September 13, 2024 • 36 mins
Captain Sam Brown, Nevada Senate candidate and Army veteran who survived a bomb attack in Afghanistan, joined Clay and Buck to discuss his incredible story of survival, which he hopes to take with him to the U.S. Senate. Actor and author Kirk Cameron joins C&B to discuss his latest book and the spiritual reawakening he sees coming to America. Buck's bum knee.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour play and Buck starts right now. We are
joined by Captain Sam Brown. He is running for Senate
in Nevada, a critical Senate race. He is a combat veteran,
a Purple Heart recipient, got a new book out as
well a live day. Captain Brown, I honored to have
you on the program sir, first time I'm getting a
chance to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Thanks for being here.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It's great to be here. Thanks for having me on.
And look, if I may just for a moment, you
guys are doing a terrific job promoting this segment. I
got a text for my mother saying, son, I hear
you're going to be on the show today, So mother
out there, I love you. You took care of me
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for six months after I was wounded, and I just
want you to know that I am the man I
am today in large part because of your love and support.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Captain Brad, if I can just say, first off, your
mother sounds like an amazing mom and a great American,
and she also has phenomenal taste in radio, so we're
off to a very strong.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
We appreciate her listening and being aware and also having
done a fabulous job as a mom. As our own
moms did. But your story is a compelling one. Buck
you want to dive right back in here.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, Sam, I want to give you the opportunity to
just tell everybody about your story a bit and set
the table before we dive right into the thick of
your critical senate race in Nevada swing state. But what
does everyone? What should everyone know about how you got
to where you are today and why you're running for senate?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah. Look, it started with parents that loved this country
and instilled that in me as a child. And so look,
I'm of the generation I call, you know, the post
nine to eleven generation. I was a senior in high
school when our country was attacked, and I had gone
through the process applying to military academies, and before the
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end of two thousand and one, I got accepted to
West Point and reported there in July of O two
and that kind of put me on the trajectory where
I ended up, you know, commissioning as an infantry officer
serving in Afghanistan. You know, just the greatest you know,
honor and privilege in my life was to be entrusted
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with you know, those those men uh and on mission
for this country and in two thousand and eight, another
unit had been ambushed. They needed support, and we were
the closest ones to it. And you know, I still
believe that when you've got Americans under fire or under threat,
the right response is to run to the sound of
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the guns and go provide that support. And that's what
we did, and unfortunately hit a roadside bomb in the process.
But you know it, uh, it left one of my
soldiers killed and four of us wounded. But here, here's
the here's the thing I guess I want people to
know in part why I'm here. The greatest lesson I
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ever learned in my life didn't come from a former president,
didn't come from a commanding general. It came from one
of my soldiers, a young man from South Texas. As
I was burning there, laying in the desert and getting
the point where I knew I couldn't put the flames
out myself, and I didn't know if anyone else was
going to get to me. I was wrestling with the
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thoughts of how long is he going to take to
burn to death? What's the transition from this last and
that's going to be like and I gave up the
will to live, and in that next moment, I heard
the voice of one of my soldiers and he screamed out, sir,
I've got you, and it gave me a little spark
of hope. But his words weren't enough. If he just
stood away in safety and screamed out I've got you
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and didn't bring himself to me through the fire and
began to put out the flames, then I would have died.
But he did come to me. It was his actions
that actually saved my life. And look, I've detailed that
story and kind of the rest of my life in
this book that I just released last week on the
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sixteenth anniversary of my Live Day. It's called a Live Day.
Anyone can get it on Amazon. But that moment has
propelled me to where I'm at today, and I believe
that America is hurting. There's a lot of people that
are in that moment of crisis in their life, and
we've got people who will just call out, like you know,
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I've got you, but won't do anything about it. My
book is about it's not a political book. It's about
giving people hope who are desperate to just survive. And
in my book is sharing that story that message and
me running for the Senate is me following through. I'm
doing more than just talking but taking action.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
We're talking to Captain Sam Brown, and that story you
just told us is incredibly compelling, and I want to
go back to it for a moment. You said in
that moment you were thinking how long does it take
to burn to death? I can't even imagine what a
feeling like that would be. But as you are now
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running for the Senate, I would imagine that whatever can
be said about you when you have stared down death
as you did, it can't really come close to to
really kind of getting to you. What do you think
that moment has meant for your ability to serve Nevada
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and still continue to serve your country. I guess that
connection to me is really compelling. Take us into that
worldview if you could.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Absolutely so sore when you're teetering at that moment, and
I literally I gave up to will to list because
death was going to be relief from what I was
at and and so to survive. You know this kind
of this miraculous way. I've never lacked conviction that my
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life was spared for a reason, and so you know
this was this was kind of my my point of
really finding faith in God. And and that has that
went from being kind of just I head knowledge. I
call it, you know, acknowledging you know, historical facts and
becoming something that I really truly believe in my heart.
But I believe that's true for everyone, that we're all
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here for a purpose and a reason. And that experience
and the three years that followut I mean, my recovery
took three years. I was in and out of the
hospital over thirty surgeries. It was grueling, and that was
just the beginning of the rest of my life. But
that it steeled me, it hardened me for just such
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a time as this. And we all have the option
in life. Are we going to engage? Are we going
to use the talents we have or the endurance we've
built for a for a higher purpose. And having come
through that, I never lack conviction. And if anything, the
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you know, the the circumstances that we find ourselves in,
this gives me additional conviction and helps me dig in
even more and in my pursuit of trying to serve
others who who frankly need a champion.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
We're speaking to Captain Sam Brown, who is running in
Nevada telling us about his story. His book is a
live day Sam you are, I mean, it's it's an
amazing story. And this audience, you know, in particular, appreciates it.
A lot of current or former military and a lot
of military families listening in. You're stepping into the arena.
(07:49):
You're in the arena right now, running against an entrenched
democrat in Nevada. It is always uphill going against a Democrat.
