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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to a Numbers game with Brian Grodski. Thank
you guys for being here. So on this program, I
have talked a lot about politicians and taking them to task.
People who pretend to be one thing in public and
in private are monsters. And I've mostly focused on my
own party, people like Corey Mills and Tony Gonzalez, who
just recently dropped out of his re election campaign. But
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today I'm going to talk about a Democrat, one of
the most deceitful people running for office this year. His
name is Graham Plattner, and he's running for the Democratic
nomination for the US Senate in Maine against incumbent Governor
Jenna Mills in the primary and against Susan Collins, the
incumbent Center in the general. Potner has quickly become a
progressive Darling are in the endorsement of Bernie Sanders, Ruben Diego,
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David Hogg, gen Z for Change Our Revolution, and the
Anti Israel track APAK. He's raised millions of dollars across
the country, mostly from small dollar donors, close to eight
million more in the last quarter than either the governor
or the Senator. He's raised, and he's raised him on
the back of the campaign that he is a true
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working class advocate, you know, and it's working. That plot,
that plan, that selling point is working. Right now. He's
got a very significant lead in the primary and a
smaller but respectful one in the general. In the last
six public poles, Platner led by an average of twelve
point five points against Janet Mills and three and a
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half points against Susan Collins. Planners spent the majority of
his campaign really honing in on that working class image.
He's just an everyman, you know. He's the real version
of what Pete put to Judge and Beto O'Rourke and
Tim Wallas and James tallergo pretend to be. He's speaking
to the masters. He's a veteran and he's an oyster farmer,
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and he wants to know over and over again, I'm
just a veteran and an oyster farmer. And to his credit,
I will give him credit something. He did serve in
the Iraq War. He signed up in two thousand and three,
stating to the New Report Public that even though he
protests the war before signing up, he's still signed up
to serve and went to combat he said his inspiration
for serving was he read a lot of Ernest Hemingway.
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I just want you to hear that again. He read
Ernest Hemingway at seventeen, and that's why he decided to
go to war in Iraq. Of course, being something of
an upstart and a fighter really came very easily to Platt.
Very early in his yearbooks. Yearbook's perlative, he was known
as the most likely to start a revolution, and he
hid up a sign as yearbook stating free Kosovo, Chechnya, Kashmir, Palestine,
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Kurdistan and Tibet. All of those are subjugated lands. They're
all just suffering from colonization. And he's anti colonization and
from the right bold age of seventeen. That's what he
wanted you to know about him. Now, he likes to
create the narrat that he was radicalized by his time
overseas fighting in Iraq, but clearly that's not true. He's
always been a Champagne socialist, and the keyword in there
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is Champagne. We'll come back to in the second. Anyway,
he served for combat duties and he suffered from PTSD.
He went to college on the gi Build in twenty twenty,
he took over an oyster farm, which he says doesn't
earn a lot of money, but him and his wife
are able to get by over the nearly five thousand
dollars a month he receives in benefits as a disabled veteran.
That's about his blue collar as it gets right, veteran
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oyster farmer. He's like the main version of Dan Connor
from Roseanne. He's just an all around working class guy.
Only Graham doesn't come from any version of a hard
scrabbled existence. See when he went to primary school, he
went to a place called Hotchkiss, which is a private
boarding school in Lakeville, Connecticut, and then he went to
John Baptist Memorial. You may ask, wow, that sounds expensive.
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You know that's a boarding school. Yeah, it was a
very expensive school in today's dollars. Lakeville currently costs over
seventy thousand dollars a year, and from my best search,
John Baptist Memorial is about twelve five hundred, much more
reasonable than the first school, but still expensive. Not exactly
a place at a working class person can afford to
send their kids. And I get that it was years
ago because he's in I think he's forty one now,
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but nonetheless it was expensive no matter when he went. See,
Planner doesn't come from a working class background, despite all
the flannel that he wears in the campaign trail, His
grandfather was one of the world's most renowned architects and
interior designers. You could still buy his furniture and it
costs upwards of twenty thousand dollars per chair. His father
was also a very successful lawyer. Graham likes to cause
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play that he is his underdog, and to a point,
he is against the governor and the Senator, but his
family has long standing political ties in Maine. It's not
a case of mister Smith goes to Washington. His father,
Bronson Planners, served as the assistant district attorney in Maine,
ran unsuccessfully for the state Senate, and chaired a board
of a local nonprofit that maintained close ties to the
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Senate majority leader, former Secretary of Defense, and former main governor.
