August 14, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show features a mix of political analysis, cultural commentary, and listener interaction, with a significant focus on developments surrounding President Donald Trump’s administration and the broader political landscape. The hosts begin by discussing speculation over who could become the next White House press secretary, examining several potential contenders and debating the communications skills, media experience, and political instincts needed for one of the most visible positions in the Trump White House. The conversation also touches on media coverage, prediction markets, and the evolving relationship between conservative politics and major news outlets. A lighter but highly engaging portion of Hour 3 centers on a listener-driven discussion about cultural stereotypes associated with Subaru vehicles, Birkenstocks, and Doc Martens. The hosts explore the history of Subaru’s marketing efforts, particularly the company's outreach to lesbian consumers during the 1990s and examine how those branding associations remain part of popular culture today. Listener calls and messages add humor and personal anecdotes while expanding the discussion into broader topics involving consumer behavior, music culture, identity, and marketing trends. The program then shifts to a substantive interview with Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio. Jordan discusses the upcoming midterm elections, congressional redistricting, and the limited number of competitive swing districts expected to determine control of Congress. The conversation covers Democratic and Republican political strategies, cultural issues influencing voters, and debates surrounding gender in sports. Jordan and the hosts also address election integrity, including voter identification laws, voter roll concerns, and ongoing scrutiny of political fundraising and election-related organizations. Later in Hour 3, the discussion turns toward fiscal policy and government spending. Jordan warns about the growth of the national debt, concerns surrounding long-term federal spending, and the future sustainability of Social Security. The hosts and their guest argue for greater fiscal responsibility while examining the political challenges involved in addressing America’s long-term financial obligations. They also discuss congressional interest in sports broadcasting policies, including issues affecting NFL broadcasts and the financial impact of sports television packages on businesses and consumers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour of Clay and Buck. We are midway through August.
We are in the back end of the summer. Clay, My,
how the time has blown?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
You guys have a couple of weeks of summer left.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Year, really more like three, I guess, because a late
feels like a late labor day this year. And then
it's just going to be a sprint to the midterms,
at least in terms of what we're covering and focused
on here on the program. So that will be something
to look forward to. I think will be a very
interesting time. And we're getting a lot of great talkback, talkbacks,
(00:33):
feedback calls. Enjoyed the live stream yesterday. Keatie Zachariah. Who
is some people saying on the short list for consideration
as White House Press secretary? Just putting that out there.
I personally think she would be fantastic in the role.
But there's some other names, Scott Jennings being floated. Who
(00:55):
is the top of the list right now? That's at
least being discovers I don't know if there really is
a clear sort of, you know, top tier of consideration.
And the thing with Trump is he's the decider, so
whatever he decides is what's gonna happen, and he could
change his mind tomorrow about it, I think.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So that's the way this is likely to go.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
But we will have a new press secretary announced here
pretty soon. I'm not sure when exactly, but that will
be happening. Dude, you have is there anyone are you
putting money down on anybody? Is anybody you think is
this is a shoe in or a no?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I was as as you're talking about it, I was
going to look up what the prediction markets say as
to who will be the next.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Precatory press secretary.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So there's three names that come to mind for me,
in addition to Katie Zachariah, who I think would be
really a good choice. Now, she's got four young kids too,
so she may have to make some of the same
decisions that that Caroline Levitt did.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Well, they're not babies, they're like like they're older. She's teenagers,
like twelve and up, I think, or something like that.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, a lot of Scott Jennings momentum would be interesting,
given that he battles every day on Trump's behalf on CNN,
He's got a lot of the recognition and knowledge with
the base there Anna Kelly is on Fox News right now,
which is a little bit interesting to me, only in
(02:22):
the sense that she is right now the number two
person behind Caroline Levitt. So let's let's make redheads great again.
You guys know I'm redhead over here. You know, my
wife's are redhead, my boys are redhead, my mom's a redhead.
I would say that these Fox News in interviews are
default sort of auditions for Trump, and Anna Kelly is
(02:46):
on right now.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, I'll give you.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Actually, I've got a couple more names too, Buck, because
I actually was thinking about this last night. I think
that so Scott Jennings, Anna Kelly is the person who
would be next to woman episode to speak if they
were going to do it.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I think Katie Miller.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
She's got the podcast, she worked in the White House,
Steven Miller's wife. I think she is very popular there.
And then I would say, in addition to in addition
to Katie Zachariyah to me, I think there's an argument
that Trump is going to go with Alena Habba. Elena Habber,
Remember he appointed her as the as the new Jersey's
(03:29):
a warrior.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I know, Jose, I mean, she's I could see why
there's a lot of there's a lot that she would
bring to the table that Trump would like. I don't
think she's gonna be the White House Press secretary though
I don't see that.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I know that her name is being floated. I'm just
saying I would be surprised if that was the direction
they went in. But who knows right now? I think
the only answer is Trump knows, or maybe he's going
to know as and he will be deciding.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You want to hear who the favorites are.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I just pulled it up, so we'll see according to
who though, I mean, there's so much, there's so much
wish this is this is the actual prediction market.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Oh protion markets. Well that's but that's a reflection of
the whispers and gossip.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
But go ahead, some.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Much, but at least people have put down money on this.
Anna Kelly is a pretty substantial favorite, thirty one percent
as the she's the number. She's Caroline Levitt's deputy right now,
she would move up. Alina Habas second favorite, Scott Jennings
third favorite, and Katie Miller fourth favorite. Other names on
(04:32):
here Stephen Chung, Carrie Lake, Sage Steele, Rachel Compost Duffy,
and that would be like probably the top eight according
to this list right now.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Rachel's lovely, but I think she's I think she's too nice.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You know, have you ever seen Rachel like get get
after somebody, because sometimes you got to slap these reporters around.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
A little bit metaphor speaking. I don't know she'd be good.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I'm just saying I don't think she's got You need
to have a little little edge, at least in the
Trump White House.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I think you do. This isn't going to be a
press score. To be fair, I will just put this
out there. I'm surprised there aren't more Fox.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
News names on this list because Trump watches Fox News
all day long, and the job when you go on
Fox News is to communicate an argument and sometimes throw
some brushback pitches at the mainstream media. So I, first
of all, a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I don't think there's a Fox anchor that would leave
their current job, certainly in prime time, to do that job.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I don't think there is one. So start with that.
Now you're saying, well, I don't think, I don't think.
I don't think an anchor would leave. I agree with that,
but there's a lot of guests that go on Fox News. Yeah,
I mean, look, well, there are a lot of pay
considerations for a lot of people. Like when you said Rachel,
I know Sean is in the is in Transportation Secretary
(06:03):
right now. She gets paid several million dollars a year probably,
I don't know her official salary to do the job
that she does at Fox News Fox and Friends Weekend host,
which is the job Pete Hegsett had before he got
elevated to Secretary of War. Judge Janine was on the
five right here, I'll give you a name that I
haven't heard anybody talk about. I think Tommy Laren would
(06:26):
actually do a really good job. I think she would
do a good job. Yeah, so some of the tad
Anna Kelly on the show, that's right. I remember I
had the team booker a while ago. So we've had
her on.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
With her weekend. I'm gonna be on with her tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
She hosts Saturday Sunday five to eight every day on
every Saturday Sunday. I'm gonna be guest hosting with her tomorrow.
