a fantastic guy
(04:35):
called Herb Morgan running with me. We're working very closely together.
If you know, we can really change this big time
if we're elected this year.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Okay, last hour, I saw that this moron, Eric Swolwell
is right now potentially going to be favored as the Democrat.
I don't know what I'll have to do if you
were running against Alex Eric Swalwell, but there has to
be forty IQ points at least that separate you from
(05:05):
Eric Swalwell. I want to put out the call up
and down with the breadth of California right now. The
election is when when can people start voting for you?
And I think again a lot of people don't understand
this California has. I think it's called a jungle primary. Right,
we're the top two regardless of party advance. So explain
(05:26):
all the rules, tell people how to vote. What do
they need to know, because we are getting close to
ballots being headed out.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Exactly right, Clay, thank you. Listen, this top two system
is ridiculous. Obviously we should get rid of it. Book
we got it, and so we got to play by
these rules. For the last year or so, you've seen
a kind of clown car situation on the Democrat side,
nine or ten candidates, none of all of them incredibly
unimpressive machine politicians and hacks and ridiculous people, and they've
(05:55):
been dividing up the vote. And as a result of that,
in a lot of these polls, I've been leading and
there's one other Republican who will get to in a second.
Often that we've been the top two. But I said
all along it's not going to stay that way because
the Democrat machine is going to get behind one of
their candids. The unions, in particularly the government unions, they
will want their puppet that they control, and that is
(06:16):
what is happening right now, and that's why you're seeing
Eric Swolwell move up and up. And I think that
that will continue. The big unions are going to be
endorsing in the next few weeks. The teachers, the SCIU,
the Nancy Pelosi machine is going to get behind him,
I think, and so I think you're going to see
him really advance now. Right now, as of this morning,
the Real Clear Politics average of all the polls in California,
(06:39):
there's a bunch of these Democrats below seven percent. You've
got Katie Porter at ten percent. You've got Tom Steyer
and the other Republican Chad Bianco at eleven percent, Eric
Swollwell at thirteen, and I'm on fifteen and a half.
So that's the good news. On the average, I'm still ahead.
But you're right. There was a poll this week first
time that showed Eric Swollwell in the lead, a real pole.
(07:00):
It was a proper serious pole, and so we got
to take this seriously. The election is June, the second
ballots go out May the second. We're really weeks away
now from this election kicking off. The most important thing
to understand is that if we split the Republican vote,
it's not only that you're going to get Eric Swowell.
(07:20):
You're probably going to get Eric Swowell and Tom Steyer,
the billionaire climate fanatic. He has already spent seventy million
dollars just in the last few weeks, a few months,
and that's moving him up in the polls. And because
of this top two system, you don't need a huge
percentage to make it into the general election because there's
(07:41):
so many candidates. So I can see a situation where
we've got, you know, like, I don't know what to
even make of that Stier versus Swallow, what a joke.
But if you get behind one Republican candidate and I'm
the leading Republican and there's a lot of issues with
the other guy, Chad Bianco, he took a knee for BLM,
he says crazy things on immigration. He's basically for amnesty
(08:03):
on immigration, you can't have him. And so this is
the moment for every Republican to get serious about this.
Get behind the leading Republican candidate, and then I will
be guaranteed to be in the top two, because that's
how the math will work. And then it's a whole
new fight and we'll take it to whoever the Democrats
put up.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Speaking of Steve Hilton, he's running for governor and he's
telling us all about how this race is critical but
also winnable in his estimation in his maths and steven
to that end, I saw a lot of people are
focused in on gas prices right now for obvious reasons.
But your state is always the punching bag. It's you
know it for the rest of the country of you
(08:43):
see how high the gas prices are there. So yes,
Iran has everyone oh my gosh, what are gas prices
going to do? I think it's going to be fine,
by the way, but everyone's a little freaked out.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
And then in California it's, well, your gas price is
it's like there's always an oil embargo somewhere because California's
gas prices are crazy. You recently said to gas execs,
don't give up on the state of California. I don't
even think people realize that California has an oil and
gas industry. Can you speak to that a bit? And
what you're hoping could happen if you become governor.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It's an amazing situation. Again, just the lunacy of these
democrat ideologues, these climate fanatics incredible. First of all, let's
look at the numbers. So the temporary spike, and it's
obviously temporary. Everyone knows that. In the gas price since
the Iran War, which is what about fifty cents average nationwide?
Right in California, you look at the average, it's two
(09:38):
dollars high the rest of the country. Such a very
simple way of putting it, gavin you. Some of the
Democrats are four times as destructive as war in the
Middle East for California's when it comes to gas. The
point about California is we have abundant oil and gas
reserves in our state, mainly in Kern County, but now
(09:58):
huge reserve has been discovered in California. Right, I'm sure
there's a there's a reserve there which is considered to
be the second biggest in America, the niche behind the
Permian Basin. We have massive oil and gas reserves right now,
and we are importing in California nearly eighty percent of
(10:19):
the oil that we use. It used to be the opposite.
Most of our oil and gas we produced in state.
So what are these insane democrats now doing in the
name of climate They are shipping oil halfway round the
world on giant super tankers, spewing out carbon emissions because
they think it's part of their war on fossil fuels.
We're not using any less fossil fuel in California, we're
(10:41):
just importing it. It's insane, and that's the reason that
the refineries are closing down. Because the refineries were built
to refine California crude. The supply of that has been
dropping year by year with their war on the industry
here in California. Now the insane situe. I'm just with
a group of energy industry folks this morning, and now
(11:02):
there's even the insane situation that the small amount that
we're relatively that we're now producing, it used to go
in pipelines from Kern County to the refineries in the
Bay Area and in Near La. One of those refineries
has now one of those pipelines has now shut down
because there's not enough oil to justify the business. So
now what's happening. The remainder that we're producing is going
(11:24):
on trucks, so they again in the name of climate,
instead of a nice clean pipeline, we're now trucking it.
