November 13, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives into breaking news, cultural commentary, and audience-driven debate, beginning with reports of a violent incident involving Alina Habba, a U.S. attorney in New Jersey, whose office was attacked by a bat-wielding suspect. The hosts highlight the growing concern over left-wing violence and express relief that Habba is unharmed. They also cover Senator John Fetterman’s hospitalization following a fall caused by a ventricular fibrillation episode, noting his humorous response and drawing parallels to historical political wit.
The hour transitions into a critique of Michelle Obama’s recent comments on race and beauty, with Clay and Buck arguing that identity politics are eroding public discourse. They dissect her career trajectory, including her high-paying diversity role at the University of Chicago Medical Center, and question the merit of such positions. This leads into a broader discussion about the Democratic Party’s push for government-run grocery stores, citing examples from Seattle and New York City. The hosts mock the idea as reminiscent of failed socialist models like Cuba, and reference studies—including one from The New York Times—showing that increased access to healthy food does not necessarily change consumer behavior in low-income communities.
Clay and Buck argue that food deserts are often misrepresented and that consumer choice, not corporate abandonment, drives product availability. They emphasize the inefficiency of government-run enterprises, citing failed experiments in cities like Kansas City, and warn against policies that ignore market realities. The conversation includes a call from a listener in Rochester, New York, who explains that theft and crime—not lack of demand—are driving grocery stores out of urban areas. The hosts agree, noting that store closures also eliminate local jobs and further destabilize communities.
The discussion then returns to the H-1B visa debate, with callers offering contrasting views. One former tech executive from Boston defends the program, citing a lack of qualified American engineers and mathematicians due to declining educational standards. Another caller from Las Vegas refutes that claim, arguing that American programmers are just as capable and that corporate decisions are driven by cost-cutting and outsourcing. The hosts highlight the need for more American students to pursue hard sciences and technical fields, criticizing the shift toward less rigorous academic disciplines.
As the hour wraps up, Clay and Buck reflect on the challenges of booking Democrat politicians on the show, noting that many rely on scripted talking points and avoid substantive debate. They joke about a hypothetical interview with Senator Chuck Schumer, predicting it would be unproductive. The show closes with light-hearted banter about dining apps, social credit scores for restaurant reservations, and a preview of Friday’s topics, including a continued focus on immigration, affordability, and political accountability.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show our number three,
A lot of you weighing in eight hundred and two
A two two eight eight two.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
President Trump set to speak soon on affordability related issues.
We have got a couple of different breaking news stories
that I wanted to hit you guys with first of all,
and it seems like this is kind of a significant story.
Alena Haba, who is the state attorney I believe for
(00:31):
New Jersey U S Attorney for New Jersey I believe
is their official title. According to Mary Margaret Olahan, who
we have had on the program quite a bit, she
is a Daily Wire reporter, there was a attack at
the US Attorney's office and a suspect entered the building
(00:54):
with a baseball bat around five pm yesterday, proceeded to
Elena A. Habba's office. But Pam Bondi says, this is
in the last last hour or so these details coming
out Attorney General last night. An individual attempted to confront
one of our US attorneys Habba, destroyed property in her
(01:16):
office and fled the scene. Thankfully Alena is okay. So again,
left wing violence is certainly an issue, and we're glad
that Alena Habba is okay, but somebody showing up with
a bat and attacking the office is something obviously very
very serious. Other news, John Fetterman's office put out this statement.
(01:42):
During an early morning walk, Senator Fetterman sustained a fall
near his home in Braddock, Pennsylvania. Out of an abundance
of caution, he was transported to a hospital in Pittsburgh.
Upon evaluation, it was established he had a ventricular fibrillation
flara that led to him feeling light headed, falling to
(02:03):
the ground, hitting his face with minor entered injuries. He
is still hospitalized. This is a funny quote. Senator Fetterman
had this to say, if you thought my face looked
bad before, wait until you see it now. So that
is John Fetterman. He's doing well, receiving routine hospital observations,
(02:25):
and they are adjusting potentially his defibrillator in the way
that I would imagine that that works inside of his body.
Reminds me Buck that quote, if you thought my face
to look bad before, wait until you see it now,
one of the all time great rejoinders from Abraham Lincoln.
(02:48):
Do you remember this quote? He was accused of being
two faced, and his response was, do you think if
I had two faces, I would wear this one? Which,
again I'm paraphrasing, but a pretty witty comeback that reminded
me of what John Fetterman was saying there. Now, remember
how we talked buck about Michelle Obama. Every time she speaks,
(03:10):
making herself less likely, she less like a bull. She
is continuing to speak and drive down her overall likability
every single time that she speaks. So I thought we
could have fun with this and play this cut. Michelle
Obama said, I've got a couple of cuts that are crazy.
But Michelle Obama said, Black female beauty is so powerful
(03:35):
we are owed respect. Cut one.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
We have to start educating people about all kinds of beauty. Yes,
and our beauty is so powerful and so unique that
it is that it is worthy of a conversation, and
it's worthy of demanding the respect that we're old for
who we are and what we offered to the world.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Whatever I mean. First of all, every man on the planet,
trust me on this is aware of beauty. There's nobody
out there was like, hey, you know, I didn't know
this woman was attractive. But this is the toxic nature
of identity politics where she's arguing basically because of my
race that we that we have to be respected. And
(04:23):
I just you read her PhD or whatever the thesis
that she wrote.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Oh no, no, no, undergraduate Princeton thesis. Okay, no, no PhD.
She went to law school, right, she went to Harvard
for law school. That's where she met Barack Obama.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Right. I know she was an attorney and he was
an associate and they met at the firm, but he
was older when he went back to law school, I
think is the story.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
She at one point had a job at a public
hospital in the state of Chicago, I'm sorry, in state
of Illinois, when her husband was a state legislator. I
think she was a diversity educator at the hospital, making
three hundred something thousand dollars a year. And this was
over twenty years ago, so make like half a milli
year in today's dollars to be a diversity educator.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So at the University of Chicago, if I remember correctly,
I think you are hitting that exactly right. But yeah,
basically a half a million dollars in today's dollars to
essentially have a job that is a cake walk you
don't have to hardly do anything. Uh uh. And that
is the reality. So all of this is, all of
(05:29):
this is bonkers. Also, I pulled this clip because I
saw this circulating. Democrats have decided buck that their go
to talking point for this past campaign season and maybe
it's going to extend in the next campaign season, is
that we need more grocery stores provided by the government.
