April 15, 2026 • 38 mins
In this action-packed episode of The Numbers Game, Ryan breaks down the biggest political stories shaping the moment—backed by fresh polling, insider insight, and a major announcement.
Ryan unveils his new Homeland PAC, aimed at holding Republicans accountable on immigration policy and challenging pro-amnesty lawmakers. He also dives into the growing fallout surrounding Eric Swalwell, including shocking allegations, political consequences, and what it means for Democrats heading into 2028.
Plus, a deep dive into a new Yale poll reveals a major generational divide within Gen Z, with young voters shifting in unexpected ways. Ryan unpacks the numbers on Trump’s approval, the widening gender gap, and why young men may be the GOP’s biggest opportunity moving forward.
Later in the episode, Ryan sits down with Louisiana State Treasurer and U.S. Senate candidate John Fleming to discuss border security, AI regulation, nuclear energy, and the future of the Republican Party.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to a numbers name with Ryan Gradoski. Thank
you us for being here. We have an action packed
show for you. I have a special announcement, we have
poll numbers. I have an interview with the US Senate candidate.
You're not going to want to miss it. Let's get
into the first thing. If you checked out my social
media yesterday, I have officially launched a new superpack called
Homeland Pack. It's dedicated to defeating pro amnesty Republicans in
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Congress and the House representatives. Maria Salazar's Dignity Bill has
set me off and it's a step too far, and
I think it's time that we hold Republicans accountable. Polls
have shown time and time and time again that Republicans
opinion on immigration, to paraphrase Hillary Clinton, should be safe, legal,
and rare, and supporting amnesty is just not part of
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that equation. And I just don't think that there's anything
we should do that to endorse what their position is
and make it known that if you do this, you're
going to get a primary challenge, and you're going to
have that primary challenge well funded. We want our to
protect our borders, we want to reduce legal immigration and
maybe restricted in certain ways to not every country on Earth.
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We only want immigrants when richer society, instead of bringing
cultures that challenge our country and our social trust. So
this pack is going to be a new passion project
of mine. We're already targeting one pro anasty Republican the
primary this year, maybe a second one, depending if we
have raised the money in time. You know, it's a
multi year thing, and I'm going to make it known
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that you have time if you are a Republican member
of Congress to back away from this bill. You don't
have to own up to this. I won't have to
sit there and spend the money against you, and it
will all just be much happier for it. But that's
my plan. It's a passion project. Hopefully you will check
it out. It is a long way out, sim from
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really campaigning, but we'll see. So you can go to
Homeland pack dot com to read more about it, donate
and see our progress, read up on stuff. But enough
is enough, and I hope that this will be the
beginning of making sure Republicans are held accountable. We need
to tell Republicans in Washington stop selling out this country.
Okay before we go into the polling.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I have to.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Talk about Eric Slowwell, Congressman Eric Slowell, so Slawwell. I
mentioned briefly in the previous episode that he was being
accused while he has stepped out of the race for governor,
and because there's at least four people for women accusing
him of sexual assault and harassment. Guys, I'm gonna be
honest with you, there are a lot more, a lot, lot, lot,
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lot more. I know of at least one woman who
is a friend of mine who he groped in the
back of a car. I know of another friend who
was a lobbyist who had a professional meeting with him,
and within thirty minutes of leaving his office, he was
texting her very inappropriate things. He is a predator, is
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serial predator. Everyone everyone knew that there was something up
of this guy if you had any interaction with him
for five seconds. He is not a good man. And
the person who's running away fastest, this is the interesting part.
The person who's running away fastest from this is Senator
Ruben Gego from Arizona. Now, Gego has not made a
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secret of the fact that he wants to run for
president twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
He's going to Swing states.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
He's building a national fundraising committee or fundraising apparatus, and
he is saying Slawwell had this double life that he.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Did not know, he knew nothing about. How could he know?
No one?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And I'm telling you no one. And I've spoken to
Democrats about this, like in the know believes him. No
one believes him, absolutely, no one believes him. Now, Gago
and Slowell weren't just friends. They were, by their own acclaim,
best friends. Listen to this clip.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Tonight, begin to me my best friend in the world.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Ruben Guido, you would become the national campaign chairman for
Representative Eric Solwell, Democrat for Sullwifornia.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
See, I'm good chairman.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I got to correct.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Well.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, and he's from up my way. I grew up
in the Bay Area. He's an Alamina County guy, w
or Oakland. Yeah, why him? Well, look, we're first of all,
we're best of friends. We actually baby sit each other kids.
Not that that's the only reason, but you know, you
know wants someone you know is hard.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I know it's hard.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
And he also wants somebody I think in his camp
that's going to look out for him and also keep
him honest, because these campaigns can be very difficult. Now
to remind everyone that may not know Gego, who's running
away from Slowa as fast as he can, divorce his
pregnant wife, sealed his court records and then secretly married
a woman fifteen years younger than him that he met
a congressional baseball game.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It's is it a shocker that they were best friends?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
And what exactly is in Reuben Diego's background that he
is not sharing.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I I think we're going to hear more and more
whispers as we get closer and closer to twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Slaw was one of four congressmen facing expulsion hearings this week.
Congress was going to kick out four members, two Republicans
and two Democrats for various corruption and other improprieties. Slowell,
Tony Gonzalez, who have covered a lot in this podcast,
Corey Mills, who have also covered a lot of this podcast,
and Sheila McCormick. Gonzalez and Slawell decided to resign, keeping
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their pensions just FYI before being expolled. Ironically, it's Mills
and McCormick, though, who have the most serious allegations against them,
but received the least amount of attention. Their allegations would
suggest they're far more corrupt allegedly. And of course there
are two. These two are fighting to stay into the
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last second. They need to stay, They need those jobs
in Congress. So we'll be interested to see if Congress
does what's right and kicks them to the curb and
shows a little backbone, or whether Slawwell and Gonzales will
be enough to kind of show they cleaned house even
though they have resigned on their own. Okay, that's the news.
That's the up to date news. Let's get into a
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new poll that came out. That's just it's got incredible information.
So it's a Yale University poll and it puts young voters.
It polls young voters every single year, and it's unique
because they're sample size of young voters is very large,
a lot of a lot of poles sample young voters,
but oftentimes young voters have the smallest demographics, so the
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margin of era is very large. It's very difficult to
get actual details from there. They don't break it down
by anything else becizes their age and within the within
the gen Z population, they don't break it down between
younger gen Z and old gen Z. Only the Yale
University poll does that. Okay, so what are the key takeaways. First,
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Trump's poll numbers are syncing with young voters. We kind
of know this already. It's been pretty obvious for every pole.
According to this Yale University poll, Trump has a twenty
seven percent approval rating with voters under thirty. However, what
we saw in the last election, the twenty twenty four election,
persists today. There are two gen zs, Ryan, what are
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you talking about? Two gen zs? There are two gen zs.
There's the gen Z who got to experience high school
without COVID and are more likely to have boomer parents
versus gen X parents, and they're more likely to be
democratic and be more liberal. And then those are the
ones who experience a government shutdown and lockdown and know
high school and their parents are more likely to be
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gen X. Remember, gen X is more Republican than baby
boomers are. From the start of the Trump administration till now,
favorability among men between the ages of eighteen to twenty
two is down eight points, from negative nineteen to negative
twenty seven. That's actually Trump's best demographic among young voters
is men under the age of twenty three. Now, remember
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the data from David Shore. Trump actually one men under
twenty in the last election. So it's not shocking that
these it's shocking when you hear it, but when you
know all the data, when you've heard a complete record,
it's not that that surprising that young men are the
most ambitious. Support among young women between eighteen and twenty
two has fallen fourteen points and stands at a daunting
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negative fifty four points. You have an extreme difference between
young men and young women, with young women being very
left wing. Let me tell you there's a lot of
young conservative guys who are gonna be in a difficult
position when it comes to finding a wife and trying
to find someone who's compatible on politics and trying to
convert young women. That's that's your goal. Gentlemen, If you
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are a young conservative man and you're dating a woman
and she's either on the fence or she's a mile
left wing, getting married, having kids and making her conservative,
there's no it's a difficult task, but it's absolutely possible.