It's so insane. Now, as governor, I could reverse all
of that because it's all being done through these bureaucratic
agencies CARB, the California Air Resources Board, the Energy Commission, CALGEM,
the Geologic and Energy Management Agency, and it's very straightforward.
(11:46):
As governor, I will end the war on fossil fuels
as long as we are using oil and gas in California.
We're going to use California oil and gas. That will
keep the refineries open, bring down the cost of import,
and we're going to get to three dollar gas in California.
That's the first pledge I made on the campaign trip.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I think this is so important and why I think
again everybody out there listening to us right now needs
to go vote for you and get you into the
final two. Buck and I have talked a lot about
the legacy of California. You grew up in England, Brut
grew up in New York. I grew up in Tennessee.
I remember the first time I ever got to go
(12:24):
to California. I was twenty one years old. I think
I had a college roommate from California. I went to
go visit, and I was so excited to step foot
on soil in California because of the legacy of awesomeness
that we had grown up with buckets, talked about this
in New York. California, this golden shining state on a hill.
(12:44):
It's lost. You could help to return that. But I
think your experience growing up and what California meant to
you still can resonate with so many Californians.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
On one hundred percent, Claire, I love the way you
put that. Look, the California dream is a real thing.
You know this, and it was in my imagination too,
like even before we moved here with my wife and
my sons, you know, whenever it was twenty twelve, we
moved here back in the day. I mean, people know
me from Fox obviously, but you know, most of my
career has been in business, and I worked for a
while in the government in the UK for David Cameron,
(13:19):
and when I was put in together the policy plan
before he became Prime Minister in twenty ten, one of
the Spectator magazine in the UK wrote a piece about me.
This is like twenty odd years ago, and they said,
and the title of the piece was a cover story
California Dreaming, and the theme of it was Steve Hilton,
David Cameron's policy guru wants to make the US inspired
(13:42):
by California, wants to make the UK more like California. Well,
who would want to do that today? I mean, that's
how far we've fallen. But the point is that that
idea of California. Sometimes I put it like this, California
means to America, what America means to the world. It
represents all the great virtues and beauty of our nation,
(14:02):
optimism and energy and dynamism and the kind of rebel
spirit and doing your own thing that's been crushed by
these years of bureaucratic, bloated, nanny state, bureaucratic government, and
the taxes and the spending and the bloat and the
waste and the regulations crushing the soul and spirit of California.
But it won't take much to really get back to
(14:26):
that beautiful California dream, because we've just got to stop
the government from doing all these insane things, and then
people and entrepreneurs will take care of the rest of it.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Steve, bring home the w in this governor's race, and
don't touch that beard, all right, all right, you got it,
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Podcasts, and welcome back in play Buck Sexton Show. Friday
edition of the program will take some of your calls,
lots of your talkbacks. Buck, you knew this was going
to happen, but I do want to share the way
that the attack on the synagogue in Michigan is being covered.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
This is ABC News.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Have you seen this headline yet? The mayor of Dearborn
Heights said the suspect involved in the shooting and vehicle
ramming attack at a Detroit area synagogue quote had lost
several members of his own family in an Israeli attack
on their home in Lebanon. They are justifying a terror
attack based on what happened to this guy allegedly and
(16:39):
his family in Lebanon. He decided that he was just
going to randomly attack a synagogue in America. And my
question for everybody out there is, maybe I've missed all
the people who had Jewish relatives that were murdered on
October seventh and just drove cars loaded with explosives into mosques,
or maybe that's happening all the time. Obviously this is ridiculous,
but understand the framing that we're going to get.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
The media is so deeply, deeply indoctrinated with this stuff
that it's really hard to get them to think about
things in any other way. They view this all as ultimately,
first and foremost racial. They even view the Islam and
Judaism thing as racial, not religious, because they have that's
(17:27):
the framework that are politics, and the left in America
puts things through first and foremost, and so Clay, there's
no reasoning with them. It's these were brown people that
did these two attacks, these two terror attacks, actually the
three well, one guy was black. These are brown people
that these two terror attacks. Have to find a way
to be as sympathetic as possible to the attacker.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Here.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
That's the media's attitude about it, because brown people are
victims as long as they're attacking non brown people. And
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(18:57):
with our friend Steve Holton about what's going on in
calif Or. We wanted to talk a bit here about
the aftermath of these two terror attacks that happened, both
of them with Jie hottist intent. I think that's pretty clear,
although some of the media don't know. We may never
(19:18):
know them. We may never know the real motive. This
is now beyond parody. When you have these news anchors.
Who's some guy you know, his name could be Mohammed
Mohammad wearing an iHeart isis T shirt. Can you run
into some place start shooting, yelling Alahu walk bar. He
could have written out a long confession beforehand, saying I'm
(19:41):
doing this on behalf of the Islamic State. You'll still
have a CNN anchor who will pop up and be like,
but can we really know? Can we really know the
motive behind this? And if it gets too tough for
them eventually, what they'll start doing is running panel discussions
about how the Islamic State is not Islamic. You know
that That's the other thing they like to do. This
(20:01):
is this has nothing to do with Islam, Like, well,
these guys seem to think it does. So there's that
this is a common We went through this clay in
the whole Gwatt era, which was really the Bush and
Obama years, predominantly eight years of Bush, eight years of Obama,
where we just had this was the argument always all
(20:22):
the time, and you had Democrats bending over backwards, bending
over backwards, to make sure that no one actually thought
there was any connection between Islamic terrorism and Islamic anything. Remember,
the Obama administration tried to change the GWATT, which is
what we still call it now those of us who remember,
which was the Global War on Terror, which was a
(20:43):
bushism they wanted to call it. I don't remember the
full acronym, but it was something like overseas contingency operations
against ideological extremists, and it really was something like that.
It was some absurd you know. The acronym was like
abaca jabber or something, and it was really long and
was like, we're not going to do that. Remember also,
Obama wanted to call it ISL instead of ISIS. Everyone
(21:04):
calls it ISIS now that Obama's always icele, it's IL.
We went through all this kind of nonsense. We understand
what's going on here. We understand why these people are
attacking in terms of what their ideology is and what
their worldview is, and there's going to be more of this.