And I know her well, I don't, I.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Don't know anything. I don't know if she wants to
take the pay I don't know if she want to
take the pay cut though. You know, this is the thing.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You got to have people that are really to do
government service and go in a different direction.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
That's that's a very personal, very personal question.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
One other name that I actually think would be really
good that Isabelle Brown. Oh yeah, she would actually be
I think really good.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Now I think you.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Think you don't need to be combative. I mean, I'm
thinking about the old Press Corps a little more. Caroline
sometimes had to be a little Mama bear though like
she she had, you know, they came after sometimes. So
I think you need to have a little bit of
that mix it up with people capability, which not everybody
who's a broadcaster does.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
By the way, Uh, taking this in a different direction
for a second, we got some funny talkbacks. I knew
that I was wondering when I was going to get
this one. Uh, apparently we're not going to get sponsored
by super U here.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
On the program. Oh it's very funny. The podcast listener
Jane from Wisconsin, play it you.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Guys, quit hating on women's Subaru owners. I just bought
my third Subaru and I'm nowhere near being a lesbian.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
No one's hating on super Us. I'm just you know,
there's some people say, some people say.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I would just.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Say, to wiscons communities, can we play Jane from Wisconsin
one more time?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
D you guys quit hating on women's SUPERU owners. I
just bought my third Super U and I'm nowhere near
being a lesbian.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I would just say to Jane, you're pretty near being
a lesbian if you're driving a super U, I would say, I.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Would say that. Actually, Like, I mean, am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
If you pull up next to somebody who is driving
a Super U and it's a woman by herself, are
you telling me you don't think for a minute, well
you must be a lesbian.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I I'm pleading the fifth right now.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I mean, I would say I'll continue it. By the way,
if you see a woman what are those shoes called
the Birkenstocks. Oh yeah, If you see a woman in
the Birkenstocks, odds are pretty high that she might be
a lesbian.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
So I'm just saying, if you.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
The Birkenstocks plus the super Ru, you might as well
just go ahead.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Maybe she just likes the band Fish or the grateful dead.
By the way, he says that there are always exceptions.
There is, for example, and I'm not trying to offend
the softball community here, not that they should be offended,
because not that there's anything wrong with that, but there
is in some people's minds an association with the lgbt
(09:35):
community of women and playing softball. There's some people think
that there tends to be this, But Caroline Levitt, who
is quite feminine and lovely and would not be considered
to be a member of the LGBTQ community, was a
softball player in college.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
So you can't.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
It's never one hundred percent unless you own a cult
nineteen eleven and then you're an old fogie who needs.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
To get a new.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
What if you found out that somebody played softball and
they had w NBA season tickets. Ooh, and they drove
a Super U to the games. No, that's and they
had stocks. I think we can just keep layering on details.
The odds of that being a heterosexual woman are getting
(10:22):
worse and worse. And by the way, I had the
three together, I'm gonna I'm gonna say the betting odds
on that would be prohibitive in one direction too, though
you could probably might be able to uh get that one.
How did this is a fun question, though, How did
Subaru come to be so directly connected to lesbians?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Do you want me to grocket and see it?
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Like, I'm actually I'd like for you to take your
Groc out and see, uh see what the uh see
what the actual desert like? Did they do an advertising campaign?
I mean asking this generally because I do think of
all the vehicles out there, I'm not sure you could
point to a vehicle and say that someone who is
gay a woman is likely to drive it. I don't
(11:04):
even know what number two would be behind a suber.
It's not going to and saw me and say it's
a Tesla. I know this is coming. I'm gonna look
at my mentions. They're gonna be like, yeah, the second
most popular car for lesbians is your Tesla?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
C Can I can I share this with you? Yeah?
I want to know.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
This is what Groc says about the Subaru connotation. It
came from deliberate nineteen nineties marketing by Subaru of America,
not organic preference. In the early to mid nineteen nineties,
Subaru's US sales were struggling against larger Japanese brands, the
company shifted towards niche marketing after research showed et cetera,
(11:45):
et cetera, IT professionals and a. So they looked at
groups that would pay a premium for the all wheel drive,
and a consistent standout group was lesbians. Focus groups and
sales data revealed strong lesbian ownership. Lesbians reported several times
(12:06):
more likely than the average US consumer with similar preferences
to buy a super U. Owners cited practical reasons. The
cars are reliable and good for outdoor activities and everyday
use without being oversized or flashy, as well as dependable.
So super U went after the lesbian community as a
(12:26):
marketing tactic.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Apparently I did not know this, so that is great research.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Why though, would they initially have been responding to it.
Do lesbians do more hikes? I'm just I mean, I'm
genuinely curious because we have we have we own a
Jeep Wrangler, right, Jeep Wrangler off road vehicle, easy to maneuver,
(12:54):
not particularly crazy expensive?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Why would the jeep Wrangler not be loved by lesbians
but the Subaru is.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Maybe because of the like military connotation. Of the jeep.
I don't know. Okay, you know that's an interesting take.
I mean, I'll tell you for me.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
The there was the era of the what was that
hideously ugly hybrid car that everyone had for a while,
a Pririus. If you drove a Prius, you were a lib.
I've never met somebody who drove a Prius who was
not a LIB. Now, some of you live in very
red states. Maybe it's different in Kansas than it was
in DC metro area, New York, Massachusetts. These are places
(13:33):
that I lived in the in the Prius era. But
the correlation between Prius owning and Bernie Sanders loving was
really high.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I mean shocking. Oh yeah, no, I think that's true.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
But I'm saying they recognized Subaru, which is what brands do, right,
They recognize.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Who is conceded. You're asking why do they over index
by four x? By the way, other groups Lesbians loved
the Suparu.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yes, so they sub found it started and then they
exploited it. They said, Hey, we got an audience here
that's responding very favorably. And now some poor guy's driving
around in his Subaru that he just got for a
great deal, and he's like, guys.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It is great gas miling.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I hope she's not listening. I think my sister in
law drives. Oh, we're gonna get heat. We're gonna get heat.
It's gonna be gonna be a rough one. All right, guys.
You know what else gets heat? Meat on the grill
or on the stovetop. Interesting transition. You know what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Meat.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
It's delicious, It's it's tasty. It's tasty for dinner.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
You curl up on the couch with a book or
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Speaker 2 (14:47):
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Speaker 3 (15:47):
Laura Travis, my wife, Happy anniversary twenty two years today.
She is listening right now. She had an important correction
subar us. Yes, lesbians loved them, but Burkins docks are
back in style with everybody, all ages of women, not
just the lesbians.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Eh. Interesting, They always this is like I wear boat shoes.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I don't care that, you know, people say they're like
casual looking or I love boat shoes. Every ten years
they come back big time in style. Every ten years.
