July 8, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show focused on the escalating U.S.-Iran confrontation, the future of American military strategy in the Middle East, President Donald Trump’s increasingly hardline stance toward the Iranian regime, the strategic importance of Kharg Island, World Cup predictions, media expansion for the show, and a surprisingly extensive discussion about airline etiquette and modern air travel. This third hour of the program blended serious geopolitical analysis with listener interaction and cultural commentary, while maintaining a heavy focus on national security and foreign policy.
The hour opened with an in-depth discussion of Iran featuring Heritage Foundation senior fellow Steve Yates. Clay and Buck played recent comments from President Trump, who declared that negotiations with Iran are effectively over, described Iranian leadership in extremely negative terms, and expressed deep frustration with repeated diplomatic failures. Yates argued that Trump has arrived at the conclusion that many longtime Iran observers have held for years—that the Iranian regime cannot be trusted to negotiate in good faith. He suggested that after months of attempting diplomacy, the administration is now returning to a pressure-based strategy centered on military action and economic coercion.
A major topic throughout Hour 3 was the possibility of U.S. action involving Kharg Island, Iran’s primary oil export hub. Clay and Buck questioned Yates about whether the United States could seize, neutralize, or otherwise remove Iranian control over the island. Yates argued that Kharg Island represents one of the most important pressure points available because it directly affects the regime’s ability to generate revenue. He suggested that the United States possesses the technological and military capabilities necessary to control or disable the facility without launching a broader occupation of Iran itself. The discussion focused on military strategy, energy security, deterrence, and the economic foundations of Iranian power.
The hosts also explored the broader question of how the United States can increase pressure on Iran without becoming entangled in another large-scale Middle East conflict. Yates emphasized degrading the capabilities of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), enhancing protection for commercial shipping in the Strait of Hormuz, and using precision strikes to impose costs on the regime. He argued that the immediate objective should be demonstrating overwhelming control of regional security while avoiding a traditional invasion-and-occupation model.
One of the most significant debates centered on whether Iran’s leadership is rational. Clay argued that some factions inside the regime appear interested in economic normalization, while Buck maintained that the ruling structure is fundamentally extremist and unlikely to change. The hosts discussed whether Iranian leaders might sabotage their own oil infrastructure if confronted with the loss of Kharg Island and debated how far the regime would go to preserve ideological control. The conversation highlighted continuing uncertainty over whether economic incentives can influence Iranian decision-making.
Yates also offered his outlook for the coming months, predicting continued pressure against the IRGC and stronger enforcement of freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz. He suggested that the next several days and weeks could prove critical in determining whether the regime alters its behavior or forces the United States and its allies to pursue even more aggressive options. Clay and Buck examined how energy markets, oil prices, military operations, and regional stability could all be affected by those decisions.
The conversation briefly shifted to the FIFA World Cup when Yates predicted that Norway could emerge as a surprise contender despite not being among the tournament favorites. Clay pointed out that France, Spain, Argentina, and England remain the leading favorites but joked that a Norwegian championship run would be one of the biggest surprises of the tournament. The segment reflected the hosts’ ongoing coverage of the World Cup and broader international sports storylines.
The hosts also discussed the continued growth of the Clay and Buck video platform. Clay highlighted the expansion of the show’s YouTube presence, emphasizing the ability to provide live video coverage of White House events, interviews, breaking news, and short-form content designed to reach younger audiences. He argued that modern media consumption increasingly revolves around brief video clips and social sharing, making video distribution an important part of the show’s future strategy.
The second half of the hour took an unexpectedly humorous turn into airline travel culture and passenger behavior. Clay and Buck debated the proper etiquette for boardi
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour, Clay end Bock gets going right now. Thanks
for being here with us.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We're joined by our friend Steve Yates, Senior fel at
the Heritage Foundation post of the podcast network CNB podcast
Network show Nation States with Yates, which is awesome. Definitely
go check that one out. Guys, mister Yates, pleasure to
have you. As always, I wanted to have you react
(00:24):
to we played as the first hour of the program,
but I wanted to have you react to what Trump
has said as of this morning on the Iran negotiation situation,
guys play seventeen.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
To me, I think it's over. I don't want to
deal with them, and then with this scum. You know
what scum is there? Scum, there's sick people. They're led
by sick people and the vicious, violent people, and if
they had a nuclear weapon, they'd use it.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
As far as I'm concerned, it's over.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I'll speak to our negotiators. They want to negotiate. They're
good people, Steve Woodcuff, Jared Kusher, but they have to
come back to me. As far as I'm concerned, it's
just a waste of time.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Dealing with them, the liars.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We make a deal and if I make a deal
with him, we have a deal, and he goes out,
he talks, We make a deal, everyone's agreed, no nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
We make a deal. They go outside, talk to the press.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
They say, we never even talked about it. There's something
wrong with him.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
They're cuckoo.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
As far as I'm concerned, it's over. They're bad people,
and frankly, I don't want to waste my time with
him now. I'll let our wonderful negotiators keep talking if
they want.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
But I don't see it. I don't like these people.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You know that they're sick people. There's scum yates. Doesn't
sound like this is about to get to a happy ending.
What where did Steve go.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
He talked to We're gonna get back him back up.
We've got the videos. Just FYI. We're going to have
three hours of video. That probably means that we'll have
now opportunity to have tech failures on both video and audio,
which is, you know, something that may happen, but we're live.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Very few people do this live, three hours video, radio, everything.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
But the positive is most of the time this will
work and we will be able to be everywhere. Six
hundred radio stations satellite radio. And now you'll have a
video version of the program for those of you out
there that want to stream it on YouTube. We're gonna
have it lots of other places. Is Steve back up
(02:28):
and rolling?
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Did the Iranians? Okay? So they're gonna try to get
Iranians knocked off?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
As comms Clay, the Gayetola, as you call him, clearly
running a cyber op against Yates so that he cannot
explain the next step to defeat Iran.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
On the show The gay Atola, we got Steve Yates back.
I don't know if he heard your question, Buck, but
basically we were saying, Trump says Steve that he can
no longer trust in any way eron what happens now?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
What is the next step? So far as you can
see it?
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Well, Clay, I mean, really, for a lot of us
that have deep experience in this, we're not surprised that
the president arriving at this point, but can sort of
forgive him for having been impeached multiple times and butchered
by the establishment, that he wants to experience some of
these things for himself. When he's asked why, he said
that it was the negotiations were going well before, and
why they're so bad now it is because I got
to know them, and I think he did, and so
(03:29):
I think he's arrived at the correct judgment. We had
lifted some of the economic pressure temporarily. The Treasury Department
put that back on yesterday, the President may clear, we're
hitting them last night and tonight, and so I think
we're back to basics. The main question is how much
further can we degrade the IRGC, that is the revolutionary Guard,
(03:51):
that's the most radical element that has military capability, and
he's trying to beat them down into a place where
we can maybe get some kind of a management routine.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
So the options that are being discussed now, Steve, are
still things that we've heard.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
There are things we've heard about before.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
But for example, the one that really sticks out to me,
I just I don't believe, and more importantly, I don't
think the Iranians believe. And if you disagree, by all means, Steve,
let us know that Trump is going to blow up
their desalinization plants and blow up all their power plants.