(05:52):
We know that this was a big part of mom
Donnie's pitch in New York City, but this is Katie Wilson,
who ended up winning the mayor's race in Seattle. I
don't know if you've heard this. This was a flashback
to her campaign, but it is now circulating. She says
that they can't allow grocery stores to shut down in
Seattle and that if it does happen, then the government
(06:15):
needs to step in and be the grocery store.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Can I just just to clarify to the point of clarity, Yeah,
Michelle Obama worked at the University of Chicago Medical Center,
so you're right it was a hospital, but you know
it was the U Chicago Hospital and she was executive
director for Community Affairs, Diversity educatort. What she was working
on a lot of diversity and recruitment is what I'm
reading here. Guess what she was a diversity educator making
(06:40):
a half million year basically, so nice, nice job.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Of you got a bad gig relatively low stress here
is that Seattle New mayor basically echoing the same arguments
that were made on the other side of the country
coast to coast. What we really need is more government
grocery stores. Just like Cuba, access.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
To affordable, healthy food is a basic rite. We cannot
allow giant grocery chains to stomp all over our communities
closed stores that will and leave behind food deserts. Together,
we can build a Seattle where fresh food is for everyone,
not just for those who can afford it. Food doeserts
are not natural. Corporations create them when they have band
in our communities. As mayor, I'm excited to step up
(07:22):
and with UFCW explore public option grocery stores to fill
those gas.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I thought this was funny, Buck because it directly connects
with the conversation we had during the Snap debate, which
is the argument that she is making about food deserts
and availability of food has been tested and it is
just not true. There is no lack of available food
products that people in different communities want to buy. And
(07:51):
so this was a talking point probably what twenty ten ish,
and now it's just coming back, even though it's been
soundly refuted. And I do think the fact that government
owned grocery stores again like Cuba, is being argued in
favor of in both Seattle and New York City is
(08:11):
interesting about the dearth of real ideas motivating the Democrat
Party right now.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
They've done this before, as I've said this, here you go.
I was pulling this up giving the poor. This is
from the New York Times. Everyone giving the poor easy
access to healthy food doesn't mean they'll buy it. What
a shock there. And I'll read you a little bit
from this. This is twenty fifteen Class a decade ago.
(08:38):
In twenty ten, the Bronx, this Bronx section is what
is called the food desert. This Bronx community was a
food desert, low income neighborhood in New York's least healthy county,
no nearby grocery store, few places where residents could easily
buy fresh food, the target of a city tax incentive
program to bring healthy food into underserved neighborhoods. A seventeen
(09:02):
thousand square foot supermarket opened aided by city money, paying
for forty percent of the cost. Neighborhood welcomed the addition,
but the diets of the neighborhoods residents did not. They
don't want to buy what coastal elites want them to buy.
We can go over this. This is the New York Times.
(09:24):
Study after study, we can Does this really shock anyone?
This is kind of funny, isn't it. You sit there,
you go in under or in low income communities, in
low income communities, if people have the choice, generally speaking
talking about broad buying habits, you don't have to call
me and say, I have a friend who's low income
and he's running six triathlons. Yeah, okay, I get it.
(09:46):
Generally speaking, in low income communities, when people have the
opportunity to buy chips, soda, candy, you know, frozen food
that they can you know, frozen pizza, whatever, or they
can buy rugal loo, free range, lean, you know, chicken
breasts or whatever. Which one are they going to do?
(10:06):
There's a reason why they sell the food they sell
in low income communities, because that's what people in those
communities by. Even when you subsidize so called it or
not so called it is even when you subsidize healthier food.
And so what are you gonna do about this? You know,
you either let people make their own choices and eat
garbage basically not actual garbage, but you know what I mean,
(10:27):
eat stuff that's bad for you, or you let people,
you know, you tell them that this is all Remember Clay,
they're worried about food deserts, but the SNAP program has
to cover chips and soda.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Well, which is it? Yes? And the government run grocery stores.
I just I One of the biggest challenges of capitalism
is young people who have all of the benefits of
living in a capitalistic society decide that capital doesn't work
(11:01):
and it's all one big circle. I feel like we've
seen this with policing, where people say, oh, you know what,
being concerned that you have too many violent predators behind
bars is a luxury of a low crime environment. And
so you have a low crime environment and people start saying, hey,
you know what, we need fewer cops, and we need
(11:22):
fewer people in prisons, and we need more lenient treatment
of bad guys. And then there's more bad guys on
the street. What happens the overall violent crime rate skyrockets.
And it would be nice if we could just have
public policy that acknowledges what works and what doesn't. And
how about we don't try the things that we know
don't work, government funded grocery stores. I just the profit
(11:48):
margin on grocery stores buck is one or two percent.
It's one of the hardest businesses to run.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
What would really be the test and this would just
would go to Mamdaniism and everything as well. We should
run an express go to one of these supposed Remember
it's a food desert. It's also an area where we're
gonna be told people are oppressed, and there's all the suppression.
It's a low income community, and I'm sure there's systemic
racism involved and all this other stuff go into that community.
(12:14):
Claim set up at just an Just let let the
grocery store that's there, or let the place where people
get their food. A lot of times it's more like
a in New York I'm speaking about now, it's more
like a convenience store. People will go in and they'll
have food there, but they don't have the big aisles
like they will in a in a giant, or a
food town or a you know whatever, a NP. I
don't even if that exists anymore, do they in peace
(12:35):
will exist the grocery store.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
We got Publics, we got Pigley, Wigglely, we got Kroger
or PUBLICX.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I should have said, like I just lost my Florida
card for a week. I should have said publics right away.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Anyway, they don't have something like that necessarily, but you could, honestly,
I think offer in the in these same communities, you
could offer, not just reduce. You could say, Okay, you
can either buy the stuff that we deem in healthy
or or we'll give you We'll give you the health
fee food free. And I think that people would be
shocked to see what the actual result of that experiment is.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I think that would be super intrigued.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
People want to eat what they want to eat, bottom line,
and we'll come back.
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Speaker 4 (14:38):
Welcome back in here too, Play and Buck. You know
we important thought that we just had also about the
food situation there and the idea of government run grocery stores.
There's a lot of lobbying that goes on by Big
Agra and the big food companies to make sure that
the things that the liberal elites who run these cities
(15:00):
don't want the low income communities to be ingesting in
those quantities are covered by things like food stamps aka SNAP.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
Right.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Obviously, they renamed it because food stamps after a while
had picked up something of a negative connotation. It was
food welfare, and so they call it SNAP now. But
it's the same basic, same basic premise, or it is
the same premise. And I think that that's one aspect
of this is that there's a big incentive clay to
make people or to encourage people to eat this stuff
(15:33):
and for it to be subsidized by the government. And
beyond that, I just think what experience with a government
entity makes you think that you want the government in
charge of stocking and getting the best quality for the dollar.