People look look at the like topsiders he's wearing, and
I'm like, yeah, this is like my twentieth pair. So
you know, sometimes if you stay with the classics, you're
never out of style. If Jim and Colorado would do
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Speaker 7 (16:35):
We're a super U family. I have a super Roo,
my wife has a Super U. But honestly, every time
my wife comes home and I see her pulling in
the garage, I'm like, well, the lesbians home, Mike or Jim.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Very funny. Shawn in Savannah, I talk back.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
G Hey, guys, Sean Savannah. My daughter happins to drive
the super Rooe. She is sixteen and is not a lesbian,
but she does affectionately refer to her Subaru as the Lesbiuru,
so even her generation recognizes it.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
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Speaker 8 (17:17):
Hey, guys, driving in my Subaru pulled up to a
traffic light and there was another Subaru in front of
me with a Trump sticker, And this all happened in Massachusetts.
Can you believe.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
It's likely he's definitely provoking Massachusetts Subaru driver with the
Trump sticker.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
That is awesome.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, I almost felt like having lived in New York
and lived in Massachusetts as states, Massachusetts.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Felt way more liberal to me.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Actually, the second you get out of New York City,
New York feels very Massachusetts is like felt like Commieville everywhere.
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We're joined now by our friend Jim Jordan, Congressman from Ohio.
And I'll start off here because I bet you've been following.
(19:07):
What do you think about my goal to have the
most inclusive team in the history of women's basketball? One Huns,
Nashville Balls. Jim Jordan, would you want to come watch,
come visit in Nashville? Would you like to have courtside seats?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I mean, you guys do a great doble on every issue,
every debate that's out there, but this one. You've done
great on this one too. But this is like unbelievable.
I've been we've been driving, Uh just left Michigan, was
up helping the candidate there, Mike Bushard, a great candidate
of ours in the John James Seed, and we were
we were listening to your previous shows this week on
the way up this morning. Yeah, it's just it's just unbelievable. Hilarius.
(19:47):
What what the w NBA? What's the W stand for?
Can you define it? No, we can't, but we're going
to keep trying. Uh. Seems to be the position now
of the league.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Which is.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
You almost had to laugh. If it wasn't so serio,
isn't so ridiculous, you would.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Have to laugh at all when you're on the road.
Because we get a lot of questions about this. Well,
I always say what cuts through is not necessarily the
super nitty gritty details of governance, tax rates, how accounting
is allowed to exist when it comes to corporations, but
(20:21):
things like hey, we have to cancel Thanksgiving, or men
can identify as women in play in a women's basketball league.
Every time I'm out on the road, people want to
come up and talk about those things. I'm curious for
you. You're out on the trail, there's some ninety some odd
days to go. What are people coming up to you
when they see you and they recognize you for what
(20:43):
you do from Congress and Fox News? What are they
talking about to you?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah, I mean Republican voters particularly talking about just how
crazy the left is. And you've just hit it. But
you're right. Reagan always used to talk about in politics,
you got to paint with big bowl colors. You see that,
So instead of in the nitty gritty of every in
every debate, it's like the big bold things and of
course those things stand out. We're against Thanksgiving, we don't
like football, we can't define what a woman is, even
(21:08):
though it's the w NBA, for goodness sake, that just
underscores how how ridiculous the left is. So I think
you're exactly right people, And and you know, Americans have
they got up. We all got a sense of humor.
Americans have common sense and they look at these things
like this is ridiculous. I just came from a fundraising
event and the guy who hosted it for or for
Mike Bouchard was like, I think truly gets it. And
(21:29):
he gave a little little talk of the fun end
and he said, we have to be sensitive and understand
what's going on here because where they want to go,
I mean they will, they will ruin what this country
has always offered its citizens if the Left prevails, if
they win elections and they get their way, and that's
that's I think a key element of this, uh this
upcoming midterm election.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Appreciate you being with us, Congressman, and you know this
madness that we say with the WNBA situation as it
continues to play out, we talked about it a lot here.
You know this is one of these times where the
left makes this a huge issue. The Democrat party has
this as an orthodoxy, and yet every time we refuse
(22:12):
to submit to the crazy, they turn around and say,
why do you care so much? Or why are you
making such a big deal out of this? Do the
Democrats in Congress go along with this stuff because they
believe it or because they're scared of the constituency that
actually does both?
Speaker 4 (22:32):
I mean, it's definitely both. They're a fair number of
that I think are truly truly by into But you're right,
that's the technique they always use. They say, oh, you
Republicans are engaged in the culture wars. No we're not.
We're just for normal We're just for common sense. We
actually think guys should compete against guys in sports and
women should compete against women in sports. Go figure, you're
(22:53):
the ones who are You're the ones engaged in the
cultural sports. But they always then accuse you of you know,
the old line, They accuse you of what they're involved in.
But it's just the left side. I always say, the
left has a template. They will tell a lie, Oh
it's fine to have men and women's sports. They will
tell a lie big media will report the lie. Big
tech then amplifies the lie, and when you tell the truth,
(23:13):
they call you a racist or some other name, and
it plays out time and time again. And so it's
the same with this issue. They'll call you names. Oh,
you culture war creators and all. They're like, no, no, no,
you guys started it. We're just from the common sense position.
I think in the end, the country always sees through
it because most of the country, most Americans have common sense.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
When you look at we're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan,
it appears there's about eighteen seats. I'm curious what your
data would show that are going to decide who controls
Congress on the House side.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
In other words, with.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
All the redistricting having taken place and everything else, when
all the counting is done, there's about eighteen seats. Does
that correspond with the data that you see. How many
actual swing districts do you think are at play about
three months from now?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, it's a relatively small number, and particularly it got
smaller and light of the redistricting that took place. Redistruting
is going to help us. We have good candidates running
most of the retirements that took place on the Republican side,
are in relatively good Republican seeds, so that's in all
those are advantages to us. And then of course then
there's the big thing, which is they've taken all these
(24:26):
crazy positions. So that is the campaign. We got to
go tell voters that we did what we said. We
secured the border, we cut taxes, you know, no tax
on tips, and other great things we did in the
tax but that are positive. We required work for welfare
recipients who are getting your tax money. We're cracking down
on this fraud that took place in many of these
Democrats states, that we're doing what we said we would do.
(24:47):
But also it's important to point out the positions they
have taken are just radical, crazy positions, not to mention
the ones that really just hit voters with I'm against Thanksgiving,
I don't want Thanksgiving, and I don't like football and
every anything else. So that's the campaign. I think it's
not going to be easy out there, but I think
we can win because of all those reasons.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
What happens, Jim, if Democrats just take a majority in
the House, in your mind, are we just because I
want to be clear about what the stakes are here
for anybody who thinks, oh well, as long as Trump
is still in the White House, you know, things will
all be fine. But just so we can make sure
everyone knows who's thinking about voting and especially an important
(25:30):
congressional race as they come up. What happens if Democrats
get that majority.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
They'll investigate everybody. I mean, every cabinet secretary get investigative.
The oversight that they'll do won't be real overset. I'll
just be like going after their you know, the whole
weaponization lawfare. Even though they won't have the Justice Department
because President Trump will still be in the White House.
Of course, they'll have control a converss and a Congress
and all the levers that they can pull there. So
every you know, they'll investigate Rubio, they'll investigate the vice
president because they think they're one of those guys are
(25:57):
going to be our nominee. Course they go after President Trump.
They will, they can't help themselves. They will do a
third impeachment. They'll go after the private sector as well.
