April 16, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show is dominated by breaking news and extended analysis of President Donald Trump’s evolving strategy toward Iran, combined with broader discussions on global security, U.S. leadership, and American space exploration. The hour opens live with President Trump speaking outside the White House, taking an unusually wide range of questions from reporters on Iran, the ceasefire, oil prices, Hezbollah, Ukraine, immigration, and the global economy. Buck Sexton guides listeners through Trump’s remarks in real time, emphasizing that the president believes the United States is very close to a deal that would permanently prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.
A central theme of Hour 3 is the effectiveness of the U.S. naval blockade of Iran. Trump repeatedly stresses that the blockade of Iranian shipping—particularly through the Strait of Hormuz—has proven even more powerful than direct military strikes, placing overwhelming economic pressure on Tehran while avoiding large-scale civilian casualties. Buck explains that this strategy has effectively flipped Iran’s primary leverage point against itself, turning what was once a global chokepoint into a tool of U.S. dominance. Trump states that oil prices are far lower than expected, inflation is easing, and a successful deal would push energy prices even further down.
Another major development discussed extensively in Hour 3 is the inclusion of Hezbollah in the ceasefire framework. Buck notes that this underscores Hezbollah’s role as an Iranian proxy and confirms that any lasting Middle East settlement must address Iran’s broader regional network, not just its nuclear program. Trump reiterates that his goal is not regime change, but absolute prevention of Iran ever obtaining a nuclear weapon—without sunset clauses or temporary limits. Buck outlines what real enforcement would entail, including removal of enriched uranium, constant satellite monitoring, and unrestricted inspections of suspect facilities.
The hour also highlights Trump’s posture as an unusually accessible commander‑in‑chief. Buck contrasts Trump’s frequent, unscripted engagement with the press against previous administrations, arguing that Trump communicates his plans openly and leaves little doubt about his intentions. Trump sets clear timelines, confirming the ceasefire began April 8 and is scheduled to expire April 22. Buck walks listeners through the three realistic paths forward: a finalized deal before the deadline, an extension of the ceasefire to complete negotiations, or a renewed escalation involving strikes on Iranian infrastructure alongside the continuing blockade.
Beyond Iran, Hour 3 briefly touches on broader international issues, including Ukraine, Hezbollah missile attacks on Israel, and Trump’s assertion that he would personally travel to Pakistan to finalize a historic agreement if negotiations reach that stage. Buck characterizes Trump’s approach as bold, high‑risk statecraft that relies on leverage, pressure, and credibility rather than prolonged diplomacy without consequences.
In the latter part of Hour 3, the show shifts tone while remaining topical, turning to NASA’s Artemis II mission and the renewed push for human space exploration. Buck enters the conversation as a skeptic, questioning the significance of returning to the Moon, while producer Greg passionately explains why Artemis II matters as a technological, cultural, and strategic stepping stone toward Mars and long‑term human expansion beyond Earth. The discussion covers innovation, national ambition, SpaceX’s role in reshaping space travel, and the importance of maintaining American leadership in exploration and engineering.
The hour closes with listener calls and talkbacks reacting to Trump’s Iran strategy, national pride, space exploration, and cultural debates. Buck maintains his trademark mix of seriousness and humor, reinforcing that while the stakes abroad are historic—possibly preventing nuclear catastrophe—the show remains grounded in open conversation with its audience.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour of Clean Book kicks off right now, President
trumpets speaking just outside the White House.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
We are going to join the Commander in chief. You're live.
Let's do it, friends. I know you tell the airline
and the will.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Nobody about because well, wait, so if you look at
the oil, and if you look at the price we're paying,
it's about half what people thought it.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Would be if you did what.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
I had to do.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
We had to take this journey to the Middle East
in order to get rid of a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
They would have been if we didn't hit it with
it be two.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Bombers, or if I didn't kill the Barack Hussein Obama deal,
the nuclear deal, which was a disaster, we would have
had nuclear weapons exploding in the Middle East to beyond.
I believe I've been able to stop that.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I think we have a.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Very successful negotiation going on right now, and I think
it'll be if it happens, it'll be announced fairly soon,
and that'll give us free oil, free harmost straight. Everything
would be nice. And I think your oil price will
go down the lower than what it was before, and
I think a lot of good things will happen.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Just for clarity, you're willing to extend the tease fire.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
People, so we'll see. I don't know that we'll have
it didn't ideally well, but if I needed to, I.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Will if I need so much.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
What do you think that if I need to polped
you so much?
Speaker 6 (01:17):
What do your methods for them?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
And do you will visit Lebanon after that?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I will do that At the right time, I would
certainly go there.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
You know Poo doesn't want to stop it apparently keep
bombing Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Do you think this war has the potential to go
on for years more? Well, it should have been.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
It should have never started. If I were president, the
war in Ukraine never would have started with Russia. But
it's it's going on.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Hopefully it'll get over.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
So get out last week and said she had no
links Jeffrey Epstein, who did she had none?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Why did you come out and say that one?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Because the fake news was saying she did and she
had none, and I think that's been proven. Uh, it
bothered her that the fake news was being fake news,
So she just to clarify that.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Who's taking care of Pascola?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Do you think Doc, they are destroying to steal dog
young trying We're going to see how it all works out.
But they'll be working and coordinating if you know, you
know Lebanoga, so they'll be working with it as well as.
Speaker 7 (02:16):
In acquiring for reading oil. What are you still interested
in acquiring raaining oil?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Well, we'll see. I mean, we have a very good
relationship with Iran right now, as hard as it is
to believe. And I think it's a combination of about
four weeks of bombing and a very powerful blockade. The
blockade is maybe more powerful than the bombing. If you
want to know that, there were going to make the
Arab country paying of course all the country. I think
(02:44):
they'll make that.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I think they're going to make that contribution.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I think I think the Arab countries, because we've done
a lot, I think that make a contribution toward the Corse.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Show that didn't up not involved.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Running a Pitts without any con you fin if you
make a deal, we're gonna see what happened. But I
think we're very close to making a deal with Iran.
You'll be the first to know. But I think we're
we have a chance.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
And if that.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Happens, oil goes way down, prices go way down, inflation
goes way down, and you're gonna have much more importantly
than even that, you won't have nuclear holocaust.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
All right, so President of tromp down making.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
It all right, there you go, team, So we have
That was President Trump Live. And yeah, uh, some interesting
things going on there. For one thing, has Blah is
now included in these negotiations for the ceasefire in case
anybody was wonderings really a proxy of Iran, Well, considering
they have to be a part of the season, they're
going to be a part of this these for negotiations. Yes,
(04:04):
Trump saying we have a good relationship with Iran. I'm
sure a lot of people are going to he said that.
He also said we're very close to a deal with Irom.
But let's be clear. When he says we have a
very good relationship, I'm gonna do a little Trump translation.
What he means is he's saying they're starting to be
more willing to see the light and that the communication
(04:26):
is bearing fruit. I don't think Trump is suggesting that
the Iranian government are big fans of ours. I don't
think he's saying that. That would be a bit extreme.
