November 11, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a powerful blend of political analysis, veteran tributes, and cultural commentary, anchored by a compelling interview with Medal of Honor recipient Dakota Meyer. This Veterans Day edition continues the show’s patriotic theme, spotlighting Meyer’s heroic actions in Afghanistan during the Battle of Ganjgal, where he repeatedly risked his life to rescue fellow Marines under heavy enemy fire. Meyer reflects on the mission, the loss of his team, and the importance of honoring the sacrifices made by service members.
The hour also dives deep into the political fallout from the recent government shutdown. Clay and Buck dissect the Democratic Party’s internal divisions, highlighting the backlash against eight Senate Democrats—including Dick Durbin, Tim Kaine, and John Fetterman—who voted with Republicans to reopen the government. The hosts mock media figures like Don Lemon and Sonny Hostin for their outrage over the perceived capitulation, framing the shutdown resolution as a win for President Donald Trump and a sign of Democratic disarray.
A standout moment features a fiery exchange between Sonny Hostin and Senator John Fetterman on The View, where Fetterman defends his pragmatic stance on reopening the government. Clay and Buck praise Fetterman as a rare voice of sanity within the Democratic Party, contrasting him with the “AOC-Mamdani wing,” which they criticize as ideologically extreme. They argue that Fetterman’s moderate approach reflects the political reality of representing a purple state like Pennsylvania and call for more rational Democrats willing to prioritize governance over partisanship.
In the latter part of the hour, Dakota Meyer returns to discuss broader issues affecting veterans, including the need for evolving support systems that reflect the realities of today’s service members. He emphasizes the importance of fulfilling promises to Afghan allies while expressing frustration over the lack of resistance from Afghan forces during the U.S. withdrawal. Meyer also shares his views on masculinity, gender roles, and the cultural shift in America, advocating for strong male leadership and the protection of women’s rights. He criticizes the politicization of science and the erosion of objective truth, citing examples like Neil deGrasse Tyson’s comments on gender differences.
The hour also includes a fascinating listener call from a man whose father was reportedly driving the car during General George Patton’s fatal accident, offering a firsthand rebuttal to conspiracy theories surrounding Patton’s death. This leads into a teaser for an upcoming conversation with Bill O’Reilly about the topic.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well back in Veterans Day edition of the program. We
appreciate all of you hanging out with us as.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
We are rolling through. As we are rolling.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Through the Tuesday Veterans Day edition of the program, I
am alive in a new studio and if you just
were watching on video and saw me turn to the right,
it's because at any given moment, anything can happen, anything
can fall in the studio. But all is well, and
we are getting a ton of fantastic calls from so
(00:33):
many of you talking about a variety of different topics.
We've talked about Scott Bessant and the economy. We've talked
about Schumer and whether or not he's in trouble as
the shutdown is now over, and I thought we could
have some fun here in hour three and we'll continue
to take your calls because you guys are calling in
with some fantastic takes here on Veterans Day. And we're
(00:56):
going to be joined by Medal of Honor recipient to
Cooda Meyer at the bottom of this hour, which should
be pretty outstanding. But buck Democrats are in such disarray
that right now Don Lemon and Sonny Houstin are losing
their minds over the shutdown ending, and I do think
(01:19):
it's worth mentioning for everybody out there. Remember that they
were telling us just a couple of days ago, everyone
is basically gonna die because snap is not going out
to everyone that is the meals, And oh my goodness,
how in the world can we deal with the with
(01:40):
all of this not being back open.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Remember that was only a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
So then Democrats decide, you know what, let's go ahead
and we'll open back up the government. Eight Senate Democrats
decide that they're willing to support that, and suddenly all
of the dire consequences from the government being shut down
are gone, and.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Instead everybody is just furious.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And by everybody, I mean even people like Don Lemon
and Sonny Houston. So let's start with Don Lemon angry
at the Democrats for bending the knee to King Donald
and opening back up the government.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Look, don't let us spend you the Democrats caved. People
have been asking me with Democrats caved, I want to know,
we need to know. Okay, So these are the Democrats
who voted to cave to the Republicans. Eight Democrats senators
are Dick Durban, Maggie Hassan, Angus King, Catherine Cortez Masco,
Tim Kaine, Jean Shaheen, Jackie Rosen, and John Fetterman. They
(02:44):
joined the fifty two Republicans in this procedural vote to
reopen the government without a guaranteed extension of health care subsidies.
Just a promise to pick it up and maybe vote
on it and just come on down.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
All right, don Lemon's unhappy. Let me hit you with
where those senators are from, because I don't think it's
a coincidence. Jeene Shaheen and Maggie Hassan, New Hampshire Senator
Tim Kaine Virginia. Remember Senator Tim Kaine famously buck Hillary
Clinton's running mate. He is still in the Senate, still
in Virginia. I know nobody's really talked about him since
(03:23):
Senate Minority Whip Dick Durman of Illinois, number two Democrat,
he is retiring. Fetterman and Pennsylvania Cortes Mastow and Jackie
Rosen of Nevada, a state that Trump won by five points.
And I don't think it's a surprise that they would
be nervous about what might be coming down the pike.
As Nevada looks like maybe a state that is moving
(03:44):
much more significantly into the red column going forward. Now, also,
Sonny Houston was angry, and we've got a fun go
back and forth argument coming up between Sonny Houston and
John Fetterman in a moment. But first, Sonny high angry
that Democrats have eight of them that we just named
have voted to open along with the independent that could
(04:07):
caucuses with the Democrats, Angus King of Maine, that they
have voted eight of them did to open back up
the government.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Listen, this was a choice by Republicans to cut SNAP benefits.
This was a choice by Republicans to cut ACA subsidies.
This was a choice by the Republicans to cut the
federal government and federal employment. Democrats had nothing to do
with it. I want an opposition party. I think the
Democrats caved. I think the Democrats let down the American people,
(04:34):
and like you, you'll be I have absolutely no faith
that the Republican Party will come to the negotiating table
in good faith.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
I hope she becomes the chief strategist of the Democrat Party.
I really would love to see Sonny Houston as the
person making the big calls for Democrats going forward, because
I think you have to give credit where it's due.
She is world class when it comes to bitterness and
also a complete and utter lack of tactics and wisdom
(05:10):
when it comes to politics. So yeah, let's let's have
Sunny Hostin be the one who determines what the Democrat
Party is going to do. The Democrats caused the shutdown.
People figured that out this time. Yeah, there was not
some way they were going to make this the Republican's
fault the way that they have been able to in
the past. And so their big enemy here was reality.
(05:31):
The enemy was just the obvious, and that is often
the case with Democrats, but this time around they weren't
able to get around that with just endless propaganda.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
No doubt. And speaking of endless propaganda, are good friend?
Sunny hoston the woman that Buck would like to be
in charge of all Democrat messaging.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Boy, would that be fun.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
John Fetterman was on the view and Sonny Hostin and
John Fetterman aka the current Sanis Democrat in the country,
went at it over Federman's consistent votes to reopen the government.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Here is what that sounded like.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Poll after poll found more Americans on both sides of
the aisle blaming Republicans. Even Marjorie Taylor Green blamed the GOP.
