June 8, 2026 • 37 mins
In Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts deliver a wide-ranging and energetic discussion blending politics, pop culture, patriotism, and election integrity, highlighted by a major guest appearance from Vanilla Ice (Rob Van Winkle). This hour centers on themes of American unity, cultural nostalgia, media polarization, and ongoing election controversies, making it a compelling segment for listeners interested in conservative talk radio, current events, and cultural commentary. The hour begins with an in-depth interview with Vanilla Ice, who joins the program to discuss his participation in the upcoming America 250 celebration, a patriotic event marking the nation’s milestone anniversary. He reflects on how American culture has shifted from the unity of the 1980s and 1990s to what he describes as a more divided and politically charged era. Emphasizing patriotism, positivity, and national pride, Vanilla Ice encourages Americans—especially younger generations—to reconnect with shared values and avoid the negativity he attributes to modern media and online culture. He also stresses that entertainers should focus on bringing people together rather than engaging in political debates, reinforcing a recurring theme of depoliticizing entertainment. The conversation also explores his rapid rise to fame with Ice Ice Baby, offering insight into overnight celebrity culture in the 1990s, as well as his personal experiences navigating fame, American identity, and generational change. Vanilla Ice shares supportive comments about President Donald Trump, recalling personal interactions and praising Trump’s decision to serve in public office despite personal risk and wealth. Throughout the interview, he reiterates a message of unity over division, positioning music and cultural events like America 250 as opportunities to bridge ideological gaps. Following the interview, Clay and Buck expand on the idea that entertainment and politics have become overly intertwined, arguing that in previous decades celebrities were less vocal about political views, which allowed for broader cultural unity. They contrast that era with today’s environment, where celebrity activism and political messaging are more prominent and, in their view, contribute to national division. The discussion then shifts to breaking political issues, focusing heavily on Los Angeles elections and ballot counting delays, a topic framed within broader concerns about election integrity and mail-in voting systems. The hosts react to statements from President Trump questioning the legitimacy of prolonged vote counting in California, suggesting parallels to the 2020 election controversies. Listener calls from across the country—particularly from California and Tennessee—add firsthand accounts of urban governance challenges, homelessness, crime, and alleged irregularities with mail-in ballots, including claims of ballots being sent to outdated or incorrect addresses. Clay and Buck analyze these concerns in the context of Democratic vs. Republican voting systems, arguing that practices like ballot harvesting and widespread mail-in voting disproportionately benefit Democrats in densely populated areas such as Los Angeles, New York City, and Philadelphia. They debate whether structural advantages, rather than outright fraud, explain voting outcomes in heavily blue regions, while still advocating for stricter voting rules, including in-person voting requirements. The hosts also explore broader urban political dynamics, discussing why residents in cities like Los Angeles and New York continue to support Democratic leadership despite ongoing issues such as crime, homelessness, and high taxes. They attribute this to a mix of lifestyle advantages, cultural appeal, and entrenched political identities, describing a disconnect between policy outcomes and voter behavior. Throughout Hour 2, Clay and Buck maintain a mix of serious political analysis and lighter cultural commentary, including listener interactions and humorous callbacks to 1990s nostalgia. The hour closes with continued anticipation of upcoming interviews and political developments, reinforcing the show’s blend of news, opinion, and entertainment. Overall, Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a comprehensive look at American culture, politics, and media narratives, with strong emphasis on patriotism, election transparency, and the evolving role of entertainment in political discourse—key topics for audiences following conservative news, U.S. politics, and cultural trends in 2026.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back our number two Clay and Buck. It is
time to stop collaborate and listen. Ice is back with
a brand new guest spot here on the Clay and
Buck Show. That is Vanilla Ice, who I believe is
still set to perform at the America to fifty festival.
(00:28):
We are excited to have him. He's down in the
great state of Florida. I want to start before we
dive into America to fifty with you. You have been a
pop culture figure for a long time now.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Would you have ever believed that it would become.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Popular to not like America regardless of whether you're a Democrat,
Republican or an independent. For many of us who grew
up in the eighties and the nineties, it was regardless
of what your politics were. You thought America was the
greatest country that had ever existed in the history of
the world. Many of us still believe that, but lots don't.
(01:07):
Would you have ever seen the trajectory that we are
on occurring?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Never never could predict this, And I feel sorry for
the thirty and unders. You know they're being pulled right
and left and don't understand the history and how it all.
You know, we were so American in the eighties and
the nineties, and I feel.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Like the computers have just ruined the world if you
really ask me, you know, I just want to live
in the nineties, man. But we were all united. I
think we were all watching Star Wars. I think we
were all growing up to the Ninja Turtles.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I think we were all driving five point zeros and
ripping our back seats out and putting in sobloopers in
Blockbuster Video and all the great things about the.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Cheesiness of it and those Zeka.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Ricci pants man in Gerbos, And I mean, we all
united and didn't take anything too serious because it was
so cheesy.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
How could you. Everybody just cracked jokes about everything, and
the politics was one of them. And now everybody's taking
everything so serious, you know, and they've got these uh,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Know what they're called, man, I travel around everywhere, these
little pockets of hate or whatever they are around the
country that just kind of generate that on the thirty
and unders, And I feel sorry for him. Man.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
We did have it better as kids.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
We really did a quick quick question point of order here.
Do you prefer to be called Robert or mister Ice?
How do we how do we can we say Robert?
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Is that good?
Speaker 7 (02:32):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I respond either way, I preferred to as rob. It's
not as cool as Bada, but I yeah, either way,
whatever you want to say.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
I mean, it's it must it's amazing because you are
Clay and I are as much like give them a
hard time, roughly the same age. And so the phenomenon
of the the peak, if you will, of the vanilla
ice phenomenon is something that we lived through as kids.
And I remember being in school and and my Catholic
grammar school in New York City and people trying to
do your dance move like all the time. Man, I
(03:01):
mean there was a period of time there where everyone
was trying to do the Vanilla Ice moves. Clay doesn't
believe it, but I feel like I actually could probably
do some pretty good I've got some funky there's some
funky beats here. People would be surprised. But going back
to the present day for a moment, the two fifty
celebration people have been pulling out of this. It sounds
(03:22):
like because yes, they're worried. Maybe their manager says, oh,
it's political or something, even though it really is supposed
to be about the greatness of America. But also there's threats.
I mean, is that have you been have people been
getting crazy with that stuff with you? Or has that
not really been a factor in your two fiftieth celebration
preparation so far, I've been.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Taking heat from everybody and anything. But it's not about that.
I get a lot of love, and I think that's
the main thing. You know. I never cater to a hater.
I just say later. So the truth is, you got
to understand how love works. And smiles are contagious, man.
And this party is you know, everyone is invited.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
It's not made to be divided.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Musicians are made to bring people together, and I'm just
one of them. Man. I don't think anybody should take
this too serious.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I don't think it's fair on.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
The musicians to put them in a political platform that
they don't belong.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Just say kind of like almost like you know, and
no offense. I can only speak for myself, but for me,
I just shut up and play. I stayed in my lane.
