In this episode, Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz break down the biggest stories of the week—from Christmas season debates to the growing controversy around the Elf on the Shelf tradition. They examine the tragic National Guard shooting and what it means for public safety, explore the broader implications of Afghan immigration and recent U.S. military actions, and unpack a stunning welfare fraud scandal in Minnesota. This episode closes on a lighter note with a deep dive into the latest college football drama, including Lane Kiffin’s headline-grabbing move from Ole Miss to LSU. Normally is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Tuesday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, guys, were come back on normally so normal it
takes for women news it gets weird post Thanksgiving officially
Christmas season.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm Mary Kevin Neil. I am Carol Markowitz, and I
love Christmas, so I'm very excited about this, although again
I think we talked about it on a previous episode
where the lights are all up all over South Florida
since like I don't know, Halloween and the Christmas music
at TJ Max is playing NonStop, I mean for the
last month, so I'm very happy about all of that.
(00:36):
The Christmas. I don't know people who hate Christmas. I
can't even imagine who that might be, might not be,
but I can't get enough.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, it's a good time of year. It is, and
I usually start around Thanksgiving week. I try not to
do like beginning of November, like let Thanksgiving have its moment.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
But we have officially moved on.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Here and we have a tree I love it about
to be decorated this week.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I also saw that you did a post over the
weekend about saying no to Elf on the shelf. I
really enjoyed that, even though it doesn't apply to me
very very much. They tried to bring it to Jews,
it was like, I don't even know Rabbi on the whatever,
I don't know, or like Shlomo on the I don't know.
But yeah, I didn't take no way i'd be doing that.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It's like, and it's the thing is, it's not even
I don't particularly like Elf on the shelf and some
people have issues with the big brotherism of it at
all because he's there like watching your kids to make
sure they behave and reporting back to annority figure in Santa.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
However, I just think it's one of those things like I.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Want an extra daily duty of right making sure before
my kids are up to By the way, content warning
on this if you have kids listening. Yeah, but do
I want that on my plate giving. I'm doing plenty
of Christmas cheer without that, so feel free to leave something.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, you're bringing the magic in other ways, I am
fully with you. I you know, it's cute. I like
one friend post, you know, clever things that they do
with their alf on a shelf. But yeah, I wouldn't yes, either, Yeah,
I appreciated that. I just I liked your overall point.
Saying no to children is okay. I like a lot
of parents need to internalize that.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yes, far more, far more than are doing it now.
I think so.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
It was a big news week actually while we were away.
The very sad story from the last few days is
that two National Guard members were shot in Washington.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
D C.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Romanula La Khanawall shot specialist Sarah Begstrom and allegedly picked
up Beckstrom's weapon and continued shooting at twenty four year
old Guard Sergeant Andrew Wolf. Beckstrom has died from her injuries,
Andrew Wolf remains in critical condition. It's a horrible story,
made even more horrible by the fact that it looks
(02:53):
like Lakanwall was radicalized in America, that he arrived in
the US potentially not radicalized, and picked up the radicalization
in his home of Bellingham, Washington.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, it sounds like he was a pretty highly vetted
actually person who worked with the military in Afghanistan, worked
in concert with the CIA, was a person who would
have been sort of passed through during the slap dash
withdrawal process because he had a badge that indicated he had.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Been through some of these processes.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
And first of all, prayers for both of those families,
I think Wolf. There continue to be reports that Andy
Wolf is doing fairly well and that is looking promising,
but he is obviously still in the hospital.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
There was also another Guard member who.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Apparently armed with a pocket knife, Yeah, took down the shooter,
So thank you to him. And then it's also made
more tragic by reactions which include up up into an
including Democrat lawmakers saying the real problem is that the
Guard was on the streets of DC and they shouldn't
(04:05):
have been there, implying that this provocation of merely having
uniformed honorable young men and women on the streets of
DC making things safer, yeah, is somehow justification for an
execution style ambush of them.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Right. Also, as if he wasn't going to shoot somebody else,
like as if he would only have accepted a National
Guard target. It's that's ridiculous. Yeah, there's a lot of
that in the last few days. It's just unfortunate that
this kind of thing is where their minds go. Instead
of saying, hey, violence is wrong, it's like, well, you know,
(04:44):
maybe Trump had something to do with it, because.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's also weird to say they're like they were here unnecessarily.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
All they're doing is picking up trash. It's not true.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
The presence has made things safe in the city, whether
you think they should be there or not. But it
is weird to say there's nothing to do but pick
up trash in a city where people were just executed,
attempted executed in one case and actually successfully in.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Another in broad daylight. Like, perhaps we do have some things.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yes, one or two things crime wise can be fixed
in your in Washington, d C. I was in DC.