What we are seeing though, is vigilance, taking security in
(21:26):
your own hands, acting quickly, getting off the X, you know, intervening,
taking action can make it huge, can make a huge difference,
and in the case of the synagogue, no good guy casualties.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
So we know five attackers so far, if I'm not mistaken, right,
five different Muslim fundamentalist terror attackers. Two in New York City,
one in Austin, one in Virginia, and one in in
the Detroit area. Here's a question for you, Buck, five
have acted. What is the number of people you think
(22:02):
that are either susceptible or willing to engage in acts
of violence that are currently in this country. This is
what I spend a lot of time thinking about, because
everything is a probabilistic analysis. Mostly these are.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Going to be young men.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Mostly these are going to be young men without families, right,
that have been polluted by the idea that the best
thing they can do is give up their life in
a jee hottest attack. There's five we know in just
the last two weeks. Is it a thousand, is it
two thousand? Is it six thousand? How many people do
you think in America right now are willing on some
(22:37):
level to do this if the situation arises.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Having worked during a heightened time of Islamic extremism in
one of those offices, Clay and obviously the biggest one,
which was New York. You're at a minimum right now.
I would assume that the FBI, elements of DHS, state
police that have counter terrorism elements, of fusion centers. You're
(23:01):
talking about hundreds of cases where the people who are
close to it are saying, this could go off at
you know, this could be action at any moment. It could.
It could become an actionable plot. And if they haven't
gotten them on a criminal on some kind of a
criminal violation before, the best they can do is just
(23:23):
keep eyes on. That's where we are, by the way,
I said at least hundreds. It could be in the
low thousands, but that's where we are. Okay, So that's interesting.
Here's the second question for you. We know, unfortunately, in
two different circumstances, suicide's cluster because people see this is
awful for people out there who have teenagers, particularly if
(23:45):
one kid commits suicide. Unfortunately, there are often echoes of
that suicidal act because it puts in people's minds the
idea of following through.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
This is data. This is what it shows. Unfortunately, when
we see school shootings, there are often cluster impacts from
those school shootings because people who are of unsound mind
or potentially susceptible to acting, are more likely to do it.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Buck, are you afraid?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Similarly, now that we've had five different jihattis to act
out that even people out there that are on the
fringe of whether or not to do this become more
likely to act because they see this having happened. Is
that a thing where when you see, like with suicide
and with copy.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Shooting act, is that basically it's like a copycat Yeah,
of course. And also you get people who see this, uh,
these actions and based upon you got to remember, they're
playing to a very different audience, if you will, sort
of in a way, in a manner of speaking, than
the rest of us. You know, they'll see and they'll
(24:50):
be familiar with some you know, gi hotti chat rooms
things like that, uh signal chats, I mean things that
are I think maybe they use teleg more so. I
don't know where the gihaties are hanging out these days.
I'm not in that game anymore of surveilling them. But
they have online communications and they want to see, especially
(25:12):
from a hardliner's overseas, praise for these attacks, and then
that's an encouragement to them as well, because they're bought
into this idea that they are they are warriors for
a righteous cause and that they become martyrs. Actually that's
the most glorious thing that can happen to them. So yeah,
we're likely to see more of this, It's impossible to
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say how much more. And really what you're hoping for
is the situations that we've seen so far. And I
know we saw a major loss of life that's terrible,
and you know his family, you know, have now had
that that horrific, that horrific situation fall upon them. But
these are small scale attacks. If you're looking at casualty figures.
(25:58):
If if you can keep it small, you're doing a
pretty good job because you're not going to be able
to stop them all, you're not going to be able
to find them all before they act. If you can
manage to prevent this from becoming an attack where you know,
dozens of people are killed, scores are maimed and wounded,
and that's what we're going to be fighting against now.
Because also any jihadi watching what's going on knows Iran
(26:23):
and Ron's got nothing to hit us back with militarily.
So the only payback if you will from people who
are sympathetic to the MOLAS is going to be through
some kind of a terrorist deck. So you got this
guy at Old Dominion. This this is crazy, Clay, I
don't think we mentioned this. He this is the Old
Dominion shooter. His name was was Mohammed by Lord Jaloh
(26:46):
guy's name is Mohammed shack cut number five. Here here
he is rather, here is the identification by the FBI
of this guy, saying that he was arrested in twenty
sixteen for report and pleaded guilty to provide material support
to ISIS play five.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
FBI is now the lead investigative agency investigating this as
an act of terrorism. The shooter has been identified as
Mohammed Baylor Jallo. In twenty sixteen, Jallo was arrested and
pled guilty for attempting to provide material support to ISLE
(27:27):
now known as ISIS. Jaalo was sentenced to prison in
October twenty seventeen and was released from prison in twenty
twenty four.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Clay, this guy was released. He wanted to give He
was trying to plot a mass casualty attack years ago
against Americans. And now we find out that this guy
got released apparently got released early. That's what I read
at least, And you have to wonder why are these
(27:58):
people in the country in the first.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Well, I'm sorry, why are we releasing people who are
pled guilty or found guilty of terrorist sympathy in the
United States early? How are we not immediately denaturalizing And again,
I am not an expert in immigration law, but maybe
we need to focus more on if you're arrested for
(28:22):
terrorism in this country and you have previously been granted citizenship,
maybe we need to re examine whether you should be
allowed to stay in the country.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I'm just I'm just gonna toss that out there. And
one of these guys, sorry he out early, buck. One
of these guys was a naturalized citizen. I don't that
was actually the other Jihati terrorist. I think this guy
I'm getting them. Let me see this guy. This guy
actually served in the Was he in the National Guard? Yeah?