I don't take anything too serious.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
If you book me I know I'm booked by some fans,
and I'm ready to go party with them. I don't
dissect who it is or what it is or anything
like that, because I stand for me the party of
the nineties.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I enjoy it, man. I don't take anything too serious.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I don't think you should take anything an entertainer says
too serious either.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I think you should just enjoy the entertainment. That's all
it is.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
When we go back to the nineties for a minute,
and I happen to think the nineties or the greatest
decade that has ever existed in the history of the world,
They're my favorite decade. I know there's people out there
who would argue eighties or nineties. If you need a
good dinner party debate, or you got buddies coming over,
Eighties versus nineties is a really fun debate. What was
(05:14):
it like for you to go from being completely unknown
to famous overnight. There's a great story I wonder if
it has any resonance with you that the cast of
the show Friends went out to dinner right before the
show debuted. I believe they were out in Las Vegas
and they were told, this is the last time you'll
(05:36):
ever be able to go into a restaurant and just
be a normal person. You're gonna become famous in the nineties.
You could really the eighties too, you could become famous overnight.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
What was that experience like for you?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I mean, amazing is a whirlwind and like you're in
a tornado and you know, it's only sixteen when I
wrote is I's Baby, man? And then you know, not
even a year later, they say do you want to
be you know, in the Ninja Turtles movie. I said yes,
and I would have paid them, and they paid me.
The great thing is is that, you know, I have
(06:15):
so many great memories of America and what made me
and I've always been patriotic. I always hold up the
flag and I always really really appreciate these soldiers out there,
you know.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
And that's the thing that these kids thirty and under,
I don't think they understand the history of the soldiers
and how we got our freedom.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I think that that maybe they just kind of confused
because they're taking right and left and there's so much
information out there and not enough love. And they got
to show love on both sides. Man. You know, I
don't vote, so it really don't matter what I have
to say about this, But as far as a musician,
I like to bring people together and this is our
country and.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I believe we're all one.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
And I don't like news channels dividing the country. I
don't like negativity anywhere. I just like you know, being
positive and folks on the cheesiness of you know, back
in the day and kind of carrying that over to
today to show these kids how great we really had it.
Because they're stuck playing Fortnite and stuff. They don't even
want to get out of the house. You know, it's
(07:13):
like we've got in trouble for not coming home on time.
It was a complete different, you know, childhood growing up
and riding skateboards and getting hurt and jumping bikes and.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Figuring things out on your own.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And now it's like everything has to be you know,
and I don't know where the AI is going. It's
going to be crazy with the entertainer. But for me,
the fame was amazing. It was a whirlwind. I went
through everything, ups and downs, and what doesn't kill you
makes you stronger man.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So you know, always say we are who we are
because of who we were. And even though I've got.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Some great stories on the front porch to tell you,
you know that I probably wouldn't wish my life on
my worst enemy.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
It's crazy, you.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Know, to go through that and everything and then you
have to separate it and figure out what your purpose
in life is, what you're meaning. And it's all about
those kids, man. I mean, I know you guys got kids.
I got four, so it's it's something. And I got
a seven year old all the way to a twenty
eight year old, so it's it's amazing to see them
different generations and all the you know, different things they experience.
(08:15):
And all I can tell my kids is just don't
take everything so serious.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Everything out there they want you to take it serious.
It's like you're the they got.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
The rabbit, and or you're the rabbit and they're the
freaking carrot and they're pulling it with a string and
you're chasing it.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Don't be that person. Stand up. Smile. You know I
come from when we.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Go to classroom, we would we would pledge allegiance to
the flag. You know, I can still do it today,
and that's you know, that shows you the pride of
being an American and proud to be born and raised here.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
It made me and I'm honored for this event. Man,
and and and who throws a better party than Trump? Man,
I've been to many of them. If anybody you want
to throw your party, you'd be that guy. He's the greatest.
I'm telling you.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, I've been to magic shows at mar A Lago,
I've been to all kinds of great things and.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
In the events that he's done, and they're super awesome.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
Man.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
So speaking American man, So Robert Robert van Winkle better
known to all of you as a Vanilla Ice and
and Rob. We really appreciate the call to patriotism and unity,
and I wish that that was reflected in the broader,
particularly the news media. But as you might have picked up, Rob,
(09:30):
some of them don't like Trump very much, and anything
that has anything to do with Trump they have nothing
but distain for and hatred for. So we would like
this to be more of a broad and patriotic celebration.
I know that you just want all Americans, really, all
people who want to celebrate America to show up when
you're doing this concert. I have to ask you, I'm
(09:50):
just so curious, what was the moment. I'm sure there
was a moment when you realized, oh, this is like
a big this is a real thing. Going back to
the the rocket ship that was Ice Ice Baby back
in the nineties, what was the moment when it went
from like, first of all, did you know when you
put down that track, were you like this is gonna
(10:12):
this is gonna crush it?
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Like this is gonna be amazing?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
And second of all, when did you realize, oh, this
isn't just a song that is going to do well
and help build my career, but little kids like Buck
Sexton at age whatever are gonna be with their friends
trying to do the Vanilla Ice dance moves in the
courtyard of their school, all across America, all fifty states. Like,
give me both of those moments if you would.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Man, it's amazing that this thing took on a life
of its own. When I did Ice Ized Baby, I
didn't know it was actually the B side when we
put it out, because back in the day we had
vinyl records and you had an A side and a
B side, So for DJs, they go, let me play
the A side first. It was play that funky music
on the A side, which did go to number six
on the billboard charts, and then they flipped it over
(10:57):
somewhere in Georgia and it went crazy in.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
The phone started ringing and everybody was Ice, Ice.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Baby, and it was just a movement and it became
an anthem of the nineties. You know everything about it.
You can go back and look at it, and it's
just you'll miss it. Man. The five point zeros are
so iconic for cruising the streets. We all had experiences
with them. If you didn't have one, and if you drag
raced them, you probably got beat by one. And everybody
kind of ripped out their back seats and we were
(11:24):
in the subwoofers. We had to curious screwdriver to tighten
the license plate. You know about this. We went to
Blockbuster for our movies. Man, we learned to dance the
cheesiest dance moves. Everything has changed into this world that
is I don't know, it's shaken up like a snow globe.
But I think I think if we just get back
to the word love, man, it'll come back together.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
And we can unite instead of dvite.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
It's something that musicians are, you know, capable of doing.
Bob Marley was really great at doing that and unifying
people from all different genres, all different race everything, And
you know, I just feel like we should all kind
of go back to that cheesiness of the nineties and
not take anything so serious, man, and get out there
and enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You mentioned President Trump in the fact you've known him
for a long time. You knew him many.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
President Trump was super famous in the eighties, the nineties,
the two thousand's, obviously the Apprentice, long before he ever
considered becoming a politician. Were you surprised that President Trump
decided to become involved in politics. What was your experience
you remember the first time you met him, What was
he like? What has your relationship been like with him?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
He's great, He's always been gracious. I live in Palm Beach.
He lives down the street.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I've gone over there, like I said, and seen some
really good, you know, parties and all kinds of great things,
met some great people and everything. And I would have
gone to any I would have gone to Barack Obama's
and played basketball with him. I kind of wanted to
do that back in the day because I thought he
was a cool dude.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I'm just a guy that gets along with everybody.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
You know, I'm not someone that takes any of this
political stuff serious. Trump was great, He's always been gracious.