Plantner's rugged exterior should be offensive to working class people
the same way it was offensive to black people that
in the day. In the early days of the movies,
white actors would put on black face pretending to be
something that they are not. How wealthy is Platner's family,
we don't know, but his father's wealthy enough they could
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drop sixty thousand dollars to support Democratic candidates running for
office over the last fifteen years. And that doesn't even
include money he gave two local candidates running just in Maine.
That's just federal candidates. Sixty grand in ten years. Not
many people can afford to do that unless they have
a lot of money, So the Working Class Act is
really a facade. Graham says he doesn't own any socks,
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and he doesn't, but you really don't need to when
you likely have an inheritance. Look, I don't fault anyone
for making a lot of money. I don't fault anybody
for want to give that money to kids or protecting
their children. That's totally honorable and admirable. What I do
find something that needs to be held account is people
lying and lying all the time, which is i thing
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Graham seems to have a problem with. He has a
very unheal healthy relationship with the truth. Let's start with
the Graham's infamous tattoo. Now, this is the story you
may have actually heard about Graham Plattner was revealed he
had a Nazi tattoo on his chest at the Nazi
skull and crossbones. It was called tunkoff. I believe this
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way he pronounced it. It probably isn't, because you guys know,
I'm not great at pronouncing things. He apologized. He said
he got another tattoo to cover it up. He said
he received the tattoo in two thousand and seven and
he was on leave in Croatia on a drunken night
with his military buddies, and he said that he was
totally unaware that it was that it had a connection
to Hitler and the Nazis, And he told pot Save
America he's covered up and he's not a secret Nazi.
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He wants you to know I'm not a secret Nazi.
He also proclaimed during the podcast that he was a
World War Two with history buff, which is I figure
a World War Two issue buff might know you know
what the skull and crossbows meant. And he says that
he's been an anti fascist since he was twelve years old.
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That seems hell for what a twelve year old should
be thinking about. I don't know you, I was a
twelve I was probably watching X Men. I don't really
think that I was thinking about fascism, but Graham Planner
once you know, he's been doing this for a long time. CNN, though,
reported that into as early as twenty twenty, Graham's friend
said that he described it as a Nazi styles had too,
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But I'm sure that's just probably the only time Graham
seemed to connect himself with anti Jewish and authoritarianism, right, Like,
he couldn't possibly have more connections with people who were
anti Semitic and authoritarian wrong. See as recently as twenty
twenty one, when he was the ripe age of thirty six,
Graham called himself a communist and a recreational drug user.
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He said, I'm a vegetable growing, psychedelic tasting socialist these days,
and then said, in fact, I got older and became
a communist. That would explain why. In recent videos, Graham
has said that the United States should be working in
cooperation with the Chinese Communist Party, not in opposition. You
know that regime, that government that puts their own citizens
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in internment camps, forces abortion, it's like five minutes ago,
manipulates their currency, steals our ip and funds our enemies.
We should be working with them. That's Graham Platter's idea
foreign policy. We should just give them a big grand
Platiner bear hug. It was while he was writing on
these he's see this is how you know, like he
like millennials as a generation. We're gonna have a rough
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time running for office, most of us. Because he seemed
to love Reddit. He wrote on Reddit a lot, and
that's where he wrote those comments of being a communist.
Now he has since said, listen, I'm not a communist.