I saw you right before Halloween, and I saw a
lot of National guardsmen on the street. I loved seeing them.
It did make me feel more safe and secure, and
I really appreciate them.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, and in my experience, just like unfailingly kind and
polite to people, like doing their thing without being obtrusive
at all.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Right, Yeah, they deserve far more respect than they're getting
from the left side of the aisle, and that's really unfortunate.
The other big story of the last few.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Days, can we ask real quick, can we have a
quick discussion of what this means for vetting of Afghan immigrants.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, what that looks like.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Trump of course is saying like I'm going to reevaluate
a bunch of this stuff. And I think a lot
of people are probably pretty comfortable.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
With that move. I wonder, I do wonder how it
works and how it looks.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
It cannot be denied that Biden skipped a bunch of
steps trying to get a bunch of people out of
Afghanistan out of a problem he created, right, right, and
we do need to reckon with that. It is not
the case that a bunch of Afghan nationals have been
involved in terroristic plots, but this.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
One and another one was broken up this week.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
In this afghanet will arrested over an alleged bomb threat
according to DHS. So if a lot, that's certainly an
escalation in what we've have been seeing. And if they're
being radicalized once they got here, that's let's try to
figure this out, as as Trump once famously said, let's
shut it down, joymicking this.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Out so we can figure out what's going on. Yep, Yeah,
that's absolutely right. Also, I've seen people blaming Trump for
Afghan nationals being in the US, and I'm sure that
that he's read the takes on that as well, so
he's like, Okay, you want to do this, let's really
shut things down, and I shall not.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Also, I know personally Afghan families who made it out
partly thanks to the work of friends of mine who
were former military who got in touch with the right
people and smuggled them into the right place because there
was no plan in writing. And those folks have integrated
in sort of amazing and beautiful ways into USC and
they have Thanksgiving dinners with my friends like this is.
(07:33):
There are two different stories, but the verification process was
not real and not what they would have been subjected
to in many other scenarios.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Right all around. The border story and just the immigration
story of the Biden years is so bad and continuing
to just have an effect on us all. I think
that it's very hard for us to get some sort
of reset where Americans are going to you know, be
pro immigration again, which we were for the majority of
(08:09):
time in this country. And I think that it's really
changed in the last few years because of how bad
things got and how open our border was and how
many people came in unvetted, and how we were not
supposed to ask about any of that, and you know,
I don't see that changing anytime soon. The other story
from the last few days, if we're doing straight news,
the Washington Post ran an anonymously sourced piece where Pete
(08:33):
Hegseth had ordered Seal Team six to execute a strike
against Narco terrorists in the Caribbean and he said to
quote kill them all, and an anonymous source told The
Washington Post that one of the commanders ordered a second
strike on a boat when the first one failed to
kill them all.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
So these would have been if it happened, these would
have been defenseless people.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, clinging to.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
The wreckage, sort of a double tap strike. Look, I'm
a little skeptical of the legality of these strikes period,
Like you sort of newly name somebody a terrorist threat
and then you can do what you want.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I'm willing to listen. I would like the justification to
be made, perhaps more thoroughly.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
And then this comes up and I go, okay, well,
what's really going on here? And what was Hecces's response
when asked about this, Because my my first thought is, well,
who's reporting on this?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
It's all anonymous.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
You got Natasha Bertrand over at CNN plod on and saying, oh, yes,
this is real, and it's like, okay, well you were
like Queen of Russia Gates. I'm just not sure how
much I can.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Anonymous sources say, is never never a great start for CNN.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, that concerns me. But hegcess response was a sort
of a non denial denial.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, yeah, I would have loved to see kind of more.
And he did, you know, he called it fake news.
He said, they're delivering more fabricated, inflammatory and derogatory reporting
to discredit our incredible or you're fighting to protect the homeland.
It was a long post on X. The reaction from
the left is to say, you're a war criminal and
(10:09):
we're going to prosecute you. Harry Sisson, who is you know,
the twenty three year old Democrat who all Democrats are
for some reason listening to tweeted. So to be clear,
you aren't denying the reporting and are confirming you killed
two defenseless people. I mean, obviously he did not confirm that.