I've seen I know, I know women in my own life,
by the way, who were Democrats became Republicans base on
who they married, and stuff marriage does affect a lot
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of that. Men between twenty three and twenty nine support
has fallen nine points, from negative twenty four to negative
thirty three. Support among young women from twenty three to
twenty nine, same age group has fallen seven points, from
negative forty to negative forty seven. When it comes to
the generic ballad of who are you going to vote
in the midterms, Democrats lead overall by just two points.
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It's actually one of the best polls for Republicans overall.
Among young voters. The eighteen to twenty two the young
demographic that lived with the shutdowns and missed high school,
they're D plus twenty three. Older gen zers are D
plus thirty, so that generational divide, even though they're both
supporting Democrats, is persistent.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Even in this poll.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
The only group of all ages that swung right this
is including boomers, millennials, gen xers. The only group that
have swung right from twenty twenty five to twenty twenty
six are men between eighteen to twenty two.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Let me repeat that.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
The only group that is continuing to swing right are
men between eighteen to twenty two, they're supporting Democrats by
a just a three point margin.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
It's in the margin of error.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
If things improved, which who knows if they will, who
knows if they won't. But if things improved, it's not
impossible that Republicans win. Young men again. Young women, on
the other hand, totally different story. They're supporting Democrats by
a forty four point margin. If you have a young
daughter talking to her about politics, so she doesn't end
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up like one of these women, very important if you're
a conservative. Men between twenty three to twenty nine are
supporting Democrats by a twenty point margin. That's seventeen point
difference from men eighteen to twenty two from twenty three
to thirty twenty three to twenty nine, seventeen points in
that two gen.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Z or age gap.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
But that anyway, that D plus twenty is a fourteen
point swing. Women of the same age are supporting Democrats
by a thirty three point margin. It's a ten point
swing in Democrats direction. Voters between eighteen to twenty and
two said they are more liberal than conservative by fourteen points.
Voters between the ages of twenty three to twenty nine
say them were liberal by nineteen points, once again emphasizing
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that two gen z gap with the COVID lockdowns. That
may seem not seem like a lot, but it feeds
into what I've been saying. There are two gen zers,
and you're supposed to be more liberal when you're younger,
you get more conservative when you get older, but the
opposite is happening with this young demographic of gen Zers.
I'm sure if the poll were to break it down
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even further among like young white men or young Latino
men or whatever, you would see an even bigger DIB.
Given that young black men are overwhelmingly Democrat. Most important
issue to young voters is the cost of living, not surprising.
Corruption is number two, Democracy is number three, Housing, healthcare,
and K through twelve education ran out the top six.
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This is fascinating. The Republican question about who you're going
to vote for not interesting because they included Don Junior
in the poll, and Don Junior is not running, so
it skewed everything. So I'm ignoring that question. But the
question of who would you like to vote for as
a young Democrat in the twenty twenty eight Democratic primary,
top two you'll probably easily guess one AOC and the
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number two person, Kamala Harris. That was interesting Kamala Harris
having support from I guess the people who still root
for brat summer. I'm not exactly sure, but young Democrats
really still feel it for Kamala. I find that fascinating.
It that will cool.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Down or not.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I think there's a real push to get Kamala a
to run again. I'm not lying about it. Other interesting
points of the poll, only four percent of young people
think that the AI should not be regulated. A majority
of Republicans and Democrat want the federal government to regulate it.
And when I asked about anti Semitic beliefs, forty one
percent of people between the ages of twenty three and
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twenty nine believe in at least one anti Semitic belief.
Of the list that they had, it's substantially larger among
black and Latinos than whites. I find I think that's
important to note, just because I think the idea of
who's believing a lot of the anti Semitic beliefs is
kind of incorrect. It's not always white kids from the
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suburbs as much people think that there is, and I
think it's fascinating of all the tested quotes on Israel Palestine.
The person who had the most positive quote among all demographics,
who was actually Chuck Schumer, which was like this bland,
like Israel deserves to be a Jewish state, but should
treat Palasans with respect. That was the most favorable opinion
among all demographics and political parties.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Actually, it was.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
The only quote that actually had a majority score from
both Republicans and Democrats.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I found that fascinating too.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Ted Cruz's hardline stuff didn't win with young people, needed
did Nikki Haley's AOC stuff, and Alan Omars was way
too one sided for Republicans and independents. Chuck Schummer actually
hit the right time, which I thought was interesting. Anyway,
that's the poll. It's an important nugget into an emerging demographic,
especially one that seems split based upon how they experience
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COVID and also who their parents are.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Are their parents Baby boomers? Are their parents? Gen Xers?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Okay, fascinating stuff. Now let's go into politics. I have
an interview with a US Senate kendidate John Fleming. He's
the treasurer for the state of Louisiana. He is making
a bid to oust incumbent Senator Bill Cassidy, He's a
conservative from Louisiana. We're talking issues over AI, nuclear energy, immigration,
the economy, healthcare, you name it. That intry's coming up next.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
With me on today's episode is the Treasure for the
state of Louisiana and Canada for US Senate John Fleming.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Mister Fleming, thank you for coming on this podcast.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Thanks fry.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So, why did you want to go back to Washington?
You would work for the Trump administration. Why'd you want
to go back to Washington as in the Senate and
this capacity.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Well, there's a lot of work left to do, some
which I've worked on previously. I was one of the
leaders in the opposition in twenty nine to twenty ten
against Obamacare, which has actually taken a sick health care
system and made it far worse, where the costs are
going up faster than inflation, probably twice as fast, and
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the money's going into the pockets of CEOs and middlemen
certainly not in the pockets of health care providers and
patients are not getting good value. But there are many
other things. We've got border security to work on. We
still don't have a permanent solution to that problem. We
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need to rebuild our navy. We have an effective navy now,
but still in many ways China is getting ahead of us.
So there's just so much work to do in Washington.
So I'm happy to get back to it.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Well, if you win this primary, and you're in a
three way primary, well there's more than three kinds, but
you're the top three of the in this prime. If
you were to win, your time as the Senator would
exceed that of President Trump's presidency. You will be there
for six years and healing has two more left. What
how do you think that Washington really wants to go
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back to a business that predates Trump?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Well, you know the thing about President Trump is he's
a he's an innovator, he's a problem solver, and he
does it in very unique ways. And he showed us
that we can use some of the tools that we
learn in business. I'm also a businessman as well as
a doctor. I still have three hundred and fifty employees,
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and I watch what President Trump does and I relate
to it very well. Because sometimes you attack a problem,
but then you decide the next step later. You don't
have the full plan because you're not sure how the
other side is going to react, and he does a
great job. Iran is a great example. He keeps changing
his strategy based on the facts on the ground, but
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he'll eventually get there. Most presidents, if it doesn't work
the first time, they give up and throw in the towel.
So I think he has changed the way Washington works
for good. I certainly hope so, and I really look
forward to a new Washington DC.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
When I heard you speak, I heard you speak on
Amend's Republican Group. You spoke a lot of the debt
and the deficit. I thought you spoke very coherently and
very intelligently. You know, the debt is thirty seven trillion,
which is insane. But what's worse than that, in my opinion,
is the fact that we're just used to know a
trillion dollar a year deficit that's just acceptable when it
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wasn't until COVID. How would you tackle that issue?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Well, you make a great point, Ryan, So spending an
extra trillion or two trillion dollars a year that we
don't have works fine until it doesn't. And when it
doesn't and the world realizes that we're not good for
the money, we can never pay it all back. Remember,
there are people lending is this money in the full
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belief that we're going to pay it back someday. So
a lot has to do with really the trust is,
you know, are we going to be able to get
this under control? And it starts by bending that cost
curve down and bending the revenue curve up. And you
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may have heard me talk a little bit about tariffs.