But Trump said if iron had a nuke, they would
use it. We'll bring you some of the We were
in commercial break when he started with this was watching
it here, but we'll bring you some of the key
(04:47):
moments of that. And there are a few things here
that come together. Like I said, that was just the president.
I was speaking outside of the White House. Also, just
can you imagine I don't want to get diverted to
Biden talk now, because he's going to be a footnote
in American history, I think, and people, even Democrats, will
try to memory hole the whole Biden well lack of
(05:09):
memory among other things, fiasco. But can you imagine the
former president just pretty much every day it feels like
taking questions from a somewhat hostile depends on the question
or press corps and handling things in real time. This
guy is communicating with us constantly. He's putting out true
social posts constantly. So we don't have to guess as
(05:31):
to what this president to this commander in chief has
in mind. We don't have to sit around wondering whether
he has a plan that he is executing on. He
tells us exactly what's going on. So the ceasefire, and
by the way, Trump also said no sunset limits on
any Iran deal because that was always a problem for me.
This idea that okay, you can't enrich for five years, Well,
(05:55):
that doesn't get us to a good place. That was
what Aron said, by the way. And if you can
enrich for twenty years, okay, Iran will wait and they'll
do that. So the ceasefire including Hasibl is an interesting point.
We're heading toward the following There will be the ceasefire date,
which I can't do the math on the flyer up
the top of my head, but I think it's what
(06:17):
is it? Guys, Guys, when does a ceasefire end? Do
a quick search for me on that one.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Let me know.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I think it's sometime next week it would end, So
maybe like next Thursday or Friday or something. So the ceasefire,
because it was a ten day, right if memory serves
or was it? Yeah, it was a ten day ceasefire.
So once that's coming closer, you're going to have really
only three options. You're going to have a deal, which
(06:42):
would be for us, certainly, I believe the most that
would be the best outcome.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Wait, is Trump still going now, team he's up? Sorry,
he's guys. He stopped from it. But now he's still going.
Let's go back to the man himself. Play it for
a second.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Here, it's possible, but some foreigner is in the United States.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Open these people up.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Well, you know, if I did open borders, it wasn't
very hard to get here.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
But we've got many of them out.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You know, we've bought many, many people, many many very
bad people, including thousands of murderers that we've taken out
of our country, thousands of drug lords that we've taken
out of our country, hundreds of thousands of prisoners that
were let into the US that we've taken out of
our nothing. As far as the scientists are concerned. Will
probably have a pretty good answer over the next week.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
And what the thought around.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Does it have to be a big seal all at once,
or which you accept a little deal.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
That starts, well, I have a little deal. I can
make a little guy. I want to get it done
and get.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Back to uh keep going with low.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
You know, our pricing is doing great. As soon as
the war is over, we're going to be lower than
we were two or three years ago.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
So I want to get back to that. I want.
We had to do something.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
We had to make sure that a random a gets
a nuclear weapons and we're at that. They've agreed to that.
They've totally agreed to that. They've agreed to almost everything.
So maybe if they can get to the table, there's
the difference. They agree they got to get to the
table with a pen. We'll have that over with and
then we could focus on our great economy. And also,
(08:16):
you know, I inherited the highest prices in the history
of our country, the worst inflation in the history of
our country. I'll get it down to a very low number.
We had it to a very low number, and it's
still low. But the most important thing right now is
to make sure a rant can never have a nuba.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
All right, So I think we leave it there.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
He's talking about a whole range of things now, talking
about immigration and the guys. We'll pull some of the
top clipstrees you can hear it, but a few things.
One the team pulled for me that the ceasefire is
scheduled to end April twenty second. So yeah, that's like
late late next week if my math is correct, And
it was set for two weeks from the get go.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
It began on April eighth, So so here we are now.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Deep into this ceasefire process, and Trump is speaking about
where the negotiations stand. He is saying, we are very
close to a deal with Iran, and I think Trump
recognizes that people are going to put a lot of
a lot of consideration into that. Well, what does very
close mean and what kind of a deal is it
(09:23):
for the Iranians at this point to be willing to
give up any nuclear ambition. Remember, there's two pieces to that.
There's the agreeing to do it, and then there's the
processes through which we can verify that they're doing it.
As I've said before, that would mean a rich uranium
comes out of the country. It means we'd be monitoring
(09:45):
with satellites constantly, and it also means that we would
have the right to inspect any facilities that we suspected
of being used for the purposes of illicit nuc activity.
And I think that's just for the guys in charge
in Iran. That is total capitulation. I hope it happens.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
But if that happens, it means that Trump has finally
backed the Iranian government into a corner so effectively that
they have to they have to break on that. That
is their non negotiable that has been their non negotiable
up to this point. They're going to enrich uranium. They're
going to continue doing this.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
And if you believe the Trump administration's version of events,
and I do on this this story, when they met
with negotiators for Trump, initially with Koff and Kushner, the
Iranians were essentially saying, you got to treat our nuclear
program as a fete complie. You have to act like
this is now a part of reality for the future
(10:55):
and not going to change. And I think that kind
of bluster and that really that disrespect from the Iranian
negotiators toward the United States. And Trump, trust me, takes
that personally when he's the president that really incited or
ignited this whole situation. So he's saying, we're getting closer
(11:16):
and closer to a deal. We know what the major
sticking points are. It's all about that nuclear deal. But
we have them in a very tough place. I don't
know how they break out of this. I don't know
how the unless they are just willing to endure months
of suffering and think that that will somehow spike oil
(11:37):
price is enough to create pressure on Trump to abandon
this siege, because it really is a blockade, is a
naval siege in a sense. And what I see happening
here is by the twenty second, by the twenty second
of April, which is when the seas fire is supposed
to end, Trump can have a deal, a final deal too.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
That would be the best scenario.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Trump can say, we're really, really close, and we're going
to extend the ceasefire for another two weeks. I've already
I've been telling you four weeks. That is what I
think will happen. And I still think that will happen,
although I'm getting a little more optimistic about a full
victory outcome here, but I still think it's going to
be a delayed negotiation.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
The other option.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Is just start blowing up more stuff in Iran, turn
the heat up even more while the blockade is going on.
