Is Marco Rubio really out of the 2028 presidential race? Ryan Girdusky breaks down new reporting from political insiders claiming Rubio has no plans to run for president—or even vice president—in 2028, despite ongoing speculation among Republican circles.
Ryan also examines the stunning collapse of Wisconsin Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez's gubernatorial campaign after major fundraising discrepancies surfaced, throwing the Democratic primary into chaos and reshaping one of the nation's most closely watched governor's races.
Plus, a newly released Manhattan Institute report comparing transgender diagnoses among minors in blue and red states fuels another major national debate over education, public policy, and youth gender medicine. Ryan analyzes the findings and what they could mean politically heading into the 2026 midterms and beyond.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to a Numbers game with Ryan Grodowski. Thank
you guys for being here. I hope you had a
wonderful weekend, happy Monday. Maybe many of you watched The
Odyssey over the weekend, a new movie by Christopher Nolan.
I did not see it yet, but I have a
hot take because I love Greek mythology like I've loved
it since I was a child. I love reading about it.
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I like watching movies on it. I like the new
books that are about it like they've done right, like
you know, they revisit the old Greek history and a
lot of different new book books. Love all those. I
don't think i'm gonna see because I think Christopher Nolan
is such an overrated director. I know people love him.
If you love him, great, you know Batman, Oppenheim or
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all the rest. But I do not like him. I've
never liked his movies. He does this thing where he
doesn't give the audience all the information and then has
a twist at the end with the information you haven't seen,
and everyone's like, WHOA, I didn't see that one coming,
and I'm like yeah, because he purposely withheld it, so
it's not really a trick. It's not really something you
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couldn't see from the very beginning, because that's only happens
when it's carefully hidden and it's not completely omitted. And
that's what Nolan does. He always omits the information. Drives
me crazy in watching all of his movies. So I
haven't seen The Obyssey. I know it was a big
hit over the weekend. Maybe I'll see it in the end.
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I don't know. It's everything that's that people are like, Oh,
I don't know if I want to see it because
of the casting or because of this. I don't want
to see it really because of the Christopher Nolan, But whatever,
that's to each their own. If I do see it,
maybe i'll give a review. But I spent the weekend
in Washington, DC. A good friend of mine had a
like my friend from my college, a friend from a
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long time ago. He had his wife had a baby.
So a bunch of us got together to see each
other hang out and I really didn't work work, but
I did kind of float around a little bit. I
ruander a few people I know in and around Capitol Hill.
I have minor gossip, like minor, it's not going to
break any news. It's not groundbreakingly important, but I think
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that it's interesting and it's something to keep in mind
if you're someone who reads a lot online about twenty
twenty eight and feuds within the administration, if you've paid
attention to influent political influencer culture, which don't that much
because it's a lot of waste of time. You'll see
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though a very noticeably large constituency trying to wish cast
this idea that Rubio is going to run for president.
And that's really interest between Rubio Advance and we're always
fair as Rubio or Advance Rubio dvans Well. And this
especially true by the way, among like Jewish Republicans or
people who care a lot about Israel. They they're the
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ones who are really pushing this idea that is Rubyo
or vans. I. I'm not getting into whether that's right, wrong,
or unjustified. Everyone has the right to their opinion. You know,
if you love Rubio great, like I mean, and I'm
not saying it's wrong, but what I am saying is
that they are purposely trying to get Rubio denomination just
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by wishing it, like as if it's like a you know,
tanker bell if you like, if you believe hard enough,
it comes to life. Well, I heard from two really
reliable sources that allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, Rubio is not
only not going to run, he's made no effort. He
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has told everyone I am not running, and there's nothing
there to show that he is secretly, but he has
also privately been saying he will not even appear on
a ballot as a VP, because that's what a lot
of people also hope for, is that it would be
a JD. Van's Rubio ticket. A lot of people have
been wishing that. I have been told by people fairly
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in the know that Rubio said he's not going to
run at all, not as a VP, not as a president.
He is not running. That this is really the pinnacle
of his legacy right now is the foreign policy stuff,
and he's done a very good job. I'm not papooing
it at all, but he is telling people that this
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is he's very, very seriously not doing this. We'll see
if things change. This news is not shocking, because it's
pretty public that he has told people. The part about
him not even running as a VP, I think is
interesting because I think that he now he still has
somewhat of a team together that is political, so things
could change, but it's not a huge team. It's really
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around one man who's very, very good at what he does.
But to run for president at this point in mid
July for twenty twenty eight, you'd have to announce sometime
in twenty twenty seven, so we would be we would
be seeing there are there. If you are in the
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know in political circles, you are beginning to see things
come together for certain people who are planning to run
for president twenty twenty eight. Fundraisers are being hired, important
primary state people are being not hired but given like
a promise of like you're gonna be on my campaign.
Consulting teams are coming together, like things are moving in
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the direction of this person's either going to run or
seriously looking at going to run. Rubio is doing none
of those things. Other people are not just j demands
like Ted Cruz is doing those things. Ram Paul is
doing those things. Ron de Santez kind of looks like
he's doing those things. Like those things are definitely happening
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for other people. They are not nothing from Rubio, like
and I think it's very important. As the rest of
the year drags on, all of the people casting this
Rubio presidency are really really not don't have their finger
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on the pulse of what's happening, so that's important. Speaking
of politicians not running, there was a major shakeups over
in Maine and Wisconsin. Over in Maine, Troy Jackson basically
has the nomination to running in Susan Collins, Troy Jackson
was the I guess heir from Grand Platner. He's also socialists.
He praised and loved Platiner, so that's very interesting. But
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the real shakeup was in Wisconsin. This is crazy and
it didn't make much national news. In Wisconsin, they've an
upcoming governor's election and the Democrats have the governor's mansion
and want to win for another term, and the establishment
Democrats are looking to get behind. They've been looking to
get by one woman, which is Sarah Rodriguez. She's the
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state lieutenant governor. She is she's fairly popular and in
twenty six, in the Year of Our Lord. She's a
normal Democrat, right, She's not a theater kid. She doesn't
have a fake accent. She's not like she doesn't you know,
she doesn't come off as not She's not talking about race, communism.
She's like a just fairly normal Democrat. Right. She raised
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over one million dollars. She was pulling at twenty percent,
which is third Placement's not so far away from the
first place finiture. Like she was. She was doing well.
