April 10, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show closes out the week with a wide‑ranging, culturally focused conversation that blends demographics, family formation, health trends, and American social life, while briefly touching on foreign policy headlines. Clay and Buck open the final hour by revisiting the most striking takeaway from earlier discussions: the dramatic collapse of the U.S. fertility rate, which has now fallen to roughly 1.5 children per woman, far below the 2.1 replacement rate. They frame declining birth rates not as an isolated U.S. problem but as a civilizational challenge facing much of the developed world, citing population collapse trends in Japan, South Korea, Western Europe, and China. Clay argues that if these trends continue, population decline—not climate change—may emerge as the defining long‑term threat to economic stability, social cohesion, and national power.
The conversation then expands into why modern societies are having fewer children, with Buck emphasizing delayed marriage, women entering the workforce later in life, and cultural messaging that prioritizes career achievement over family formation. Clay focuses on the “math problem” created when marriage and first childbirth are postponed into the 30s, noting how biological realities sharply reduce the likelihood of larger families once women reach what medicine categorizes as “advanced maternal age.” Both hosts argue that cultural narratives promising women they can “have it all” without tradeoffs have failed to account for these biological constraints, leaving many people frustrated and unfulfilled later in life.
In a lighter but still consequential turn, Hour 3 explores health and lifestyle changes—particularly the rise of GLP‑1 weight‑loss drugs like Ozempic—and their potential downstream effects on relationships, fertility, and overall well‑being. Buck suggests improved metabolic health, hormone balance, and self‑confidence could increase relationship formation and potentially even lead to a modest “baby boom.” The hosts link falling testosterone levels, obesity, and mental health issues to broader cultural and demographic declines, underscoring their belief that physical health is closely tied to emotional stability and family formation.
The hour then shifts to cultural and social dynamics surrounding dating, marriage, and male‑female expectations. Buck argues many women—particularly in elite urban centers—were misled into believing corporate success would enhance long‑term relationship prospects the same way it does for men, while Clay notes that biological timelines make career‑first decisions riskier for women than men. They discuss how men and women face fundamentally different incentives in dating and family formation, and how ignoring those differences has produced widespread dissatisfaction rather than empowerment.
To lighten the mood, Hour 3 pivots to sports, masculinity, and emotional connection, using a viral comedy routine to examine why sports talk radio often doubles as therapy for men. Clay recounts his time hosting sports radio during the COVID shutdown, explaining how sports fandom gave working‑class listeners emotional escape, stability, and a sense of belonging during periods of isolation and stress. A classic Rush Limbaugh clip reinforces the idea that sports allow people—particularly men—to invest passion without the emotional risks inherent in personal relationships, making sports a unique outlet for identity and community.
The final segment reflects on how common ground—sports, small talk, shared interests—helps sustain social connection in a world increasingly dominated by phones and isolation. Buck shares personal stories about fatherhood as he celebrates his son’s first birthday, reinforcing the hour’s central message: family, relationships, and shared human experience are ultimately more meaningful than status or professional success. The show wraps with listener reactions, humor, and weekend reflections, underscoring the hosts’ belief that rebuilding strong families and social bonds is essential to America’s future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Final hour
of the week, fourteen hours up. We are working on
our number fifteen now. Encourage you, as always go subscribe
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(00:21):
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However you are finding us now, we thank you for
doing so. Okay, as we head into the weekend, big
story ongoing, the US eron talks in Pakistan schedule to
(00:43):
begin on Saturday, Artemis two, going to land off the
coast of San Diego. That is the week long plus
moon navigation that took place starting last week.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
But we didn't really react to what we talked with.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Our good buddy Ryan Gerdeski, who is also a part
of the Clay and Buck podcast network, told us, but
I do think it's worth here. As we dive into
hour three, having a little bit of discussion about it,
I was jotting down notes because this has been a
widely discussed in some circles story, but by and large
(01:25):
it's mostly getting ignored. The United States fertility rate has fallen,
according to the most recent data, to one point five
children per women per woman, and that is relatively easy
to explain because and the math is not crazy complicated.
Women need to average two point one children in order
(01:49):
to exceed replacement level. Again, the math on this is
not crazy complicated, and that is not occurring. And it's
not just happening in the United States. It is collapsing
all around the world at many different elite Western civilization countries.
Whether it is Japan which has no South Korea, whether
(02:12):
it is Italy and now obviously the United States, wherever,
and certainly much of Europe, if you look at France,
and if you look at what's happening in England, all
these different countries with great histories of civilization that have
basic human rights, the population is collapsing. And I don't
know if this is ever going to reverse, but if
(02:35):
it does not, then humanity starts to decline in population
buck really, really fast. China is a great example of this,
where they're saying by the end of this century, the
Chinese population is going to go from around one point
four billion ish I believe where it is right now,
(02:55):
to about six hundred and fifty seven hundred million. In
other words, before the end of this century, China is
going to have half the population that it does right now.
There's reading a story this morning. Japan is having a
huge issue with just abandoned homes in Japan right now,
huge numbers of homes because the population has collapsed to
such an extent they're just abandoned. Nobody lives there. The
(03:18):
government will actually basically give you title to these homes
to be able to live there. Is this Should we
be talking about this more as a real significant issue
and whether or how we fix it?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Well, yes, it's a hugely significant issue, and there's a
lot of factors that all come together, and it's really
a pretty new phenomenon in human and human history to
have both so many women entering the workforce, to laying child,
child bearing these very well off societies in the West
and including democracies in the East like Japan and South
(03:59):
Korea where people aren't having enough kids. That's all very real. Elon,
who is certainly a guy who sees the future well
recognizes this is I think the biggest challenge that humanity faces.
The good news is there is a solution to it,
and the solution is actually quite fun, in fact, in fact,
and not only fun. I mean, there's of course that
(04:19):
part of it, but it's also very rewarding. And being
a dad is like my favorite thing ever, as I'm
sure it is for Uklay three times over. Being a
dad is the absolute greatest being a mom. I'm sure
I can't speak. I can't speak to it, you know,
I can't identify as a as a mom, but I'm
sure that's the same thing. You know, what I think
(04:41):
is going to actually be increasingly playing a role in this.
There's already some data. You've seen a little bits of
this here and there. GLP drugs very helpful because once
you start taking that sweet sweet sauce from ozempic or
ures of peptide or whatever, you drop those thirty or
(05:03):
forty pounds, you're sleeping better, you're feeling better, you're looking better.