As you mentioned, Democrats have big wins last week, so
you had momentum.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Why give in? Now?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Why bring a butter knife to a gunfight. Are you
willing to gamble that the golpas will negotiate on healthcare
in good faith once the government reopens, because if that
gamble is wrong, half a million Pennsylvanians that you represent,
their healthcare cost will skyrocket if you are wrong, and
I believe you are wrong.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
Well, for first of all, MTG is quite literally the
last person in America that I'm going to take advice
or to get their kinds of my leadership and values.
And now if Democrats are celebrating crazy pants like that,
then that's on them. And I don't need a lecture.
I don't need a lecture from whether it's Bernie or
the governor in California, because they are representing very deep
(06:59):
blue kinds of populations and a lot of those things,
a lot of those things were part of the extreme.
And I'll remember what really needs to win. To win,
the big win is involving my state and other states
and those things, and why have we arrived here after
the election a year ago. We want to forget, we
got to forget. Some of the things that cost us
(07:20):
that election are now for me. That's why I'm trying
to remind people that kinds of the extremism, we can't
return to those kind of things and realize we need
to find a way forward.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Would you have ever believed I've said it on the
program before, but I do think it's worth reiterating. I
think the thing that I was most wrong about on
the program in terms of analyzing people, I thought that
John Fetterman was going to be the most disastrous senator
in the entire country. After watching that campaign against doctor Oz,
(07:54):
I still wish Pennsylvania had voted for doctor Oz. I
still think that would be better if there were a
Republican in that seat. Having said that, John Fetterman is
wrong on some things, but he's right on a lot
and he's actually emerged as an articulate voice for sanity
on the Democrat side. And there's not even any competition
(08:17):
that I can see for a sane take. And I
know we didn't play it, but I give credit to
Dave McCormick, who we've had on this program a lot,
for working with Fetterman, and for Fetterman being consistent in
the belief that shutting down the government didn't make any sense,
and being one of the same Democrats voting for a
long time to reopen the government. So, you know, are
(08:41):
there lots of things that I would disagree with John
Fetterman on. Yes, But if there were thirty five more
Sean Fetterman John Fetterman's would the country be in a
better place? I think yes, because at least they're rational, insane,
and willing to work through something, as opposed to the
AOC mom Donnie wing of the Democrat Party, which is
(09:01):
just broken brained and has no legitimate ideas for rational
thought on any basis.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
I think we've been very fair in the way that Fetterman,
after he became a Senator has spoken about things. His
voting record is a little more of a concern because
he votes with the crazies a lot of the time,
not surprising for a Democrat, but he's I think, I
think we should never lose sight of that. But he
(09:28):
certainly has said more reasonable things about more issues than
pretty much any other Senate Democrat I could think of
I might be leaving somebody out, but he has He
has been care i say, a voice of reason within
the Democrat Party on a whole range of things, certainly
(09:49):
on Israel, but also on the on the border. Uh
and and he has been somebody who does not play
the game the way that many anticipated he would, which
would be to just say the whatever the mandatory maxims
of the left may be in the moment, he has
not gone along with that. Now, maybe this is because
(10:09):
he's in a purple state, a red purple state, and
he wants to have a long career and doesn't want
to go to crazy town.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
This is like, you know, I don't want anyone on
the right.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Giving us a hard time, for example, about Susan Collins,
because it's like she's probably the best you're gonna do
for a main senator, given that you know she's as
good as Susan Collins for Maine, that's as good as
you're going to get. I don't think you're going to
have somebody who is much more reliable as a Republican
in that state. So Fetterman, in a sense, is also
(10:41):
reflective of the state that he represents in so far
as he's not hard left. It's not New York, it's
not California.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I think also to your point, yes, he's being rational
because he is in a toss up state. You know
who's not Warnock and Assaf in Georgia. So yes, he's
in a purple state, and that is a rational choice.
Mark Kelly and Diego in Arizona are both Democrats and
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a state that Trump won by five points, and they.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Didn't vote to end the shutdown. So even in states.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Where you would argue it is in the rational self
interest of Democrats to not be left wingers like Arizona,
Like Frankly, Georgia states that Trump won in Heck, Michigan
states that Trump one that still have double Democrat Senate representation.
(11:38):
It is a sign of progress for Fetterman, but also
it illuminates the futility of other rational Democrats to join him.
And just again to your point, he disagrees with the
Republicans on a ton but on should the government stay open,
which is kind of a fundamental question. It seems pretty
significant that we should stay open. And now that this
(12:01):
shutdown has been resolved, Buck, I do.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Think we can spin this forward.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
If we have decided that for Supreme Court justices, a
simple majority can get somebody on the Supreme Court, right,
why would we not have a conversation about not allowing
a minority party to shut down the government?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Should it?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
If you have a majority, you not have to get
to sixty votes to keep the government open. I understand
this idea of the filibuster is important, and I think
it's important when it comes to things like, hey, should
we make Puerto Rico a state? Should we make Washington
d C?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Estate?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Should we expand the Supreme Court? Those are really significant
issues that I think you should have to get to
sixty on. I would say this if Democrats had control
of the government too. I don't think it's smart to
allow the government to be shut down until sixty senators
will vote for the government to be back open. Because
(12:59):
my concern, and is all we've really seen in this
forty day test case, is there aren't really very many
consequences for shutting down the government. Democrats want to keep
the government shut down, why would they not do this
during the twenty twenty eight election cycle or during the
twenty twenty six election cycle. If they have the ability
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to do so, and they see it as politically beneficial
even if they don't have control of Congress.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Like if I had to rank the significance of a
Supreme Court justice or a government shut down, Supreme Court
justice feels far more significant to me. I think we
need to eliminate this loophole in my opinion, and stop
the government from being able to be shut down in
this method.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yeah, I don't think you should be able to hold
the funding of the government hostage for any pet issue
you decide you want to make some big problem of
that to me seems like not what the system should
be allowing.
Speaker 8 (13:58):
We'll see.
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the dad that was driving?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
You've John and yeah, John, And Kim Hockey says, we
had a caller who said that there's the conspiracy out
there about exactly what happened. Did Patton die in the
traffic accident or not? You say your dad was driving
the car when Patten was killed, When he died in
the car.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Accident, yes, he was Okay, Well, what did your dad
tell you about that?
Speaker 6 (16:20):
He actually died nine days later. He was driving a
thirty eight Cadillac Lemo and Patton was sitting in the
back on the edge of the seat as usual, and
they were waiting for a train to pass, and he
in a pass. He pulled away, got up to about
twenty five miles an hour, and there was a personnel
carrier about a quarter mile down the road that pulled
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out at the same time. And when they got to
each other, the personnel carrier turned right into the Cadillac,
and Patton flew forward, hit his forehead on the partition
between the front and back, scalped his you know, put
to the scalp himself and broke his neck.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And so from.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Europe perspective, your dad told you there is no conspiracy there.