The things were coming together, and she was about to
spend this major ad buy in the last leg of
the campaign to really get her ahead, and Tony Ivers,
the comic governor, was going to get behind her and
start campaigning for her. Everything was basically coming together for her.
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The Democrats even convinced the Milwaukee County supervisor to drop
out and support her because that was her number one competition.
They call us all the support behind this woman and
get her to be the nominee because the other Democrats
running are nuts like batshit like they are crazy. So
she's there's an event. It's about a week ago. She's
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slated to speak. It's in like the rural part of
Wisconsin's called north Woods. Except she never shows up, like
her table go's empty. She never shows up to speak
every It's very weird. Right, the next day, she publicly
fires her campaign manager and then the following Friday, she
drops out of the race. No one saw this coming, right,
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They had just cleared the feel for her, and she's
out of the race by Friday. So what happened? It
turns out her campaign manager, Caros Spencer's her name, she
was double counting donations to the campaign and they were
hundreds of thousands of dollars short of where they thought
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they were, right, not missing, like she didn't steal it.
The money net was never there. She was counting money
that didn't exist, which is very inconvenient because they just
announced this massive multi million dollar or a million dollar
rather ad buy throughout Wisconsin to kind of pull her ahead.
I have no idea, but I've worked on so many campaigns.
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I have no idea what this Cara Spencer campaign manager
lady was thinking, Like did she think that the money
would just eventually show up so she could double count
it ahead of time for reporting purposes? So no money,
no ad bys, right, So Sarah comes out, Sarah Roriguez,
the lieutenant government, comes out with this press conference that
instead of a million dollars, she had just two hundred
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thousand dollars in cash, which is not good, Like, I mean,
you really can't run for governor twndred thousands in cash.
Then a few days later it comes out she doesn't
have two hundred thousand dollars in cash, she is thirty
four thousand dollars with a one hundred and fifty thousand
dollars of debt. She's negative one hundred and fifteen thousand
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dollars in her campaign. So she went from a million
dollar ad buy to negative one sixteen one fifteen, one
sixteen in four days. It's I have never seen that
kind of double reporting where I mean she was she
was over counting by close to a million dollars. By
the way, absentine mailing has already started, so thousands of
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people have already voted and voted for her, and their
vote won't count like that, I mean, the counts it
gets calculated to her. But she's not gonna win now
because she just dropped out. It's crazy. Democrats are knifing
each other across the state. The candidate who had previously
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dropped out, who was the Milwaukee chairman, he came back
in the race after this, and I'm sure he was dropping,
you know, f bombs on the way and like you
may me drop down this woman's clearly nuts. The governor
is backing him. The current DSA candidate from Chuska, Hang,
she's cuckoo for cocoa puffs. She's surging in the field.
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This is Chessca, by the way, who is I mean?
If I was a gambling man, I probably put money
behind her. At this point, she called for abolishing the police,
abolishing prisons, getting rid of border enforcement, having the US
created government run grocery store across the stage. Of course,
she wants a free Palestine like that's an important part
of it. The Republicans in the Republican Governors Association around
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that have a pack paying two million dollars to support
for Francesca, the DSA back candidate because she is the
least likely to win in the general election. She's nuts,
and Democrats, by the way, are saying Democrats in Wisconsin
are saying publicly now she cannot win. She's the only
one who can't win because she's so off the walls,
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off the charts, completely nuts. It's gotten bad for Democrats
over in Wisconsin. Tony ivers, a governor has now endorsed
that Mi Milwaukee County executive who previously dropped out. He
just like he made him drop out. Then he comes
back in and he endorses him, and he endorsed him
by over his former lieutenant governor who's also running, a
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guy named Mandela Barnes. He ran for Senate in twenty
twenty two and loss. It's all going down in Wisconsin,
right they are it is. It is the last scene
of Julius Caesar, and they the knives are out and
they are stabbing left and right. The primary is in August.
We have a few more weeks left for it, but
as I said, mail in absenty, voting has already begun.
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So Sarah Riguez's name is on the ballad. This is
why hiring an important professional campaign team is so important.
You can't just hire any consultant. Some of these people
are crazy. Some of them are snakes in the grass.
This story is truly wild, and it's good to know
that it happens on both sides of the aisle, where
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there's bad consultants who just ruin everything. Okay, enough about
the campaign news. I want to break down a jaw
dropping study that just recently came out on transgenderism and
surgers among young people and Blue states versus read that's
coming up next. For many on the right, the explosion
of people identifying as being trans among gen z is
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become a matter of social contagion. There's a great book
called Irreversible Damage from by Abigail Schreier. I read it
many years ago at this point, or maybe a couple
of years ago. I don't overstate it. I recommend it
to everyone with a preteen daughter. And it really talks
about how young girls were announcing that they were trans
in groups like it wasn't just a singular girl, like
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an entire friend group was becoming trans Because young girls,
teenage girls, unlike teenage boys, are much more easily fall
under the spell of social contagion. Right. That's why in
the eighties you had young girls purged together, and in
the nineties you had young girls getting pregnant together, and
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then in the two thousands you had young girls cutting
themselves together. Young girls in the twenty twenties are transitioning together.
They just do things in groups when they are teenagers.
And this, by the way, has been studied among friend
groups and schools about people who like collectives of girls
who do things together will The Manhattan Institute came out
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with a new study from Leor Saper, I think is
pouncing his last name correctly. He's a senior fellow. And
they found that it's also there's huge divisions of people
doing it in clusters between blue states and red states.