It'd be a one to two punch, and I think
Trump is willing to do that. So those are as
I see it, the three pathways, and then the wild
card options would be on the Iranian side, and the
wild card options would be they blow up a tanker
(12:47):
in the Strait, which I think is too suicidal, although
I remember this is the land of suicide bombers. Broadly speaking,
I think it's too suicidal even for the Iranian government
that is left, and they recognize that, I think, but.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
You know, we don't really know.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I'm trying to think of other ways that they could
shake things up more directly, but those are the those
are the only things that I see because because Iran's
leverage was the straight of horror moves and Trump has
flipped that on them. Trump has used jiu jitsu on
the world stage to take the one choke point that
(13:28):
it's kind of a play on words there with jiu jitsu, right,
the one choke point that he has or that the
Iranians had, and he flipped it around and now is
using it to choke them. It's remarkable and and it's
it's showing a lot of understanding of the strategy in
the state craft here. So it's you got to say
(13:48):
it right now, it's it's looking pretty impressive what Trump
has been able to pull off. What do you think
about all of this? What do you think about this
blockade and Trump's strategy here? Want to hear from you,
So give us a call, send us your talkbacks, and
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Speaker 1 (15:21):
Trump is today thirty minute or so impromptu almost thirty
minutes impromptu press conference. Unfortunately, the chopper was in the
background there, folks, So I'm sorry about that audio quality,
but it's the said was that that's the feed right,
there's no you're taking it live, and that the chopper
in the background is pretty noisy.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
But Trump is.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Trump haske was taken all kinds of questions. There are
a lot of stuff on Iran. And Trump also said,
according to my team here, because we're all monitoring it together,
that Iran is set to execute four more people. So
there's going to be Iranian execution is going on, So
they have time for brutality even in this moment with
(16:05):
the most powerful country in the world putting there, putting
the Iranian government right in the crosshairs. Tom and Spokane. Tom,
what's going on? You want to talk about this?
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Oh? Well, well, thanks Buck. I just think that uh,
Trump needs to more often and more strongly voice that
it's not we're not against Iraq, I mean Iran. We're
against uh not the Iranian people, just the Iranian uh establishment, Yeah,
(16:45):
the regime.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Sure, it's not about the Iranian people. It's about the molo's,
the IRGC, the besieged. These these guys right.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Stress a lot more often and and you know, if
he has a good speech writer, I would like to
rate some speech is for Trump myself.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Just well, Tom, we will pass along your regards on
that one and we'll see if that hits. Thank you
so much for calling in. I would say this Trump's
rhetoric is Trump's rhetoric. He's not It's definitely not going
to change it now. And I think that it's this
is much more about telling we the American people, what
he's doing than it is speaking directly to the people
(17:23):
in Iran. Right now, I think they're quite aware that
we are blowing up military targets. I mean, let's understand something,
even without using nukes, we could flatten Tehran tomorrow if
we wanted to we're not trying. The military actions of
the Department of Wars Taking are not designed, certainly not yet,
not designed to punish the Iranian people broadly, although the
(17:46):
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Welcome back in here, Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
We'll have some of the cuts here from that we
didn't play from that impromptu press conference, if you will,
Trump taking a whole range of questions outside of the
White House with the chopper Chopper going to the background,
get through the Choppa, and we have a bunch of
(19:20):
you sending in all kinds of talkbacks and thoughts, and
we'll take some of your calls too on where this
is all going. But look at you know that I'm
I come from a background of somebody who saw things
not going well put it mildly up close and personal
in both the Rock and Afghanistan Democrat and Republican administrations.
(19:41):
I might add, so anytime we're talking about war, I
just approach it with a I don't approach it with
a pessimistic view. I just it's very much a trust
but verify situation for me, because if we're going to
put our people in harm's way, if we're going to
be using the military to life, thousands of lives abroad.
(20:04):
We should be asking questions and be darn short's the
right way. I have had my moments of questioning and
even some skepticism of some of what's gone on with
Trump and Iran. But if this embargo, I'm sorry, blockade.
If this blockade holds of just Iran in the Strait
(20:26):
and so Iran is no longer using that as leverage,
it becomes our greatest point of leverage against Iran. If
that holds, and their economy I would assume, is going
to start to spiral. And then you add to that
perhaps additional air strikes, not clear on what they would be.
(20:48):
I wonder how long the Iranians can hold on with that.
I think that they had assumed that there may be.
And again when I say the Iranians, it was true,
it is true what that caller said before. We're talking
about the iran in government. Our beef, the world's beef,
but America specifically, our beef with the end Israel. The
(21:08):
Iranians is with the security services, the government, the military.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
It's not with someone who lives in a.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Modest house in Isfahan or something, and it's just trying
to go teach Sunday, well, not Sunday school, but teach
well maybe, but go to you know, teach grammar schools.
What I meant to say that that's not our problem,
that's not our beef. We're not trying to hurt people
who have had no effect on Iranian policy and in
many cases want the regime gone. Of course, as we know,
we saw that with those protests that we're out in
(21:41):
the streets. But this is let's go to cut twenty
six here for a second. Trump is sounding very positive
here on this deal and the prospect for a deal
play twenty.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Six extending the deep fire with Iran. We're doing very well.
I can tell you maybe it'll happen before that. I'm
not sure it needs to be extended. Son, Iran wants.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
To make a deal, and we're dealing very nicely with them.
We've got to have no nuclear weapons if we do,
that's a big factor. And they're willing to do things
today that they weren't willing to do two months ago.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
So he is straight up telling us that there is
progress in the negotiations in terms of concessions the Iranians
are are willing to make. Now this could all be
part of the Iranian positioning, the Iranian play for time strategy.
But I think that the reason Trump is out there
saying this right now is because he knows and this
(22:46):
is what I'm seeing too. If this situation with the
straight holds, this is a one that the pressure valve
is now really one way. The issues of the straight
up horror moves have become far more powerful for the
Iranian regime than they are for us in terms of
the way to either sit this out or turn off
(23:10):
the heat whatever it may be, or or wait this out.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
So that's where we are with the Iran deal. We'll
see if it actually ends up happening. And Trump also
has said that he would go to Pakistan. This was
some news that was just broken a few minutes ago.
This is twenty seven. He says he would go to
Pakistan to complete a deal if one is ready to
be done.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Would you.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Deal yourself?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I would. I would go to Pakistan. Pakistan has been great.
They've been so good. Islamabad, I'll be I might go. Yeah,
if the deal is signed in Islamabad, I might go.
The field Marshals has been great. The Prime Minister has
been really great in Pakistan.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
So I beg you, and if he gets a deal,
maybe Trump tower islamah Bah.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
But you know that better than anybody.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
It's a beautiful tower. He'd build the most beautiful Uh.
I've never been to Islamabad. I hear it's not great.
But yeah, Trump is saying that he would go himself
because he would recognize, we would all recognize the historic
nature of that kind of an agreement, and he certainly
wants to be there. He understands, he understands all the
(24:17):
implications of getting this to that point.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
But I am.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I am more optimistic now than I still think there's
going to be an extension of the ceasefire, to be clear,
but I'm more optimistic that at the end of this
Trump is going to get something closer what he wants
than I.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Was before.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Because of the of the change, the change about that
we've been discussing today. Now the Artemist crew, the Artemist
two crew is talking about their their Moon mission.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I I'm not a big like Crucier Greg.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I think Clay also, Clay has more of the and
I mean this in a good way, the childlike wonder
when it comes to space exploration and astro like he
loves all that stuff, and I am a little more like, Okay,
I'm glad we're doing big things again.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Uh, I'm glad that we are also really in the
early stages of building out true space exploration infrastructure. Now
SpaceX is a huge piece of that equation. But getting
us to go on this or getting this historic moon
mission done, it's cool and and uh, you know, there's
(25:29):
there's a lot of good.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Producer Greg, do you want to come on and tell
tell me, tell me why the Artemist two? Is he
in studio right now? Or am I catching him?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Mind?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I'm here, He's not grabbing shake check all right, Ducer Greg.