We don't know if they were guilty or not, who
didn't pose an immediate threat. Instead of prosecuting them, we'll
(10:31):
see what a jury thinks during your trial in twenty nine, which, Harry,
bless your heart. If you don't know what's going to
happen in twenty twenty nine. Everybody in the Trump administration
is going to be pardoned because they learned a valuable
lesson from the Biden administration. You could just give blanket
pardons and it doesn't matter if they did anything. You
don't even need to specify any particular crimes, and you
(10:52):
don't even specify a year. You could just say last
ten years. Why not, you know, play stupid games, win
stupid prizes, don't have on that show trial.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
This is an interesting wrinkle in this where people are like,
you see what Trump's abuse of the pardon system has
gotten us, And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
Trump could have done what Biden did in his first term,
did not Biden did it, and now we have ratcheting
to equal Biden potentially by the way, potentially, So I
(11:25):
think we have to like pinpoint the origin of the
blanket pardon innovation from Biden. The hag sets response that
I do not like at all is when he tweeted
Franklin the Turtle in an AI produced children's book cover
for your Christmas list. Franklin target targets Narco terrorists and
(11:46):
it has sweet Franklin the Turtle hitten with a rocket
propelled grenade watch or some Narco terrorists.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
We should act like adults about this. I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I know that meme life is where we are.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I know on the times we shouldn't be there, and
the federal government shouldn't be there, And you should deal
seriously with this, and you should make clear that this
is why you think the things you're doing are legal,
and here's why they're important for the American people.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, he did a little bit of both. But yeah,
I'm with you one hundred percent. I think it's not
the time for the meaning although we are to me,
we are to mean economy. I don't know what did
Franklin do.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I haven't seen.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Many years. I like it definitely triggered some nostalgia for me,
that Franklin Franklin taking out the Narco terrorists. I don't
know about the legality of it. I actually I think
I veer away from you because I think I don't
I don't see how it's not legal for the US
to take out what it would deem imminent threats. Obviously,
(12:48):
the second strike would be questionable because we can't just
you can't be going around shooting survivors. And I think
that that's that's that's the question here, like you, I
don't annym sources talking to Natasha bertrand not not really
who I'm going to believe here. We'll see how this
story plays out and we'll follow up on it here.
(13:09):
We'll be right back with more on Normally and a
story out of Minnesota that may end up being the
largest welfare fraud operation in American history.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Be right back, Oki joke Now on Normally, we traveled
to Tim Walts's Minnesota and we have a story out
of the New York Times, which, look, if you were
listening to Normally or reading right leaning journalists, you would
know about this story, and you would have known about
this story while Tim Walts was running on the ticket
with Kamala Harris. Nonetheless, the New York Times is now
(13:41):
it can be told ing about this how fraud swamped
Minnesota's social services system on Tim Waltz's watch.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Fascinating.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
That would have been interesting a cole of months ago.
This is the beginning of the story. The fraud scandal
that rattled Minnesota was staggering in its scale and brazen.
This federal prosecutor was charged dozens of people with felonies,
accusing them of stealing hundreds of millions from a government
program meant to keep children fed during the.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
COVID nineteen pandemic.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
At first, many in the States saw the case as
a one off abuse during a health emergency, but as
new schemes targeting the state's generous safety net programs came
to light. So the deal is that they went searching
through this program that we had known about as the
biggest COVID fraud. Because Jim Garrity and others had reported
on this during the election. The New York Times didn't
find it interesting at that point. But now fifty nine
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people have been prosecuted by the FEDS because once they
looked into one program, they found that all sorts of
programs were being exploited. In one case, providers were reimbursed
for assistance they claimed to have provided to people at
risk of homelessness. They didn't help anyone, just like they
didn't feed any children. In another program, aimed to provide
therapy for autistic children, prosecutors said providers recruited children in
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Minneapolis's Somali community, falsely certifying them as qualifying for autism treatment,
and paying their parents' kickbacks for their cooperation. So it's
like every generous safety net. Oh yeah, it's referred to
and here as a Swedish style version of doing this
in Minnesota was exploited at every turn, and it was
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largely minus I think seven or eight of the people
prosecuted within the Somali American community.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
That's right. I think Chris Rufo deserves a lot of
credit here for breaking this story open. He has been
just all over it and I think he basically bullied
the New York Times into getting into this. So props
to Chris Rufo. It's crazy because when this story first
started hitting, was like people on the left were saying
(15:42):
it's racist or it's you know, somehow anti immigrant to
point out these scams. I mean, let me tell you,
in the Russian community in Brooklyn, there were definitely, I mean,
I know for sure scam various different scams going on,
and every time some story hit, the press would all
be like, please don't be from the Russian community, like
(16:02):
it is embarrassing and it should be something that people
would want to root out and not care who is
involved or how or any of that.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, and here's the thing is that when people start
reacting to a story like this, it's a tell if
the reaction is only you can't say all of us
did this, and it's like okay, fine, nobody's saying all.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Right, who said that? Yeah, the like, are you.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Not concerned that this record breaking fraud happened in your community?