Specifically looking at the state of Oregon, Oregon very blue
state supervogue, you know, especially around the Portland area. Working
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with a previously, the study found that Oregon has become
the nation's leader in transgender diagnosis and medical intervention. This
comes after Oregon became the only state to formally adopt
the World Professional Association of Transgender Health recommendations as the
basis for Medicaid benefits. Using data from the other study
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on insurance data between miners between the ages of eight
and seventeen from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty three, the
report found that in Oregon, one out of every two
hundred and forty girls and one out of every six
hundred and thirty boys were on hormones by the time
they were seventeen years old. In addition, about one percent
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of minors, one point five percent of girls, and zero
point five percent of boys received transgender related diagnosis, typically
gender dysphoria, during those years. So in other words, one
in every sixty five adolescent girls in Oregon is a
potential is a potential for sexual reassignment surgery and also
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a media note. The average age for this diagnosis in
Oregon was fourteen. This is especially crazy when you consider
the history of transgender diagnoses. This is what was covered
in Abigail Schreyer's book. What I'm going to say is
going to upset some conservatives, and you just need to
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hear it, and that's okay. There have always been people
who have considered themselves transgender or transsexual. It's always existed, right,
It's not something brand new they believe this. It is
something that's been going on for a very very long time,
way before the woke era. If you remember the movie
Dog Day Afternoon that was made in the seventies about
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an incident in the sixties that was about al Pacino's
character is robbing a bank to get money for his
lover's transgender sexual assignment surgery. That's how long this is going. However,
it's been microscopic. It's a very very, very very small
group of people who have this issue. Is not this
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widespread pandemonium that's been going on now and among the
people who said, look, I was born in the wrong body.
I should be a woman, I should be a man.
It was in common, but there were certain patterns that
were were seen throughout for decades. Namely, it happened more
frequently in men than women. That is a very important
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data point that has always existed when looking at transgender
people over time, it existed in three times or four
times as many men as women. Once again, microscopic portions
of the population. I'm not saying that we're millions before
and now there's you know, they're finally showing up. I'm
saying of the few who had this mental condition where
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they believe they were born in the wrong body, mostly
boys transitioning into girls. Then in the twenty twenties it
became three to one girls to boys. That is very,
very very important because it is signs of social contagion. Right.
A study in twenty thirteen found a diagnosed diagnostic prevaliance
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of prevalance of genders for among adults is point zero
zero two two point zero zero three percent of females
and point zero zero five percent of men to point
zero one four. Right, So we're talking once again microscopic,
very very small, but more common in men than women,
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and then all of a sudden it flips on its head,
and some are the twenty tens, twenty twenties. It just
becomes far more prevaliant amongst teenage girls than teenage boys.
And Blue states. With this application of transgender ideology in schools,
in culture, in a lot of social media, a lot
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of what you see on Instagram and TikTok and all
the rest of it, there has just been an explosion
among Blue states that hasn't been replicated among Red states.
Because if it was truly just what we see in biology, right,
let's say let's say that there was a let's say
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the left was right about this. Let's say that transgenderism
is actually much larger of an issue than people thought
because they weren't accepted, and yeahd YadA, YadA, Well, we
would see equal explosions across geographical and political areas, right,
there would be an equal level of movement, But we
are not seeing that among all fifty states and the
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District of Columbia. Transgender diagnoses are most prevalent in pockets
of the country Vermont, Oregon, Maine, Washington, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Minnesota,
and Colorado. Are the states that have the highest level
of teenage transgender diagnoses. It is least common in Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Georgia, Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma,
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and South Carolina. So you're seeing the Southeast and tech
Sis have no gigantic explosion to like the same rates,
and then the Pacific Northwest and New England have this
other completely different thing. And by the way, those two
regions of the country have vastly different opinions on religion
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and politics together, Like you know what I mean, it's
very very condensed. It even shows it among like Montana.
Montana has very high levels of transgender rates in comparison
to other red states. It's the most, it's the highest,
but it's also near the Pacific Northwest New Jersey, believe
it or not, the like mid Atlantic states don't have
high levels. New Jersey has the lowest level among a
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blue state, but it's in the same exact region. The
Manhattan Institute study says this These findings weaken the claim
that long made by advocates of the gender or firming
model that cross sex identity has a strong biological component.
If it did, we would expect to see a more
distribution of even distribution of diagnostic prevalance. Instead, minors in
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vermontent Oregon, respectively, are eighteen to sixteen times more likely
than miners in Mississippi of having gender related diagnoses. To
give one example, I need to point out by the
way that the kids in Mississippi are also reading at
better levels than kids in Oregon. Why is that important
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because this is very pervasive in the school system. I've
worked in school board elections for six years now. I
know a lot of what's going on in public schools.
It's oftentimes, by the way, not the teachers, the guidance
counselor unions that are going on. That's what really should
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be investigated by somebody who has the time and energy
to do it. What goes on among the guidance counselor's
associations is wild. It is absolutely wild. But that tells
you the whole story. Blue states, especially progressive states, are
really focusing on issues like this like transgender you know,
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associations and transgender diagnoses at young ages at fourteen in
these blue states. Red states are working on bringing back
the science of reading and phonics in the classroom. It's
two separate countries. It's just it's completely and totally crazy.
And I want to make one last point. There have
been several polling data points in multiple polls over the
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last two or three years showing a major backlash against
gay marriage throughout the country, especially among Republicans. I have
an opinion, I do not believe that for most of
the people having this push against gay marriage from consenting
adults who are mining their own business and not in
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your life. I don't think that that's the reason that
is there. I think ninety percent of this backlash is
related to the transgender push among children by the far
left and by the LGBT organization nonprofits who won every
fight that they were trying to win in the two
thousands and twenty tens and now have adopted an absolute
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kamakaze mission that is upending all their gains to promote
the social contingent among transgender youth. Absolutely delusional among those people,
and I think it's the source of most of the backlash.
People do not want to trans the kids. They're really really,
really really really hate it, and it's losing everything for
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all the people who had fought for hard fought victories
on gay and lesbian rights. Really stupid mistake on the
part of those nonprofits and those activists. Okay, Ask Me
Anything is coming up next. Now it's time for they
ask Me Anything segment. If you want a part of
the Ask Me Anything segment, you know Ryan at Numbers
gamepodcast dot com. That's Ryan at Numbers Plural Numbers gamepodcast
(23:58):
dot com. First question comes from Joel. Joel says, what
do we possible to run as tying David Duke's positions
that the DSA candidates around the country see. A few
years ago, I saw this conman explain how the woke
is especially the same as the KKK. I think the
video has gotten taken down as I can't find it anymore,
but the premise sound is sound. Both advocate of advocate segregation.
