Is Virginia becoming the next political battleground to watch in 2026 and beyond?
On this episode, Ryan sits down with Amber Duke, Editor-in-Chief of The Daily Caller, to break down the growing political turmoil in Virginia. From Governor Spanberger’s slipping poll numbers to the controversial redistricting push that could reshape congressional power, this conversation dives deep into the issues driving voter frustration across the state.
They explore:
Why Spanberger’s approval ratings are hitting historic lows
The backlash over immigration enforcement and crime policies in Northern Virginia
How proposed tax hikes and climate regulations are impacting residents
The high-stakes redistricting battle and claims of “rigged” vs. “fair” maps
What this all means for the 2026 elections and the future of Democratic power
Plus, insights into shifting voter behavior, early voting trends, and whether Virginia could signal a broader national political realignment.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back to a numbers game with Ryan Grodski. Thank
you guys for being here. Okay, I have a very
smart audience. Last week I got an email from a
listener who said, Hey, is anyone feeling sorry that they
voted for Spamberger considering how left wing she's been and
she ran as a moderate. Well, at the time, I
didn't have any data to go through, but now I do,
and I want to go over that. That's part of
the interview that I have with the show with my
(00:23):
friend Amber Duke, very smart, very smart person from the
Daily Caller. But first I want to go over to
very important things. There are times where it's harder to
get stories for the podcast together, and then there's times
where I have more information that I want to give
you than I possibly can in just one show or
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in you know, just three shows a week. We're at
that point. I mean, I could do it a full
three hour long episode right now, but I'm gonna break
it up obviously today and then Friday's episode. Friday's episode
is all about the new census birth data that came
out and the new immigration data, and it is rich
with information. So if you like this podcast, subscribe to
it hit like a bell or whatever to make sure
you've listened to that Friday episode. But this episode is
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great too. Okay. News story from the New York Times
with Jonathan Swan, very smart reporter, and Maggie Haberman. Who
else is a smart reporter? I want to shade Maggie,
but Swan's Swan. I've gotten to meet several times and
he's very, very bright. Okay. The New York Times talked
about Trump's decision for war with Iran without going through
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the entire article because there's not a word that should
be missed. But the crux of the position is that
February eleventh, there was a meeting between Bib at Nyahou
and President Trump and his inner cabinet. The press was
not aware of it. They brought Bib to the White
House without his not without the press's knowledge, and they
had a secret intoor a meeting where they presented a
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video about how to do regime change in Iran. There
was a four point plan offered by Bibi and it
said the first point was to kill the Iatola. The
second was to cripple Iran's capacity to project power and
threaten its neighbors, which is obviously it's a missile program.
The third was a popular uprising inside Iran, and the
fourth was regime change with a secul leader installed in
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the country. They even talked about the idea of the
Kurds invading from Iraq. What's fascinating about this article is
that they talk about the reaction from other people inside
the meetings. First, CIA director John Radcliffe told the president
that goals three and four were farcical. Rubio said it
was quote unquote bullshit. Vance, who was not at that
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first meeting. He was at a second meeting at the
Advance was said he was very skeptical. General Keane said, Sir, this,
in my experience the standard operating procedures for the Israelis.
They oversell and they oversell, and their plans are not
always well developed. They know they need us, and that's
why they're hard selling. And then Trump said the regime
change would be their problem. But even specify who there was,
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it's either the Iranians or the Israelis. Either that the
either one would I guess take over for regime change.
The regime change part of the of the operation President
Trump thought, according to the report from President Trump said
thought it would be a quick roar because of how
quickly the bombing campaign was over the summer that took place,
and they said that Trump's believed the Iranians could not
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close the straight of horror moves. The loudest voice championing
the regime change was Pete Hegsgef. He was really the
big cheerleader Rubio, and when like the decision got closer
and closer to being made, Rubio was kind of ambivalent
and he wanted more time to negotiate with the Iranians
rather than having a full scale war. Susie Wilds kept
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her opinion really to herself. Another report was was very uh,
was was very worried what another war would do, and
was very skeptical but obviously supportive at war outright. Vance
was the most skeptical and worried what instability would happen
and said the Iranians had the upper hand and closing
the straight of horror moves. Just absolutely incredible reporting on
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the part of those two reporters and really shows how
much of this decision for the war was Trump. And
you know, inside the Republican Party there's so much conversations
about Rubio and that Rubio's this warhawk, and Ruby's this
big champion of the war. This kind of throw is
a bunch of colds of water. On that notion that
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Rubio was like gong ho about it. Rubio definitely projects
strength and projects confidence, and he's a great Secretary of State.
I'm not taking that away from him. But the narrative
that this was Rubio's, you know, neo conservatism really pushing forward,
not so much. It's really just Trump and Hegsgeth and
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Benjamin and Yahoo at the end of the day, pushing
for this war and believing it would be over so quickly.
Fascinating reporting. I want to get more into it when
they have a book coming out, Haberman and swanj on
the Swan So I want to talk about when the
book comes out and get a chance to read it. Okay,
other thing I need to talk to you about is
there is a new terrible bipartisan bill making its way
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through Congress, and it is the backing of forty members
of Congress. Twenty Republicans and twenty Democrats have put forward
a new bipartisan immigration bill called the Dignity Act, which
they said, they swear they say it, they swear it's
not an amnesty. It is not an amnesty. It's just
a legal pathway to long term undocumented immigrants. Congress and
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Mike Lawler from New York Republican. He said, this is
not an amnesty. This is accountability, This is fairness, This
is dignity, ladies and gentlemen. That is what you call
a lie because it is in fact an amnesty. Amnesty
means you reward lawbreakers ie illegal aliens, for breaking the
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law initially and then managing to go undetected, continuing to
break the law that same law year in and year
out for sometimes decades, and now you want to reward
the lawbreakers. I have Mike lawlerself on himber I should
call them and just have them on this podcast. But
what I would like to know is, first and foremost,
what other law class of law breakers do you want
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to give the okay too and say it's all right,
everything that we did initially is okay. You're no longer
going to go to prison. Is it junk drivers? Is
it people who scam elderly? What other class of law
breakers aside from people who break into this country illegally
are you willing to treat with such fairness and kindness
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and more importantly, and this is what goes kind of
unthought about in conservative media. Whenever Congress talks about giving
an amnesty of any kind to illegal immigrants, it doesn't
matter how many stipulations and loop holes and regulations there
are with it, whenever they even have a serious discussion
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about it. What happens overseas in countries all around the
world is human smug Take those clips and advertise them
to people and say, look, America is going to give
you citizenship. Give me eight, ten, twenty thousand, whatever it
is dollars, and let's make another multi billion dollar year business.
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This is what it was under President Biden. Am another
multi billion dollar business for human smugglers. The worst people
on the planet, make profit on poor people's willingness and
ambition to get to America. For whatever reason I want
to get to America. I'm not going to judge them
right now. But you not only reward law breakers living
in this country, but you enrich human smugglers. Every member
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of Congress doing this bill is might as well write
a personal check to a human smuggler living in Venezuela,
living throughout Latin America, living through Southeast Asia, and Africa.
They are making them wealthier. It is disgusting. And I
also want to and by the way, that has happened
in the past. Remember Reagan's amnesty, which was intended for
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one million people, gave it to three million people. Because
the minute the amnesty was seriously being discussed, they ran
to the border as fast as they possibly could because
they heard we're gonna get citizenship. Doesn't matter what they say,
We're going to get citizenship. And yeah, Reagan's amnesty had
stipulations and rules, but guess what. And this goes for
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the twenty members of the Republican Caucus who were pushing
this amnesty. All those rules are nonsense because the judiciary
has tons of left wing activist judges who will wave
away every single regulation you can think of as discriminatory
and that they don't need to follow it. I want
you to remember something. The Reagan Amnesty, which was for
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illegal aliens who had lived in the country continuously before
nineteen eighty two. It was signed in nineteen eighty seven,
had a one year window to apply between nineteen eighty
seven and nineteen eight eighty eight to apply for citizenship
because of the judiciary, because of liberal judges guess the
last year they actually had to apply for citizenship two
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thousand and two. That is how long judges found loopholes for.
One hundred thousand here, thirty thousand there. I mean people
who are not even in the country at the time
of the amnesty got it because of that Reagan law.
If this bill, this Dignity Act, happened today, we would
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have judges putting forward retroactive loopholes for people who are
not even in the country illegally right now until twenty forty.
I want you to think about how how horrendous the
lie that they are telling is right now that this
is not an amnesty. It is not only an amnesty,
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is an amnesty for people who are not in the
country that members of Congress who are supporting, people who
are old will be signing that will affect this country
long after they're dead, or who are supporting and they're
not signing it, they're supporting it like this is what
happens whenever Congress pushes forward an amnesty instead of saying,
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let's enforce the laws on the books as they are. So,
what does the Digni Act Dignity Act to do? This
is an I quote I'm reading from the Dignia Act.
It says the Secretary or Attorney General shall adjust the
status of any alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence on
a conditional basis, or without the conditional basis, as provided
in Section twenty one oh four. An alien who is
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inadmissible or deportable from the United States is the subject
to a grant of deferred enforced departure has temporary protected status.
It goes on to say, nothing in this division, or
in any other law, may be contrud to apply a
numerical limitation on the number of aliens who may be
granted permanent resident status. So not only are they protected
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from deportation granted an amnesty for deportation, they're given adjusted status,
which they will then adjust to green cards with the
will adjustice citizenship. It may take a while, but they
one hundred percent get to citizenship. But there's no numerical number.