I'm not a socialist. I'm a small business owner. Don't
believe what I wrote on Reddit. I'm just a small
business owner. He's a small business owner of a business
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that he doesn't draw a salary from. See nothing nothing
makes sense. Graham wasn't young when he wrote this. He
wasn't a child. He was close to middle age when
he declared that he was a communist. And as he
gets older, he came more of a communist. And I
want you to remember he said communist, not democratic socialist.
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He didn't align himself with like Bernie Sanders' ideology. He
said communism the ideology that killed sixty to one hundred
million people in the twentieth century. Communists. When you look
at the death toll, make Nazis look like child's play.
Probably why his Nazi tattoo didn't bother him that much.
NBC News asked for him about this, and he said,
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I want to talk about my evolution as a human being.
He said, a lot of Americans also want to have
the hope that you can change and you can evolve,
and then we can be in a society with grace
and forgiveness to people. Because if we can't, if we
can't think of people as just ossified into who they
are right now and can ever be something different than
what's the point? This is such a nonsensical comment, right,
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This wasn't This is from twenty twenty one. He wasn't
a teenager. I don't believe a fifteen year old should
be held a council for what they write on social
media for their whole entire life. You were thirty, dude,
You were not a kid. This is not a million
years ago. This was six years ago. But he does
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you know all this evolving And apparently he hasn't evolved
from Graham's big Jewish question. See, Planner has a tendency
to just accidentally keep finding himself around people who really
don't like Jews, and it's not like they're you know,
they're coming to him. He somehow is finding them. In
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January twenty twenty sixth a few months ago, he appeared
on a YouTube podcast hosted by Nate Kronaccia. I'm guarantee
you I'm slaughtering his last name. I've never watched him.
You know why I've never watched him. He's a very
well known anti Semitic conspiracy theorist who promoted Holocaust deniers.
He has a long history of making up for the
conspiracies at Israel is behind the Kennedy assassination nine to
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eleven and the death of Charlie Kirk. He also that
October seventh in Israel was a false flag operation. Now
maybe Graham didn't know that before he was going on
to show. Maybe you know, a PR producer booked him
on a show. But when he was on the show,
he said, I'm a longtime listener and fan. Well that's weird.
The guy with the Nazi tattoo who calls himself a
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communist till he was thirty six, is a longtime fan
of about anti Semitic conspiracy theorist, it will almost be
a coincidence. And then on February twenty six, retweeted the
social media comments of Stu Peters, another prominent Holocaust and
i are who called Judaism a death cult. Graham said
this was just another error. He deleted the post. It's
just another coincidences. Graham is full of just ending up
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in coincidences. Graham's excuse for all this just saysn't no,
He's just joking on the internet. He doesn't know, he
doesn't know. It's just all a joke. Here's the thing
that I know. When the same thing keeps happening over
and over and over, it tends not to be a coincidence. Now,
let's talk about some public policy positions on the issues
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that I think is really important that he may not
want you to know. That's coming up next. So, as
I said in the first event, Graham Planner is a
man of coincidence. Things just happened to him. Nazi tattoos,
support for anti Semitic podcaster retweeting Holocaust deniers claiming you're
a communist into your mid thirties, only to say afterwards,
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it's just not if it's true, it's just you know,
a series of things that have happened to me. He's
just a blue collar guy who spent his childhood at
expensive boarding schools, with deep local political connections. Who's really
a man of the people. Although the man's character leaves
a lot of questions, what are some policies that he's
running on and talking about? One in his campagn announcement,
he gives a lot of populis platitudes that life for
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working class people and maina it's unaffordable because of billionaires
and corrupt politicians. You know, those are to blame. He says,
the billionaires are driving us into poverty. Doesn't really explain how,
but he's a that's a hot take. His solution to
these problems is universal health care, no more wars, and
more money for veterans. So basically, you're you know, you're
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the same talking points from Bernie style, Bernie Sanders style
Democrats all it is, only that's not the only thing
he's always said. See Graham as a guy. Once they
said once again he loved reddit, he loved forms, he
loved to talk all the time, well into his mid thirties.