I don't think he's going to do that. Carg Island though,
(04:33):
to me, that I put in the more of the
realm of the possible. Do you assess that similarly, And
if we were to do the carg Island operation, what
would that look like and could we pull it off?
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Well, we always could have pulled it off. It was
a little bit of a mystery to me why that
wasn't early in the mix. There probably was a reason
that it was just beyond my line of sight. I
see it identically then that I don't think he wants
to nuke essentially the civil infrastructure of the country. That
creates a whole range of uncertainties that could be problems
(05:11):
for our allies, could be problems for us, And so
I think he wants to try to focus on degrading
the militancy, and I think we can do a lot
of that by doing what they've been doing along the coasts.
They can hit deeply into the military decision making process.
They've hit the manufacturing. The carg Island part should be
the game overpoint, because that is what allows the regime
(05:34):
to fund and survive. And I think that we have
some capabilities in place to be able to do it
with minimal risk of casualties.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And so it would four Star General Yates in our
in our scenario, would four star General Yates tell the President,
mister President, we should do this, we should take car guy.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Look, that's the only logical next step. Where do you
put it?
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I would I would put I would put that very
high on the list. Now, first, for me me, the
absolute priority is we have to prove that anyone can
move the in the Straits and that if they're fired upon,
the enemy is greased immediately. That just has to be
the case, because we have got to get have to
demonstrate the freedom of navigation matters. I think carg Island
(06:17):
is a longer term step. It means that they pay
a price for the ropodope that they've used on the
President for these several months. And it's not invading and
occupying Iran proper. It's an island, and so I think
it falls short of the red line of no invade
and occupy, but imposes a cost that I think most
of the world and I think most Americans would agree,
(06:37):
they deserve to pay.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Okay, I'm fascinated by this, and Buck and I were
talking about it a little bit earlier. So two parter
for you on the Carg Island front.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
One, do you.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Believe that we would be able to take Carg Island
and continue to basically produce, refine whatever is necessary Iranian
oil and gas to keep going onto the mar. Not
dissimilar in some ways to what has happened in Venezuela, right,
except in Venezuela we had Delsea Rodriguez who was a
(07:08):
partner that would work with us. Is that possible in Iran?
That's part one, Part two? And I asked Buck this earlier.
You're dealing with crazy people on some level in Iran.
Is it possible that if we seized Carg Island that
Iran elements of Iran might decide, Okay, fine, we'll just
(07:29):
blow up our own oil and gas infrastructure. Are they
that crazy? That's two big ones.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Well, I think that second big one is legitimate in
front and center. I think we can't put that at
a zero probability. In fact, I do think there's a
sort of suicidal element to this cult that runs this
theocratic state, and so if they perceive themselves to be losing,
and I do perceive them to be losing, then they
would potentially reach for things like that. So to me,
(07:56):
Carg Island the value is taking it off the table
for them. The United States of America will survive if
carg Island does not exist, and so taking it away
from them, I think is step one. If it could
be used in the Venezuela sense, that's an intriguing probability,
one that we have to have a high sense that
(08:17):
President Trump would be interested in exploring. But the security
of that is very, very problematic because of its geographic
proximity to Mayland, Iran. So to me, it's first take
it out of their hands, prove that that can be done,
and see whether we've got a different set of facts
to deal with with this regime.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Do we Buck at question on this? Do we have
any idea how many people it would take to take
carg Island. We're talking about how many people you may
have lost him again, I think the Gaetola might really
be trying to take out Steve here, because you've given
us some good information. The question that I asked to me, Buck,
(08:55):
I think is a huge part of this. It is
how many people would need to be involved in order
to secure a carg Island, Right, Well, it would the
taking it, I think is a lot easier than the
holding it, most likely because Okay, Steve.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You're gonna You're gonna run us through the operation to
take carg Island. Strap on your helmet, get out your
M four.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
What happens, Well, no one hired me to be a
special ops general, but I would say, you know, basically
your ways of decisions. I mean, there's a lot that
we can do with technology without having to risk the
lives and well being of our troops. And so there's
a lot that we can do to make this island
go silent, and then once it's silent, sort of like
(09:36):
we used to say in the Vietnam War, we rule
the night, and so we have abilities that no one
else has. And just like when they went into Venezuela
to invite in the Duro to peaceably come to the
United States of America to face justice, there are things
that we can do. I don't think it is beyond
the realm to to do it with low risk of casualties,
(09:59):
heavy emphasis on technology and unmanned kinds of platforms, and
really again the question would be do you just leave
it to rot, do you try to operate it or
is it going to just be blown up?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Speaking of Steve Yates, Nation States with Yates as his
podcast and all things national security. Where do you see
this going Steve? Now I'm asking for crystal ball Yates.
Where do you think this goes next? I mean, the
President clearly very frustrated, but also it doesn't seem like
to me he's surprised. Right, there's a lot of frustration,
but not a lot of surprise in his tone. So
(10:37):
he knew that this was a possibility. What do you
think the next ninety days looks like? And how confident
are you in the oil price situation continuing to be
at a reasonable stable place.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Well, that gets first and foremost. We have to demonstrate
that we're escorting and providing security for vessels to move
through the Strait and it's more of annoyance fire from
the Iranians at this point, and we should be able
to help defend against that. We should be able to
pressure allies to step in and do more to defend
against that. That will have a bigger impact on oil
markets than whither this regime and these on again off
(11:16):
against cease fires. Now, I think that basically the President
is intent on something them pretty hard and seeing whether
they're going to come back and get serious. And he
says he doesn't have any more use for negotiations, but
he seems to have an endless appetite for searching for deals,
and so I think he's trying to change the fact pattern.
(11:37):
See where we are, But I think it's important that
we fundamentally degrade the IRGC in this season of the
next week or so. See what's going on in the
straight in the next week or so, and do we
have to move on carb Island in the next week
or so. If we don't have any meaningful change on
those variables over that period, then we're just sitting I think,
(11:58):
spinning wheels.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Who's gonna win the World Cup?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Steve Well, I know that you have planted the flag
on the country that we defeated in the Revolutionary War,
But I have to say that I am among the
many that have been taken in by the Viking, who
is the most charismatic figure of this World Cup.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I would say, oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
And I think there are not odds on favorite Clay
may know better these odds of this foreign sport to
me known as soccer. But I have to say it's
been much much more interesting than I expected, and I
am all for a team Norway at this point.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Wow, the Vikings will row their way to victory. I'm
gonna tell you, Steve, that would be a heck of
a prediction. So let's see. Let's see how that one goes, right, amazing.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Of course, we're only reminding me, by the way, Buck France, Spain, Argentina,
England are the top four, then Norway as the fifth
most likely to win the World Cup at this point.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
There you go, Steve Deviates. Everybody go check out Nation
States with Yates. Watch here we go. Thank you so much, Steve,
Thank you.