And this is this is the scary part. When Democrats
have the power, they use it. I mean, think about
what we just learned and this was the weaponization of
the Justice Department against members of Congress. But they had
this this thing called Round River where they were running
(26:18):
an operation. It wasn't an investigation. They were running an
op saying that that Senator Johnson, Senator Grassley, myself, Devin Nunas,
we were part We were conduits of Russian misinformation when
all we were doing is our legitimate oversight work and
how and looking into how they were trying to help
the FBI was trying to help Joe Biden win the
presidency and we got We were the ones labeled. So
(26:41):
that's how much they're committed to this weaponization, and they
will go after everybody if in fact, they win the midterms.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
You're in the process right now of investigating how New
Jersey manages to put at least six thousand people onto
voting roles. Hundreds of those people went on to vote
in the election that we know of that should not
have been able to vote in these elections. What are
you uncovering? How common do you think this actually is?
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Well, the main takeaway is is, of course, and you
guys have been great to talk about. This is the
underscores why we need to say back, Why why we
need you know, you got to show photo idea, you
got to be a citizen to vote for going to say,
but what we're looking into specifically is Mikey Cheryl said
one thing. The vendor who was who they had contracted
the City of New Jersey contract with, said another thing.
Because Mikey Cheryl tried to blame it on the vendor. Oh,
the only reason that we had non citizen on the
(27:31):
voter rolls and some of them actually participated in election,
which is against the law, was it was the vendor's fault.
It's the person we contract when they said no, no, no,
that's not the case. So we've got letters out to
the vendors saying we want more information, we want the
communications back and forth. So we're trying to dig into
this and find out exactly what happened there, because when
you got two different stories, experience has taught me that
(27:52):
many times the Democrats aren't necessarily being completely square with
the taxpayer. So we're digging into that, and then we're
going to try to see if is this going on elsewhere.
And of course, the one investigation we have where we've
now deposed six people with Act Blue and every single
one of them has taken. The fifth kind of raises
concerns too about what's going on there with foreign contributions
(28:14):
playing in our election system, So we continue to do
that investigation as well.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Congressman, my understanding, it's a Friday, so I don't I
don't want to be a bummer, but everyone knows whenever
I say that, I'm probably about to say something that's
a bit of a bummer. So maybe I should just stop.
Stop with the preamble. We spend a lot of money
as a government. Last month, I think we're setting some records,
and we still have soon or soon to be what
forty trillion in debt coming up here on the horizon.
(28:41):
Is this just is the runaway train now just fully
broken away, and there's nothing to be done about this
because I don't even hear anyone talking about trying to
cut any spending in a meaningful way.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Yeah, we're going to have to This math is math,
you know. Earlier this year, I actually the start of
this year, back in January, there was a front page
story in the Wall Street Journal said this United States
Senate class will be the first class that will have
to deal with the situation. You're describing and specifically it
was related to social security because projections are there's going
to be a shortball in six years, you know, a
(29:12):
Senate term, So we're gonna have to the day is coming. Now.
What's helping us the course is with the greatest thing gone,
you know, the greatest country and history, greatest economy and history,
where we're still the biggest kid on the block. But
this debt is real. We're gonna have to address it,
and we'll do it in a way to make sure
we honor the promise and commitment to social security because
it's people's money. But we're gonna have to deal with this,
(29:33):
and it's the day of reckoning is coming. But yeah,
it's uh, there are people talking about it. We you know,
certainly as conservatives have talked about this, but that data
is fast to protein and we're gonna have to We're
gonna to get an answer that protects the promise this
country's made with its people during money after all, but
gal back other spending so that we can do that.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Jim, I know we're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
You guys had me up to testify about that cost
of sports television everything else it was a lot of fun.
I enjoyed it. Question for you and I don't know
who has this committee? Is there a role for Congress
to examine why the WNBA can't tell us what a
woman is and actually put Kathy Engelbert, the commissioner of
(30:18):
the WNBA, under oath and just ask her some of
these basic questions. It's such a huge story, it's everywhere.
I'm not sure what committee would have jurisdiction about over that.
But have you thought about that at all? I mean,
I think again, it crystallizes just how radical and left
wing it is. Can you imagine the Democrat questions they
might ask? I mean, I think it would be pretty
(30:39):
amazing television.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Yeah, I'd love to see Brandon Gill who so he's
going on our committee, who's so good at like kind
of cut into the chase on some of these questions.
Love that Brandon do that. We're looking at a number
of things we may do in September that we think,
you know, highlighted and that are good public policy focus issues,
but also highlight the distinction in common sense and crazy.
So we're looking a number of things. By the way,
(31:01):
when you testified, it was great and as a result
of that that committite, I think we can take a
lot of credit for this, and you certainly can. Is
the NFL change where they were headed with the policy
on making bars and restaurants revamp their entire TV system.
It was going to cost these these small business owners
so much money they decided not to go that way.
And I think it's probably a direct result of the
(31:21):
committee hearing that took place in our in our committee
and frankly your testimony which was very powerful and very
very very persuasive.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I believe, well, thank you.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
And the guy was one of the sports bar owners
was there talking about how much they were going to
have to pay to be able to put on games
in a sports bar so people could come in and watch.
And it is a direct, tangible result that I think
is going to lead to a better outcome than otherwise
would have the hearing that you guys had. Jim, have
a fantastic weekend. We appreciate all your time as always,
(31:51):
and we'll try to keep you entertained as you're traveling
all over the place. We've got we've five hundred and
fifty affiliates, so you can find us most places.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Keep the great where take care.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Thanks you.
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Speaker 2 (33:12):
Quickly. Because we've remained to play this.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Abdul Lsayad is in trouble in uh Michigan. This is
Harry Bon saying, Mike Rogers is in the lead. People
do not like Abdul Lsayad. This would be a flip Listen.
Speaker 9 (33:27):
New Fox newspap Rogers is actually up by four points.
He's up by four points. It's close, But a Republican
is a head in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
And why why? What is going on?
Speaker 9 (33:36):
Look among independence Rogers actually leads by five.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
This is extremely unusual.
Speaker 9 (33:40):
Because across the political maps I was looking at these
different Fox newspapers. I couldn't find another example where the
Republican was actually leading among independents.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
It is all about Abdulla.
Speaker 9 (33:51):
He is a weak candidate, at least by the metrics.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
That we normally look at. I looked at all the
Fox newspers.
Speaker 9 (33:56):
All the Democrats were above water except for a duel,
I said, and he has thirteen points underwatered. This is
all about Abdul outside being a weak candidate, at least
in the minds of the voters. I couldn't think of
another example where you actually had a Democratic candidate who
was down at least four points. For this entire century,
abdulah said, is the only one in a poll that
(34:18):
meets CNN standards for publication. This is extremely, extremely, extremely unusual,
Abdulah I said, breaking records in.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
The ways that you don't want to. Okay, I think
he's in trouble. Put a pin in that. I'm sure
we'll be talking about it next week. Poor producer Greg
has been inundated with Subaru takes, including from Hubert in Alabama.
Listen to podcast listening lle Clay.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
Seriously, man, somebody p in your cheerios or something this morning.
I just bought my second Subaru for a hell of
a good deal about three days ago, and now I
got to listen to my favorite radio host who happened
to play flute and go to Civil War sleep away camp.