Producer Greg, Artemist two. They're talking about this. Why should
a salty old dog like me care that much about
this mission?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Sell me on this thing.
Speaker 7 (25:52):
It's about the human exploration and what we can achieve,
the technology and the whole the whole thing coming together,
what it takes to produce something like this, I mean,
a rocket like that going to the Moon is probably
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the most sophisticated piece of machinery, with so many different
working parts at every time, with so many points of
failure that could happen, and the fact that they were
able to get it, to put together, to go together,
and to go to the moon, in this case around
the moon, and then hopefully in a few more years
actually land on the moon again, just stretches us as peoples,
(26:37):
as human, as Americans, and to show that we can
do it as regain some of the prizes. So here,
here's okay, producer Greg you're doing.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I mean, I'm hoping NASA doesn't snatch you up to
do comms for them, because you're doing an excellent job explaining,
as I said, the childlike wonder that so many have
about it. But here's my thing. We've already been to
the moon. We did this, So isn't this a little
bit like the second person to to summit Mount Everest?
Like the first person, it's oh my gosh, the second
(27:07):
person it's okay, that was hard, but we didn't we
already get there.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Help me with that, okay, real quick. Who was the
first person to walk on the moon? Neil Armstrong? Who
was the second? I don't know, Buzz Aldrin. You don't
you've heard his name though, right? Yeah, yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
So I'm not like an astronaut hater I'm just not
as I don't get as fired up about this.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
Here's here's my point that that just because this is
the second time we're going doesn't just because buzz Aldrin
is the second person to step foot on the Moon
doesn't make the accomplishment any less important or less significant.
And two more things, This is a first step to
get back to to to get to Mars. In order
to do this, to get to Mars, what Elon wants
(27:50):
to do, what Trump wants to do, what we need
to be doing as a human species, to expand ourselves
beyond Earth, to stretch our knowledge and our boundaries. Getting
to the Moon is the first step. Because the gravity
is lighter, the opportunities for mining some of the materials
we need, water and other things. It's a better place
(28:10):
to launch from than Earth. So that's that's the next thing.
So this is all a stepping stone to get onto
Mars and beyond, to expand ourselves into the twenty second
century and beyond.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
That was really good, producer, Greg, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I'm quite quite sold on the prospect of this being
very exciting to people.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Thank you so much for that.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
See, when you have it's a little like a Scully.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
And Molder situation. You know, if you got a little
bit of a skeptic about that, you got to bring
in the believer. And Greg, Greg is a believer, and
in this one, I was really just being honest with him.
I wasn't I wasn't pretending like when I pretend to
hate hockey just to get him and producer Mark all
fired up at me, because then they want to throw
me into the boards and pull my jersey over my head.
But yes, this was a this is a big, a
(28:56):
big step for MANKINI and I suppose even though we've
taken this more step before.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
So that's interesting to me. I still think, thank you, Greg,
that was great.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I still think that it would be really interesting for
Clay and I to get down to SpaceX, and I'd
like to find a way.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
To work that out.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
We got to reach out to Elon's team and and
see because I have heard from people who have been
down there, you know, I saw. I went and actually
met with the Secretary of War and saw some of
his team, as you guys know, at Cape Canaveral, and
saw the NASA facility there and the rocket and oh
this is actually saw this rocket. I actually went and
(29:36):
saw the rocket that's right, all right, I'm pretty sure
that was the one that I saw was about to
be the one that they used. I have a photo
of me standing in front of the Artemis too. I
should have put that together before this. So yes, I've
been there. The Blue Origin facility was pretty cool, but
you know, I want to see the SpaceX facility. SpaceX
(29:56):
They're like they're like the bad boys of space exploration,
like they're just going for it. They're doing really cool stuff.
So I want to go check that out, and that
will be something that we'll put on the radar here
for the show. I think we'll have to put that
ahead of the Greenland show, which now we don't hear
about whatever happened to Greenland. Greenland was going to be ours.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And now it's not. So sad. I thought we'd be
able to go and check that out.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I'm going to close out here with some call some
thoughts from all of you if you want to talk
space programs, if you want to either reiterate, I think
most of you are probably on producer Greg's.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Wave like that.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
This is amazing, this is incredible, and I do think
space exploration is about to do incredible things or becoming
more amazing as we go along here, and I think
Elon is going to get us to Mars.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
We are going to become multiplanetary in our lifetime. I
do believe that.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
And we have visionaries like Elon Musk who are just
doing things that are truly amazing. So that's all very
very cool. I'm sure a lot of you feel that
way about this, But to me, they're like, we're going
to get back.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
To the moon.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I was kind of like, well, we've been to the moon, right,
but now still a big deal, still very very important,
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Speaker 2 (32:08):
Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get
your podcast. Closing up shop today on Clay and Buck.
Clay will be back.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Clay and I are going to be linking up here
two amigos, high fiving and thriving here in the Palm
Beach area. Going to be at mar Lago tonight's White
House South if you will, at a at a lovely
charity event there. So we're we're very excited about that.
We'll have some more information on that out there, I
do believe. Unfortunately for those of you who are not
(32:39):
going to be there, it's completely sold out. But that's
great obviously to raise money for the very worthy cause.
So we are excited about that.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
This is all right.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
We got f Mike from Hoboken, New Jersey, who's a
WR listener who's sending a talk back.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Let's see what he has to say, Producer.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Greg, don't take cracks from book about the space program.
Come on, buck, we're putting people on the surface of
the Moon. Come on, have a sense of national pride
and excitement. You gotta be a little bit more like
play in this respect. You're disappointing me.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Come on. I mean, it's cool. We've been in the
moon before, though, like when.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
We land on Mars, I'll be super excited when we
have space lasers like in Star Wars.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Poo poo pooh.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
You know, then I'll be excited. But you know, my
excitement group Prducer Greg did a very good job.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
He sold me on it.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Why it's important. But you know, it's a little bit
like regaining territory that was lost. It's not really doesn't
feel like breaking new territory all that much. But you know,
I hear what you guys are saying. I hear where
you're going on this one and for a lot of
folks out there space the Final Frontier. I feel like
(33:52):
Star Trek really fell off in the twenty first entry.
I feel like Star Trek was bigger in the nineties,
just in the culture and every thing else than it
is maybe in the Yeah, the late nineties, star Trek
was having a moment. I know originally it was Captain Kirk,
which is way before that, but I think it was
a comeback. I'm just trying to think of my own
viewing and movies and stuff that I saw. They were
(34:13):
like Star Trek movies, they would they would put out there.
But it has become Star Wars all the time in
the twenty first century. So this this has turned into
the Star Wars victory victory celebration, I think in the
best movie or TV series set in outer space. I
(34:33):
tried to watch The Martian with Matt Damon. It was okay,
it was okay, and it's little, a little.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Really long.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
There's another complaint that I have, guys, and all my
complaints are correct, So just understand you can like to
take notes on this stuff, neck ties unless you're at
and one of my esteemed listeners pointed out, what about weddings,
meeting the president.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Okay, yes, you know church on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Okay, there are times when a tie is appropriate, but
just wearing a tie, to wear a tie, and he's crazy.