(28:52):
This guy was a Yeah, he served time in federal prison,
early release, member of the Virginia Nation, former Margenia former
member of the Virginia National Guard. And oh no, yeah, no, sorry, yeah,
he's a naturalized Yes, sorry, I'm right, he's a naturalized
(29:13):
US citizen from Sierra Leon. The other guy is was
born in Lebanon. So we got foreigners for it's apparently
not that hard to become an American. You got these
foreigners who hate America, who want to kill Americans and
plot terror attacks here that we're making Americans, we're really
doing that.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
We need to examine how we are giving citizenship. And
if you are convicted of providing terroristic support for terrorists
and you were at some point naturalized, maybe we should
go back and re examine the process by which you
became a citizen. Just an idea that seems very rational
to me who was opposed to this. We'll talk about this.
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we look forward to it. But Buck we come back
at the top of the next hour. I want to
kind of set the table here for a story that
I think is really supremely significant, and that is the
fleeing from high tax states to low tax states from
people with income who are able to do it. And
I want to set the table here Washington, and this
(32:28):
is going on across the country in blue states. Washington
State is saying that they are now going to tax
anyone that makes a million dollars or more at nine
point nine percent.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
What does that do? Buck?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
We mentioned this on the air, but I think it's significant.
Howard Schultz, who is the founder of Starbucks, he is
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probably the most successful coffee entrepreneur in the history of
the world. He's moving to Miami. You also have Jeff
Bezos who left Seattle and moved to Miami, both because
(33:09):
of the tax situation in Washington state, And Buck, do
you know this story? I actually think the entrepreneurial story
of Jeff Bezos is a fascinating one. One reason why
Bezos decided to make Amazon based in Washington was because
it was a low tax state. And that's a little
bit surprising to some people because you think of the
(33:29):
West Coast and you think of California high tax, you
think of Oregon as high tax. Washington was a very
low tax state, and so Jeff Bezos went across the
country started Amazon in Seattle. Would you agree with me
on this, Buck, The three biggest companies, maybe there's four
that people think of off the top of their heads
when they think of Washington State an entrepreneurial success. I
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would say, you think of Amazon, you think of Microsoft,
you think of Starbucks. Maybe you also think of Boeing.
I would say, maybe that's the four that come to
mind immediately. I know there are others, but those that
come to mind immediately. It feels pretty significant to me
that both Jeff Bezos and Howard Schultz have decided we
can't live here anymore, and so they have decided to
(34:16):
move from Washington to Miami. Also simultaneously, Zoron Mamdani is
proposing that if you live in New York City and
you die, you have to pay a fifty percent city
state estate tax buck at seven hundred and fifty k
(34:38):
in income. Now, they're also saying that they want to
have a huge mansion tax on anyone who buys a
property for five hundred k or more in New York City.
You know this better than most. What does a five
hundred k property? That is that that sounds like a
lot maybe to some people in different parts of the country.
(34:59):
What do you you get for five hundred k in
New York City?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
It's incredible, Actually, it's like a marvel of engineering. Five
hundred thousand dollars in Manhattan will get you three hundred
square feet where you can sleep, shower, and cook without
actually moving. It's like you're in a little pod. It's
like a bed with a showerhead above it and a
toilet that you roll over to. That's what five hundred
(35:23):
thousand dollars gets you in Manhattan. Unfortunately, it is rough.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
So the idea they're calling this a mansion tax. First
of all, I think the average home in America now
is four hundred and fifty K. Team, will you look
that up nationwide? I know it varies depending on where
you live, but I think the average home cost in
America now is somewhere in the neighborhood of five hundred
and fifty k. That's the average. I know people buy
more or less, but I think the average. So even
(35:48):
calling it a mansion tax nationwide would not reflect what
reality actually is. I think there's a lot of you
that live in homes that cost four hundred thousand dollars
and you're like, five hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
This is not a mansion New York City.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
What Buck just said about what you get for five
hundred k is basically a closet and for them to
be taxing the people that have the ability to make
money in New York City, I don't understand why anybody
would stay. And we're going to hit this in earnest
because I do think it's a big story and I
think it is transforming much of the country as highly
(36:25):
successful people in blue cities and states are finally done
with what they see coming get out while you can,
and I think a lot of the richest and smartest
people are getting out while they can. We'll talk about
that when we come back. We'll take more of your talkbacks.
Thank you for hanging out with us. Fourteen hours up,
fifteenth hour, Next of the week on Klayan Buck
The second hour of Clay and Buck goes right. Now
we're joined by Steve Hilton. He's running for governor in California. Steve,
always great to have you our friend, But we got
to dive into something before we get into all the
policy and all the seriousness. It seems that you, sir,
are sporting a Clay Travis style beard, and I just
(00:22):
want to say that the people of America have spoken.
They are fans of your salt and pepper beard. I'm
a slightly different generation than you and Clay, so my
beard doesn't quite have the gravitas of all that silver
quite yet, but I think it looks very distinguished on
you and Clay. And so I'm a proponent.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Okay. So I got to tell you the story, and
it's got a good ending. So it's totally accidental. We're
away for Thanksgiving last November, and I was just lazy
and I didn't shave. And the first day back, I
had some really early TV hit like Fox and Friends
or something, and I thought I just didn't have the
time or the energy to shave. As I went on,
(01:04):
assuming i'd get all this feedback saying you're so scruffy,
why didn't you clean up quite the opposite. A bunch
of nice messages about the beard, which really wasn't a beard.
At that point, I thought I'd tried it out on
the road in California. I took a poll at every
event that I did, overwhelmingly positive. And here and then
there are two moments that I thought I gotta stick
(01:26):
with this. Number One, I did Don Junior's podcast, and
you know, I've known Don from many years, and he
came on on the zoom and the first thing he
said was, hey, man, love the Maga beard. So I thought,
I don't know, is that a thing, the Maga Beard.
And then here's the one that I think you'll enjoy.
I just got a text from a good friend of
mine who's supporting me, a legend James Woods, the legendary
(01:49):
James Woods texted me last week and said, this is it.
It gives you exactly the right amount of gravitas. I
really think you can win this now. So it's staying.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
You're like the Doseki's guy with a British accent. So
I think that this is this is a strong there's
a strong play for you. We support it. But now
let's get into this because we've talked about the governor thing.