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The only difference is the victim. Here's the problem with
that ad Is it possible to do? Absolutely No one
under forty five knows who David Duke is, and I
think that that's why kind of making that comparison is
extremely limited. I don't know even forty five, maybe probably
under fifty would know who David Duke is, and the
people looking to the DSA are under thirty and so
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I don't think it'd be very effective because you're not
talking to the right people, the right generation. Most young
people of gen Z really, I think, more than any
other generation. I'm not just saying this because I'm a
little older. I don't think that they know much of
hap that has happened in recent history. I really think
they're very isolated from it unless they love history. But
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the average gen Zer, I don't think they have any
perception about recent history at all. They all gen Z
is a first generation to a personalized entertainment. They all
got an iPad. They all got to watch their own
television or have a game console or whatever the case is,
or a phone. They didn't have to sit in a
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living room with three other two other members of different
generations and share what a what television was on, like
you know, the we we did when I was growing up.
What does dad want to watch? That's what you're watching?
What his mom want to watch? What you're watching? Or
grandma or whatever. That kind of intergenerational relationship helps build
a broad perspective of things that happen before you. And
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I'll give you a weird analogy, but I think it's
it's it's true. On this most recent trip, I took
to Washingt DC with a lot of friends from college
and we end up wanted to go clubbing. I was
a club kid when I was growing up. I mean,
I don't seem like it now breaking down data, but
I was a club kid. And we go to the
DJ to request some songs because this bar where I
had a dance floor, and I requested I love freestyle,
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so I requested Liasa Lisa and the Colt jam or
Judy Torres or Cynthia. He had none of those things,
which I know is it's kind of niche, so whatever,
you wouldn't have him. But then my friend, I don't
know why he requested this singer of all, he asked
to play Wham once again, no clue why that that was.
That was thrown into left field, and the DJ was like,
I don't have Wham and I was like, I was like, yeah,
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these kids are not I mean, it was a mixed
age bar. It wasn't all like young people, but there
was a lot of young people there. I'm like, they
have no idea who George Michael is and they were
like that. He was like, that's not true, and I
was like, I pulled over, I went by the bar.
There was a bunch of girls there in like the
early twenties, like four girls. I said, you guys look
like you're like in your early twenties. Do you know
who George Michael is? Not one of them? Now, not
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one of them. I go no where old These kids
don't know. They didn't have to listen to people from
an older generation play music in front that they had
never heard of before. They're not they're not attuned to it.
They don't care. If that's that's just not gonna it's
not gonna happen. Also, I don't know why you would
play wham a bar, but that's besides the point. Anyway,
That's why that wouldn't work. David Duke, I think he
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would not reson like he wouldn't have any connection to
people of a younger generation at all. Next question comes
from roy or r c R roy or RC okay,
I guess because if I mispronounced Roy, which I probably did. RC.
He says, thanks for the podcast I always thought I
always thought provoking. Thank you. RC. I was listening to
that episode on illegal immigration. I was surprised that nothing
(27:44):
was said about remittances in some way, shape or form.
Heavy fees on those would be a nice source of income,
and it turned to illegal immigration. What are your thoughts
about this? What am I missing? I'm a big supporter
of remittances. I think it's a great idea. The administration
has done something about out this, starting in January in
the Big Beautiful Bill. There is a one percent federal
(28:06):
excise tax on cash remittances. Since January it is And
on top of that, by the way, Tennessee is also
adding their own remittance tax. They're the second state behind
Oklahoma to have a remittens tax. They're saying that they
hope the government will raise ten billion dollars by twenty
thirty four. The only problem I have with the way
it's being done though under the term administration, is that
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there's loopholes. The one percent tax does not apply to
digital banking methods such as debit or credit cards issued
from the United States. It doesn't apply to digital walle
It's like Google pay, Apple pay, or prepaid cards. So
some companies have begun offering alternatives to avoid the one
percent tax. Western Union offices offer a car that allows
(28:50):
you just to load cash and send reminiences with the
funds remaining exempt from the one percent cash. So I'm
a big fan of the concept. How what's being done
so far, There's just got to close the loophole. He's
got to make a little tighter. But I think it's there.
I think it's a big option and I'm a big
supporter of it. Next question comes from Joel. Joel, this
is a long email. I'm going to sum it up.
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You write that in my episode in July tenth, the
guest was too negative about AI and people doing it.
Bet are overlooking the upsides and not realizing the limitations
of the technology. I understand what you're saying, and I,
for the most part agree the guests in the podcast.
That name is Nate Sorez, and I think his bigger
issue of AI is not just the automation of some
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jobs or you know, cat videos or data centers. I
think his I don't think it is. His big worry
is generative AI, which we don't have yet unless you're
listening to like the Joe Rogan podcast where they claim
we have it, but it doesn't look like we do.
It's this self reproducing completely independent of any human control
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AI system that is more intelligent than people. And what
happens when this self reproduce, self controlling, you know, entity
that is conscious without a soul and superior to united
to humans decides to kill off humanity. I mean he's
very concerned about that, as are others. People who have
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worked in AI safety. A number of them have written saying,
this is out of control. This is really really bad. Now,
if you look at how AI models have dealt with
certain situations in different modeling situations, a lot of times
they really don't care what happens to humans. A lot
of AI models, you know, choose nuclear bombs in the
cases of war games, or they choose to starve people
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because people cause a lot of drama and a lot
of problems. So I'm not going to sugarcoat that, right,
This is I mean, this is the problem is you
need AI that is pro human and some models not
a big fan of people. And his argument is we
should be reaching out to China and saying this technology
is too dangerous to allow to even be created, because
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if it is, we are going to be in really
bad shape. So I think that that's the context that's missing.
It's not that he's worried about AI, you know, working
in hospitals or working with a physician's assistant. He's worried
about AI models becoming so powerful that he kills somebody.
He's not the only one who's ever said this, and
that's just the context. I think that's missing in your question.
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All right, last question for the show, really quickly. Eric,
my buddy Eric from Oregon. He writes that the governor's
race is showing signs of life, with Christine Dresen up
four points in against incumbent Tina Cotech. I saw the
poll Eric, the Oregon I will give you credit. You
have been on the Oregon beat for a while now
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before I have or Cook Politico rated Oregon is the
only race that has moved from a safe Democrat race
to a likely Democrat race. It's moving in Republicans favor.
There have been multiple polls showing that it's a close race.
I'm going to be a pessimist. I'm going to say
I need more data, but you are correct. There is
now enough information. They're saying there might be something happening
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in Oregon. Tina Kotec might just be that bad of
a governor that allows a Republican in in a blue
state in a blue year. We'll have to see, we'll
have to wait for more information, but that it is.