Remember we've been operating for forty fifty years with an
imbalance of trade to trade deficit. We've been given all
the advantages and the jobs and the companies to oversees entities,
and that's one of the reasons why we have this deficit.
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So as we recoup that and we begin to bring
those billions and billions of dollars back into the US,
bring the jobs back, that means we have a stronger
tax base. But we also have got to tighten our budget.
We're paying the way for too many people. I mean,
look at Medicaid and look at SNAP and look at
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housing and all of that. Look in Louisiana today, we
have more people on Medicaid than we do on any
other form of health insurance that's recent in history. It
wasn't like that only a couple of decades ago, and
so we need more people pulling the wagon, a fewer
people riding in the wagon who are otherwise able body citizens.
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So that's where it all begins, right.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, you know you mentioned manufacturing and bringing jobs overseas.
One thing I never understand and it's still not the case,
and it's just maybe a policy idea I want you
to think about. I don't know if you have got
an answer. Why don't Why doesn't the government? The government
is one of the largest purchasers of goods in the country, right,
Why isn't Why don't we have an agreement where the
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Pentagon and the Department Home of Home Security, Department of War,
Why don't they just purchase medical pharmaceutical drugs that were
made in America instead of purchasing them from China. We
could bring our supply chains closer to home if we
just made the government purchased them, even if it's a
tiny higher high price for the government, it's I mean,
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that's it'll be a rounding error on the overall budget.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
You have an opinion about that at all?
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Well, yeah, there's a very good reason why we not
just the military, but other parts of the United States
source these things out of China and Taiwan and places
like that. That's because it's not being made in the
United States. It isn't there. Why isn't it there. Remember
we started the microchip business, We created those, we invented them,
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and it wasn't long. It didn't take many years before
all that went to China and Taiwan. Why because they
so all had cheap labor and all that kind of stuff.
But again that goes back to the trade deficits and
all of that. Our government has not been protecting our
workers and our companies. But Trump is doing a real
good job bringing that back, particularly things that are essential
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that For instance, there are a lot of chips that
we need for national defense, and we have to bring
all that chip production back to the United States because
if we get into war with China, what are we
going to do? Put in an order for more micro
chips from China. That isn't going to work. Also, rare earths,
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We've been getting all of our rare earth from China.
That's one of the reason why the President is looking
at Greenland because there's a lot of rare earth resources there.
So we have to be able to produce it, but
we also have to sustain that manufacturing here, and it
takes a government that supports industrialists in doing that. And
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I do think we're in the process of doing that
now that we know that China is a malign nation
and we can't depend on them any longer.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, I ually have the government demanded that people manufacturing
would come home if we said we're going to purchase it.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I want to ask for immigration. It is the number
one or number two issue perpetually for Republican voters. First,
I want to ask about the Congressman Maria salas Our's bill.
I don't know if you've read it or heard about.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
It would basically be illegalization for all illegal aliens, but
they wouldn't get the right to vote. I'm of I've
put this as she's saying they're going to get the
right to vote. A Democrat will just make them get
the right to vote afterwards. What is your position when
it comes to how to finally tackle illegal immigration.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
We've been through this sort of idea before, that happened
under Reagan and Bush. Well, we'll just go ahead and
accept the ones that are here, but we'll never will
let anymore in and yet somehow more come in. You know,
we can't allow that, and any kind of incremental approach
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to this is nonsense. Democrats love to do that. They'll
set up a situation and get Republicans to compromise, and
then they go right back at it, opening up the
borders once again. Now it's time that if people are
not here legally, they need to go back where they
came from. And they if they do want to migrate,
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immigrate to the United States, they should apply like anyone
else and stand in line. And I don't think that
the line should be inappropriately long for that. But we
should control. We should decide who do we want in
our country. For instance, we don't want sharia law in
this country, and if we have people or groups that
insist on bringing Sharia law, I think that we should
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stop that type of immigration. We should control. We're the
only country in the world that doesn't control who immigrates
to their country. The rest of them, you know, would
never do these things in Canada, does it. Yeah, ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Well, Canada is lucky to have US as a southern
border as our neighbor.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And I'm Mexico.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
When you say the line shouldn't belong. There are a
lot of polls that have shown that Americans, especially Republicans,
want to reduce legal immigration. We bring in over a
million legal immigrants per year through different things, through chain migration,
through family unification, through or asylum through work vias US.
How many legal immigrants do you think should come to
the United States per year or a rough estimate?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
You know what I mean, exact you know.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Ran, I don't have a number. I can't give you
a number because I'm not deep into that subject. What
is more important to me is that we decide who
can come, we as citizens, we as a government, and
that we determine that based on what is the best
interest in the United States. So in some cases, you know,
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we may need more scientists, for instance, in certain areas,
and we've got to open that up. There may be
certain other skill sets that are important. So I just
don't have a number. I can never give you an
arbitrary number about that. I don't think it matters as
much as it does that we should make those kind
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of decisions, and we did in the past and the
early part of the nineteen hundreds, we were very very
careful about how many immigrants we took in and what
kind of skill sets. Somehow that just went crazy by
the time we got to the nineteen seventies eighties, and
of course it just blew apart under Biden. So the
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important thing is that we control our borders and that
we do it in the best interest of the United States.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I would just say one thing.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I agree with you, But I would just say one
thing is that with an Ai revolution that we're undergoing,
the need for workers is not what it was even
ten years ago. And we have an immigrant system built
in the twentieth century for the twentieth century, and increasingly
Republican voters have said we want more restrictions, Muslim immigration
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being a number one topic. They don't want real law.
They're incredibly worried about it. Look what's happening in Texas.
It would ever thought that would happen twenty years ago.
So I think the demands for restriction are very high,
and the push the late from the from the from
the from the from the Chamber of Commerce is always
listening on the back of it. Louisiana is famously an
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energy state, right oil producer or gas natural gas? Do
you would you support and it's just an idea come
to my head recently, specially with a need for more
electricity nuclear energy being built in the United States and Louisia.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Absolutely, there's some amazing breakthroughs in nuclear energy. Number one,
these micro reactors, a small reactor that can apparently run
an entire city. Remember, you know both as a former
member of the United States Navy, I was a physician
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in the Navy, but also as a congressman, I've spent
a fair amount of time on board aircraft carriers. An
aircraft carrier which is a floating city, usually about five
thousand people. You have a nuclear reactor there that powers
everything on that ship. And do you know how often
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you have to change out the nuclear roads and so forth,
once every twenty five years. In fact, a aircraft carrier
will last fifty years with only one refueling for the
entire period of time. And so there's a lot of
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amazing things we can do with nuclear energy. It's safe.
We don't have the three mile islands anymore. That just
doesn't happen under current technology. And also we can reuse
spent fuel. There's actually technology to do that. So I
think it's inevitable. Lit wind and solar is going by
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the wayside. It just doesn't work. We just don't have
the breakthroughs and sites that make that function. But there's
just so many possibilities with nuclear energy.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, France is powered entirely by nuclear energy, and if
France can do it, I don't understand why we can.
And Louisiana is an energy state. I think Louisiana could
produce new forms energy. Speaking my last question, it's related
to Louisana. Louisiana is in the currently building the largest
AI data center in the country. AI people have an
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enormous amount of anxiety about AI, about the idea of
taking jobs, and every once in a while you'll have
an AI CEO go, well, there's a one and four
chance that this will exterminate human life.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
That's a big number.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Why do you support any regulation over AI right now?