It's for people out there that have bought not believe
that this was a traffic accident and it was a
freak accident in some way based on the speed the
Patten died.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
Yeah, I did never talked about any conspiracies about it
or anything like that. But I mean there's three junk
tis that all disappeared, you know, they were they were
in the personnel carrier, and uh, you know Patton was
starting to do a lot better and then he died
just all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Well thank you, that's an well, that's thank you for
the call, and thank for your thank you for your
dad's service.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
It's kind of crazy, Buck.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
We say, hey, there's a conspiracy out there about how
Patton died in a car accident, and we're going to
talk about that with Bill O'Reilly. And then one of
our listeners calls in and said, oh yeah, it was
my dad driving the car. Uh, there's nothing to it.
You can grab that and we'll ask Bill O'Reilly about it.
You and I both said, hey, we're not super sophisticated
when it comes to knowledge on that story.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
So thanks for the call.
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Speaker 1 (18:56):
Where are joined now by Dakota Meyer, Medal of Honor
receive recipient, And we're gonna get into a bunch of
different stories, but we appreciate you making the time and
appreciate all your service. I thought we would just start.
I know you've got the Medal of Honor. I haven't
heard you tell a story about how that Medal of
Honor came to be. I believe it was in Afghanistan
(19:20):
about a little bit less than twenty years ago. Can
you share with us the story of what happened that
that led to you becoming a Medal of Honor recipient?
Speaker 10 (19:29):
Yeah, no, thanks so much for having me. It's an honor.
Speaker 11 (19:32):
No.
Speaker 10 (19:33):
I was in Afghanistan. I was part of an embedded
training team in two thousand and nine and basically we
have this four US Nadie Afghans on a base and
our job was to mentor to train to and to
kind of you know, teach them our tactics and things
like that. And so we gone in. We're going to
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run this mission into a place called the Ganggol Valley.
There's gonna be a big mission, a bunch of teams
coming together. I was on a team with Lieutenant Johnson,
Gunny Kennefick, and Doc Layton. And then so we're gone
in this this We go down this valley, we meet up,
we get our mission brief, and then the next morning
we go and start, you know, to perform this patrol.
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And I was left with the vehicles and I was
replaced with a guy named Gunnery Sarn Johnson. And so,
as you know, they they entered the village. It's it's
the typical story of that we'd been set up and so, uh,
they'd been set up and gunfights started, and my team
ended up getting cut off by the enemy and separated
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from the rest of the group. And so, after hearing
the you know over the radio how dire the situation was,
myself and a driver knew we had to do something.
So we took the gun truck that we were in
and we made multiple trips in the valley trying to
get the team out and then you know, after five
or six hours, we ended up we lost contact with them,
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and then finally located them and they all being killed.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
Wow, And then could please continue on? So that what
at that point? What did you? What did you do, Dakota.
Speaker 10 (21:10):
Push recovered the bodies and brought them back out, you know,
fought our way back out and then uh, yeah, I
stayed there for another few months and then came home
after that.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
That's an extraordinary story. I'm wondering, Dakota. There's a few
things we wanted to talk to you about today, including
how we're caring for and how we're keeping the sacred
promise to our veterans after their service, veterans like yourself
and the millions of others who serve, particularly in the
in the g Watt era of Iroq and Afghanistan who
have come out. But were you what was your thought
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when the Biden administration had the pullout from Afghanistan, a
place where you saw considerable combat and the folded the
Afghan because you were effectively involved in training Afghan units
right at one point? Were you surprised and how it
all ended in Afghanistan? Or was that along with what
(22:04):
your expectations were.
Speaker 10 (22:06):
Yeah, I mean, we should have pulled out of Afghanistan.
I mean, you know, we should have pulled Afghanistan a
long time ago, you know. I mean, the only thing
I'll say about the pull out of Afghanistan is thank
God that that somebody did it. Outside of that, you know,
I definitely we all can have some opinions on how
it went down and things like that. But I mean, look,
I mean, how how much longer I look at the
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end of the day. What I am so thankful for
is that not another service member is dying in that
country right now. You know, we we've got to change
up the way that we fight wars. I mean, We've
got like that's that's the real problem to.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
This whole thing. Uh.
Speaker 10 (22:40):
You know, I don't know. I don't know what would
have been a great way to pull out of Afghanistan.
But I'm just thankful that that that we did.
Speaker 8 (22:48):
But I'm all. I was also particularly curse to Coda
about your assessment.
Speaker 10 (22:51):
No.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
I was in country with the CIA in god two
thousand and nine or tw ten, sorry two thousand than ten, uh,
and I was looking at all the assessments that the
four star was getting and it looked bleak in twenty ten.
To your point about pulling out sooner, when the Afghans
that we had trained a mentor for so long just
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didn't fight, I mean they just there was no fight
against the Taliban. Was that along with your expectations or
was that a surprise?
Speaker 10 (23:20):
I mean, I mean absolutely, But this is like, this
is more My frustration part is with you know, everybody
advocating for Look. I brought my interpreter over, and I
think that anybody we made a promise to we should
one hundred percent, you know, fulfill that promise. But here's
here's where my stance is on this thing. Look, bring
any of the women and children over, but you're if
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you're a military age male, you don't get to come
to the United States because you don't get to live
off the freedom on the backs of our service members.
You need to fight for your own. Coming here is
not going to be what's going to fix your country.
We need people that are going to fight for what's right.
We stood over there and our people were dying for
twenty some years to try to help them build up
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their country, to help build up an infrastructure and you know,
what are we going to do?
Speaker 12 (24:08):
Right?
Speaker 10 (24:08):
I mean, what are we going to do?
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Yeah, I wanted to ask you one more thing da
coda before we transition actually into something else, the fight
for gender rights that I know that you are, or
rather just for gender which Clay and I definitely want
to talk to you about because that's something we talk
about a lot here on the show. But as it
is Veterans Day, how are we doing in your mind
of honoring, supporting, and keeping the promise of the American
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people to our veterans given the wars that we've been
fighting in the operational tempo that many of them have seen.
Speaker 10 (24:43):
Yeah, I mean I think that first off, I don't
know that there's a country on the face of the
planet that loves their veterans or takes care of their
veterans better than the United States of America. You know, Look,
the Vietnam generation made sure that our generation would never
deal with that again, right. They fought so hard to
make sure that that that wasn't going to happen over again.
(25:03):
You know, I think I think obviously there's more to do.
I think that we can always do more, We could
do better. But I'll tell you what I don't I
don't think is I don't think it's not from the
lack of trying or effort. I just think that that
we've got to evolve the way that we're doing things right.