You might as well just throwing a little berry white
in the background. Can't get enough, You'll love baby. You know,
it starts really moving in group.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
People are gonna get more frisky as they lose weight
on the glpce Because this is funny. Body positivity was
a big thing for what ten years.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You know, they putting people in SPANX who shouldn't be
in spandex like doing you know, all sorts of body movement,
and they're like, hey, I feel great about being morbidly obese.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And I was like, I don't know. That doesn't seem
like a great thing. Body positivity is vanished, and as
these GLP ones are becoming more and more affordable, people
are dropping weight at a significant level.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
That's an interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Theory, and it's going to make them in the mind
of buck sex well, you know, they're more frisky. There's
actually a chemistry behind it too. For the guys out there,
if you're estrogen levels too high estra diol than your
libido tends to you know, if you have low T
and high estrogen. It's all about balance. By the way,
(06:10):
you need estrogen actually as a guy. But if your
estrogen level gets high relative to your testosterone level, it'll
affect libido and mood pretty drastically. And so because we
also have a t a testosterone crisis in the West,
which people haven't really figured out yet, I think part
of it is just it's dietary. It's the toxic masculinity
(06:32):
hate that the men have been getting there's a lot
of things that come together there too. It's not a
single factor analysis you can do, but Clay, biochemically, you
are more likely to want to get frisky if you
are at a healthier weight. Is the bottom line, male
and female so glps are the most important health revolution
(06:52):
of the twenty first century in my opinion. And also,
I think you're going to help with the baby boom.
There's to be something of an ozeenpic baby boom. If
you will, this is a fantastic Here's my concern. I
think that by the way you respect the barrier Barry right,
Berry White, I mean, if you're if you're in the
baby making mood right Barry Whites, which you got to
(07:13):
throw at.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Very very very very positive.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I would say, here's my concern, and this is it's
it almost is just a math equation. Just make it
very logical if the average woman, and I believe I'm
correct in this is So let's.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Start with point one.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
We would like to have children in marriage right in
an ideal world. So I tell my kids, get married,
have as many babies as you can. Be a good dad,
but you need to get married, right, So you want
a dad and the mom both present. If we are
having incredibly declining rates of marriage and we are also
(07:51):
simultaneously seeing marriage beginning for women, that I'm focusing on
women here because women have babies. We understand that biologically
here we're not a left wing show. If women are
not getting married until they're in their thirties, and this
is now becoming the standard, right the average man is
over thirty, the average woman increasingly is basically thirty years old.
(08:13):
The math equation on this buck just gets hard, and
we need to have more women on talking about this.
But this is because then inevitably it's just like, well,
you're a guy, you don't It's way harder for women
to have babies in their thirties than it is in
their twenties. And if we are both simultaneously creating a
world where the highest educated, most wealthy among us are
(08:37):
not getting married until they're in their thirties, then you
just get into a mathematical equation right where it takes
longer than you expect. You're thirty three when you have
your first baby. The babies are especially first babies, as
you've just learned buck very changing to your lifestyle. And
then you're like Okay, we got to figure out do
(08:58):
we have the time now to have baby number two?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Takes a time.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I just think the math on this when you don't
get married until after thirty on average. I think there
are a lot of people that would be open to
having baby two, baby three, baby one that don't get
in a position where the math adds up because a
lot of women, look, when you get into your upper thirties,
what is it a jerry? This is crazy, But it's
(09:22):
called a the geriatric pregnancy once you hit thirty five,
thirty five, which doesn't feel very old way.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
That is officially medically, that is not a point of contention.
That is not a derogatory thing. That is it is
considered medically a geriatric pregnancy from thirty five. So do
you really know here? My wife had a geriatric pregnancy, So.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
This is I know because my assistant Katie, who has
a couple of different babies, she was like, I couldn't
believe it. They called me a jeriactic pregnant woman because
she was thirty five. I think when she had her
second baby, I think it's just a math equation, and
I think a lot of women out there and I
don't know if it's gonna happen, are going to have
to decide, Hey, what's the most important thing to me?
(10:05):
Is it having a baby or is it getting promoted
to mid tier management in a job that frankly isn't
that desirable of a job. And I think we have
sold this again. People are gonna get mad at me
over this. I think we have sold a lot of
people a bill of goods that your success in a
(10:27):
major multinational corporation defines you more than your success as
a parent. And I think you can speak to this
now that you're a dad. I can certainly speak to
it as a dad, like success in life is great
in professional career, but it pales in comparison to being
a parent.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
This is like a whole different show we're doing now,
But I guess I'll just lean into it and a
whole different show just in terms of how much content
and discussion there can be about this stuff. One thing
that I've seen from my female peers in New York City,
I meaning girls who I grew up with are my age.
A lot of them, I think very they felt a
little lied to by the culture that professional success at
(11:06):
some level would make them desirable mates. We've kind of
run that experiment, and the truth is the guy working
as a gas station attendant and the CEO of the
fortune one hundred company kind of looking for a lot
of the same things. It's and it doesn't equate with
(11:28):
being VP of the marketing firm. They don't Care's the point.
It doesn't actually affect your marketability the same way as
it does in the dating marketplace. By the way, people
can argue me on this, all the data supports this.
I was single a lot in New York City. I've
seen a lot. I understand how these dynamics play out,
no matter whether but what I was referring to, By
(11:49):
the way, there's data that shows that whether you're making
like fifty thousand dollars a year or you know, five
million dollars a year, the top three professions that it's
not that they don't want. People want educated, they want
a educated wife, they want someone. But in terms of
career stuff, nurse, pediatrician, school teacher, black guys, white guys,
(12:13):
hispanic go to.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
That connectivity issue. There is all that would be a
good mom. This is their job that you think a
good mom would have.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yes, and so women who sacrifice This is like the
women that I went to AMers with who went into
investment banking, which has just horrendous and really abusive hours
in your twenties which you exchange for money. It's not
worth it to gain thirty pounds as a woman in
your twenties and have your hair start to fall out,
fall out from stress and anxiety and trying to do
all this stuff because you know you're gonna make like
(12:43):
a slightly bigger bonus than if you took the job
where you're actually doing something you want to do. And
I think a lot of women have been lied to
about that. Men will make those trip. By the way,
Jordan Peterson's been hitting this for years and years. He's
totally right. Men will make these trade offs, like the
guys listening to us who do the crazy like Arctic
fishing thing off of Alaska and they make you know,
(13:04):
eighty grand in the six week season. I'm making up
the numbers when I get knocked into the ocean and die.