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And I do want to continue to hammer this because
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(16:12):
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of all of this. Okay, Steve, big question Buck is
I still think what is the exit strategy for the
(16:32):
situation in Iran. Let's say we go into carg Island.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Right.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
My concern is, and you've hit on this a lot,
we are dealing with fundamentalists who hate us. How do
we get out of carg Island? If we put boots
on the ground and we take over carg Island. We
know what happened in Afghanistan, how disastrous that withdrawal was.
We know what happened in Iraq, how is that? What
(16:59):
is the that's my concern. I'm curious what you would
say about this, and we can talk about it when
we come back here in a moment. But what is
the exit strategy by which we are able to get
out if we go in?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Well, I'll say this, which is a great dodge from
your question, which we'll have to hold everybody through the
break to get real answers on the other side. But
the problem with having an exit strategy is at some
point you actually have to exit, and those are not
the same thing. You can have an idea as to
what you'd like it to look like, but the enemy
gets more than just a vote in this process, and
(17:35):
it can get very messy and for a lot of people.
Trump had a very clear promise, No stupid, he's calling
some military operation. He won't call it a war. Once
you start having troops on the ground. And if we
start losing people, that's a war. Everyone knows that's a war.
Trump said, no. So we'll talk about this more.
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to play and Buck. What's gonna happen with carg Island?
Is Trump gonna hit Aron against tonight? Very important questions.
But I'm going rogue right now.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
That's what I'm gonna start calling a clay when I
want to throw something random in the mix. I'm going
rogue for a minute here on the show because I
may be flying in just a matter of days, and I.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Think this is going to get a lot of people.
This is gonna get a lot of people fired up.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
There is a by the way, it's your favorite clay.
Southwest Airlines, Oh yeah it is, so I know what
side of this you're taking Near Post reporting of Southwest
Airlines has issued an official The Dallaspace Airline posted the
following message on threads. You won't get off the plane
(19:41):
faster by standing up point zero zero one seconds after
the seat belt sign turns off. This is about the practice.
I'd never heard of call this before. Up I'll jumping. Yeah, now,
this is more complicated, some people think, because I agree,
I agree, you won't get off the plane faster. However,
(20:06):
who among us has not experienced the Oh I am
going to just sit like a civilized person until it's
close to me to get up. You know, it's close
to my turn to get up on the plane, to
depart and get off the aircraft. And I'm about to
stand up now and pull from my overhead bin, perhaps
(20:27):
my one bag, because I'm a civilized person who doesn't
bring ten bags with him. And I try to go,
and then you have that rush. It's like the running
of the bulls at Pamplona. Every which bar I were
just just trying to push past you, the barbarians rushing
through the gate while you trying to be civilized, are
(20:47):
all of a sudden deeply inconvenienced, and it's quite rude.
Where do you come down? What is the proper thing
to do when you land? By the way, not clapping? Okay,
we don't clap that we're not all dead. Beyond that,
that's point one point two?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Should you?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Just should everyone? If you try to sit, what about
the people who still stand up in the aisle?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Everyone?
Speaker 4 (21:15):
I will civilize all airline travel with several basic rules,
and I'm one hundred billion percent right on this, and
if you disagree, you are in the wrong. First of all,
everyone exits in.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Their row order.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
There are subtle variations that could change. For instance, I'll
give you one right general rule, and then there are
exceptions sometimes on Southwest flights. And I have not trying
to brag here, currently two point five million Southwest Airline
points I am in. I've got to be in the nine.
(21:49):
I should get to shake the hand of every pilot
every time I'm on a Southwest airline, So I'm not
kidding about this. In my Southwest Airlines account, I have
two point five million Southwest airline points. That has to
put me in ninety nine point nine percentile of Southwest Airlines.
Flyers get off in the order in which your seats
are there. Do not try to skip ahead. Exception, sometimes
(22:12):
they will come on and say, hey, there are twenty
people on this flight that have to catch a connecting flight.
We're asking everybody to remain seated, so people who have
to immediately go to catch a flight can get off first.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That's civil.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
And you know people cheat though on that right, which
I think. But if you cheat, if you're one of
those people, by the way, yes, a special place at
Hell for you when you pretend you have a connection
so you can just smoke on by everybody on the plane.
I'm not saying everyone does that. I'm saying there's always
one or two when they go by to you can
kind of tell.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Most people are going to agree with me on that
second point. You should never check a bag.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Ever.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I'm just gonna be straightforward on this. I don't know
if you sign off on this. There are a lot
of women who are gonna be ang angree about this
one buck. I would be fine going into any city
that I am going into and just buying a new
shirt and a new pair of shorts. You could go
to Old Navy and you could buy forty shirts and
eight pairs of pants and it costs like twenty six dollars. Okay,
(23:16):
like you can make up a whole brand new wardrobe
with I.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I forgot, you know, I was in New York for
a media event for US, so with Barrett. Media was great,
but I forgot to bring like person with a job
clothing which was not flies on my on my part,
all I had were like sweatpants, T shirts and shorts
because you know, that's how that's how I roll. I
went into this place, Clay I swear first time ever
in my life that was near our studio. I just
(23:41):
typed in closest place I can get like pants uniclothe.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I went in there.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
You have you ever been in one of these places
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buy new clothes? I bought pants were like thirty bucks. Yeah,
and they were nice, by the way, they're very nice.
But beyond that, I've also never felt so old in
my life. I feel like everyone shopping in there was
like sixteen, and I was like the old guy, Like
do these pads have a tight.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Hem, can someone explain to me whether there's an elastic
waistpan version.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Unless you are.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
A fashion model, no one cares what you wear that much, right,
Like I understand if you are the head of Gucci,
like what clothes you travel with matter. People are going
to judge you for it. You can go buy off
the rack and you will be fine. The standing and
waiting for your bag like a member of cattle and
(24:37):
hoping that somebody remembered to put it on. God forbid
your check. You're having to go to another airport and
hope that your bag gets there so that you can
wear whatever crappy clothes you happen to pack. It's not
worth it, pack less if you have to buy something.
Clothes don't cost that much, all right, So one bag,
(24:59):
put it in the o overhead if you can't travel
with one. And look, if you're going to UH, you know,
if you're going away to college for uh for eight months,
you should drive in a car, right Like you can't
go to college or if you're moving to a new city.
