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August 4, 2026 36 mins

Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show focused on the growing influence of progressive Democratic candidates, identity politics, criminal justice debates, COVID-era accountability, media narratives, and the ongoing national conversation surrounding transgender participation in women’s sports. The hour opened with discussion of key Midwest races, including Michigan’s Democratic Senate primary and Wisconsin’s gubernatorial contest, before shifting heavily toward what the hosts described as the increasingly radical positions of Wisconsin Democratic candidate Francesca Hong. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton examined several of Hong’s past comments involving prisons, race, the Supreme Court, tipping culture, and American society, arguing that she represents a broader ideological movement within modern progressive politics.

A major segment centered on Hong’s comments regarding criminal justice reform and prison abolition. The hosts criticized what they viewed as evasive answers regarding incarceration and public safety while discussing broader issues of crime, race, and policing. Clay and Buck argued that many contemporary progressive activists frame criminal justice debates primarily through racial lenses and suggested that this approach increasingly dominates Democratic Party messaging. The conversation expanded into a broader critique of identity politics, race-based political frameworks, and academic theories that the hosts believe have moved from universities into mainstream political discourse.

The hosts repeatedly described what they called “race communism” as a driving force behind many modern progressive policy proposals. Throughout the hour, Clay and Buck discussed concepts such as systemic racism, criminal justice disparities, racial identity, and social justice activism, arguing that contemporary progressives increasingly analyze virtually every policy issue through race-based frameworks. Francesca Hong’s references to “proximity to whiteness” and racial identity politics received particular attention, with the hosts debating how those ideas resonate with voters in political battleground states such as Wisconsin.

Another significant topic involved progressive efforts to reform American political institutions. Clay and Buck highlighted Hong’s support for expanding the Supreme Court and discussed what they viewed as broader Democratic efforts to reshape constitutional institutions when electoral outcomes do not align with progressive goals. The hosts framed these positions as examples of a larger ideological shift that could influence future state and national elections.

The conversation also touched on cultural issues and economic narratives after the hosts examined comments Hong made about tipping culture and its historical origins. The discussion broadened into a wider debate about whether modern progressive politics tends to interpret ordinary aspects of daily life through race and power dynamics. Clay and Buck argued that many traditional American customs and institutions are increasingly subjected to ideological criticism under these frameworks.

Later in the hour, the hosts revisited New York City mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani’s proposed government grocery store program, discussing reports that identification requirements tied to the initiative had been revised following public criticism. Clay argued that taxpayer-subsidized grocery pricing would inevitably create shortages, secondary markets, and other unintended consequences, while Buck suggested the proposal reflected broader tensions between government intervention and market economics.

The final portion of Hour 3 turned toward COVID-19 accountability, public trust, and Anthony Fauci’s legacy, sparked by an appearance from Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Aaron Rodgers on ESPN’s Pat McAfee Show. Rodgers sharply criticized Dr. Anthony Fauci and the government’s handling of COVID-era messaging, mandates, and public health policies. Clay and Buck argued that public opinion has shifted significantly since the height of the pandemic and suggested many media, government, and public health figures have avoided accountability for inaccurate statements regarding COVID origins, vaccine effectiveness, masking, lockdowns, and related policies. The hosts discussed how athletes such as Aaron Rodgers, Novak Djokovic, and Kyrie Irving became flashpoints in those debates because of their opposition to vaccine mandates and restrictions.