Men making but they might freeze to death in the
oh yeah, exactly. They're playing with like big harpoons and
hooks and stuff and captain a hab. Stuff. They do
that knowing that they come home and they're a you know,
they're a more appealing provider. They got more money in
the bank, all this sort of stuff. The economic incentives
(13:27):
in mating are not the same for men and women
as the bottom line, and women have been largely Now
now there're gonna be some guys who call in who
watch MS now and who are beta malets are like,
I want a provider as well. I'm not saying you
don't want a woman who has a job. I'm saying
that people who sacrificed life for job, who are women oftentimes,
because remember, the timelines are different, they look back at
(13:49):
this now and they're like, no one told me. No
one told me that mortgaging my twenties and deep into
my thirties so that I could be on a super
aggressive career track had real consequences for me that the
men don't have. We can have kids in our sixties.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
This is the key.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
You can be a guy and say I want to
work ninety hours a week in my twenties and thirties,
and you can make put yourself in a position where
you're making a lot of money, and then at forty
five you can decide, hey, you know what I want
to get married, and there are tons of from frankly,
from twenty five to you know, thirty five, your old women,
(14:24):
you saw it all the time.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
My d my dating options once I hit thirty five
were more available than in my twenties, like by like
an order of magnitude.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
And so it is a biology is real. And I think, again,
when you don't get married until your thirties, the math
on this, I'm not surprised, honestly, because I think the
fulfillment you decide, hey, I had one, your thirty six,
thirty seven two may or may not happen.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
And I do think it's a it's a major issue.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Going forward because the most ed, educated, successful societies are
having the least amount of children and that does not
seem good.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And by the way, the wealthiest societies and.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
By the way, they're importing a lot of people from
societies where they're not educated and they're having a lot
of kids. And there are social costs that come with
that too, because now you're creating a massive welfare state
and there's there's problems with that. So anyway, see, we
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Speaker 3 (16:30):
Right, Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Clay, You're gonna
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(16:53):
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Speaker 5 (16:54):
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Speaker 2 (17:00):
This is what they do.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
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(17:23):
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Speaker 3 (17:26):
Moon, Clay, you used to do sports talk radio? Is
it kind of like this for some guys?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
This is so perfect. Sports are so many men's emotional outlet.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Right.
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Sexton show Awesome assistant Katie was listening. She says that
jeriactic pregnancy. She just texted me she was listening to
the show.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Now they're starting to move on from jeriactic pregnancy because
so many women were I think rocked at the age
of thirty five by hearing that they were a jeriactic pregnancy.
They now call it in many places, Buck, this is
advanced maternal age or AMA to try to make women
less stunned. I think by the concept of a jerry
(19:31):
and I.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Totally disagree with this. I think that they should let
people should know. You shouldn't because it's a biological reality.
This isn't about feelings. This is about with each passing
year after thirty five, your risk of complications goes up,
your chances of getting pregnant goes down, your chance of
bringing the baby full term goes down. All of the
people women need to note. My female friends that I
(19:54):
grew up with, like I said, in New York, so
many of them were just lied to them about this stuff,
lied to by the culture. Go be a girl, boss.
You have plenty of time. You have plenty of time.
The guys are partying, you know, go go to Tulum, eat, pray,
love your way through. Now. I understand this may be
a very specific thing to people in New York, LA, DC, Boston, Chicago,
(20:18):
but I's not the good time in all those places.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I think it's very common for highly educated women. They
are told that they can have it all, and some,
to be fair, are able to manage all of it
better than others. But if you don't find the right
person to your point, like you're hanging out with guys
at twenty five and thirty and thirty three and thirty
four that can be able to do the fancy vacations
(20:45):
and still have the high end success. But those guys
might decide at forty five Hey, I'm gonna get married,
i'm gonna settle down, I'm gonna have kids, and that
option is available to them, and you suddenly look around.
You're thirty nine years old, you're in middle management. Maybe
you're making a decent salary, but I don't think it's
that fulfilling. And I think a lot of women have
(21:05):
been sold. And then they look around and the thirty
nine year old guy doesn't feel the same pressure that
the thirty nine year old woman does.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
And here's the other.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Reality, buck, it's way harder for women to date young right,
way harder for thirty nine year old woman to find.
First of all, men or morons in their twenties oftentimes
and aren't that serious. So it's hard to find. Like,
let's say you're thirty nine and you want to date
a twenty eight year old. Thirty nine year old guy
can date a lot of twenty eight year olds. Most
twenty eight year old guys are not going to seriously
(21:35):
date a thirty nine year old woman to stay with.
So the math on this is different. We got a
we want to play this rush cut because you played
a funny clip as we went to break of how
male sports talker radio is often.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Before we get to the rush cut though. I mean,
have you had guys called to like Clay, I just
want to say, I love what's going on with Auburn.
They're doing great, and you know, my wife and I
are having problems, But like, did you ever have to
doctor phill the situation? Because we thought you were there
to do sports analysis, but really someone just wanted to
call into chat.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Look, this has to do with during COVID, and I'm
not claiming that sports talker radio is saving the world,
far from it. But during COVID March April May June
twenty twenty, I was doing nationwide sports talker radio for
Fox Sports Radio, leading into Dan Patrick and Colin Cowherd
(22:30):
and sports shutdown. Sports shutdowns didn't exist. For those of
you who have forgotten, I know a lot of people
imagine doing three hours a day of sports talker radio
March April May June of twenty twenty. To a large extent,
my job then, Buck, I really mean this was to
be a therapist for people who are otherwise sports fans,
(22:51):
because a lot of people didn't get the opportunity to
just sit at home and eat Cheetos and watch Netflix
a lot of guys, especially early in the morning, are
up on the road. They're driving, and sports is their
escape from the serious things in life.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
You got a wife who might be sick or not
very happy with you, You got a mom and dad
who might be aging.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Sports is your escape. It is your.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Sanity, and a lot of it is I mean, I'm
telling you a lot of it is a emotional connection,
which is not now.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I want to go back and listen to old Clay
Travis shows just to hear some guy call in like, well,
you know, I love Ohio State so much, and like
they're not playing and play tell me a story, you know,
just like Clay tell me it's going to be okay.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I'm telling you. You go back and you listen to
a lot of those March, April, May and June shows.
A lot of it was therapy for guys that were
busting their ass and didn't have sports to be able
to escape and the world's falling down around them, and
they still got to be in that truck and they
got to deliver that beer to a gas station, or
they got to still be, you know, showing up at
their jobs. Whenever everybody the higher end, your job. Was
(24:02):
you just slept in, right, You're not waking up at
six am? How many remember when like everybody was getting
up at like ten am in the morning. They started
to look at the data and nobody was waking up
early in the morning. Who had you know, working from home?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Things changed enormously and a lot of people didn't get
that opportunity and still had to go and work. No
matter what, it's very important being able to separate yourself
from just the rudimentary routine that you're in on a
day to day basis, whether it's prayer, meditation, I'm actually
(24:35):
doing yoga with carry after this yoga sports. I find
video games me elon and I I find video games
are a super easy way to kind.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Of what is your right now? About video games?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I try not to play them when I feel like
I women hate women hate men playing video games sports
like they may not love you watching sports. They really
hate walking in I'm talking about like twenties and thirties,
and I try to, like slyly sort of just turn
it off, like just checking to see if it still works,
(25:10):
you know. But as as a general rule, women do
not find it attractive for men to play video and
I'm like, when I'm like changing diapers and cleaning the kitchen,
I get wifey walking around, you know, spandex and feeling
great when she catches a little too much video games
going on, all of a sudden, wifeis like triple XL sweatshirt,
(25:31):
like Missus Doubtfire style out there. It's just it's amazing
how that happens. The young men, and I know we
have some young men listening just have this idea that
you know, they're gonna have a girlfriend and she's gonna
be incredibly good looking and she's gonna love playing Call
of Duty with him.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Right, Like, there's this there's this young male fantasy.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It's like we're just gonna we're just gonna be like
fighting World War two battles. And then when we're tired
of fighting World War two battles on Call of Duty,
we're gonna take out and it's gonna be that's probably.