You are right. You are one hundred percent right on
this one. Oregon is showing signs of life. Okay, that's
this episode. Thank you guys for listening to this podcast.
I appreciate you all. If you like this podcast, please
(32:28):
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right in the morning when it comes out. Thank you guys,
Welcome back to a Numbers game with Ryan Grodowski. Thank
you guys for being here. I hope you had a
wonderful weekend, happy Monday. Maybe many of you watched The
Odyssey over the weekend, a new movie by Christopher Nolan.
I did not see it yet, but I have a
hot take because I love Greek mythology like I've loved
it since I was a child. I love reading about it.
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I like watching movies on it. I like the new
books that are about it like they've done right, like
you know, they revisit the old Greek history and a
lot of different new book books. Love all those. I
don't think i'm gonna see because I think Christopher Nolan
is such an overrated director. I know people love him.
If you love him, great, you know Batman, Oppenheim or
(00:43):
all the rest. But I do not like him. I've
never liked his movies. He does this thing where he
doesn't give the audience all the information and then has
a twist at the end with the information you haven't seen,
and everyone's like, WHOA, I didn't see that one coming,
and I'm like yeah, because he purposely withheld it, so
it's not really a trick. It's not really something you
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couldn't see from the very beginning, because that's only happens
when it's carefully hidden and it's not completely omitted. And
that's what Nolan does. He always omits the information. Drives
me crazy in watching all of his movies. So I
haven't seen The Obyssey. I know it was a big
hit over the weekend. Maybe I'll see it in the end.
(01:26):
I don't know. It's everything that's that people are like, Oh,
I don't know if I want to see it because
of the casting or because of this. I don't want
to see it really because of the Christopher Nolan, But whatever,
that's to each their own. If I do see it,
maybe i'll give a review. But I spent the weekend
in Washington, DC. A good friend of mine had a
like my friend from my college, a friend from a
(01:47):
long time ago. He had his wife had a baby.
So a bunch of us got together to see each
other hang out and I really didn't work work, but
I did kind of float around a little bit. I
ruander a few people I know in and around Capitol Hill.
I have minor gossip, like minor, it's not going to
break any news. It's not groundbreakingly important, but I think
(02:09):
that it's interesting and it's something to keep in mind
if you're someone who reads a lot online about twenty
twenty eight and feuds within the administration, if you've paid
attention to influent political influencer culture, which don't that much
because it's a lot of waste of time. You'll see
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though a very noticeably large constituency trying to wish cast
this idea that Rubio is going to run for president.
And that's really interest between Rubio Advance and we're always
fair as Rubio or Advance Rubio dvans Well. And this
especially true by the way, among like Jewish Republicans or
people who care a lot about Israel. They they're the
(02:52):
ones who are really pushing this idea that is Rubyo
or vans. I. I'm not getting into whether that's right, wrong,
or unjustified. Everyone has the right to their opinion. You know,
if you love Rubio great, like I mean, and I'm
not saying it's wrong, but what I am saying is
that they are purposely trying to get Rubio denomination just
(03:13):
by wishing it, like as if it's like a you know,
tanker bell if you like, if you believe hard enough,
it comes to life. Well, I heard from two really
reliable sources that allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, Rubio is not
only not going to run, he's made no effort. He
(03:35):
has told everyone I am not running, and there's nothing
there to show that he is secretly, but he has
also privately been saying he will not even appear on
a ballot as a VP, because that's what a lot
of people also hope for, is that it would be
a JD. Van's Rubio ticket. A lot of people have
been wishing that. I have been told by people fairly
(03:58):
in the know that Rubio said he's not going to
run at all, not as a VP, not as a president.
He is not running. That this is really the pinnacle
of his legacy right now is the foreign policy stuff,
and he's done a very good job. I'm not papooing
it at all, but he is telling people that this
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is he's very, very seriously not doing this. We'll see
if things change. This news is not shocking, because it's
pretty public that he has told people. The part about
him not even running as a VP, I think is
interesting because I think that he now he still has
somewhat of a team together that is political, so things
could change, but it's not a huge team. It's really
(04:43):
around one man who's very, very good at what he does.
But to run for president at this point in mid
July for twenty twenty eight, you'd have to announce sometime
in twenty twenty seven, so we would be we would
be seeing there are there. If you are in the
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know in political circles, you are beginning to see things
come together for certain people who are planning to run
for president twenty twenty eight. Fundraisers are being hired, important
primary state people are being not hired but given like
a promise of like you're gonna be on my campaign.
Consulting teams are coming together, like things are moving in
(05:28):
the direction of this person's either going to run or
seriously looking at going to run. Rubio is doing none
of those things. Other people are not just j demands
like Ted Cruz is doing those things. Ram Paul is
doing those things. Ron de Santez kind of looks like
he's doing those things. Like those things are definitely happening
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for other people. They are not nothing from Rubio, like
and I think it's very important. As the rest of
the year drags on, all of the people casting this
Rubio presidency are really really not don't have their finger
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on the pulse of what's happening, so that's important. Speaking
of politicians not running, there was a major shakeups over
in Maine and Wisconsin. Over in Maine, Troy Jackson basically
has the nomination to running in Susan Collins, Troy Jackson
was the I guess heir from Grand Platner. He's also socialists.
He praised and loved Platiner, so that's very interesting. But
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the real shakeup was in Wisconsin. This is crazy and
it didn't make much national news. In Wisconsin, they've an
upcoming governor's election and the Democrats have the governor's mansion
and want to win for another term, and the establishment
Democrats are looking to get behind. They've been looking to
get by one woman, which is Sarah Rodriguez. She's the
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state lieutenant governor. She is she's fairly popular and in
twenty six, in the Year of Our Lord. She's a
normal Democrat, right, She's not a theater kid. She doesn't
have a fake accent. She's not like she doesn't you know,
she doesn't come off as not She's not talking about race, communism.
She's like a just fairly normal Democrat. Right. She raised
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over one million dollars. She was pulling at twenty percent,
which is third Placement's not so far away from the
first place finiture. Like she was. She was doing well.
The things were coming together, and she was about to
spend this major ad buy in the last leg of
the campaign to really get her ahead, and Tony Ivers,
the comic governor, was going to get behind her and
start campaigning for her. Everything was basically coming together for her.
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The Democrats even convinced the Milwaukee County supervisor to drop
out and support her because that was her number one competition.