There's no cap. It could be five million, it could
be ten million, it could be fifty million, it could
be any amount of there's no cap. They're not talking
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about just the twelve million that the estimate will be
or fifteen million aestimeate will be here there is no
cap and they say it's for anyone who was in
the country before twenty twenty one, So it doesn't include
the Biden way. That's the Republican's big giveaway for the Democrats.
We're not going to include the Biden people. One hundred percent.
They're going to get it because how hard is it
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to defraud the government when they're having to issue Think
about Think about the immense work people in the government do,
especially USCIS, which has which is not a huge office
in the government, and they have to administer every visa applicant,
every permanent resident applicant, millions and millions of applications. Flood
them with fifteen million more people. Give them a year
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to fill out fifteen million more people. And see how
many have fraudment documentation that they just made up that
they were in the country in twenty twenty when they weren't,
they got here in twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four, whenever,
And see how many of them will get through. It
will be absolute, widespread frauds. Somalian daycares will be more
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honest in Minnesota than the amount of fraud that will
go on from this application process. Not only it does
that this is one of those things that sound good
and people who have not thought constructively about the issue say, oh,
that sounds wonderful, but it's actually horrendous. The bill also
streamlines the green card application process for high skilled workers
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and international college students so they get faster chance to
become Green card holders and then citizens. Basically stapling a
green card to the back of every diploma. Why is
that a bad thing? Now? You think, oh, wait, it's
great because all these smart people here now, and new
scientists and new engineers, and you know, let's take away
the entire issue that we have with the AI revolution
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that we're having in that college is the kid to
people are not getting jobs as fast as they used to,
and now they're in more competition with international students. Let's
take away the you know, economics and modern news. Let's
take that out of it. What it does, what stapling
green cards the back of diplomas does is it turns
every college in the country into a green card mill.
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So all the failing colleges and colleges fail, you know,
all the time. Bernie Sanders's wife ran a college. She
reached to run at college and she ran into the ground.
She managed to make it go bankrupt socials, right, But
that happens all the time. Every one of these colleges,
these d rate c rate you know, community college or
not even community college, but small colleges, liberal arts colleges
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that aren't finding enough Americans to go to them. What
they can do is go to international students say give
me a hundred because you know what, not only you're
gonna get a hundred grand, but you're gonna get citizenship
in the end. Anyway, you're giving me one hundred grand.
And what you're gonna needs to be a green card
holder to the United States and a citizen within five
to seven years. And then you could sponsor your whole
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family from timbucktoo and they can all come here just
as well. That is what stapling green carts to the
back of the diplomas does. It incentivizes more immigration fraud
and college is huge win fall. They could charge so
much money because they get citizenship. It is a moneymail
for colleges. The same people promoting cultural Marxism to young
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people saying America's garbage, America's crap. Guess what, They're gonna
make tons of money from this. So youmus smugglers win,
bad colleges win, failing colleges win, and there's more of
high skilled workers in the middle of an AI crunch
that will put more college educated Americans out of work. Okay, Well,
other other features of the bill I want to go
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over very quickly. Preventing illegal aliens from this is what
this states. This is the bullet points that they gave
out when they were doing press releases. It says they're
going to prevent hiring illegal aliens to protect American jobs.
That is already a law, and apparently these twenty Republicans
really don't like enforcing the laws on the book, so
this won't Actually, the current law is not enforced about
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protecting American jobs from illegal aliens. It's force if you
go through lawsuits, but it's already on the book, so
that does absolutely nothing. It's just you know, sugarcoating this
crap sandwich that they're offering people. And I know I'm
swearing a little bit more than I usually do, because
I know never swear on this podcast, but I'm very
irritated about this. It grants permanent residency for Dreamers. Of course,
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you know they haven't gotten enough anyone illegally in the
country before twenty twenty one qualifies, and once again a
liberal judge comes in. It's going to be anyone from
the Biden years too. And then visa reform, And if
you think that means ending visa abuse, you are wrong.
It means it makes it easier for foreigners to get
visas without returning to their home country to apply. Sponsors
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of the bill claim that high skilled workers are in need,
and once again do not have any clue what's going
on with kids coming out of college right now and
how hard it is in most sectors of the economy
for them to find a work find a job at
this exact moment. Here are the twenty Republicans sponsoring this bill,
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and if you live in their district, I want you
to do me a favor. I never asked. Besides liking subscribing,
I never asked for my listeners. Do me a favor,
Do me a favor, and call these Republicans and tell
them you if you live in their district. Don't call
them if you don't live in the district, but if
you live in the district, call them and say you
will not vote for them in the general election. Even
if that means a Democrat wins. The number for the
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Congressional switchboard is two two two two four three one
two one. They your names are David Valdeo, Republican from
California's twenty second district. Young Kim California's fortieth district. Gabe Evans,
Colorado's eighth Isshi district. Maria Elvira Salazar, Florida's twenty seventh district.
She's the main sponsor of the bill and overall a
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terrible member of Congress. Mario Diaz Barlette, Florida's twenty sixth district.
Neil Dunn, Florida's second district, Zachary Nunn, Iowa's third district.
Marlon Stutsman, Indiana's third district, also a terrible member of Congress.
James Bard Indiana's fourth district. Don Bacon he is retiring,
so doesn't matter calling him, but he's Nebraska's second district.
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Mike Lawler, New York seventeen. Nick Lolota in New York's
first district, Mike Kelly Pennsylvania's sixteenth district. Brian Fitzpatrick, Pennsylvania's
first district. Lloyd Smucker, Pennsylvania's eleventh district, Monica de la Cruz,
Texas's fifteenth district, Jennifer Kiggins Virginia's second district, and Dan
Newhouse is also retiring Washington State's fourth district. Every one
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of these congressmen is in a district that Trump won
campaigning on mass deportation. Except for Fitzpatrick, Lawler, and Bacon,
every other one of them had Republicans go to the
polls to vote for Trump's agenda of mass deportation. This
is a betrayal. I'm going to have to start a
super pac like I did with school board elections on
immigration to ouse people like this. I have no other
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choice because no one's doing anything and they are stabbing
Republicans in the back over and over. Some of these
districts are so Republican. Lloyd Smucker, Nick Loloda, Marlin Stutsman,
Zachary Nunn, Neil Dunn. What are you people doing? Have
you talked to a Republican this year? It is ridiculous. Okay,
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last thing. We're gonna go on a main topic right now,
and that is the what is happening in Virginia. Republican
people in Virginia are starting to regret their vote for
the governor Spamberger or Virginia Governor Spamburger, It's not surprising.
A new Washington Post Scholars poll found that Spamburger's poll
numbers have fallen to forty seven percent, with forty six
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percent disapproving. She won by the way by double digits.
She's underwater by double digits with Virginia exerbs North Virginia
outside of loud in Central and western Virginia, and a
statistical tie in Richmond and Loudon not great. She's underwater
with men, Republicans, voters over fifty, and white voters. She's
only tied with independents, young voters, latinos Asians, and voters
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with a college degree, and white voters with a college degree.
These are all groups she won by huge margins just
six months ago. She's importantly down by six points among
very likely voters. One in ten who support her say
they have an unfavorable opinion of her. That's not enough
for Republicans to win, but that is a start. A
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Pluralia voters thinks she is too liberal and her policies
will make life more expensive for people living in Virginia.
That is the truth. Her policies democratic policies are making
Virginia and turning into Maryland and all the other states
of people are fleeing from with me to discuss Virginia. Yeah,
and Spamburger is Amber Duke, the editor in cheap of
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the Daily Caller that is coming up next with me
on today's episode discuss everything happening in Virginia. Is my
friend Amber Duke. She is the editor in chief of
the Daily Caller. Amber, thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Thanks for having me, Ryan.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
So we are looking at Governor Spamberger's poll numbers in
the worst position any incumbent governor of Virginia has been in. Now,
one of my listeners, Virginia is a very unique state
in the sense the governor can run for reelection, but
not consecutively. They you have to take a break and
then run again. So no governor of Virginia's ever been
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re elected. So I guess that that kind of fears over.
But for a woman who won by such a large margin,
you're seeing her poll numbers at the worst place it's
been even compared to Republican governors for a blue state.
What have you experienced. I know you're a Virginia resident
and you've been in Virginia for a while. What are
you seeing as far as her message kind of falling
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apart and her political coalition falling apart.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, So I lived in Forbacks County and I've been
a Virginia resident for ten years now, actually this year.
And what this Washington Post poll that you're referring to
shows is that despite winning by double digits against the
Lieutenant Governor Winsome Sears, Spanberger has the worst approval reading
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among eight or nine of her predecessors. It's basically since
the Washington Post started doing the poll in the early
nineteen nineties. She has forty seven percent approval to forty
six percent disapproval. And the common refrain that I hear
from my fellow Virginia residents and just looking at the
conversation that's been happening in the news media is that
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people feel like there was a rug full moment. She
campaigned on being a moderate, focusing on affordability, and yet
as soon as she got into office in January, the
very first thing she did was she revoked the program
that required state police to cooperate with ICE on immigration enforcement.
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And we have heavy MS thirteen gang activity in northern Virginia.
There was actually a top five leader of the gang
that was arrested by the Trump administration in Woodbridge, just
south of where I live. Last year. There's also been
a series of illegal alien murders in Fairfax County that
have been let off the hook prior to them actually
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allegedly committing the murder by the county prosecutor, Steve Descano,
who is a Soros prosecutor and just in general a
really big problem with illegal immigration. So that's number one.
Then number two. Her party takes control of the House
of Delegates as well as the state Senate. They have
majorities in both chambers of the legislative body, and they
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immediately introduced packages of legislation that are completely left wing
from encounter to what Spamburger campaigned on. So we're talking
about tax increases across the board on a variety of
different items, whether it's entertainment, restaurants, small businesses, basically every
facet of your life, your taxes are going to go up.