They're like, oh, when you go on Fox, you should
wear a time. I'm not wearing tie on Fox. Maybe
if I were a host. I'm not even paying me.
I'm not gonna wear a tie, so anyway, I'm not
a tie guy. And also, drawstring pants are genius and
you should just get in on this. I'm telling you.
(35:18):
They've made them now so you can't even you can't
even tell they can hide the drawstring in the waistband,
which is also elastic. You're gonna be so comfored those
of you who are mocking me over this. You're gonna say,
while Buck, you were right and you're always right, and
it's amazing. And then where what I just lost my
train of thought from a second ago. We're talking about
space movies. Yeah, The Martian is just okay. Movies that
(35:40):
are too long, That was my get off my lawn moment.
Movies that are too long, with very rare exceptions, a
movie should not be should not be longer than two
hours and really an hour forty is the sweet spot.
Here we go, Carol from Lincoln, Nebraska, KFA be listener
(36:00):
g on the talkback hit it.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Hey, I just turned producer Greg on there with Buck.
I think it needs to be a show producer Greg
or Buck and producer Greg.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
How about that?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Vin, that's a great idea and I can understand both
of you. Thanks, thank you, Carol. It's a great idea.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
But you sids a producer Ali, producer Greg, producer Mark.
They're with us every day and they all have areas
of experts, so they're a part of the ensemble cast
right now.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
You know what I'm saying. It's like we're an orchestra
and producer Greg is the tuba player. That was that
a shot? I don't know, but he's definitely the orchestra
with us. Is the tuba player to get the respect
he deserves. I think he does probably better than a
flute player. Play would say that he'll be with us tomorrow.
Talk to you guys then,
Third hour of Clean Book kicks off right now, President
trumpets speaking just outside the White House.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
We are going to join the Commander in chief. You're live.
Let's do it, friends. I know you tell the airline
and the will.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Nobody about because well, wait, so if you look at
the oil, and if you look at the price we're paying,
it's about half what people thought it.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Would be if you did what.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
I had to do.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
We had to take this journey to the Middle East
in order to get rid of a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
They would have been if we didn't hit it with
it be two.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Bombers, or if I didn't kill the Barack Hussein Obama deal,
the nuclear deal, which was a disaster, we would have
had nuclear weapons exploding in the Middle East to beyond.
I believe I've been able to stop that.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I think we have a.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Very successful negotiation going on right now, and I think
it'll be if it happens, it'll be announced fairly soon,
and that'll give us free oil, free harmost straight. Everything
would be nice. And I think your oil price will
go down the lower than what it was before, and
I think a lot of good things will happen.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Just for clarity, you're willing to extend the tease fire.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
People, so we'll see. I don't know that we'll have
it didn't ideally well, but if I needed to, I.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Will if I need so much.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
What do you think that if I need to polped
you so much?
Speaker 6 (01:17):
What do your methods for them?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
And do you will visit Lebanon after that?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I will do that At the right time, I would
certainly go there.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
You know Poo doesn't want to stop it apparently keep
bombing Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Do you think this war has the potential to go
on for years more? Well, it should have been.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
It should have never started. If I were president, the
war in Ukraine never would have started with Russia. But
it's it's going on.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Hopefully it'll get over.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
So get out last week and said she had no
links Jeffrey Epstein, who did she had none?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Why did you come out and say that one?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Because the fake news was saying she did and she
had none, and I think that's been proven. Uh, it
bothered her that the fake news was being fake news,
So she just to clarify that.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Who's taking care of Pascola?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Do you think Doc, they are destroying to steal dog
young trying We're going to see how it all works out.
But they'll be working and coordinating if you know, you
know Lebanoga, so they'll be working with it as well as.
Speaker 7 (02:16):
In acquiring for reading oil. What are you still interested
in acquiring raaining oil?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Well, we'll see. I mean, we have a very good
relationship with Iran right now, as hard as it is
to believe. And I think it's a combination of about
four weeks of bombing and a very powerful blockade. The
blockade is maybe more powerful than the bombing. If you
want to know that, there were going to make the
Arab country paying of course all the country. I think
(02:44):
they'll make that.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I think they're going to make that contribution.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I think I think the Arab countries, because we've done
a lot, I think that make a contribution toward the Corse.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Show that didn't up not involved.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Running a Pitts without any con you fin if you
make a deal, we're gonna see what happened. But I
think we're very close to making a deal with Iran.
You'll be the first to know. But I think we're
we have a chance.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
And if that.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Happens, oil goes way down, prices go way down, inflation
goes way down, and you're gonna have much more importantly
than even that, you won't have nuclear holocaust.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
All right, so President of tromp down making.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
It all right, there you go, team, So we have
That was President Trump Live. And yeah, uh, some interesting
things going on there. For one thing, has Blah is
now included in these negotiations for the ceasefire in case
anybody was wonderings really a proxy of Iran, Well, considering
they have to be a part of the season, they're
going to be a part of this these for negotiations. Yes,
(04:04):
Trump saying we have a good relationship with Iran. I'm
sure a lot of people are going to he said that.
He also said we're very close to a deal with Irom.
But let's be clear. When he says we have a
very good relationship, I'm gonna do a little Trump translation.
What he means is he's saying they're starting to be
more willing to see the light and that the communication
(04:26):
is bearing fruit. I don't think Trump is suggesting that
the Iranian government are big fans of ours. I don't
think he's saying that. That would be a bit extreme.
But Trump said if iron had a nuke, they would
use it. We'll bring you some of the We were
in commercial break when he started with this was watching
it here, but we'll bring you some of the key
(04:47):
moments of that. And there are a few things here
that come together. Like I said, that was just the president.
I was speaking outside of the White House. Also, just
can you imagine I don't want to get diverted to
Biden talk now, because he's going to be a footnote
in American history, I think, and people, even Democrats, will
try to memory hole the whole Biden well lack of
(05:09):
memory among other things, fiasco. But can you imagine the
former president just pretty much every day it feels like
taking questions from a somewhat hostile depends on the question
or press corps and handling things in real time. This
guy is communicating with us constantly. He's putting out true
social posts constantly. So we don't have to guess as
(05:31):
to what this president to this commander in chief has
in mind. We don't have to sit around wondering whether
he has a plan that he is executing on. He
tells us exactly what's going on. So the ceasefire, and
by the way, Trump also said no sunset limits on
any Iran deal because that was always a problem for me.
This idea that okay, you can't enrich for five years, Well,
(05:55):
that doesn't get us to a good place. That was
what Aron said, by the way. And if you can
enrich for twenty years, okay, Iran will wait and they'll
do that. So the ceasefire including Hasibl is an interesting point.
We're heading toward the following There will be the ceasefire date,
which I can't do the math on the flyer up
the top of my head, but I think it's what
(06:17):
is it? Guys, Guys, when does a ceasefire end? Do
a quick search for me on that one.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Let me know.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I think it's sometime next week it would end, So
maybe like next Thursday or Friday or something. So the ceasefire,
because it was a ten day, right if memory serves
or was it? Yeah, it was a ten day ceasefire.