And I know his family as well. They're super great kids,
super smart, super intelligent, and you know, to me, you
can put me on a chopping block.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I don't care, because I see it for what it is.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I mean, the guy could be in San Trape living
it up and he chose to be the president and
get shot at me. He's a billionaire. Why would you
want this job. I wouldn't want all that weight on
my shoulders.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
But as a person that don't vote, I don't.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Really have much of an opinion to say anything about
like my fans should follow.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
This or that. I don't do that. I don't think
that any entertainer should do that.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I think you should stay in your lane and just
enjoy bringing people together.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Man from everywhere. We're all one. The mediorite hits this planet.
Now we all die.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Figure it out, you know, Jurassic period, Jurassic period, Crusaceous period.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
It's going to happen again. We all need to unite
and unify man and get over.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
All of this.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
The headline the headline from his interview is Vanilla I says,
everyone be cool to each other because the asteroid is
gonna hit the planet any day now, so we're all good.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
We're all good, Vanilla. Mister Vanilla, thank you for being here. Rob.
We appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I went, I went from I went from Rob to
mister Vanilla.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Now.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Thank you for being with us, sir, and good luck
at the two fifty at celebration. It's gonna be it's
gonna be phenomenal. Some people are saying the greatest celebration
of all celebrations, thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
It would be fantastic. Goninja go, Happy Birthday America, thank.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
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Speaker 6 (15:36):
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Speaker 5 (15:45):
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We just
had Vanilla Ice rob Benwiggle with us. It's great guy,
by the way, great attitude, a lot of really interesting stories.
And for those of us who are fame of Age
of the nineties and mean that song, you hear that
be right away way and you start shaking those hips, Clay,
you start feeling, start feeling the moves coming up on you.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I will just say what he said there. I think
would be great if it would come back as the
standard entertainer perspective. I do think a big reason why
everybody got along in general. Not that everybody agreed, but
in the eighties and the nineties, most people didn't feel
compelled to tell you, if you were in entertainment, everything
(16:31):
they thought about politics. And you remember we played that
clip of the way that the Oscars reacted when they
first of all, they rescheduled the Oscars after Ronald Reagan
was shot, but the way that they behaved in the
crowd when they came out and said that Reagan was
gonna be okay. I know Reagan had a background in Hollywood,
(16:52):
and he was a former governor of California, but I
just think that, hey, I'm an entertainer, what do I know?
That used to be the standard. Now everybody feels compelled
in Hollywood to tell you everything that they think about
every political issue, and so do frankly a lot of athletes.
I feel like one reason people got along well in
the eighties and nineties was because we just said, hey,
(17:14):
we really don't care what celebrities think, and that was
better and healthier for the country to have a separate
place beyond culture that wasn't entirely political all the time.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Yes, indeed, and then as you heard there. He was
a teenage Mutan Ninja Turtles fan, so that was all real.
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We're going to take a bunch of calls here, a
lot of la election stuff that we need to get into.
Many of you in Los Angeles very frustrated with the
way this is being depicted, of course by the Democrat media,
(17:51):
who let's just say, if they could be the vote
counters slipping in some extras for the Democrats, they would
do it.
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Welcome back in Clay and Buck. We're gonna get to
some of your calls. President Trump has posted about the
vote count in California.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
We played the audio of him reacting to it.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Spencer Pratt just posted in the last few minutes, folks
were dealing with a fraction of a percentage point difference.
There's still hundreds of thousands of votes out standing, and
LA officials have given us the next three weeks to count.
Let's get her done. We're gonna get some of your calls.
President Trump has also called on social media and said
(19:38):
this doesn't pass the smell test. In many ways, it
is echoing I believe what he saw happen to him
in the twenty twenty election. And let's go and take
some of these calls Jeralen in LA fire away what
you got for us?
Speaker 7 (19:56):
Hey, Clay and Buck, Hey, I'm as mad as anybody
about the situation with the vote. But your specific question, Clay,
was what people in the neighborhood are saying. It's hilarious
you think they're saying anything. In certain conservative circles, we
might all be mad and talk to each other, but
just out on the street are talking to neighbors, nobody cares.
And I know these people, as Rush used to say,
(20:19):
like the back, like every square inch of my glorious
naked body. If they were saying anything, they still wouldn't care.
That is losing.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
So do you and I do get it that people
on the left are saying, oh, well, it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
This is totally irrational.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
What's the ultimate Let's say that the final two running
are Nitya Rahman and Karen Bass. Karen Bass and the
incumbent mayor. Does the story of LA's dysfunction fade.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
In your mind?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Or does it just further reiterate because I'm kind of
thinking where the story goes from here. Spencer Pratt was
certainly going to be shining a light on all the
broken parts of LA. Do both of them just sweep
it under and pretend it doesn't exist, or in your mind,
has this story now becoming national as it has created
even more of a spotlight on LA's dysfunction.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Yeah, I don't think the average l alien cares. Everybody
knows that life is bad here. Everybody knows. You can't
get on the subway, you can't walk down the street.
There's like exposed sharps on the grass of my apartment building.
There's crazy homeless people willing to a costume. No matter
where you go, there's human thesis everywhere you step. Life
(21:36):
here is a mess. Everybody knows it, nobody likes it.
But they don't want to change the politics somewhere, and
they're stupid brains. There's a disconnect between cause and effect.
Or they're so caught up in the idea of like
being fair and woke that they're willing to put up
with the literal.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
I don't know if this is yes, yes, at all.
This is exactly what I tell people about in New York.
Thank you so much for Collin jarln Clay. I say
this when people from other parts of the country are
just like you know, I don't believe that you know,
it's eight to one Democrats to Republican I'm believe it.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
They're loons. It's real, trust me, I know.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
And Clay right now, look, on the one hand, President
Trump is going to the Knicks game tonight is going
to create some delays for security reasons for the people
with tickets. I'm just gonna say, that's a real thing.
So I would get there very early and plan to
you know, maybe bring yourself a bring yourself a Snickers
bar or a power bar something.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
You might be in line for a while.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
But Clay, New York right now, all you hear about,
I understand it's the ebulliance of Nick's fever right now
for a lot of people. But it's the weather's beautiful.
People are saying that New York is looking feeling great,
and Mam Donnie's the mayor. You know this is that
people have. It's very easy talking about bread and circus
(23:01):
is very easy. Oh, our team is doing great, and
you know the there's a lot of great restaurants and
people can be distracted from well, something like the numerous
people stabbed at Penn Station, which is the right where
the Knicks are going to be playing, by some maniac
who I think was in city provided housing, I might
I might add another person who's you know, being provided for,
(23:22):
and then turns around and stabs the people who are
trying to help him. So Clay, it's it's tough in
these blue enclaves, especially when they have a lot of
built in advantages, built in wealth. Many many people would
prefer bad governance in a beautiful place than good governance.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I do think that the natural beauty of Los Angeles
has a lot to do with the fact that people
will put up with incompetence.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
And I think in New York's case, it's there's nowhere
else in the world where you have the dynamism of
city options that you do in New York City. Restaurants, nightlife,
all these things, and so people will put up with
it because they're like, well, we have the best fill
in the blank in the world. So what if the
taxes are high? So what if commum im Donnie's an idiot?
(24:13):
So what if some maniac might throw, you know, a
bottle of urine at me when I'm walking down the street.