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That's not affordability. And then they also institute a whole
bunch of green climate policies, things like you're not allowed
to use a gas powered leaf flower, and they also
try to revoke tough on crime policies from the young
Kid administration. They want to get rid of mandatory minimums,
three strikes laws, all of those things. So basically, any
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leftover policy that kept Virginia semi sane and safe from
the previous governors, even Terry mcculliff wasn't as bad. Frankly,
it is at danger of being overturned by the Democrats.
And one final thing is that as they're doing all
of this, including the soft on crime refusal to cooperate
on immigration enforcement, they also want to take away your guns.
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So if you're a legal gun owner in rigid and
you want the opportunity to protect yourself, that's also potentially
going away under the Democrat rule.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah. And the interesting thing about this poll, especially found
in the cross Steps, is high propensity voters. Voters who
voted in twenty twenty five, four and two were the
most had the biggest objection to not only Spamburger but
her redistricting effort to make it Virginia ten to one
Democrat congressional state. You know, I had a political Polster
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or a Polsterberg consultant on this show many many months ago,
and he said, off of the bats, Spamberger was plotting
a presidential run, that Spamberger really wanted to run for president,
that that was her goal. And this is if this
is about opposing Trump, she's doing a very good job.
But it's like a checklist of It's like a what
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is it word gabor or a mad mad list ad
lits of like credit policies. Nobody wakes up in the
morning and says, you know what I really am against.
It's gas powered leaf blowers, but it really is. And
the Speaker of the House, the Democratic Speaker of the
House in Virginia, is she's like eighty three or eighty
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four years old. She is as far left as they come,
and is really I think she's really driving the ship.
It looks like it doesn't really look like spam Burger
is as in charge as the most radical parts of
the Democrats and the state legislature.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
And that's led to a lot of speculation from people
that perhaps Spamburger is going to serve as the foil
to the Democratic legislature in veto a lot of the
crazy legislation that they're pushing through. The first test of
that theory will be the gun control legislation. They basically
sent a couple of bills to her desk that would
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have a huge impact on legal gun ownership. It would
basically ban any ar style rifle, including Air fifteen, which
are the most popular semi automatic rifles in the country.
They It would also put magazine capacity limits, a bunch
of restrictions on gun store owners. So basically, they want
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to ban guns without explicitly banning guns. They just want
to make it really difficult to sell and buy them.
And so I'm curious to see what Smamberger does with that.
If she sends it back to them, they might be
able to override the veto, But that could be an
indication that maybe she's trying to play like the moderate
oil to the progressive Democrats in the legislature. But based
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on the fact that she has reversed this ice policy,
that doesn't seem super likely to me. And I think
you know, one helpful way to frame what's happening in
Virginia is that if you are someone who works in
downtown DC, you basically have an option of living in
a Maryland suburb or a Northern Virginia suburb of the city.
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And I grew up in Maryland. There are red pockets
still in that state, but everything surrounding DC is incredibly blue.
So people who wanted to get away from the Maryland
craziness typically choose to live in Northern Virginia, And even
though it is a very democrat, heavily democrat area, it
wasn't quite as woke or progressive as the Maryland suburbs.
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That is quickly changing, and so for people who work
in DC, they're starting to run out of options. And
I've heard a lot of people talk about potentially going
to West Virginia and taking the train into the city
because they really just feel stuck where they can basically
not have a less than one hour commute to their
workplace and live in a place that is sane and
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common sense.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Well, it's actually even crazy in that, you know, I
have property in Pennsylvania. I've been to Pennsylvania a lot.
Lancaster now offers flights direct flights to BWI, and people
have moved from DC seat to Lancaster, Pennsylvania and they
fly in. It's a really cheap light. It's like twenty crazy,
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but it is. If you don't have to be there
every day, there's no sense of staying there, and you
could live in a much cheaper, much nicer part so
the urban sprawl of DC to everywhere else to get
away from the insanity that is, you know, Montgomery County
or Fairfax County, and the price is absolutely no joke.
(28:26):
I want to talk though about, you know, in right
now where President Trump's been very effectively cracking down on
immigration and there's been self deportations, and we're looking at
blue states seeing in exodus and in this sense of
and I talk this on the podcast a lot. In
twenty thirty, we have this redistricting effort going on California,
New York, Illinois will lose almost a dozen seats between
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the three of them. Oregon's going to lose seats. Virginia
is one of the few Blue states that is really
a larger Blue states that is not in the same
precarious situation that other Blue states are. It would seem
almost logical that they would not want to be in
the place where that they are in losing congressional seats.
(29:08):
But my question to you on the point of it
is is that when it comes to political power or
just quality of life issues, for a lot of Democrats,
not for all of them. Jerry pols is not like
this the governor of Connecticut's not like this, But for
anyone with the presidential ambitions, you have to choose far
left power. And what does that say about the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, it's a good question, and I think tying it
back to this jerrymandering effort is really important because Spanberger
has been full throatedly endorsing what the Democrats are trying
to do on redistricting in Virginia with the aid of
former President Barack Obama. They've dropped millions of dollars to
run ads with his face.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
On them in Virginia.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And yet I've got to say, even in Fairfax County,
which is very blue, I see way more no signs
than Yes signs. To your point, going back to that
Washington Post pull about high propensity voters, this redistricting is
completely insane because not only does it switch the balance
from six to five Democrat to Republican favor to ten
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to one Democrat districts to Republican districts, but the way
that it's actually being marketed to voters and the way
that it appears on the ballot is so unbelievably unfair. Ironically,
because on the ballot this measure is described as temporary,
which most people would hear temporary and think, Okay, it's
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just for twenty twenty eight. Let's say it actually goes
until twenty thirty, when the new census is done, which
is how this ties back into your question. And I
think a lot of people don't believe actually that it's
going to stop there anyway, because if Democrats don't get
the result that they want out of the twenty thirty
census and Virginia does bleed voters from especially the Nova area,
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I think people feel like they're just going to go
ahead and extend this ten to one map, and I
think that's probably what their plan is, to keep control
of power. And then the other part of it that's
really important to note is that on the ballot it
describes this as fair maps, So voters don't get to
see a picture of the map, they don't get to
see what the new political balance is going to be.
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They just read on the ballot initiative a temporary redrawing
to have fair maps. And Republicans try to amend that
language during the legislative session to be more accurate about
what was actually happening here, and the Democrat majority strapped
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down that amendment so that they could say fair maps,
and Spamburger had nothing to say about it. So if
she does have presidential ambitions, I think this is pretty
clear that she is more obsessed with trying to go
with the Demmo majority in their grabbing of power than
she is is trying to govern as a sort of
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pragmatic moderate.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
You know, it's so interesting you said that because in
the poll in the Washington Post Pole, something like nine
percent of voters or eight percent of voters said that
the poll that the redrawing will be more fair for
Republicans than the current map is. And I and I
just was like, and like, something like eight percent or
nine percent of Republicans support. Now, that could be Barbara Comstock,
the former Republican congressman who's now full blown, you know,
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Trump drangement syndrome. But it's more likely a lot of
confused voters who just think that this would be you know,
the idea of fairness is something that's almost sank or
saying to a lot of Americans, and they innately believe
in it, and they've been lied to so thoroughly. I
wonder what the political ramification is going as given that
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high propensity voters are so opposed to this. Democrats only
have a one c majority in the state Senate, and
the state Senate elections are not this year. I think
they're at the following year. Are any Republicans trying to
seison this because also Glenn Youngkin has been completely mia
He's the most popular Republican in the state and he's
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nowhere to be found against this measure.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, so I have not heard about what Guncan is doing,
but I do know that former AG Jason Miris is
working with I believe it's called Virginians for Fair Elections,
which is launching a grassroots counter effort to this campaign
by the Democrats. The Virginia GOP is also involved in
working with me as his group, as is the Republican
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National Committee, but they're keeping it relatively quiet, right. They
want to route this through third party groups that are
local to Virginia because what would be a deathnell for
the Republican effort to defeat this would be making it
more about Trump. They don't want the perception that the
President is railing against the Democrats quote unquote fair maps,
because that gives more cover to the Obama Spaanburger backed
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persuasion effort and to hammer that point that you brought
up about voters being confused the competing signs that are
being shared around Virginia and showing up in people's yards.
The ones that are for the jerrymandering say vote yes
for fair maps, and the ones that are against it
say vote no to rigged maps. So that's like the
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level of distillation and messaging that we've gotten to, and
it's really going to come down to the ground game. Now.
The high propensity poll is really important here because what
do we know about special elections and midterms. It's the
high propensity people who show up. And it's one of
the things that's plagued the Trump Republican Party is that
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the load of midprop voters who show up for him
in presidentials don't show up in special elections the midterms. Well,
if high propensity voters are the ones who are more
likely to oppose this, and they're the ones who are
most likely going to vote on this, Democrats are starting
to get worried. And I will tell you that my
conservative and Republican friends who are working on this on
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an activist level and on a grassroots level have started
to notice that the Democrats are pouring more money and
resources into this fight because they are starting to panic
a little bit. The early mail in ballots were not
breaking quite the way that they hoped. So if I
had to give you a prediction right now, you didn't
ask for one, I'll give you one.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Anyway. If I had to give.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
You a prediction, I would say it's more likely than
not that the redistricting passes, but it's going to be
a lot closer than people anticipate.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, I've been breaking down the data as it comes in,
preasing by precinct, and Obama has been extremely effective at
bringing out lower black Virginians Love Obama, do they? Yeah,
it's crazy, Well he's been. He's been immensely effective at that. Now,
the one thing that did that changes things a little
bit is, and this is very niche, but they thing
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called satellite voting, And basically they have a lot of
satellite sites where you can go vote in person throughout Virginia.