And they sell them, right, they sell them on this
idea because there's a couple of pretty girls, like what
was the Olivia mun back in the days, Like I
love video games and Star Wars and I'm gonna dress
(26:12):
up like Princess Leigh and we're just gonna play just.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Like all the all the Maxim magazine models and the
heyday of Maxim magazine. They would do some little interview
and they're just like, I like a guy with a
little bit of a beer belly that I can hug
and cuddle. It's like, sure you do, Sure you do?
Uh Olga the bikini model, like absolutely.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Rush, coming back to this cliff, when you shared that
comedian's take.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
What was the comedian's name? By the way, should we
give him credit? Did we give give the credit again
for it? I'll pull it up right now. Make sure
they give Hieter Peter Ravello doing his routine on the
Now I follow him because, like I just I thought
that was a really funny routine. He's got some other
funny bits too, sports talker, And this is one good
thing about Instagram. By the way, comedians have just taken
(26:59):
off on the reels function. If you find a couple
of funny cuts, like, it's been phenomenal for them. But
so that comedian talking about sports talk radio callers. Rush obviously,
as many of you know, was huge sports fan, was
involved in sports for much of his career of a
variety of different perspectives in fact, there was talk for
(27:20):
a while that Rush was going to buy his own
team because of the success he had with this radio program.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
But here is.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Rush talking about when he worked for the Kansas City
Royals back in the day and what sports teams did
and meant to people. I thought this was really interesting,
well done, pulled by the staff. This is from twenty seventeen,
I believe cut nineteen one.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Thing about sports fandom. I had a sociologist from Harvard
once tell me that the great thing about sports and
I've never forgotten this, folks. I was working for Kansady
royalsmater winter meetings one year in Scottsdale, Arizona. We had
this Harvard sociology, a nice little one. My first reaction,
are you kidding me? We've got some ivy leaguer coming
(28:05):
down here trying to tell us added techniques on marketing
our teams.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
And yeah, yeah, yeah. So I went, well, it was mandatory.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I went and the guy said something that was actually
one of those things that when he said it, yeah
absolutely wish you could have thought of it yourself, but
you didn't. He said, the beauty of sports. Now I
remember all this is in the context of us who
were in marketing and sales, trying to expand the number
of people visit the ballpark or watch on TV, and
(28:39):
ways to exploit their fandom.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
He said, the unique thing.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
About sports is the one thing you can invest total
passion without consequence. He said, try that with a woman,
or there were some women. He looked at them, said
try that with a man. And what he meant by
that one your team may lose and they may disappoint you,
(29:06):
but your team will never try to take half of
what you've got. Your team will never divorce you. Team
will never reject you. Your team will never unless you
throw a beer on a player, they'll never kick you
out of the place. But when interpersonal relationships all everybody
their first time they get heart and break or hurt,
they're reserved after that. They don't want that to happen again,
(29:28):
and so they do not invest their passion totally because
there's consequence. When you can and this is the definition
of uber fandom, invest total passion without consequence, it's.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Really kind of fascinating, and I mean, I think again,
there are women who are sports fans, you know, twenty
five percent of sports fandom. But for most diehard sports
fans is male, and it is really kind of interesting
to think through that. And many of you, maybe in
your relationships with your dad, or your brothers or your
best friends. A huge portion of the conversations that I
(30:08):
have with the men in my family is sports related. Right,
The boys in my family still sports related. It's a
form of love language for men that is not defined
in that way. And I thought the comedian on the
flip on a funny side of it making that point
and then rush on a more serious side kind of
deconstructing the psychology behind it does make sense.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Well, it's important for people to be able to have
conversations that share any kind of a common ground, which
I know you this is why. And I have to
take credit for this because it's true. It's an observation
about Clay and he admits it. He straight up trusts
you and likes you more if you're an SEC football fan.
He's like, oh, I can give you the keys to
my car. You're you're a good dude or gal, You're
a good person. You like SEC football. But being able
(30:52):
to find common ground with people that you can share
is very powerful and it reminds me of I feel like
I used to think that small talk was There's a
lot of people say, I don't do small talk or
small talks a waste of time. Small talk is actually
just about establishing the energy and the exchange between two people.
(31:12):
It's kind of like, hey, i'm here, I'm a friendly
and I'm hoping you're good and we're all good, and
it's putting everyone at ease. Right. Small talk is not
about the exchange of information. It's the exchange of energy
that comes from it, or the intent, if you will,
of the exchange, which is, hey, I'm happy to see you,
you're happy to see me. I wish you well, you
(31:33):
wish me well. And we're talking about the weather because
people don't really care to talk about the weather. But
the point is establishing that commonality. And I see that
a lot with the people who are sports ball fans.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
And by the way, you know what, that commonality often
is lost in now phones because it used to be
that you would have conversations with strangers more now. What
most of us do, and I do this too, is
if you're standing in a line, or if you're engaged
in you know, some activity, so many people look down
(32:05):
at their phones and so you dial out of the
circumstances and surroundings around you and your human interaction has
now been translated into the phone. We've got a funny clip,
somewhat funny. It's good for me from Kamala Harris that
we will play those out that we will play to
(32:26):
close out the week for all of you. Sports going
to spike the football early on his way out this weekend.
We'll see if any of.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
You are angry about anything that has been said during
the course of the week as we get ready for
the final segment. Just a reminder, Buck Sexton is the
person that you're upset with. He's the way if you
if any women out there are angry over the discussion
about birth rates and everything, Buck is the one that
you're mad at. Just a reminder and now you can
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Welcome back into clay En Buck closing up shop here
for the weekend. If he were around, I think he's
out walking with mom and with his mom and his
grandmother right now, but I would show you Jimmy Speed
on his last day as a yearo year old. He
turns one tomorrow. His birthday Jimmy Speed came a year
(34:30):
ago tomorrow, so many of you were, of course listening
during that week. I think I was out for a
couple of days or a day or two. I think
I was back at work on Tuesday. And yeah, Jimmy
Speed was born a year ago. He is the absolute
most joyful, happy little guy in the world. I occasionally
post him smiling, giggling or laughing on Instagram, So go
(34:53):
follow out Buck Sexton on Instagram if you want them now, though, Clay,
if people are just like I just need more Jimmy
Speed or I call him jim Speed. Speed is his name,
James Speed. But they're like, I just want more Speed photos,
like we didn't see your face. Buck, I'm like, all right,
fair enough. Is I get it? Super super cute? That'll
be fun. Are you gonna do the have a cake
and let him dive into it?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Plan? Is this the yes?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah? With his with his grandma, his mom my, brother,
so his uncles, We're gonna do a little family gathering
for him and just give him access to a k
I mean he is going to he is going to
tear that thing up in the first three seconds. He's
gotten to that point now where you know, he's got
more motor skills and strength than wisdom, and he just
(35:36):
makes it his ginger Spice the dog, she our dog.