I think that we've got to evolve the services. You know,
we've got to make things current as to what the
(25:26):
needs of today's veterans are and not what they were
ten years ago, you know what I mean. Like, I
think that's kind of where we're at right now. I
do think that there's tons of things out there, but
I think we could always do better, for.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Sure, Dakota, I know again, thanks for your service. I
know you're doing work with our friend Jennifer C. Jennifer Say,
who has a great company xxx y, and you're motivated
because you have a couple of daughters. I know the
Olympic Committee right now is saying, hey, we're going to
adjust gender policy. Would you have ever believe growing up
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that we'd be in a position where you would have
to say, hey, men can't compete in women's sports, and
that that would be considered in any way a controversial
opinion to have.
Speaker 10 (26:12):
No, it's crazy, I mean, it's absolutely insane. I think
I think what made me really realize how insane it
had gotten was whenever President Trump got you know, he
got sworn in, and his first executive order was that
there's only two genders. I mean it's crazy. Yeah, it is, right,
I mean, like like it's it's crazy because we all
know it, and even the people who are trying to
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pretend that it's not we all know it. We all
know it. And no, it's absolutely insane. But I'll tell you,
and obviously you were in Afghanistan. You know, name a
country that's thriving or that's doing good that doesn't respect
its women.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, it's I mean, I've said Dakota. It's actually interesting
in that way. You can look at Women's World Cup
soccer matches and you can almost pick the winner just
by determining which country has more rights for women. And
I wish that our soccer team had been more aggressive
in making that case, because I mean, it's not going
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to shock you, but if you can't wear shorts, you're
probably gonna have difficulty being one of the best women's
soccer players of all time. I would just toss out there,
and sadly that's the case in a bunch of countries.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
It's tough to play soccer and a burker for sure, Yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 10 (27:25):
Yeah I've never tried, but yeah, it definitely looks tough,
you know. But but I just think, you know, but
I do want to like put the blame where the
blame goes, right, So the blame is absolutely men, right,
we have weak men. Every problem we have in this
country is because of weak men. Period, part stop, every
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problem we have is because of weak men. And until
we start policing our own until until we stop and
we start fighting this idea of toxic masculinity. Masculinity is
desperately needed right now. Mat toxic, but masculinity is for sure.
And look, there's no bigger feminists on the face of
the planet than a father of daughters, Like I want
my daughters to be able to have any experience they
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want to be as equal. They have equal rights to
any other human being on the face of the planet.
But what I don't want them to be is I
don't want them to be equally valued as man. They
should be held up at a higher value because they
are sacred. They are sacred. Women are sacred. That's the
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reason they carry kids, the reason they reproduced right, like
they are sacred and very very valuable, and we must
protect that.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
These individuals who are making this argument that I don't
know how many of these you've seen, for example, Dakota,
but you even had esteemed scientists Clay what was his name,
Neil the Grass Tyson, thank you, who went on Bill
Mahers show. And when Bill Maher looked at him and said,
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we all know that men have a biological a physical
advantage in size, strength, speed over women. Right, this scientist,
this man of science, said why I do not know that?
Speaker 8 (29:10):
What? What is that? How does that happen in society?
Speaker 10 (29:14):
Well, I mean you have to think about this. Everything
has been weaponized, right Like, it's not about facts. Everything
has become when when you take and this is this
is where it starts to come in. You know, have
you heard this concept where people think, well, everything's gray. No,
it's not, because you know what happens in the gray.
There is nothing everything is. Everything is subjective, it's not objective.
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There's no right and wrong, there's no accountability, there's no
win or lass. I mean, and that's what's happened. Is
is is you know how you change the truth one
word at a time, one word at a time. And
that's what they're doing. And in this gray areas where depression,
where anxiety live. And you know how you get gray.
Let's go back to art class. You take black and
white and you mix it together until there's no definitive
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color but between the two and you get gray. Everything
in the world is black and white everything. That's the
only way you get better. It's the only way that
there is there is empowerment is when there is right
and wrong, good and evil like, and that is the way.
That's the only way to get through things like that's
the only way to become better people. That's the only
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way for a civilization to still thrive, for societies to exist,
is if there are those lines so that the parameters
that people can live in.
Speaker 11 (30:30):
Right.
Speaker 10 (30:30):
And so you know, these people that don't want to
do this, and that's what they're doing is now they
have gone at and they're going at everything. I mean,
it's going at at everything that we have. There's no
I mean, they started in sports, right, And you know
what the worst part of it is, the worst part
of it is this is that how many women name
name the women that have called came to men's sports
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and that are there that are trying to take titles
from men.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, it doesn't exist, of course.
Speaker 11 (30:57):
Yeah, yeah, because it's weak men who can't copeede against men,
They're going over to women and getting in their sports
and competing against women. We is absolutely insane and the
sheer fact. And so when you go back to the
original question you ask me, I mean, it's kind of
like our doctors, right, Like when the people who are
writing who are who are you know, selling the prescriptions,
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are writing.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
The the protocols for the doctors, Well, guess what you're
guess what you're gonna have. You're not going to have
doctors who are free thinking and who are making medical
treatments better and who are going out and trying to
make people better. They're going to have people who are
just managing, managing the you know, the the protocols. You
(31:43):
don't have doctors. You have people managing the protocols, scientists.
Like everything is agenda, it's all it's all subjective. And
so yeah, I mean, look, this guy is standing back
because he doesn't want to take a stance, because at
any point in time that he takes a stance or
makes a statement of something, of what something is or
what something isn't, then he has to be prepared to
defend it, and we don't have people who are willing
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to stand up and defend things like that.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Well said, thank you for your service, Dakota, Thank you
for continuing to speak out for truth, honesty, and frankly
basic human sanity. Good luck with those girls, and I
hope you have a good Veterans Day, sir.
Speaker 10 (32:20):
Thank you so much. Have a good day.
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Speaker 8 (33:53):
Its Veterans Day.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I want to say thank you to all of the
veterans across America. We cruly thank you from the bottom
of the heart. Thank you for your service. We have
so many of you who listened to this show. It
is a great honor that you spend your time with us,
and that you trust us to speak honestly about issues,
including of war and peace and national security. We have
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so many write again, Clay and call again with their
own stories of family service. Just there's so many of them.
We wish you to get them all. Here we go
VIP email from Jessica. My grandfather was one of the
cormen that pulled the former President Bush out of the
water when his plane went down. He served on nine
different ships. William Hersey of New Hampshire. So very cool.
(34:38):
We're getting so many of these, Syracuse. This is Talkback
d D play this one.
Speaker 8 (34:47):
Clay and Buck. Before it was Veterans Day, it was
Armisless Day.
Speaker 10 (34:52):
And my great great aunt was the one that carried
the flag through Paris when the surrender happened at the
end of World War One.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Very cool.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I should mention we were talking about Patton, my great uncle,
So my grandmother's brothers.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
They served, and.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Patton once stopped in front of him Buck and asked
if he had gotten to kill any Germans yet, And
when he said no, he was a young guy who
had just gotten overseas into Europe, he said, you're gonna
get your chance, which he loved telling that story.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
And that is a pretty cool story.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Let's see, Margaret, Let's go, Teresa and san Antonio fire away.