For whatever reason, a number of Northern Virginia counties that
are Democrat reduce their satellite voting sites, and turnout is
down substantially in those satellite voting sites. So who knows
what that is. So far early voting is higher in
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this election than even in the governor's election. It will
be very, very, you know, interesting what it says. And
if it fail, if it passes, they're still going to
go to the courts, which maybe is what they're always
hoping for. Maybe maybe that's what the form of age
is hoping for us to go to the courts and
went to the courts. But it does tell of a
real division within the state that overwhelmingly supported an entire Democrat.
(36:47):
It's late, just six months ago. Amber. Where can you
go to read more of what you guys write about
and in your social media and everything.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah? Absolutely, they can find me at Dailycollar dot com.
That's where all of our work is, through our reporters
and our commentators, and then my personal X account is
at Amber Marie Duke.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Amber is a mensh and super smart. You should definitely
follow her. Thank you for this podcast. I really appreciate it.
Thanks Ryan. Now it's time for the Ask Me Anything segment.
If you want to be part of the Ask Me
Anything segment, email me Ryan at Numbers Game Podcast. That's
Ryan at Numbers Numbers Plural Numbers Gamepodcast. Dot com. First
of all, I have a listener to Amerie. You wrote
(37:29):
me the most heartwarming and touching and kindest email I
could have possibly imagined. And it really really really like
blew me away. And I want to thank you from
Bob my heart. I don't get compliments every day working
and so this was really nice that you sent that
to me, So thank you. First. Second, first question though
of the show comes from Bradley. He says, I love
(37:50):
your show. Can you explain why Congress doesn't pass simple bills?
Why does every bill have like thirty different things in it?
For example, the Save Act? A lot of Democrats they
support voter ID but just not the extreme Save Act,
which includes passports for verification and requires clean up of
voter roles. Why not start they simple driver's licenses and
have a vote. See if it passes, then another portion
(38:11):
of the bill can move on. Why do not put
a vote for not counting illegals in the census? I
feel like it's a ninety ten issue. People do not
realize the illegals are counted. Great question. Okay, so, first
of all, Republicans did do that with the Save Act.
They did pass a simple driver's license to show voter
ID law without all of the rest of the Stave
Act in it, and it failed. It failed fifty three
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forty seven. Every Democrat voted down, including Fetterman, who always
likes to pretendings a Republican when times suits him. But
they all voted for it down. So they did that.
Their opposition is not about changing the last name or
the passport or all the other stuff that is for
the cameras. They don't want voter ID because they don't
(38:54):
want it. They want people who are either illegally in
the country or don't register on time, or voting for
somebody else, all the other things going to vote. When
you live in New York State, which I have voted
in for my entire life, if you show them your
picture I d they will say, please, don't show me that.
(39:15):
All you have to do is just sign the correct way. Now,
some people who are more judicious in what they do
the vote, the poll watchers, they will say, this doesn't
match the signature. A lot of them don't. And you
know everyone people always say that elections are stolen because
of illegals, or because of the mail in voter or whatever.
(39:37):
Typically and historically, how elections have been stolen in the past.
There have been a few local elections who have been stolen,
like there's one in Connecticut where was the mail in voters. Typically,
what it is is that polling sites that are in
apartment complexes or in the projects, where there's a lot
of black voters and not extremely judicious voter ID regulation,
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they will have them all go vote at the end
of the day and they'll just start pulling people. And
when they don't pull people, they will have other people
vote for them. I mean, this is what I've heard
from old school political consultants, many of which are dead now.
But that's how they stole elections back in the seventies
and eighties. Okay, next question, Christmas Cincinnati. Ryan, thank you
for being consistent voice railing against data centers. Check out
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this horrible story he sent me a story that was insane.
There is a data center going up at a it's
a mobile home camp in in the place of mobile
camp in Kentucky. These are all Republican voters, lots of elderly,
lots of veterans, and they have three months to find
a new home. And it was heartbreaking. It was from
(40:44):
lex eighteen dot com. It's called the Metland Village residents.
If you want to listen read it. It is terrible.
The democratic governor is not doing anything for these people.
My guess is that they did not support him. They
probably are all Trump voters or mostly Trump voters. I
looked at the where the map is. It's a very
red area. So heartbreaking, really genuinely heartbreaking what these data
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centers are doing. And it's more bad press that they
should be working to get positive press, given how many
people are annoyed by the AI stuff. Okay, last question
for this podcast. It's from Trevor. Trevor says, Hey, Ryan,
a huge fan of the show. You become my favorite
podcast as a late Trevor, thank you so much. Other
podcasts are black pilling in their audiences with personal beef,
(41:25):
conspiracies and Israel. I try. I talked about Israel today,
so Trevor, I hope I didn't fail you. The reporting
was just so good. I'm not out giving you conspiracies.
I'm just I'm telling you information as it comes to
me that I think is really important. So stay on
the message. My question is, and Culter has been saying
for years that if amnesty ever goes through the entire
country will become a one party state like California, and
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there's nothing that the right can do to ever change
it again with the Democratic Party becoming so radical, My
big fears in twenty twenty eight and beyond it is
if they win back to the House, in the Senate,
in the White House, they will nuke the filibuster, pass amnesty,
open the orders back up to more Third World migrants,
pack the Supreme Court and mid DC, Puerto Rico and
Guama States band voter ID. While this scenario would obviously
(42:08):
be extremely bad, do you agree with and that it
would be completely over for us? Or do you think
that there is still a path forward? If yes, what
that path? What does that path look like? And if no,
should we consider a national divorce. I'm in my twenties
and trying to stay optimistic about the future. Thank you
for the therapy session. You're welcome, Trevor for the therapy session.
And once again, I hope my news about Israel didn't
(42:31):
throw me in the conspiracy wing. Do I think that
it's over if an amnesty goes through? It is basically
I mean, I mean it takes a while to happen,
so it won't happen immediately, and they have to process
it and then apply for citizenship. It'll take a couple
of years. But yeah, I mean, there's never been an
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election in our history where a majority of Latinos voted
for Republican. There's never been a modern election where a
majority black voters. There's some data that says a majority
of recent immigrants voted for Trump in the twenty twenty
four election, and maybe that's true. Is it over over?
You know? I don't know. Like there have been election cycles,
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and there have been news cycles that like Mille wasn't
supposed to win in Argentina, that's a socialist country. And
there have been other victories that shouldn't have happened that
did happen. So is it impossible for other victory to happened? No,
nothing is impossible, right, I want to put that in there,
But it will be very, very very difficult to stack.
The cars are stacked so heavily against Republicans. If Reagan
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or or Reagan nineteen eighty, or if Bush in two
thousand had to run with the demographics of America today
and so the Democrats they ran in, they would not
have won. It's a much. I mean, demographics have changed
this country profoundly, and it made it much harder for Republicans.
That's why, honestly, Trump's probably a more skilled politician than
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all of those other people, because winning in this cycle
is much more difficult. What is should we consider a
national divorce? No, national divorce is so stupid. We're not
going to get anything from a national divorce. They always
talk about this. At the end of the day, no
one really wants to live in the nation of California
or Texas. They want to live in America, the best bet.
(44:22):
And I mean this sounds like hokey, and this sounds
like it's you know, I'm taking points from like Glenn
Beck or whatever, but this is the truth. You want
a federal government with extremely limited powers. You want an
ability to have state governments that have the most amount
of powers. This is why the founders set up the
country like this at the end at you know, in
the beginning of presidency, at the beginning of the country,
presidents did not have that kind of robust influence the
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way they do now. Certainly Congress did, and all the
way through the nineteenth century. You want more limitations on it,
and the good thing that Trump did is that the
judiciary is very conservative right now, so a lot of
things could possibly get strict down and we'll have to
kind of wait and see. I mean, the amnesty thing
is very very dangerous. The other good thing that Trump
(45:09):
is doing right now is, yeah, these mass deportations is
not deporting twenty million people like people think it would,
but self deportations are also happening. You see it in
the birth data, you see in the housing data, you
see it in the economic data. It's so evident that
there are less foreigners living in this country today than
there were. That has to continue for four years. That's
why I tell you guys all the time, don't take
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the pedal. Don't don't take your foot off the pedal
for whatever happens. I don't care how many negative stories
there are about Ice. We have to dwindle the illegal
alien population to as close to nothing as possible, because
then an amnesty doesn't do anything. And that's really the goal.
But yeah, the Democrats are and you see in the
Virginia election that's happening right now. Virginia Democrats are are
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about absolute power at all times. They are everything that
they use. Republicans of I just you need to know
that they are everything that you that they accuse Republicans of.
So twenty twenty six really matters. Twenty twenty eight is
a huge deal. We have to get to the twenty
thirties because in the twenty thirties, if we can keep
the Republican presidency. In twenty twenty eight, even if we
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lose the Senate, even if we lose the House, or
we need one or the other, we need the House
in the Senate, we need some kind of combination. If
we make it through the twenty thirties, the map changes
California and New York, Illinois, Oregon. They lose so many
seats that Democrats have to run inside baseball like you
(46:37):
guys know, I don't like sports. Whatever that term is,
an inside flush, an inside home run, whatever the hell
it's called. They have to run a perfect game to
win the presidency because they need Georgia and Arizona, they
need a North Carolina. The amount of Blue states losing
electoral power is so profound that it really hurts them
throughout the entire decade, and there's probably no going back
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after that anyway. Positive thing we got to get through
the next five years. We're gonna make it. I promise you, Trevor.
It's all okay, you know, live a good life, have
some good meals. Eating is the best therapy, I always say.