We're going to talk you about that more. You got
to tell us what's going on here with the most
recent fraud revelations in your state. Obviously, all the Democrats
(02:20):
in charge obviously knew, some asleep at the wheeler probably
you know, doesn't even care about the fraud hospices. What
do we know about the hospice fraud.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Well, the first thing to bear in minded this is
not neglect or incompetence. This is corruption. Because the reason
that all this fraud has gone on in California and
our estimate, So remember, just to take a few steps back.
I set up last year in the wake of the
Minnesota revelations a whistleblower line here in California called califoraud
(02:50):
dot com. We've had thousands of tips coming in, and
then earlier this year we set up cal Doge, which
is now up and running. Obviously, we're not elected yet,
so it's not an official thing, but you've got many
volunteers going through the books finding the fraud and we're
publishing these fraud reports. And one of the main areas
that we got tips for was in this medical space
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because it's just huge amounts of money. It's and the
reason it's corrupt is if you look at the donations
to Democrat politicians in California and you look at the categories,
and Gavin Newsom is a useful proxy. Here's to be
running statewide in California for sixteen years. The number one
category of his donors government unions number two, try lawyers
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number three, private sector unions number four, healthcare, healthcare don't
they're making money off of this, and they are, And
Gavin Newsom is the puppet of these people who are
doing the fraud. And that's why this goes on. It's
not neglect, it's not incompetence, it's corruption. And the scale
of it is just unbelievable. And the brazen, shameless theft
(03:52):
of our money to put in the pockets of these
scammers that then give money donations to Gavin us and
the other Democrats. It's just unbelievable. But the good news
is we'll be now and does not just ask you
had various people now really investigating it. You've got the
Federal Action JD leading that it's really going to come
to an end, especially when I'm elected in November, and
(04:13):
we're going to just stop all this in its tracks.
Last point I'd make is I'm putting together a slate,
a team of candidates running with me statewide in California
that's never been done before. In the governor's race. A
very important position is the state Controller. And the state
Controller has the power to audit every organization receiving state
money and to turn off the supply of money literally
to stop the money flowing. And there's a fantastic guy
(04:35):
called Herb Morgan running with me. We're working very closely together.
If you know, we can really change this big time
if we're elected this year.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Okay, last hour, I saw that this moron, Eric Swolwell
is right now potentially going to be favored as the Democrat.
I don't know what I'll have to do if you
were running against Alex Eric Swalwell, but there has to
be forty IQ points at least that separate you from
(05:05):
Eric Swalwell. I want to put out the call up
and down with the breadth of California right now. The
election is when when can people start voting for you?
And I think again a lot of people don't understand
this California has. I think it's called a jungle primary. Right,
we're the top two regardless of party advance. So explain
(05:26):
all the rules, tell people how to vote. What do
they need to know, because we are getting close to
ballots being headed out.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Exactly right, Clay, thank you. Listen, this top two system
is ridiculous. Obviously we should get rid of it. Book
we got it, and so we got to play by
these rules. For the last year or so, you've seen
a kind of clown car situation on the Democrat side,
nine or ten candidates, none of all of them incredibly
unimpressive machine politicians and hacks and ridiculous people, and they've
(05:55):
been dividing up the vote. And as a result of that,
in a lot of these polls, I've been leading and
there's one other Republican who will get to in a second.
Often that we've been the top two. But I said
all along it's not going to stay that way because
the Democrat machine is going to get behind one of
their candids. The unions, in particularly the government unions, they
will want their puppet that they control, and that is
(06:16):
what is happening right now, and that's why you're seeing
Eric Swolwell move up and up. And I think that
that will continue. The big unions are going to be
endorsing in the next few weeks. The teachers, the SCIU,
the Nancy Pelosi machine is going to get behind him,
I think, and so I think you're going to see
him really advance now. Right now, as of this morning,
the Real Clear Politics average of all the polls in California,
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there's a bunch of these Democrats below seven percent. You've
got Katie Porter at ten percent. You've got Tom Steyer
and the other Republican Chad Bianco at eleven percent, Eric
Swollwell at thirteen, and I'm on fifteen and a half.
So that's the good news. On the average, I'm still ahead.
But you're right. There was a poll this week first
time that showed Eric Swollwell in the lead, a real pole.
(07:00):
It was a proper serious pole, and so we got
to take this seriously. The election is June, the second
ballots go out May the second. We're really weeks away
now from this election kicking off. The most important thing
to understand is that if we split the Republican vote,
it's not only that you're going to get Eric Swowell.
(07:20):
You're probably going to get Eric Swowell and Tom Steyer,
the billionaire climate fanatic. He has already spent seventy million
dollars just in the last few weeks, a few months,
and that's moving him up in the polls. And because
of this top two system, you don't need a huge
percentage to make it into the general election because there's
(07:41):
so many candidates. So I can see a situation where
we've got, you know, like, I don't know what to
even make of that Stier versus Swallow, what a joke.
But if you get behind one Republican candidate and I'm
the leading Republican and there's a lot of issues with
the other guy, Chad Bianco, he took a knee for BLM,
he says crazy things on immigration. He's basically for amnesty
(08:03):
on immigration, you can't have him. And so this is
the moment for every Republican to get serious about this.
Get behind the leading Republican candidate, and then I will
be guaranteed to be in the top two, because that's
how the math will work. And then it's a whole
new fight and we'll take it to whoever the Democrats
put up.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Speaking of Steve Hilton, he's running for governor and he's
telling us all about how this race is critical but
also winnable in his estimation in his maths and steven
to that end, I saw a lot of people are
focused in on gas prices right now for obvious reasons.
But your state is always the punching bag. It's you
know it for the rest of the country of you
(08:43):
see how high the gas prices are there. So yes,
Iran has everyone oh my gosh, what are gas prices
going to do? I think it's going to be fine,
by the way, but everyone's a little freaked out.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
And then in California it's, well, your gas price is
it's like there's always an oil embargo somewhere because California's
gas prices are crazy. You recently said to gas execs,
don't give up on the state of California. I don't
even think people realize that California has an oil and
gas industry. Can you speak to that a bit? And
what you're hoping could happen if you become governor.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It's an amazing situation. Again, just the lunacy of these
democrat ideologues, these climate fanatics incredible. First of all, let's
look at the numbers. So the temporary spike, and it's
obviously temporary. Everyone knows that. In the gas price since
the Iran War, which is what about fifty cents average nationwide?