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about going for
somewhere for like a vacation or a weekend trip.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Here's so we we got off.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
We got off the topic though of of so what
do you do on the plane When.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I immediately stand I immediately stand up. So you're a
quick standard. You're you're you're a quick standard. Well, I
always go aisle. So I'm getting old.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I want to stand up, and I like, I want
to stretch out the hamstrings and everything else.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I unbuckle the minute.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
You know what happened to me this this past flight
that I took over to Mount Rushmore this weekend. Buck
a woman, the flight attendant came around. So you know
what they say, put your phone in airplane mode?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah? I never put No one does it? Okay, no
one does it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
The flight attendant stood over me and made me put
my phone in airplane mode.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
She knew who you were. She was a lib and
she enjoyed every second of it. She said, sir, is
your phone in airplane mode? I was like, yeah, we're fine.
She said, let me see you put it in airplane mode.
I've never had it happen. A woman across the aisle
for me was like, I've never seen this happen. I
was like, have you ever seen this happen before?
Speaker 4 (26:19):
A flight attendant First of all, the airplane mode does nothing,
all right, Like you're not gonna bring the plane down
because your iPhone is not an air.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
It's a stoopid It's just the whole thing is absurd,
and we're gonna get pilots who were like, but it
could theoretically, yeah, but like ducks could also fly in
the engines at the same time, Like we can't worry
about this, all right, that's not that's crazy, okay. But
I have one more for you, since we're talking about
the quick standers, which is a thing that I've just
made up which should probably catch on because that's what
it's a quick stand, right you. Instead of quickstand, you
(26:50):
immediately stand up as soon as it as soon as
the plane lands, like right away. The people who are
always blocking the lane when it's not their turn when
they're boarding by, you know, like one through seven or
one through eight, yes, and you're like, okay, I'm in
zone three or I'm in zone five, it is now
(27:11):
my time.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
To go up.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
And you're like, you're like shouldering around all these people
who are right where they're supposed to walk in and
they're like on zoned eight and you're like, is this
your first time on an airplane. Is this the first
time you've ever done this before? Like, if it is,
that's okay. But if it's not, we have to have
a talk.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah, you're blocking everything. It's a bad problem. The Southwest
has done away with the A, the B, the C,
which I thought worked pretty well, and now they have
all these zones. Nobody has any idea. It's like, no,
I'm out there. Uh one more for you, buck. I
flew Hawaiian Airlines uh back and I was in a window,
which is not my ideal choice. All the way back
(27:51):
in coach. I'm not kidding. I might have had two
inches of space for my knee knees. I'm six foot.
They're like, I'm huge. I'm six foot. The guy in
front of me reclined. We have got to end all
reclining on unless you're flying to Europe, and it's like, hey,
everybody's gonna sleep. Reclining your seat on another man who
(28:16):
is around normal size, he might, as.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
You know what I mean, he might as well just
snuggle up to you.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
I can't even bring down my tray then, so there
there might no reclining, don't check your bags, and no
jumping to try to save eight seconds on deplaning.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
And by the way, let me also add this, I'm
gonna give a positive men should offer to put bags
up in the overhead bin more than men offer to
put up in the overhead ben.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
We we it's your opportunity to be in everyday hero
all the time. But I will say you will occasionally,
you will occasionally come across a female.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yes, notice I didn't say lady.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
A female who is like insulted by the notion that
she needs help.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
That is another thing that will happen. And I'm fine
with that.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
If you're insulted because I'm too kind to you, that's
on you, not me. I see some men, able bodied men, women,
and I will say, you're bringing a bag that's too
big to be fair, But they are trying to. I mean,
it's like they have to muscle every ounce of their
physical strength to get the bag up high enough.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
It can be dangerous for bystanders too, because then you
have the you have the wobbly, the wobbly bag pusher
who all of a sudden you're oh huh, and like
they're like women and children nearby who might get hit
by this bag.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Now, my wife and your wife not tall.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
It's actually a heavy like it's not only in the lift,
it's also quite a bit taller if you're a normal
sized man.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
This is my charge to all of you.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Offer to help women put their bags up more frequently
if you're in the aisle, trying to always sit in
the aisle because at least you have a little bit
of more movement and space. The literally the least you
can do is try to help them. By the way,
it's faster oftentime. You know what happens buck women try
to get those bags up and then they put it
(30:11):
in the wrong way right so the overhead doesn't shut.
So then they're standing up there trying to change it
like eight different ways, especially by the way, elderly women
even more difficult. Men should offer to help women get
their bags in the overhead more than we do.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I think.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
The only time I actually started to become in favor
of like the Chinese social credit system that they have,
where it's like every aspect of your life is on
you know, is data that is collated and ready for
the government is when it comes to flying, it should
be almost like a driver's test, like you should be
able to show that this isn't the first time you've
(30:51):
ever done this, and like, you're not going to show
up at TSA with six diet coke bottles in your bag. Look,
you can't bring these on the plane, and then you're
not going to like.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
To be fair, it's been twenty five years since nine
to eleven, a quarter of a century, right, this is
the only advantage to TSA pre check is in general
people have flown on airplanes before in the TSA pre
check line. The number of people twenty This is why
we can't change rules twenty five years after nine to eleven.
(31:21):
I can't bring my gun. No, No, it's you can't
just walk through. You just can't walk through with your gun.
Like the rules are not that complicated. Learn them.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, I agree, I agree with all that, but yeah,
quick standards getting heat from Southwest they're saying, don't you
don't need to stand I don't know. I think I
want to establish I think I have to establish my
aisle control right away. And I think everyone knows that
because otherwise you just allow people to to just cut
past you, because that's what they do. Because the world
(31:51):
is a cruel, hard place, it's a jungle out there,
and there are barbarians in our midst.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
All right, we'll close out here. Maybe we'll solve the
Iran problem.
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Preset Clay and Buck on the iHeart.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
App Welcome back in. We got tons of reactions. I
bet the talkbacks are going to be amazing after all that.
Let me try to run through as many of you
that have been waiting a while to uh to get
to your Christian in Atlanta. You said you had a
great deplaning experience.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
What happened? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (33:29):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Okay, Yeah, we got you. Okay.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
So I was in Spain yesterday, got back last night
on Iberian Airlines. And the way they do it is
they land and make an announcement. Everyone please remain seated.
We will make announcements on deplaning. And when we get
to the gate, they say Rose one through five may
now get up and board. Everyone else remain seated, And
(33:55):
they give them a minute, and then they say now
Rose six through ten may get up. Everyone else remains
and we got off that plane in like five minutes.