They call us all the support behind this woman and
get her to be the nominee because the other Democrats
running are nuts like batshit like they are crazy. So
she's there's an event. It's about a week ago. She's
(08:00):
slated to speak. It's in like the rural part of
Wisconsin's called north Woods. Except she never shows up, like
her table go's empty. She never shows up to speak
every It's very weird. Right, the next day, she publicly
fires her campaign manager and then the following Friday, she
drops out of the race. No one saw this coming, right,
(08:21):
They had just cleared the feel for her, and she's
out of the race by Friday. So what happened? It
turns out her campaign manager, Caros Spencer's her name, she
was double counting donations to the campaign and they were
hundreds of thousands of dollars short of where they thought
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they were, right, not missing, like she didn't steal it.
The money net was never there. She was counting money
that didn't exist, which is very inconvenient because they just
announced this massive multi million dollar or a million dollar
rather ad buy throughout Wisconsin to kind of pull her ahead.
I have no idea, but I've worked on so many campaigns.
(09:04):
I have no idea what this Cara Spencer campaign manager
lady was thinking, Like did she think that the money
would just eventually show up so she could double count
it ahead of time for reporting purposes? So no money,
no ad bys, right, So Sarah comes out, Sarah Roriguez,
the lieutenant government, comes out with this press conference that
instead of a million dollars, she had just two hundred
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thousand dollars in cash, which is not good, Like, I mean,
you really can't run for governor twndred thousands in cash.
Then a few days later it comes out she doesn't
have two hundred thousand dollars in cash, she is thirty
four thousand dollars with a one hundred and fifty thousand
dollars of debt. She's negative one hundred and fifteen thousand
(09:50):
dollars in her campaign. So she went from a million
dollar ad buy to negative one sixteen one fifteen, one
sixteen in four days. It's I have never seen that
kind of double reporting where I mean she was she
was over counting by close to a million dollars. By
the way, absentine mailing has already started, so thousands of
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people have already voted and voted for her, and their
vote won't count like that, I mean, the counts it
gets calculated to her. But she's not gonna win now
because she just dropped out. It's crazy. Democrats are knifing
each other across the state. The candidate who had previously
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dropped out, who was the Milwaukee chairman, he came back
in the race after this, and I'm sure he was dropping,
you know, f bombs on the way and like you
may me drop down this woman's clearly nuts. The governor
is backing him. The current DSA candidate from Chuska, Hang,
she's cuckoo for cocoa puffs. She's surging in the field.
(10:59):
This is Chessca, by the way, who is I mean?
If I was a gambling man, I probably put money
behind her. At this point, she called for abolishing the police,
abolishing prisons, getting rid of border enforcement, having the US
created government run grocery store across the stage. Of course,
she wants a free Palestine like that's an important part
of it. The Republicans in the Republican Governors Association around
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that have a pack paying two million dollars to support
for Francesca, the DSA back candidate because she is the
least likely to win in the general election. She's nuts,
and Democrats, by the way, are saying Democrats in Wisconsin
are saying publicly now she cannot win. She's the only
one who can't win because she's so off the walls,
(11:43):
off the charts, completely nuts. It's gotten bad for Democrats
over in Wisconsin. Tony ivers, a governor has now endorsed
that Mi Milwaukee County executive who previously dropped out. He
just like he made him drop out. Then he comes
back in and he endorses him, and he endorsed him
by over his former lieutenant governor who's also running, a
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guy named Mandela Barnes. He ran for Senate in twenty
twenty two and loss. It's all going down in Wisconsin,
right they are it is. It is the last scene
of Julius Caesar, and they the knives are out and
they are stabbing left and right. The primary is in August.
We have a few more weeks left for it, but
as I said, mail in absenty, voting has already begun.
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So Sarah Riguez's name is on the ballad. This is
why hiring an important professional campaign team is so important.
You can't just hire any consultant. Some of these people
are crazy. Some of them are snakes in the grass.
This story is truly wild, and it's good to know
that it happens on both sides of the aisle, where
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there's bad consultants who just ruin everything. Okay, enough about
the campaign news. I want to break down a jaw
dropping study that just recently came out on transgenderism and
surgers among young people and Blue states versus read that's
coming up next. For many on the right, the explosion
of people identifying as being trans among gen z is
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become a matter of social contagion. There's a great book
called Irreversible Damage from by Abigail Schreier. I read it
many years ago at this point, or maybe a couple
of years ago. I don't overstate it. I recommend it
to everyone with a preteen daughter. And it really talks
about how young girls were announcing that they were trans
in groups like it wasn't just a singular girl, like
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an entire friend group was becoming trans Because young girls,
teenage girls, unlike teenage boys, are much more easily fall
under the spell of social contagion. Right. That's why in
the eighties you had young girls purged together, and in
the nineties you had young girls getting pregnant together, and
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then in the two thousands you had young girls cutting
themselves together. Young girls in the twenty twenties are transitioning together.
They just do things in groups when they are teenagers.
And this, by the way, has been studied among friend
groups and schools about people who like collectives of girls
who do things together will The Manhattan Institute came out
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with a new study from Leor Saper, I think is
pouncing his last name correctly. He's a senior fellow. And
they found that it's also there's huge divisions of people
doing it in clusters between blue states and red states.
Specifically looking at the state of Oregon, Oregon very blue
state supervogue, you know, especially around the Portland area. Working
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with a previously, the study found that Oregon has become
the nation's leader in transgender diagnosis and medical intervention. This
comes after Oregon became the only state to formally adopt
the World Professional Association of Transgender Health recommendations as the
basis for Medicaid benefits. Using data from the other study
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on insurance data between miners between the ages of eight
and seventeen from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty three, the
report found that in Oregon, one out of every two
hundred and forty girls and one out of every six
hundred and thirty boys were on hormones by the time
they were seventeen years old. In addition, about one percent
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of minors, one point five percent of girls, and zero
point five percent of boys received transgender related diagnosis, typically
gender dysphoria, during those years. So in other words, one
in every sixty five adolescent girls in Oregon is a
potential is a potential for sexual reassignment surgery and also
(15:43):
a media note. The average age for this diagnosis in
Oregon was fourteen. This is especially crazy when you consider
the history of transgender diagnoses. This is what was covered
in Abigail Schreyer's book. What I'm going to say is
going to upset some conservatives, and you just need to
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hear it, and that's okay. There have always been people
who have considered themselves transgender or transsexual. It's always existed, right,
It's not something brand new they believe this. It is
something that's been going on for a very very long time,
way before the woke era. If you remember the movie
Dog Day Afternoon that was made in the seventies about
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an incident in the sixties that was about al Pacino's
character is robbing a bank to get money for his
lover's transgender sexual assignment surgery. That's how long this is going. However,
it's been microscopic. It's a very very, very very small
group of people who have this issue. Is not this
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widespread pandemonium that's been going on now and among the
people who said, look, I was born in the wrong body.