The program also explored how media coverage has evolved since the pandemic, with Clay and Buck arguing that narratives once dismissed as fringe, including the possibility of a laboratory origin for COVID-19, now receive mainstream consideration. They contrasted today’s environment with the intense criticism directed toward individuals who questioned official guidance during

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in our number three, Clay Travis. We are
rolling through the Tuesday edition of the program a ton
of different stories that we are following. Let me kind
of give you a little bit of a rundown where
we are. Michigan primary season underway, the big one on
the Democrat side, Hailey Stevens versus Abdul Lsied that is

(00:24):
going to determine who runs against Mike Rogers. Also John
James going up in the Republican side of the governor's
race in an open side seat with we have the
two term incumbent governor now having to step down, and

(00:44):
the expectation is that Republicans can actually be somewhat competitive
in that state.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
With Gretchen Whitmer on her way out.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
We have, as I speak to all of you at
this exact moment, record high stock prices being set all
time high in the S and P five hundred and
also in the in the dal Jones, we have a
continued fallout of our fun surrounding the ridiculousness of men

(01:17):
being able to compete in women's pro basketball. The Nashville Balls,
as you heard in the last hour, continue to provoke
and a lot of reaction and we have in Wisconsin
this crazy Democrat candidate, Francesca Hong, who has managed to
put together a series of the most improbable, crazy, insane

(01:42):
left wing talking points that anyone has been able to
put together anywhere. Now, other aspects out there. Todd Blanche
the next Attorney general. His nomination has made it out
of committee. It does appear that he will be officially
confirmed and will be able to take over there. But Buck,

(02:07):
I do think some of these stories about Francesca Hong
are so crazy that I want to play a few
more of these cuts. Earlier, we had Francesca Hong choosing
not to say that she made a poor decision when
she said we should cancel Thanksgiving. She also wants to

(02:30):
end all prisons, defund the police. This chick is crazy.
Here is cut nine on that, and I'm going to
just run through a bunch of these crazy socialist positions
that she has.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Let's listen. Cut nine.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
You said you don't support abolishing prisons. Do you still
hold the view that you laid out in May, which
was that in a perfect world, it would be a
world without prisons.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
I think talking about what may be aspirational and then
understanding the rule of the governor they can and cannot do,
and what is implementable right now. These are different conversations.
If we're going to be serious about public safety and
ensure that everyone's human right to feel safe is what
we are trying to do. We have to make sure

(03:15):
that the system right now that is incarcerating more black
and brown men than any other state in the country
right now where we have our schools are having to
go to a referendum just to try to figure out
if they can keep the lights on, making sure that
we are delivering solutions, not focusing on labels or slogans,
because governing ultimately is about making sure that we're working

(03:39):
with our partners in communities on the issues that they
care about.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
A lot of word salad there, Buck, But she got
to the staples of black and brown people are being
put in prison more. That's because black and brown people
commit more crimes than, for instance, Asian people do, right,
I mean this.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
Whole argument way more.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yes, if you look at murder, murder overwhelmingly committed by
young black men. That's why young black men are in
prison for murder more than Asian men are. In fact,
if we had the murder rate of Asian men across
the entire United States for both Hispanic, white and Black,
there would be almost no murder rate at all if

(04:24):
you actually do the research to look at, for instance,
the rate of violent crime that Asian men are involved in,
the whole United States would effectively have no violent crime
if we had the Asian male violent crime rate. I
told you when I was in Taiwan, I looked up
the stats because it is a everyone should experience. You

(04:46):
should find a country or a place you can go
to where there is essentially no violent crime and so
little property crime as to be like a lightning strike
situation you did with you her cell phone and a
coffee shop in Taiwan.

Speaker 6 (05:02):
Well, I didn't do it, but I saw people doing it,
meaning yeah, people leave there. So if you're at a
coffee shop in Taipei, which has six million people, the
capital of Taiwan, you can and Steve Yates our buddies
Nation States with Yates Great podcast. He was my my Shirpa,
my guru through all things Taiwan. He was there with me.