When it's you know, I get when you're a teenager
and you're bored after school and you write on social
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media when you're in your mid thirties, you should be
doing a little bit more than posting on Reddit. Graham
had some strong opinions that I don't think they're making
into his ads anytime soon. Graham was deeply obsessed with
a Black Lives Matter movement and the defund the police
movement in twenty twenty one. Shocking. I know, with that
kind of background, you can't believe that a guy like
that is really into the deep fund the police movement.
He posted quote, all cops are bastards and miss police
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conduct is a quote problem that extends deep into the
profession as a whole end quote. See here's how you know.
By the way, the whole working class thing is a
shtick and an utter lie. Police aren't just a force
to protect innocent people. I mean they are that, and
that is extremely important. But from a working class perspective,
someone who actually working class, whose father was actually a cop,
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whose uncles were actually cops, and they grew up real poor,
the police aren't just a force to protect people. It
is a ladder of social prosperity. If you are working class,
like really working class and college is just not your thing.
It's out of reach financially, it's you didn't You're just
not from an education background. You don't have those kinds
of brains. You want to take out student loans. How
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do you manage to get into the middle class. You
join a public sector union like the police, like a
civil servant. Job can give you the ladder of opportunity
to make it to the middle class in one generation.
There is a deep economic factor behind the police that
working class people understand that people like Graham Planner do
not because he's not working class. He is a show pony.
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Now his opinions on police not shockingly extend to ICE.
He doesn't want to reform ICE, he wants to disband it.
No immigration enforcement whatsoever. But rest assured Graham actually is
for some type of you know, law and order. It's
just a poweramilitary organization. I'm not joking when I say that,
because Graham belong. This is according to the Main Wire.
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Graham was an active member and taught instruction at the
main Socialist Rifle Association. You may remember when he said
he was, you know, a socialist, He said he wasn't
a socialist. He not only was a socialist and that
was a communist, but he actually participated and taught advanced
firearm instruction to a power military group, surely after the
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Black Lives Matter movement led to a rise of riots
across the country. Once again, he was thirty five years
old when he did this. He took all his training
in the military. And by the way, he worked for black
Water something else he doesn't like to talk about. They
worked for a private military organization and he used all
those advanced socialist you know, skills for a socialist agenda
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for a socialist power military organization that just may need
them for self defense. Wonder why. Once again, that also
came from a Reddit postman this guy I love posting
on Reddit back in twenty thirteen. He also posts that
black people are poor tippers at restaurants and so that
sexual assault victims need to take responsibility and accountability. But
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sexual assault victims Jews police. They are in his only target,
Graham's Graham Platner's ir runs deep. He also really doesn't
like the same people in Maine He's pretending to support
rural whites. See, Maine has the largest population of rural
hits in New England, and they actually split their electoral
College votes by congressional district in the presidential election. It's
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one of only two states besides Nebraska to do that.
So Main Second District, which is basically one hundred percent rural,
they vote for Trump and they give one electoral College
vote for Trump. In the last three presidential elections, Trump
won Main Second District by ten points in twenty twenty, four,
seven points in twenty twenty, and ten points in twenty sixteen.
Back in twenty twenty, someone in his reditfeed said white
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people aren't racist or stupid as Trump thinks, and Graham replied,
living in white rural America, I'm afraid to tell you
they actually are. Once again, he wants everyone to look away.
He says he this is what he says. Now, he's
just a white guy from I'm just a white guy
from rural Maine. I know these people, and I'm not
a racist. Why would Graham say such a thing? Though
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this is in twenty twenty, he is well into his
mid thirties when he's saying white rural whites are stupid,
and Maine has a large population of rural whites, especially
given that Main Second congressional district, that same district he's
talking about being follow stupid people. They voted for Obama twice,
they voted for Kerry, they voted for Gore, and they
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voted for Clinton. So why would they vote for Donald Trump?