It was so organized, so it works better Germany, it.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Works about Thank you. I've never heard of that before. Buck.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Have you ever heard like dplaning by ro I have
never heard of that. Thank you, Christian. That's interesting. I'm
all in favor of whatever could get you on the
plane and off the plane.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Although my father in law tells me, by the way
Clay and Real, who was a retired American airlines pilot,
he says that COVID during COVID, when people started flying again,
obviously dplaning when as it should, everyone stayed heated until
the rowehead got up. It was a thing of beauty.
But now it's back to chaos. So there was a lot.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
I wonder if that was just the quality of person
that was flying early in COVID days was more concidered.
I don't know, more consider Is that possible, Daven, We
got a lot of variety of topics.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I think people were just scared to be close to
people to be I don't think it was courtesy. I
think they were scared of.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
I wasn't me.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I don't think I ever stopped flying. I was flying
in a Maya twenty twenty Dave in Kentucky.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
Erry Clay and Buck. Thanks for taking my call before
I get to my Iran thing. As a retired Southwest
Airlines pilot, I can't thank you guys enough for being
so kind to my beloved airline and all that you're
saying is absolutely true about what some of these changes
to try to encourage some civilian behavior.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Thank you for your service at Southwest. I love you guys.
And what were you going to say about Iran?
Speaker 6 (35:33):
Well, Iran? I happen to agree with Steve Yease a
lot that it seems to me that we have an
amazing amount of technological ability that we could pick and
choose strategically to inhibit control of Carent Island, inhibit control
(35:54):
of water and electricity in places that are going to needs,
have these people in the best possible way, and put
them under some severe pressure, and we can do it
without hurting the civilian population. At least that's my thought.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Anyway, Thank you, thank you. All right, thirty second Sean,
maybe ten seconds.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
Is all right with President President Trump is done with
Iran's crap. Why don't they prioritize the rest of the
targets and start hitting the target every hour until Iran
goes on TV Public and submits.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
I just love the way he said target Buck. I
think Trump's done with fed up. I mean, I think
it's an interesting point. Donnie and Florida says, what about
people with bags that are too big?
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
How about you figure out whether it's going to fit
in the overhead or not beforehand?
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Pack less help? What I be civilized?
Third hour, Clay end Bock gets going right now. Thanks
for being here with us.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We're joined by our friend Steve Yates, Senior fel at
the Heritage Foundation post of the podcast network CNB podcast
Network show Nation States with Yates, which is awesome. Definitely
go check that one out. Guys, mister Yates, pleasure to
have you. As always, I wanted to have you react
(00:24):
to we played as the first hour of the program,
but I wanted to have you react to what Trump
has said as of this morning on the Iran negotiation situation,
guys play seventeen.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
To me, I think it's over. I don't want to
deal with them, and then with this scum. You know
what scum is there? Scum, there's sick people. They're led
by sick people and the vicious, violent people, and if
they had a nuclear weapon, they'd use it.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
As far as I'm concerned, it's over.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I'll speak to our negotiators. They want to negotiate. They're
good people, Steve Woodcuff, Jared Kusher, but they have to
come back to me. As far as I'm concerned, it's
just a waste of time.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Dealing with them, the liars.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We make a deal and if I make a deal
with him, we have a deal, and he goes out,
he talks, We make a deal, everyone's agreed, no nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
We make a deal. They go outside, talk to the press.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
They say, we never even talked about it. There's something
wrong with him.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
They're cuckoo.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
As far as I'm concerned, it's over. They're bad people,
and frankly, I don't want to waste my time with
him now. I'll let our wonderful negotiators keep talking if
they want.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
But I don't see it. I don't like these people.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You know that they're sick people. There's scum yates. Doesn't
sound like this is about to get to a happy ending.
What where did Steve go.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
He talked to We're gonna get back him back up.
We've got the videos. Just FYI. We're going to have
three hours of video. That probably means that we'll have
now opportunity to have tech failures on both video and audio,
which is, you know, something that may happen, but we're live.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Very few people do this live, three hours video, radio, everything.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
But the positive is most of the time this will
work and we will be able to be everywhere. Six
hundred radio stations satellite radio. And now you'll have a
video version of the program for those of you out
there that want to stream it on YouTube. We're gonna
have it lots of other places. Is Steve back up
(02:28):
and rolling?
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Did the Iranians? Okay? So they're gonna try to get
Iranians knocked off?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
As comms Clay, the Gayetola, as you call him, clearly
running a cyber op against Yates so that he cannot
explain the next step to defeat Iran.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
On the show The gay Atola, we got Steve Yates back.
I don't know if he heard your question, Buck, but
basically we were saying, Trump says Steve that he can
no longer trust in any way eron what happens now?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
What is the next step? So far as you can
see it?
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Well, Clay, I mean, really, for a lot of us
that have deep experience in this, we're not surprised that
the president arriving at this point, but can sort of
forgive him for having been impeached multiple times and butchered
by the establishment, that he wants to experience some of
these things for himself. When he's asked why, he said
that it was the negotiations were going well before, and
why they're so bad now it is because I got
to know them, and I think he did, and so
(03:29):
I think he's arrived at the correct judgment. We had
lifted some of the economic pressure temporarily. The Treasury Department
put that back on yesterday, the President may clear, we're
hitting them last night and tonight, and so I think
we're back to basics. The main question is how much
further can we degrade the IRGC, that is the revolutionary Guard,
(03:51):
that's the most radical element that has military capability, and
he's trying to beat them down into a place where
we can maybe get some kind of a management routine.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
So the options that are being discussed now, Steve, are
still things that we've heard.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
There are things we've heard about before.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
But for example, the one that really sticks out to me,
I just I don't believe, and more importantly, I don't
think the Iranians believe. And if you disagree, by all means, Steve,
let us know that Trump is going to blow up
their desalinization plants and blow up all their power plants.
I don't think he's going to do that. Carg Island though,
(04:33):
to me, that I put in the more of the
realm of the possible. Do you assess that similarly, And
if we were to do the carg Island operation, what
would that look like and could we pull it off?
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Well, we always could have pulled it off. It was
a little bit of a mystery to me why that
wasn't early in the mix. There probably was a reason
that it was just beyond my line of sight. I
see it identically then that I don't think he wants
to nuke essentially the civil infrastructure of the country. That
creates a whole range of uncertainties that could be problems
(05:11):
for our allies, could be problems for us, And so
I think he wants to try to focus on degrading
the militancy, and I think we can do a lot
of that by doing what they've been doing along the coasts.
They can hit deeply into the military decision making process.
They've hit the manufacturing. The carg Island part should be
the game overpoint, because that is what allows the regime
(05:34):
to fund and survive. And I think that we have
some capabilities in place to be able to do it
with minimal risk of casualties.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And so it would four Star General Yates in our
in our scenario, would four star General Yates tell the President,
mister President, we should do this, we should take car guy.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Look, that's the only logical next step. Where do you
put it?