I should be a woman, I should be a man.
It was in common, but there were certain patterns that
were were seen throughout for decades. Namely, it happened more
frequently in men than women. That is a very important
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data point that has always existed when looking at transgender
people over time, it existed in three times or four
times as many men as women. Once again, microscopic portions
of the population. I'm not saying that we're millions before
and now there's you know, they're finally showing up. I'm
saying of the few who had this mental condition where
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they believe they were born in the wrong body, mostly
boys transitioning into girls. Then in the twenty twenties it
became three to one girls to boys. That is very,
very very important because it is signs of social contagion. Right.
A study in twenty thirteen found a diagnosed diagnostic prevaliance
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of prevalance of genders for among adults is point zero
zero two two point zero zero three percent of females
and point zero zero five percent of men to point
zero one four. Right, So we're talking once again microscopic,
very very small, but more common in men than women,
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and then all of a sudden it flips on its head,
and some are the twenty tens, twenty twenties. It just
becomes far more prevaliant amongst teenage girls than teenage boys.
And Blue states. With this application of transgender ideology in schools,
in culture, in a lot of social media, a lot
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of what you see on Instagram and TikTok and all
the rest of it, there has just been an explosion
among Blue states that hasn't been replicated among Red states.
Because if it was truly just what we see in biology, right,
let's say let's say that there was a let's say
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the left was right about this. Let's say that transgenderism
is actually much larger of an issue than people thought
because they weren't accepted, and yeahd YadA, YadA, Well, we
would see equal explosions across geographical and political areas, right,
there would be an equal level of movement, But we
are not seeing that among all fifty states and the
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District of Columbia. Transgender diagnoses are most prevalent in pockets
of the country Vermont, Oregon, Maine, Washington, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Minnesota,
and Colorado. Are the states that have the highest level
of teenage transgender diagnoses. It is least common in Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Georgia, Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma,
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and South Carolina. So you're seeing the Southeast and tech
Sis have no gigantic explosion to like the same rates,
and then the Pacific Northwest and New England have this
other completely different thing. And by the way, those two
regions of the country have vastly different opinions on religion
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and politics together, Like you know what I mean, it's
very very condensed. It even shows it among like Montana.
Montana has very high levels of transgender rates in comparison
to other red states. It's the most, it's the highest,
but it's also near the Pacific Northwest New Jersey, believe
it or not, the like mid Atlantic states don't have
high levels. New Jersey has the lowest level among a
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blue state, but it's in the same exact region. The
Manhattan Institute study says this These findings weaken the claim
that long made by advocates of the gender or firming
model that cross sex identity has a strong biological component.
If it did, we would expect to see a more
distribution of even distribution of diagnostic prevalance. Instead, minors in
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vermontent Oregon, respectively, are eighteen to sixteen times more likely
than miners in Mississippi of having gender related diagnoses. To
give one example, I need to point out by the
way that the kids in Mississippi are also reading at
better levels than kids in Oregon. Why is that important
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because this is very pervasive in the school system. I've
worked in school board elections for six years now. I
know a lot of what's going on in public schools.
It's oftentimes, by the way, not the teachers, the guidance
counselor unions that are going on. That's what really should
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be investigated by somebody who has the time and energy
to do it. What goes on among the guidance counselor's
associations is wild. It is absolutely wild. But that tells
you the whole story. Blue states, especially progressive states, are
really focusing on issues like this like transgender you know,
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associations and transgender diagnoses at young ages at fourteen in
these blue states. Red states are working on bringing back
the science of reading and phonics in the classroom. It's
two separate countries. It's just it's completely and totally crazy.
And I want to make one last point. There have
been several polling data points in multiple polls over the
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last two or three years showing a major backlash against
gay marriage throughout the country, especially among Republicans. I have
an opinion, I do not believe that for most of
the people having this push against gay marriage from consenting
adults who are mining their own business and not in
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your life. I don't think that that's the reason that
is there. I think ninety percent of this backlash is
related to the transgender push among children by the far
left and by the LGBT organization nonprofits who won every
fight that they were trying to win in the two
thousands and twenty tens and now have adopted an absolute
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kamakaze mission that is upending all their gains to promote
the social contingent among transgender youth. Absolutely delusional among those people,
and I think it's the source of most of the backlash.
People do not want to trans the kids. They're really really,
really really really hate it, and it's losing everything for
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all the people who had fought for hard fought victories
on gay and lesbian rights. Really stupid mistake on the
part of those nonprofits and those activists. Okay, Ask Me
Anything is coming up next. Now it's time for they
ask Me Anything segment. If you want a part of
the Ask Me Anything segment, you know Ryan at Numbers
gamepodcast dot com. That's Ryan at Numbers Plural Numbers gamepodcast
(23:58):
dot com. First question comes from Joel. Joel says, what
do we possible to run as tying David Duke's positions
that the DSA candidates around the country see. A few
years ago, I saw this conman explain how the woke
is especially the same as the KKK. I think the
video has gotten taken down as I can't find it anymore,
but the premise sound is sound. Both advocate of advocate segregation.
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The only difference is the victim. Here's the problem with
that ad Is it possible to do? Absolutely No one
under forty five knows who David Duke is, and I
think that that's why kind of making that comparison is
extremely limited. I don't know even forty five, maybe probably
under fifty would know who David Duke is, and the
people looking to the DSA are under thirty and so
(24:44):
I don't think it'd be very effective because you're not
talking to the right people, the right generation. Most young
people of gen Z really, I think, more than any
other generation. I'm not just saying this because I'm a
little older. I don't think that they know much of
hap that has happened in recent history. I really think
they're very isolated from it unless they love history. But
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the average gen Zer, I don't think they have any
perception about recent history at all. They all gen Z
is a first generation to a personalized entertainment. They all
got an iPad. They all got to watch their own
television or have a game console or whatever the case is,
or a phone. They didn't have to sit in a
(25:29):
living room with three other two other members of different
generations and share what a what television was on, like
you know, the we we did when I was growing up.