This is actually a really fun question. We'll take it
(15:53):
off about how bad the food was in my private
high school.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
It was a scholarship school. It was prison food.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
My high school should be ashamed at the food that
they were making us eat, and that wasn't even the government, Like,
I can't imagine what it's like in an actual prison
or a state facility.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Look the efficiency required to be a profitable grocery store,
to say nothing of the competition that must occur for
cleanliness and lack of spoilage and all of those things.
Kansas City tried this. Remember the story that was out
there about Kansas City. They said, hey, we need to
have government run grocery stores. They couldn't get produced there
(16:33):
in a healthy way, right. It was spoiling. Nobody wanted
to shop there. The shelves were mostly empty. It was
an unmitigated disaster. Which buck, if you told me, what
do you expect a government run grocery store to look like?
It is what happened in Kansas City. It's what I
would have predicted. And I wish we had trips like
(16:55):
field trips so kids could go to Cuba and actually
see what the full fruition of a government system that
they're supporting now in New York City is like, so
that you could understand what it's like to not have
air conditioning. Wi Fi never works, government own grocery stores
or everybody stands in line for hours to be able
to get a bar of soap, Like this is crazy.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Civilization is based upon individual incentive. Yes, there's always the
group the community that you need, but you need people
to have their own individual reasons for doing what they're doing,
or they're not going to do it. This is why
places like the Soviet Union collapse into it totalitarian nightmare
(17:39):
because there is no incentive for the individuals, and so
the only way they make you do what that you're
supposed to do is with a gun in the back
of your Head's just brute force. If you want to
have a society that functions efficiently and well, people have
to benefit. Clay, I want a grocery store where the
manager's making six figures. I want a grocery store where
the people in charge take in what they do, like
(18:01):
you know, it's very straightforward to me, you know, where
they take a lot of pride oft what they do.
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you have been seeing that I am now in a
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There is bright lights, there is better graphics, and so
you can check it out for yourself to see how
things look there. Buck, I was last night on with
(19:40):
our friend Sean Hannity as the President was preparing to
sign the bill to open the government back up. Yes,
just I think it's very big of Sean to have
you on a show while you still owe him some
cold hard cash.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
And you know, Sean's a very nice guy. He's letting
you get on a show even though there's an outstanding
dead here.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It is true. I mean, I can honestly say I
don't think I've ever been on any one show that
I owed money to before. And Hannity has not broken
any legs. He hasn't loan sharked me out. I haven't had,
you know, anybody knocking on the door looking to collect.
Unfortunately for me, I don't carry around that much cash,
so it's just just been a thing. Like I saw
(20:21):
Sean last week at Patriot Awards told him I said, hey, man, sorry,
I'm weren't a tux. I forgot to bring cash, and
God forbid I had any change.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
We're lucky, Hannity's a gentleman.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Is I'm saying? We got a lot of emails from
people out there that love pocket change, which we can
have some fun with before the show is over. But
they had to cover fill time, and so they had
our friend Peter Deucey was on from the White House
lawn and Sean was just asked him, Hey, how much
(20:54):
different is it for the media that cover the president
now where basically you can ask questions all the time
compared to Joe Biden where he might show up once
a week and kind of mumble through things. And how
do the media talk about that? I thought it was
a good question. Here's an interesting answer where Deucey's like, man,
(21:14):
I got to scramble to even find new questions to
ask the president because he answers so many of them.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
Listen, it's totally backwards covering Joe Biden for four years
and covering this president for almost a year now. In
that the Biden administration, at most you would see him
once a week and you had like one sentence worth
of a shouted question. You could hope for a one
word answer at best, and then I would have to
make that last meet a week or more, whether on
(21:41):
the campaign trail or here at the White House, whereas
with this president, there's typically only one day a week
that you don't see him, and you go in there
with two pages of questions, and he'll be rattling off answers,
and other people might ask your questions and it's like,
I don't think I have enough. You open up your phone,
you go to daily Mail. It's like, what else is
happening today that I can ask the president about right now?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I just thought that was really funny that Trump is
answering so many questions about so many different topics that
sometimes if you're in the Oval office and preparing yourself
to be asking him questions, he runs through the entire
roster of questions. So you're going on dailymail dot com
to check and see what the latest news is. Maybe
(22:23):
OutKick dot com. Okay, a bunch of people went away
in Buck. We got loaded lines all over the country.
Let's uh, let's go to Dave and Rochester, New York.
We'll start with you, Dave fire Away.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Hey, guys, love your show, So I think I think
you're missing the mark on the grocery store food desert.
What's happened. There's so much theft actually that stores have
to lock product up. I've live in Rochester, New York,
and there's uh, you know, Wegman's chain here in Rochester,
and they moved out of the city entirely with the
exception one store due to theft. Yeah, and we've got
(22:57):
two walmarts in Rochester that basically have two law enforcement
cars outside and shot spotters in the parking lot. So
it's not that, you know, they don't want to buy stuff,
it's that there's so much stuff there's no profit to
run a grocery store.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Well, thank you. It's it's a combination of multiple factors.
But what we were talking about in particular was the
products that are sold in the grocery store. Even when
they are discounting quote unquote healthy foods, the people who
buy product still want to buy the unhealthy food. In
other words, it's not an absence.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
And people aren't swiping all the shark cootery. I can
assure you that that's not what's happening.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
And also we've talked about this quite a lot because
the worst thing about a store shutting down in the
neighborhood is not only the lack of access to the store,
oftentimes because of theft, it takes all those jobs out
of the community. So you have to get on a
bus or you have to get on public transit and
go a decent distance to have a job.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Look, you can see you can take a drive through
any neighborhood really in America, and you know, based on
the businesses and kind of how the businesses look, you know,
what the vibe is around the business, what kind of
a neighborhood you're in. If you're in a neighborhood where
the businesses have bars on the doors, bars on the windows,
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even for like a seven to eleven setup, it looks
like there's a bank teller behind, you know, bulletproof glass,
you're in bad shape. If there's a lot of check
cashing places, If there's a lot of liquor stores, especially
kind of depressing looking liquor stores, you're in bad shape.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Right.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
We talk about what happened at some of these pharmacies
when there were the BLM riots that would burn down
these pharmacies. Play some of those places like a wall,
you know, Walgreens. People actually get their food there that
get groceries that they'll go there to get YLK, they'll
go there to get So when those close down, it's
not just oh I have to go further from my
prescription or whatever. It's also adding to the lack of
(24:58):
good food options. Look, I spent about a year and
a half of the NYPD, and we would do were
we would do steakouts. I mean, I know that sounds
like I was. I would do steakouts to be an
unmarked car. I'd be with the detective and in some
very very sketchy neighborhoods and you know people, uh, you'd
(25:19):
see like what they're buying and where they go, what
the stories look like. You can tell in a lot
of these stores what the average income of the people
living in the neighborhood is just by what by the
grab and go right by the register. I'm telling you know,
if you're in a fancy uh, if you're in a
fancy ish or even a middle class neighborhood, it's going
to be like, you know, nice chocolate bars and things
(25:41):
like that. If you're in a rough neighborhood, it's gonna
be off brand chips, it's gonna be off brand whatever.