But live a good life, have some good meals, have
some Italian food. You'll get through. We'll all get through it,
and I'll be okay. I promise you. All right, that's
this episode. Please like and subscribe if you like this
(47:19):
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you guys later
Welcome back to a numbers game with Ryan Grodski. Thank
you guys for being here. Okay, I have a very
smart audience. Last week I got an email from a
listener who said, Hey, is anyone feeling sorry that they
voted for Spamberger considering how left wing she's been and
she ran as a moderate. Well, at the time, I
didn't have any data to go through, but now I do,
and I want to go over that. That's part of
the interview that I have with the show with my
(00:23):
friend Amber Duke, very smart, very smart person from the
Daily Caller. But first I want to go over to
very important things. There are times where it's harder to
get stories for the podcast together, and then there's times
where I have more information that I want to give
you than I possibly can in just one show or
(00:43):
in you know, just three shows a week. We're at
that point. I mean, I could do it a full
three hour long episode right now, but I'm gonna break
it up obviously today and then Friday's episode. Friday's episode
is all about the new census birth data that came
out and the new immigration data, and it is rich
with information. So if you like this podcast, subscribe to
it hit like a bell or whatever to make sure
you've listened to that Friday episode. But this episode is
(01:05):
great too. Okay. News story from the New York Times
with Jonathan Swan, very smart reporter, and Maggie Haberman. Who
else is a smart reporter? I want to shade Maggie,
but Swan's Swan. I've gotten to meet several times and
he's very, very bright. Okay. The New York Times talked
about Trump's decision for war with Iran without going through
(01:27):
the entire article because there's not a word that should
be missed. But the crux of the position is that
February eleventh, there was a meeting between Bib at Nyahou
and President Trump and his inner cabinet. The press was
not aware of it. They brought Bib to the White
House without his not without the press's knowledge, and they
had a secret intoor a meeting where they presented a
(01:48):
video about how to do regime change in Iran. There
was a four point plan offered by Bibi and it
said the first point was to kill the Iatola. The
second was to cripple Iran's capacity to project power and
threaten its neighbors, which is obviously it's a missile program.
The third was a popular uprising inside Iran, and the
fourth was regime change with a secul leader installed in
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the country. They even talked about the idea of the
Kurds invading from Iraq. What's fascinating about this article is
that they talk about the reaction from other people inside
the meetings. First, CIA director John Radcliffe told the president
that goals three and four were farcical. Rubio said it
was quote unquote bullshit. Vance, who was not at that
(02:33):
first meeting. He was at a second meeting at the
Advance was said he was very skeptical. General Keane said, Sir, this,
in my experience the standard operating procedures for the Israelis.
They oversell and they oversell, and their plans are not
always well developed. They know they need us, and that's
why they're hard selling. And then Trump said the regime
change would be their problem. But even specify who there was,
(02:56):
it's either the Iranians or the Israelis. Either that the
either one would I guess take over for regime change.
The regime change part of the of the operation President
Trump thought, according to the report from President Trump said
thought it would be a quick roar because of how
quickly the bombing campaign was over the summer that took place,
and they said that Trump's believed the Iranians could not
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close the straight of horror moves. The loudest voice championing
the regime change was Pete Hegsgef. He was really the
big cheerleader Rubio, and when like the decision got closer
and closer to being made, Rubio was kind of ambivalent
and he wanted more time to negotiate with the Iranians
rather than having a full scale war. Susie Wilds kept
(03:38):
her opinion really to herself. Another report was was very uh,
was was very worried what another war would do, and
was very skeptical but obviously supportive at war outright. Vance
was the most skeptical and worried what instability would happen
and said the Iranians had the upper hand and closing
the straight of horror moves. Just absolutely incredible reporting on
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the part of those two reporters and really shows how
much of this decision for the war was Trump. And
you know, inside the Republican Party there's so much conversations
about Rubio and that Rubio's this warhawk, and Ruby's this
big champion of the war. This kind of throw is
a bunch of colds of water. On that notion that
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Rubio was like gong ho about it. Rubio definitely projects
strength and projects confidence, and he's a great Secretary of State.
I'm not taking that away from him. But the narrative
that this was Rubio's, you know, neo conservatism really pushing forward,
not so much. It's really just Trump and Hegsgeth and
(04:42):
Benjamin and Yahoo at the end of the day, pushing
for this war and believing it would be over so quickly.
Fascinating reporting. I want to get more into it when
they have a book coming out, Haberman and swanj on
the Swan So I want to talk about when the
book comes out and get a chance to read it. Okay,
other thing I need to talk to you about is
there is a new terrible bipartisan bill making its way
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through Congress, and it is the backing of forty members
of Congress. Twenty Republicans and twenty Democrats have put forward
a new bipartisan immigration bill called the Dignity Act, which
they said, they swear they say it, they swear it's
not an amnesty. It is not an amnesty. It's just
a legal pathway to long term undocumented immigrants. Congress and
(05:27):
Mike Lawler from New York Republican. He said, this is
not an amnesty. This is accountability, This is fairness, This
is dignity, ladies and gentlemen. That is what you call
a lie because it is in fact an amnesty. Amnesty
means you reward lawbreakers ie illegal aliens, for breaking the
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law initially and then managing to go undetected, continuing to
break the law that same law year in and year
out for sometimes decades, and now you want to reward
the lawbreakers. I have Mike lawlerself on himber I should
call them and just have them on this podcast. But
what I would like to know is, first and foremost,
what other law class of law breakers do you want
(06:10):
to give the okay too and say it's all right,
everything that we did initially is okay. You're no longer
going to go to prison. Is it junk drivers? Is
it people who scam elderly? What other class of law
breakers aside from people who break into this country illegally
are you willing to treat with such fairness and kindness
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and more importantly, and this is what goes kind of
unthought about in conservative media. Whenever Congress talks about giving
an amnesty of any kind to illegal immigrants, it doesn't
matter how many stipulations and loop holes and regulations there
are with it, whenever they even have a serious discussion
(06:54):
about it. What happens overseas in countries all around the
world is human smug Take those clips and advertise them
to people and say, look, America is going to give
you citizenship. Give me eight, ten, twenty thousand, whatever it
is dollars, and let's make another multi billion dollar year business.
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This is what it was under President Biden. Am another
multi billion dollar business for human smugglers. The worst people
on the planet, make profit on poor people's willingness and
ambition to get to America. For whatever reason I want
to get to America. I'm not going to judge them
right now. But you not only reward law breakers living
in this country, but you enrich human smugglers. Every member
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of Congress doing this bill is might as well write
a personal check to a human smuggler living in Venezuela,
living throughout Latin America, living through Southeast Asia, and Africa.
They are making them wealthier. It is disgusting. And I
also want to and by the way, that has happened
in the past. Remember Reagan's amnesty, which was intended for
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one million people, gave it to three million people. Because
the minute the amnesty was seriously being discussed, they ran
to the border as fast as they possibly could because
they heard we're gonna get citizenship. Doesn't matter what they say,
We're going to get citizenship. And yeah, Reagan's amnesty had
stipulations and rules, but guess what. And this goes for
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the twenty members of the Republican Caucus who were pushing
this amnesty. All those rules are nonsense because the judiciary
has tons of left wing activist judges who will wave
away every single regulation you can think of as discriminatory
and that they don't need to follow it. I want
you to remember something. The Reagan Amnesty, which was for
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illegal aliens who had lived in the country continuously before
nineteen eighty two. It was signed in nineteen eighty seven,
had a one year window to apply between nineteen eighty
seven and nineteen eight eighty eight to apply for citizenship
because of the judiciary, because of liberal judges guess the
last year they actually had to apply for citizenship two
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thousand and two. That is how long judges found loopholes for.
One hundred thousand here, thirty thousand there. I mean people
who are not even in the country at the time
of the amnesty got it because of that Reagan law.
If this bill, this Dignity Act, happened today, we would
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have judges putting forward retroactive loopholes for people who are
not even in the country illegally right now until twenty forty.
I want you to think about how how horrendous the
lie that they are telling is right now that this
is not an amnesty. It is not only an amnesty,
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is an amnesty for people who are not in the
country that members of Congress who are supporting, people who
are old will be signing that will affect this country
long after they're dead, or who are supporting and they're
not signing it, they're supporting it like this is what
happens whenever Congress pushes forward an amnesty instead of saying,
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let's enforce the laws on the books as they are. So,
what does the Digni Act Dignity Act to do? This
is an I quote I'm reading from the Dignia Act.
It says the Secretary or Attorney General shall adjust the
status of any alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence on
a conditional basis, or without the conditional basis, as provided
in Section twenty one oh four. An alien who is
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inadmissible or deportable from the United States is the subject
to a grant of deferred enforced departure has temporary protected status.
It goes on to say, nothing in this division, or
in any other law, may be contrud to apply a
numerical limitation on the number of aliens who may be
granted permanent resident status. So not only are they protected
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from deportation granted an amnesty for deportation, they're given adjusted status,
which they will then adjust to green cards with the
will adjustice citizenship. It may take a while, but they
one hundred percent get to citizenship. But there's no numerical number.
There's no cap. It could be five million, it could
be ten million, it could be fifty million, it could
be any amount of there's no cap. They're not talking
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about just the twelve million that the estimate will be
or fifteen million aestimeate will be here there is no
cap and they say it's for anyone who was in
the country before twenty twenty one, So it doesn't include
the Biden way. That's the Republican's big giveaway for the Democrats.
We're not going to include the Biden people. One hundred percent.