So once that's coming closer, you're going to have really
only three options. You're going to have a deal, which
(06:42):
would be for us, certainly, I believe the most that
would be the best outcome.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Wait, is Trump still going now, team he's up? Sorry,
he's guys. He stopped from it. But now he's still going.
Let's go back to the man himself. Play it for
a second.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Here, it's possible, but some foreigner is in the United States.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Open these people up.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Well, you know, if I did open borders, it wasn't
very hard to get here.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
But we've got many of them out.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You know, we've bought many, many people, many many very
bad people, including thousands of murderers that we've taken out
of our country, thousands of drug lords that we've taken
out of our country, hundreds of thousands of prisoners that
were let into the US that we've taken out of
our nothing. As far as the scientists are concerned. Will
probably have a pretty good answer over the next week.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
And what the thought around.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Does it have to be a big seal all at once,
or which you accept a little deal.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
That starts, well, I have a little deal. I can
make a little guy. I want to get it done
and get.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Back to uh keep going with low.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
You know, our pricing is doing great. As soon as
the war is over, we're going to be lower than
we were two or three years ago.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
So I want to get back to that. I want.
We had to do something.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
We had to make sure that a random a gets
a nuclear weapons and we're at that. They've agreed to that.
They've totally agreed to that. They've agreed to almost everything.
So maybe if they can get to the table, there's
the difference. They agree they got to get to the
table with a pen. We'll have that over with and
then we could focus on our great economy. And also,
(08:16):
you know, I inherited the highest prices in the history
of our country, the worst inflation in the history of
our country. I'll get it down to a very low number.
We had it to a very low number, and it's
still low. But the most important thing right now is
to make sure a rant can never have a nuba.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
All right, So I think we leave it there.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
He's talking about a whole range of things now, talking
about immigration and the guys. We'll pull some of the
top clipstrees you can hear it, but a few things.
One the team pulled for me that the ceasefire is
scheduled to end April twenty second. So yeah, that's like
late late next week if my math is correct, And
it was set for two weeks from the get go.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
It began on April eighth, So so here we are now.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Deep into this ceasefire process, and Trump is speaking about
where the negotiations stand. He is saying, we are very
close to a deal with Iran, and I think Trump
recognizes that people are going to put a lot of
a lot of consideration into that. Well, what does very
close mean and what kind of a deal is it
(09:23):
for the Iranians at this point to be willing to
give up any nuclear ambition. Remember, there's two pieces to that.
There's the agreeing to do it, and then there's the
processes through which we can verify that they're doing it.
As I've said before, that would mean a rich uranium
comes out of the country. It means we'd be monitoring
(09:45):
with satellites constantly, and it also means that we would
have the right to inspect any facilities that we suspected
of being used for the purposes of illicit nuc activity.
And I think that's just for the guys in charge
in Iran. That is total capitulation. I hope it happens.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
But if that happens, it means that Trump has finally
backed the Iranian government into a corner so effectively that
they have to they have to break on that. That
is their non negotiable that has been their non negotiable
up to this point. They're going to enrich uranium. They're
going to continue doing this.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
And if you believe the Trump administration's version of events,
and I do on this this story, when they met
with negotiators for Trump, initially with Koff and Kushner, the
Iranians were essentially saying, you got to treat our nuclear
program as a fete complie. You have to act like
this is now a part of reality for the future
(10:55):
and not going to change. And I think that kind
of bluster and that really that disrespect from the Iranian
negotiators toward the United States. And Trump, trust me, takes
that personally when he's the president that really incited or
ignited this whole situation. So he's saying, we're getting closer
(11:16):
and closer to a deal. We know what the major
sticking points are. It's all about that nuclear deal. But
we have them in a very tough place. I don't
know how they break out of this. I don't know
how the unless they are just willing to endure months
of suffering and think that that will somehow spike oil
(11:37):
price is enough to create pressure on Trump to abandon
this siege, because it really is a blockade, is a
naval siege in a sense. And what I see happening
here is by the twenty second, by the twenty second
of April, which is when the seas fire is supposed
to end, Trump can have a deal, a final deal too.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
That would be the best scenario.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Trump can say, we're really, really close, and we're going
to extend the ceasefire for another two weeks. I've already
I've been telling you four weeks. That is what I
think will happen. And I still think that will happen,
although I'm getting a little more optimistic about a full
victory outcome here, but I still think it's going to
be a delayed negotiation.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
The other option.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Is just start blowing up more stuff in Iran, turn
the heat up even more while the blockade is going on.
It'd be a one to two punch, and I think
Trump is willing to do that. So those are as
I see it, the three pathways, and then the wild
card options would be on the Iranian side, and the
wild card options would be they blow up a tanker
(12:47):
in the Strait, which I think is too suicidal, although
I remember this is the land of suicide bombers. Broadly speaking,
I think it's too suicidal even for the Iranian government
that is left, and they recognize that, I think, but.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
You know, we don't really know.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I'm trying to think of other ways that they could
shake things up more directly, but those are the those
are the only things that I see because because Iran's
leverage was the straight of horror moves and Trump has
flipped that on them. Trump has used jiu jitsu on
the world stage to take the one choke point that
(13:28):
it's kind of a play on words there with jiu jitsu, right,
the one choke point that he has or that the
Iranians had, and he flipped it around and now is
using it to choke them. It's remarkable and and it's
it's showing a lot of understanding of the strategy in
the state craft here. So it's you got to say
(13:48):
it right now, it's it's looking pretty impressive what Trump
has been able to pull off. What do you think
about all of this? What do you think about this
blockade and Trump's strategy here? Want to hear from you,
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Trump is today thirty minute or so impromptu almost thirty
minutes impromptu press conference. Unfortunately, the chopper was in the
background there, folks, So I'm sorry about that audio quality,
but it's the said was that that's the feed right,
there's no you're taking it live, and that the chopper
in the background is pretty noisy.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
But Trump is.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Trump haske was taken all kinds of questions. There are
a lot of stuff on Iran. And Trump also said,
according to my team here, because we're all monitoring it together,
that Iran is set to execute four more people. So
there's going to be Iranian execution is going on, So
they have time for brutality even in this moment with
(16:05):
the most powerful country in the world putting there, putting
the Iranian government right in the crosshairs. Tom and Spokane. Tom,
what's going on? You want to talk about this?