And you know, you see these things playing out, and
people pick up on these signals in their own community,
and and it's and it's a shame because you should
have pride in the businesses in your community. To your point,
also in employers in your community, which makes it a
(26:03):
place that people feel more invested in as well.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
No doubt. Joe in Naples, Florida, Joe, what you got for.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Us, gentlemen? I want to weigh in on the H
one bs. For mid seventies through two thousand and eight,
I ran a technology company in the Boston area. I
was competing with half a dozen major computer companies, a
lot of tech I had to use H one b's
(26:31):
because the American schools were not turning out the quality
of engineer and mathematicians I needed. I used a couple
of Germans, an Englishman, and a Japanese among others. I
put the issue down to in the fifties and sixties,
we had the big Eisenhower Science and Technology initiative in schools,
(26:56):
and that faded out by the mid seventies. I used them.
I wound up having to pay as much, if not more,
to get qualified engineers, data scientists, and math people.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
And so you couldn't find in your experience in Boston,
you couldn't find Americans with This was not a dollars
decision for you. Necessarily, you couldn't find American born workers
with the skill set you needed to have an effective company.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I would go down to MIT. I'm an alum of MIT.
I would go down there every interview opportunity, and I
might be able to get one engineer, one applied math guy.
Because I was competing against IBM, Deck, Data, General Wang,
a whole bunch of other big boys. They could we get.
We we got MIT, Northeastern BU. The fight for the
(27:52):
fight for qualified folks started very heavy in the late
seventies early eighties. For five years of the business, I
could sort of find what I needed. But when the
colleges started dumbing down grades and the government initiative on
the space race and technology started going down, putting down,
(28:16):
just could not get the quality of engineer.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Thank you for the call. And this is what I
would say, Buck is somewhat of a clarion call for
needing to graduate more American born students with skills in
the so called hard sciences as opposed to the social sciences,
which tend to be easier and aren't as challenging. Jeff
in Las Vegas, you got to take for us. Thanks
(28:41):
for calling.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Work for thirty years. And when I started out, all
the recruiters, all the recruiters were Americans, and as a
contract programmer, my life depends on recruiters. Now the majority
are Indians. And not only that, I would say about
ten or twenty percent are calling from India. And I'd
like to refute the first the guy that just was on,
(29:07):
I've been a VP, if the director, and I've hired programmers,
I've hired Indian programmers, and I've hired American programmers, and
American programmers are just as good, if not better.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
When I was.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
At American Mutual Funds, American Mutual Funds is in Irvine, California,
which is a big Indian community. Now there were floors
and floors of Indians, but senior management, senior management were
all Americans getting bonuses. One last thing, you know, just
(29:42):
to show you how dumb American companies can be. I
worked for Boeing for a while and when I was there,
when they made a contract, and when they made a
deal with China, and the deal was that China would
buy several hundred seven forty sevens if Boeing would agree
to turn over all the engineering documents on the technologies
that go into building seven forty seven. Guess what Boeing
(30:05):
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Speaker 7 (30:30):
They're all full of crack.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Hey, well, thank you for the call. A lot of
good comments there. They won't come on, and I think
there's now a rule where we aren't allowed. I know
this was an old school radio thing. You could just
call people and try to get them online without get
them on air, without saying who you are, and you
would get them talking and then they find out, hey,
we're talking to tons of people all over the city
(30:53):
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and there are a.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Couple a couple of things on this. One is we
would never get beat even forget about that rule, which
I think you're you're right on that, but i'd have
to look into it. We wouldn't get around their staff.
They don't Chuck Schuter. There's no there's no like bat
phone to Chuck Schumer. Well, at least we don't have it.
We don't have that line where we could call in.
So we're not going to get around his staff. And
(31:21):
I honestly think a lot of the time there's a
limited value with some of these Democrats. They're just gonna say,
you know, Chuck Schumer would say, it's about affordability, it's
about healthcare. Donald Trump is wrecking the Republic. You've already
you've already heard it all. And that's why I don't
really you know, we can pick and choose. Like Fetterman
would be interesting because there's some areas where you could
(31:44):
actually get to a place of some agreement, a little disagreement.
There's a give and take. With your run of the
mill democrat on a radio show, I mean, a Democrat
politician on a radio show, they're just gonna say what
they always say. I mean what they're saying on CNN,
they're going to stay right on the talking point. So
I just don't think it's very likely to be instructive
or very good radio.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Personally.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
If that wasn't the case, I think we would push
more to get Democrats on Plus play will yell at
them like he did Mike Pence and then everyone will cry.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Would be I would be very happy to get these
guys on. They won't come on. I think it's because
they just know that they don't have anything beyond talking points.
And talking points in a three minute television hit might
work in a fifteen minute radio it actually expects me.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
I can give you a preview of our conversation with Chuck,
our imaginary conversations with Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I'd say, Senator Schumer, so.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Have premiums for the average American on the individual market
gone up on average one hundred percent or more over
the last ten years? And you know his response would be,
Donald Trump doesn't care about the working class and doesn't
care about Middle America, and we want to make sure
your premiums are cheap. And I could repeat my question,
I could say it again, but sure, is it true?
(32:57):
You know what he would say Donald Trump doesn't care
out the middle class. He's you know, blah blah. This
is this is why you don't really get very far
with these people. So especially shoot, he wouldn't even be fun.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
He's actually really boring and not a great communicator, which
is not ideal. We'll come back and we got some
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you know. I mean, we're in that phase.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
You don't get to go out to dinner as often
as you used to.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
New we have to get a babysitter because also the
dog and my baby have they have a deal going
where the dog now goes close to the high chair
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food ends up on the ground, and so she's the
cleanup crew. So I can't I can't stop this right
because I'm like, well, it's kind of efficient, but that's
what's going on. But Open Table Clay the app that
(35:56):
everyone uses for reservations, Open tables collecting more than just
where you're like to eat on people. And I want
to get into this. I actually I'll tell you this everybody.