(05:23):
But Clay people would leave their phone down to hold
their spot just to let someone know, oh, this chair
is taken. So they'd get up, they go to the bathroom,
they'd leave their thousand dollars phone or by the way,
their their fancy handbag, whatever it is, without a second thought.
And the part of it that was even funnier to
me was how funny it was to the Taiwanese. Like

(05:45):
we had a you know, a guide with us, a
minder and and I said, you know, what are they doing?
And she said, what do you mean, what are they doing?
I said, aren't they Aren't they worried? Why why would
they be worried? Well, like, it's this whole We have
been raised two things, or rather, we have lived in
a society where it is normal to think that we
just have to have people who murder people for no reason,

(06:07):
who steal things constantly, who have no regard for the laws,
no accountability for themselves whatsoever, and that that's just gonna be.
By the way, it's less than one percent, even in
a high crime city, it's less than one percent of
the overall population doing the violent crime. So that should
be really heartening to everybody. But there's a disparity, and

(06:28):
the disparity is that an overwhelming majority of the violent
crime in every major American city is black and Latino
or black and Hispanic, same thing, black and brown people effectively.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
And this is.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
Why she immediately she's just trying to say that this
is clay. Like I said, she's a race communist, so
this is what she's supposed to say. Do you remember
the Socle hoax? You heard this before. I just think
this is such a is So the Socle hoax was
this guy back in the late nineties. He was a
physicist and he wanted to prove how stupid and how

(07:03):
stupid the postmodernist departments of these different universities were, and
how if you just put a bunch of words together
that they know the buzzwords, Yeah, like you know, like
black and brown people, abolish prison, blah blah.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
You say these things.

Speaker 6 (07:18):
Right, communities, communities of color, and social justice and reparative
justice and all these things.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
You say these things.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
So this guy wrote a paper meant to be completely absurd,
and it got published right away in like some elite
academic journal. And the guy's name was Socle. That's why
it's called the SoCal hoax. When you hear this woman talking,
it's like she's running a SoCal hoax. It's just a
bunch of words put together to show I'm a social
justice warrior, I'm a race communist. So Caitlyn Collins, that

(07:49):
was her CNN show. I give her credit for asking
the questions. Buck, you know this to be true too.
If Caitlyn Collins, as a white woman, given the standards
of race in identity politics on the left, if she
pushed back and she said, well, you say that black
and brown people are being over overly put in prisons.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Here are the data? Are you suggesting that people who
commit violent crime shouldn't be put in prison? Here's the data.
I'm gonna run through it and push back against this.
She would be in danger of losing her job because
it might go viral, and they would say, how dare
a white woman push back against the idea that there

(08:32):
isn't a mass incarceration issue here? By the way, Buck,
speaking of race politics, Francesca Hong is married to a
white man, as often many of these race communists are.
Isn't Elon Omar married to a white man? Rashida tale Heo?
She is married to a real Kamala Harris is married

(08:54):
to a Jewish lawyer, a white guy. Here is Francesca
Hong just describing having a half white son, and so
she lives in proximity to whiteness.

Speaker 7 (09:07):
I wasn't always aware of the struggles of other communities
of color, because for me, a simulation always kind of
took over, and so I did marry. My proximity to
whiteness continues, right, I am. My son is biracial. He's
half white and half Korean, and I think navigating you

(09:29):
what his identity is and and how people perceive him
is always at the back of my mind as well.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Proximity to whiteness is such a ridiculous phrase that could
only come out of these race communists, so they don't
talk like normal people.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's like Latin X.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Remember when they tried to decide that everything was going
to be a LATINX proximity to whiteness proximity to blackness,
Like this is just absurd. Here's another couple by the way, Buck.
Just to get all these in, she also said, well,
we got to expand the Supreme Court, cut Tin, So.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
You do support the Senate, the Supreme Court, and prisons,
the existence of prisons.

Speaker 7 (10:07):
Yes, I support all those things right now that are
helping to ensure that there is public safety but I
do believe right now in our Supreme Court that we
should be working to expand.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
The court, expand the court. She does now support the Senate.
That's nice to know because a bunch of the Democrats
socialists say that the Senate should be abolished. That's their
new argument as well as the Court. Buck Here's one more.
She says tipping is racist, tipping giving people money to
provide a service.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
This is cut.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Twelve in the service industry.