And this is where you get to some of the
woke trap here, which is that a lot of the
reason that this wasn't caught sooner, that people ignored red
flags is because they were afraid of being accused of racism.
There's a quote in here it says, there's a perception
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that forcefully tackling this issue might cause political backlash among
the Somali community, which is a core voting block for Democrats.
They also, by the way, once this food program one
went to trial, the defendants tried to bribe a juror
with one hundred and k in a bag. Yeah, and
the note attached to the bag said that wrong, said like,
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don't be racist.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Here's okay, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, they're really trying that.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
When the fear of racism overrides the need to take
care of taxpayer's money to this degree, you are in
a very bad place.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Walls. Of course, by the way, did you see you
tweeted this weekend. He's like, there will be no pardons
for this. You were on watch this whole time.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Right right, Well, the Minnesota Department of Human Service employees
put out a banger of a tweet and said Tim
Walls is one hundred percent responsible for massive fraud in Minnesota.
It's several hundred words long, so you have to read
it for yourself. But they end up saying we can't
fight fraud in Minnesota alone. Hence why we're appealing to
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the federal level of government for their help. We need
all the help you can get. As Tim Walls agency
leaders have upped their brazen approach and covering up their
knowledge of fraud. It's wild that they're openly saying. They
said Tim Walls is dishonest, lacks ethics and integrity, has
poor leadership skills, that has never taken accountability for his
role in fraud. And they say that they had whistleblowers
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that were retaliated against, and it's just it goes on
and on.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Lisa Damouth is the Republican and current Minnesota House speaker
running against Waltz for his third term.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Is what he's running for because.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
He's overseen this success. So Sally forward and she of
course is noticing this fraud, which is racism in and
of itself. Yeah, she's trying to make this point to
the people of Minnesota, and it just at some point
like how much are you okay with being builked? How
much are you okay with the government going Well, we're
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trying to help people, and this is the cost of
doing business.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Really, the cost of doing business.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Is billions and billions of dollars one of the programs here,
because so many people were fabricated to help the quote
unquote who were not helped, the budget went from like
two million to one hundred and four million in the space.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Of a year. So it's just like funneling cash.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
And one of Rufo's points is that there is some
question about how much of these remittances go back to
Somalia to fund some really bad stuff there.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, that's the you know, question two is where does
this money go? And who are we helping here? It's
bonkers that something of this level went on for so long.
And look, you know, conservatives are against government funding of
lots of things. We're against growing the size of government.
A lot of it is just this kind of thing
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that it leads to unprecedented fraud, and the more money
in the system, the more waste and fraud that's possible.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
So here we are, and you also become a magnet
for people who are willing to exploit the system because
they see this is like such a great gig over here.
I don't have to feed any children or help any
autistic children, or.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
How's the homeless at all?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I can just go to Minnesota and say give me
millions of dollars and they'll just do it.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Seems like a problem.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, all right, well.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Well thanks for noticing New York Times.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
That's pretty much this story. I know New York Times
finally did the right thing, and they are getting criticism
by the way for this. So New York Times only
allow to report what the very leftist base wants them
to report. Of course, all right, we'll continue following this
story also, and we will be right back with a
fun little topic. Football. Let's talk about football. What a
(20:41):
good week? Football? Be right back, We are back on
normally where Mary Katherine him and I. I don't know
why I said your last name. Mary Katherine and I
both have new ten year olds. My youngest and your
second of turn ten. This last week. My ten year
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old has the same theme for his birthday party every
single year, and that is the Dallas Cowboys in some fashion.
I will tell you a lot of years, November late
November is not a great time to be a Cowboys fan.