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Oh? Absolutely, yes, we need regulation, no question about it.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
All kinds.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Well, first of all, they've done some studies, and even
people who create certain forms of AI have said that
if this were unleashed on society that it could actually
make some very bad decisions. So I think we have
to limit what the control is. For instance, I don't
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think we should put AI in control of our nuclear enterprise,
we might end up with a nuclear launch without even trying.
So they're just certain things. AI should always be a helper,
not the decision maker for things, even though it may
be capable of doing that. So I think it's like
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any new technology. Yes it will destroy some jobs, but
oftentimes creates more and hopefully it'll increase productivity, which means
it requires fewer workers, and yet society in general and
the people who who do work will actually be more
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productive and have a better job and a better paying job.
Remember that demographically, we're losing workers a net on workers
because our birth rates. We have a negative fertility rate
in this country. And that's one of the reasons why
are my podcasts all the time. That's one of the
reasons why we have immigration is because we really don't
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have enough workers in certain fields. So AI could make
us could make up for that, and we can get
more done with fewer workers and then benefit more people.
So I tend to be an optimist. I don't know
of any technological breakthrough that we've had over the last
five hundred years that we would look back and say,
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you know, we ought to quit making cars and let's
go back to horse and buggies. You know, let's get
rid of our laptop computers. Let's go back to regular landlines.
You just don't ever hear anybody say that. And so
I think, if done right and with the proper regulations,
I think AI is going to be fine. But like
any other technology, there are some downsides. We've got to
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be very careful about this.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
One thing I fear, aside from mass job loss, is
we're going to continue one million workers per year coming
into the country and AI, and then we'll have unemployed
immigrants on top unemployed American.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yes. When is the primary election in Louisiana.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
It's May sixteenth. However, mail in ballots have already been sent.
People are already sending those back in and early voting
begins space second.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So I will give you credit.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
You are the hardest work in Canton in this race,
and you are definitely the most conservative cannon in this race.
So absolutely, if you are a conservative in Louisiana, Flemming
as your man. Thank you for coming this podcast. Where
we'll go website social media account people will read more
about you.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Uh. The website is Fleming Senate campaign dot com, Flemming
Senatecampaign dot com.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
And I give you a credit when I saw you
working with voters. You were taking questions on on one
issue after the other that was very varied and different,
and you were very responsible.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I was very impressed with your ability to do retail politics.
So good luck to you. Amazing.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Sixtieth is the primary, and if you're a concerned of Louisiana,
John Fleming is your candidate.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Thank you for coming this podcast. I appreciate it. Thank
you mach for you.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Now it's time for the ask Me Anything segment. If
you want to part of the ask Me Anything segment,
email me Ryan at Numbers Game Podcast dot com. Ryan
Plural Numbers Game Podcast dot com. I'm low on my emails.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I have a few.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I will get to them probably throughout the end of
the week, if not beginning of next week. So if
you want to email me a question, I actuallyft capacity
now to answer them. I'm not backlogs, so send them away.
I'm looking forward to them.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Okay. Question for today also comes from a man named Ryan.
He says, your boy Ryan here.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Obviously we know the Dignity Act is complete BS. I'm
gonna make it clean Ryan for the audience because I'm
trying to run a clean show. Question though, if this
pass and if someone applied they didn't meet the criteria
to get quote unquote dignity, does that mean that they
are okay to debort this person. We know the answer
is no, but haven't heard that yet. Okay, Ryan, So one,
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this bill is nowhere near passing right, doesn't have a
Senate bill to work with it. Salazar puts this bill
up every single time. This is just the most support
that she's ever had from the Republican side of twenty members,
many of whom are retiring. Bacon's retiring, Neil's retiring, There's
a handful of other ones who are retiring or they're
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non voting members like wam is on there. So that's
that The reason I started this pack is what infuriates
me is that Mike Kelly and Marlin Stutsman and Republicans
in super Trump districts with no big illegal alien population
are doing this for corporations. That actually infuriates me, and
that's why I'm doing this pack. But there are a
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handful that are in super Republican districts that should not
have signed on such a bill if they so, what
the bill is if they apply, they cannot be deported
while the application is active.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Who knows? Lawlor and.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Salads are saying that it's up to DHS to figure
out the application process. They're going to be overwhelmed. It's
going to take several years to get through all these applications,
and while the application is in limbo, No, they cannot
be deported.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
It's in the bill.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
What they're going to do afterwards is they're going to
try to appeal to a court, a liberal judge right
after that. Now that says they don't get the appeal
if they were here in the incorrect period of time,
or if they belong to a gang, they're gonna appeal.
They're going to make the appeal. And if Democrats control
the White House, the Presidency, the Senate before then they're
always going to get amnesty. Anyway, I was in a
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conversation with the congressman who was arguing with me about
the bill. A supportive of the bill and said, but ran,
Democrats are going to get give them amnesty if they
get citizenship, And I said, do you think they're not
going to do that because you gave them the Dignity Act.
The problem is not that we don't have enough laws
in the books. Yeah, e verify would be great. Yeah,
(35:24):
reforming our asylum cases would be great, where we don't
have to take people on our soil. All that stuff
would be great. There are things Congress can do. It's minimal, right,
it's not a question if there's laws on the books.
In the nineties, there was a congressman, a Democrat congressman
named Barbara Jordan. She was the first black woman elected
to Texas. She did a commission on I think it
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was a commission actually on income for low income people,
and she found the number one thing that was weighing
people down was immigration, legal and illegal. And she brought
a bill to Congress to President Clinton in to say, okay,
let's revise an immigration policy, no more illegal immigration, and
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let's reduce legal immigration. And it was Republicans in the
House that fought too thin nail to keep high levels
of legal immigration because they were owned by the corporate lobby.
Going back then, Bill Clinton would have actually signed anything
they gave her. At that point, Bill Clinton would have
gone along and done a massive immigration reduction. It's one
of the great misses of Congress and the presidency that
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Social Security reform, like the chances we had to really
fix our country. That was one of the big, big
misses in our recent history. But they gave in on
illegal immigration. They said, let's give Barbara Jordan something. So
they enabled the president to do all sorts of things.
When it came to enforcing immigration law. Clinton signed the
bill but didn't enforce the law. Neither did Bush, neither
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did Obama. Trump is the first one, and especially in
the second term, to really enforce the law. So if
a Democrat president comes into office, it doesn't matter what
you write. It's only on the discretion the executive act
of the executive branch rather to enforce the law. If
we have another majorcis at the head of DHS, he's
gonna let anyone in it. Anyway, They're not going to
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enforce any of the laws. I don't care if you sign, e,
verify or anything like that. It's all about enforcement. The
laws are on the books. There's very little. There's some
stuff for Congress to do, but there's very little overall.
Most of it is depending on the presidency. And it
is at this time that you cannot give up because
the people who see this and who advertising that America
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is going to get amnesty.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Are the cartels? Are the human smugglers?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Are people bringing other people to this country who are
making billions from it?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
You are enabling and enriching them.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
It is disgusting you like, there's it's it's I know
this is not the question, but that.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Is the truth.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
You are enriching the worst segments of society, of any
society in the entire world, human smugglers. That's the point.
So no, they won't get deportation while it's being applied.
They're apparently under the I'll be under review for deportation
at the end. Remember this law also allows them to
have a government paid lawyer. I'm sure they're going to apply,
gonna appeal, They'll find a liberal judge who will throw
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a lot of those restrictions out, and we'll have, you know,
twenty million people who are legally here but not allowed
to vote, which I'm sure they're going to be ruling
as you know, something will be wrong. We'll be talking
about how we're taking advantage of these people and they
just need full citizenship and Democrats will give it to them.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
No matter what.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
That's why I made this.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Packhomeland pack dot Com pack pac pack check it out. Okay,
that's this episode, guys. Appreciate you all for listening. I'll
be back Friday. We are talking about Virginia. It is
a closer race than people expect. I have an expert,
a data nerd with me to.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Talk about that.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Check it out that's coming out on Friday. I will
talk to you guys then
Welcome back to a numbers name with Ryan Gradoski. Thank
you us for being here. We have an action packed
show for you. I have a special announcement, we have
poll numbers. I have an interview with the US Senate candidate.