Give me flak about the cars that I drive. I
love this thing, man, It's awesome. It's reliable, it was affordable.
(35:06):
Get a grip, dude, you know what?
Speaker 1 (35:08):
You know what else is reliable and affordable? Flannel Doc Martin's.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Well, look, I appreciate Hubert down in Alabama. He and
Martina and Nevratilova just have great taste in cars.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Cut twenty five.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Nope, Uh, well it was worth Yeah, it's not there.
She was in a two thousand Subaru at that Just
to be clear, she was a spokesperson.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
That's when they that's when they started to roll all
the lesbians into their into their team, and uh, he's
got it.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Hit it.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
What do I know about the Trumans?
Speaker 4 (35:49):
What do I know about the Trull?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
What do I know about grip?
Speaker 8 (36:02):
Were differential?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
All right? We get without seeing them.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
It's Martina Navratilovan in two thousand and half for Subaru
Katie from Eureka, California, and hit this one a quick with.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
The fish reference.
Speaker 7 (36:13):
I am dead.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Have you ever been to the MSG shows?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
You and Carrie have to catch one?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Seriously?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Apparently Fee was a Buddhist prodigy. So I know a
little bit about fish. I can tell you. I went
to camp in Vermont, and I know people that like
to smoke the Mary Jane, So yes, Fish, I am
familiar with it.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Mary says she's never listening to the show again because
I'm an idiot, and uh, she hates.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I think she means me, you didn't need to. I'm
the Super Bowl play. You are arrogant and stupid. I
think that's
Third hour of Clay and Buck. We are midway through August.
We are in the back end of the summer. Clay, My,
how the time has blown?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
You guys have a couple of weeks of summer left.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Year, really more like three, I guess, because a late
feels like a late labor day this year. And then
it's just going to be a sprint to the midterms,
at least in terms of what we're covering and focused
on here on the program. So that will be something
to look forward to. I think will be a very
interesting time. And we're getting a lot of great talkback, talkbacks,
(00:33):
feedback calls. Enjoyed the live stream yesterday. Keatie Zachariah. Who
is some people saying on the short list for consideration
as White House Press secretary? Just putting that out there.
I personally think she would be fantastic in the role.
But there's some other names, Scott Jennings being floated. Who
(00:55):
is the top of the list right now? That's at
least being discovers I don't know if there really is
a clear sort of, you know, top tier of consideration.
And the thing with Trump is he's the decider, so
whatever he decides is what's gonna happen, and he could
change his mind tomorrow about it, I think.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So that's the way this is likely to go.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
But we will have a new press secretary announced here
pretty soon. I'm not sure when exactly, but that will
be happening. Dude, you have is there anyone are you
putting money down on anybody? Is anybody you think is
this is a shoe in or a no?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I was as as you're talking about it, I was
going to look up what the prediction markets say as
to who will be the next.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Precatory press secretary.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So there's three names that come to mind for me,
in addition to Katie Zachariah, who I think would be
really a good choice. Now, she's got four young kids too,
so she may have to make some of the same
decisions that that Caroline Levitt did.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Well, they're not babies, they're like like they're older. She's teenagers,
like twelve and up, I think, or something like that.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, a lot of Scott Jennings momentum would be interesting,
given that he battles every day on Trump's behalf on CNN,
He's got a lot of the recognition and knowledge with
the base there Anna Kelly is on Fox News right now,
which is a little bit interesting to me, only in
(02:22):
the sense that she is right now the number two
person behind Caroline Levitt. So let's let's make redheads great again.
You guys know I'm redhead over here. You know, my
wife's are redhead, my boys are redhead, my mom's a redhead.
I would say that these Fox News in interviews are
default sort of auditions for Trump, and Anna Kelly is
(02:46):
on right now.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, I'll give you.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Actually, I've got a couple more names too, Buck, because
I actually was thinking about this last night. I think
that so Scott Jennings, Anna Kelly is the person who
would be next to woman episode to speak if they
were going to do it.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I think Katie Miller.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
She's got the podcast, she worked in the White House,
Steven Miller's wife. I think she is very popular there.
And then I would say, in addition to in addition
to Katie Zachariyah to me, I think there's an argument
that Trump is going to go with Alena Habba. Elena Habber,
Remember he appointed her as the as the new Jersey's
(03:29):
a warrior.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I know, Jose, I mean, she's I could see why
there's a lot of there's a lot that she would
bring to the table that Trump would like. I don't
think she's gonna be the White House Press secretary though
I don't see that.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I know that her name is being floated. I'm just
saying I would be surprised if that was the direction
they went in. But who knows right now? I think
the only answer is Trump knows, or maybe he's going
to know as and he will be deciding.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You want to hear who the favorites are.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I just pulled it up, so we'll see according to
who though, I mean, there's so much, there's so much
wish this is this is the actual prediction market.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Oh protion markets. Well that's but that's a reflection of
the whispers and gossip.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
But go ahead, some.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Much, but at least people have put down money on this.
Anna Kelly is a pretty substantial favorite, thirty one percent
as the she's the number. She's Caroline Levitt's deputy right now,
she would move up. Alina Habas second favorite, Scott Jennings
third favorite, and Katie Miller fourth favorite. Other names on
(04:32):
here Stephen Chung, Carrie Lake, Sage Steele, Rachel Compost Duffy,
and that would be like probably the top eight according
to this list right now.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Rachel's lovely, but I think she's I think she's too nice.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You know, have you ever seen Rachel like get get
after somebody, because sometimes you got to slap these reporters around.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
A little bit metaphor speaking. I don't know she'd be good.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I'm just saying I don't think she's got You need
to have a little little edge, at least in the
Trump White House.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I think you do. This isn't going to be a
press score. To be fair, I will just put this
out there. I'm surprised there aren't more Fox.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
News names on this list because Trump watches Fox News
all day long, and the job when you go on
Fox News is to communicate an argument and sometimes throw
some brushback pitches at the mainstream media. So I, first
of all, a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I don't think there's a Fox anchor that would leave
their current job, certainly in prime time, to do that job.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I don't think there is one. So start with that.
Now you're saying, well, I don't think, I don't think.
I don't think an anchor would leave. I agree with that,
but there's a lot of guests that go on Fox News. Yeah,
I mean, look, well, there are a lot of pay
considerations for a lot of people. Like when you said Rachel,
I know Sean is in the is in Transportation Secretary
(06:03):
right now. She gets paid several million dollars a year probably,
I don't know her official salary to do the job
that she does at Fox News Fox and Friends Weekend host,
which is the job Pete Hegsett had before he got
elevated to Secretary of War. Judge Janine was on the
five right here, I'll give you a name that I
haven't heard anybody talk about. I think Tommy Laren would
(06:26):
actually do a really good job. I think she would
do a good job. Yeah, so some of the tad
Anna Kelly on the show, that's right. I remember I
had the team booker a while ago. So we've had
her on.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
With her weekend. I'm gonna be on with her tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
She hosts Saturday Sunday five to eight every day on
every Saturday Sunday. I'm gonna be guest hosting with her tomorrow.