Speaker 7 (10:37):
We are finally having this conversation about how our industry
really did come from it and kind of is rooted
in white supremacy. That tipping in itself. If we look
at the history of tipping and how racist it is
and how it has kept wages low for black people
for very long time, and if you look at tipping now,

(10:58):
how different the scales are in terms of who receives
some higher percentage of the tips over other folks.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
First of all, if you're going to talk about black
people in tipping, I would submit that a lot of
people would say black people do not tip on the
same level as other people, which I don't know if
that's considered to be racist. But that's the flip side
of tipping itself being racist. Of course, here is the reality.
Everything is racist. Every single thing for these race communists

(11:30):
is racist. Again, Buck, I am optimistic that Republicans are
going to be able to win this race. You know
who says that he thinks Republicans are going to win
the race when this chick is is nominated. Buck, the
current Democrat governor just came out and said, if she's
the nominee, Republicans are going to win the governor's office

(11:53):
in Wisconsin, which would be huge coming into twenty twenty
eight when we're talking about having Wisconsin being yet again
one of the must win states for.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Democrats and Republicans.

Speaker 6 (12:05):
But I would remind everyone that once again to our
race communism discussion here within the Soviet Union, within true
communist countries, everything is always through the lens of how
do we center this around Marxism? How do we also
use language that is jargon meant to give some veneer

(12:29):
of rationality or even science to what we're doing, like
scientific elevation to what we're doing. And you see this
with the way that they talk about all this stuff.
It's always it's always about centering proximity to all this stuff.
It's jargon because it's all through. You asked, is everything racist? Yes,

(12:53):
fundamentally that is their position, the race Communists of America,
which is a primary ideologue underpinning a foundational element of
the modern Democrat Party after it was the party of
slavery and abject actual racism for a long time.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Whole other discussion.

Speaker 6 (13:09):
The modern Democrat Party is a raced communism obsessed party,
and it has to be because race communism is inherently
an obsession. Everything has to be seen through Clay Tipping
is racist. School is racist, how education, housing is racist?
Criminal justice obviously racist. You know, beauty standards, race, everything

(13:32):
is racist. Everything is racist. And you realize how oppressive
this ideology is for the people who believe it, first
of all because they're psychos, and also for the rest
of us because we have to try to cater to this.
Everything is racist all the time. Even really good thing
NFL draft, Clay people being elevated through the pinnacle of

(13:53):
our society and wealth and fame racist. If the NFL draft.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Is racist, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
Right, I mean, we could play this game all day.
What is not medical doctors, medical school racist? What is
not racist to these people? Her own family, proximity to whiteness. Racist.
Everything is racist. This is a mental illness everybody, just
like communism is actually really a corrosion of the soul
more than it is a political system. That's what you

(14:21):
see here, and it's unfortunately spread deep in this country.
I hope that people of Wisconsin, Clay will reject this
because it is flatly and clearly insane.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
But you're nervous that they're not. I'm gonna rely on
our good friends in Wisconsin to actually be willing and
able to reject this crazy chick. But to your point,
the risk reward here, best case scenario, these people lose.
Can you imagine what Wisconsin would be like with this
chick in power?

Speaker 2 (14:52):
I mean, this is.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
How can she handle being in so much proximity to whiteness.
There's a lot of white people in Wisconsin, a lot
of proximity to white a proximity whiteness. It's really crazy,
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(15:37):
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Speaker 5 (16:31):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
I'm gonna get to a quick listener talk back here
because this is a fun one. Talkback be Bonnie from
Harrisonburg hit it pound.

Speaker 9 (16:39):
Do undocumented people buy groceries at these grocery stores in
New York?