What does dad want to watch? That's what you're watching?
What his mom want to watch? What you're watching? Or
grandma or whatever. That kind of intergenerational relationship helps build
a broad perspective of things that happen before you. And
(25:53):
I'll give you a weird analogy, but I think it's
it's it's true. On this most recent trip, I took
to Washingt DC with a lot of friends from college
and we end up wanted to go clubbing. I was
a club kid when I was growing up. I mean,
I don't seem like it now breaking down data, but
I was a club kid. And we go to the
DJ to request some songs because this bar where I
had a dance floor, and I requested I love freestyle,
(26:17):
so I requested Liasa Lisa and the Colt jam or
Judy Torres or Cynthia. He had none of those things,
which I know is it's kind of niche, so whatever,
you wouldn't have him. But then my friend, I don't
know why he requested this singer of all, he asked
to play Wham once again, no clue why that that was.
That was thrown into left field, and the DJ was like,
I don't have Wham and I was like, I was like, yeah,
(26:38):
these kids are not I mean, it was a mixed
age bar. It wasn't all like young people, but there
was a lot of young people there. I'm like, they
have no idea who George Michael is and they were
like that. He was like, that's not true, and I
was like, I pulled over, I went by the bar.
There was a bunch of girls there in like the
early twenties, like four girls. I said, you guys look
like you're like in your early twenties. Do you know
who George Michael is? Not one of them? Now, not
(26:59):
one of them. I go no where old These kids
don't know. They didn't have to listen to people from
an older generation play music in front that they had
never heard of before. They're not they're not attuned to it.
They don't care. If that's that's just not gonna it's
not gonna happen. Also, I don't know why you would
play wham a bar, but that's besides the point. Anyway,
That's why that wouldn't work. David Duke, I think he
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would not reson like he wouldn't have any connection to
people of a younger generation at all. Next question comes
from roy or r c R roy or RC okay,
I guess because if I mispronounced Roy, which I probably did. RC.
He says, thanks for the podcast I always thought I
always thought provoking. Thank you. RC. I was listening to
that episode on illegal immigration. I was surprised that nothing
(27:44):
was said about remittances in some way, shape or form.
Heavy fees on those would be a nice source of income,
and it turned to illegal immigration. What are your thoughts
about this? What am I missing? I'm a big supporter
of remittances. I think it's a great idea. The administration
has done something about out this, starting in January in
the Big Beautiful Bill. There is a one percent federal
(28:06):
excise tax on cash remittances. Since January it is And
on top of that, by the way, Tennessee is also
adding their own remittance tax. They're the second state behind
Oklahoma to have a remittens tax. They're saying that they
hope the government will raise ten billion dollars by twenty
thirty four. The only problem I have with the way
it's being done though under the term administration, is that
(28:28):
there's loopholes. The one percent tax does not apply to
digital banking methods such as debit or credit cards issued
from the United States. It doesn't apply to digital walle
It's like Google pay, Apple pay, or prepaid cards. So
some companies have begun offering alternatives to avoid the one
percent tax. Western Union offices offer a car that allows
(28:50):
you just to load cash and send reminiences with the
funds remaining exempt from the one percent cash. So I'm
a big fan of the concept. How what's being done
so far, There's just got to close the loophole. He's
got to make a little tighter. But I think it's there.
I think it's a big option and I'm a big
supporter of it. Next question comes from Joel. Joel, this
is a long email. I'm going to sum it up.
(29:11):
You write that in my episode in July tenth, the
guest was too negative about AI and people doing it.
Bet are overlooking the upsides and not realizing the limitations
of the technology. I understand what you're saying, and I,
for the most part agree the guests in the podcast.
That name is Nate Sorez, and I think his bigger
issue of AI is not just the automation of some
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jobs or you know, cat videos or data centers. I
think his I don't think it is. His big worry
is generative AI, which we don't have yet unless you're
listening to like the Joe Rogan podcast where they claim
we have it, but it doesn't look like we do.
It's this self reproducing completely independent of any human control
(29:54):
AI system that is more intelligent than people. And what
happens when this self reproduce, self controlling, you know, entity
that is conscious without a soul and superior to united
to humans decides to kill off humanity. I mean he's
very concerned about that, as are others. People who have
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worked in AI safety. A number of them have written saying,
this is out of control. This is really really bad. Now,
if you look at how AI models have dealt with
certain situations in different modeling situations, a lot of times
they really don't care what happens to humans. A lot
of AI models, you know, choose nuclear bombs in the
cases of war games, or they choose to starve people
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because people cause a lot of drama and a lot
of problems. So I'm not going to sugarcoat that, right,
This is I mean, this is the problem is you
need AI that is pro human and some models not
a big fan of people. And his argument is we
should be reaching out to China and saying this technology
is too dangerous to allow to even be created, because
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if it is, we are going to be in really
bad shape. So I think that that's the context that's missing.
It's not that he's worried about AI, you know, working
in hospitals or working with a physician's assistant. He's worried
about AI models becoming so powerful that he kills somebody.
He's not the only one who's ever said this, and
that's just the context. I think that's missing in your question.
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All right, last question for the show, really quickly. Eric,
my buddy Eric from Oregon. He writes that the governor's
race is showing signs of life, with Christine Dresen up
four points in against incumbent Tina Cotech. I saw the
poll Eric, the Oregon I will give you credit. You
have been on the Oregon beat for a while now
(31:45):
before I have or Cook Politico rated Oregon is the
only race that has moved from a safe Democrat race
to a likely Democrat race. It's moving in Republicans favor.
There have been multiple polls showing that it's a close race.
I'm going to be a pessimist. I'm going to say
I need more data, but you are correct. There is
now enough information. They're saying there might be something happening
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in Oregon. Tina Kotec might just be that bad of
a governor that allows a Republican in in a blue
state in a blue year. We'll have to see, we'll
have to wait for more information, but that it is.
You are right. You are one hundred percent right on
this one. Oregon is showing signs of life. Okay, that's
this episode. Thank you guys for listening to this podcast.
I appreciate you all. If you like this podcast, please
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