Yet we break out all the Cowboys stuff anyway, We
put up the signs, we get the balloons. He does
not care we are on those horrible, terrible years. He's
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still Dallas Cowboys all the way. On his birthday. This birthday, however,
was amazing. The Dallas Cowboys, for those that don't know,
beat both teams that played in the Super Bowl last
year this week, just this week, it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
What a week in our weeks.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, I was watching, like, wow, what a Thanksgiving week
for Sorry the Lions.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I really I was rooting for the Lions on Thanksgiving.
You know, there are Thanksgiving buddies, and.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Even on decent years for the Lions, it's a you know,
it's a higher it's low probability that there's going to
be a win on Thanksgiving a day, is my feeling
after having watched for many years. I'm, of course, a
more of a college football fan Georgia Bulldog's doing well,
have to play in the I mean, excuse me, our
privilege to play in the SEC Championship game this weekend.
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There's a thing now where because the college football playoff
is upcoming, threading the needle so that you're good enough
to get to the playoff, but maybe get spared the
crushing SEC Championship game, which is like just tough and
gonna be hard and gonna maybe have injuries, is like
what people are trying to do, and we just were
just too good.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
We're gonna end up at the championship game again with Alabama.
But that's not the story. Now, what's the story.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
By the way, I do appreciate that our coach is like, hey,
if I was worried about injuries, we wouldn't even practice
next week.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
We got a scared team.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
So anyway, elsewhere in college football, it was the real
housewives of college football. In the SEC, there are several
coaching openings, so there's going to be musical chairs going on.
Florida is getting rid of their coach, LSU already got
rid of their coach mid season, and over at Ole
Miss is a man named Lane Kiffin who has been
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a head coach several places, and he's been at ole
Miss for about four or five years and done quite well.
And they have an eleven and one season and they're
about to go to the college football playoffs and have
a shot at the national championship.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
But Lane Kiffin's looking around. He's like, where looking where
could I land? Could I land somewhere else for more money?
And so what he does is leave everybody in the
hook for a month covering the Lane Kiffin will he
won't his story, Yeah, while LSU and Florida woo him,
and over Thanksgiving weekend after ole Miss beats it in
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state rival Mississippi State, he's like, I'll give you guys
an answer. I'll give you guys an answer, you know,
in a day.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
And then again once again, everybody's on the hook following
the Lane kiffn story. At one point it escalates because
a podcaster about Miss football calls Lane Kiffin a hoe.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
He says, well, he says, no, I should not say that.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Exactly what he did was expertly deploy a ludicrous lyric
learne of Lane Kiffen because he said, you can't make
a hoe into a housewife. Yea referring to the fact
that Lane Kiffin likes to jump around and that perhaps
he would was never meant to be a committed head
coach at all Miss Cold. So Lane Kiffin gets mad
about this, I think because it hit a little close
(24:28):
to home, confronts the podcaster in person at the in
state rivalry game, at which point the podcaster looked, frankly
pretty scared. I would have defended myself and been like, like,
my point is valid. You're gonna leave right.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
My point is valid.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Not all podcasters are the same. Let's just talk about that.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Nonetheless, because there was a ludicrous lyric involved and sec football.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I can't action. Yeah, this story is made for Mary Catherine.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
And Kiffin, it must be said, has left the NFL
Oakland Raiders' head coaching job in a fuss where the
owner called him a liar and that he was disrespecting
the institution. And he was like, no, I didn't do
anything wrong. They're like, now you're fired, and an arbitrator
came in was like, yeah, he definitely did something wrong.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
He's fired. Son, he's out. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
He goes to the Tennessee Volunteers for one season before
he jumps once again to something better to usc and
southern California. He works there for a couple of years,
and then jumps over I believe, to Alabama at that point,
where he works for two seasons, and then Saban lets
him go before a championship game because he's so much
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drama and he took.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yet another job, damn, and you gotta go.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And so this time around, by the way, when he
left Tennessee, there were riots at Racio, Tennessee because people
were so angry. So this time around, the day he's
supposed to make the decision, he pushes it off like
three times. He's making negotiations like I should be able
to coach through the championship, which makes no sense because
then you get to take players and coaches and like
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wheedle them and get them lured over to your new
place with you, which is a conference, right.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I can't wait to see where this goes.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
And then he takes the LSU job, gets kicked out
on his butt. LSU sends a private plane to come
pick him up at the airport, and the ole Miss
fans are out there given middle fingers and booze watching
him leave with part of the coaching staff while his