They're going to get it because how hard is it
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to defraud the government when they're having to issue Think
about Think about the immense work people in the government do,
especially USCIS, which has which is not a huge office
in the government, and they have to administer every visa applicant,
every permanent resident applicant, millions and millions of applications. Flood
them with fifteen million more people. Give them a year
(12:03):
to fill out fifteen million more people. And see how
many have fraudment documentation that they just made up that
they were in the country in twenty twenty when they weren't,
they got here in twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four, whenever,
And see how many of them will get through. It
will be absolute, widespread frauds. Somalian daycares will be more
(12:24):
honest in Minnesota than the amount of fraud that will
go on from this application process. Not only it does
that this is one of those things that sound good
and people who have not thought constructively about the issue say, oh,
that sounds wonderful, but it's actually horrendous. The bill also
streamlines the green card application process for high skilled workers
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and international college students so they get faster chance to
become Green card holders and then citizens. Basically stapling a
green card to the back of every diploma. Why is
that a bad thing? Now? You think, oh, wait, it's
great because all these smart people here now, and new
scientists and new engineers, and you know, let's take away
the entire issue that we have with the AI revolution
(13:08):
that we're having in that college is the kid to
people are not getting jobs as fast as they used to,
and now they're in more competition with international students. Let's
take away the you know, economics and modern news. Let's
take that out of it. What it does, what stapling
green cards the back of diplomas does is it turns
every college in the country into a green card mill.
(13:30):
So all the failing colleges and colleges fail, you know,
all the time. Bernie Sanders's wife ran a college. She
reached to run at college and she ran into the ground.
She managed to make it go bankrupt socials, right, But
that happens all the time. Every one of these colleges,
these d rate c rate you know, community college or
not even community college, but small colleges, liberal arts colleges
(13:53):
that aren't finding enough Americans to go to them. What
they can do is go to international students say give
me a hundred because you know what, not only you're
gonna get a hundred grand, but you're gonna get citizenship
in the end. Anyway, you're giving me one hundred grand.
And what you're gonna needs to be a green card
holder to the United States and a citizen within five
to seven years. And then you could sponsor your whole
(14:13):
family from timbucktoo and they can all come here just
as well. That is what stapling green carts to the
back of the diplomas does. It incentivizes more immigration fraud
and college is huge win fall. They could charge so
much money because they get citizenship. It is a moneymail
for colleges. The same people promoting cultural Marxism to young
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people saying America's garbage, America's crap. Guess what, They're gonna
make tons of money from this. So youmus smugglers win,
bad colleges win, failing colleges win, and there's more of
high skilled workers in the middle of an AI crunch
that will put more college educated Americans out of work. Okay, Well,
other other features of the bill I want to go
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over very quickly. Preventing illegal aliens from this is what
this states. This is the bullet points that they gave
out when they were doing press releases. It says they're
going to prevent hiring illegal aliens to protect American jobs.
That is already a law, and apparently these twenty Republicans
really don't like enforcing the laws on the book, so
this won't Actually, the current law is not enforced about
(15:18):
protecting American jobs from illegal aliens. It's force if you
go through lawsuits, but it's already on the book, so
that does absolutely nothing. It's just you know, sugarcoating this
crap sandwich that they're offering people. And I know I'm
swearing a little bit more than I usually do, because
I know never swear on this podcast, but I'm very
irritated about this. It grants permanent residency for Dreamers. Of course,
(15:39):
you know they haven't gotten enough anyone illegally in the
country before twenty twenty one qualifies, and once again a
liberal judge comes in. It's going to be anyone from
the Biden years too. And then visa reform, And if
you think that means ending visa abuse, you are wrong.
It means it makes it easier for foreigners to get
visas without returning to their home country to apply. Sponsors
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of the bill claim that high skilled workers are in need,
and once again do not have any clue what's going
on with kids coming out of college right now and
how hard it is in most sectors of the economy
for them to find a work find a job at
this exact moment. Here are the twenty Republicans sponsoring this bill,
(16:23):
and if you live in their district, I want you
to do me a favor. I never asked. Besides liking subscribing,
I never asked for my listeners. Do me a favor,
Do me a favor, and call these Republicans and tell
them you if you live in their district. Don't call
them if you don't live in the district, but if
you live in the district, call them and say you
will not vote for them in the general election. Even
if that means a Democrat wins. The number for the
(16:46):
Congressional switchboard is two two two two four three one
two one. They your names are David Valdeo, Republican from
California's twenty second district. Young Kim California's fortieth district. Gabe Evans,
Colorado's eighth Isshi district. Maria Elvira Salazar, Florida's twenty seventh district.
She's the main sponsor of the bill and overall a
(17:07):
terrible member of Congress. Mario Diaz Barlette, Florida's twenty sixth district.
Neil Dunn, Florida's second district, Zachary Nunn, Iowa's third district.
Marlon Stutsman, Indiana's third district, also a terrible member of Congress.
James Bard Indiana's fourth district. Don Bacon he is retiring,
so doesn't matter calling him, but he's Nebraska's second district.
(17:28):
Mike Lawler, New York seventeen. Nick Lolota in New York's
first district, Mike Kelly Pennsylvania's sixteenth district. Brian Fitzpatrick, Pennsylvania's
first district. Lloyd Smucker, Pennsylvania's eleventh district, Monica de la Cruz,
Texas's fifteenth district, Jennifer Kiggins Virginia's second district, and Dan
Newhouse is also retiring Washington State's fourth district. Every one
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of these congressmen is in a district that Trump won
campaigning on mass deportation. Except for Fitzpatrick, Lawler, and Bacon,
every other one of them had Republicans go to the
polls to vote for Trump's agenda of mass deportation. This
is a betrayal. I'm going to have to start a
super pac like I did with school board elections on
immigration to ouse people like this. I have no other
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choice because no one's doing anything and they are stabbing
Republicans in the back over and over. Some of these
districts are so Republican. Lloyd Smucker, Nick Loloda, Marlin Stutsman,
Zachary Nunn, Neil Dunn. What are you people doing? Have
you talked to a Republican this year? It is ridiculous. Okay,
(18:36):
last thing. We're gonna go on a main topic right now,
and that is the what is happening in Virginia. Republican
people in Virginia are starting to regret their vote for
the governor Spamberger or Virginia Governor Spamburger, It's not surprising.
A new Washington Post Scholars poll found that Spamburger's poll
numbers have fallen to forty seven percent, with forty six
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percent disapproving. She won by the way by double digits.
She's underwater by double digits with Virginia exerbs North Virginia
outside of loud in Central and western Virginia, and a
statistical tie in Richmond and Loudon not great. She's underwater
with men, Republicans, voters over fifty, and white voters. She's
only tied with independents, young voters, latinos Asians, and voters
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with a college degree, and white voters with a college degree.
These are all groups she won by huge margins just
six months ago. She's importantly down by six points among
very likely voters. One in ten who support her say
they have an unfavorable opinion of her. That's not enough
for Republicans to win, but that is a start. A
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Pluralia voters thinks she is too liberal and her policies
will make life more expensive for people living in Virginia.
That is the truth. Her policies democratic policies are making
Virginia and turning into Maryland and all the other states
of people are fleeing from with me to discuss Virginia. Yeah,
and Spamburger is Amber Duke, the editor in cheap of
(20:03):
the Daily Caller that is coming up next with me
on today's episode discuss everything happening in Virginia. Is my
friend Amber Duke. She is the editor in chief of
the Daily Caller. Amber, thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Thanks for having me, Ryan.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
So we are looking at Governor Spamberger's poll numbers in
the worst position any incumbent governor of Virginia has been in. Now,
one of my listeners, Virginia is a very unique state
in the sense the governor can run for reelection, but
not consecutively. They you have to take a break and
then run again. So no governor of Virginia's ever been
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re elected. So I guess that that kind of fears over.
But for a woman who won by such a large margin,
you're seeing her poll numbers at the worst place it's
been even compared to Republican governors for a blue state.
What have you experienced. I know you're a Virginia resident
and you've been in Virginia for a while. What are
you seeing as far as her message kind of falling
(21:00):
apart and her political coalition falling apart.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, So I lived in Forbacks County and I've been
a Virginia resident for ten years now, actually this year.
And what this Washington Post poll that you're referring to
shows is that despite winning by double digits against the
Lieutenant Governor Winsome Sears, Spanberger has the worst approval reading
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among eight or nine of her predecessors. It's basically since
the Washington Post started doing the poll in the early
nineteen nineties. She has forty seven percent approval to forty
six percent disapproval. And the common refrain that I hear
from my fellow Virginia residents and just looking at the
conversation that's been happening in the news media is that
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people feel like there was a rug full moment. She
campaigned on being a moderate, focusing on affordability, and yet
as soon as she got into office in January, the
very first thing she did was she revoked the program
that required state police to cooperate with ICE on immigration enforcement.
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And we have heavy MS thirteen gang activity in northern Virginia.
There was actually a top five leader of the gang
that was arrested by the Trump administration in Woodbridge, just
south of where I live. Last year. There's also been
a series of illegal alien murders in Fairfax County that
have been let off the hook prior to them actually
(22:30):
allegedly committing the murder by the county prosecutor, Steve Descano,
who is a Soros prosecutor and just in general a
really big problem with illegal immigration. So that's number one.
Then number two. Her party takes control of the House
of Delegates as well as the state Senate. They have
majorities in both chambers of the legislative body, and they
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immediately introduced packages of legislation that are completely left wing
from encounter to what Spamburger campaigned on. So we're talking
about tax increases across the board on a variety of
different items, whether it's entertainment, restaurants, small businesses, basically every
facet of your life, your taxes are going to go up.
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That's not affordability. And then they also institute a whole
bunch of green climate policies, things like you're not allowed
to use a gas powered leaf flower, and they also
try to revoke tough on crime policies from the young
Kid administration. They want to get rid of mandatory minimums,
three strikes laws, all of those things. So basically, any
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leftover policy that kept Virginia semi sane and safe from
the previous governors, even Terry mcculliff wasn't as bad. Frankly,
it is at danger of being overturned by the Democrats.