She now waits at the bottom of his high chair,
just knowing that a bounty of delicious goodness is on
the way, because he'll just he eats something and then
half of it ends up getting thrown like a baseball
onto the floor. And that's just the way it is.
So there you go. H you wanted to do from Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I know, I thought we were gonna play Kamala here.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
You can save Kamala for Monday.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
You can.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You can do your little fig on. I will save
Kamala for Monday. Who knows what the news will be.
You hit the talkbacks. Just know that Buck has got
to start saving up for another big steak dinner.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
And we'll teach that for Monday.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Kamala, Kamala's destroying America and my bank account. H Dina
from Cleveland. Hi, good afternoon. I just wanted to tell
you guys, I absolutely love when my boyfriend plays video games.
We actually have to fight over the PlayStation because we
both like to play them. So no, by all means
(36:37):
have your video game. I'll sit there and watch.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
And play with you.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Dina, you are what they call a unit for Yeah,
I'm still not sure you exist in the wild, but
if you do, you are rare.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Very few women love watching their boyfriends play video games,
but he found one.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Congrats. We'll be back Monday.
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doing so. Okay, as we head into the weekend, big
story ongoing, the US eron talks in Pakistan schedule to
(00:43):
begin on Saturday, Artemis two, going to land off the
coast of San Diego. That is the week long plus
moon navigation that took place starting last week.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
But we didn't really react to what we talked with.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Our good buddy Ryan Gerdeski, who is also a part
of the Clay and Buck podcast network, told us, but
I do think it's worth here. As we dive into
hour three, having a little bit of discussion about it,
I was jotting down notes because this has been a
widely discussed in some circles story, but by and large
(01:25):
it's mostly getting ignored. The United States fertility rate has fallen,
according to the most recent data, to one point five
children per women per woman, and that is relatively easy
to explain because and the math is not crazy complicated.
Women need to average two point one children in order
(01:49):
to exceed replacement level. Again, the math on this is
not crazy complicated, and that is not occurring. And it's
not just happening in the United States. It is collapsing
all around the world at many different elite Western civilization countries.
Whether it is Japan which has no South Korea, whether
(02:12):
it is Italy and now obviously the United States, wherever,
and certainly much of Europe, if you look at France,
and if you look at what's happening in England, all
these different countries with great histories of civilization that have
basic human rights, the population is collapsing. And I don't
know if this is ever going to reverse, but if
(02:35):
it does not, then humanity starts to decline in population
buck really, really fast. China is a great example of this,
where they're saying by the end of this century, the
Chinese population is going to go from around one point
four billion ish I believe where it is right now,
(02:55):
to about six hundred and fifty seven hundred million. In
other words, before the end of this century, China is
going to have half the population that it does right now.
There's reading a story this morning. Japan is having a
huge issue with just abandoned homes in Japan right now,
huge numbers of homes because the population has collapsed to
such an extent they're just abandoned. Nobody lives there. The
(03:18):
government will actually basically give you title to these homes
to be able to live there. Is this Should we
be talking about this more as a real significant issue
and whether or how we fix it?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Well, yes, it's a hugely significant issue, and there's a
lot of factors that all come together, and it's really
a pretty new phenomenon in human and human history to
have both so many women entering the workforce, to laying child,
child bearing these very well off societies in the West
and including democracies in the East like Japan and South
(03:59):
Korea where people aren't having enough kids. That's all very real. Elon,
who is certainly a guy who sees the future well
recognizes this is I think the biggest challenge that humanity faces.
The good news is there is a solution to it,
and the solution is actually quite fun, in fact, in fact,
and not only fun. I mean, there's of course that
(04:19):
part of it, but it's also very rewarding. And being
a dad is like my favorite thing ever, as I'm
sure it is for Uklay three times over. Being a
dad is the absolute greatest being a mom. I'm sure
I can't speak. I can't speak to it, you know,
I can't identify as a as a mom, but I'm
sure that's the same thing. You know, what I think
(04:41):
is going to actually be increasingly playing a role in this.
There's already some data. You've seen a little bits of
this here and there. GLP drugs very helpful because once
you start taking that sweet sweet sauce from ozempic or
ures of peptide or whatever, you drop those thirty or
(05:03):
forty pounds, you're sleeping better, you're feeling better, you're looking better.
You might as well just throwing a little berry white
in the background. Can't get enough, You'll love baby. You know,
it starts really moving in group.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
People are gonna get more frisky as they lose weight
on the glpce Because this is funny. Body positivity was
a big thing for what ten years.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You know, they putting people in SPANX who shouldn't be
in spandex like doing you know, all sorts of body movement,
and they're like, hey, I feel great about being morbidly obese.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And I was like, I don't know. That doesn't seem
like a great thing. Body positivity is vanished, and as
these GLP ones are becoming more and more affordable, people
are dropping weight at a significant level.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
That's an interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Theory, and it's going to make them in the mind
of buck sex well, you know, they're more frisky. There's
actually a chemistry behind it too. For the guys out there,
if you're estrogen levels too high estra diol than your
libido tends to you know, if you have low T
and high estrogen. It's all about balance. By the way,
(06:10):
you need estrogen actually as a guy. But if your
estrogen level gets high relative to your testosterone level, it'll
affect libido and mood pretty drastically. And so because we
also have a t a testosterone crisis in the West,
which people haven't really figured out yet, I think part
of it is just it's dietary. It's the toxic masculinity
(06:32):
hate that the men have been getting there's a lot
of things that come together there too. It's not a
single factor analysis you can do, but Clay, biochemically, you
are more likely to want to get frisky if you
are at a healthier weight. Is the bottom line, male
and female so glps are the most important health revolution
(06:52):
of the twenty first century in my opinion. And also,
I think you're going to help with the baby boom.
There's to be something of an ozeenpic baby boom. If
you will, this is a fantastic Here's my concern. I
think that by the way you respect the barrier Barry right,
Berry White, I mean, if you're if you're in the
baby making mood right Barry Whites, which you got to
(07:13):
throw at.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Very very very very positive.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I would say, here's my concern, and this is it's
it almost is just a math equation. Just make it
very logical if the average woman, and I believe I'm
correct in this is So let's.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Start with point one.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
We would like to have children in marriage right in
an ideal world. So I tell my kids, get married,
have as many babies as you can. Be a good dad,
but you need to get married, right, So you want
a dad and the mom both present. If we are
having incredibly declining rates of marriage and we are also
(07:51):
simultaneously seeing marriage beginning for women, that I'm focusing on
women here because women have babies. We understand that biologically
here we're not a left wing show. If women are
not getting married until they're in their thirties, and this
is now becoming the standard, right the average man is
over thirty, the average woman increasingly is basically thirty years old.
(08:13):
The math equation on this buck just gets hard, and
we need to have more women on talking about this.