Is because they're stupid? Or is it because their communities
were devastated by open trade with China, by NAFTA and
by other policies, by the way, policies that Graham very
much supports, and it's put Maine in a terrible position.
Open trade with China devastated northern Maine, as did NAFTA,
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and Graham Platner wants you to understand. He thinks those
rural whites and northern Maine they're stupid and we should
work with China. So why would voters in northern Maine,
you know, support Trump because he opposed the things that
destroyed their communities. It was out of self interest. It's
not because they're stupid. Why did Graham say that? Because
he believes it, like he believes all cops are bastards,
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like he believes the sexual assault victims should take responsibility.
I'm not even going to go into his dating life.
I look, I trust me. I did a deep dive
in the sky and there is. He is not kind
to women. I'll just say it like that, or hasn't been.
I guess pre marriage. Maybe he's nice to his wife.
I don't know, but as someone who dated, not not
kind to women. He believes in communism. He believes in socialism.
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He is a man of intense privilege, someone who's able
to go to the finest boarding schools as a child,
go into the military because he was inspired by Ernest Hemingway.
I mean, who even says that out loud. He voted
he was voted most likely to start a revolution. And
you know, listen, you don't have to be working class
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to support working class ideologies or to be a populist.
Look at Uey Long, Ross Perrot, Donald Trump. None of them.
None of them were poor. But they didn't fake it.
They didn't lie and say they were. They were honest
with who they are. He wants the public to act
like the movie Men in Black when they take out
that little pen and a light goes off and everyone's
memory is just wipe clean. He doesn't want you to
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know what he has said forty five seconds ago. He
wants you to have treated him like a completely blank
slate and only wants you to know the very narrow
vision of who he is, that he is that he
thinks is acceptable. No, the true darkness in this man
isn't just the fact that he's not working class. It's
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that he detests w class people. And if you ask him, right,
if you ask him, why would you say these things
that he keeps saying, just look at my growth? Look
at my growth. Listen, I one hundred percent believe people
can grow. A fifteen year old, as I said, should
not be responsible their whole life, or they write in
social media. This was not a fifteen year old. This
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was a thirty five year old. This is not somebody
who grew. This is somebody saying the truth because he
was saying the truth of his opinions when he was thirteen,
when he was eighteen, when he was thirty five. All
of a sudden, after thirty years of being a communist,
of being a radical, of being a protester, of being
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a Champagne socialist, he wants you to understand he is
not any of those things. He's just a working class
oyster farmer. This is a dangerous, dangerous person. He's doing
an impersonation of John Fetterman, who likes to flirt with
people who hate choose and things. They're response for all
the wars in the world. So if you live in Maine,
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and if you live near Maine, it is your responsibility
to get this message out. Graham Platner is a very
dangerous individual who is lying to voters about who he
actually is and what he believes. Ask Me Anything is next.
Now it's time for the Ask Me Anything segment. If
you want be part of the Ask Me Anything segment,
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email me Ryan at Numbers Gamepodcast dot com. That's Ryan
at Numbers Plural Numbers gamepodcast dot com. First question comes
from Tristan not sure why the GUP White House keeps
trying to push the Save Act. It's of not getting
sixty votes and voter ID is not going to be
anyone's top issue this November. I think it'd be easier
to fix the voter integrity issue state by state, and
we could very well get tripectors in Arizona, Wisconsin, and
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Michigan this fall. One Blue states aren't going to go
with it. And remember there are a lot of well
there used to be more, but there are some swing
seats and blue states that you would need to win
in order to keep the House, like in New Jersey
and New York, and then there's a few in California
that honestly, you could still win even with the Jerry
Mander map. And secondly, a lot of people feel like
they don't have to November, that November without butt or
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idea is going to be a disaster, so they want
to get it done early. And it's something that Trump
has this big fight for it, and I've been very
critical of him, but Ken Paxson's campaign putting out that
message that he will drop out if they passed the
Save Act was an act of brilliance. It is pushed
back the corn and endorsement from Trump. It's not coming
out as of right now. It could be coming out later,
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but it hasn't come out yet, and I think it
was an act of genius on part of his campaign.