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Oh? Well, well, thanks Buck. I just think that uh,
Trump needs to more often and more strongly voice that
it's not we're not against Iraq, I mean Iran. We're
against uh not the Iranian people, just the Iranian uh establishment, Yeah,
(16:45):
the regime.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Sure, it's not about the Iranian people. It's about the molo's,
the IRGC, the besieged. These these guys right.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Stress a lot more often and and you know, if
he has a good speech writer, I would like to
rate some speech is for Trump myself.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Just well, Tom, we will pass along your regards on
that one and we'll see if that hits. Thank you
so much for calling in. I would say this Trump's
rhetoric is Trump's rhetoric. He's not It's definitely not going
to change it now. And I think that it's this
is much more about telling we the American people, what
he's doing than it is speaking directly to the people
(17:23):
in Iran. Right now, I think they're quite aware that
we are blowing up military targets. I mean, let's understand something,
even without using nukes, we could flatten Tehran tomorrow if
we wanted to we're not trying. The military actions of
the Department of Wars Taking are not designed, certainly not yet,
not designed to punish the Iranian people broadly, although the
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Speaker 2 (18:54):
Welcome back in here, Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
We'll have some of the cuts here from that we
didn't play from that impromptu press conference, if you will,
Trump taking a whole range of questions outside of the
White House with the chopper Chopper going to the background,
get through the Choppa, and we have a bunch of
(19:20):
you sending in all kinds of talkbacks and thoughts, and
we'll take some of your calls too on where this
is all going. But look at you know that I'm
I come from a background of somebody who saw things
not going well put it mildly up close and personal
in both the Rock and Afghanistan Democrat and Republican administrations.
(19:41):
I might add, so anytime we're talking about war, I
just approach it with a I don't approach it with
a pessimistic view. I just it's very much a trust
but verify situation for me, because if we're going to
put our people in harm's way, if we're going to
be using the military to life, thousands of lives abroad.
(20:04):
We should be asking questions and be darn short's the
right way. I have had my moments of questioning and
even some skepticism of some of what's gone on with
Trump and Iran. But if this embargo, I'm sorry, blockade.
If this blockade holds of just Iran in the Strait
(20:26):
and so Iran is no longer using that as leverage,
it becomes our greatest point of leverage against Iran. If
that holds, and their economy I would assume, is going
to start to spiral. And then you add to that
perhaps additional air strikes, not clear on what they would be.
(20:48):
I wonder how long the Iranians can hold on with that.
I think that they had assumed that there may be.
And again when I say the Iranians, it was true,
it is true what that caller said before. We're talking
about the iran in government. Our beef, the world's beef,
but America specifically, our beef with the end Israel. The
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Iranians is with the security services, the government, the military.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
It's not with someone who lives in a.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Modest house in Isfahan or something, and it's just trying
to go teach Sunday, well, not Sunday school, but teach
well maybe, but go to you know, teach grammar schools.
What I meant to say that that's not our problem,
that's not our beef. We're not trying to hurt people
who have had no effect on Iranian policy and in
many cases want the regime gone. Of course, as we know,
we saw that with those protests that we're out in
(21:41):
the streets. But this is let's go to cut twenty
six here for a second. Trump is sounding very positive
here on this deal and the prospect for a deal
play twenty.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Six extending the deep fire with Iran. We're doing very well.
I can tell you maybe it'll happen before that. I'm
not sure it needs to be extended. Son, Iran wants.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
To make a deal, and we're dealing very nicely with them.
We've got to have no nuclear weapons if we do,
that's a big factor. And they're willing to do things
today that they weren't willing to do two months ago.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
So he is straight up telling us that there is
progress in the negotiations in terms of concessions the Iranians
are are willing to make. Now this could all be
part of the Iranian positioning, the Iranian play for time strategy.
But I think that the reason Trump is out there
saying this right now is because he knows and this
(22:46):
is what I'm seeing too. If this situation with the
straight holds, this is a one that the pressure valve
is now really one way. The issues of the straight
up horror moves have become far more powerful for the
Iranian regime than they are for us in terms of
the way to either sit this out or turn off
(23:10):
the heat whatever it may be, or or wait this out.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
So that's where we are with the Iran deal. We'll
see if it actually ends up happening. And Trump also
has said that he would go to Pakistan. This was
some news that was just broken a few minutes ago.
This is twenty seven. He says he would go to
Pakistan to complete a deal if one is ready to
be done.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Would you.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Deal yourself?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I would. I would go to Pakistan. Pakistan has been great.
They've been so good. Islamabad, I'll be I might go. Yeah,
if the deal is signed in Islamabad, I might go.
The field Marshals has been great. The Prime Minister has
been really great in Pakistan.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
So I beg you, and if he gets a deal,
maybe Trump tower islamah Bah.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
But you know that better than anybody.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
It's a beautiful tower. He'd build the most beautiful Uh.
I've never been to Islamabad. I hear it's not great.
But yeah, Trump is saying that he would go himself
because he would recognize, we would all recognize the historic
nature of that kind of an agreement, and he certainly
wants to be there. He understands, he understands all the
(24:17):
implications of getting this to that point.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
But I am.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I am more optimistic now than I still think there's
going to be an extension of the ceasefire, to be clear,
but I'm more optimistic that at the end of this
Trump is going to get something closer what he wants
than I.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Was before.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Because of the of the change, the change about that
we've been discussing today. Now the Artemist crew, the Artemist
two crew is talking about their their Moon mission.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I I'm not a big like Crucier Greg.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I think Clay also, Clay has more of the and
I mean this in a good way, the childlike wonder
when it comes to space exploration and astro like he
loves all that stuff, and I am a little more like, Okay,
I'm glad we're doing big things again.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Uh, I'm glad that we are also really in the
early stages of building out true space exploration infrastructure. Now
SpaceX is a huge piece of that equation. But getting
us to go on this or getting this historic moon
mission done, it's cool and and uh, you know, there's
(25:29):
there's a lot of good.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Producer Greg, do you want to come on and tell
tell me, tell me why the Artemist two? Is he
in studio right now? Or am I catching him?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Mind?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I'm here, He's not grabbing shake check all right, Ducer Greg.
Producer Greg, Artemist two. They're talking about this. Why should
a salty old dog like me care that much about
this mission?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Sell me on this thing.
Speaker 7 (25:52):
It's about the human exploration and what we can achieve,
the technology and the whole the whole thing coming together,
what it takes to produce something like this, I mean,
a rocket like that going to the Moon is probably
(26:12):
the most sophisticated piece of machinery, with so many different
working parts at every time, with so many points of
failure that could happen, and the fact that they were
able to get it, to put together, to go together,
and to go to the moon, in this case around
the moon, and then hopefully in a few more years
actually land on the moon again, just stretches us as peoples,
(26:37):
as human, as Americans, and to show that we can
do it as regain some of the prizes. So here,
here's okay, producer Greg you're doing.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I mean, I'm hoping NASA doesn't snatch you up to
do comms for them, because you're doing an excellent job explaining,
as I said, the childlike wonder that so many have
about it. But here's my thing. We've already been to
the moon. We did this, So isn't this a little
bit like the second person to to summit Mount Everest?
Like the first person, it's oh my gosh, the second
(27:07):
person it's okay, that was hard, but we didn't we
already get there.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Help me with that, okay, real quick. Who was the
first person to walk on the moon? Neil Armstrong? Who
was the second? I don't know, Buzz Aldrin. You don't
you've heard his name though, right? Yeah, yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
So I'm not like an astronaut hater I'm just not
as I don't get as fired up about this.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
Here's here's my point that that just because this is
the second time we're going doesn't just because buzz Aldrin
is the second person to step foot on the Moon
doesn't make the accomplishment any less important or less significant.