Speaker 12 (35:36):
I'm going to give a shout out and a thank
you to the veteran who called in and with the
story about Omar Bradley at Fort Bliss, and I'm wondering
if he ever met my dad. I grew up around
Fort Bliss because my dad was a retired Air Force
colonel and then moved to El Paso. We were at
Fort Bliss all the time, and my dad became friends
with General Bradley. And I was a little girl, but
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I would go to lunch with because during the summer,
my dad would take me to the pool. We'd meet
General Bradley at the Officers Club, eat lunch, and then
I'd go swimming with my dad. And I wish I
had understood then who he was, but I remember my
dad talking to him. General Bradley was so sweet to me.
He would hold my hand. I could still picture him
(36:19):
in his wheelchair and he would hold my hand and
talk to me and ask me questions about school. And
if I'd only known, you know what questions to ask him,
But I heard the gentleman call in that he had
had lunch with him at Fort Bliss. I wonder if
he ever knew my dad, but it was acazing experience.
My dad ended up getting close to her.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Thank you, Thank you for that story, so many amazing stories.
Thank you to all the veterans we
Well back in Veterans Day edition of the program. We
appreciate all of you hanging out with us as.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
We are rolling through. As we are rolling.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Through the Tuesday Veterans Day edition of the program, I
am alive in a new studio and if you just
were watching on video and saw me turn to the right,
it's because at any given moment, anything can happen, anything
can fall in the studio. But all is well, and
we are getting a ton of fantastic calls from so
(00:33):
many of you talking about a variety of different topics.
We've talked about Scott Bessant and the economy. We've talked
about Schumer and whether or not he's in trouble as
the shutdown is now over, and I thought we could
have some fun here in hour three and we'll continue
to take your calls because you guys are calling in
with some fantastic takes here on Veterans Day. And we're
(00:56):
going to be joined by Medal of Honor recipient to
Cooda Meyer at the bottom of this hour, which should
be pretty outstanding. But buck Democrats are in such disarray
that right now Don Lemon and Sonny Houstin are losing
their minds over the shutdown ending, and I do think
(01:19):
it's worth mentioning for everybody out there. Remember that they
were telling us just a couple of days ago, everyone
is basically gonna die because snap is not going out
to everyone that is the meals, And oh my goodness,
how in the world can we deal with the with
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all of this not being back open.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Remember that was only a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
So then Democrats decide, you know what, let's go ahead
and we'll open back up the government. Eight Senate Democrats
decide that they're willing to support that, and suddenly all
of the dire consequences from the government being shut down
are gone, and.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Instead everybody is just furious.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And by everybody, I mean even people like Don Lemon
and Sonny Houston. So let's start with Don Lemon angry
at the Democrats for bending the knee to King Donald
and opening back up the government.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Look, don't let us spend you the Democrats caved. People
have been asking me with Democrats caved, I want to know,
we need to know. Okay, So these are the Democrats
who voted to cave to the Republicans. Eight Democrats senators
are Dick Durban, Maggie Hassan, Angus King, Catherine Cortez Masco,
Tim Kaine, Jean Shaheen, Jackie Rosen, and John Fetterman. They
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joined the fifty two Republicans in this procedural vote to
reopen the government without a guaranteed extension of health care subsidies.
Just a promise to pick it up and maybe vote
on it and just come on down.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
All right, don Lemon's unhappy. Let me hit you with
where those senators are from, because I don't think it's
a coincidence. Jeene Shaheen and Maggie Hassan, New Hampshire Senator
Tim Kaine Virginia. Remember Senator Tim Kaine famously buck Hillary
Clinton's running mate. He is still in the Senate, still
in Virginia. I know nobody's really talked about him since
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Senate Minority Whip Dick Durman of Illinois, number two Democrat,
he is retiring. Fetterman and Pennsylvania Cortes Mastow and Jackie
Rosen of Nevada, a state that Trump won by five points.
And I don't think it's a surprise that they would
be nervous about what might be coming down the pike.
As Nevada looks like maybe a state that is moving
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much more significantly into the red column going forward. Now, also,
Sonny Houston was angry, and we've got a fun go
back and forth argument coming up between Sonny Houston and
John Fetterman in a moment. But first, Sonny high angry
that Democrats have eight of them that we just named
have voted to open along with the independent that could
(04:07):
caucuses with the Democrats, Angus King of Maine, that they
have voted eight of them did to open back up
the government.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Listen, this was a choice by Republicans to cut SNAP benefits.
This was a choice by Republicans to cut ACA subsidies.
This was a choice by the Republicans to cut the
federal government and federal employment. Democrats had nothing to do
with it. I want an opposition party. I think the
Democrats caved. I think the Democrats let down the American people,
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and like you, you'll be I have absolutely no faith
that the Republican Party will come to the negotiating table
in good faith.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
I hope she becomes the chief strategist of the Democrat Party.
I really would love to see Sonny Houston as the
person making the big calls for Democrats going forward, because
I think you have to give credit where it's due.
She is world class when it comes to bitterness and
also a complete and utter lack of tactics and wisdom
(05:10):
when it comes to politics. So yeah, let's let's have
Sunny Hostin be the one who determines what the Democrat
Party is going to do. The Democrats caused the shutdown.
People figured that out this time. Yeah, there was not
some way they were going to make this the Republican's
fault the way that they have been able to in
the past. And so their big enemy here was reality.
(05:31):
The enemy was just the obvious, and that is often
the case with Democrats, but this time around they weren't
able to get around that with just endless propaganda.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
No doubt. And speaking of endless propaganda, are good friend?
Sunny hoston the woman that Buck would like to be
in charge of all Democrat messaging.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Boy, would that be fun.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
John Fetterman was on the view and Sonny Hostin and
John Fetterman aka the current Sanis Democrat in the country,
went at it over Federman's consistent votes to reopen the government.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Here is what that sounded like.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Poll after poll found more Americans on both sides of
the aisle blaming Republicans. Even Marjorie Taylor Green blamed the GOP.
As you mentioned, Democrats have big wins last week, so
you had momentum.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Why give in? Now?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Why bring a butter knife to a gunfight. Are you
willing to gamble that the golpas will negotiate on healthcare
in good faith once the government reopens, because if that
gamble is wrong, half a million Pennsylvanians that you represent,
their healthcare cost will skyrocket if you are wrong, and
I believe you are wrong.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
Well, for first of all, MTG is quite literally the
last person in America that I'm going to take advice
or to get their kinds of my leadership and values.
And now if Democrats are celebrating crazy pants like that,
then that's on them. And I don't need a lecture.
I don't need a lecture from whether it's Bernie or
the governor in California, because they are representing very deep
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blue kinds of populations and a lot of those things,
a lot of those things were part of the extreme.