We've got great Thai food.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I like when I visit. I't been in New York
in a while. It's also really cold and awful in
the winter. Like La I can you walk outside, it
is absolutely perfect almost every day. I would not put
up with a lot of what goes on in New
York City just because it's also awful weather. I think
I'd put up with more in La Sharon, Tennessee. You
live now where I am. You're one of many Californians
(24:44):
that has fled. You have heard of people who don't
live in La anymore getting ballots?
Speaker 9 (24:52):
Yeah, so we moved here after the campfire. It took
us a few years to get here. I was born
in Tennessee, by the way, but we moved here, and
in my household in California, prior to moving, I had
three registered Republicans, an Independent, and a Democrat. We moved
several places and ended up moving here. And every year
(25:12):
since we have moved into this house, we get mail
in ballots for one the Democrat, not the Republicans. Nobody
else gets a mail in ballot. They are all registered,
even the Democrat. They're all registered in their states and
cities that they live in. But we get a mail
in ballot primary and general election every year for the
(25:32):
last five years. To our child who has never resided
at this address, has never used this address for mailing,
but yet she gets a primary and a general election
ballot every year.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
You get a ballot I have California mailed to your
home in Nashville or Tennessee. Correct Or your daughter who
has never lived in Tennessee but is a Democrat from California.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Correct.
Speaker 9 (26:00):
So I would like to know the percentage of Republicans
versus Democrat mail in ballots that they are getting. Now,
if I was an unscrupulous person, I could open up
her ballot, put what I want on there and mail it,
and I guess it would be counted as a ballot.
I wouldn't do that, but I don't understand. She is
registered in her town. She has not lived in California
(26:22):
in over seven years, but yet she still gets a
ballot here every few months.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Okay, Clay, a few things if thank you for calling
in Sharon in Tennessee. A few things here, And i'd
also point out, you know New York City right now,
you said the weather people don't remember that weather, Clay.
The weather in New York City right now is perfect.
It's incredible. It's seventy five degrees with the light breeze.
This is the thing, you know, This is like what
I tell people about college.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Yeah, go visit a New England.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
College in May or June and think about whether you
want to go to school there. It is heaven on Earth.
January little different unless you want.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
To fly us.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
They visit, they bring all the kids up to Wisconsin
and Michigan and Penn State in September.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
They're like, hey, it's perfect here.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
They don't bring them up in December, January, February to
see what he's like.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
There's just something that's something in the air in New
England and especially early summer. I just think is just
so it's so beautiful. So the thing with New York
right now is rents have never been higher. Tons of
people want to be there, New restaurants opening all the time,
so there's such a dynamism there that for all the
idiocy of Mamdani, you know he's and by the way,
the murder rate's very low right now, very low. Now
(27:36):
that overall crime this is interesting. We should have our
friend Rafael Mangualan from Manhattan Instity.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
To talk about this.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Overall crime is not very low, and particularly things like
subway crime. Party of life, assaults, robbery, things like that,
those are high, but murders are way down, and so
now they can they'll they'll just hit that talking point
and say, well, look, you know, maybe somebody will like,
you know, throw something at your head, but you're probably
not gonna get you know, You're probably not gonna get
shot by somebody.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Now.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
The other part of this I think we need to
just be honest about is maybe maybe in the mail
in ballot world, it really just is that easy to
get the low propensity, low information voter in a very
densely populated place like Los Angeles. Two, Maybe they're not cheating,
(28:25):
is what I'm saying. Guys, I know this is us,
Like people are gonna go crazy. Have you been to
Los Angeles? Have you walked around Santa Monica. You will
find people who are like, yeah, like I love it
here in Califorida, even though I got robbed three times
last year and some crazy homeless guy broke into my tesla, Like.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
They don't care. They're all over the place.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I will say, first of all, I love that caller,
and it is really interesting to think about how they
are determining who gets the ballots who don't currently reside
in California.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
That would be a great investigation. I will also.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Say, and this is generally true for mail in ballots,
Democrats tend to be registered in one address. And I
think this is a huge part of it. If you
talk about, like how how you can collate mail ballots
so much easier for Democrats in a particular building, there
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may be a thousand people who live in that building,
and they may bring those ballots all in through the
same address right one person. It's coming all into one location,
and somebody might end up with fifty one hundred, two hundred,
three hundred ballots on any given election cycle, and they're
(29:46):
all coming into the same address because the address is
all one physical place in a way that I don't
think Republicans ever do. And this is why I just
come back to President Trump is right about this. We
should not have man in ballots. I would be frankly
other than soldiers who are overseas, given that many states
(30:07):
buck have three weeks almost and many different jurisdictions of
early voting. If you aren't in a place for a month,
I don't know that during election season, I don't know
that you really need to vote there candidly if you
can't be physically present from October one to November five
(30:30):
in a location.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I don't know that you need to get a ballot.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I really think there's only one state I believe that
requires physical in person voting for everyone. I think it's
New Hampshire. I believe I am correct that they have
election day. Actually election day, you show up and you
have to be present physically. I would do away with
all male voting if you gave me the opportunity right now,
(30:56):
and I don't think we would lose very much, other
than for soldiers that have to be overseas for their jobs.
Very small numbers of people that can't be back for
one month period, and I think you'd see substantially different
outcomes all over the country if we did that. I
think President Trump is right. And if you wonder the
reason Democrats are fighting it so hard, is because they
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think that would be the case too.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
I just think that also a lot of their base play,
a lot of Democrat voters if they have to show.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Up for our sacred democracy in person, that's tough.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
If you send it to their house and they just
drop it in the mailbox right where they got it.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
It's a lot easier. This is, this is just reality.
This is what they're this is why they want this
so badly.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
So I don't want us to become uh, what's the
word complacent because we just say every time and remember
we're talking about Los Angeles.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
If this was happening Clay right now in uh, you know,
like statewide in Pennsylvania's I'd be like, oh, okay, you know, this.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Is this is La. Everybody.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
We love our Republican listeners from California. La is full
of wack of doos when it comes to politics.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
It really is. They're wacko. That's real.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
I need people to understand this that growing up in
New York, Clay, you can wander through whole parts of Brooklyn,
Whole parts of Brooklyn, which by the way, would be
the third largest city in America if it were its
own city, that's how big Brooklyn is. You can wander
through whole parts of Brooklyn. I'm telling you, you could
go hours hours talking to people on the street. You
(32:31):
wouldn't find a single Trump voter, not one. So I
don't want us to think, oh, they're cheating, they're cheating,
they're cheating. We got to find the cheating.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
I like the cheating. We got to find the cheating.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Otherwise, maybe we just have a structural problem here with
their vote efforts, their mail in all these things, their
ballot harvesting, which is legal I think in California.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Isn't it llegal to do that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Well, look, I mean what I would say about Pennsylvania
is they're doing this in Philadelphia. They're doing this in
Pittsburgh all on steroids. That's why the races are close.
And again I get bakes so we can't get sixty
votes to make sure that we have set rules on
how to vote. As soon as Democrats get back into power,
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they are going to pass the laws and they are
going to mandate voting requirements that are similar to what
exists in California. And they're not doing that because they
care about democracy. They're doing that because they know it
overwhelmingly advantages them because so many of these locations you
can get one hundred, two hundred, three hundred, five hundred
(33:39):
ballots to one address. I'm just telling you they have
got this system rigged.
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Speaker 6 (35:01):
Is this guy's name Dog? Is that right?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Doug?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Okay, it's Doug, which makes more sense. But I want
to I so badly want to be like, what's up, dog, Doug?