Right in California, you look at the average, it's two
(09:38):
dollars high the rest of the country. Such a very
simple way of putting it, gavin you. Some of the
Democrats are four times as destructive as war in the
Middle East for California's when it comes to gas. The
point about California is we have abundant oil and gas
reserves in our state, mainly in Kern County, but now
(09:58):
huge reserve has been discovered in California. Right, I'm sure
there's a there's a reserve there which is considered to
be the second biggest in America, the niche behind the
Permian Basin. We have massive oil and gas reserves right now,
and we are importing in California nearly eighty percent of
(10:19):
the oil that we use. It used to be the opposite.
Most of our oil and gas we produced in state.
So what are these insane democrats now doing in the
name of climate They are shipping oil halfway round the
world on giant super tankers, spewing out carbon emissions because
they think it's part of their war on fossil fuels.
We're not using any less fossil fuel in California, we're
(10:41):
just importing it. It's insane, and that's the reason that
the refineries are closing down. Because the refineries were built
to refine California crude. The supply of that has been
dropping year by year with their war on the industry
here in California. Now the insane situe. I'm just with
a group of energy industry folks this morning, and now
(11:02):
there's even the insane situation that the small amount that
we're relatively that we're now producing, it used to go
in pipelines from Kern County to the refineries in the
Bay Area and in Near La. One of those refineries
has now one of those pipelines has now shut down
because there's not enough oil to justify the business. So
now what's happening. The remainder that we're producing is going
(11:24):
on trucks, so they again in the name of climate,
instead of a nice clean pipeline, we're now trucking it.
It's so insane. Now, as governor, I could reverse all
of that because it's all being done through these bureaucratic
agencies CARB, the California Air Resources Board, the Energy Commission, CALGEM,
the Geologic and Energy Management Agency, and it's very straightforward.
(11:46):
As governor, I will end the war on fossil fuels
as long as we are using oil and gas in California.
We're going to use California oil and gas. That will
keep the refineries open, bring down the cost of import,
and we're going to get to three dollar gas in California.
That's the first pledge I made on the campaign trip.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I think this is so important and why I think
again everybody out there listening to us right now needs
to go vote for you and get you into the
final two. Buck and I have talked a lot about
the legacy of California. You grew up in England, Brut
grew up in New York. I grew up in Tennessee.
I remember the first time I ever got to go
(12:24):
to California. I was twenty one years old. I think
I had a college roommate from California. I went to
go visit, and I was so excited to step foot
on soil in California because of the legacy of awesomeness
that we had grown up with buckets, talked about this
in New York. California, this golden shining state on a hill.
(12:44):
It's lost. You could help to return that. But I
think your experience growing up and what California meant to
you still can resonate with so many Californians.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
On one hundred percent, Claire, I love the way you
put that. Look, the California dream is a real thing.
You know this, and it was in my imagination too,
like even before we moved here with my wife and
my sons, you know, whenever it was twenty twelve, we
moved here back in the day. I mean, people know
me from Fox obviously, but you know, most of my
career has been in business, and I worked for a
while in the government in the UK for David Cameron,
(13:19):
and when I was put in together the policy plan
before he became Prime Minister in twenty ten, one of
the Spectator magazine in the UK wrote a piece about me.
This is like twenty odd years ago, and they said,
and the title of the piece was a cover story
California Dreaming, and the theme of it was Steve Hilton,
David Cameron's policy guru wants to make the US inspired
(13:42):
by California, wants to make the UK more like California. Well,
who would want to do that today? I mean, that's
how far we've fallen. But the point is that that
idea of California. Sometimes I put it like this, California
means to America, what America means to the world. It
represents all the great virtues and beauty of our nation,
(14:02):
optimism and energy and dynamism and the kind of rebel
spirit and doing your own thing that's been crushed by
these years of bureaucratic, bloated, nanny state, bureaucratic government, and
the taxes and the spending and the bloat and the
waste and the regulations crushing the soul and spirit of California.
But it won't take much to really get back to
(14:26):
that beautiful California dream, because we've just got to stop
the government from doing all these insane things, and then
people and entrepreneurs will take care of the rest of it.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Steve, bring home the w in this governor's race, and
don't touch that beard, all right, all right, you got it,
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Podcasts, and welcome back in play Buck Sexton Show. Friday
edition of the program will take some of your calls,
lots of your talkbacks. Buck, you knew this was going
to happen, but I do want to share the way
that the attack on the synagogue in Michigan is being covered.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
This is ABC News.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Have you seen this headline yet? The mayor of Dearborn
Heights said the suspect involved in the shooting and vehicle
ramming attack at a Detroit area synagogue quote had lost
several members of his own family in an Israeli attack
on their home in Lebanon. They are justifying a terror
attack based on what happened to this guy allegedly and
(16:39):
his family in Lebanon. He decided that he was just
going to randomly attack a synagogue in America. And my
question for everybody out there is, maybe I've missed all
the people who had Jewish relatives that were murdered on
October seventh and just drove cars loaded with explosives into mosques,
or maybe that's happening all the time. Obviously this is ridiculous,
but understand the framing that we're going to get.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
The media is so deeply, deeply indoctrinated with this stuff
that it's really hard to get them to think about
things in any other way. They view this all as ultimately,
first and foremost racial. They even view the Islam and
Judaism thing as racial, not religious, because they have that's
(17:27):
the framework that are politics, and the left in America
puts things through first and foremost, and so Clay, there's
no reasoning with them. It's these were brown people that
did these two attacks, these two terror attacks, actually the
three well, one guy was black. These are brown people
that these two terror attacks. Have to find a way
to be as sympathetic as possible to the attacker.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Here.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
That's the media's attitude about it, because brown people are
victims as long as they're attacking non brown people. And
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(18:57):
with our friend Steve Holton about what's going on in
calif Or. We wanted to talk a bit here about
the aftermath of these two terror attacks that happened, both
of them with Jie hottist intent. I think that's pretty clear,
although some of the media don't know. We may never
(19:18):
know them. We may never know the real motive. This
is now beyond parody. When you have these news anchors.