You're not going to want to miss it. Let's get
into the first thing. If you checked out my social
media yesterday, I have officially launched a new superpack called
Homeland Pack. It's dedicated to defeating pro amnesty Republicans in
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Congress and the House representatives. Maria Salazar's Dignity Bill has
set me off and it's a step too far, and
I think it's time that we hold Republicans accountable. Polls
have shown time and time and time again that Republicans
opinion on immigration, to paraphrase Hillary Clinton, should be safe, legal,
and rare, and supporting amnesty is just not part of
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that equation. And I just don't think that there's anything
we should do that to endorse what their position is
and make it known that if you do this, you're
going to get a primary challenge, and you're going to
have that primary challenge well funded. We want our to
protect our borders, we want to reduce legal immigration and
maybe restricted in certain ways to not every country on Earth.
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We only want immigrants when richer society, instead of bringing
cultures that challenge our country and our social trust. So
this pack is going to be a new passion project
of mine. We're already targeting one pro anasty Republican the
primary this year, maybe a second one, depending if we
have raised the money in time. You know, it's a
multi year thing, and I'm going to make it known
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that you have time if you are a Republican member
of Congress to back away from this bill. You don't
have to own up to this. I won't have to
sit there and spend the money against you, and it
will all just be much happier for it. But that's
my plan. It's a passion project. Hopefully you will check
it out. It is a long way out, sim from
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really campaigning, but we'll see. So you can go to
Homeland pack dot com to read more about it, donate
and see our progress, read up on stuff. But enough
is enough, and I hope that this will be the
beginning of making sure Republicans are held accountable. We need
to tell Republicans in Washington stop selling out this country.
Okay before we go into the polling.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I have to.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Talk about Eric Slowwell, Congressman Eric Slowell, so Slawwell. I
mentioned briefly in the previous episode that he was being
accused while he has stepped out of the race for governor,
and because there's at least four people for women accusing
him of sexual assault and harassment. Guys, I'm gonna be
honest with you, there are a lot more, a lot, lot, lot,
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lot more. I know of at least one woman who
is a friend of mine who he groped in the
back of a car. I know of another friend who
was a lobbyist who had a professional meeting with him,
and within thirty minutes of leaving his office, he was
texting her very inappropriate things. He is a predator, is
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serial predator. Everyone everyone knew that there was something up
of this guy if you had any interaction with him
for five seconds. He is not a good man. And
the person who's running away fastest, this is the interesting part.
The person who's running away fastest from this is Senator
Ruben Gego from Arizona. Now, Gego has not made a
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secret of the fact that he wants to run for
president twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
He's going to Swing states.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
He's building a national fundraising committee or fundraising apparatus, and
he is saying Slawwell had this double life that he.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Did not know, he knew nothing about. How could he know?
No one?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And I'm telling you no one. And I've spoken to
Democrats about this, like in the know believes him. No
one believes him, absolutely, no one believes him. Now, Gago
and Slowell weren't just friends. They were, by their own acclaim,
best friends. Listen to this clip.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Tonight, begin to me my best friend in the world.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Ruben Guido, you would become the national campaign chairman for
Representative Eric Solwell, Democrat for Sullwifornia.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
See, I'm good chairman.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I got to correct.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Well.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, and he's from up my way. I grew up
in the Bay Area. He's an Alamina County guy, w
or Oakland. Yeah, why him? Well, look, we're first of all,
we're best of friends. We actually baby sit each other kids.
Not that that's the only reason, but you know, you
know wants someone you know is hard.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I know it's hard.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
And he also wants somebody I think in his camp
that's going to look out for him and also keep
him honest, because these campaigns can be very difficult. Now
to remind everyone that may not know Gego, who's running
away from Slowa as fast as he can, divorce his
pregnant wife, sealed his court records and then secretly married
a woman fifteen years younger than him that he met
a congressional baseball game.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It's is it a shocker that they were best friends?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
And what exactly is in Reuben Diego's background that he
is not sharing.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I I think we're going to hear more and more
whispers as we get closer and closer to twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Slaw was one of four congressmen facing expulsion hearings this week.
Congress was going to kick out four members, two Republicans
and two Democrats for various corruption and other improprieties. Slowell,
Tony Gonzalez, who have covered a lot in this podcast,
Corey Mills, who have also covered a lot of this podcast,
and Sheila McCormick. Gonzalez and Slawell decided to resign, keeping
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their pensions just FYI before being expolled. Ironically, it's Mills
and McCormick, though, who have the most serious allegations against them,
but received the least amount of attention. Their allegations would
suggest they're far more corrupt allegedly. And of course there
are two. These two are fighting to stay into the
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last second. They need to stay, They need those jobs
in Congress. So we'll be interested to see if Congress
does what's right and kicks them to the curb and
shows a little backbone, or whether Slawwell and Gonzales will
be enough to kind of show they cleaned house even
though they have resigned on their own. Okay, that's the news.
That's the up to date news. Let's get into a
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new poll that came out. That's just it's got incredible information.
So it's a Yale University poll and it puts young voters.
It polls young voters every single year, and it's unique
because they're sample size of young voters is very large,
a lot of a lot of poles sample young voters,
but oftentimes young voters have the smallest demographics, so the
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margin of era is very large. It's very difficult to
get actual details from there. They don't break it down
by anything else becizes their age and within the within
the gen Z population, they don't break it down between
younger gen Z and old gen Z. Only the Yale
University poll does that. Okay, so what are the key takeaways. First,
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Trump's poll numbers are syncing with young voters. We kind
of know this already. It's been pretty obvious for every pole.
According to this Yale University poll, Trump has a twenty
seven percent approval rating with voters under thirty. However, what
we saw in the last election, the twenty twenty four election,
persists today. There are two gen zs, Ryan, what are
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you talking about? Two gen zs? There are two gen zs.
There's the gen Z who got to experience high school
without COVID and are more likely to have boomer parents
versus gen X parents, and they're more likely to be
democratic and be more liberal. And then those are the
ones who experience a government shutdown and lockdown and know
high school and their parents are more likely to be
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gen X. Remember, gen X is more Republican than baby
boomers are. From the start of the Trump administration till now,
favorability among men between the ages of eighteen to twenty
two is down eight points, from negative nineteen to negative
twenty seven. That's actually Trump's best demographic among young voters
is men under the age of twenty three. Now, remember
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the data from David Shore. Trump actually one men under
twenty in the last election. So it's not shocking that
these it's shocking when you hear it, but when you
know all the data, when you've heard a complete record,
it's not that that surprising that young men are the
most ambitious. Support among young women between eighteen and twenty
two has fallen fourteen points and stands at a daunting
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negative fifty four points. You have an extreme difference between
young men and young women, with young women being very
left wing. Let me tell you there's a lot of
young conservative guys who are gonna be in a difficult
position when it comes to finding a wife and trying
to find someone who's compatible on politics and trying to
convert young women. That's that's your goal. Gentlemen, If you
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are a young conservative man and you're dating a woman
and she's either on the fence or she's a mile
left wing, getting married, having kids and making her conservative,
there's no it's a difficult task, but it's absolutely possible.
I've seen I know, I know women in my own life,
by the way, who were Democrats became Republicans base on
who they married, and stuff marriage does affect a lot
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of that. Men between twenty three and twenty nine support
has fallen nine points, from negative twenty four to negative
thirty three. Support among young women from twenty three to
twenty nine, same age group has fallen seven points, from
negative forty to negative forty seven. When it comes to
the generic ballad of who are you going to vote
in the midterms, Democrats lead overall by just two points.