And two more things, This is a first step to
get back to to to get to Mars. In order
to do this, to get to Mars, what Elon wants
(27:50):
to do, what Trump wants to do, what we need
to be doing as a human species, to expand ourselves
beyond Earth, to stretch our knowledge and our boundaries. Getting
to the Moon is the first step. Because the gravity
is lighter, the opportunities for mining some of the materials
we need, water and other things. It's a better place
(28:10):
to launch from than Earth. So that's that's the next thing.
So this is all a stepping stone to get onto
Mars and beyond, to expand ourselves into the twenty second
century and beyond.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
That was really good, producer, Greg, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I'm quite quite sold on the prospect of this being
very exciting to people.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Thank you so much for that.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
See, when you have it's a little like a Scully.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
And Molder situation. You know, if you got a little
bit of a skeptic about that, you got to bring
in the believer. And Greg, Greg is a believer, and
in this one, I was really just being honest with him.
I wasn't I wasn't pretending like when I pretend to
hate hockey just to get him and producer Mark all
fired up at me, because then they want to throw
me into the boards and pull my jersey over my head.
But yes, this was a this is a big, a
(28:56):
big step for MANKINI and I suppose even though we've
taken this more step before.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
So that's interesting to me. I still think, thank you, Greg,
that was great.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I still think that it would be really interesting for
Clay and I to get down to SpaceX, and I'd
like to find a way.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
To work that out.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
We got to reach out to Elon's team and and
see because I have heard from people who have been
down there, you know, I saw. I went and actually
met with the Secretary of War and saw some of
his team, as you guys know, at Cape Canaveral, and
saw the NASA facility there and the rocket and oh
this is actually saw this rocket. I actually went and
(29:36):
saw the rocket that's right, all right, I'm pretty sure
that was the one that I saw was about to
be the one that they used. I have a photo
of me standing in front of the Artemis too. I
should have put that together before this. So yes, I've
been there. The Blue Origin facility was pretty cool, but
you know, I want to see the SpaceX facility. SpaceX
(29:56):
They're like they're like the bad boys of space exploration,
like they're just going for it. They're doing really cool stuff.
So I want to go check that out, and that
will be something that we'll put on the radar here
for the show. I think we'll have to put that
ahead of the Greenland show, which now we don't hear
about whatever happened to Greenland. Greenland was going to be ours.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And now it's not. So sad. I thought we'd be
able to go and check that out.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I'm going to close out here with some call some
thoughts from all of you if you want to talk
space programs, if you want to either reiterate, I think
most of you are probably on producer Greg's.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Wave like that.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
This is amazing, this is incredible, and I do think
space exploration is about to do incredible things or becoming
more amazing as we go along here, and I think
Elon is going to get us to Mars.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
We are going to become multiplanetary in our lifetime. I
do believe that.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
And we have visionaries like Elon Musk who are just
doing things that are truly amazing. So that's all very
very cool. I'm sure a lot of you feel that
way about this, But to me, they're like, we're going
to get back.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
To the moon.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I was kind of like, well, we've been to the moon, right,
but now still a big deal, still very very important,
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Clay will be back.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Clay and I are going to be linking up here
two amigos, high fiving and thriving here in the Palm
Beach area. Going to be at mar Lago tonight's White
House South if you will, at a at a lovely
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We'll have some more information on that out there, I
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So we are excited about that.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
This is all right.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
We got f Mike from Hoboken, New Jersey, who's a
WR listener who's sending a talk back.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Let's see what he has to say, Producer.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Greg, don't take cracks from book about the space program.
Come on, buck, we're putting people on the surface of
the Moon. Come on, have a sense of national pride
and excitement. You gotta be a little bit more like
play in this respect. You're disappointing me.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Come on. I mean, it's cool. We've been in the
moon before, though, like when.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
We land on Mars, I'll be super excited when we
have space lasers like in Star Wars.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Poo poo pooh.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
You know, then I'll be excited. But you know, my
excitement group Prducer Greg did a very good job.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
He sold me on it.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Why it's important. But you know, it's a little bit
like regaining territory that was lost. It's not really doesn't
feel like breaking new territory all that much. But you know,
I hear what you guys are saying. I hear where
you're going on this one and for a lot of
folks out there space the Final Frontier. I feel like
(33:52):
Star Trek really fell off in the twenty first entry.
I feel like Star Trek was bigger in the nineties,
just in the culture and every thing else than it
is maybe in the Yeah, the late nineties, star Trek
was having a moment. I know originally it was Captain Kirk,
which is way before that, but I think it was
a comeback. I'm just trying to think of my own
viewing and movies and stuff that I saw. They were
(34:13):
like Star Trek movies, they would they would put out there.
But it has become Star Wars all the time in
the twenty first century. So this this has turned into
the Star Wars victory victory celebration, I think in the
best movie or TV series set in outer space. I
(34:33):
tried to watch The Martian with Matt Damon. It was okay,
it was okay, and it's little, a little.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Really long.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
There's another complaint that I have, guys, and all my
complaints are correct, So just understand you can like to
take notes on this stuff, neck ties unless you're at
and one of my esteemed listeners pointed out, what about weddings,
meeting the president.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Okay, yes, you know church on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Okay, there are times when a tie is appropriate, but
just wearing a tie, to wear a tie, and he's crazy.
They're like, oh, when you go on Fox, you should
wear a time. I'm not wearing tie on Fox. Maybe
if I were a host. I'm not even paying me.
I'm not gonna wear a tie, so anyway, I'm not
a tie guy. And also, drawstring pants are genius and
you should just get in on this. I'm telling you.
(35:18):
They've made them now so you can't even you can't
even tell they can hide the drawstring in the waistband,
which is also elastic. You're gonna be so comfored those
of you who are mocking me over this. You're gonna say,
while Buck, you were right and you're always right, and
it's amazing. And then where what I just lost my
train of thought from a second ago. We're talking about
space movies. Yeah, The Martian is just okay. Movies that
(35:40):
are too long, That was my get off my lawn moment.
Movies that are too long, with very rare exceptions, a
movie should not be should not be longer than two
hours and really an hour forty is the sweet spot.
Here we go, Carol from Lincoln, Nebraska, KFA be listener
(36:00):
g on the talkback hit it.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Hey, I just turned producer Greg on there with Buck.
I think it needs to be a show producer Greg
or Buck and producer Greg.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
How about that?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Vin, that's a great idea and I can understand both
of you. Thanks, thank you, Carol. It's a great idea.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
But you sids a producer Ali, producer Greg, producer Mark.
They're with us every day and they all have areas
of experts, so they're a part of the ensemble cast
right now.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
You know what I'm saying. It's like we're an orchestra
and producer Greg is the tuba player. That was that
a shot? I don't know, but he's definitely the orchestra
with us. Is the tuba player to get the respect
he deserves. I think he does probably better than a
flute player. Play would say that he'll be with us tomorrow.
Talk to you guys then,
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