Who's some guy you know, his name could be Mohammed
Mohammad wearing an iHeart isis T shirt. Can you run
into some place start shooting, yelling Alahu walk bar. He
could have written out a long confession beforehand, saying I'm
(19:41):
doing this on behalf of the Islamic State. You'll still
have a CNN anchor who will pop up and be like,
but can we really know? Can we really know the
motive behind this? And if it gets too tough for
them eventually, what they'll start doing is running panel discussions
about how the Islamic State is not Islamic. You know
that That's the other thing they like to do. This
(20:01):
is this has nothing to do with Islam, Like, well,
these guys seem to think it does. So there's that
this is a common We went through this clay in
the whole Gwatt era, which was really the Bush and
Obama years, predominantly eight years of Bush, eight years of Obama,
where we just had this was the argument always all
(20:22):
the time, and you had Democrats bending over backwards, bending
over backwards, to make sure that no one actually thought
there was any connection between Islamic terrorism and Islamic anything. Remember,
the Obama administration tried to change the GWATT, which is
what we still call it now those of us who remember,
which was the Global War on Terror, which was a
(20:43):
bushism they wanted to call it. I don't remember the
full acronym, but it was something like overseas contingency operations
against ideological extremists, and it really was something like that.
It was some absurd you know. The acronym was like
abaca jabber or something, and it was really long and
was like, we're not going to do that. Remember also,
Obama wanted to call it ISL instead of ISIS. Everyone
(21:04):
calls it ISIS now that Obama's always icele, it's IL.
We went through all this kind of nonsense. We understand
what's going on here. We understand why these people are
attacking in terms of what their ideology is and what
their worldview is, and there's going to be more of this.
What we are seeing though, is vigilance, taking security in
(21:26):
your own hands, acting quickly, getting off the X, you know, intervening,
taking action can make it huge, can make a huge difference,
and in the case of the synagogue, no good guy casualties.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
So we know five attackers so far, if I'm not mistaken, right,
five different Muslim fundamentalist terror attackers. Two in New York City,
one in Austin, one in Virginia, and one in in
the Detroit area. Here's a question for you, Buck, five
have acted. What is the number of people you think
(22:02):
that are either susceptible or willing to engage in acts
of violence that are currently in this country. This is
what I spend a lot of time thinking about, because
everything is a probabilistic analysis. Mostly these are.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Going to be young men.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Mostly these are going to be young men without families, right,
that have been polluted by the idea that the best
thing they can do is give up their life in
a jee hottest attack. There's five we know in just
the last two weeks. Is it a thousand, is it
two thousand? Is it six thousand? How many people do
you think in America right now are willing on some
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level to do this if the situation arises.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Having worked during a heightened time of Islamic extremism in
one of those offices, Clay and obviously the biggest one,
which was New York. You're at a minimum right now.
I would assume that the FBI, elements of DHS, state
police that have counter terrorism elements, of fusion centers. You're
(23:01):
talking about hundreds of cases where the people who are
close to it are saying, this could go off at
you know, this could be action at any moment. It could.
It could become an actionable plot. And if they haven't
gotten them on a criminal on some kind of a
criminal violation before, the best they can do is just
(23:23):
keep eyes on. That's where we are, by the way,
I said at least hundreds. It could be in the
low thousands, but that's where we are. Okay, So that's interesting.
Here's the second question for you. We know, unfortunately, in
two different circumstances, suicide's cluster because people see this is
awful for people out there who have teenagers, particularly if
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one kid commits suicide. Unfortunately, there are often echoes of
that suicidal act because it puts in people's minds the
idea of following through.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
This is data. This is what it shows. Unfortunately, when
we see school shootings, there are often cluster impacts from
those school shootings because people who are of unsound mind
or potentially susceptible to acting, are more likely to do it.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Buck, are you afraid?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Similarly, now that we've had five different jihattis to act
out that even people out there that are on the
fringe of whether or not to do this become more
likely to act because they see this having happened. Is
that a thing where when you see, like with suicide
and with copy.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Shooting act, is that basically it's like a copycat Yeah,
of course. And also you get people who see this, uh,
these actions and based upon you got to remember, they're
playing to a very different audience, if you will, sort
of in a way, in a manner of speaking, than
the rest of us. You know, they'll see and they'll
(24:50):
be familiar with some you know, gi hotti chat rooms
things like that, uh signal chats, I mean things that
are I think maybe they use teleg more so. I
don't know where the gihaties are hanging out these days.
I'm not in that game anymore of surveilling them. But
they have online communications and they want to see, especially
(25:12):
from a hardliner's overseas, praise for these attacks, and then
that's an encouragement to them as well, because they're bought
into this idea that they are they are warriors for
a righteous cause and that they become martyrs. Actually that's
the most glorious thing that can happen to them. So yeah,
we're likely to see more of this, It's impossible to
(25:33):
say how much more. And really what you're hoping for
is the situations that we've seen so far. And I
know we saw a major loss of life that's terrible,
and you know his family, you know, have now had
that that horrific, that horrific situation fall upon them. But
these are small scale attacks. If you're looking at casualty figures.
(25:58):
If if you can keep it small, you're doing a
pretty good job because you're not going to be able
to stop them all, you're not going to be able
to find them all before they act. If you can
manage to prevent this from becoming an attack where you know,
dozens of people are killed, scores are maimed and wounded,
and that's what we're going to be fighting against now.
Because also any jihadi watching what's going on knows Iran
(26:23):
and Ron's got nothing to hit us back with militarily.