I think if you're a repeat canceler on restaurants for reservations,
I think that should be taken into account. I think
we should have something of a dining out social credit score.
I know some of you are gonna get so ticked off,
(36:18):
but I'm into it. So we can talk about this tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
We'll have some fun with that. We'll have some fun
with the Friday edition of the program. Overall, great calls
from you guys on the complicated issue of H one
b VSA's wide variety of perspectives and i AP preceded
hearing from so many of you. We'll have some fun
on the Friday edition of the program. Seemed like Bill
(36:41):
O'Reilly was a little bit nervous about that steak bet Buck. Maybe,
just possibly he actually recognizes that we're gonna end up right,
and Gavin Newsom is gonna.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Be I'm already researching the best steakhouses in Long Island
to meet up with Uncle Bill.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
So we'll see
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show our number three,
A lot of you weighing in eight hundred and two
A two two eight eight two.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
President Trump set to speak soon on affordability related issues.
We have got a couple of different breaking news stories
that I wanted to hit you guys with first of all,
and it seems like this is kind of a significant story.
Alena Haba, who is the state attorney I believe for
(00:31):
New Jersey U S Attorney for New Jersey I believe
is their official title. According to Mary Margaret Olahan, who
we have had on the program quite a bit, she
is a Daily Wire reporter, there was a attack at
the US Attorney's office and a suspect entered the building
(00:54):
with a baseball bat around five pm yesterday, proceeded to
Elena A. Habba's office. But Pam Bondi says, this is
in the last last hour or so these details coming
out Attorney General last night. An individual attempted to confront
one of our US attorneys Habba, destroyed property in her
(01:16):
office and fled the scene. Thankfully Alena is okay. So again,
left wing violence is certainly an issue, and we're glad
that Alena Habba is okay, but somebody showing up with
a bat and attacking the office is something obviously very
very serious. Other news, John Fetterman's office put out this statement.
(01:42):
During an early morning walk, Senator Fetterman sustained a fall
near his home in Braddock, Pennsylvania. Out of an abundance
of caution, he was transported to a hospital in Pittsburgh.
Upon evaluation, it was established he had a ventricular fibrillation
flara that led to him feeling light headed, falling to
(02:03):
the ground, hitting his face with minor entered injuries. He
is still hospitalized. This is a funny quote. Senator Fetterman
had this to say, if you thought my face looked
bad before, wait until you see it now. So that
is John Fetterman. He's doing well, receiving routine hospital observations,
(02:25):
and they are adjusting potentially his defibrillator in the way
that I would imagine that that works inside of his body.
Reminds me Buck that quote, if you thought my face
to look bad before, wait until you see it now,
one of the all time great rejoinders from Abraham Lincoln.
(02:48):
Do you remember this quote? He was accused of being
two faced, and his response was, do you think if
I had two faces, I would wear this one? Which,
again I'm paraphrasing, but a pretty witty comeback that reminded
me of what John Fetterman was saying there. Now, remember
how we talked buck about Michelle Obama. Every time she speaks,
(03:10):
making herself less likely, she less like a bull. She
is continuing to speak and drive down her overall likability
every single time that she speaks. So I thought we
could have fun with this and play this cut. Michelle
Obama said, I've got a couple of cuts that are crazy.
But Michelle Obama said, Black female beauty is so powerful
(03:35):
we are owed respect. Cut one.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
We have to start educating people about all kinds of beauty. Yes,
and our beauty is so powerful and so unique that
it is that it is worthy of a conversation, and
it's worthy of demanding the respect that we're old for
who we are and what we offered to the world.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Whatever I mean. First of all, every man on the planet,
trust me on this is aware of beauty. There's nobody
out there was like, hey, you know, I didn't know
this woman was attractive. But this is the toxic nature
of identity politics where she's arguing basically because of my
race that we that we have to be respected. And
(04:23):
I just you read her PhD or whatever the thesis
that she wrote.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Oh no, no, no, undergraduate Princeton thesis. Okay, no, no PhD.
She went to law school, right, she went to Harvard
for law school. That's where she met Barack Obama.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Right. I know she was an attorney and he was
an associate and they met at the firm, but he
was older when he went back to law school, I
think is the story.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
She at one point had a job at a public
hospital in the state of Chicago, I'm sorry, in state
of Illinois, when her husband was a state legislator. I
think she was a diversity educator at the hospital, making
three hundred something thousand dollars a year. And this was
over twenty years ago, so make like half a milli
year in today's dollars to be a diversity educator.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So at the University of Chicago, if I remember correctly,
I think you are hitting that exactly right. But yeah,
basically a half a million dollars in today's dollars to
essentially have a job that is a cake walk you
don't have to hardly do anything. Uh uh. And that
is the reality. So all of this is, all of
(05:29):
this is bonkers. Also, I pulled this clip because I
saw this circulating. Democrats have decided buck that their go
to talking point for this past campaign season and maybe
it's going to extend in the next campaign season, is
that we need more grocery stores provided by the government.
(05:52):
We know that this was a big part of mom
Donnie's pitch in New York City, but this is Katie Wilson,
who ended up winning the mayor's race in Seattle. I
don't know if you've heard this. This was a flashback
to her campaign, but it is now circulating. She says
that they can't allow grocery stores to shut down in
Seattle and that if it does happen, then the government
(06:15):
needs to step in and be the grocery store.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Can I just just to clarify to the point of clarity, Yeah,
Michelle Obama worked at the University of Chicago Medical Center,
so you're right it was a hospital, but you know
it was the U Chicago Hospital and she was executive
director for Community Affairs, Diversity educatort. What she was working
on a lot of diversity and recruitment is what I'm
reading here. Guess what she was a diversity educator making
(06:40):
a half million year basically, so nice, nice job.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Of you got a bad gig relatively low stress here
is that Seattle New mayor basically echoing the same arguments
that were made on the other side of the country
coast to coast. What we really need is more government
grocery stores. Just like Cuba, access.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
To affordable, healthy food is a basic rite. We cannot
allow giant grocery chains to stomp all over our communities
closed stores that will and leave behind food deserts. Together,
we can build a Seattle where fresh food is for everyone,
not just for those who can afford it. Food doeserts
are not natural. Corporations create them when they have band
in our communities. As mayor, I'm excited to step up
(07:22):
and with UFCW explore public option grocery stores to fill
those gas.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I thought this was funny, Buck because it directly connects
with the conversation we had during the Snap debate, which
is the argument that she is making about food deserts
and availability of food has been tested and it is
just not true. There is no lack of available food
products that people in different communities want to buy. And
(07:51):
so this was a talking point probably what twenty ten ish,
and now it's just coming back, even though it's been
soundly refuted. And I do think the fact that government
owned grocery stores again like Cuba, is being argued in
favor of in both Seattle and New York City is
(08:11):
interesting about the dearth of real ideas motivating the Democrat
Party right now.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
They've done this before, as I've said this, here you go.