And I know her well, I don't, I.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Don't know anything. I don't know if she wants to
take the pay I don't know if she want to
take the pay cut though. You know, this is the thing.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You got to have people that are really to do
government service and go in a different direction.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
That's that's a very personal, very personal question.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
One other name that I actually think would be really
good that Isabelle Brown. Oh yeah, she would actually be
I think really good.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Now I think you.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Think you don't need to be combative. I mean, I'm
thinking about the old Press Corps a little more. Caroline
sometimes had to be a little Mama bear though like
she she had, you know, they came after sometimes. So
I think you need to have a little bit of
that mix it up with people capability, which not everybody
who's a broadcaster does.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
By the way, Uh, taking this in a different direction
for a second, we got some funny talkbacks. I knew
that I was wondering when I was going to get
this one. Uh, apparently we're not going to get sponsored
by super U here.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
On the program. Oh it's very funny. The podcast listener
Jane from Wisconsin, play it you.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Guys, quit hating on women's Subaru owners. I just bought
my third Subaru and I'm nowhere near being a lesbian.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
No one's hating on super Us. I'm just you know,
there's some people say, some people say.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I would just.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Say, to wiscons communities, can we play Jane from Wisconsin
one more time?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
D you guys quit hating on women's SUPERU owners. I
just bought my third Super U and I'm nowhere near
being a lesbian.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I would just say to Jane, you're pretty near being
a lesbian if you're driving a super U, I would say, I.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Would say that. Actually, Like, I mean, am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
If you pull up next to somebody who is driving
a Super U and it's a woman by herself, are
you telling me you don't think for a minute, well
you must be a lesbian.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I I'm pleading the fifth right now.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I mean, I would say I'll continue it. By the way,
if you see a woman what are those shoes called
the Birkenstocks. Oh yeah, If you see a woman in
the Birkenstocks, odds are pretty high that she might be
a lesbian.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
So I'm just saying, if you.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
The Birkenstocks plus the super Ru, you might as well
just go ahead.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Maybe she just likes the band Fish or the grateful dead.
By the way, he says that there are always exceptions.
There is, for example, and I'm not trying to offend
the softball community here, not that they should be offended,
because not that there's anything wrong with that, but there
is in some people's minds an association with the lgbt
(09:35):
community of women and playing softball. There's some people think
that there tends to be this, But Caroline Levitt, who
is quite feminine and lovely and would not be considered
to be a member of the LGBTQ community, was a
softball player in college.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
So you can't.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
It's never one hundred percent unless you own a cult
nineteen eleven and then you're an old fogie who needs.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
To get a new.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
What if you found out that somebody played softball and
they had w NBA season tickets. Ooh, and they drove
a Super U to the games. No, that's and they
had stocks. I think we can just keep layering on details.
The odds of that being a heterosexual woman are getting
(10:22):
worse and worse. And by the way, I had the
three together, I'm gonna I'm gonna say the betting odds
on that would be prohibitive in one direction too, though
you could probably might be able to uh get that one.
How did this is a fun question, though, How did
Subaru come to be so directly connected to lesbians?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Do you want me to grocket and see it?
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Like, I'm actually I'd like for you to take your
Groc out and see, uh see what the uh see
what the actual desert like? Did they do an advertising campaign?
I mean asking this generally because I do think of
all the vehicles out there, I'm not sure you could
point to a vehicle and say that someone who is
gay a woman is likely to drive it. I don't
(11:04):
even know what number two would be behind a suber.
It's not going to and saw me and say it's
a Tesla. I know this is coming. I'm gonna look
at my mentions. They're gonna be like, yeah, the second
most popular car for lesbians is your Tesla?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
C Can I can I share this with you? Yeah?
I want to know.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
This is what Groc says about the Subaru connotation. It
came from deliberate nineteen nineties marketing by Subaru of America,
not organic preference. In the early to mid nineteen nineties,
Subaru's US sales were struggling against larger Japanese brands, the
company shifted towards niche marketing after research showed et cetera,
(11:45):
et cetera, IT professionals and a. So they looked at
groups that would pay a premium for the all wheel drive,
and a consistent standout group was lesbians. Focus groups and
sales data revealed strong lesbian ownership. Lesbians reported several times
(12:06):
more likely than the average US consumer with similar preferences
to buy a super U. Owners cited practical reasons. The
cars are reliable and good for outdoor activities and everyday
use without being oversized or flashy, as well as dependable.
So super U went after the lesbian community as a
(12:26):
marketing tactic.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Apparently I did not know this, so that is great research.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Why though, would they initially have been responding to it.
Do lesbians do more hikes? I'm just I mean, I'm
genuinely curious because we have we have we own a
Jeep Wrangler, right, Jeep Wrangler off road vehicle, easy to maneuver,
(12:54):
not particularly crazy expensive?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Why would the jeep Wrangler not be loved by lesbians
but the Subaru is.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Maybe because of the like military connotation. Of the jeep.
I don't know. Okay, you know that's an interesting take.
I mean, I'll tell you for me.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
The there was the era of the what was that
hideously ugly hybrid car that everyone had for a while,
a Pririus. If you drove a Prius, you were a lib.
I've never met somebody who drove a Prius who was
not a LIB. Now, some of you live in very
red states. Maybe it's different in Kansas than it was
in DC metro area, New York, Massachusetts. These are places
(13:33):
that I lived in the in the Prius era. But
the correlation between Prius owning and Bernie Sanders loving was
really high.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I mean shocking. Oh yeah, no, I think that's true.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
But I'm saying they recognized Subaru, which is what brands do, right,
They recognize.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Who is conceded. You're asking why do they over index
by four x? By the way, other groups Lesbians loved
the Suparu.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yes, so they sub found it started and then they
exploited it. They said, Hey, we got an audience here
that's responding very favorably. And now some poor guy's driving
around in his Subaru that he just got for a
great deal, and he's like, guys.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
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I hope she's not listening. I think my sister in
law drives. Oh, we're gonna get heat. We're gonna get heat.
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talking about.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Meat.
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Speaker 3 (15:47):
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Speaker 2 (16:07):
Eh. Interesting, They always this is like I wear boat shoes.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I don't care that, you know, people say they're like
casual looking or I love boat shoes. Every ten years
they come back big time in style. Every ten years.
People look look at the like topsiders he's wearing, and
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Speaker 7 (16:35):
We're a super U family. I have a super Roo,
my wife has a Super U. But honestly, every time
my wife comes home and I see her pulling in
the garage, I'm like, well, the lesbians home, Mike or Jim.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Very funny. Shawn in Savannah, I talk back.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
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the super Rooe. She is sixteen and is not a lesbian,
but she does affectionately refer to her Subaru as the Lesbiuru,
so even her generation recognizes it.
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That is awesome.
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Actually, the second you get out of New York City,
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We're joined now by our friend Jim Jordan, Congressman from Ohio.
And I'll start off here because I bet you've been following.
(19:07):
What do you think about my goal to have the
most inclusive team in the history of women's basketball? One Huns,
Nashville Balls. Jim Jordan, would you want to come watch,
come visit in Nashville? Would you like to have courtside seats?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I mean, you guys do a great doble on every issue,
every debate that's out there, but this one. You've done
great on this one too. But this is like unbelievable.