So the only payback if you will from people who
are sympathetic to the MOLAS is going to be through
some kind of a terrorist deck. So you got this
guy at Old Dominion. This this is crazy, Clay, I
don't think we mentioned this. He this is the Old
Dominion shooter. His name was was Mohammed by Lord Jaloh
(26:46):
guy's name is Mohammed shack cut number five. Here here
he is rather, here is the identification by the FBI
of this guy, saying that he was arrested in twenty
sixteen for report and pleaded guilty to provide material support
to ISIS play five.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
FBI is now the lead investigative agency investigating this as
an act of terrorism. The shooter has been identified as
Mohammed Baylor Jallo. In twenty sixteen, Jallo was arrested and
pled guilty for attempting to provide material support to ISLE
(27:27):
now known as ISIS. Jaalo was sentenced to prison in
October twenty seventeen and was released from prison in twenty
twenty four.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Clay, this guy was released. He wanted to give He
was trying to plot a mass casualty attack years ago
against Americans. And now we find out that this guy
got released apparently got released early. That's what I read
at least, And you have to wonder why are these
(27:58):
people in the country in the first.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Well, I'm sorry, why are we releasing people who are
pled guilty or found guilty of terrorist sympathy in the
United States early? How are we not immediately denaturalizing And again,
I am not an expert in immigration law, but maybe
we need to focus more on if you're arrested for
(28:22):
terrorism in this country and you have previously been granted citizenship,
maybe we need to re examine whether you should be
allowed to stay in the country.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I'm just I'm just gonna toss that out there. And
one of these guys, sorry he out early, buck. One
of these guys was a naturalized citizen. I don't that
was actually the other Jihati terrorist. I think this guy
I'm getting them. Let me see this guy. This guy
actually served in the Was he in the National Guard? Yeah?
(28:52):
This guy was a Yeah, he served time in federal prison,
early release, member of the Virginia Nation, former Margenia former
member of the Virginia National Guard. And oh no, yeah, no, sorry, yeah,
he's a naturalized Yes, sorry, I'm right, he's a naturalized
(29:13):
US citizen from Sierra Leon. The other guy is was
born in Lebanon. So we got foreigners for it's apparently
not that hard to become an American. You got these
foreigners who hate America, who want to kill Americans and
plot terror attacks here that we're making Americans, we're really
doing that.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
We need to examine how we are giving citizenship. And
if you are convicted of providing terroristic support for terrorists
and you were at some point naturalized, maybe we should
go back and re examine the process by which you
became a citizen. Just an idea that seems very rational
to me who was opposed to this. We'll talk about this.
(29:51):
We'll take your calls to your talkbacks as well. Friday Edition.
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we look forward to it. But Buck we come back
at the top of the next hour. I want to
kind of set the table here for a story that
I think is really supremely significant, and that is the
fleeing from high tax states to low tax states from
people with income who are able to do it. And
I want to set the table here Washington, and this
(32:28):
is going on across the country in blue states. Washington
State is saying that they are now going to tax
anyone that makes a million dollars or more at nine
point nine percent.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
What does that do? Buck?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
We mentioned this on the air, but I think it's significant.
Howard Schultz, who is the founder of Starbucks, he is
the coffee company you just started me talking about Crockett,
probably the most successful coffee entrepreneur in the history of
the world. He's moving to Miami. You also have Jeff
Bezos who left Seattle and moved to Miami, both because
(33:09):
of the tax situation in Washington state, And Buck, do
you know this story? I actually think the entrepreneurial story
of Jeff Bezos is a fascinating one. One reason why
Bezos decided to make Amazon based in Washington was because
it was a low tax state. And that's a little
bit surprising to some people because you think of the
(33:29):
West Coast and you think of California high tax, you
think of Oregon as high tax. Washington was a very
low tax state, and so Jeff Bezos went across the
country started Amazon in Seattle. Would you agree with me
on this, Buck, The three biggest companies, maybe there's four
that people think of off the top of their heads
when they think of Washington State an entrepreneurial success. I
(33:52):
would say, you think of Amazon, you think of Microsoft,
you think of Starbucks. Maybe you also think of Boeing.
I would say, maybe that's the four that come to
mind immediately. I know there are others, but those that
come to mind immediately. It feels pretty significant to me
that both Jeff Bezos and Howard Schultz have decided we
can't live here anymore, and so they have decided to
(34:16):
move from Washington to Miami. Also simultaneously, Zoron Mamdani is
proposing that if you live in New York City and
you die, you have to pay a fifty percent city
state estate tax buck at seven hundred and fifty k
(34:38):
in income. Now, they're also saying that they want to
have a huge mansion tax on anyone who buys a
property for five hundred k or more in New York City.
You know this better than most. What does a five
hundred k property? That is that that sounds like a
lot maybe to some people in different parts of the country.
(34:59):
What do you you get for five hundred k in
New York City?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
It's incredible, Actually, it's like a marvel of engineering. Five
hundred thousand dollars in Manhattan will get you three hundred
square feet where you can sleep, shower, and cook without
actually moving. It's like you're in a little pod. It's
like a bed with a showerhead above it and a
toilet that you roll over to. That's what five hundred
(35:23):
thousand dollars gets you in Manhattan. Unfortunately, it is rough.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
So the idea they're calling this a mansion tax. First
of all, I think the average home in America now
is four hundred and fifty K. Team, will you look
that up nationwide? I know it varies depending on where
you live, but I think the average home cost in
America now is somewhere in the neighborhood of five hundred
and fifty k. That's the average. I know people buy
more or less, but I think the average. So even
(35:48):
calling it a mansion tax nationwide would not reflect what
reality actually is. I think there's a lot of you
that live in homes that cost four hundred thousand dollars
and you're like, five hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
This is not a mansion New York City.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
What Buck just said about what you get for five
hundred k is basically a closet and for them to
be taxing the people that have the ability to make
money in New York City, I don't understand why anybody
would stay. And we're going to hit this in earnest
because I do think it's a big story and I
think it is transforming much of the country as highly
(36:25):
successful people in blue cities and states are finally done
with what they see coming get out while you can,
and I think a lot of the richest and smartest
people are getting out while they can. We'll talk about
that when we come back. We'll take more of your talkbacks.
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