I wanted you to tell everybody how this race is
shaping up so far and what the differences are between
the leadership that you would bring the United States Senate
versus your opponent, Jackie Rosen.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah. So most of the listeners, because they're you know,
politically attuned, are going to be familiar with the name
Harry Reid. And so you know, Jackie Roseen is her
start point is Harry Reid. She was a protege of
his and even though he's dead now, you know, his
legacy still lives on and he'd created, you know, somewhat
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of a machine here that brought her into the Senate
in twenty eighteen. She had served one term in the
House starting in twenty sixteen, but she's really been absent
from the state. And as you can imagine, someone who
didn't have to really work hard and create her own
path to representing the people of Nevada, she's she's just
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well conditioned to follow leadership, whether it's Chuck Schumer or
Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris she has been just a
follower along the way. Now, the impact that it's had
here in the state is we've got the second highest
unemployment rate in the nation, We've got the second highest
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energy costs in the nation, and people have been really
economically hurt by this. She also sits on the Homeland
Security Committee, a committee in a position where she got
to be able to push back, bring accountability, provide oversight
on the border crisis. And yet when President Trump was
still in office, she tried to slow roll and pushed
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back on his initiatives and under you know, Kamala Harris,
as the borders are in Joe Biden's leadership, she's done
nothing to bring accountability there. My offer to the folks
is quite the off. We do need someone who understands
the hardships of these economic policies. Look, here's an interesting contrast.
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Six years ago while she was running for Senate as
a congresswoman, I was working in an Amazon warehouse. I
know what it's like to work hard, you know, a
ten hour shift to be able to afford just enough today.
You know, I'm a successful businessman. I'd started a business
over these last six years, but you know, things are
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still tight for my family, just like a lot of Nevadas.
I bring that perspective, and that's what we need to
someone who understands the impact of the policies and can
lead on them.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
We're talking to Captain Sam Brown.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
You're going to be with President Trump later today in Nevada,
which is a battleground state. For people out there that
are listening to us right now. We know the Senate
race in twenty twenty two came.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Down to a razor's edge.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I would imagine that your polling and your data shows
that the whole state of Nevada is going to come
down to a couple of thousand votes one way or
the other. In all sincerity, how can people help you?
What do you see on the ground and what are
you expecting with this rally that Trump is going to
have with you later this afternoon this evening.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, people are hungry for leadership, and you're right. Just
two years ago it was the closest Senate race in
the nation. It was a razor's edge. We're standing polling
kind of shaping up like that again. But we've got
additional things in our favor. One of the reasons that
race was lost last cycle is we had Republicans not
turning out. There was over one hundred thousand Republicans that
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just didn't come out to vote, and so we've got
to get everyone committed to voting and you know, being
involved to the extent they can. People can go to
Captain Sam Brown dot com to contribute from across the nation.
But if you live in Nevada, you know people in Nevada.
At the end of the day, it's not who raises
the most money that wins, that who have the most
votes that wins. And our paulling is showing that it's
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very close. But we're we're pushing into into groups of
independents who haven't traditionally voted for Republicans, and Republicans haven't
really pursued. But I believe that, you know, sort of
a business philosophy, anyone can be a customer, any voter
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can any any registered voter out there could vote for me?
I need to go make the taste. We've been doing
that and we've seen the polls really tighten up and
we're right within the margin everra.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Now, outstanding stuff, Captain Sam Brown. If we were in Nevada,
we'd be voting for you. We know your mom is
thank her for listening. But we would also encourage everybody
out there in the state of Nevada get out work.
If you can afford, go donate at Captain Sam Brown
dot com. Tell President Trump we said hi, and have
a great event this evening.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Well do thank you, Thank you both, Thank you, and.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Thank you for your service, no doubt. I mean, that
was an incredibly compelling story from him. I'd encourage you
guys to go check out that book. But man, if
you have the opportunity and you're listening to us in
Nevada right now, are you kidding me? I mean, this
is a no brainer. And you just heard about Purple
Heart recipient deployed to Afghanistan to fight the war on terror.
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You just heard Captain Sam Brown tell his story twenty
three years ago. This week, first responders in and around
New York City Washington, d c. Race to save the
lives of those trapped in the Twin Towers and at
risk in the Pentagon. Since that moment, Tunnel to Towers
Foundation was created to provide relief and support to the
surviving families of those men and women lost in the
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line of duty, victims and first responders still suffering and
dying from nine to eleven right now. Yet children in
this nation are growing up unaware of America's darkest day.
The Tunnel to Towers Nine to eleven Institute is helping
educators teach children about nine to eleven any efforts this
organization does as part of their promise to never forget.
(14:03):
Let me interject you here for just to sec too.
I showed my kids, if you haven't seen it, the
man in the red Bandana. It's an incredible nine to
eleven story that ESPN did about a former lacrosse player
who was saving people's lives on nine to eleven in
the World Trade Center Towers, the South Tower to be specific.
(14:25):
It's a thirteen minute show, little interview and segment that
they did a story. I showed it to my boys
this week on nine to eleven. If you got young
kids and they haven't experienced nine to eleven and you
just want to show them one particular story. Maybe they
like sports like mine.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Do.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Let me give a shout out to the man in
the Red Bandana, which is an incredible Just type in
red Bandana on YouTube, it'll pop up. This is what
Frank Siller does. So many people out there that are
incredible saviors of our freedom and our ability to live
in this country without having to worry because of what
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heard from Captain Sam Brown, help our nation keep its
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us, Sam Brown, Captain Sam Brown,
My goodness, how incredible is that story? I wish I
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lived in Nevada so that I could vote for him.