I've been we've been driving, Uh just left Michigan, was
up helping the candidate there, Mike Bushard, a great candidate
of ours in the John James Seed, and we were
we were listening to your previous shows this week on
the way up this morning. Yeah, it's just it's just unbelievable. Hilarius.
(19:47):
What what the w NBA? What's the W stand for?
Can you define it? No, we can't, but we're going
to keep trying. Uh. Seems to be the position now
of the league.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Which is.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
You almost had to laugh. If it wasn't so serio,
isn't so ridiculous, you would.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Have to laugh at all when you're on the road.
Because we get a lot of questions about this. Well,
I always say what cuts through is not necessarily the
super nitty gritty details of governance, tax rates, how accounting
is allowed to exist when it comes to corporations, but
(20:21):
things like hey, we have to cancel Thanksgiving, or men
can identify as women in play in a women's basketball league.
Every time I'm out on the road, people want to
come up and talk about those things. I'm curious for
you. You're out on the trail, there's some ninety some odd
days to go. What are people coming up to you
when they see you and they recognize you for what
(20:43):
you do from Congress and Fox News? What are they
talking about to you?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah, I mean Republican voters particularly talking about just how
crazy the left is. And you've just hit it. But
you're right. Reagan always used to talk about in politics,
you got to paint with big bowl colors. You see that,
So instead of in the nitty gritty of every in
every debate, it's like the big bold things and of
course those things stand out. We're against Thanksgiving, we don't
like football, we can't define what a woman is, even
(21:08):
though it's the w NBA, for goodness sake, that just
underscores how how ridiculous the left is. So I think
you're exactly right people, And and you know, Americans have
they got up. We all got a sense of humor.
Americans have common sense and they look at these things
like this is ridiculous. I just came from a fundraising
event and the guy who hosted it for or for
Mike Bouchard was like, I think truly gets it. And
(21:29):
he gave a little little talk of the fun end
and he said, we have to be sensitive and understand
what's going on here because where they want to go,
I mean they will, they will ruin what this country
has always offered its citizens if the Left prevails, if
they win elections and they get their way, and that's
that's I think a key element of this, uh this
upcoming midterm election.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Appreciate you being with us, Congressman, and you know this
madness that we say with the WNBA situation as it
continues to play out, we talked about it a lot here.
You know this is one of these times where the
left makes this a huge issue. The Democrat party has
this as an orthodoxy, and yet every time we refuse
(22:12):
to submit to the crazy, they turn around and say,
why do you care so much? Or why are you
making such a big deal out of this? Do the
Democrats in Congress go along with this stuff because they
believe it or because they're scared of the constituency that
actually does both?
Speaker 4 (22:32):
I mean, it's definitely both. They're a fair number of
that I think are truly truly by into But you're right,
that's the technique they always use. They say, oh, you
Republicans are engaged in the culture wars. No we're not.
We're just for normal We're just for common sense. We
actually think guys should compete against guys in sports and
women should compete against women in sports. Go figure, you're
(22:53):
the ones who are You're the ones engaged in the
cultural sports. But they always then accuse you of you know,
the old line, They accuse you of what they're involved in.
But it's just the left side. I always say, the
left has a template. They will tell a lie, Oh
it's fine to have men and women's sports. They will
tell a lie big media will report the lie. Big
tech then amplifies the lie, and when you tell the truth,
(23:13):
they call you a racist or some other name, and
it plays out time and time again. And so it's
the same with this issue. They'll call you names. Oh,
you culture war creators and all. They're like, no, no, no,
you guys started it. We're just from the common sense position.
I think in the end, the country always sees through
it because most of the country, most Americans have common sense.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
When you look at we're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan,
it appears there's about eighteen seats. I'm curious what your
data would show that are going to decide who controls
Congress on the House side.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
In other words, with.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
All the redistricting having taken place and everything else, when
all the counting is done, there's about eighteen seats. Does
that correspond with the data that you see. How many
actual swing districts do you think are at play about
three months from now?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, it's a relatively small number, and particularly it got
smaller and light of the redistricting that took place. Redistruting
is going to help us. We have good candidates running
most of the retirements that took place on the Republican side,
are in relatively good Republican seeds, so that's in all
those are advantages to us. And then of course then
there's the big thing, which is they've taken all these
(24:26):
crazy positions. So that is the campaign. We got to
go tell voters that we did what we said. We
secured the border, we cut taxes, you know, no tax
on tips, and other great things we did in the
tax but that are positive. We required work for welfare
recipients who are getting your tax money. We're cracking down
on this fraud that took place in many of these
Democrats states, that we're doing what we said we would do.
(24:47):
But also it's important to point out the positions they
have taken are just radical, crazy positions, not to mention
the ones that really just hit voters with I'm against Thanksgiving,
I don't want Thanksgiving, and I don't like football and
every anything else. So that's the campaign. I think it's
not going to be easy out there, but I think
we can win because of all those reasons.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
What happens, Jim, if Democrats just take a majority in
the House, in your mind, are we just because I
want to be clear about what the stakes are here
for anybody who thinks, oh well, as long as Trump
is still in the White House, you know, things will
all be fine. But just so we can make sure
everyone knows who's thinking about voting and especially an important
(25:30):
congressional race as they come up. What happens if Democrats
get that majority.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
They'll investigate everybody. I mean, every cabinet secretary get investigative.
The oversight that they'll do won't be real overset. I'll
just be like going after their you know, the whole
weaponization lawfare. Even though they won't have the Justice Department
because President Trump will still be in the White House.
Of course, they'll have control a converss and a Congress
and all the levers that they can pull there. So
every you know, they'll investigate Rubio, they'll investigate the vice
president because they think they're one of those guys are
(25:57):
going to be our nominee. Course they go after President Trump.
They will, they can't help themselves. They will do a
third impeachment. They'll go after the private sector as well.
And this is this is the scary part. When Democrats
have the power, they use it. I mean, think about
what we just learned and this was the weaponization of
the Justice Department against members of Congress. But they had
this this thing called Round River where they were running
(26:18):
an operation. It wasn't an investigation. They were running an
op saying that that Senator Johnson, Senator Grassley, myself, Devin Nunas,
we were part We were conduits of Russian misinformation when
all we were doing is our legitimate oversight work and
how and looking into how they were trying to help
the FBI was trying to help Joe Biden win the
presidency and we got We were the ones labeled. So
(26:41):
that's how much they're committed to this weaponization, and they
will go after everybody if in fact, they win the midterms.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
You're in the process right now of investigating how New
Jersey manages to put at least six thousand people onto
voting roles. Hundreds of those people went on to vote
in the election that we know of that should not
have been able to vote in these elections. What are
you uncovering? How common do you think this actually is?
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Well, the main takeaway is is, of course, and you
guys have been great to talk about. This is the
underscores why we need to say back, Why why we
need you know, you got to show photo idea, you
got to be a citizen to vote for going to say,
but what we're looking into specifically is Mikey Cheryl said
one thing. The vendor who was who they had contracted
the City of New Jersey contract with, said another thing.
Because Mikey Cheryl tried to blame it on the vendor. Oh,
the only reason that we had non citizen on the
(27:31):
voter rolls and some of them actually participated in election,
which is against the law, was it was the vendor's fault.