How are you in West La? Sorry for the typo
on the screen? What's going on?
Speaker 8 (35:17):
Ethnic person you'll ever talk to? So before I get
to voting, play might be the new head of CBS
News in sixty minutes, hi, or a new correspondent play.
Please keep us abreast of any further developments.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
Yes, I think that was a Sydney Sweeney joke. I
like where his head's out?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Okay, there, keep going.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
Yes, regarding voting, do you know who counts votes faster
with better technology than California?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
The Amish?
Speaker 8 (35:46):
The Amish votes got in in Ohio and Pennsylvania in time.
Why can't California?
Speaker 6 (35:52):
Well, Doug, Doug.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
I think you'll see Doug at the improv on Sunset
coming up later this week.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
Thank you, Doug.
Speaker 9 (35:58):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Stephen in Pennsylvania say you married your wife partly because
of ice?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Ice baby? First date we get in the car.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
We're driving to restaurants, and she turns the.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Radio on and it's as Baby is playing and she
turned it up, and then I knew it was gonna
go well.
Speaker 8 (36:20):
And it did.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
When when you asked her to marry you, did you say,
stop collaborate and listen, will you marry me?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Of course not. I'm not an idiot.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Fair point, A fair point, Thank you, good proposal. All right,
we're gonna be when we come back. We will be
joined by the Governor of Indiana, Mike Braun. Uh and Buck,
you are bouncing. You'll be with us back tomorrow. You're
running out, but uh, you have any famous last words
you would like to say? As we finished the hour,
(36:54):
I shall return, he shall return tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
There you go. I like that. I'll take that shado
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back our number two Clay and Buck. It is
time to stop collaborate and listen. Ice is back with
a brand new guest spot here on the Clay and
Buck Show. That is Vanilla Ice, who I believe is
still set to perform at the America to fifty festival.
(00:28):
We are excited to have him. He's down in the
great state of Florida. I want to start before we
dive into America to fifty with you. You have been a
pop culture figure for a long time now.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Would you have ever believed that it would become.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Popular to not like America regardless of whether you're a Democrat,
Republican or an independent. For many of us who grew
up in the eighties and the nineties, it was regardless
of what your politics were. You thought America was the
greatest country that had ever existed in the history of
the world. Many of us still believe that, but lots don't.
(01:07):
Would you have ever seen the trajectory that we are
on occurring?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Never never could predict this, And I feel sorry for
the thirty and unders. You know they're being pulled right
and left and don't understand the history and how it all.
You know, we were so American in the eighties and
the nineties, and I feel.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Like the computers have just ruined the world if you
really ask me, you know, I just want to live
in the nineties, man. But we were all united. I
think we were all watching Star Wars. I think we
were all growing up to the Ninja Turtles.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I think we were all driving five point zeros and
ripping our back seats out and putting in sobloopers in
Blockbuster Video and all the great things about the.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Cheesiness of it and those Zeka.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Ricci pants man in Gerbos, And I mean, we all
united and didn't take anything too serious because it was
so cheesy.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
How could you. Everybody just cracked jokes about everything, and
the politics was one of them. And now everybody's taking
everything so serious, you know, and they've got these uh,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Know what they're called, man, I travel around everywhere, these
little pockets of hate or whatever they are around the
country that just kind of generate that on the thirty
and unders, And I feel sorry for him. Man.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
We did have it better as kids.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
We really did a quick quick question point of order here.
Do you prefer to be called Robert or mister Ice?
How do we how do we can we say Robert?
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Is that good?
Speaker 7 (02:32):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I respond either way, I preferred to as rob. It's
not as cool as Bada, but I yeah, either way,
whatever you want to say.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
I mean, it's it must it's amazing because you are
Clay and I are as much like give them a
hard time, roughly the same age. And so the phenomenon
of the the peak, if you will, of the vanilla
ice phenomenon is something that we lived through as kids.
And I remember being in school and and my Catholic
grammar school in New York City and people trying to
do your dance move like all the time. Man, I
(03:01):
mean there was a period of time there where everyone
was trying to do the Vanilla Ice moves. Clay doesn't
believe it, but I feel like I actually could probably
do some pretty good I've got some funky there's some
funky beats here. People would be surprised. But going back
to the present day for a moment, the two fifty
celebration people have been pulling out of this. It sounds
(03:22):
like because yes, they're worried. Maybe their manager says, oh,
it's political or something, even though it really is supposed
to be about the greatness of America. But also there's threats.
I mean, is that have you been have people been
getting crazy with that stuff with you? Or has that
not really been a factor in your two fiftieth celebration
preparation so far, I've been.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Taking heat from everybody and anything. But it's not about that.
I get a lot of love, and I think that's
the main thing. You know. I never cater to a hater.
I just say later. So the truth is, you got
to understand how love works. And smiles are contagious, man.
And this party is you know, everyone is invited.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
It's not made to be divided.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Musicians are made to bring people together, and I'm just
one of them. Man. I don't think anybody should take
this too serious.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I don't think it's fair on.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
The musicians to put them in a political platform that
they don't belong.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Just say kind of like almost like you know, and
no offense. I can only speak for myself, but for me,
I just shut up and play. I stayed in my lane.
I don't take anything too serious.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
If you book me I know I'm booked by some fans,
and I'm ready to go party with them. I don't
dissect who it is or what it is or anything
like that, because I stand for me the party of
the nineties.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I enjoy it, man. I don't take anything too serious.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I don't think you should take anything an entertainer says
too serious either.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I think you should just enjoy the entertainment. That's all
it is.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
When we go back to the nineties for a minute,
and I happen to think the nineties or the greatest
decade that has ever existed in the history of the world,
They're my favorite decade. I know there's people out there
who would argue eighties or nineties. If you need a
good dinner party debate, or you got buddies coming over,
Eighties versus nineties is a really fun debate. What was
(05:14):
it like for you to go from being completely unknown
to famous overnight. There's a great story I wonder if
it has any resonance with you that the cast of
the show Friends went out to dinner right before the
show debuted. I believe they were out in Las Vegas
and they were told, this is the last time you'll
(05:36):
ever be able to go into a restaurant and just
be a normal person. You're gonna become famous in the nineties.
You could really the eighties too, you could become famous overnight.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
What was that experience like for you?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I mean, amazing is a whirlwind and like you're in
a tornado and you know, it's only sixteen when I
wrote is I's Baby, man? And then you know, not
even a year later, they say do you want to
be you know, in the Ninja Turtles movie. I said yes,
and I would have paid them, and they paid me.
The great thing is is that, you know, I have
(06:15):
so many great memories of America and what made me
and I've always been patriotic. I always hold up the
flag and I always really really appreciate these soldiers out there,
you know.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
And that's the thing that these kids thirty and under,
I don't think they understand the history of the soldiers
and how we got our freedom.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I think that that maybe they just kind of confused
because they're taking right and left and there's so much
information out there and not enough love. And they got
to show love on both sides. Man. You know, I
don't vote, so it really don't matter what I have
to say about this, But as far as a musician,
I like to bring people together and this is our
country and.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I believe we're all one.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
And I don't like news channels dividing the country. I
don't like negativity anywhere. I just like you know, being
positive and folks on the cheesiness of you know, back
in the day and kind of carrying that over to
today to show these kids how great we really had it.