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It's actually one of the best polls for Republicans overall.
Among young voters. The eighteen to twenty two the young
demographic that lived with the shutdowns and missed high school,
they're D plus twenty three. Older gen zers are D
plus thirty, so that generational divide, even though they're both
supporting Democrats, is persistent.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Even in this poll.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
The only group of all ages that swung right this
is including boomers, millennials, gen xers. The only group that
have swung right from twenty twenty five to twenty twenty
six are men between eighteen to twenty two.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Let me repeat that.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
The only group that is continuing to swing right are
men between eighteen to twenty two, they're supporting Democrats by
a just a three point margin.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
It's in the margin of error.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
If things improved, which who knows if they will, who
knows if they won't. But if things improved, it's not
impossible that Republicans win. Young men again. Young women, on
the other hand, totally different story. They're supporting Democrats by
a forty four point margin. If you have a young
daughter talking to her about politics, so she doesn't end
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up like one of these women, very important if you're
a conservative. Men between twenty three to twenty nine are
supporting Democrats by a twenty point margin. That's seventeen point
difference from men eighteen to twenty two from twenty three
to thirty twenty three to twenty nine, seventeen points in
that two gen.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Z or age gap.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
But that anyway, that D plus twenty is a fourteen
point swing. Women of the same age are supporting Democrats
by a thirty three point margin. It's a ten point
swing in Democrats direction. Voters between eighteen to twenty and
two said they are more liberal than conservative by fourteen points.
Voters between the ages of twenty three to twenty nine
say them were liberal by nineteen points, once again emphasizing
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that two gen z gap with the COVID lockdowns. That
may seem not seem like a lot, but it feeds
into what I've been saying. There are two gen zers,
and you're supposed to be more liberal when you're younger,
you get more conservative when you get older, but the
opposite is happening with this young demographic of gen Zers.
I'm sure if the poll were to break it down
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even further among like young white men or young Latino
men or whatever, you would see an even bigger DIB.
Given that young black men are overwhelmingly Democrat. Most important
issue to young voters is the cost of living, not surprising.
Corruption is number two, Democracy is number three, Housing, healthcare,
and K through twelve education ran out the top six.
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This is fascinating. The Republican question about who you're going
to vote for not interesting because they included Don Junior
in the poll, and Don Junior is not running, so
it skewed everything. So I'm ignoring that question. But the
question of who would you like to vote for as
a young Democrat in the twenty twenty eight Democratic primary,
top two you'll probably easily guess one AOC and the
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number two person, Kamala Harris. That was interesting Kamala Harris
having support from I guess the people who still root
for brat summer. I'm not exactly sure, but young Democrats
really still feel it for Kamala. I find that fascinating.
It that will cool.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Down or not.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I think there's a real push to get Kamala a
to run again. I'm not lying about it. Other interesting
points of the poll, only four percent of young people
think that the AI should not be regulated. A majority
of Republicans and Democrat want the federal government to regulate it.
And when I asked about anti Semitic beliefs, forty one
percent of people between the ages of twenty three and
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twenty nine believe in at least one anti Semitic belief.
Of the list that they had, it's substantially larger among
black and Latinos than whites. I find I think that's
important to note, just because I think the idea of
who's believing a lot of the anti Semitic beliefs is
kind of incorrect. It's not always white kids from the
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suburbs as much people think that there is, and I
think it's fascinating of all the tested quotes on Israel Palestine.
The person who had the most positive quote among all demographics,
who was actually Chuck Schumer, which was like this bland,
like Israel deserves to be a Jewish state, but should
treat Palasans with respect. That was the most favorable opinion
among all demographics and political parties.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Actually, it was.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
The only quote that actually had a majority score from
both Republicans and Democrats.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I found that fascinating too.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Ted Cruz's hardline stuff didn't win with young people, needed
did Nikki Haley's AOC stuff, and Alan Omars was way
too one sided for Republicans and independents. Chuck Schummer actually
hit the right time, which I thought was interesting. Anyway,
that's the poll. It's an important nugget into an emerging demographic,
especially one that seems split based upon how they experience
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COVID and also who their parents are.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Are their parents Baby boomers? Are their parents? Gen Xers?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Okay, fascinating stuff. Now let's go into politics. I have
an interview with a US Senate kendidate John Fleming. He's
the treasurer for the state of Louisiana. He is making
a bid to oust incumbent Senator Bill Cassidy, He's a
conservative from Louisiana. We're talking issues over AI, nuclear energy, immigration,
the economy, healthcare, you name it. That intry's coming up next.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
With me on today's episode is the Treasure for the
state of Louisiana and Canada for US Senate John Fleming.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Mister Fleming, thank you for coming on this podcast.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Thanks fry.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So, why did you want to go back to Washington?
You would work for the Trump administration. Why'd you want
to go back to Washington as in the Senate and
this capacity.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Well, there's a lot of work left to do, some
which I've worked on previously. I was one of the
leaders in the opposition in twenty nine to twenty ten
against Obamacare, which has actually taken a sick health care
system and made it far worse, where the costs are
going up faster than inflation, probably twice as fast, and
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the money's going into the pockets of CEOs and middlemen
certainly not in the pockets of health care providers and
patients are not getting good value. But there are many
other things. We've got border security to work on. We
still don't have a permanent solution to that problem. We
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need to rebuild our navy. We have an effective navy now,
but still in many ways China is getting ahead of us.
So there's just so much work to do in Washington.
So I'm happy to get back to it.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Well, if you win this primary, and you're in a
three way primary, well there's more than three kinds, but
you're the top three of the in this prime. If
you were to win, your time as the Senator would
exceed that of President Trump's presidency. You will be there
for six years and healing has two more left. What
how do you think that Washington really wants to go
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back to a business that predates Trump?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Well, you know the thing about President Trump is he's
a he's an innovator, he's a problem solver, and he
does it in very unique ways. And he showed us
that we can use some of the tools that we
learn in business. I'm also a businessman as well as
a doctor. I still have three hundred and fifty employees,
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and I watch what President Trump does and I relate
to it very well. Because sometimes you attack a problem,
but then you decide the next step later. You don't
have the full plan because you're not sure how the
other side is going to react, and he does a
great job. Iran is a great example. He keeps changing
his strategy based on the facts on the ground, but
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he'll eventually get there. Most presidents, if it doesn't work
the first time, they give up and throw in the towel.
So I think he has changed the way Washington works
for good. I certainly hope so, and I really look
forward to a new Washington DC.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
When I heard you speak, I heard you speak on
Amend's Republican Group. You spoke a lot of the debt
and the deficit. I thought you spoke very coherently and
very intelligently. You know, the debt is thirty seven trillion,
which is insane. But what's worse than that, in my opinion,
is the fact that we're just used to know a
trillion dollar a year deficit that's just acceptable when it
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wasn't until COVID. How would you tackle that issue?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Well, you make a great point, Ryan, So spending an
extra trillion or two trillion dollars a year that we
don't have works fine until it doesn't. And when it
doesn't and the world realizes that we're not good for
the money, we can never pay it all back. Remember,
there are people lending is this money in the full
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belief that we're going to pay it back someday. So
a lot has to do with really the trust is,
you know, are we going to be able to get
this under control? And it starts by bending that cost
curve down and bending the revenue curve up. And you
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may have heard me talk a little bit about tariffs.
Remember we've been operating for forty fifty years with an
imbalance of trade to trade deficit. We've been given all
the advantages and the jobs and the companies to oversees entities,
and that's one of the reasons why we have this deficit.