But this is because then inevitably it's just like, well,
you're a guy, you don't It's way harder for women
to have babies in their thirties than it is in
their twenties. And if we are both simultaneously creating a
world where the highest educated, most wealthy among us are
(08:37):
not getting married until they're in their thirties, then you
just get into a mathematical equation right where it takes
longer than you expect. You're thirty three when you have
your first baby. The babies are especially first babies, as
you've just learned buck very changing to your lifestyle. And
then you're like Okay, we got to figure out do
(08:58):
we have the time now to have baby number two?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Takes a time.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I just think the math on this when you don't
get married until after thirty on average. I think there
are a lot of people that would be open to
having baby two, baby three, baby one that don't get
in a position where the math adds up because a
lot of women, look, when you get into your upper thirties,
what is it a jerry? This is crazy, But it's
(09:22):
called a the geriatric pregnancy once you hit thirty five,
thirty five, which doesn't feel very old way.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
That is officially medically, that is not a point of contention.
That is not a derogatory thing. That is it is
considered medically a geriatric pregnancy from thirty five. So do
you really know here? My wife had a geriatric pregnancy, So.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
This is I know because my assistant Katie, who has
a couple of different babies, she was like, I couldn't
believe it. They called me a jeriactic pregnant woman because
she was thirty five. I think when she had her
second baby, I think it's just a math equation, and
I think a lot of women out there and I
don't know if it's gonna happen, are going to have
to decide, Hey, what's the most important thing to me?
(10:05):
Is it having a baby or is it getting promoted
to mid tier management in a job that frankly isn't
that desirable of a job. And I think we have
sold this again. People are gonna get mad at me
over this. I think we have sold a lot of
people a bill of goods that your success in a
(10:27):
major multinational corporation defines you more than your success as
a parent. And I think you can speak to this
now that you're a dad. I can certainly speak to
it as a dad, like success in life is great
in professional career, but it pales in comparison to being
a parent.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
This is like a whole different show we're doing now,
But I guess I'll just lean into it and a
whole different show just in terms of how much content
and discussion there can be about this stuff. One thing
that I've seen from my female peers in New York City,
I meaning girls who I grew up with are my age.
A lot of them, I think very they felt a
little lied to by the culture that professional success at
(11:06):
some level would make them desirable mates. We've kind of
run that experiment, and the truth is the guy working
as a gas station attendant and the CEO of the
fortune one hundred company kind of looking for a lot
of the same things. It's and it doesn't equate with
(11:28):
being VP of the marketing firm. They don't Care's the point.
It doesn't actually affect your marketability the same way as
it does in the dating marketplace. By the way, people
can argue me on this, all the data supports this.
I was single a lot in New York City. I've
seen a lot. I understand how these dynamics play out,
no matter whether but what I was referring to, By
(11:49):
the way, there's data that shows that whether you're making
like fifty thousand dollars a year or you know, five
million dollars a year, the top three professions that it's
not that they don't want. People want educated, they want
a educated wife, they want someone. But in terms of
career stuff, nurse, pediatrician, school teacher, black guys, white guys,
(12:13):
hispanic go to.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
That connectivity issue. There is all that would be a
good mom. This is their job that you think a
good mom would have.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yes, and so women who sacrifice This is like the
women that I went to AMers with who went into
investment banking, which has just horrendous and really abusive hours
in your twenties which you exchange for money. It's not
worth it to gain thirty pounds as a woman in
your twenties and have your hair start to fall out,
fall out from stress and anxiety and trying to do
all this stuff because you know you're gonna make like
(12:43):
a slightly bigger bonus than if you took the job
where you're actually doing something you want to do. And
I think a lot of women have been lied to
about that. Men will make those trip. By the way,
Jordan Peterson's been hitting this for years and years. He's
totally right. Men will make these trade offs, like the
guys listening to us who do the crazy like Arctic
fishing thing off of Alaska and they make you know,
(13:04):
eighty grand in the six week season. I'm making up
the numbers when I get knocked into the ocean and die.
Men making but they might freeze to death in the
oh yeah, exactly. They're playing with like big harpoons and
hooks and stuff and captain a hab. Stuff. They do
that knowing that they come home and they're a you know,
they're a more appealing provider. They got more money in
the bank, all this sort of stuff. The economic incentives
(13:27):
in mating are not the same for men and women
as the bottom line, and women have been largely Now
now there're gonna be some guys who call in who
watch MS now and who are beta malets are like,
I want a provider as well. I'm not saying you
don't want a woman who has a job. I'm saying
that people who sacrificed life for job, who are women oftentimes,
because remember, the timelines are different, they look back at
(13:49):
this now and they're like, no one told me. No
one told me that mortgaging my twenties and deep into
my thirties so that I could be on a super
aggressive career track had real consequences for me that the
men don't have. We can have kids in our sixties.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
This is the key.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
You can be a guy and say I want to
work ninety hours a week in my twenties and thirties,
and you can make put yourself in a position where
you're making a lot of money, and then at forty
five you can decide, hey, you know what I want
to get married, and there are tons of from frankly,
from twenty five to you know, thirty five, your old women,
(14:24):
you saw it all the time.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
My d my dating options once I hit thirty five
were more available than in my twenties, like by like
an order of magnitude.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
And so it is a biology is real. And I think, again,
when you don't get married until your thirties, the math
on this, I'm not surprised, honestly, because I think the
fulfillment you decide, hey, I had one, your thirty six,
thirty seven two may or may not happen.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
And I do think it's a it's a major issue.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Going forward because the most ed, educated, successful societies are
having the least amount of children and that does not
seem good.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And by the way, the wealthiest societies and.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
By the way, they're importing a lot of people from
societies where they're not educated and they're having a lot
of kids. And there are social costs that come with
that too, because now you're creating a massive welfare state
and there's there's problems with that. So anyway, see, we
got into a whole other conversation here. I might actually
want to talk some sports coming up. That's right, owners,
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It's a whole vibe, all.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Right, Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Clay, You're gonna
have to explain this to me on the flip side, Okay,
but I'm gonna get to this now. This just popped
up in my feed. I learned about the sports media
from you because I'd pay no attention to it, know
nothing about it. This is from a comedian, Peter Ravello.
I just think this is kind of fun we could
have on a Friday. He did this on the on
the Tonight Show on NBC. But this is a little
bit he did on sports talk radio, which you used
(16:53):
to do. Play eighteen.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
I'm going to therapy and guys run from blue collar
New York guys. They don't really do arapy.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
This is what they do.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
They call up.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Sports talk radio. That's how they get it out. Vinnie's
calling about the Yankees, but it's not really about the Yankees.
He calls up, He's like, Mike, what's going on? Yankees
doing it this year? Also, you haven't got sands. You
(17:23):
have a stare at the moon and wonder if the
Jets says standing at that same.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Moon, Clay, you used to do sports talk radio? Is
it kind of like this for some guys?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
This is so perfect. Sports are so many men's emotional outlet.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
If you see a guy screaming at the television, and
trust me, I've been there a lot, it's not always
just about what's going on on the screen. And Rush
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Sexton show Awesome assistant Katie was listening. She says that
jeriactic pregnancy. She just texted me she was listening to
the show.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Now they're starting to move on from jeriactic pregnancy because
so many women were I think rocked at the age
of thirty five by hearing that they were a jeriactic pregnancy.