Speaker 6 (16:46):
Well, it turns out, by the way, everyone was pointing
out that Mam Donnie's grocery stores required ID not to vote,
but to buy taxpayer subsidized bread and milk and stuff. Clay,
they've walked that back. So the answer is, I think
you will just be able to walk into these stores
and buy stuff, including undocumented people. They're not going to
get idea anymore because of all of the ID backlash

(17:07):
that they have had, So maybe illegals could go in
and get the taxpayer funding groceries. By the way, I'm
sure I'm Donnie would want.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
Them to look.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
I think what that's going to immediately lead to, and
I would encourage media to cover it is if they're
selling products for under thirty for thirty percent less than
what their market value would be. Those shelves are going
to get immediately cleaned out, and people are going to
be selling that those groceries on the black market. That's
how markets work. So it feels inevitable to me that

(17:37):
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Speaker 1 (18:44):
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my friend Joe Kinzie, who is a writer at OutKick,
just sent me this. The WNBA Wokes swear you're overreacting.
There's no trend threat to the league. Meanwhile, six foot
three French trans pena French trans phenom. He's averaging twenty

(19:10):
and twenty in the Women's League Professional Basketball League. This
dude Buck has got arms that would make Schwartzenegger Schwartzenegger blush.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
Do you see this guy?

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Ye, his name is Julie to Tart.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
He's ready to go if a WNBA calls, team calls.
This is a Nashville Balls franchise player. Buck already a
twenty twenty guy. I mean, has got biceps and triceps
that would make your average weightlifter who is going to
the gym multiple times a week blush. Like I said,
and Julie to Tart is, I mean, this is this

(19:50):
is our post presence that will that will take over
in the w NBA.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
Can I just.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
Say that while Julie has painted fingernails, very very clearly
painted fingernails in this photo. You could just give me
a cutout of the wrist down to the bicep and
say male or female, and I would be able to

(20:16):
tell you with a ninety nine percent certainty just looking
at that that.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
That is a dude.

Speaker 6 (20:22):
A woman without exogenous hormones cannot look like that.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Not possible, I think.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
And people are saying, homs what you mean, I mean
massive amounts of external testosterone injected and probably steroids on
top of that.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
This man has incredible muscles, but he also has I'm
just zooming in Pence, which I think not Mike Pence.
Pence say, I think is French? If I remember my
high school fringe.

Speaker 6 (20:54):
He has or think yes on his bicep is Pulsey
may we yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Well, I didn't want people to think it was Mike Pence,
Like this guy was just a huge Yeah, that would
be a little bit of an upset if he was
a huge Mike Pince fan in the French basketball league.
Can you imagine a French dude pretending to be a woman,
what those postgame interviews would be like? Like this would
be absolutely incredible. Okay, So, Buck, I wanted to play

(21:23):
this for you on ESPN yesterday Pat McAfee, who is
very saying relative to ESPN standards, and I give him credit,
he's been having Aaron Rodgers on for a long time.
Aaron Rodgers, along with Novak Jokovic and Kyrie Irving, refused
to get the COVID shot. They were ripped to the

(21:43):
high heavens by so many people in sports media. What
Aaron Rodgers was on from Pittsburgh Steelers training camp yesterday,
And I don't know if you've heard this yet, Buck,
but he started off his interview with Pat McAfee by
saying that he was going to take the fifth just
like Fou he did, and then he truly teed off
on Anthony Fauci. And this is relevant because a lot

(22:06):
of athletes were not allowed to play, or they were
given substantial restrictions if they said they didn't want to
get the COVID shot. Aaron Rodgers foremost among those players
in the NFL. As I mentioned Kyrie Irving in the NBA,
rememberably he could sit courtside and watch games, but he
wasn't allowed to actually play in them. And Novak Djokovic.

(22:27):
Remember didn't Djokovic have to sit in a isolated Australian
hotel room for a couple of weeks to try to
play in the Australian Open, And then they refused to
allow him into the Australian Open, which likely cost him
a major. They wouldn't let him play in the US Open,
even as millions of people were illegally crossing into the

(22:48):
United States on.

Speaker 5 (22:49):
Our southern border.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
We were restricting Yokovic from being able to come here
because he had not gotten the COVID shot.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Here is Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yet yesterday on ESPN he brought the two by four
for Anthony Fauci.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
Listen, how do you kind of view this year verse?
Maybe the years of the past?