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So as we recoup that and we begin to bring
those billions and billions of dollars back into the US,
bring the jobs back, that means we have a stronger
tax base. But we also have got to tighten our budget.
We're paying the way for too many people. I mean,
look at Medicaid and look at SNAP and look at
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housing and all of that. Look in Louisiana today, we
have more people on Medicaid than we do on any
other form of health insurance that's recent in history. It
wasn't like that only a couple of decades ago, and
so we need more people pulling the wagon, a fewer
people riding in the wagon who are otherwise able body citizens.
(19:38):
So that's where it all begins, right.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, you know you mentioned manufacturing and bringing jobs overseas.
One thing I never understand and it's still not the case,
and it's just maybe a policy idea I want you
to think about. I don't know if you have got
an answer. Why don't Why doesn't the government? The government
is one of the largest purchasers of goods in the country, right,
Why isn't Why don't we have an agreement where the
(20:02):
Pentagon and the Department Home of Home Security, Department of War,
Why don't they just purchase medical pharmaceutical drugs that were
made in America instead of purchasing them from China. We
could bring our supply chains closer to home if we
just made the government purchased them, even if it's a
tiny higher high price for the government, it's I mean,
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that's it'll be a rounding error on the overall budget.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
You have an opinion about that at all?
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Well, yeah, there's a very good reason why we not
just the military, but other parts of the United States
source these things out of China and Taiwan and places
like that. That's because it's not being made in the
United States. It isn't there. Why isn't it there. Remember
we started the microchip business, We created those, we invented them,
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and it wasn't long. It didn't take many years before
all that went to China and Taiwan. Why because they
so all had cheap labor and all that kind of stuff.
But again that goes back to the trade deficits and
all of that. Our government has not been protecting our
workers and our companies. But Trump is doing a real
good job bringing that back, particularly things that are essential
(21:17):
that For instance, there are a lot of chips that
we need for national defense, and we have to bring
all that chip production back to the United States because
if we get into war with China, what are we
going to do? Put in an order for more micro
chips from China. That isn't going to work. Also, rare earths,
(21:38):
We've been getting all of our rare earth from China.
That's one of the reason why the President is looking
at Greenland because there's a lot of rare earth resources there.
So we have to be able to produce it, but
we also have to sustain that manufacturing here, and it
takes a government that supports industrialists in doing that. And
(21:59):
I do think we're in the process of doing that
now that we know that China is a malign nation
and we can't depend on them any longer.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, I ually have the government demanded that people manufacturing
would come home if we said we're going to purchase it.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I want to ask for immigration. It is the number
one or number two issue perpetually for Republican voters. First,
I want to ask about the Congressman Maria salas Our's bill.
I don't know if you've read it or heard about.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
It would basically be illegalization for all illegal aliens, but
they wouldn't get the right to vote. I'm of I've
put this as she's saying they're going to get the
right to vote. A Democrat will just make them get
the right to vote afterwards. What is your position when
it comes to how to finally tackle illegal immigration.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
We've been through this sort of idea before, that happened
under Reagan and Bush. Well, we'll just go ahead and
accept the ones that are here, but we'll never will
let anymore in and yet somehow more come in. You know,
we can't allow that, and any kind of incremental approach
(23:05):
to this is nonsense. Democrats love to do that. They'll
set up a situation and get Republicans to compromise, and
then they go right back at it, opening up the
borders once again. Now it's time that if people are
not here legally, they need to go back where they
came from. And they if they do want to migrate,
(23:26):
immigrate to the United States, they should apply like anyone
else and stand in line. And I don't think that
the line should be inappropriately long for that. But we
should control. We should decide who do we want in
our country. For instance, we don't want sharia law in
this country, and if we have people or groups that
insist on bringing Sharia law, I think that we should
(23:48):
stop that type of immigration. We should control. We're the
only country in the world that doesn't control who immigrates
to their country. The rest of them, you know, would
never do these things in Canada, does it. Yeah, ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Well, Canada is lucky to have US as a southern
border as our neighbor.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And I'm Mexico.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
When you say the line shouldn't belong. There are a
lot of polls that have shown that Americans, especially Republicans,
want to reduce legal immigration. We bring in over a
million legal immigrants per year through different things, through chain migration,
through family unification, through or asylum through work vias US.
How many legal immigrants do you think should come to
the United States per year or a rough estimate?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
You know what I mean, exact you know.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Ran, I don't have a number. I can't give you
a number because I'm not deep into that subject. What
is more important to me is that we decide who
can come, we as citizens, we as a government, and
that we determine that based on what is the best
interest in the United States. So in some cases, you know,
(24:55):
we may need more scientists, for instance, in certain areas,
and we've got to open that up. There may be
certain other skill sets that are important. So I just
don't have a number. I can never give you an
arbitrary number about that. I don't think it matters as
much as it does that we should make those kind
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of decisions, and we did in the past and the
early part of the nineteen hundreds, we were very very
careful about how many immigrants we took in and what
kind of skill sets. Somehow that just went crazy by
the time we got to the nineteen seventies eighties, and
of course it just blew apart under Biden. So the
(25:39):
important thing is that we control our borders and that
we do it in the best interest of the United States.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I would just say one thing.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I agree with you, But I would just say one
thing is that with an Ai revolution that we're undergoing,
the need for workers is not what it was even
ten years ago. And we have an immigrant system built
in the twentieth century for the twentieth century, and increasingly
Republican voters have said we want more restrictions, Muslim immigration
(26:09):
being a number one topic. They don't want real law.
They're incredibly worried about it. Look what's happening in Texas.
It would ever thought that would happen twenty years ago.
So I think the demands for restriction are very high,
and the push the late from the from the from
the from the from the Chamber of Commerce is always
listening on the back of it. Louisiana is famously an
(26:31):
energy state, right oil producer or gas natural gas? Do
you would you support and it's just an idea come
to my head recently, specially with a need for more
electricity nuclear energy being built in the United States and Louisia.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Absolutely, there's some amazing breakthroughs in nuclear energy. Number one,
these micro reactors, a small reactor that can apparently run
an entire city. Remember, you know both as a former
member of the United States Navy, I was a physician
(27:05):
in the Navy, but also as a congressman, I've spent
a fair amount of time on board aircraft carriers. An
aircraft carrier which is a floating city, usually about five
thousand people. You have a nuclear reactor there that powers
everything on that ship. And do you know how often
(27:26):
you have to change out the nuclear roads and so forth,
once every twenty five years. In fact, a aircraft carrier
will last fifty years with only one refueling for the
entire period of time. And so there's a lot of
(27:48):
amazing things we can do with nuclear energy. It's safe.
We don't have the three mile islands anymore. That just
doesn't happen under current technology. And also we can reuse
spent fuel. There's actually technology to do that. So I
think it's inevitable. Lit wind and solar is going by
(28:08):
the wayside. It just doesn't work. We just don't have
the breakthroughs and sites that make that function. But there's
just so many possibilities with nuclear energy.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, France is powered entirely by nuclear energy, and if
France can do it, I don't understand why we can.
And Louisiana is an energy state. I think Louisiana could
produce new forms energy. Speaking my last question, it's related
to Louisana. Louisiana is in the currently building the largest
AI data center in the country. AI people have an
(28:41):
enormous amount of anxiety about AI, about the idea of
taking jobs, and every once in a while you'll have
an AI CEO go, well, there's a one and four
chance that this will exterminate human life.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
That's a big number.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Why do you support any regulation over AI right now?
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Oh? Absolutely, yes, we need regulation, no question about it.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
All kinds.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Well, first of all, they've done some studies, and even
people who create certain forms of AI have said that
if this were unleashed on society that it could actually
make some very bad decisions. So I think we have
to limit what the control is. For instance, I don't
(29:25):
think we should put AI in control of our nuclear enterprise,
we might end up with a nuclear launch without even trying.