And I'll remember what really needs to win. To win,
the big win is involving my state and other states
and those things, and why have we arrived here after
the election a year ago. We want to forget, we
got to forget. Some of the things that cost us
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that election are now for me. That's why I'm trying
to remind people that kinds of the extremism, we can't
return to those kind of things and realize we need
to find a way forward.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Would you have ever believed I've said it on the
program before, but I do think it's worth reiterating. I
think the thing that I was most wrong about on
the program in terms of analyzing people, I thought that
John Fetterman was going to be the most disastrous senator
in the entire country. After watching that campaign against doctor Oz,
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I still wish Pennsylvania had voted for doctor Oz. I
still think that would be better if there were a
Republican in that seat. Having said that, John Fetterman is
wrong on some things, but he's right on a lot
and he's actually emerged as an articulate voice for sanity
on the Democrat side. And there's not even any competition
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that I can see for a sane take. And I
know we didn't play it, but I give credit to
Dave McCormick, who we've had on this program a lot,
for working with Fetterman, and for Fetterman being consistent in
the belief that shutting down the government didn't make any sense,
and being one of the same Democrats voting for a
long time to reopen the government. So, you know, are
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there lots of things that I would disagree with John
Fetterman on. Yes, But if there were thirty five more
Sean Fetterman John Fetterman's would the country be in a
better place? I think yes, because at least they're rational, insane,
and willing to work through something, as opposed to the
AOC mom Donnie wing of the Democrat Party, which is
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just broken brained and has no legitimate ideas for rational
thought on any basis.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
I think we've been very fair in the way that Fetterman,
after he became a Senator has spoken about things. His
voting record is a little more of a concern because
he votes with the crazies a lot of the time,
not surprising for a Democrat, but he's I think, I
think we should never lose sight of that. But he
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certainly has said more reasonable things about more issues than
pretty much any other Senate Democrat I could think of
I might be leaving somebody out, but he has He
has been care i say, a voice of reason within
the Democrat Party on a whole range of things, certainly
(09:49):
on Israel, but also on the on the border. Uh
and and he has been somebody who does not play
the game the way that many anticipated he would, which
would be to just say the whatever the mandatory maxims
of the left may be in the moment, he has
not gone along with that. Now, maybe this is because
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he's in a purple state, a red purple state, and
he wants to have a long career and doesn't want
to go to crazy town.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
This is like, you know, I don't want anyone on
the right.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Giving us a hard time, for example, about Susan Collins,
because it's like she's probably the best you're gonna do
for a main senator, given that you know she's as
good as Susan Collins for Maine, that's as good as
you're going to get. I don't think you're going to
have somebody who is much more reliable as a Republican
in that state. So Fetterman, in a sense, is also
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reflective of the state that he represents in so far
as he's not hard left. It's not New York, it's
not California.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I think also to your point, yes, he's being rational
because he is in a toss up state. You know
who's not Warnock and Assaf in Georgia. So yes, he's
in a purple state, and that is a rational choice.
Mark Kelly and Diego in Arizona are both Democrats and
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a state that Trump won by five points, and they.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Didn't vote to end the shutdown. So even in states.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Where you would argue it is in the rational self
interest of Democrats to not be left wingers like Arizona,
Like Frankly, Georgia states that Trump won in Heck, Michigan
states that Trump one that still have double Democrat Senate representation.
(11:38):
It is a sign of progress for Fetterman, but also
it illuminates the futility of other rational Democrats to join him.
And just again to your point, he disagrees with the
Republicans on a ton but on should the government stay open,
which is kind of a fundamental question. It seems pretty
significant that we should stay open. And now that this
(12:01):
shutdown has been resolved, Buck, I do.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Think we can spin this forward.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
If we have decided that for Supreme Court justices, a
simple majority can get somebody on the Supreme Court, right,
why would we not have a conversation about not allowing
a minority party to shut down the government?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Should it?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
If you have a majority, you not have to get
to sixty votes to keep the government open. I understand
this idea of the filibuster is important, and I think
it's important when it comes to things like, hey, should
we make Puerto Rico a state? Should we make Washington
d C?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Estate?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Should we expand the Supreme Court? Those are really significant
issues that I think you should have to get to
sixty on. I would say this if Democrats had control
of the government too. I don't think it's smart to
allow the government to be shut down until sixty senators
will vote for the government to be back open. Because
(12:59):
my concern, and is all we've really seen in this
forty day test case, is there aren't really very many
consequences for shutting down the government. Democrats want to keep
the government shut down, why would they not do this
during the twenty twenty eight election cycle or during the
twenty twenty six election cycle. If they have the ability
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to do so, and they see it as politically beneficial
even if they don't have control of Congress.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Like if I had to rank the significance of a
Supreme Court justice or a government shut down, Supreme Court
justice feels far more significant to me. I think we
need to eliminate this loophole in my opinion, and stop
the government from being able to be shut down in
this method.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yeah, I don't think you should be able to hold
the funding of the government hostage for any pet issue
you decide you want to make some big problem of
that to me seems like not what the system should
be allowing.
Speaker 8 (13:58):
We'll see.
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And then Clay, who was it that had that with
the dad that was driving?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
You've John and yeah, John, And Kim Hockey says, we
had a caller who said that there's the conspiracy out
there about exactly what happened. Did Patton die in the
traffic accident or not? You say your dad was driving
the car when Patten was killed, When he died in
the car.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Accident, yes, he was Okay, Well, what did your dad
tell you about that?
Speaker 6 (16:20):
He actually died nine days later. He was driving a
thirty eight Cadillac Lemo and Patton was sitting in the
back on the edge of the seat as usual, and
they were waiting for a train to pass, and he
in a pass. He pulled away, got up to about
twenty five miles an hour, and there was a personnel
carrier about a quarter mile down the road that pulled
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out at the same time. And when they got to
each other, the personnel carrier turned right into the Cadillac,
and Patton flew forward, hit his forehead on the partition
between the front and back, scalped his you know, put
to the scalp himself and broke his neck.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And so from.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Europe perspective, your dad told you there is no conspiracy there.
It's for people out there that have bought not believe
that this was a traffic accident and it was a
freak accident in some way based on the speed the
Patten died.
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Yeah, I did never talked about any conspiracies about it
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Speaker 1 (17:30):
Well thank you, that's an well, that's thank you for
the call, and thank for your thank you for your
dad's service.
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It's kind of crazy, Buck.
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We say, hey, there's a conspiracy out there about how
Patton died in a car accident, and we're going to
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our listeners calls in and said, oh yeah, it was
my dad driving the car. Uh, there's nothing to it.
You can grab that and we'll ask Bill O'Reilly about it.
You and I both said, hey, we're not super sophisticated
when it comes to knowledge on that story.
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So thanks for the call.
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Where are joined now by Dakota Meyer, Medal of Honor
receive recipient, And we're gonna get into a bunch of
different stories, but we appreciate you making the time and
appreciate all your service. I thought we would just start.
I know you've got the Medal of Honor. I haven't
heard you tell a story about how that Medal of
Honor came to be. I believe it was in Afghanistan
(19:20):
about a little bit less than twenty years ago. Can
you share with us the story of what happened that
that led to you becoming a Medal of Honor recipient?