Now I'm not gonna leave Tennessee. Would you ever hear
a politician and I bet you hopefully have done that
sometimes on this show, and you live in a state
different than that politician, but you think to yourself, my goodness,
that dude or that gal man, they really sound like
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somebody I would like to be supporting. Let me just say,
go to Captain Sam Brown dot com and donate money
to him, because you don't have to live in the
state to help him get his message out. And if
he can win in Nevada, not only does he make
a tremendous difference in terms of the Senate makeup, but
also I think he would be a very compelling voice
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in the United States Senate for all of us, not
just Nevada. So that is my stamp of endorsement. Not
that he needs it, but I know a lot of
you in Nevada are out there listening, and really, Adam
Laxalt came down to a couple of thousand votes in
his race in Nevada. Trump is going to come down
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to a couple of thousand votes. Captain Sam Brown's gonna
come down to a couple of thousand votes. Man Nevada
has got to get out and vote because I think
the difference between Kamala and Trump is massive. I think
the difference between Captain Sam Brown and the woman who
would be there without him Buck is a tremendous difference
as well.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Look, I think that you're going to see in some
of these Senate races, as you were mentioning, very very
tight margins and this notion of oh, it's not worth it,
or the system is all screwed over and it's all
a mess or whatever. Every vote is going to count,
especially in these important states. Every vote matters, it really does,
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Speaker 2 (18:54):
You know, it's been a.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Pretty heavy week and things are getting a little tense out
there with the news cycle so focused on politics, and
you know, Kamala wins at maybe the end of the
republic and the greatest experiment in human freedom in history.
But you know what I mean, like, we're gonna keep fighting,
or we're gonna keep our heads high. We're gonna We're
gonna stay positive no matter what I do.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Think Trump's gonna win.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
But put that aside for a second, put aside the
partisan stuff for a second year. To send you off
into the weekend with some positive vibes. As the gen
Z would say. Actor Kirk Cameron is with us now.
He's here to uplift us, inspire us. He's got a
new book, Born to Be Brave. How to be part
of America's spiritual comeback. Kirk, take it away, man, make
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everybody feel like it's all gonna be all right, sir.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
What a setup boy. I'm so I'm sorry, glad, Glad
I came in right now. It actually is the most
exciting time I can think of to be alive in
the last hundred years. I mean, the darkness is so
it is so opaque, that light is so easy to see.
All people have to do is turn it on. And
I'm telling you, honestly and truly with all of my heart.
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As I travel the country and I'm reading books of
virtue and character to children at public libraries, contra drag queens,
story hours and political corruption and economic collapse and moral sewage,
I'm finding thousands and thousands of parents and grandparents and
kids coming out of the woodwork to be a part
of a movement that will amplify light and light some
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brush fires of freedom and virtue and fan them to
spread them like wildfire across the country.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
People are waking up.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
I feel the rumblings of a great awakening, and I
can't wait to see what's going to happen over the
next couple of years.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I love the enthusiasm, Kirk. I just saw it.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Not pie in the sky by and by optimism.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
This is steak on the plate reality that I see
and that I believe with.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
All of my heart. Yeah, Clay, that wasn't a smack.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Down, And I was just wanting you, no, I know,
I've just got to buy play expensive steak soon in
like a week.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
That's what that made the board decision that he thought
Joe Biden was going to stay in the race, and
I said, of course not, He's going to drop out.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
But Kirk, I saw you. What night was it?
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Monday night at the Ami Racist premiere for Matt Walsh's
new film. And you have now moved to my hometown
of Nashville.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Welcome.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
It's thank you had to add new Tennesseeans. But I
want to also congratulate you. You have six kids of your own,
but you just became a grandfather. Yes, what is the
experience like? You obviously have had a bunch of kids already.
What does it feel like to be a grandfather. It's thrilling,
it's exciting. It's an exciting experience to have kids. Now
when you have a grandfather, it's it's definitely next level.
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I've heard that my whole life, and now I'm experiencing it.
I mean, she's got cheeks for weeks. She's already a
Bills fan, She's part of the mafia. She was stressed
out before the game the other day, and she just
crashed when the whole thing was done. We are loving
being grandparents. My wife and I are are just just
over the moon.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
It is cool and welcome.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Like I said to Nashville, tell us about this book.
So you have written a bunch of children's books now
for people out there who have been grew up basically
watching you. Now you've gone from I would say teen
idol on Growing Pains to now a grandpa. What has
that trajectory of your life been like and at what
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point did you decide, Hey, I really want to kind
of focus on telling stories to younger kids.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Well, I'm so. I'm so excited that I made it
this far. I'm now a grandfather.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
You know I didn't.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
I didn't pass away in my youth like a like
a like a teenage actor who just got so strung
out on which happens in a time.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Honestly, there's not very many that grow up, have six kids,
have one wife and become a grandkid who were a grandfather,
who were pop stars.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
So I mean that is a rare pathway. That is
a blessing that I'm so grateful for. And uh, yes,
I wrote this book that you're speaking of. It's called
Born to Be Brave. I have been spending the last
couple of years writing children's books and reading them to
three to five year olds to teach them things like
the fruit of the spirit, love, kindness, faithfulness, self control,
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and humility, contra drag queens, teaching them about pride and
self empowerment rather than self control and finding myself inundated
by parents who say that they feel silenced and marginalized, afraid,
they're not sure what to do, and then they throw
some of them throw a religious element into it and say,
but that's the way the Bible.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Says it's supposed to be.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
It's just gonna get worse and there's really nothing we
can do about it, and I go time out. No,
I think that's totally misplaced. That hopelessness is found nowhere
in the history of the family of faith, or the
scriptures or what I'm seeing right now. And I realized,
I need to put gas in the tank of the parents.
I need to put wind in the sales of the grandparents,
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the people who actually understand why this is the greatest
country in the world, so that they can have the
bravery encourage to get our kids to a place of
blessing and protection and teach them the things that we
are losing in this country.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
It's nice to hear a sense of optimism about how
the battle for spirituality or the spiritual battle is playing
out in this country and that I guess the good
guys and gals can win here. I mean, you're mentioning
obviously the book, I assume is a bit of a
template or some encouragement, perhaps you know, coaching from the
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sidelines here for how people can get more involved in
these battles themselves or just give them a framework, a
template for doing it. The book is Born to be Brave,
How to be a part of America's spiritual comeback. And So,
as a new grandparent, I got to say, you know,
you've got a lot of grandparents listening right now. I
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feel like the older I get, the more wisdom I
feel comes from the older generation in a lot of ways,
I'll be honest with you. How does that play into
the spiritual comeback?