Because they're stuck playing Fortnite and stuff. They don't even
want to get out of the house. You know, it's
(07:13):
like we've got in trouble for not coming home on time.
It was a complete different, you know, childhood growing up
and riding skateboards and getting hurt and jumping bikes and.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Figuring things out on your own.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And now it's like everything has to be you know,
and I don't know where the AI is going. It's
going to be crazy with the entertainer. But for me,
the fame was amazing. It was a whirlwind. I went
through everything, ups and downs, and what doesn't kill you
makes you stronger man.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So you know, always say we are who we are
because of who we were. And even though I've got.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Some great stories on the front porch to tell you,
you know that I probably wouldn't wish my life on
my worst enemy.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
It's crazy, you.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Know, to go through that and everything and then you
have to separate it and figure out what your purpose
in life is, what you're meaning. And it's all about
those kids, man. I mean, I know you guys got kids.
I got four, so it's it's something. And I got
a seven year old all the way to a twenty
eight year old, so it's it's amazing to see them
different generations and all the you know, different things they experience.
(08:15):
And all I can tell my kids is just don't
take everything so serious.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Everything out there they want you to take it serious.
It's like you're the they got.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
The rabbit, and or you're the rabbit and they're the
freaking carrot and they're pulling it with a string and
you're chasing it.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Don't be that person. Stand up. Smile. You know I
come from when we.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Go to classroom, we would we would pledge allegiance to
the flag. You know, I can still do it today,
and that's you know, that shows you the pride of
being an American and proud to be born and raised here.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
It made me and I'm honored for this event. Man,
and and and who throws a better party than Trump? Man,
I've been to many of them. If anybody you want
to throw your party, you'd be that guy. He's the greatest.
I'm telling you.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, I've been to magic shows at mar A Lago,
I've been to all kinds of great things and.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
In the events that he's done, and they're super awesome.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
Man.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
So speaking American man, So Robert Robert van Winkle better
known to all of you as a Vanilla Ice and
and Rob. We really appreciate the call to patriotism and unity,
and I wish that that was reflected in the broader,
particularly the news media. But as you might have picked up, Rob,
(09:30):
some of them don't like Trump very much, and anything
that has anything to do with Trump they have nothing
but distain for and hatred for. So we would like
this to be more of a broad and patriotic celebration.
I know that you just want all Americans, really, all
people who want to celebrate America to show up when
you're doing this concert. I have to ask you, I'm
(09:50):
just so curious, what was the moment. I'm sure there
was a moment when you realized, oh, this is like
a big this is a real thing. Going back to
the the rocket ship that was Ice Ice Baby back
in the nineties, what was the moment when it went
from like, first of all, did you know when you
put down that track, were you like this is gonna
(10:12):
this is gonna crush it?
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Like this is gonna be amazing?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
And second of all, when did you realize, oh, this
isn't just a song that is going to do well
and help build my career, but little kids like Buck
Sexton at age whatever are gonna be with their friends
trying to do the Vanilla Ice dance moves in the
courtyard of their school, all across America, all fifty states. Like,
give me both of those moments if you would.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Man, it's amazing that this thing took on a life
of its own. When I did Ice Ized Baby, I
didn't know it was actually the B side when we
put it out, because back in the day we had
vinyl records and you had an A side and a
B side, So for DJs, they go, let me play
the A side first. It was play that funky music
on the A side, which did go to number six
on the billboard charts, and then they flipped it over
(10:57):
somewhere in Georgia and it went crazy in.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
The phone started ringing and everybody was Ice, Ice.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Baby, and it was just a movement and it became
an anthem of the nineties. You know everything about it.
You can go back and look at it, and it's
just you'll miss it. Man. The five point zeros are
so iconic for cruising the streets. We all had experiences
with them. If you didn't have one, and if you drag
raced them, you probably got beat by one. And everybody
kind of ripped out their back seats and we were
(11:24):
in the subwoofers. We had to curious screwdriver to tighten
the license plate. You know about this. We went to
Blockbuster for our movies. Man, we learned to dance the
cheesiest dance moves. Everything has changed into this world that
is I don't know, it's shaken up like a snow globe.
But I think I think if we just get back
to the word love, man, it'll come back together.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
And we can unite instead of dvite.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
It's something that musicians are, you know, capable of doing.
Bob Marley was really great at doing that and unifying
people from all different genres, all different race everything, And
you know, I just feel like we should all kind
of go back to that cheesiness of the nineties and
not take anything so serious, man, and get out there
and enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You mentioned President Trump in the fact you've known him
for a long time. You knew him many.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
President Trump was super famous in the eighties, the nineties,
the two thousand's, obviously the Apprentice, long before he ever
considered becoming a politician. Were you surprised that President Trump
decided to become involved in politics. What was your experience
you remember the first time you met him, What was
he like? What has your relationship been like with him?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
He's great, He's always been gracious. I live in Palm Beach.
He lives down the street.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I've gone over there, like I said, and seen some
really good, you know, parties and all kinds of great things,
met some great people and everything. And I would have
gone to any I would have gone to Barack Obama's
and played basketball with him. I kind of wanted to
do that back in the day because I thought he
was a cool dude.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I'm just a guy that gets along with everybody.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
You know, I'm not someone that takes any of this
political stuff serious. Trump was great, He's always been gracious.
And I know his family as well. They're super great kids,
super smart, super intelligent, and you know, to me, you
can put me on a chopping block.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I don't care, because I see it for what it is.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I mean, the guy could be in San Trape living
it up and he chose to be the president and
get shot at me. He's a billionaire. Why would you
want this job. I wouldn't want all that weight on
my shoulders.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
But as a person that don't vote, I don't.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Really have much of an opinion to say anything about
like my fans should follow.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
This or that. I don't do that. I don't think
that any entertainer should do that.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I think you should stay in your lane and just
enjoy bringing people together.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Man from everywhere. We're all one. The mediorite hits this planet.
Now we all die.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Figure it out, you know, Jurassic period, Jurassic period, Crusaceous period.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
It's going to happen again. We all need to unite
and unify man and get over.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
All of this.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
The headline the headline from his interview is Vanilla I says,
everyone be cool to each other because the asteroid is
gonna hit the planet any day now, so we're all good.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
We're all good, Vanilla. Mister Vanilla, thank you for being here. Rob.
We appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I went, I went from I went from Rob to
mister Vanilla.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Now.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Thank you for being with us, sir, and good luck
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It would be fantastic. Goninja go, Happy Birthday America, thank.
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Speaker 6 (15:36):
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Speaker 5 (15:45):
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We just
had Vanilla Ice rob Benwiggle with us. It's great guy,
by the way, great attitude, a lot of really interesting stories.
And for those of us who are fame of Age
of the nineties and mean that song, you hear that
be right away way and you start shaking those hips, Clay,
you start feeling, start feeling the moves coming up on you.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I will just say what he said there. I think
would be great if it would come back as the
standard entertainer perspective. I do think a big reason why
everybody got along in general. Not that everybody agreed, but
in the eighties and the nineties, most people didn't feel
compelled to tell you, if you were in entertainment, everything
(16:31):
they thought about politics. And you remember we played that
clip of the way that the Oscars reacted when they
first of all, they rescheduled the Oscars after Ronald Reagan
was shot, but the way that they behaved in the
crowd when they came out and said that Reagan was
gonna be okay. I know Reagan had a background in Hollywood,
(16:52):
and he was a former governor of California, but I
just think that, hey, I'm an entertainer, what do I know?