Speaker 10 (19:29):
Yeah, no, thanks so much for having me. It's an honor.
Speaker 11 (19:32):
No.
Speaker 10 (19:33):
I was in Afghanistan. I was part of an embedded
training team in two thousand and nine and basically we
have this four US Nadie Afghans on a base and
our job was to mentor to train to and to
kind of you know, teach them our tactics and things
like that. And so we gone in. We're going to
(19:53):
run this mission into a place called the Ganggol Valley.
There's gonna be a big mission, a bunch of teams
coming together. I was on a team with Lieutenant Johnson,
Gunny Kennefick, and Doc Layton. And then so we're gone
in this this We go down this valley, we meet up,
we get our mission brief, and then the next morning
we go and start, you know, to perform this patrol.
(20:14):
And I was left with the vehicles and I was
replaced with a guy named Gunnery Sarn Johnson. And so,
as you know, they they entered the village. It's it's
the typical story of that we'd been set up and so, uh,
they'd been set up and gunfights started, and my team
ended up getting cut off by the enemy and separated
(20:35):
from the rest of the group. And so, after hearing
the you know over the radio how dire the situation was,
myself and a driver knew we had to do something.
So we took the gun truck that we were in
and we made multiple trips in the valley trying to
get the team out and then you know, after five
or six hours, we ended up we lost contact with them,
(20:57):
and then finally located them and they all being killed.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
Wow, And then could please continue on? So that what
at that point? What did you? What did you do, Dakota.
Speaker 10 (21:10):
Push recovered the bodies and brought them back out, you know,
fought our way back out and then uh, yeah, I
stayed there for another few months and then came home
after that.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
That's an extraordinary story. I'm wondering, Dakota. There's a few
things we wanted to talk to you about today, including
how we're caring for and how we're keeping the sacred
promise to our veterans after their service, veterans like yourself
and the millions of others who serve, particularly in the
in the g Watt era of Iroq and Afghanistan who
have come out. But were you what was your thought
(21:43):
when the Biden administration had the pullout from Afghanistan, a
place where you saw considerable combat and the folded the
Afghan because you were effectively involved in training Afghan units
right at one point? Were you surprised and how it
all ended in Afghanistan? Or was that along with what
(22:04):
your expectations were.
Speaker 10 (22:06):
Yeah, I mean, we should have pulled out of Afghanistan.
I mean, you know, we should have pulled Afghanistan a
long time ago, you know. I mean, the only thing
I'll say about the pull out of Afghanistan is thank
God that that somebody did it. Outside of that, you know,
I definitely we all can have some opinions on how
it went down and things like that. But I mean, look,
I mean, how how much longer I look at the
(22:26):
end of the day. What I am so thankful for
is that not another service member is dying in that
country right now. You know, we we've got to change
up the way that we fight wars. I mean, We've
got like that's that's the real problem to.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
This whole thing. Uh.
Speaker 10 (22:40):
You know, I don't know. I don't know what would
have been a great way to pull out of Afghanistan.
But I'm just thankful that that that we did.
Speaker 8 (22:48):
But I'm all. I was also particularly curse to Coda
about your assessment.
Speaker 10 (22:51):
No.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
I was in country with the CIA in god two
thousand and nine or tw ten, sorry two thousand than ten, uh,
and I was looking at all the assessments that the
four star was getting and it looked bleak in twenty ten.
To your point about pulling out sooner, when the Afghans
that we had trained a mentor for so long just
(23:14):
didn't fight, I mean they just there was no fight
against the Taliban. Was that along with your expectations or
was that a surprise?
Speaker 10 (23:20):
I mean, I mean absolutely, But this is like, this
is more My frustration part is with you know, everybody
advocating for Look. I brought my interpreter over, and I
think that anybody we made a promise to we should
one hundred percent, you know, fulfill that promise. But here's
here's where my stance is on this thing. Look, bring
any of the women and children over, but you're if
(23:41):
you're a military age male, you don't get to come
to the United States because you don't get to live
off the freedom on the backs of our service members.
You need to fight for your own. Coming here is
not going to be what's going to fix your country.
We need people that are going to fight for what's right.
We stood over there and our people were dying for
twenty some years to try to help them build up
(24:02):
their country, to help build up an infrastructure and you know,
what are we going to do?
Speaker 12 (24:08):
Right?
Speaker 10 (24:08):
I mean, what are we going to do?
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Yeah, I wanted to ask you one more thing da
coda before we transition actually into something else, the fight
for gender rights that I know that you are, or
rather just for gender which Clay and I definitely want
to talk to you about because that's something we talk
about a lot here on the show. But as it
is Veterans Day, how are we doing in your mind
of honoring, supporting, and keeping the promise of the American
(24:33):
people to our veterans given the wars that we've been
fighting in the operational tempo that many of them have seen.
Speaker 10 (24:43):
Yeah, I mean I think that first off, I don't
know that there's a country on the face of the
planet that loves their veterans or takes care of their
veterans better than the United States of America. You know, Look,
the Vietnam generation made sure that our generation would never
deal with that again, right. They fought so hard to
make sure that that that wasn't going to happen over again.
(25:03):
You know, I think I think obviously there's more to do.
I think that we can always do more, We could
do better. But I'll tell you what I don't I
don't think is I don't think it's not from the
lack of trying or effort. I just think that that
we've got to evolve the way that we're doing things right.
I think that we've got to evolve the services. You know,
we've got to make things current as to what the
(25:26):
needs of today's veterans are and not what they were
ten years ago, you know what I mean. Like, I
think that's kind of where we're at right now. I
do think that there's tons of things out there, but
I think we could always do better, for.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Sure, Dakota, I know again, thanks for your service. I
know you're doing work with our friend Jennifer C. Jennifer Say,
who has a great company xxx y, and you're motivated
because you have a couple of daughters. I know the
Olympic Committee right now is saying, hey, we're going to
adjust gender policy. Would you have ever believe growing up
(26:00):
that we'd be in a position where you would have
to say, hey, men can't compete in women's sports, and
that that would be considered in any way a controversial
opinion to have.
Speaker 10 (26:12):
No, it's crazy, I mean, it's absolutely insane. I think
I think what made me really realize how insane it
had gotten was whenever President Trump got you know, he
got sworn in, and his first executive order was that
there's only two genders. I mean it's crazy. Yeah, it is, right,
I mean, like like it's it's crazy because we all
know it, and even the people who are trying to
(26:33):
pretend that it's not we all know it. We all
know it. And no, it's absolutely insane. But I'll tell you,
and obviously you were in Afghanistan. You know, name a
country that's thriving or that's doing good that doesn't respect
its women.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, it's I mean, I've said Dakota. It's actually interesting
in that way. You can look at Women's World Cup
soccer matches and you can almost pick the winner just
by determining which country has more rights for women. And
I wish that our soccer team had been more aggressive
in making that case, because I mean, it's not going
(27:12):
to shock you, but if you can't wear shorts, you're
probably gonna have difficulty being one of the best women's
soccer players of all time. I would just toss out there,
and sadly that's the case in a bunch of countries.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
It's tough to play soccer and a burker for sure, Yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 10 (27:25):
Yeah I've never tried, but yeah, it definitely looks tough,
you know. But but I just think, you know, but
I do want to like put the blame where the
blame goes, right, So the blame is absolutely men, right,
we have weak men. Every problem we have in this
country is because of weak men. Period, part stop, every
(27:47):
problem we have is because of weak men. And until
we start policing our own until until we stop and
we start fighting this idea of toxic masculinity. Masculinity is
desperately needed right now. Mat toxic, but masculinity is for sure.