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Yeah, many grandparents feel like, well I did my time
and I've had my opportunity to make a difference.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
No, no, no, no, you're just getting started.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
If you are somebody who loves God, loves your family,
and loves this country, listen, don't get bitter when you
watch the news. Get better, don't be a whiner, be
a winner. Don't complain about the culture. Create the culture
you have, the time, you have, the opportunity with the
next generation, they need you pour into them. That's what
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I need to be doing. Let me ask you this question, Clay,
what if the current cultural setback is really a divine
setup for a spiritual comeback led by the family of faith.
What if the political corruption, the moral collapse, the economic decline,
the spiritual apathy is really a wake up call for
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those of us who know exactly what's going on.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
We've been red pilled. We see what's happening.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
The promises of the enemy are turning out to be fake,
and now it's our time.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
To red pill everybody else. But we've got to do
it the right way.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
The only way out of the matrix, first of all,
is to start with the heart of humility and love.
And then we've got to speak the truth with boldness
and with courage, starting with myself, my family, and then
work our way out through our communities, to the state
and to the local level. And I believe that if
we lean into this bravery and courage that God has
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given his faithful followers, we can and we will realign
the nation with biblical, constitutional American values. It's happened before
it can happen again. It's called a great awakening, and.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
We're due for one.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
That was really well said, Kirk. And given your background
in Hollywood, I have a question for you. I just
mentioned we saw the Ami Racist premiere Matt Walsh's documentary.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Such a great movie should be required viewing for every American.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I thought it was fantastic, He's going to be on
with us Monday. But it seems to me, and I'm
curious if you feel this based on your background, that
even in Hollywood. I was reading in the Wall Street
Journal magazine about they're making an HBO. I think it
was series about the biblical David. There certainly has been
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a lot, it feels to me, whether it's the Sound
of Freedom, whether it's so many different movies out there,
ordinary angels that came out. I believe the Irwin brothers
are involved in those films, who are also located to
a large degree here in Nashville. Do you sense that
Hollywood is recognizing that there is a great cultural hunger
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for stories such as these and that that is allowing
people to maybe connect their emptiness inside with recognizing where
it's coming from.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Am I crazy?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Or is that starting to happen even from the cultural perspective?
Speaker 5 (28:07):
From what you see, I feel exactly what you're feeling,
and I see what you see, and what I believe
is that Hollywood has been ripping off the Biblical narrative
since the very beginning. They have wisely recognized the stories
that resonate most violently with the human hearts in a
good way. Stories of redemption, the hero's journey. You see
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it in every Marvel movie, in every Batman movie. You
see it everywhere. And it's the against all odds, when
all hope seems lost, story when the underdog undergoes a
transformation and comes back from the impossible to win the day.
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And it's in Lord of the Rings, it's in Narnia,
it's everywhere. And that's why I try to make the
movies that I make, the books that I write, and
the cartoons and children's programs that I'm producing. So that's
why people need to go see movies like that, the
movies you just talked about, Sound of Freedom, or the
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men mentoring and discipling the younger generation of men to
give them a sense of identity and purpose and destiny.
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I wrote, Born to Be Brave, because when we support
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Speaker 2 (30:16):
I feeling?
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So can I can?
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I ask?
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Here's what I'd love more than anything.
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Speaker 2 (31:03):
Thank you.
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Yeah, good Kirk cameraon Everybody Born to Be Brave, How
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Kirk.
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Always great to have you man. We'll see you soon.
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Appreciate both of you, guys.
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Thanks so much, Thank you, thank you.
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Find it in the Clay and Buck podcast feed, on
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up shop with all of you my thanks to Kirk Cameron.
He had a lot of people ready to run through
a wall with all that enthusiasm, and also Captain Sam
Brown links up to their Twitter profiles and their books
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You might need some coffee because you are having trouble.
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I know.
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And someone even told me maybe you should try pickleball.
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You ever tried. I've never tried it. Every one of
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I'm very good, but you know, I'm okay, lifelong tennis player,
and someone says, try pickleball play and this would be
like someone telling you stop watching college football, you should
watch college lacrosse instead.
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You're just like, what not totally different sport.
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Although I have heard lacrosse is amazing and one of
my kids is playing and buck this is the embarrassing
for me, as a guy who played it and talked
about a lot of sports. Last year, my seventh grader
was playing lacrosse. I had to pull out my phone
and look up lacrosse rules on Wikipedia. I had no
I'd never been to a game. I had no idea
what was going on. It might as well have been
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played college lacrosse I don't even know the rules, so
I think it's got in my blood kind of popular. Now, yeah,
I don't know. But to be fair to you, I mean,
I don't want to take it.
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It's cultural appropriation, as you know, guys wearing pink polo
shirts with the collars up taking it from the Native American.
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I don't want to insult you, but I'm gonna do
that to finish the week. I think your niece so bad.
I don't even think you could play pickleball right now.
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Wow, I'm.
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On that.
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I don't think it's probably true, Carrie. Car keep saying
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And I'm like, no, maybe have a good week at everyone,
Third hour play and Buck starts right now. We are
joined by Captain Sam Brown. He is running for Senate
in Nevada, a critical Senate race. He is a combat veteran,
a Purple Heart recipient, got a new book out as
well a live day. Captain Brown, I honored to have
you on the program sir, first time I'm getting a
chance to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Thanks for being here.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It's great to be here. Thanks for having me on.