And one final thing is that as they're doing all
of this, including the soft on crime refusal to cooperate
on immigration enforcement, they also want to take away your guns.
(23:58):
So if you're a legal gun owner in rigid and
you want the opportunity to protect yourself, that's also potentially
going away under the Democrat rule.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah. And the interesting thing about this poll, especially found
in the cross Steps, is high propensity voters. Voters who
voted in twenty twenty five, four and two were the
most had the biggest objection to not only Spamburger but
her redistricting effort to make it Virginia ten to one
Democrat congressional state. You know, I had a political Polster
(24:30):
or a Polsterberg consultant on this show many many months ago,
and he said, off of the bats, Spamberger was plotting
a presidential run, that Spamberger really wanted to run for president,
that that was her goal. And this is if this
is about opposing Trump, she's doing a very good job.
But it's like a checklist of It's like a what
(24:55):
is it word gabor or a mad mad list ad
lits of like credit policies. Nobody wakes up in the
morning and says, you know what I really am against.
It's gas powered leaf blowers, but it really is. And
the Speaker of the House, the Democratic Speaker of the
House in Virginia, is she's like eighty three or eighty
(25:17):
four years old. She is as far left as they come,
and is really I think she's really driving the ship.
It looks like it doesn't really look like spam Burger
is as in charge as the most radical parts of
the Democrats and the state legislature.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
And that's led to a lot of speculation from people
that perhaps Spamburger is going to serve as the foil
to the Democratic legislature in veto a lot of the
crazy legislation that they're pushing through. The first test of
that theory will be the gun control legislation. They basically
sent a couple of bills to her desk that would
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have a huge impact on legal gun ownership. It would
basically ban any ar style rifle, including Air fifteen, which
are the most popular semi automatic rifles in the country.
They It would also put magazine capacity limits, a bunch
of restrictions on gun store owners. So basically, they want
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to ban guns without explicitly banning guns. They just want
to make it really difficult to sell and buy them.
And so I'm curious to see what Smamberger does with that.
If she sends it back to them, they might be
able to override the veto, But that could be an
indication that maybe she's trying to play like the moderate
oil to the progressive Democrats in the legislature. But based
(26:36):
on the fact that she has reversed this ice policy,
that doesn't seem super likely to me. And I think
you know, one helpful way to frame what's happening in
Virginia is that if you are someone who works in
downtown DC, you basically have an option of living in
a Maryland suburb or a Northern Virginia suburb of the city.
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And I grew up in Maryland. There are red pockets
still in that state, but everything surrounding DC is incredibly blue.
So people who wanted to get away from the Maryland
craziness typically choose to live in Northern Virginia, And even
though it is a very democrat, heavily democrat area, it
wasn't quite as woke or progressive as the Maryland suburbs.
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That is quickly changing, and so for people who work
in DC, they're starting to run out of options. And
I've heard a lot of people talk about potentially going
to West Virginia and taking the train into the city
because they really just feel stuck where they can basically
not have a less than one hour commute to their
workplace and live in a place that is sane and
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common sense.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Well, it's actually even crazy in that, you know, I
have property in Pennsylvania. I've been to Pennsylvania a lot.
Lancaster now offers flights direct flights to BWI, and people
have moved from DC seat to Lancaster, Pennsylvania and they
fly in. It's a really cheap light. It's like twenty crazy,
(28:05):
but it is. If you don't have to be there
every day, there's no sense of staying there, and you
could live in a much cheaper, much nicer part so
the urban sprawl of DC to everywhere else to get
away from the insanity that is, you know, Montgomery County
or Fairfax County, and the price is absolutely no joke.
(28:26):
I want to talk though about, you know, in right
now where President Trump's been very effectively cracking down on
immigration and there's been self deportations, and we're looking at
blue states seeing in exodus and in this sense of
and I talk this on the podcast a lot. In
twenty thirty, we have this redistricting effort going on California,
New York, Illinois will lose almost a dozen seats between
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the three of them. Oregon's going to lose seats. Virginia
is one of the few Blue states that is really
a larger Blue states that is not in the same
precarious situation that other Blue states are. It would seem
almost logical that they would not want to be in
the place where that they are in losing congressional seats.
(29:08):
But my question to you on the point of it
is is that when it comes to political power or
just quality of life issues, for a lot of Democrats,
not for all of them. Jerry pols is not like
this the governor of Connecticut's not like this, But for
anyone with the presidential ambitions, you have to choose far
left power. And what does that say about the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, it's a good question, and I think tying it
back to this jerrymandering effort is really important because Spanberger
has been full throatedly endorsing what the Democrats are trying
to do on redistricting in Virginia with the aid of
former President Barack Obama. They've dropped millions of dollars to
run ads with his face.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
On them in Virginia.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And yet I've got to say, even in Fairfax County,
which is very blue, I see way more no signs
than Yes signs. To your point, going back to that
Washington Post pull about high propensity voters, this redistricting is
completely insane because not only does it switch the balance
from six to five Democrat to Republican favor to ten
(30:15):
to one Democrat districts to Republican districts, but the way
that it's actually being marketed to voters and the way
that it appears on the ballot is so unbelievably unfair. Ironically,
because on the ballot this measure is described as temporary,
which most people would hear temporary and think, Okay, it's
(30:36):
just for twenty twenty eight. Let's say it actually goes
until twenty thirty, when the new census is done, which
is how this ties back into your question. And I
think a lot of people don't believe actually that it's
going to stop there anyway, because if Democrats don't get
the result that they want out of the twenty thirty
census and Virginia does bleed voters from especially the Nova area,
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I think people feel like they're just going to go
ahead and extend this ten to one map, and I
think that's probably what their plan is, to keep control
of power. And then the other part of it that's
really important to note is that on the ballot it
describes this as fair maps, So voters don't get to
see a picture of the map, they don't get to
see what the new political balance is going to be.
(31:23):
They just read on the ballot initiative a temporary redrawing
to have fair maps. And Republicans try to amend that
language during the legislative session to be more accurate about
what was actually happening here, and the Democrat majority strapped
(31:44):
down that amendment so that they could say fair maps,
and Spamburger had nothing to say about it. So if
she does have presidential ambitions, I think this is pretty
clear that she is more obsessed with trying to go
with the Demmo majority in their grabbing of power than
she is is trying to govern as a sort of
(32:08):
pragmatic moderate.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
You know, it's so interesting you said that because in
the poll in the Washington Post Pole, something like nine
percent of voters or eight percent of voters said that
the poll that the redrawing will be more fair for
Republicans than the current map is. And I and I
just was like, and like, something like eight percent or
nine percent of Republicans support. Now, that could be Barbara Comstock,
the former Republican congressman who's now full blown, you know,
(32:35):
Trump drangement syndrome. But it's more likely a lot of
confused voters who just think that this would be you know,
the idea of fairness is something that's almost sank or
saying to a lot of Americans, and they innately believe
in it, and they've been lied to so thoroughly. I
wonder what the political ramification is going as given that
(32:55):
high propensity voters are so opposed to this. Democrats only
have a one c majority in the state Senate, and
the state Senate elections are not this year. I think
they're at the following year. Are any Republicans trying to
seison this because also Glenn Youngkin has been completely mia
He's the most popular Republican in the state and he's
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nowhere to be found against this measure.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, so I have not heard about what Guncan is doing,
but I do know that former AG Jason Miris is
working with I believe it's called Virginians for Fair Elections,
which is launching a grassroots counter effort to this campaign
by the Democrats. The Virginia GOP is also involved in
working with me as his group, as is the Republican
(33:40):
National Committee, but they're keeping it relatively quiet, right. They
want to route this through third party groups that are
local to Virginia because what would be a deathnell for
the Republican effort to defeat this would be making it
more about Trump. They don't want the perception that the
President is railing against the Democrats quote unquote fair maps,
because that gives more cover to the Obama Spaanburger backed
(34:04):
persuasion effort and to hammer that point that you brought
up about voters being confused the competing signs that are
being shared around Virginia and showing up in people's yards.
The ones that are for the jerrymandering say vote yes
for fair maps, and the ones that are against it
say vote no to rigged maps. So that's like the
(34:26):
level of distillation and messaging that we've gotten to, and
it's really going to come down to the ground game. Now.
The high propensity poll is really important here because what
do we know about special elections and midterms. It's the
high propensity people who show up. And it's one of
the things that's plagued the Trump Republican Party is that
(34:47):
the load of midprop voters who show up for him
in presidentials don't show up in special elections the midterms. Well,
if high propensity voters are the ones who are more
likely to oppose this, and they're the ones who are
most likely going to vote on this, Democrats are starting
to get worried. And I will tell you that my
conservative and Republican friends who are working on this on
(35:07):
an activist level and on a grassroots level have started
to notice that the Democrats are pouring more money and
resources into this fight because they are starting to panic
a little bit. The early mail in ballots were not
breaking quite the way that they hoped. So if I
had to give you a prediction right now, you didn't
ask for one, I'll give you one.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Anyway. If I had to give.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
You a prediction, I would say it's more likely than
not that the redistricting passes, but it's going to be
a lot closer than people anticipate.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, I've been breaking down the data as it comes in,
preasing by precinct, and Obama has been extremely effective at
bringing out lower black Virginians Love Obama, do they? Yeah,
it's crazy, Well he's been. He's been immensely effective at that. Now,
the one thing that did that changes things a little
bit is, and this is very niche, but they thing
(36:02):
called satellite voting, And basically they have a lot of
satellite sites where you can go vote in person throughout Virginia.