I was pulling this up giving the poor. This is
from the New York Times. Everyone giving the poor easy
access to healthy food doesn't mean they'll buy it. What
a shock there. And I'll read you a little bit
from this. This is twenty fifteen Class a decade ago.
(08:38):
In twenty ten, the Bronx, this Bronx section is what
is called the food desert. This Bronx community was a
food desert, low income neighborhood in New York's least healthy county,
no nearby grocery store, few places where residents could easily
buy fresh food, the target of a city tax incentive
program to bring healthy food into underserved neighborhoods. A seventeen
(09:02):
thousand square foot supermarket opened aided by city money, paying
for forty percent of the cost. Neighborhood welcomed the addition,
but the diets of the neighborhoods residents did not. They
don't want to buy what coastal elites want them to buy.
We can go over this. This is the New York Times.
(09:24):
Study after study, we can Does this really shock anyone?
This is kind of funny, isn't it. You sit there,
you go in under or in low income communities, in
low income communities, if people have the choice, generally speaking
talking about broad buying habits, you don't have to call
me and say, I have a friend who's low income
and he's running six triathlons. Yeah, okay, I get it.
(09:46):
Generally speaking, in low income communities, when people have the
opportunity to buy chips, soda, candy, you know, frozen food
that they can you know, frozen pizza, whatever, or they
can buy rugal loo, free range, lean, you know, chicken
breasts or whatever. Which one are they going to do?
(10:06):
There's a reason why they sell the food they sell
in low income communities, because that's what people in those
communities by. Even when you subsidize so called it or
not so called it is even when you subsidize healthier food.
And so what are you gonna do about this? You know,
you either let people make their own choices and eat
garbage basically not actual garbage, but you know what I mean,
(10:27):
eat stuff that's bad for you, or you let people,
you know, you tell them that this is all Remember Clay,
they're worried about food deserts, but the SNAP program has
to cover chips and soda.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Well, which is it? Yes? And the government run grocery stores.
I just I One of the biggest challenges of capitalism
is young people who have all of the benefits of
living in a capitalistic society decide that capital doesn't work
(11:01):
and it's all one big circle. I feel like we've
seen this with policing, where people say, oh, you know what,
being concerned that you have too many violent predators behind
bars is a luxury of a low crime environment. And
so you have a low crime environment and people start saying, hey,
you know what, we need fewer cops, and we need
(11:22):
fewer people in prisons, and we need more lenient treatment
of bad guys. And then there's more bad guys on
the street. What happens the overall violent crime rate skyrockets.
And it would be nice if we could just have
public policy that acknowledges what works and what doesn't. And
how about we don't try the things that we know
don't work, government funded grocery stores. I just the profit
(11:48):
margin on grocery stores buck is one or two percent.
It's one of the hardest businesses to run.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
What would really be the test and this would just
would go to Mamdaniism and everything as well. We should
run an express go to one of these supposed Remember
it's a food desert. It's also an area where we're
gonna be told people are oppressed, and there's all the suppression.
It's a low income community, and I'm sure there's systemic
racism involved and all this other stuff go into that community.
(12:14):
Claim set up at just an Just let let the
grocery store that's there, or let the place where people
get their food. A lot of times it's more like
a in New York I'm speaking about now, it's more
like a convenience store. People will go in and they'll
have food there, but they don't have the big aisles
like they will in a in a giant, or a
food town or a you know whatever, a NP. I
don't even if that exists anymore, do they in peace
(12:35):
will exist the grocery store.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
We got Publics, we got Pigley, Wigglely, we got Kroger
or PUBLICX.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I should have said, like I just lost my Florida
card for a week. I should have said publics right away.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Anyway, they don't have something like that necessarily, but you could, honestly,
I think offer in the in these same communities, you
could offer, not just reduce. You could say, Okay, you
can either buy the stuff that we deem in healthy
or or we'll give you We'll give you the health
fee food free. And I think that people would be
shocked to see what the actual result of that experiment is.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I think that would be super intrigued.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
People want to eat what they want to eat, bottom line,
and we'll come back.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
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Speaker 4 (14:38):
Welcome back in here too, Play and Buck. You know
we important thought that we just had also about the
food situation there and the idea of government run grocery stores.
There's a lot of lobbying that goes on by Big
Agra and the big food companies to make sure that
the things that the liberal elites who run these cities
(15:00):
don't want the low income communities to be ingesting in
those quantities are covered by things like food stamps aka SNAP.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
Right.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Obviously, they renamed it because food stamps after a while
had picked up something of a negative connotation. It was
food welfare, and so they call it SNAP now. But
it's the same basic, same basic premise, or it is
the same premise. And I think that that's one aspect
of this is that there's a big incentive clay to
make people or to encourage people to eat this stuff
(15:33):
and for it to be subsidized by the government. And
beyond that, I just think what experience with a government
entity makes you think that you want the government in
charge of stocking and getting the best quality for the dollar.
This is actually a really fun question. We'll take it
(15:53):
off about how bad the food was in my private
high school.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
It was a scholarship school. It was prison food.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
My high school should be ashamed at the food that
they were making us eat, and that wasn't even the government, Like,
I can't imagine what it's like in an actual prison
or a state facility.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Look the efficiency required to be a profitable grocery store,
to say nothing of the competition that must occur for
cleanliness and lack of spoilage and all of those things.
Kansas City tried this. Remember the story that was out
there about Kansas City. They said, hey, we need to
have government run grocery stores. They couldn't get produced there
(16:33):
in a healthy way, right. It was spoiling. Nobody wanted
to shop there. The shelves were mostly empty. It was
an unmitigated disaster. Which buck, if you told me, what
do you expect a government run grocery store to look like?
It is what happened in Kansas City. It's what I
would have predicted. And I wish we had trips like
(16:55):
field trips so kids could go to Cuba and actually
see what the full fruition of a government system that
they're supporting now in New York City is like, so
that you could understand what it's like to not have
air conditioning. Wi Fi never works, government own grocery stores
or everybody stands in line for hours to be able
to get a bar of soap, Like this is crazy.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Civilization is based upon individual incentive. Yes, there's always the
group the community that you need, but you need people
to have their own individual reasons for doing what they're doing,
or they're not going to do it. This is why
places like the Soviet Union collapse into it totalitarian nightmare
(17:39):
because there is no incentive for the individuals, and so
the only way they make you do what that you're
supposed to do is with a gun in the back
of your Head's just brute force. If you want to
have a society that functions efficiently and well, people have
to benefit. Clay, I want a grocery store where the
manager's making six figures. I want a grocery store where
the people in charge take in what they do, like
(18:01):
you know, it's very straightforward to me, you know, where
they take a lot of pride oft what they do.