So Smart put the ball back in the corner of
John thone, and he's gotta pass something or get something
along because to avoid this very expensive primary. So so smart, Okay.
Next up comes from Dave, big fan of your show.
Are you able to explain why Ohio is now solidly
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read I am a millennial. Growing up, I always remember
Ohio being considered and the consummate swing state. But that
doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Thanks Stave. Okay, Dave,
thank you, Thank you for listening. As a millennial, I
remember those days. Part of the reason is because Ohio, well,
because the party has changed, is the moral of the story.
Because working class whites have become Republicans in greater numbers
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and more college educated urban people voters have become more democratic,
Ohio has been benefited from them more than basically anybody else.
If you go back to two thousand and eight. In
twenty twelve, northern Ohio and the Mahoning Valley were solidly blue,
I mean deep, deep democratic parts of the state, and
the rural counties in Ohio actually only voted for Republicans
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by like you know, they gave them like between fifty
and maybe sixty percent of the vote. Most rural counties
did not get more than sixty percent of the vote
in Ohio in two thousand and eight, which is shocking
now by today's perspective. Fast forward to twenty twenty four,
Mooning Valley is Republican. All those areas in northern Ohio
are basically outside of Cleveland Republican. A Canton I think
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is maybe Democratic too, but there's not much that is
still democratic. Most is Republican. And the rural counties, instead
of giving fifty to sixty are giving to seventy to
eighty five. So you have a twenty point shift among
the rurals, and you have the entire northern area that
used to be Democratic strongholds going maybe fifty five fifty
four Republicans, and the Democratic Party has basically collapsed. We'll
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see if anything swings back this year with the upcoming election,
given that they have a good Democrats of a good
slate of candidates, but it's kind of hard to see
that that much movement. Last question is are Shannon? They write?
I don't know if R. Shan's a woman or a man,
but are Shannon? You write to me and I appreciate
you for listening. Are there any or have there been
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any politicians who want to increase the voting age? I
think personally should be twenty one, but probably twenty five
eighteen is far too young. Younger people overall are dumb
and want free things. Also, by the way, old people
want free things too. I also sign out tangent. It's
very scared. These young people are the future leaders. We
are raising the dumb as kids ever. I kind of
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think everyone thinks that their generation is the dumbest generation ever.
I remember when millennials were told that they were the
laziest people. And almost every mile and I know is
working like forty five jobs trying to hold it together.
So I don't know, I don't know the whole I
will say this, there is a big things between Gen
Z and millennials in the sense of and this is
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a big part of it. The smartphones and the personalized
entertainment has definitely created a hard cultural barrier between Gen
zs and Gen Alpha and millennials and older. Because I
grew up and I know I was the only one
I didn't have a TV in my room. Ma had
to one TV in the house, and I know some
people at TV's in the room, but most people I
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know didn't. Most kids I know didn't, And if you
wanted to watch something, you had to kind of watch
what your family watched. And there was a lot of
jokes being made on television shows that were intergenerational like
that old people will get any people will get and
you kind of had a better understanding of what of
what they were thinking about, what they were talking about,
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and more I guess more conversation, and not conversations, but
more cultural cornerstones of things that happened in your past.
So it was more understanding. Zoomers and alphas. They don't
have everything's personalized to them. They don't have to know
or learn about anything, so there is that. I don't
want to call them dumb, though I don't think they're dumb.
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Sometimes they're lessons smart. But it is what it is.
As far as the question goes with the pot with
voting age, yes, the vec around was swamming if you
wanted to raise the voting age two twenty five when
he was joining for president. Obviously he never became president,
but like the previous question, he might be governor of Ohio.
Kind of hoping that doesn't happen, but it might. So anyway,
that's the episode. Thank you guys for listening. I hope
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