For whatever reason, a number of Northern Virginia counties that
are Democrat reduce their satellite voting sites, and turnout is
down substantially in those satellite voting sites. So who knows
what that is. So far early voting is higher in
(36:24):
this election than even in the governor's election. It will
be very, very, you know, interesting what it says. And
if it fail, if it passes, they're still going to
go to the courts, which maybe is what they're always
hoping for. Maybe maybe that's what the form of age
is hoping for us to go to the courts and
went to the courts. But it does tell of a
real division within the state that overwhelmingly supported an entire Democrat.
(36:47):
It's late, just six months ago. Amber. Where can you
go to read more of what you guys write about
and in your social media and everything.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah? Absolutely, they can find me at Dailycollar dot com.
That's where all of our work is, through our reporters
and our commentators, and then my personal X account is
at Amber Marie Duke.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Amber is a mensh and super smart. You should definitely
follow her. Thank you for this podcast. I really appreciate it.
Thanks Ryan. Now it's time for the Ask Me Anything segment.
If you want to be part of the Ask Me
Anything segment, email me Ryan at Numbers Game Podcast. That's
Ryan at Numbers Numbers Plural Numbers Gamepodcast. Dot com. First
of all, I have a listener to Amerie. You wrote
(37:29):
me the most heartwarming and touching and kindest email I
could have possibly imagined. And it really really really like
blew me away. And I want to thank you from
Bob my heart. I don't get compliments every day working
and so this was really nice that you sent that
to me, So thank you. First. Second, first question though
of the show comes from Bradley. He says, I love
(37:50):
your show. Can you explain why Congress doesn't pass simple bills?
Why does every bill have like thirty different things in it?
For example, the Save Act? A lot of Democrats they
support voter ID but just not the extreme Save Act,
which includes passports for verification and requires clean up of
voter roles. Why not start they simple driver's licenses and
have a vote. See if it passes, then another portion
(38:11):
of the bill can move on. Why do not put
a vote for not counting illegals in the census? I
feel like it's a ninety ten issue. People do not
realize the illegals are counted. Great question. Okay, so, first
of all, Republicans did do that with the Save Act.
They did pass a simple driver's license to show voter
ID law without all of the rest of the Stave
Act in it, and it failed. It failed fifty three
(38:33):
forty seven. Every Democrat voted down, including Fetterman, who always
likes to pretendings a Republican when times suits him. But
they all voted for it down. So they did that.
Their opposition is not about changing the last name or
the passport or all the other stuff that is for
the cameras. They don't want voter ID because they don't
(38:54):
want it. They want people who are either illegally in
the country or don't register on time, or voting for
somebody else, all the other things going to vote. When
you live in New York State, which I have voted
in for my entire life, if you show them your
picture I d they will say, please, don't show me that.
(39:15):
All you have to do is just sign the correct way. Now,
some people who are more judicious in what they do
the vote, the poll watchers, they will say, this doesn't
match the signature. A lot of them don't. And you
know everyone people always say that elections are stolen because
of illegals, or because of the mail in voter or whatever.
(39:37):
Typically and historically, how elections have been stolen in the past.
There have been a few local elections who have been stolen,
like there's one in Connecticut where was the mail in voters. Typically,
what it is is that polling sites that are in
apartment complexes or in the projects, where there's a lot
of black voters and not extremely judicious voter ID regulation,
(40:00):
they will have them all go vote at the end
of the day and they'll just start pulling people. And
when they don't pull people, they will have other people
vote for them. I mean, this is what I've heard
from old school political consultants, many of which are dead now.
But that's how they stole elections back in the seventies
and eighties. Okay, next question, Christmas Cincinnati. Ryan, thank you
for being consistent voice railing against data centers. Check out
(40:22):
this horrible story he sent me a story that was insane.
There is a data center going up at a it's
a mobile home camp in in the place of mobile
camp in Kentucky. These are all Republican voters, lots of elderly,
lots of veterans, and they have three months to find
a new home. And it was heartbreaking. It was from
(40:44):
lex eighteen dot com. It's called the Metland Village residents.
If you want to listen read it. It is terrible.
The democratic governor is not doing anything for these people.
My guess is that they did not support him. They
probably are all Trump voters or mostly Trump voters. I
looked at the where the map is. It's a very
red area. So heartbreaking, really genuinely heartbreaking what these data
(41:05):
centers are doing. And it's more bad press that they
should be working to get positive press, given how many
people are annoyed by the AI stuff. Okay, last question
for this podcast. It's from Trevor. Trevor says, Hey, Ryan,
a huge fan of the show. You become my favorite
podcast as a late Trevor, thank you so much. Other
podcasts are black pilling in their audiences with personal beef,
(41:25):
conspiracies and Israel. I try. I talked about Israel today,
so Trevor, I hope I didn't fail you. The reporting
was just so good. I'm not out giving you conspiracies.
I'm just I'm telling you information as it comes to
me that I think is really important. So stay on
the message. My question is, and Culter has been saying
for years that if amnesty ever goes through the entire
country will become a one party state like California, and
(41:46):
there's nothing that the right can do to ever change
it again with the Democratic Party becoming so radical, My
big fears in twenty twenty eight and beyond it is
if they win back to the House, in the Senate,
in the White House, they will nuke the filibuster, pass amnesty,
open the orders back up to more Third World migrants,
pack the Supreme Court and mid DC, Puerto Rico and
Guama States band voter ID. While this scenario would obviously
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be extremely bad, do you agree with and that it
would be completely over for us? Or do you think
that there is still a path forward? If yes, what
that path? What does that path look like? And if no,
should we consider a national divorce. I'm in my twenties
and trying to stay optimistic about the future. Thank you
for the therapy session. You're welcome, Trevor for the therapy session.
And once again, I hope my news about Israel didn't
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throw me in the conspiracy wing. Do I think that
it's over if an amnesty goes through? It is basically
I mean, I mean it takes a while to happen,
so it won't happen immediately, and they have to process
it and then apply for citizenship. It'll take a couple
of years. But yeah, I mean, there's never been an
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election in our history where a majority of Latinos voted
for Republican. There's never been a modern election where a
majority black voters. There's some data that says a majority
of recent immigrants voted for Trump in the twenty twenty
four election, and maybe that's true. Is it over over?
You know? I don't know. Like there have been election cycles,
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and there have been news cycles that like Mille wasn't
supposed to win in Argentina, that's a socialist country. And
there have been other victories that shouldn't have happened that
did happen. So is it impossible for other victory to happened? No,
nothing is impossible, right, I want to put that in there,
But it will be very, very very difficult to stack.
The cars are stacked so heavily against Republicans. If Reagan
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or or Reagan nineteen eighty, or if Bush in two
thousand had to run with the demographics of America today
and so the Democrats they ran in, they would not
have won. It's a much. I mean, demographics have changed
this country profoundly, and it made it much harder for Republicans.
That's why, honestly, Trump's probably a more skilled politician than
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all of those other people, because winning in this cycle
is much more difficult. What is should we consider a
national divorce? No, national divorce is so stupid. We're not
going to get anything from a national divorce. They always
talk about this. At the end of the day, no
one really wants to live in the nation of California
or Texas. They want to live in America, the best bet.
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And I mean this sounds like hokey, and this sounds
like it's you know, I'm taking points from like Glenn
Beck or whatever, but this is the truth. You want
a federal government with extremely limited powers. You want an
ability to have state governments that have the most amount
of powers. This is why the founders set up the
country like this at the end at you know, in
the beginning of presidency, at the beginning of the country,
presidents did not have that kind of robust influence the
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way they do now. Certainly Congress did, and all the
way through the nineteenth century. You want more limitations on it,
and the good thing that Trump did is that the
judiciary is very conservative right now, so a lot of
things could possibly get strict down and we'll have to
kind of wait and see. I mean, the amnesty thing
is very very dangerous. The other good thing that Trump
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is doing right now is, yeah, these mass deportations is
not deporting twenty million people like people think it would,
but self deportations are also happening. You see it in
the birth data, you see in the housing data, you
see it in the economic data. It's so evident that
there are less foreigners living in this country today than
there were. That has to continue for four years. That's
why I tell you guys all the time, don't take
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the pedal. Don't don't take your foot off the pedal
for whatever happens. I don't care how many negative stories
there are about Ice. We have to dwindle the illegal
alien population to as close to nothing as possible, because
then an amnesty doesn't do anything. And that's really the goal.
But yeah, the Democrats are and you see in the
Virginia election that's happening right now. Virginia Democrats are are
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about absolute power at all times. They are everything that
they use. Republicans of I just you need to know
that they are everything that you that they accuse Republicans of.
So twenty twenty six really matters. Twenty twenty eight is
a huge deal. We have to get to the twenty
thirties because in the twenty thirties, if we can keep
the Republican presidency. In twenty twenty eight, even if we
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lose the Senate, even if we lose the House, or
we need one or the other, we need the House
in the Senate, we need some kind of combination. If
we make it through the twenty thirties, the map changes
California and New York, Illinois, Oregon. They lose so many
seats that Democrats have to run inside baseball like you
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guys know, I don't like sports. Whatever that term is,
an inside flush, an inside home run, whatever the hell
it's called. They have to run a perfect game to
win the presidency because they need Georgia and Arizona, they
need a North Carolina. The amount of Blue states losing
electoral power is so profound that it really hurts them
throughout the entire decade, and there's probably no going back
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after that anyway. Positive thing we got to get through
the next five years. We're gonna make it. I promise you, Trevor.
It's all okay, you know, live a good life, have
some good meals. Eating is the best therapy, I always say.
But live a good life, have some good meals, have
some Italian food. You'll get through. We'll all get through it,
and I'll be okay. I promise you. All right, that's
this episode. Please like and subscribe if you like this
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We're trying to grow the channel. I appreciate you all,
thank you so much for listening. I will talk to
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