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(19:40):
our friend Sean Hannity as the President was preparing to
sign the bill to open the government back up. Yes,
just I think it's very big of Sean to have
you on a show while you still owe him some
cold hard cash.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
And you know, Sean's a very nice guy. He's letting
you get on a show even though there's an outstanding
dead here.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It is true. I mean, I can honestly say I
don't think I've ever been on any one show that
I owed money to before. And Hannity has not broken
any legs. He hasn't loan sharked me out. I haven't had,
you know, anybody knocking on the door looking to collect.
Unfortunately for me, I don't carry around that much cash,
so it's just just been a thing. Like I saw
(20:21):
Sean last week at Patriot Awards told him I said, hey, man, sorry,
I'm weren't a tux. I forgot to bring cash, and
God forbid I had any change.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
We're lucky, Hannity's a gentleman.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Is I'm saying? We got a lot of emails from
people out there that love pocket change, which we can
have some fun with before the show is over. But
they had to cover fill time, and so they had
our friend Peter Deucey was on from the White House
lawn and Sean was just asked him, Hey, how much
(20:54):
different is it for the media that cover the president
now where basically you can ask questions all the time
compared to Joe Biden where he might show up once
a week and kind of mumble through things. And how
do the media talk about that? I thought it was
a good question. Here's an interesting answer where Deucey's like, man,
(21:14):
I got to scramble to even find new questions to
ask the president because he answers so many of them.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
Listen, it's totally backwards covering Joe Biden for four years
and covering this president for almost a year now. In
that the Biden administration, at most you would see him
once a week and you had like one sentence worth
of a shouted question. You could hope for a one
word answer at best, and then I would have to
make that last meet a week or more, whether on
(21:41):
the campaign trail or here at the White House, whereas
with this president, there's typically only one day a week
that you don't see him, and you go in there
with two pages of questions, and he'll be rattling off answers,
and other people might ask your questions and it's like,
I don't think I have enough. You open up your phone,
you go to daily Mail. It's like, what else is
happening today that I can ask the president about right now?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I just thought that was really funny that Trump is
answering so many questions about so many different topics that
sometimes if you're in the Oval office and preparing yourself
to be asking him questions, he runs through the entire
roster of questions. So you're going on dailymail dot com
to check and see what the latest news is. Maybe
(22:23):
OutKick dot com. Okay, a bunch of people went away
in Buck. We got loaded lines all over the country.
Let's uh, let's go to Dave and Rochester, New York.
We'll start with you, Dave fire Away.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Hey, guys, love your show, So I think I think
you're missing the mark on the grocery store food desert.
What's happened. There's so much theft actually that stores have
to lock product up. I've live in Rochester, New York,
and there's uh, you know, Wegman's chain here in Rochester,
and they moved out of the city entirely with the
exception one store due to theft. Yeah, and we've got
(22:57):
two walmarts in Rochester that basically have two law enforcement
cars outside and shot spotters in the parking lot. So
it's not that, you know, they don't want to buy stuff,
it's that there's so much stuff there's no profit to
run a grocery store.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Well, thank you. It's it's a combination of multiple factors.
But what we were talking about in particular was the
products that are sold in the grocery store. Even when
they are discounting quote unquote healthy foods, the people who
buy product still want to buy the unhealthy food. In
other words, it's not an absence.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
And people aren't swiping all the shark cootery. I can
assure you that that's not what's happening.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
And also we've talked about this quite a lot because
the worst thing about a store shutting down in the
neighborhood is not only the lack of access to the store,
oftentimes because of theft, it takes all those jobs out
of the community. So you have to get on a
bus or you have to get on public transit and
go a decent distance to have a job.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Look, you can see you can take a drive through
any neighborhood really in America, and you know, based on
the businesses and kind of how the businesses look, you know,
what the vibe is around the business, what kind of
a neighborhood you're in. If you're in a neighborhood where
the businesses have bars on the doors, bars on the windows,
(24:19):
even for like a seven to eleven setup, it looks
like there's a bank teller behind, you know, bulletproof glass,
you're in bad shape. If there's a lot of check
cashing places, If there's a lot of liquor stores, especially
kind of depressing looking liquor stores, you're in bad shape.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Right.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
We talk about what happened at some of these pharmacies
when there were the BLM riots that would burn down
these pharmacies. Play some of those places like a wall,
you know, Walgreens. People actually get their food there that
get groceries that they'll go there to get YLK, they'll
go there to get So when those close down, it's
not just oh I have to go further from my
prescription or whatever. It's also adding to the lack of
(24:58):
good food options. Look, I spent about a year and
a half of the NYPD, and we would do were
we would do steakouts. I mean, I know that sounds
like I was. I would do steakouts to be an
unmarked car. I'd be with the detective and in some
very very sketchy neighborhoods and you know people, uh, you'd
(25:19):
see like what they're buying and where they go, what
the stories look like. You can tell in a lot
of these stores what the average income of the people
living in the neighborhood is just by what by the
grab and go right by the register. I'm telling you know,
if you're in a fancy uh, if you're in a
fancy ish or even a middle class neighborhood, it's going
to be like, you know, nice chocolate bars and things
(25:41):
like that. If you're in a rough neighborhood, it's gonna
be off brand chips, it's gonna be off brand whatever.
And you know, you see these things playing out, and
people pick up on these signals in their own community,
and and it's and it's a shame because you should
have pride in the businesses in your community. To your point,
also in employers in your community, which makes it a
(26:03):
place that people feel more invested in as well.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
No doubt. Joe in Naples, Florida, Joe, what you got for.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Us, gentlemen? I want to weigh in on the H
one bs. For mid seventies through two thousand and eight,
I ran a technology company in the Boston area. I
was competing with half a dozen major computer companies, a
lot of tech I had to use H one b's
(26:31):
because the American schools were not turning out the quality
of engineer and mathematicians I needed. I used a couple
of Germans, an Englishman, and a Japanese among others. I
put the issue down to in the fifties and sixties,
we had the big Eisenhower Science and Technology initiative in schools,
(26:56):
and that faded out by the mid seventies. I used them.