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I would I would put I would put that very
high on the list. Now, first, for me me, the
absolute priority is we have to prove that anyone can
move the in the Straits and that if they're fired upon,
the enemy is greased immediately. That just has to be
the case, because we have got to get have to
demonstrate the freedom of navigation matters. I think carg Island
(06:17):
is a longer term step. It means that they pay
a price for the ropodope that they've used on the
President for these several months. And it's not invading and
occupying Iran proper. It's an island, and so I think
it falls short of the red line of no invade
and occupy, but imposes a cost that I think most
of the world and I think most Americans would agree,
(06:37):
they deserve to pay.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Okay, I'm fascinated by this, and Buck and I were
talking about it a little bit earlier. So two parter
for you on the Carg Island front.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
One, do you.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Believe that we would be able to take Carg Island
and continue to basically produce, refine whatever is necessary Iranian
oil and gas to keep going onto the mar. Not
dissimilar in some ways to what has happened in Venezuela, right,
except in Venezuela we had Delsea Rodriguez who was a
(07:08):
partner that would work with us. Is that possible in Iran?
That's part one, Part two? And I asked Buck this earlier.
You're dealing with crazy people on some level in Iran.
Is it possible that if we seized Carg Island that
Iran elements of Iran might decide, Okay, fine, we'll just
(07:29):
blow up our own oil and gas infrastructure. Are they
that crazy? That's two big ones.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Well, I think that second big one is legitimate in
front and center. I think we can't put that at
a zero probability. In fact, I do think there's a
sort of suicidal element to this cult that runs this
theocratic state, and so if they perceive themselves to be losing,
and I do perceive them to be losing, then they
would potentially reach for things like that. So to me,
(07:56):
Carg Island the value is taking it off the table
for them. The United States of America will survive if
carg Island does not exist, and so taking it away
from them, I think is step one. If it could
be used in the Venezuela sense, that's an intriguing probability,
one that we have to have a high sense that
(08:17):
President Trump would be interested in exploring. But the security
of that is very, very problematic because of its geographic
proximity to Mayland, Iran. So to me, it's first take
it out of their hands, prove that that can be done,
and see whether we've got a different set of facts
to deal with with this regime.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Do we Buck at question on this? Do we have
any idea how many people it would take to take
carg Island. We're talking about how many people you may
have lost him again, I think the Gaetola might really
be trying to take out Steve here, because you've given
us some good information. The question that I asked to me, Buck,
(08:55):
I think is a huge part of this. It is
how many people would need to be involved in order
to secure a carg Island, Right, Well, it would the
taking it, I think is a lot easier than the
holding it, most likely because Okay, Steve.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You're gonna You're gonna run us through the operation to
take carg Island. Strap on your helmet, get out your
M four.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
What happens, Well, no one hired me to be a
special ops general, but I would say, you know, basically
your ways of decisions. I mean, there's a lot that
we can do with technology without having to risk the
lives and well being of our troops. And so there's
a lot that we can do to make this island
go silent, and then once it's silent, sort of like
(09:36):
we used to say in the Vietnam War, we rule
the night, and so we have abilities that no one
else has. And just like when they went into Venezuela
to invite in the Duro to peaceably come to the
United States of America to face justice, there are things
that we can do. I don't think it is beyond
the realm to to do it with low risk of casualties,
(09:59):
heavy emphasis on technology and unmanned kinds of platforms, and
really again the question would be do you just leave
it to rot, do you try to operate it or
is it going to just be blown up?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Speaking of Steve Yates, Nation States with Yates as his
podcast and all things national security. Where do you see
this going Steve? Now I'm asking for crystal ball Yates.
Where do you think this goes next? I mean, the
President clearly very frustrated, but also it doesn't seem like
to me he's surprised. Right, there's a lot of frustration,
but not a lot of surprise in his tone. So
(10:37):
he knew that this was a possibility. What do you
think the next ninety days looks like? And how confident
are you in the oil price situation continuing to be
at a reasonable stable place.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Well, that gets first and foremost. We have to demonstrate
that we're escorting and providing security for vessels to move
through the Strait and it's more of annoyance fire from
the Iranians at this point, and we should be able
to help defend against that. We should be able to
pressure allies to step in and do more to defend
against that. That will have a bigger impact on oil
markets than whither this regime and these on again off
(11:16):
against cease fires. Now, I think that basically the President
is intent on something them pretty hard and seeing whether
they're going to come back and get serious. And he
says he doesn't have any more use for negotiations, but
he seems to have an endless appetite for searching for deals,
and so I think he's trying to change the fact pattern.
(11:37):
See where we are, But I think it's important that
we fundamentally degrade the IRGC in this season of the
next week or so. See what's going on in the
straight in the next week or so, and do we
have to move on carb Island in the next week
or so. If we don't have any meaningful change on
those variables over that period, then we're just sitting I think,
(11:58):
spinning wheels.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Who's gonna win the World Cup?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Steve Well, I know that you have planted the flag
on the country that we defeated in the Revolutionary War,
But I have to say that I am among the
many that have been taken in by the Viking, who
is the most charismatic figure of this World Cup.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I would say, oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
And I think there are not odds on favorite Clay
may know better these odds of this foreign sport to
me known as soccer. But I have to say it's
been much much more interesting than I expected, and I
am all for a team Norway at this point.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Wow, the Vikings will row their way to victory. I'm
gonna tell you, Steve, that would be a heck of
a prediction. So let's see. Let's see how that one goes, right, amazing.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Of course, we're only reminding me, by the way, Buck France, Spain, Argentina,
England are the top four, then Norway as the fifth
most likely to win the World Cup at this point.
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I still think what is the exit strategy for the
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situation in Iran. Let's say we go into carg Island.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Right.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
My concern is, and you've hit on this a lot,
we are dealing with fundamentalists who hate us. How do
we get out of carg Island? If we put boots
on the ground and we take over carg Island. We
know what happened in Afghanistan, how disastrous that withdrawal was.
We know what happened in Iraq, how is that? What
(16:59):
is the that's my concern. I'm curious what you would
say about this, and we can talk about it when
we come back here in a moment. But what is
the exit strategy by which we are able to get
out if we go in?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Well, I'll say this, which is a great dodge from
your question, which we'll have to hold everybody through the
break to get real answers on the other side. But
the problem with having an exit strategy is at some
point you actually have to exit, and those are not
the same thing. You can have an idea as to
what you'd like it to look like, but the enemy
gets more than just a vote in this process, and
(17:35):
it can get very messy and for a lot of people.
Trump had a very clear promise, No stupid, he's calling
some military operation. He won't call it a war. Once
you start having troops on the ground. And if we
start losing people, that's a war. Everyone knows that's a war.
Trump said, no. So we'll talk about this more.
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Is Trump gonna hit Aron against tonight? Very important questions.