It's the person we contract when they said no, no, no,
that's not the case. So we've got letters out to
the vendors saying we want more information, we want the
communications back and forth. So we're trying to dig into
this and find out exactly what happened there, because when
you got two different stories, experience has taught me that
(27:52):
many times the Democrats aren't necessarily being completely square with
the taxpayer. So we're digging into that, and then we're
going to try to see if is this going on elsewhere.
And of course, the one investigation we have where we've
now deposed six people with Act Blue and every single
one of them has taken. The fifth kind of raises
concerns too about what's going on there with foreign contributions
(28:14):
playing in our election system, So we continue to do
that investigation as well.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Congressman, my understanding, it's a Friday, so I don't I
don't want to be a bummer, but everyone knows whenever
I say that, I'm probably about to say something that's
a bit of a bummer. So maybe I should just stop.
Stop with the preamble. We spend a lot of money
as a government. Last month, I think we're setting some records,
and we still have soon or soon to be what
forty trillion in debt coming up here on the horizon.
(28:41):
Is this just is the runaway train now just fully
broken away, and there's nothing to be done about this
because I don't even hear anyone talking about trying to
cut any spending in a meaningful way.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Yeah, we're going to have to This math is math,
you know. Earlier this year, I actually the start of
this year, back in January, there was a front page
story in the Wall Street Journal said this United States
Senate class will be the first class that will have
to deal with the situation. You're describing and specifically it
was related to social security because projections are there's going
to be a shortball in six years, you know, a
(29:12):
Senate term, So we're gonna have to the day is coming. Now.
What's helping us the course is with the greatest thing gone,
you know, the greatest country and history, greatest economy and history,
where we're still the biggest kid on the block. But
this debt is real. We're gonna have to address it,
and we'll do it in a way to make sure
we honor the promise and commitment to social security because
it's people's money. But we're gonna have to deal with this,
(29:33):
and it's the day of reckoning is coming. But yeah,
it's uh, there are people talking about it. We you know,
certainly as conservatives have talked about this, but that data
is fast to protein and we're gonna have to We're
gonna to get an answer that protects the promise this
country's made with its people during money after all, but
gal back other spending so that we can do that.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Jim, I know we're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
You guys had me up to testify about that cost
of sports television everything else it was a lot of fun.
I enjoyed it. Question for you and I don't know
who has this committee? Is there a role for Congress
to examine why the WNBA can't tell us what a
woman is and actually put Kathy Engelbert, the commissioner of
(30:18):
the WNBA, under oath and just ask her some of
these basic questions. It's such a huge story, it's everywhere.
I'm not sure what committee would have jurisdiction about over that.
But have you thought about that at all? I mean,
I think again, it crystallizes just how radical and left
wing it is. Can you imagine the Democrat questions they
might ask? I mean, I think it would be pretty
(30:39):
amazing television.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Yeah, I'd love to see Brandon Gill who so he's
going on our committee, who's so good at like kind
of cut into the chase on some of these questions.
Love that Brandon do that. We're looking at a number
of things we may do in September that we think,
you know, highlighted and that are good public policy focus issues,
but also highlight the distinction in common sense and crazy.
So we're looking a number of things. By the way,
(31:01):
when you testified, it was great and as a result
of that that committite, I think we can take a
lot of credit for this, and you certainly can. Is
the NFL change where they were headed with the policy
on making bars and restaurants revamp their entire TV system.
It was going to cost these these small business owners
so much money they decided not to go that way.
And I think it's probably a direct result of the
(31:21):
committee hearing that took place in our in our committee
and frankly your testimony which was very powerful and very
very very persuasive.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I believe, well, thank you.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
And the guy was one of the sports bar owners
was there talking about how much they were going to
have to pay to be able to put on games
in a sports bar so people could come in and watch.
And it is a direct, tangible result that I think
is going to lead to a better outcome than otherwise
would have the hearing that you guys had. Jim, have
a fantastic weekend. We appreciate all your time as always,
(31:51):
and we'll try to keep you entertained as you're traveling
all over the place. We've got we've five hundred and
fifty affiliates, so you can find us most places.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Keep the great where take care.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Thanks you.
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Quickly. Because we've remained to play this.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Abdul Lsayad is in trouble in uh Michigan. This is
Harry Bon saying, Mike Rogers is in the lead. People
do not like Abdul Lsayad. This would be a flip Listen.
Speaker 9 (33:27):
New Fox newspap Rogers is actually up by four points.
He's up by four points. It's close, But a Republican
is a head in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
And why why? What is going on?
Speaker 9 (33:36):
Look among independence Rogers actually leads by five.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
This is extremely unusual.
Speaker 9 (33:40):
Because across the political maps I was looking at these
different Fox newspapers. I couldn't find another example where the
Republican was actually leading among independents.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
It is all about Abdulla.
Speaker 9 (33:51):
He is a weak candidate, at least by the metrics.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
That we normally look at. I looked at all the
Fox newspers.
Speaker 9 (33:56):
All the Democrats were above water except for a duel,
I said, and he has thirteen points underwatered. This is
all about Abdul outside being a weak candidate, at least
in the minds of the voters. I couldn't think of
another example where you actually had a Democratic candidate who
was down at least four points. For this entire century,
abdulah said, is the only one in a poll that
(34:18):
meets CNN standards for publication. This is extremely, extremely, extremely unusual,
Abdulah I said, breaking records in.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
The ways that you don't want to. Okay, I think
he's in trouble. Put a pin in that. I'm sure
we'll be talking about it next week. Poor producer Greg
has been inundated with Subaru takes, including from Hubert in Alabama.
Listen to podcast listening lle Clay.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
Seriously, man, somebody p in your cheerios or something this morning.
I just bought my second Subaru for a hell of
a good deal about three days ago, and now I
got to listen to my favorite radio host who happened
to play flute and go to Civil War sleep away camp.
Give me flak about the cars that I drive. I
love this thing, man, It's awesome. It's reliable, it was affordable.
(35:06):
Get a grip, dude, you know what?
Speaker 1 (35:08):
You know what else is reliable and affordable? Flannel Doc Martin's.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Well, look, I appreciate Hubert down in Alabama. He and
Martina and Nevratilova just have great taste in cars.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Cut twenty five.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Nope, Uh, well it was worth Yeah, it's not there.
She was in a two thousand Subaru at that Just
to be clear, she was a spokesperson.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
That's when they that's when they started to roll all
the lesbians into their into their team, and uh, he's
got it.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Hit it.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
What do I know about the Trumans?
Speaker 4 (35:49):
What do I know about the Trull?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
What do I know about grip?
Speaker 8 (36:02):
Were differential?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
All right? We get without seeing them.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
It's Martina Navratilovan in two thousand and half for Subaru
Katie from Eureka, California, and hit this one a quick with.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
The fish reference.
Speaker 7 (36:13):
I am dead.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Have you ever been to the MSG shows?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
You and Carrie have to catch one?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Seriously?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Apparently Fee was a Buddhist prodigy. So I know a
little bit about fish. I can tell you. I went
to camp in Vermont, and I know people that like
to smoke the Mary Jane, So yes, Fish, I am
familiar with it.
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I'm an idiot, and uh, she hates.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I think she means me, you didn't need to. I'm
the Super Bowl play. You are arrogant and stupid. I
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