I wound up having to pay as much, if not more,
to get qualified engineers, data scientists, and math people.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
And so you couldn't find in your experience in Boston,
you couldn't find Americans with This was not a dollars
decision for you. Necessarily, you couldn't find American born workers
with the skill set you needed to have an effective company.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I would go down to MIT. I'm an alum of MIT.
I would go down there every interview opportunity, and I
might be able to get one engineer, one applied math guy.
Because I was competing against IBM, Deck, Data, General Wang,
a whole bunch of other big boys. They could we get.
We we got MIT, Northeastern BU. The fight for the
(27:52):
fight for qualified folks started very heavy in the late
seventies early eighties. For five years of the business, I
could sort of find what I needed. But when the
colleges started dumbing down grades and the government initiative on
the space race and technology started going down, putting down,
(28:16):
just could not get the quality of engineer.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Thank you for the call. And this is what I
would say, Buck is somewhat of a clarion call for
needing to graduate more American born students with skills in
the so called hard sciences as opposed to the social sciences,
which tend to be easier and aren't as challenging. Jeff
in Las Vegas, you got to take for us. Thanks
(28:41):
for calling.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Work for thirty years. And when I started out, all
the recruiters, all the recruiters were Americans, and as a
contract programmer, my life depends on recruiters. Now the majority
are Indians. And not only that, I would say about
ten or twenty percent are calling from India. And I'd
like to refute the first the guy that just was on,
(29:07):
I've been a VP, if the director, and I've hired programmers,
I've hired Indian programmers, and I've hired American programmers, and
American programmers are just as good, if not better.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
When I was.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
At American Mutual Funds, American Mutual Funds is in Irvine, California,
which is a big Indian community. Now there were floors
and floors of Indians, but senior management, senior management were
all Americans getting bonuses. One last thing, you know, just
(29:42):
to show you how dumb American companies can be. I
worked for Boeing for a while and when I was there,
when they made a contract, and when they made a
deal with China, and the deal was that China would
buy several hundred seven forty sevens if Boeing would agree
to turn over all the engineering documents on the technologies
that go into building seven forty seven. Guess what Boeing
(30:05):
made the deal. And one last thing, you guys have
got one of the top shows in America. Use your
show when you have when you guys come up with great,
great ideas, which you do all the time, call these calls,
Chuck Schumberg, call call these the call AOC call a
Crockett and live online. And if they're too cowardly, the
(30:28):
answered right, we'll all see it.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
They're all full of crack.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Hey, well, thank you for the call. A lot of
good comments there. They won't come on, and I think
there's now a rule where we aren't allowed. I know
this was an old school radio thing. You could just
call people and try to get them online without get
them on air, without saying who you are, and you
would get them talking and then they find out, hey,
we're talking to tons of people all over the city
(30:53):
or all over the state or the nation. We have
we have extended offers to people across the pullolitical spectrum
and there are a.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Couple a couple of things on this. One is we
would never get beat even forget about that rule, which
I think you're you're right on that, but i'd have
to look into it. We wouldn't get around their staff.
They don't Chuck Schuter. There's no there's no like bat
phone to Chuck Schumer. Well, at least we don't have it.
We don't have that line where we could call in.
So we're not going to get around his staff. And
(31:21):
I honestly think a lot of the time there's a
limited value with some of these Democrats. They're just gonna say,
you know, Chuck Schumer would say, it's about affordability, it's
about healthcare. Donald Trump is wrecking the Republic. You've already
you've already heard it all. And that's why I don't
really you know, we can pick and choose. Like Fetterman
would be interesting because there's some areas where you could
(31:44):
actually get to a place of some agreement, a little disagreement.
There's a give and take. With your run of the
mill democrat on a radio show, I mean, a Democrat
politician on a radio show, they're just gonna say what
they always say. I mean what they're saying on CNN,
they're going to stay right on the talking point. So
I just don't think it's very likely to be instructive
or very good radio.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Personally.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
If that wasn't the case, I think we would push
more to get Democrats on Plus play will yell at
them like he did Mike Pence and then everyone will cry.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Would be I would be very happy to get these
guys on. They won't come on. I think it's because
they just know that they don't have anything beyond talking points.
And talking points in a three minute television hit might
work in a fifteen minute radio it actually expects me.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
I can give you a preview of our conversation with Chuck,
our imaginary conversations with Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I'd say, Senator Schumer, so.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Have premiums for the average American on the individual market
gone up on average one hundred percent or more over
the last ten years? And you know his response would be,
Donald Trump doesn't care about the working class and doesn't
care about Middle America, and we want to make sure
your premiums are cheap. And I could repeat my question,
I could say it again, but sure, is it true?
(32:57):
You know what he would say Donald Trump doesn't care
out the middle class. He's you know, blah blah. This
is this is why you don't really get very far
with these people. So especially shoot, he wouldn't even be fun.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
He's actually really boring and not a great communicator, which
is not ideal. We'll come back and we got some
funny topics to have send you into the afternoon with.
But I want to tell you tonight the New England
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Speaker 4 (34:50):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We got kind of
a short one here to close out the show, so
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the spirit of Davy Crockett. Ten percent of the profits
goes to Tunnel to Towers, the Foundation, and tomorrow I'm
gonna put out a marker. I want to talk about
this tomorrow. The Open Table app, which I use less
now that I'm a dad, because you know, it's a
lot more time dealing with pulling Puraid p's off the floor,
you know. I mean, we're in that phase.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
You don't get to go out to dinner as often
as you used to.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
New we have to get a babysitter because also the
dog and my baby have they have a deal going
where the dog now goes close to the high chair
and knows that about seventy five percent of the puraid
food ends up on the ground, and so she's the
cleanup crew. So I can't I can't stop this right
because I'm like, well, it's kind of efficient, but that's
what's going on. But Open Table Clay the app that
(35:56):
everyone uses for reservations, Open tables collecting more than just
where you're like to eat on people. And I want
to get into this. I actually I'll tell you this everybody.
I think if you're a repeat canceler on restaurants for reservations,
I think that should be taken into account. I think
we should have something of a dining out social credit score.
I know some of you are gonna get so ticked off,
(36:18):
but I'm into it. So we can talk about this tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
We'll have some fun with that. We'll have some fun
with the Friday edition of the program. Overall, great calls
from you guys on the complicated issue of H one
b VSA's wide variety of perspectives and i AP preceded
hearing from so many of you. We'll have some fun
on the Friday edition of the program. Seemed like Bill
(36:41):
O'Reilly was a little bit nervous about that steak bet Buck. Maybe,
just possibly he actually recognizes that we're gonna end up right,
and Gavin Newsom is gonna.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Be I'm already researching the best steakhouses in Long Island
to meet up with Uncle Bill.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
So we'll see
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