But I'm going rogue right now.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
That's what I'm gonna start calling a clay when I
want to throw something random in the mix. I'm going
rogue for a minute here on the show because I
may be flying in just a matter of days, and I.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Think this is going to get a lot of people.
This is gonna get a lot of people fired up.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
There is a by the way, it's your favorite clay.
Southwest Airlines, Oh yeah it is, so I know what
side of this you're taking Near Post reporting of Southwest
Airlines has issued an official The Dallaspace Airline posted the
following message on threads. You won't get off the plane
(19:41):
faster by standing up point zero zero one seconds after
the seat belt sign turns off. This is about the practice.
I'd never heard of call this before. Up I'll jumping. Yeah, now,
this is more complicated, some people think, because I agree,
I agree, you won't get off the plane faster. However,
(20:06):
who among us has not experienced the Oh I am
going to just sit like a civilized person until it's
close to me to get up. You know, it's close
to my turn to get up on the plane, to
depart and get off the aircraft. And I'm about to
stand up now and pull from my overhead bin, perhaps
(20:27):
my one bag, because I'm a civilized person who doesn't
bring ten bags with him. And I try to go,
and then you have that rush. It's like the running
of the bulls at Pamplona. Every which bar I were
just just trying to push past you, the barbarians rushing
through the gate while you trying to be civilized, are
(20:47):
all of a sudden deeply inconvenienced, and it's quite rude.
Where do you come down? What is the proper thing
to do when you land? By the way, not clapping? Okay,
we don't clap that we're not all dead. Beyond that,
that's point one point two?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Should you?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Just should everyone? If you try to sit, what about
the people who still stand up in the aisle?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Everyone?
Speaker 4 (21:15):
I will civilize all airline travel with several basic rules,
and I'm one hundred billion percent right on this, and
if you disagree, you are in the wrong. First of all,
everyone exits in.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Their row order.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
There are subtle variations that could change. For instance, I'll
give you one right general rule, and then there are
exceptions sometimes on Southwest flights. And I have not trying
to brag here, currently two point five million Southwest Airline
points I am in. I've got to be in the nine.
(21:49):
I should get to shake the hand of every pilot
every time I'm on a Southwest airline, So I'm not
kidding about this. In my Southwest Airlines account, I have
two point five million Southwest airline points. That has to
put me in ninety nine point nine percentile of Southwest Airlines.
Flyers get off in the order in which your seats
are there. Do not try to skip ahead. Exception, sometimes
(22:12):
they will come on and say, hey, there are twenty
people on this flight that have to catch a connecting flight.
We're asking everybody to remain seated, so people who have
to immediately go to catch a flight can get off first.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That's civil.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
And you know people cheat though on that right, which
I think. But if you cheat, if you're one of
those people, by the way, yes, a special place at
Hell for you when you pretend you have a connection
so you can just smoke on by everybody on the plane.
I'm not saying everyone does that. I'm saying there's always
one or two when they go by to you can
kind of tell.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Most people are going to agree with me on that
second point. You should never check a bag.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Ever.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I'm just gonna be straightforward on this. I don't know
if you sign off on this. There are a lot
of women who are gonna be ang angree about this
one buck. I would be fine going into any city
that I am going into and just buying a new
shirt and a new pair of shorts. You could go
to Old Navy and you could buy forty shirts and
eight pairs of pants and it costs like twenty six dollars. Okay,
(23:16):
like you can make up a whole brand new wardrobe
with I.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I forgot, you know, I was in New York for
a media event for US, so with Barrett. Media was great,
but I forgot to bring like person with a job
clothing which was not flies on my on my part,
all I had were like sweatpants, T shirts and shorts
because you know, that's how that's how I roll. I
went into this place, Clay I swear first time ever
in my life that was near our studio. I just
(23:41):
typed in closest place I can get like pants uniclothe.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I went in there.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
You have you ever been in one of these places
to be brand? But what did it cost you to
buy new clothes? I bought pants were like thirty bucks. Yeah,
and they were nice, by the way, they're very nice.
But beyond that, I've also never felt so old in
my life. I feel like everyone shopping in there was
like sixteen, and I was like the old guy, Like
do these pads have a tight.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Hem, can someone explain to me whether there's an elastic
waistpan version.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Unless you are.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
A fashion model, no one cares what you wear that much, right,
Like I understand if you are the head of Gucci,
like what clothes you travel with matter. People are going
to judge you for it. You can go buy off
the rack and you will be fine. The standing and
waiting for your bag like a member of cattle and
(24:37):
hoping that somebody remembered to put it on. God forbid
your check. You're having to go to another airport and
hope that your bag gets there so that you can
wear whatever crappy clothes you happen to pack. It's not
worth it, pack less if you have to buy something.
Clothes don't cost that much, all right, So one bag,
(24:59):
put it in the o overhead if you can't travel
with one. And look, if you're going to UH, you know,
if you're going away to college for uh for eight months,
you should drive in a car, right Like you can't
go to college or if you're moving to a new city.
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about going for
somewhere for like a vacation or a weekend trip.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Here's so we we got off.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
We got off the topic though of of so what
do you do on the plane When.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I immediately stand I immediately stand up. So you're a
quick standard. You're you're you're a quick standard. Well, I
always go aisle. So I'm getting old.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I want to stand up, and I like, I want
to stretch out the hamstrings and everything else.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I unbuckle the minute.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
You know what happened to me this this past flight
that I took over to Mount Rushmore this weekend. Buck
a woman, the flight attendant came around. So you know
what they say, put your phone in airplane mode?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah? I never put No one does it? Okay, no
one does it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
The flight attendant stood over me and made me put
my phone in airplane mode.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
She knew who you were. She was a lib and
she enjoyed every second of it. She said, sir, is
your phone in airplane mode? I was like, yeah, we're fine.
She said, let me see you put it in airplane mode.
I've never had it happen. A woman across the aisle
for me was like, I've never seen this happen. I
was like, have you ever seen this happen before?
Speaker 4 (26:19):
A flight attendant First of all, the airplane mode does nothing,
all right, Like you're not gonna bring the plane down
because your iPhone is not an air.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
It's a stoopid It's just the whole thing is absurd,
and we're gonna get pilots who were like, but it
could theoretically, yeah, but like ducks could also fly in
the engines at the same time, Like we can't worry
about this, all right, that's not that's crazy, okay. But
I have one more for you, since we're talking about
the quick standers, which is a thing that I've just
made up which should probably catch on because that's what
it's a quick stand, right you. Instead of quickstand, you
(26:50):
immediately stand up as soon as it as soon as
the plane lands, like right away. The people who are
always blocking the lane when it's not their turn when
they're boarding by, you know, like one through seven or
one through eight, yes, and you're like, okay, I'm in
zone three or I'm in zone five, it is now
(27:11):
my time.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
To go up.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
And you're like, you're like shouldering around all these people
who are right where they're supposed to walk in and
they're like on zoned eight and you're like, is this
your first time on an airplane. Is this the first
time you've ever done this before? Like, if it is,
that's okay. But if it's not, we have to have
a talk.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah, you're blocking everything. It's a bad problem. The Southwest
has done away with the A, the B, the C,
which I thought worked pretty well, and now they have
all these zones. Nobody has any idea. It's like, no,
I'm out there. Uh one more for you, buck. I
flew Hawaiian Airlines uh back and I was in a window,
which is not my ideal choice. All the way back
(27:51):
in coach. I'm not kidding. I might have had two
inches of space for my knee knees. I'm six foot.