And look, there's no bigger feminists on the face of
the planet than a father of daughters, Like I want
my daughters to be able to have any experience they
(28:09):
want to be as equal. They have equal rights to
any other human being on the face of the planet.
But what I don't want them to be is I
don't want them to be equally valued as man. They
should be held up at a higher value because they
are sacred. They are sacred. Women are sacred. That's the
(28:29):
reason they carry kids, the reason they reproduced right, like
they are sacred and very very valuable, and we must
protect that.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
These individuals who are making this argument that I don't
know how many of these you've seen, for example, Dakota,
but you even had esteemed scientists Clay what was his name,
Neil the Grass Tyson, thank you, who went on Bill
Mahers show. And when Bill Maher looked at him and said,
(28:59):
we all know that men have a biological a physical
advantage in size, strength, speed over women. Right, this scientist,
this man of science, said why I do not know that?
Speaker 8 (29:10):
What? What is that? How does that happen in society?
Speaker 10 (29:14):
Well, I mean you have to think about this. Everything
has been weaponized, right Like, it's not about facts. Everything
has become when when you take and this is this
is where it starts to come in. You know, have
you heard this concept where people think, well, everything's gray. No,
it's not, because you know what happens in the gray.
There is nothing everything is. Everything is subjective, it's not objective.
(29:37):
There's no right and wrong, there's no accountability, there's no
win or lass. I mean, and that's what's happened. Is
is is you know how you change the truth one
word at a time, one word at a time. And
that's what they're doing. And in this gray areas where depression,
where anxiety live. And you know how you get gray.
Let's go back to art class. You take black and
white and you mix it together until there's no definitive
(29:59):
color but between the two and you get gray. Everything
in the world is black and white everything. That's the
only way you get better. It's the only way that
there is there is empowerment is when there is right
and wrong, good and evil like, and that is the way.
That's the only way to get through things like that's
the only way to become better people. That's the only
(30:20):
way for a civilization to still thrive, for societies to exist,
is if there are those lines so that the parameters
that people can live in.
Speaker 11 (30:30):
Right.
Speaker 10 (30:30):
And so you know, these people that don't want to
do this, and that's what they're doing is now they
have gone at and they're going at everything. I mean,
it's going at at everything that we have. There's no
I mean, they started in sports, right, And you know
what the worst part of it is, the worst part
of it is this is that how many women name
name the women that have called came to men's sports
(30:52):
and that are there that are trying to take titles
from men.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, it doesn't exist, of course.
Speaker 11 (30:57):
Yeah, yeah, because it's weak men who can't copeede against men,
They're going over to women and getting in their sports
and competing against women. We is absolutely insane and the
sheer fact. And so when you go back to the
original question you ask me, I mean, it's kind of
like our doctors, right, Like when the people who are
writing who are who are you know, selling the prescriptions,
(31:20):
are writing.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
The the protocols for the doctors, Well, guess what you're
guess what you're gonna have. You're not going to have
doctors who are free thinking and who are making medical
treatments better and who are going out and trying to
make people better. They're going to have people who are
just managing, managing the you know, the the protocols. You
(31:43):
don't have doctors. You have people managing the protocols, scientists.
Like everything is agenda, it's all it's all subjective. And
so yeah, I mean, look, this guy is standing back
because he doesn't want to take a stance, because at
any point in time that he takes a stance or
makes a statement of something, of what something is or
what something isn't, then he has to be prepared to
defend it, and we don't have people who are willing
(32:04):
to stand up and defend things like that.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Well said, thank you for your service, Dakota, Thank you
for continuing to speak out for truth, honesty, and frankly
basic human sanity. Good luck with those girls, and I
hope you have a good Veterans Day, sir.
Speaker 10 (32:20):
Thank you so much. Have a good day.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Let's toakd to Meyer.
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Speaker 8 (33:53):
Its Veterans Day.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I want to say thank you to all of the
veterans across America. We cruly thank you from the bottom
of the heart. Thank you for your service. We have
so many of you who listened to this show. It
is a great honor that you spend your time with us,
and that you trust us to speak honestly about issues,
including of war and peace and national security. We have
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so many write again, Clay and call again with their
own stories of family service. Just there's so many of them.
We wish you to get them all. Here we go
VIP email from Jessica. My grandfather was one of the
cormen that pulled the former President Bush out of the
water when his plane went down. He served on nine
different ships. William Hersey of New Hampshire. So very cool.
(34:38):
We're getting so many of these, Syracuse. This is Talkback
d D play this one.
Speaker 8 (34:47):
Clay and Buck. Before it was Veterans Day, it was
Armisless Day.
Speaker 10 (34:52):
And my great great aunt was the one that carried
the flag through Paris when the surrender happened at the
end of World War One.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Very cool.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I should mention we were talking about Patton, my great uncle,
So my grandmother's brothers.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
They served, and.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Patton once stopped in front of him Buck and asked
if he had gotten to kill any Germans yet, And
when he said no, he was a young guy who
had just gotten overseas into Europe, he said, you're gonna
get your chance, which he loved telling that story.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
And that is a pretty cool story.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Let's see, Margaret, Let's go, Teresa and san Antonio fire away.
Speaker 12 (35:36):
I'm going to give a shout out and a thank
you to the veteran who called in and with the
story about Omar Bradley at Fort Bliss, and I'm wondering
if he ever met my dad. I grew up around
Fort Bliss because my dad was a retired Air Force
colonel and then moved to El Paso. We were at
Fort Bliss all the time, and my dad became friends
with General Bradley. And I was a little girl, but
(35:58):
I would go to lunch with because during the summer,
my dad would take me to the pool. We'd meet
General Bradley at the Officers Club, eat lunch, and then
I'd go swimming with my dad. And I wish I
had understood then who he was, but I remember my
dad talking to him. General Bradley was so sweet to me.
He would hold my hand. I could still picture him
(36:19):
in his wheelchair and he would hold my hand and
talk to me and ask me questions about school. And
if I'd only known, you know what questions to ask him,
But I heard the gentleman call in that he had
had lunch with him at Fort Bliss. I wonder if
he ever knew my dad, but it was acazing experience.
My dad ended up getting close to her.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Thank you, Thank you for that story, so many amazing stories.
Thank you to all the veterans we
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