That used to be the standard. Now everybody feels compelled
in Hollywood to tell you everything that they think about
every political issue, and so do frankly a lot of athletes.
I feel like one reason people got along well in
the eighties and nineties was because we just said, hey,
(17:14):
we really don't care what celebrities think, and that was
better and healthier for the country to have a separate
place beyond culture that wasn't entirely political all the time.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Yes, indeed, and then as you heard there. He was
a teenage Mutan Ninja Turtles fan, so that was all real.
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We're going to take a bunch of calls here, a
lot of la election stuff that we need to get into.
Many of you in Los Angeles very frustrated with the
way this is being depicted, of course by the Democrat media,
(17:51):
who let's just say, if they could be the vote
counters slipping in some extras for the Democrats, they would
do it.
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Welcome back in Clay and Buck. We're gonna get to
some of your calls. President Trump has posted about the
vote count in California.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
We played the audio of him reacting to it.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Spencer Pratt just posted in the last few minutes, folks
were dealing with a fraction of a percentage point difference.
There's still hundreds of thousands of votes out standing, and
LA officials have given us the next three weeks to count.
Let's get her done. We're gonna get some of your calls.
President Trump has also called on social media and said
(19:38):
this doesn't pass the smell test. In many ways, it
is echoing I believe what he saw happen to him
in the twenty twenty election. And let's go and take
some of these calls Jeralen in LA fire away what
you got for us?
Speaker 7 (19:56):
Hey, Clay and Buck, Hey, I'm as mad as anybody
about the situation with the vote. But your specific question, Clay,
was what people in the neighborhood are saying. It's hilarious
you think they're saying anything. In certain conservative circles, we
might all be mad and talk to each other, but
just out on the street are talking to neighbors, nobody cares.
And I know these people, as Rush used to say,
(20:19):
like the back, like every square inch of my glorious
naked body. If they were saying anything, they still wouldn't care.
That is losing.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
So do you and I do get it that people
on the left are saying, oh, well, it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
This is totally irrational.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
What's the ultimate Let's say that the final two running
are Nitya Rahman and Karen Bass. Karen Bass and the
incumbent mayor. Does the story of LA's dysfunction fade.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
In your mind?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Or does it just further reiterate because I'm kind of
thinking where the story goes from here. Spencer Pratt was
certainly going to be shining a light on all the
broken parts of LA. Do both of them just sweep
it under and pretend it doesn't exist, or in your mind,
has this story now becoming national as it has created
even more of a spotlight on LA's dysfunction.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Yeah, I don't think the average l alien cares. Everybody
knows that life is bad here. Everybody knows. You can't
get on the subway, you can't walk down the street.
There's like exposed sharps on the grass of my apartment building.
There's crazy homeless people willing to a costume. No matter
where you go, there's human thesis everywhere you step. Life
(21:36):
here is a mess. Everybody knows it, nobody likes it.
But they don't want to change the politics somewhere, and
they're stupid brains. There's a disconnect between cause and effect.
Or they're so caught up in the idea of like
being fair and woke that they're willing to put up
with the literal.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
I don't know if this is yes, yes, at all.
This is exactly what I tell people about in New York.
Thank you so much for Collin jarln Clay. I say
this when people from other parts of the country are
just like you know, I don't believe that you know,
it's eight to one Democrats to Republican I'm believe it.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
They're loons. It's real, trust me, I know.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
And Clay right now, look, on the one hand, President
Trump is going to the Knicks game tonight is going
to create some delays for security reasons for the people
with tickets. I'm just gonna say, that's a real thing.
So I would get there very early and plan to
you know, maybe bring yourself a bring yourself a Snickers
bar or a power bar something.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
You might be in line for a while.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
But Clay, New York right now, all you hear about,
I understand it's the ebulliance of Nick's fever right now
for a lot of people. But it's the weather's beautiful.
People are saying that New York is looking feeling great,
and Mam Donnie's the mayor. You know this is that
people have. It's very easy talking about bread and circus
(23:01):
is very easy. Oh, our team is doing great, and
you know the there's a lot of great restaurants and
people can be distracted from well, something like the numerous
people stabbed at Penn Station, which is the right where
the Knicks are going to be playing, by some maniac
who I think was in city provided housing, I might
I might add another person who's you know, being provided for,
(23:22):
and then turns around and stabs the people who are
trying to help him. So Clay, it's it's tough in
these blue enclaves, especially when they have a lot of
built in advantages, built in wealth. Many many people would
prefer bad governance in a beautiful place than good governance.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I do think that the natural beauty of Los Angeles
has a lot to do with the fact that people
will put up with incompetence.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
And I think in New York's case, it's there's nowhere
else in the world where you have the dynamism of
city options that you do in New York City. Restaurants, nightlife,
all these things, and so people will put up with
it because they're like, well, we have the best fill
in the blank in the world. So what if the
taxes are high? So what if commum im Donnie's an idiot?
(24:13):
So what if some maniac might throw, you know, a
bottle of urine at me when I'm walking down the street.
We've got great Thai food.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I like when I visit. I't been in New York
in a while. It's also really cold and awful in
the winter. Like La I can you walk outside, it
is absolutely perfect almost every day. I would not put
up with a lot of what goes on in New
York City just because it's also awful weather. I think
I'd put up with more in La Sharon, Tennessee. You
live now where I am. You're one of many Californians
(24:44):
that has fled. You have heard of people who don't
live in La anymore getting ballots?
Speaker 9 (24:52):
Yeah, so we moved here after the campfire. It took
us a few years to get here. I was born
in Tennessee, by the way, but we moved here, and
in my household in California, prior to moving, I had
three registered Republicans, an Independent, and a Democrat. We moved
several places and ended up moving here. And every year
(25:12):
since we have moved into this house, we get mail
in ballots for one the Democrat, not the Republicans. Nobody
else gets a mail in ballot. They are all registered,
even the Democrat. They're all registered in their states and
cities that they live in. But we get a mail
in ballot primary and general election every year for the
(25:32):
last five years. To our child who has never resided
at this address, has never used this address for mailing,
but yet she gets a primary and a general election
ballot every year.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
You get a ballot I have California mailed to your
home in Nashville or Tennessee. Correct Or your daughter who
has never lived in Tennessee but is a Democrat from California.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Correct.
Speaker 9 (26:00):
So I would like to know the percentage of Republicans
versus Democrat mail in ballots that they are getting. Now,
if I was an unscrupulous person, I could open up
her ballot, put what I want on there and mail it,
and I guess it would be counted as a ballot.
I wouldn't do that, but I don't understand. She is
registered in her town. She has not lived in California
(26:22):
in over seven years, but yet she still gets a
ballot here every few months.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Okay, Clay, a few things if thank you for calling
in Sharon in Tennessee. A few things here, And i'd
also point out, you know New York City right now,
you said the weather people don't remember that weather, Clay.
The weather in New York City right now is perfect.
It's incredible. It's seventy five degrees with the light breeze.
This is the thing, you know, This is like what
I tell people about college.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Yeah, go visit a New England.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
College in May or June and think about whether you
want to go to school there. It is heaven on Earth.