And look, if I may just for a moment, you
guys are doing a terrific job promoting this segment. I
got a text for my mother saying, son, I hear
you're going to be on the show today, So mother
out there, I love you. You took care of me
(00:43):
for six months after I was wounded, and I just
want you to know that I am the man I
am today in large part because of your love and support.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Captain Brad, if I can just say, first off, your
mother sounds like an amazing mom and a great American,
and she also has phenomenal taste in radio, so we're
off to a very strong.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
We appreciate her listening and being aware and also having
done a fabulous job as a mom. As our own
moms did. But your story is a compelling one. Buck
you want to dive right back in here.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, Sam, I want to give you the opportunity to
just tell everybody about your story a bit and set
the table before we dive right into the thick of
your critical senate race in Nevada swing state. But what
does everyone? What should everyone know about how you got
to where you are today and why you're running for senate?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah. Look, it started with parents that loved this country
and instilled that in me as a child. And so look,
I'm of the generation I call, you know, the post
nine to eleven generation. I was a senior in high
school when our country was attacked, and I had gone
through the process applying to military academies, and before the
(01:56):
end of two thousand and one, I got accepted to
West Point and reported there in July of O two
and that kind of put me on the trajectory where
I ended up, you know, commissioning as an infantry officer
serving in Afghanistan. You know, just the greatest you know,
honor and privilege in my life was to be entrusted
(02:17):
with you know, those those men uh and on mission
for this country and in two thousand and eight, another
unit had been ambushed. They needed support, and we were
the closest ones to it. And you know, I still
believe that when you've got Americans under fire or under threat,
the right response is to run to the sound of
(02:37):
the guns and go provide that support. And that's what
we did, and unfortunately hit a roadside bomb in the process.
But you know it, uh, it left one of my
soldiers killed and four of us wounded. But here, here's
the here's the thing I guess I want people to
know in part why I'm here. The greatest lesson I
(02:58):
ever learned in my life didn't come from a former president,
didn't come from a commanding general. It came from one
of my soldiers, a young man from South Texas. As
I was burning there, laying in the desert and getting
the point where I knew I couldn't put the flames
out myself, and I didn't know if anyone else was
going to get to me. I was wrestling with the
(03:19):
thoughts of how long is he going to take to
burn to death? What's the transition from this last and
that's going to be like and I gave up the
will to live, and in that next moment, I heard
the voice of one of my soldiers and he screamed out, sir,
I've got you, and it gave me a little spark
of hope. But his words weren't enough. If he just
stood away in safety and screamed out I've got you
(03:41):
and didn't bring himself to me through the fire and
began to put out the flames, then I would have died.
But he did come to me. It was his actions
that actually saved my life. And look, I've detailed that
story and kind of the rest of my life in
this book that I just released last week on the
(04:02):
sixteenth anniversary of my Live Day. It's called a Live Day.
Anyone can get it on Amazon. But that moment has
propelled me to where I'm at today, and I believe
that America is hurting. There's a lot of people that
are in that moment of crisis in their life, and
we've got people who will just call out, like you know,
(04:24):
I've got you, but won't do anything about it. My
book is about it's not a political book. It's about
giving people hope who are desperate to just survive. And
in my book is sharing that story that message and
me running for the Senate is me following through. I'm
doing more than just talking but taking action.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
We're talking to Captain Sam Brown, and that story you
just told us is incredibly compelling, and I want to
go back to it for a moment. You said in
that moment you were thinking how long does it take
to burn to death? I can't even imagine what a
feeling like that would be. But as you are now
(05:08):
running for the Senate, I would imagine that whatever can
be said about you when you have stared down death
as you did, it can't really come close to to
really kind of getting to you. What do you think
that moment has meant for your ability to serve Nevada
(05:31):
and still continue to serve your country. I guess that
connection to me is really compelling. Take us into that
worldview if you could.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Absolutely so sore when you're teetering at that moment, and
I literally I gave up to will to list because
death was going to be relief from what I was
at and and so to survive. You know this kind
of this miraculous way. I've never lacked conviction that my
(06:05):
life was spared for a reason, and so you know
this was this was kind of my my point of
really finding faith in God. And and that has that
went from being kind of just I head knowledge. I
call it, you know, acknowledging you know, historical facts and
becoming something that I really truly believe in my heart.
But I believe that's true for everyone, that we're all
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here for a purpose and a reason. And that experience
and the three years that followut I mean, my recovery
took three years. I was in and out of the
hospital over thirty surgeries. It was grueling, and that was
just the beginning of the rest of my life. But
that it steeled me, it hardened me for just such
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a time as this. And we all have the option
in life. Are we going to engage? Are we going
to use the talents we have or the endurance we've
built for a for a higher purpose. And having come
through that, I never lack conviction. And if anything, the
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you know, the the circumstances that we find ourselves in,
this gives me additional conviction and helps me dig in
even more and in my pursuit of trying to serve
others who who frankly need a champion.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
We're speaking to Captain Sam Brown, who is running in
Nevada telling us about his story. His book is a
live day Sam you are, I mean, it's it's an
amazing story. And this audience, you know, in particular, appreciates it.
A lot of current or former military and a lot
of military families listening in. You're stepping into the arena.
(07:49):
You're in the arena right now, running against an entrenched
democrat in Nevada. It is always uphill going against a Democrat.
I wanted you to tell everybody how this race is
shaping up so far and what the differences are between
the leadership that you would bring the United States Senate
versus your opponent, Jackie Rosen.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah. So most of the listeners, because they're you know,
politically attuned, are going to be familiar with the name
Harry Reid. And so you know, Jackie Roseen is her
start point is Harry Reid. She was a protege of
his and even though he's dead now, you know, his
legacy still lives on and he'd created, you know, somewhat
(08:36):
of a machine here that brought her into the Senate
in twenty eighteen. She had served one term in the
House starting in twenty sixteen, but she's really been absent
from the state. And as you can imagine, someone who
didn't have to really work hard and create her own
path to representing the people of Nevada, she's she's just
(09:00):
well conditioned to follow leadership, whether it's Chuck Schumer or
Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris she has been just a
follower along the way. Now, the impact that it's had
here in the state is we've got the second highest
unemployment rate in the nation, We've got the second highest
(09:23):
energy costs in the nation, and people have been really
economically hurt by this. She also sits on the Homeland
Security Committee, a committee in a position where she got
to be able to push back, bring accountability, provide oversight
on the border crisis. And yet when President Trump was
still in office, she tried to slow roll and pushed
(09:45):
back on his initiatives and under you know, Kamala Harris,
as the borders are in Joe Biden's leadership, she's done
nothing to bring accountability there. My offer to the folks
is quite the off. We do need someone who understands
the hardships of these economic policies. Look, here's an interesting contrast.