Speaker 9 (23:07):
I'm gonna plead the fifth Okay, Like I love that guy,
like that absolute coward, Tony Faucher, absolute swar. Yeah are
you kidding me?

Speaker 5 (23:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (23:21):
You got a pardon and you're in front of you
and you pleaded over a hundred times at the White House.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
What are you scared of?

Speaker 9 (23:26):
Tony? I thought you were the science. Yeah, yeah, I
thought you I am science And you get up there
and you can't answer a question.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
What are we doing?

Speaker 9 (23:33):
And how much time did the network spend of that?
How much time did they spend on my responses every
week on my vaccination stat at An Taylor at Travis's wedding?
Did they do even a minute?

Speaker 5 (23:44):
Did they do even a minute on Tony Fouch.

Speaker 9 (23:46):
You're spending the entire time right in his diary about
how fun it is to be famous.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
You gotta be kidding me.

Speaker 9 (23:53):
What are they gonna say about me now? Now now
that you can't talk about the COVID stuff because obviously
it was it was made, you know, in a lab
in China, that's like not even a questionable anymore.

Speaker 10 (24:02):
Tony Fauci is an absolute criminal buck. I mean that
is ESPN. You could hear everybody cheering in the background.
The worm has turned in a significant way for Anthony Faucci,
where he's being made fun of left and right, where frankly,
the thing that he cared about the most, which was
how the public viewed him, he now has become a

(24:23):
laughing stock. And I think this is going to grow
even more because you shared a video clip.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Even the top Biden advisors during COVID are now coming
out and saying, well, I definitely have started to see
more evidence, which is persuading me that this has actually
come out of a Chinese lab. All of a sudden,
everybody is humiliated to be the last man sort of
in the cult. I think the analogy you used was

(24:52):
now that the cult leader has been shown to be
a liar and isn't even willing to testify about the
beliefs of the cult. Now you don't want to be
the last member of the cult. And so I do
think this has turned in a significant way where even
on ESPN, Aaron Rodgers is now going on in teeing
off on Anthony Fauci as well he should based on

(25:14):
the way that people like Fauci teed.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Off on him.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
I still ask this question, and I suppose we have
reached out to doctor Budock Charia, but I want to
know maybe RFK Junior will come on and talk to
us about this. Why is it that if you currently
go on AI, which I know you might say, oh
who cares? But is effectively Google? If you go online

(25:41):
and you say were the COVID shots effective? You will
get yes, and here's all the reasons why they were
so effective. If you go on and say does masking
reduce the spread of COVID. You will get yes, and
they'll go on to all these because it's still pulling
from what has been on there as official government guidance

(26:03):
and science more than guidance.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
On all this stuff.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
And we we have not corrected this for the record
that Trump administration is not. Now I'm just going to
tell you part of this is Trump with Operation Warpspeed.
He still says it was amazing and it was like
the Manhattan Project, but for vaccines and everything that's Trump. Okay,
take it for what it's worth. He has not backed
off that at all. And everyone says, okay, well, we'll

(26:28):
we'll let him say what he wants on this one
because he's good on so many other things and we
need him. Okay, fine, But he still says that, and
I think that's part of it. But Trump's not going
to be the president forever, and we actually should have
a correction of the record here. I mean it should
say everyone should know that the COVID vaccine first generation,

(26:49):
which was the only one that really mattered, because that
was the one with the mandates and everything else. They
think it reduced the spread for like a couple of
weeks a bit, and then uh, the the the reduct
reduction actually just evaporated over time, and what a crappy
vaccine that is. Yes, and then on the hospitalization front too,

(27:12):
there's a lot of data that you could look at
the shows that it really didn't reduce that a whole lot,
if at all either. But Clay, my point here is
we still have not gotten clarity on this. Yes, it's
nice that that that that that the media cult has
been mocked by all this because they really held Fauci
up as really some kind of a science and health god,
which was it was embarrassing the whole thing. But you know, Clay,