January little different unless you want.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
To fly us.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
They visit, they bring all the kids up to Wisconsin
and Michigan and Penn State in September.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
They're like, hey, it's perfect here.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
They don't bring them up in December, January, February to
see what he's like.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
There's just something that's something in the air in New
England and especially early summer. I just think is just
so it's so beautiful. So the thing with New York
right now is rents have never been higher. Tons of
people want to be there, New restaurants opening all the time,
so there's such a dynamism there that for all the
idiocy of Mamdani, you know he's and by the way,
the murder rate's very low right now, very low. Now
(27:36):
that overall crime this is interesting. We should have our
friend Rafael Mangualan from Manhattan Instity.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
To talk about this.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Overall crime is not very low, and particularly things like
subway crime. Party of life, assaults, robbery, things like that,
those are high, but murders are way down, and so
now they can they'll they'll just hit that talking point
and say, well, look, you know, maybe somebody will like,
you know, throw something at your head, but you're probably
not gonna get you know, You're probably not gonna get
shot by somebody.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Now.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
The other part of this I think we need to
just be honest about is maybe maybe in the mail
in ballot world, it really just is that easy to
get the low propensity, low information voter in a very
densely populated place like Los Angeles. Two, Maybe they're not cheating,
(28:25):
is what I'm saying. Guys, I know this is us,
Like people are gonna go crazy. Have you been to
Los Angeles? Have you walked around Santa Monica. You will
find people who are like, yeah, like I love it
here in Califorida, even though I got robbed three times
last year and some crazy homeless guy broke into my tesla, Like.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
They don't care. They're all over the place.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I will say, first of all, I love that caller,
and it is really interesting to think about how they
are determining who gets the ballots who don't currently reside
in California.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
That would be a great investigation. I will also.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Say, and this is generally true for mail in ballots,
Democrats tend to be registered in one address. And I
think this is a huge part of it. If you
talk about, like how how you can collate mail ballots
so much easier for Democrats in a particular building, there
(29:23):
may be a thousand people who live in that building,
and they may bring those ballots all in through the
same address right one person. It's coming all into one location,
and somebody might end up with fifty one hundred, two hundred,
three hundred ballots on any given election cycle, and they're
(29:46):
all coming into the same address because the address is
all one physical place in a way that I don't
think Republicans ever do. And this is why I just
come back to President Trump is right about this. We
should not have man in ballots. I would be frankly
other than soldiers who are overseas, given that many states
(30:07):
buck have three weeks almost and many different jurisdictions of
early voting. If you aren't in a place for a month,
I don't know that during election season, I don't know
that you really need to vote there candidly if you
can't be physically present from October one to November five
(30:30):
in a location.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I don't know that you need to get a ballot.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I really think there's only one state I believe that
requires physical in person voting for everyone. I think it's
New Hampshire. I believe I am correct that they have
election day. Actually election day, you show up and you
have to be present physically. I would do away with
all male voting if you gave me the opportunity right now,
(30:56):
and I don't think we would lose very much, other
than for soldiers that have to be overseas for their jobs.
Very small numbers of people that can't be back for
one month period, and I think you'd see substantially different
outcomes all over the country if we did that. I
think President Trump is right. And if you wonder the
reason Democrats are fighting it so hard, is because they
(31:18):
think that would be the case too.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
I just think that also a lot of their base play,
a lot of Democrat voters if they have to show.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Up for our sacred democracy in person, that's tough.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
If you send it to their house and they just
drop it in the mailbox right where they got it.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
It's a lot easier. This is, this is just reality.
This is what they're this is why they want this
so badly.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
So I don't want us to become uh, what's the
word complacent because we just say every time and remember
we're talking about Los Angeles.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
If this was happening Clay right now in uh, you know,
like statewide in Pennsylvania's I'd be like, oh, okay, you know, this.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Is this is La. Everybody.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
We love our Republican listeners from California. La is full
of wack of doos when it comes to politics.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
It really is. They're wacko. That's real.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
I need people to understand this that growing up in
New York, Clay, you can wander through whole parts of Brooklyn,
Whole parts of Brooklyn, which by the way, would be
the third largest city in America if it were its
own city, that's how big Brooklyn is. You can wander
through whole parts of Brooklyn. I'm telling you, you could
go hours hours talking to people on the street. You
(32:31):
wouldn't find a single Trump voter, not one. So I
don't want us to think, oh, they're cheating, they're cheating,
they're cheating. We got to find the cheating.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
I like the cheating. We got to find the cheating.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Otherwise, maybe we just have a structural problem here with
their vote efforts, their mail in all these things, their
ballot harvesting, which is legal I think in California.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Isn't it llegal to do that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Well, look, I mean what I would say about Pennsylvania
is they're doing this in Philadelphia. They're doing this in
Pittsburgh all on steroids. That's why the races are close.
And again I get bakes so we can't get sixty
votes to make sure that we have set rules on
how to vote. As soon as Democrats get back into power,
(33:16):
they are going to pass the laws and they are
going to mandate voting requirements that are similar to what
exists in California. And they're not doing that because they
care about democracy. They're doing that because they know it
overwhelmingly advantages them because so many of these locations you
can get one hundred, two hundred, three hundred, five hundred
(33:39):
ballots to one address. I'm just telling you they have
got this system rigged.
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Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck and let's
talk to people about elections.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Is this guy's name Dog? Is that right?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Doug?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Okay, it's Doug, which makes more sense. But I want
to I so badly want to be like, what's up, dog, Doug?
How are you in West La? Sorry for the typo
on the screen? What's going on?
Speaker 8 (35:17):
Ethnic person you'll ever talk to? So before I get
to voting, play might be the new head of CBS
News in sixty minutes, hi, or a new correspondent play.
Please keep us abreast of any further developments.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
Yes, I think that was a Sydney Sweeney joke. I
like where his head's out?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Okay, there, keep going.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
Yes, regarding voting, do you know who counts votes faster
with better technology than California?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
The Amish?
Speaker 8 (35:46):
The Amish votes got in in Ohio and Pennsylvania in time.
Why can't California?
Speaker 6 (35:52):
Well, Doug, Doug.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
I think you'll see Doug at the improv on Sunset
coming up later this week.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
Thank you, Doug.
Speaker 9 (35:58):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Stephen in Pennsylvania say you married your wife partly because
of ice?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Ice baby? First date we get in the car.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
We're driving to restaurants, and she turns the.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Radio on and it's as Baby is playing and she
turned it up, and then I knew it was gonna
go well.
Speaker 8 (36:20):
And it did.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
When when you asked her to marry you, did you say,
stop collaborate and listen, will you marry me?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Of course not. I'm not an idiot.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Fair point, A fair point, Thank you, good proposal. All right,
we're gonna be when we come back. We will be
joined by the Governor of Indiana, Mike Braun. Uh and Buck,
you are bouncing. You'll be with us back tomorrow. You're
running out, but uh, you have any famous last words
you would like to say? As we finished the hour,
(36:54):
I shall return, he shall return tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
There you go. I like that. I'll take that shado
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Hey Jonas! The official Jonas Brothers podcast. Hosted by Kevin, Joe, and Nick Jonas. It’s the Jonas Brothers you know... musicians, actors, and well, yes, brothers. Now, they’re sharing another side of themselves in the playful, intimate, and irreverent way only they can. Spend time with the Jonas Brothers here and stay a little bit longer for deep conversations like never before.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com