(10:11):
Six years ago while she was running for Senate as
a congresswoman, I was working in an Amazon warehouse. I
know what it's like to work hard, you know, a
ten hour shift to be able to afford just enough today.
You know, I'm a successful businessman. I'd started a business
over these last six years, but you know, things are
(10:35):
still tight for my family, just like a lot of Nevadas.
I bring that perspective, and that's what we need to
someone who understands the impact of the policies and can
lead on them.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
We're talking to Captain Sam Brown.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
You're going to be with President Trump later today in Nevada,
which is a battleground state. For people out there that
are listening to us right now. We know the Senate
race in twenty twenty two came.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Down to a razor's edge.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I would imagine that your polling and your data shows
that the whole state of Nevada is going to come
down to a couple of thousand votes one way or
the other. In all sincerity, how can people help you?
What do you see on the ground and what are
you expecting with this rally that Trump is going to
have with you later this afternoon this evening.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, people are hungry for leadership, and you're right. Just
two years ago it was the closest Senate race in
the nation. It was a razor's edge. We're standing polling
kind of shaping up like that again. But we've got
additional things in our favor. One of the reasons that
race was lost last cycle is we had Republicans not
turning out. There was over one hundred thousand Republicans that
(11:42):
just didn't come out to vote, and so we've got
to get everyone committed to voting and you know, being
involved to the extent they can. People can go to
Captain Sam Brown dot com to contribute from across the nation.
But if you live in Nevada, you know people in Nevada.
At the end of the day, it's not who raises
the most money that wins, that who have the most
votes that wins. And our paulling is showing that it's
(12:04):
very close. But we're we're pushing into into groups of
independents who haven't traditionally voted for Republicans, and Republicans haven't
really pursued. But I believe that, you know, sort of
a business philosophy, anyone can be a customer, any voter
(12:24):
can any any registered voter out there could vote for me?
I need to go make the taste. We've been doing
that and we've seen the polls really tighten up and
we're right within the margin everra.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Now, outstanding stuff, Captain Sam Brown. If we were in Nevada,
we'd be voting for you. We know your mom is
thank her for listening. But we would also encourage everybody
out there in the state of Nevada get out work.
If you can afford, go donate at Captain Sam Brown
dot com. Tell President Trump we said hi, and have
a great event this evening.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Well do thank you, Thank you both, Thank you, and.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Thank you for your service, no doubt. I mean, that
was an incredibly compelling story from him. I'd encourage you
guys to go check out that book. But man, if
you have the opportunity and you're listening to us in
Nevada right now, are you kidding me? I mean, this
is a no brainer. And you just heard about Purple
Heart recipient deployed to Afghanistan to fight the war on terror.
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You just heard Captain Sam Brown tell his story twenty
three years ago. This week, first responders in and around
New York City Washington, d c. Race to save the
lives of those trapped in the Twin Towers and at
risk in the Pentagon. Since that moment, Tunnel to Towers
Foundation was created to provide relief and support to the
surviving families of those men and women lost in the
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line of duty, victims and first responders still suffering and
dying from nine to eleven right now. Yet children in
this nation are growing up unaware of America's darkest day.
The Tunnel to Towers Nine to eleven Institute is helping
educators teach children about nine to eleven any efforts this
organization does as part of their promise to never forget.
(14:03):
Let me interject you here for just to sec too.
I showed my kids, if you haven't seen it, the
man in the red Bandana. It's an incredible nine to
eleven story that ESPN did about a former lacrosse player
who was saving people's lives on nine to eleven in
the World Trade Center Towers, the South Tower to be specific.
(14:25):
It's a thirteen minute show, little interview and segment that
they did a story. I showed it to my boys
this week on nine to eleven. If you got young
kids and they haven't experienced nine to eleven and you
just want to show them one particular story. Maybe they
like sports like mine.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Do.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Let me give a shout out to the man in
the Red Bandana, which is an incredible Just type in
red Bandana on YouTube, it'll pop up. This is what
Frank Siller does. So many people out there that are
incredible saviors of our freedom and our ability to live
in this country without having to worry because of what
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the sacrifices that they're willing to give, Like you just
heard from Captain Sam Brown, help our nation keep its
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us, Sam Brown, Captain Sam Brown,
My goodness, how incredible is that story? I wish I
(15:49):
lived in Nevada so that I could vote for him.
Now I'm not gonna leave Tennessee. Would you ever hear
a politician and I bet you hopefully have done that
sometimes on this show, and you live in a state
different than that politician, but you think to yourself, my goodness,
that dude or that gal man, they really sound like
(16:10):
somebody I would like to be supporting. Let me just say,
go to Captain Sam Brown dot com and donate money
to him, because you don't have to live in the
state to help him get his message out. And if
he can win in Nevada, not only does he make
a tremendous difference in terms of the Senate makeup, but
also I think he would be a very compelling voice
(16:32):
in the United States Senate for all of us, not
just Nevada. So that is my stamp of endorsement. Not
that he needs it, but I know a lot of
you in Nevada are out there listening, and really, Adam
Laxalt came down to a couple of thousand votes in
his race in Nevada. Trump is going to come down
(16:53):
to a couple of thousand votes. Captain Sam Brown's gonna
come down to a couple of thousand votes. Man Nevada
has got to get out and vote because I think
the difference between Kamala and Trump is massive. I think
the difference between Captain Sam Brown and the woman who
would be there without him Buck is a tremendous difference
as well.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Look, I think that you're going to see in some
of these Senate races, as you were mentioning, very very
tight margins and this notion of oh, it's not worth it,
or the system is all screwed over and it's all
a mess or whatever. Every vote is going to count,
especially in these important states. Every vote matters, it really does,
(17:37):
and everything you can do. To Clay's point about getting
other people to support those I mean to me, your
choices between the leadership of someone like a Sam Brown
and Jackie Rosen, a pick of the Harry Reid Democrat machine,
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You know, it's been a.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Pretty heavy week and things are getting a little tense out
there with the news cycle so focused on politics, and
you know, Kamala wins at maybe the end of the
republic and the greatest experiment in human freedom in history.