They now call it in many places, Buck, this is
advanced maternal age or AMA to try to make women
less stunned. I think by the concept of a jerry
(19:31):
and I.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Totally disagree with this. I think that they should let
people should know. You shouldn't because it's a biological reality.
This isn't about feelings. This is about with each passing
year after thirty five, your risk of complications goes up,
your chances of getting pregnant goes down, your chance of
bringing the baby full term goes down. All of the
people women need to note. My female friends that I
(19:54):
grew up with, like I said, in New York, so
many of them were just lied to them about this stuff,
lied to by the culture. Go be a girl, boss.
You have plenty of time. You have plenty of time.
The guys are partying, you know, go go to Tulum, eat, pray,
love your way through. Now. I understand this may be
a very specific thing to people in New York, LA, DC, Boston, Chicago,
(20:18):
but I's not the good time in all those places.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I think it's very common for highly educated women. They
are told that they can have it all, and some,
to be fair, are able to manage all of it
better than others. But if you don't find the right
person to your point, like you're hanging out with guys
at twenty five and thirty and thirty three and thirty
four that can be able to do the fancy vacations
(20:45):
and still have the high end success. But those guys
might decide at forty five Hey, I'm gonna get married,
i'm gonna settle down, I'm gonna have kids, and that
option is available to them, and you suddenly look around.
You're thirty nine years old, you're in middle management. Maybe
you're making a decent salary, but I don't think it's
that fulfilling. And I think a lot of women have
(21:05):
been sold. And then they look around and the thirty
nine year old guy doesn't feel the same pressure that
the thirty nine year old woman does.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
And here's the other.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Reality, buck, it's way harder for women to date young right,
way harder for thirty nine year old woman to find.
First of all, men or morons in their twenties oftentimes
and aren't that serious. So it's hard to find. Like,
let's say you're thirty nine and you want to date
a twenty eight year old. Thirty nine year old guy
can date a lot of twenty eight year olds. Most
twenty eight year old guys are not going to seriously
(21:35):
date a thirty nine year old woman to stay with.
So the math on this is different. We got a
we want to play this rush cut because you played
a funny clip as we went to break of how
male sports talker radio is often.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Before we get to the rush cut though. I mean,
have you had guys called to like Clay, I just
want to say, I love what's going on with Auburn.
They're doing great, and you know, my wife and I
are having problems, But like, did you ever have to
doctor phill the situation? Because we thought you were there
to do sports analysis, but really someone just wanted to
call into chat.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Look, this has to do with during COVID, and I'm
not claiming that sports talker radio is saving the world,
far from it. But during COVID March April May June
twenty twenty, I was doing nationwide sports talker radio for
Fox Sports Radio, leading into Dan Patrick and Colin Cowherd
(22:30):
and sports shutdown. Sports shutdowns didn't exist. For those of
you who have forgotten, I know a lot of people
imagine doing three hours a day of sports talker radio
March April May June of twenty twenty. To a large extent,
my job then, Buck, I really mean this was to
be a therapist for people who are otherwise sports fans,
(22:51):
because a lot of people didn't get the opportunity to
just sit at home and eat Cheetos and watch Netflix
a lot of guys, especially early in the morning, are
up on the road. They're driving, and sports is their
escape from the serious things in life.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
You got a wife who might be sick or not
very happy with you, You got a mom and dad
who might be aging.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Sports is your escape. It is your.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Sanity, and a lot of it is I mean, I'm
telling you a lot of it is a emotional connection,
which is not now.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I want to go back and listen to old Clay
Travis shows just to hear some guy call in like, well,
you know, I love Ohio State so much, and like
they're not playing and play tell me a story, you know,
just like Clay tell me it's going to be okay.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I'm telling you. You go back and you listen to
a lot of those March, April, May and June shows.
A lot of it was therapy for guys that were
busting their ass and didn't have sports to be able
to escape and the world's falling down around them, and
they still got to be in that truck and they
got to deliver that beer to a gas station, or
they got to still be, you know, showing up at
their jobs. Whenever everybody the higher end, your job. Was
(24:02):
you just slept in, right, You're not waking up at
six am? How many remember when like everybody was getting
up at like ten am in the morning. They started
to look at the data and nobody was waking up
early in the morning. Who had you know, working from home?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Things changed enormously and a lot of people didn't get
that opportunity and still had to go and work. No
matter what, it's very important being able to separate yourself
from just the rudimentary routine that you're in on a
day to day basis, whether it's prayer, meditation, I'm actually
(24:35):
doing yoga with carry after this yoga sports. I find
video games me elon and I I find video games
are a super easy way to kind.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Of what is your right now? About video games?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I try not to play them when I feel like
I women hate women hate men playing video games sports
like they may not love you watching sports. They really
hate walking in I'm talking about like twenties and thirties,
and I try to, like slyly sort of just turn
it off, like just checking to see if it still works,
(25:10):
you know. But as as a general rule, women do
not find it attractive for men to play video and
I'm like, when I'm like changing diapers and cleaning the kitchen,
I get wifey walking around, you know, spandex and feeling
great when she catches a little too much video games
going on, all of a sudden, wifeis like triple XL sweatshirt,
(25:31):
like Missus Doubtfire style out there. It's just it's amazing
how that happens. The young men, and I know we
have some young men listening just have this idea that
you know, they're gonna have a girlfriend and she's gonna
be incredibly good looking and she's gonna love playing Call
of Duty with him.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Right, Like, there's this there's this young male fantasy.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It's like we're just gonna we're just gonna be like
fighting World War two battles. And then when we're tired
of fighting World War two battles on Call of Duty,
we're gonna take out and it's gonna be that's probably.
And they sell them, right, they sell them on this
idea because there's a couple of pretty girls, like what
was the Olivia mun back in the days, Like I
love video games and Star Wars and I'm gonna dress
(26:12):
up like Princess Leigh and we're just gonna play just.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Like all the all the Maxim magazine models and the
heyday of Maxim magazine. They would do some little interview
and they're just like, I like a guy with a
little bit of a beer belly that I can hug
and cuddle. It's like, sure you do, Sure you do?