So they're just certain things. AI should always be a helper,
not the decision maker for things, even though it may
be capable of doing that. So I think it's like
(29:48):
any new technology. Yes it will destroy some jobs, but
oftentimes creates more and hopefully it'll increase productivity, which means
it requires fewer workers, and yet society in general and
the people who who do work will actually be more
(30:09):
productive and have a better job and a better paying job.
Remember that demographically, we're losing workers a net on workers
because our birth rates. We have a negative fertility rate
in this country. And that's one of the reasons why
are my podcasts all the time. That's one of the
reasons why we have immigration is because we really don't
(30:33):
have enough workers in certain fields. So AI could make
us could make up for that, and we can get
more done with fewer workers and then benefit more people.
So I tend to be an optimist. I don't know
of any technological breakthrough that we've had over the last
five hundred years that we would look back and say,
(30:55):
you know, we ought to quit making cars and let's
go back to horse and buggies. You know, let's get
rid of our laptop computers. Let's go back to regular landlines.
You just don't ever hear anybody say that. And so
I think, if done right and with the proper regulations,
I think AI is going to be fine. But like
any other technology, there are some downsides. We've got to
(31:19):
be very careful about this.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
One thing I fear, aside from mass job loss, is
we're going to continue one million workers per year coming
into the country and AI, and then we'll have unemployed
immigrants on top unemployed American.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yes. When is the primary election in Louisiana.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
It's May sixteenth. However, mail in ballots have already been sent.
People are already sending those back in and early voting
begins space second.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So I will give you credit.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
You are the hardest work in Canton in this race,
and you are definitely the most conservative cannon in this race.
So absolutely, if you are a conservative in Louisiana, Flemming
as your man. Thank you for coming this podcast. Where
we'll go website social media account people will read more
about you.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Uh. The website is Fleming Senate campaign dot com, Flemming
Senatecampaign dot com.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
And I give you a credit when I saw you
working with voters. You were taking questions on on one
issue after the other that was very varied and different,
and you were very responsible.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I was very impressed with your ability to do retail politics.
So good luck to you. Amazing.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Sixtieth is the primary, and if you're a concerned of Louisiana,
John Fleming is your candidate.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Thank you for coming this podcast. I appreciate it. Thank
you mach for you.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Now it's time for the ask Me Anything segment. If
you want to part of the ask Me Anything segment,
email me Ryan at Numbers Game Podcast dot com. Ryan
Plural Numbers Game Podcast dot com. I'm low on my emails.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I have a few.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I will get to them probably throughout the end of
the week, if not beginning of next week. So if
you want to email me a question, I actuallyft capacity
now to answer them. I'm not backlogs, so send them away.
I'm looking forward to them.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Okay. Question for today also comes from a man named Ryan.
He says, your boy Ryan here.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Obviously we know the Dignity Act is complete BS. I'm
gonna make it clean Ryan for the audience because I'm
trying to run a clean show. Question though, if this
pass and if someone applied they didn't meet the criteria
to get quote unquote dignity, does that mean that they
are okay to debort this person. We know the answer
is no, but haven't heard that yet. Okay, Ryan, So one,
(33:30):
this bill is nowhere near passing right, doesn't have a
Senate bill to work with it. Salazar puts this bill
up every single time. This is just the most support
that she's ever had from the Republican side of twenty members,
many of whom are retiring. Bacon's retiring, Neil's retiring, There's
a handful of other ones who are retiring or they're
(33:50):
non voting members like wam is on there. So that's
that The reason I started this pack is what infuriates
me is that Mike Kelly and Marlin Stutsman and Republicans
in super Trump districts with no big illegal alien population
are doing this for corporations. That actually infuriates me, and
that's why I'm doing this pack. But there are a
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handful that are in super Republican districts that should not
have signed on such a bill if they so, what
the bill is if they apply, they cannot be deported
while the application is active.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Who knows? Lawlor and.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Salads are saying that it's up to DHS to figure
out the application process. They're going to be overwhelmed. It's
going to take several years to get through all these applications,
and while the application is in limbo, No, they cannot
be deported.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
It's in the bill.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
What they're going to do afterwards is they're going to
try to appeal to a court, a liberal judge right
after that. Now that says they don't get the appeal
if they were here in the incorrect period of time,
or if they belong to a gang, they're gonna appeal.
They're going to make the appeal. And if Democrats control
the White House, the Presidency, the Senate before then they're
always going to get amnesty. Anyway, I was in a
(35:03):
conversation with the congressman who was arguing with me about
the bill. A supportive of the bill and said, but ran,
Democrats are going to get give them amnesty if they
get citizenship, And I said, do you think they're not
going to do that because you gave them the Dignity Act.
The problem is not that we don't have enough laws
in the books. Yeah, e verify would be great. Yeah,
(35:24):
reforming our asylum cases would be great, where we don't
have to take people on our soil. All that stuff
would be great. There are things Congress can do. It's minimal, right,
it's not a question if there's laws on the books.
In the nineties, there was a congressman, a Democrat congressman
named Barbara Jordan. She was the first black woman elected
to Texas. She did a commission on I think it
(35:44):
was a commission actually on income for low income people,
and she found the number one thing that was weighing
people down was immigration, legal and illegal. And she brought
a bill to Congress to President Clinton in to say, okay,
let's revise an immigration policy, no more illegal immigration, and
(36:05):
let's reduce legal immigration. And it was Republicans in the
House that fought too thin nail to keep high levels
of legal immigration because they were owned by the corporate lobby.
Going back then, Bill Clinton would have actually signed anything
they gave her. At that point, Bill Clinton would have
gone along and done a massive immigration reduction. It's one
of the great misses of Congress and the presidency that
(36:28):
Social Security reform, like the chances we had to really
fix our country. That was one of the big, big
misses in our recent history. But they gave in on
illegal immigration. They said, let's give Barbara Jordan something. So
they enabled the president to do all sorts of things.
When it came to enforcing immigration law. Clinton signed the
bill but didn't enforce the law. Neither did Bush, neither
(36:49):
did Obama. Trump is the first one, and especially in
the second term, to really enforce the law. So if
a Democrat president comes into office, it doesn't matter what
you write. It's only on the discretion the executive act
of the executive branch rather to enforce the law. If
we have another majorcis at the head of DHS, he's
gonna let anyone in it. Anyway, They're not going to
(37:09):
enforce any of the laws. I don't care if you sign, e,
verify or anything like that. It's all about enforcement. The
laws are on the books. There's very little. There's some
stuff for Congress to do, but there's very little overall.
Most of it is depending on the presidency. And it
is at this time that you cannot give up because
the people who see this and who advertising that America
(37:31):
is going to get amnesty.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Are the cartels? Are the human smugglers?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Are people bringing other people to this country who are
making billions from it?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
You are enabling and enriching them.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
It is disgusting you like, there's it's it's I know
this is not the question, but that.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Is the truth.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
You are enriching the worst segments of society, of any
society in the entire world, human smugglers. That's the point.
So no, they won't get deportation while it's being applied.
They're apparently under the I'll be under review for deportation
at the end. Remember this law also allows them to
have a government paid lawyer. I'm sure they're going to apply,
gonna appeal, They'll find a liberal judge who will throw
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a lot of those restrictions out, and we'll have, you know,
twenty million people who are legally here but not allowed
to vote, which I'm sure they're going to be ruling
as you know, something will be wrong. We'll be talking
about how we're taking advantage of these people and they
just need full citizenship and Democrats will give it to them.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
No matter what.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
That's why I made this.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Packhomeland pack dot Com pack pac pack check it out. Okay,
that's this episode, guys. Appreciate you all for listening. I'll
be back Friday. We are talking about Virginia. It is
a closer race than people expect. I have an expert,
a data nerd with me to.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Talk about that.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Check it out that's coming out on Friday. I will
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