They're like, I'm huge. I'm six foot. The guy in
front of me reclined. We have got to end all
reclining on unless you're flying to Europe, and it's like, hey,
everybody's gonna sleep. Reclining your seat on another man who
(28:16):
is around normal size, he might, as.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
You know what I mean, he might as well just
snuggle up to you.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
I can't even bring down my tray then, so there
there might no reclining, don't check your bags, and no
jumping to try to save eight seconds on deplaning.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
And by the way, let me also add this, I'm
gonna give a positive men should offer to put bags
up in the overhead bin more than men offer to
put up in the overhead ben.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
We we it's your opportunity to be in everyday hero
all the time. But I will say you will occasionally,
you will occasionally come across a female.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yes, notice I didn't say lady.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
A female who is like insulted by the notion that
she needs help.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
That is another thing that will happen. And I'm fine
with that.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
If you're insulted because I'm too kind to you, that's
on you, not me. I see some men, able bodied men, women,
and I will say, you're bringing a bag that's too
big to be fair, But they are trying to. I mean,
it's like they have to muscle every ounce of their
physical strength to get the bag up high enough.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
It can be dangerous for bystanders too, because then you
have the you have the wobbly, the wobbly bag pusher
who all of a sudden you're oh huh, and like
they're like women and children nearby who might get hit
by this bag.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Now, my wife and your wife not tall.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
It's actually a heavy like it's not only in the lift,
it's also quite a bit taller if you're a normal
sized man.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
This is my charge to all of you.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Offer to help women put their bags up more frequently
if you're in the aisle, trying to always sit in
the aisle because at least you have a little bit
of more movement and space. The literally the least you
can do is try to help them. By the way,
it's faster oftentime. You know what happens buck women try
to get those bags up and then they put it
(30:11):
in the wrong way right so the overhead doesn't shut.
So then they're standing up there trying to change it
like eight different ways, especially by the way, elderly women
even more difficult. Men should offer to help women get
their bags in the overhead more than we do.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I think.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
The only time I actually started to become in favor
of like the Chinese social credit system that they have,
where it's like every aspect of your life is on
you know, is data that is collated and ready for
the government is when it comes to flying, it should
be almost like a driver's test, like you should be
able to show that this isn't the first time you've
(30:51):
ever done this, and like, you're not going to show
up at TSA with six diet coke bottles in your bag. Look,
you can't bring these on the plane, and then you're
not going to like.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
To be fair, it's been twenty five years since nine
to eleven, a quarter of a century, right, this is
the only advantage to TSA pre check is in general
people have flown on airplanes before in the TSA pre
check line. The number of people twenty This is why
we can't change rules twenty five years after nine to eleven.
(31:21):
I can't bring my gun. No, No, it's you can't
just walk through. You just can't walk through with your gun.
Like the rules are not that complicated. Learn them.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, I agree, I agree with all that, but yeah,
quick standards getting heat from Southwest they're saying, don't you
don't need to stand I don't know. I think I
want to establish I think I have to establish my
aisle control right away. And I think everyone knows that
because otherwise you just allow people to to just cut
past you, because that's what they do. Because the world
(31:51):
is a cruel, hard place, it's a jungle out there,
and there are barbarians in our midst.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
All right, we'll close out here. Maybe we'll solve the
Iran problem.
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Speaker 4 (33:09):
App Welcome back in. We got tons of reactions. I
bet the talkbacks are going to be amazing after all that.
Let me try to run through as many of you
that have been waiting a while to uh to get
to your Christian in Atlanta. You said you had a
great deplaning experience.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
What happened? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (33:29):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Okay, Yeah, we got you. Okay.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
So I was in Spain yesterday, got back last night
on Iberian Airlines. And the way they do it is
they land and make an announcement. Everyone please remain seated.
We will make announcements on deplaning. And when we get
to the gate, they say Rose one through five may
now get up and board. Everyone else remain seated, And
(33:55):
they give them a minute, and then they say now
Rose six through ten may get up. Everyone else remains
and we got off that plane in like five minutes.
It was so organized, so it works better Germany, it.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Works about Thank you. I've never heard of that before. Buck.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Have you ever heard like dplaning by ro I have
never heard of that. Thank you, Christian. That's interesting. I'm
all in favor of whatever could get you on the
plane and off the plane.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Although my father in law tells me, by the way
Clay and Real, who was a retired American airlines pilot,
he says that COVID during COVID, when people started flying again,
obviously dplaning when as it should, everyone stayed heated until
the rowehead got up. It was a thing of beauty.
But now it's back to chaos. So there was a lot.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
I wonder if that was just the quality of person
that was flying early in COVID days was more concidered.
I don't know, more consider Is that possible, Daven, We
got a lot of variety of topics.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I think people were just scared to be close to
people to be I don't think it was courtesy. I
think they were scared of.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
I wasn't me.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I don't think I ever stopped flying. I was flying
in a Maya twenty twenty Dave in Kentucky.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
Erry Clay and Buck. Thanks for taking my call before
I get to my Iran thing. As a retired Southwest
Airlines pilot, I can't thank you guys enough for being
so kind to my beloved airline and all that you're
saying is absolutely true about what some of these changes
to try to encourage some civilian behavior.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Thank you for your service at Southwest. I love you guys.
And what were you going to say about Iran?
Speaker 6 (35:33):
Well, Iran? I happen to agree with Steve Yease a
lot that it seems to me that we have an
amazing amount of technological ability that we could pick and
choose strategically to inhibit control of Carent Island, inhibit control
(35:54):
of water and electricity in places that are going to needs,
have these people in the best possible way, and put
them under some severe pressure, and we can do it
without hurting the civilian population. At least that's my thought.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Anyway, Thank you, thank you. All right, thirty second Sean,
maybe ten seconds.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
Is all right with President President Trump is done with
Iran's crap. Why don't they prioritize the rest of the
targets and start hitting the target every hour until Iran
goes on TV Public and submits.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
I just love the way he said target Buck. I
think Trump's done with fed up. I mean, I think
it's an interesting point. Donnie and Florida says, what about
people with bags that are too big?
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
How about you figure out whether it's going to fit
in the overhead or not beforehand?
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Pack less help? What I be civilized?
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