Uh Olga the bikini model, like absolutely.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Rush, coming back to this cliff, when you shared that
comedian's take.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
What was the comedian's name? By the way, should we
give him credit? Did we give give the credit again
for it? I'll pull it up right now. Make sure
they give Hieter Peter Ravello doing his routine on the
Now I follow him because, like I just I thought
that was a really funny routine. He's got some other
funny bits too, sports talker, And this is one good
thing about Instagram. By the way, comedians have just taken
(26:59):
off on the reels function. If you find a couple
of funny cuts, like, it's been phenomenal for them. But
so that comedian talking about sports talk radio callers. Rush obviously,
as many of you know, was huge sports fan, was
involved in sports for much of his career of a
variety of different perspectives in fact, there was talk for
(27:20):
a while that Rush was going to buy his own
team because of the success he had with this radio program.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
But here is.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Rush talking about when he worked for the Kansas City
Royals back in the day and what sports teams did
and meant to people. I thought this was really interesting,
well done, pulled by the staff. This is from twenty seventeen,
I believe cut nineteen one.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Thing about sports fandom. I had a sociologist from Harvard
once tell me that the great thing about sports and
I've never forgotten this, folks. I was working for Kansady
royalsmater winter meetings one year in Scottsdale, Arizona. We had
this Harvard sociology, a nice little one. My first reaction,
are you kidding me? We've got some ivy leaguer coming
(28:05):
down here trying to tell us added techniques on marketing
our teams.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
And yeah, yeah, yeah. So I went, well, it was mandatory.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I went and the guy said something that was actually
one of those things that when he said it, yeah
absolutely wish you could have thought of it yourself, but
you didn't. He said, the beauty of sports. Now I
remember all this is in the context of us who
were in marketing and sales, trying to expand the number
of people visit the ballpark or watch on TV, and
(28:39):
ways to exploit their fandom.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
He said, the unique thing.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
About sports is the one thing you can invest total
passion without consequence. He said, try that with a woman,
or there were some women. He looked at them, said
try that with a man. And what he meant by
that one your team may lose and they may disappoint you,
(29:06):
but your team will never try to take half of
what you've got. Your team will never divorce you. Team
will never reject you. Your team will never unless you
throw a beer on a player, they'll never kick you
out of the place. But when interpersonal relationships all everybody
their first time they get heart and break or hurt,
they're reserved after that. They don't want that to happen again,
(29:28):
and so they do not invest their passion totally because
there's consequence. When you can and this is the definition
of uber fandom, invest total passion without consequence, it's.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Really kind of fascinating, and I mean, I think again,
there are women who are sports fans, you know, twenty
five percent of sports fandom. But for most diehard sports
fans is male, and it is really kind of interesting
to think through that. And many of you, maybe in
your relationships with your dad, or your brothers or your
best friends. A huge portion of the conversations that I
(30:08):
have with the men in my family is sports related. Right,
The boys in my family still sports related. It's a
form of love language for men that is not defined
in that way. And I thought the comedian on the
flip on a funny side of it making that point
and then rush on a more serious side kind of
deconstructing the psychology behind it does make sense.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Well, it's important for people to be able to have
conversations that share any kind of a common ground, which
I know you this is why. And I have to
take credit for this because it's true. It's an observation
about Clay and he admits it. He straight up trusts
you and likes you more if you're an SEC football fan.
He's like, oh, I can give you the keys to
my car. You're you're a good dude or gal, You're
a good person. You like SEC football. But being able
(30:52):
to find common ground with people that you can share
is very powerful and it reminds me of I feel like
I used to think that small talk was There's a
lot of people say, I don't do small talk or
small talks a waste of time. Small talk is actually
just about establishing the energy and the exchange between two people.
(31:12):
It's kind of like, hey, i'm here, I'm a friendly
and I'm hoping you're good and we're all good, and
it's putting everyone at ease. Right. Small talk is not
about the exchange of information. It's the exchange of energy
that comes from it, or the intent, if you will,
of the exchange, which is, hey, I'm happy to see you,
you're happy to see me. I wish you well, you
(31:33):
wish me well. And we're talking about the weather because
people don't really care to talk about the weather. But
the point is establishing that commonality. And I see that
a lot with the people who are sports ball fans.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
And by the way, you know what, that commonality often
is lost in now phones because it used to be
that you would have conversations with strangers more now. What
most of us do, and I do this too, is
if you're standing in a line, or if you're engaged
in you know, some activity, so many people look down
(32:05):
at their phones and so you dial out of the
circumstances and surroundings around you and your human interaction has
now been translated into the phone. We've got a funny clip,
somewhat funny. It's good for me from Kamala Harris that
we will play those out that we will play to
(32:26):
close out the week for all of you. Sports going
to spike the football early on his way out this weekend.
We'll see if any of.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
You are angry about anything that has been said during
the course of the week as we get ready for
the final segment. Just a reminder, Buck Sexton is the
person that you're upset with. He's the way if you
if any women out there are angry over the discussion
about birth rates and everything, Buck is the one that
you're mad at. Just a reminder and now you can
take us into the break.
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Speaker 3 (34:06):
Welcome back into clay En Buck closing up shop here
for the weekend. If he were around, I think he's
out walking with mom and with his mom and his
grandmother right now, but I would show you Jimmy Speed
on his last day as a yearo year old. He
turns one tomorrow. His birthday Jimmy Speed came a year
(34:30):
ago tomorrow, so many of you were, of course listening
during that week. I think I was out for a
couple of days or a day or two. I think
I was back at work on Tuesday. And yeah, Jimmy
Speed was born a year ago. He is the absolute
most joyful, happy little guy in the world. I occasionally
post him smiling, giggling or laughing on Instagram, So go
(34:53):
follow out Buck Sexton on Instagram if you want them now, though, Clay,
if people are just like I just need more Jimmy
Speed or I call him jim Speed. Speed is his name,
James Speed. But they're like, I just want more Speed photos,
like we didn't see your face. Buck, I'm like, all right,
fair enough. Is I get it? Super super cute? That'll
be fun. Are you gonna do the have a cake
and let him dive into it?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Plan? Is this the yes?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah? With his with his grandma, his mom my, brother,
so his uncles, We're gonna do a little family gathering
for him and just give him access to a k
I mean he is going to he is going to
tear that thing up in the first three seconds. He's
gotten to that point now where you know, he's got
more motor skills and strength than wisdom, and he just
(35:36):
makes it his ginger Spice the dog, she our dog.
She now waits at the bottom of his high chair,
just knowing that a bounty of delicious goodness is on
the way, because he'll just he eats something and then
half of it ends up getting thrown like a baseball
onto the floor. And that's just the way it is.
So there you go. H you wanted to do from Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I know, I thought we were gonna play Kamala here.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
You can save Kamala for Monday.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
You can.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You can do your little fig on. I will save
Kamala for Monday. Who knows what the news will be.
You hit the talkbacks. Just know that Buck has got
to start saving up for another big steak dinner.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
And we'll teach that for Monday.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Kamala, Kamala's destroying America and my bank account. H Dina
from Cleveland. Hi, good afternoon. I just wanted to tell
you guys, I absolutely love when my boyfriend plays video games.
We actually have to fight over the PlayStation because we
both like to play them. So no, by all means
(36:37):
have your video game. I'll sit there and watch.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
And play with you.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Dina, you are what they call a unit for Yeah,
I'm still not sure you exist in the wild, but
if you do, you are rare.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Very few women love watching their boyfriends play video games,
but he found one.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Congrats. We'll be back Monday.
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