(27:34):
I saw through. I'm sure you did too. It's like, well,
this is a long time ago. But Gretchen, uh what's
her face? Whitmer No, no, no, no, no, sorry, Well
who is the little uh, the little climate change teenager?
Now she's an adult, so we can you know, I'm
not bashing on a kid, ye, Greta, sorry, Greta, not Gretchen,

(27:56):
Greta Thunberg. Adults should have all just been embarrassed by
the whole thing. And I remember like a little little uh,
you know, Weasley, Jake Tapper sitting there. You know, Oh,
tell us about interviews with her at CNN. Tell us
about how that's so important that you're fighting climate change.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
She's a sixteen year old girl. She doesn't know anything.
What are you doing? She knows nothing. The whole thing
was absurd.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
Fauci hadn't actually practiced medicine in any meaningful context like ever.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Basically, by the way, the Gretta Thunberg angle too, was
her age was both sword and shield. Because if you
said she's sixteen years old, what does she know? They
would say, well, why do you have to attack it?
Why do you have to attack a young person? Well,
because you're putting her out there as an expert, and

(28:45):
and now she's kind of vanished, you know, didn't she
got attacked?

Speaker 6 (28:47):
Yeah, I'll never forget this. I got attacked by I
forget her name because she's gone now. I think she
was the one one of the ones who like sued
Fox for not promoting her, not for other stuff, but
has she attacked me on the couch of Outnumbered because
I was like, this Greta thing. Adults shouldn't believe this, This
is absurd, and I really try to She's like, no
child bashing.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
It's like child first.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
Of all, not child bashing second. But you know, anyway,
she's no longer, no longer with the channel. But there
was a real knee jerk impulse around people. They thought
that they were being protective of kids by standing up
for Greta. It's like she's a sixteen year old woman
who's I'm a girl who's telling the whole world that
we should change all of our habits because she knows

(29:27):
so much about climate shan. I mean, the whole thing
was this was You'd have to be a moron or
a religious like this was a religious cult center or
a cult.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
You'd have to be a cult believer to think that
Greta Thunberg, same Clay.

Speaker 6 (29:40):
It was the same playbook with Fauci, same playbook all along.
By the way, I love Aaron Rodgers. I've heard he's
kind of a surly fellow, but I love him anyways.

Speaker 9 (29:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
I mean, look, I think if you're the kind of
guy who wants to take aim at the entire NFL,
you have to be a little bit of a curmudgeon.
I think it would be fair to say his teammates
love him, and he obviously is an incredible talent. But
I do think, first of all, I'm gonna say it,

(30:09):
I think ESPN deserves credit for letting him tee off
like this, because I do think the culture of ESPN
is starting to change. Doesn't mean that they're going to
be perfect, but they've recognized that some of their leadership
has they have new leaders moving in that they alienated
huge portions of the American sporting public by going far
to the much to the left. But I think what's

(30:33):
always instructive about this is the Pittsburgh Steeler fans there
cheering in the background as he tees off on Fauci
and makes jokes about it. I think the worm has
turned in a significant way, and I do think Novak Djokovic,
I think that Kyrie Irving, I think that Aaron Rodgers,
the people who stood up and were willing to risk
hundreds of millions of dollars, were willing to risk their

(30:55):
ability to make a living. They deserve credit now that
they've been even correct. I mean, I don't even know
when's the last time you even heard an update on
the COVID boosters. I don't even know what number they
stopped at, but it was if you had truly listened
to the experts, and you had kept getting your COVID
booster shots. I think you're on eighteen or nineteen now.