But you know what I mean, like, we're gonna keep fighting,
or we're gonna keep our heads high. We're gonna We're
gonna stay positive no matter what I do.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Think Trump's gonna win.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
But put that aside for a second, put aside the
partisan stuff for a second year. To send you off
into the weekend with some positive vibes. As the gen
Z would say. Actor Kirk Cameron is with us now.
He's here to uplift us, inspire us. He's got a
new book, Born to Be Brave. How to be part
of America's spiritual comeback. Kirk, take it away, man, make
(19:40):
everybody feel like it's all gonna be all right, sir.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
What a setup boy. I'm so I'm sorry, glad, Glad
I came in right now. It actually is the most
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I'm telling you, honestly and truly with all of my heart.
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virtue and character to children at public libraries, contra drag queens,
story hours and political corruption and economic collapse and moral sewage,
I'm finding thousands and thousands of parents and grandparents and
kids coming out of the woodwork to be a part
of a movement that will amplify light and light some
(20:28):
brush fires of freedom and virtue and fan them to
spread them like wildfire across the country.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
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Speaker 5 (20:37):
I feel the rumblings of a great awakening, and I
can't wait to see what's going to happen over the
next couple of years.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I love the enthusiasm, Kirk. I just saw it.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Not pie in the sky by and by optimism.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
This is steak on the plate reality that I see
and that I believe with.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
All of my heart. Yeah, Clay, that wasn't a smack.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Down, And I was just wanting you, no, I know,
I've just got to buy play expensive steak soon in
like a week.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
That's what that made the board decision that he thought
Joe Biden was going to stay in the race, and
I said, of course not, He's going to drop out.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
But Kirk, I saw you. What night was it?
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Monday night at the Ami Racist premiere for Matt Walsh's
new film. And you have now moved to my hometown
of Nashville.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Welcome.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
It's thank you had to add new Tennesseeans. But I
want to also congratulate you. You have six kids of your own,
but you just became a grandfather. Yes, what is the
experience like? You obviously have had a bunch of kids already.
What does it feel like to be a grandfather. It's thrilling,
it's exciting. It's an exciting experience to have kids. Now
when you have a grandfather, it's it's definitely next level.
(21:43):
I've heard that my whole life, and now I'm experiencing it.
I mean, she's got cheeks for weeks. She's already a
Bills fan, She's part of the mafia. She was stressed
out before the game the other day, and she just
crashed when the whole thing was done. We are loving
being grandparents. My wife and I are are just just
over the moon.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
It is cool and welcome.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Like I said to Nashville, tell us about this book.
So you have written a bunch of children's books now
for people out there who have been grew up basically
watching you. Now you've gone from I would say teen
idol on Growing Pains to now a grandpa. What has
that trajectory of your life been like and at what
(22:29):
point did you decide, Hey, I really want to kind
of focus on telling stories to younger kids.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Well, I'm so. I'm so excited that I made it
this far. I'm now a grandfather.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
You know I didn't.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
I didn't pass away in my youth like a like
a like a teenage actor who just got so strung
out on which happens in a time.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Honestly, there's not very many that grow up, have six kids,
have one wife and become a grandkid who were a grandfather,
who were pop stars.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
So I mean that is a rare pathway. That is
a blessing that I'm so grateful for. And uh, yes,
I wrote this book that you're speaking of. It's called
Born to Be Brave. I have been spending the last
couple of years writing children's books and reading them to
three to five year olds to teach them things like
the fruit of the spirit, love, kindness, faithfulness, self control,
(23:15):
and humility, contra drag queens, teaching them about pride and
self empowerment rather than self control and finding myself inundated
by parents who say that they feel silenced and marginalized, afraid,
they're not sure what to do, and then they throw
some of them throw a religious element into it and say,
but that's the way the Bible.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Says it's supposed to be.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
It's just gonna get worse and there's really nothing we
can do about it, and I go time out. No,
I think that's totally misplaced. That hopelessness is found nowhere
in the history of the family of faith, or the
scriptures or what I'm seeing right now. And I realized,
I need to put gas in the tank of the parents.
I need to put wind in the sales of the grandparents,
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the people who actually understand why this is the greatest
country in the world, so that they can have the
bravery encourage to get our kids to a place of
blessing and protection and teach them the things that we
are losing in this country.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
It's nice to hear a sense of optimism about how
the battle for spirituality or the spiritual battle is playing
out in this country and that I guess the good
guys and gals can win here. I mean, you're mentioning
obviously the book, I assume is a bit of a
template or some encouragement, perhaps you know, coaching from the
(24:36):
sidelines here for how people can get more involved in
these battles themselves or just give them a framework, a
template for doing it. The book is Born to be Brave,
How to be a part of America's spiritual comeback. And So,
as a new grandparent, I got to say, you know,
you've got a lot of grandparents listening right now. I
(24:57):
feel like the older I get, the more wisdom I
feel comes from the older generation in a lot of ways,
I'll be honest with you. How does that play into
the spiritual comeback?
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Yeah, many grandparents feel like, well I did my time
and I've had my opportunity to make a difference.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
No, no, no, no, you're just getting started.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
If you are somebody who loves God, loves your family,
and loves this country, listen, don't get bitter when you
watch the news. Get better, don't be a whiner, be
a winner. Don't complain about the culture. Create the culture
you have, the time, you have, the opportunity with the
next generation, they need you pour into them. That's what
(25:37):
I need to be doing. Let me ask you this question, Clay,
what if the current cultural setback is really a divine
setup for a spiritual comeback led by the family of faith.