(31:18):
I mean you basically are a pincushion. And look, when
the first COVID shot came out, I'm not blaming anybody
who went and got it, but at eight or nine,
I mean, they changed the meaning of the word vaccine.
Never before had I heard of a vaccine that didn't
keep you from getting the thing that you got the
shot for. I mean, the whole purpose of the word
vaccine was super And then they were like, no, no, no,

(31:40):
vaccine has never meant that you don't get it. It
just means that it limits the severity of it. Then
Alex Barns had came on with us and said, hey,
everybody who's dying, by and large, most of them are boosted,
triple boosted, quadruple boosted. And you saw Fauci and his diary,
even after all the shots he was getting, that he
was afraid to go to a public restaurant in November
twenty twenty one because he was afraid he was gonna

(32:02):
get COVID again. Even after all the COVID shots he'd
been getting.

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Speaker 1 (33:06):
Or wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
Closing up shop on Clay and Buck want to remind
you the YouTube of Clay and Buck, which you can
stream live during our show, which is a lot of fun.
And tell your kids, your grandkids, if they're into the
YouTube stuff, that they can watch us there. But also
the Aaron Wexler interview, which we tried to stream yesterday
but it turned out to be more of a recorded interview,
which you can watch now on YouTube, and it was great.

(33:29):
We covered a lot of things, athletes sliding into her dms.
She's a rapidly rising comedy star and conservative commentator, and
we asked her whole range of questions.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
Clay, you asked a bunch of dating quests.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
A million Instagram followers now, yes, that's how much her
comedy specials and comedy clips have exploded.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
I was blown away.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
I went to go look when we were doing the interview,
I was trying to remember the clips that I've seen
that have gone megaviral. But yeah, there are a bunch
of things that were a lot of fun with her.
By the way, huge audience now coming in on a
daily basis for the live show. Yesterday, twenty one thousand
of you stream the show again. We're just getting started,
but I would this is an early prediction. I would

(34:14):
bet that as we get rolling into the twenty twenty seven,
you know, the cycle of who's going to be the
nominees and everything else, we're going to start to have.
This is a prediction. One hundred thousand people a day
coming in sometimes and hanging out on the video version
of the show, in addition to the millions of you
that are listening everywhere else. We just want to be

(34:35):
all places for all people. And you can find us
there now and a lot of people are subscribing and
it's pretty great.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
A R Y n n E.

Speaker 6 (34:44):
By the way, unusual spelling of her name. She maybe
promised that I because she wants you to follow her
on Facebook, Aaron Wexler and look for her comedy clips there.
She's very very funny. Clay, are you speaking of funny?
You're joining our friend Jesse Kelly. Yeah, shortly right.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, I'm going to be on his show this evening.
We're gonna be doing an event with him and then Buck.
This is gonna be an all time er I'm doing.
You're trying to steal your Ball's idea, Yeah, I know,
I know. We're gonna have shirts by tomorrow for the
Nashville Balls. The greatest w NBA team of all time,
so you will be able to buy them. A bunch
of people want Nashville Balls championship merch.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
I don't blame you.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
That will be up very soon and we're gonna have
some fun with that on my Sports FS one show,
which you can see on cable. But I would imagine
that Jesse will have quite a few interesting thoughts about
the w NBA battle that is out there right now.
We'll have some fun with that, and we'll have some
fun tomorrow as well.

Speaker 6 (35:40):
I appreciate that he told us that he, while extremely tall,
is not extremely good at basketball, nor was he back
in the day. He's an honest man, that Jesse Kelly.
You could say that for him. Very tall and self
deprecating when it's Baltimore. But he said he would be
the center on our right wing need versus w NBA team.

(36:01):
He'll be our big man in the paint. You and
I will be kind of like a shooting guard, you know,
small forward territory. We got heg Seth Secretary of war.
Heag Seth running a point guard, Bongino the enforcer as
a power forward. Obviously, Shapiro calling the calling the plays,
and I know we got a bunch of people in
the mix here, mate, Matt, Matt Walsh will get in there.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
I'm sure he's got a nice three pointer.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Jesse against Britney Griner would be a battle for the ages.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
That would be a mussy. I'll talk about it with him. There.

Speaker 6 (36:34):
You go, let us know how that goes and we'll
see you all tomorrow. Stick around for well, come back
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