What if the political corruption, the moral collapse, the economic decline,
the spiritual apathy is really a wake up call for
(26:01):
those of us who know exactly what's going on.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
We've been red pilled. We see what's happening.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
The promises of the enemy are turning out to be fake,
and now it's our time.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
To red pill everybody else. But we've got to do
it the right way.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
The only way out of the matrix, first of all,
is to start with the heart of humility and love.
And then we've got to speak the truth with boldness
and with courage, starting with myself, my family, and then
work our way out through our communities, to the state
and to the local level. And I believe that if
we lean into this bravery and courage that God has
(26:37):
given his faithful followers, we can and we will realign
the nation with biblical, constitutional American values. It's happened before
it can happen again. It's called a great awakening, and.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
We're due for one.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
That was really well said, Kirk. And given your background
in Hollywood, I have a question for you. I just
mentioned we saw the Ami Racist premiere Matt Walsh's documentary.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Such a great movie should be required viewing for every American.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I thought it was fantastic, He's going to be on
with us Monday. But it seems to me, and I'm
curious if you feel this based on your background, that
even in Hollywood. I was reading in the Wall Street
Journal magazine about they're making an HBO. I think it
was series about the biblical David. There certainly has been
(27:31):
a lot, it feels to me, whether it's the Sound
of Freedom, whether it's so many different movies out there,
ordinary angels that came out. I believe the Irwin brothers
are involved in those films, who are also located to
a large degree here in Nashville. Do you sense that
Hollywood is recognizing that there is a great cultural hunger
(27:53):
for stories such as these and that that is allowing
people to maybe connect their emptiness inside with recognizing where
it's coming from.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Am I crazy?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Or is that starting to happen even from the cultural perspective?
Speaker 5 (28:07):
From what you see, I feel exactly what you're feeling,
and I see what you see, and what I believe
is that Hollywood has been ripping off the Biblical narrative
since the very beginning. They have wisely recognized the stories
that resonate most violently with the human hearts in a
good way. Stories of redemption, the hero's journey. You see
(28:28):
it in every Marvel movie, in every Batman movie. You
see it everywhere. And it's the against all odds, when
all hope seems lost, story when the underdog undergoes a
transformation and comes back from the impossible to win the day.
(28:49):
And it's in Lord of the Rings, it's in Narnia,
it's everywhere. And that's why I try to make the
movies that I make, the books that I write, and
the cartoons and children's programs that I'm producing. So that's
why people need to go see movies like that, the
movies you just talked about, Sound of Freedom, or the
Kendricks Brothers new movie that's out called The Forge, about
(29:11):
men mentoring and discipling the younger generation of men to
give them a sense of identity and purpose and destiny.
And that's why I want people to get this book
I wrote, Born to Be Brave, because when we support
projects like this, when we listen to radio stations like yours,
what does that do? Not only does it equip us
and educate us and open our eyes so we can
(29:34):
do something, It then sends massive financial shock waves to
the industry and blows open the doors. So we have
more radio stations like yours, We have more books like
Born to Be Brave, We have more movies like The
Passion of the Christ or Sound of Freedom or whatever
it is to combat the evil and begin to turn
(29:55):
the tide of the culture. Remember, a tiny vocal minority
group with ridiculous ideas that are fake and lies have
managed to transform what is normal today. Think of what
we could do if we got a plan, work together
and our cause was just.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I feeling?
Speaker 6 (30:21):
So can I can?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I ask?
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Here's what I'd love more than anything.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
This is the first book that I've ever written for adults,
and I want more than anything to write more books
like this. And I want all of my friends, who
are better authors than I am, to write more books
like this. And the way that we can do that
is if this makes it to whatever the numbers are,
to put me on the New York Times bestseller list.
That sends a message to the publishing industry that America
(30:45):
wants more about about a spiritual comeback in America, a
reviving of American first principles that leads to our blessing
and protection and then we can flood the market with
that kind of stuff. I don't want it to be fringe.
I want it to be mainstream. Spiritual comeback plus capitalism.
You're in the right place there you go.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, good Kirk cameraon Everybody Born to Be Brave, How
to be a part of America's spiritual comeback.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Check out your copy of it.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Kirk.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Always great to have you man. We'll see you soon.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Appreciate both of you, guys.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Thanks so much, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
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Things up a bit.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
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the iHeartRadio, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts. Closing
up shop with all of you my thanks to Kirk Cameron.
He had a lot of people ready to run through
a wall with all that enthusiasm, and also Captain Sam
Brown links up to their Twitter profiles and their books
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So if you guys want to search us out individually,
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Speaker 2 (35:08):
Look at this.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
It's rough. I'll be honest.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
You might need some coffee because you are having trouble.
You injured yourself playing tennis. It's hard for you to
walk right now.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I know.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
And someone even told me maybe you should try pickleball.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
You ever tried. I've never tried it. Every one of
my neighborhood plays. This is in the in the in
the racket sport world. If you if you are like
a lifelong tennis player, which I am. I'm not saying
I'm very good, but you know, I'm okay, lifelong tennis player,
and someone says, try pickleball play and this would be
like someone telling you stop watching college football, you should
watch college lacrosse instead.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
You're just like, what not totally different sport.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Although I have heard lacrosse is amazing and one of
my kids is playing and buck this is the embarrassing
for me, as a guy who played it and talked
about a lot of sports. Last year, my seventh grader
was playing lacrosse. I had to pull out my phone
and look up lacrosse rules on Wikipedia. I had no
I'd never been to a game. I had no idea
what was going on. It might as well have been
cricket to me. You know, sixty years ago, my dad
(36:13):
played college lacrosse I don't even know the rules, so
I think it's got in my blood kind of popular. Now, yeah,
I don't know. But to be fair to you, I mean,
I don't want to take it.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
It's cultural appropriation, as you know, guys wearing pink polo
shirts with the collars up taking it from the Native American.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
I don't want to insult you, but I'm gonna do
that to finish the week. I think your niece so bad.
I don't even think you could play pickleball right now.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Wow, I'm.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
On that.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I don't think it's probably true, Carrie. Car keep saying
to me, can I go get that for you?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
And I'm like, no, maybe have a good week at everyone,
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