players are back in the athletic department, Like, what is
(26:32):
happening to us? So the hoe.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Goes to Lsu.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Wow, Mary Catherine using the home word.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And my favorite Real Housewives detail is that they put
his clothes on the street outside his house.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
What are you gonna do in Oxford? MISSOSII? It was
a lot, Carol. I do think I.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Haven't heard about any of this, like not even in passing,
not even I had none of it.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Well, now you know, now I know if Lane Kiffin
comes up, And by the way, I do think this
ludicrous lyric is going to follow him his entire career.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Like he's also famous for like covorting with.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Mid twenties co eds and such, so he's like on
many levels, one might say the analogy is working anyway, I.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Wish you were Lane Kiffen.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, oh, poor Lane in four years Lsu, just like,
remember who you hired, because.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
At the end of the day, can't make a whole housewife.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I mean, honestly, the thing that I noticed during this
is like he's a little trumpy in that he is
raw talent, and he's clearly magnetic, and he makes these
programs work for short periods of time, and he is
posting through it.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Like you can't control that man. He is going to
do what Lane's gonna do.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
So all right, where the story do we Where do
we watch this?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Is it some Bravo or you gotta put you got
to pull up the live stream of the Oxford, Mississippi
Airport because that.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Was I think I'm going to have to do that
right after this recording. But Lank Kiffin, here you are
on Normally we don't cover a lot of inside drama
of college sports, but this was a good one. Thank
you for sharing drama all the time. Yeah, I love it.
I mean I think we should do more, you know,
Desperate Housewives it comes to sports moments on the show.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
We should, I should make a trailer should.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
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Christmas season.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm Mary Kevin Neil. I am Carol Markowitz, and I
love Christmas, so I'm very excited about this, although again
I think we talked about it on a previous episode
where the lights are all up all over South Florida
since like I don't know, Halloween and the Christmas music
at TJ Max is playing NonStop, I mean for the
last month, so I'm very happy about all of that.
(00:36):
The Christmas. I don't know people who hate Christmas. I
can't even imagine who that might be, might not be,
but I can't get enough.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, it's a good time of year. It is, and
I usually start around Thanksgiving week. I try not to
do like beginning of November, like let Thanksgiving have its moment.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
But we have officially moved on.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Here and we have a tree I love it about
to be decorated this week.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I also saw that you did a post over the
weekend about saying no to Elf on the shelf. I
really enjoyed that, even though it doesn't apply to me
very very much. They tried to bring it to Jews,
it was like, I don't even know Rabbi on the whatever,
I don't know, or like Shlomo on the I don't know.
But yeah, I didn't take no way i'd be doing that.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It's like, and it's the thing is, it's not even
I don't particularly like Elf on the shelf and some
people have issues with the big brotherism of it at
all because he's there like watching your kids to make
sure they behave and reporting back to annority figure in Santa.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
However, I just think it's one of those things like I.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Want an extra daily duty of right making sure before
my kids are up to By the way, content warning
on this if you have kids listening. Yeah, but do
I want that on my plate giving. I'm doing plenty
of Christmas cheer without that, so feel free to leave something.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, you're bringing the magic in other ways, I am
fully with you. I you know, it's cute. I like
one friend post, you know, clever things that they do
with their alf on a shelf. But yeah, I wouldn't yes, either, Yeah,
I appreciated that. I just I liked your overall point.
Saying no to children is okay. I like a lot
of parents need to internalize that.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yes, far more, far more than are doing it now.
I think so.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
It was a big news week actually while we were away.
The very sad story from the last few days is
that two National Guard members were shot in Washington.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
D C.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Romanula La Khanawall shot specialist Sarah Begstrom and allegedly picked
up Beckstrom's weapon and continued shooting at twenty four year
old Guard Sergeant Andrew Wolf. Beckstrom has died from her injuries,
Andrew Wolf remains in critical condition. It's a horrible story,
made even more horrible by the fact that it looks
(02:53):
like Lakanwall was radicalized in America, that he arrived in
the US potentially not radicalized, and picked up the radicalization
in his home of Bellingham, Washington.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, it sounds like he was a pretty highly vetted
actually person who worked with the military in Afghanistan, worked
in concert with the CIA, was a person who would
have been sort of passed through during the slap dash
withdrawal process because he had a badge that indicated he had.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Been through some of these processes.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
And first of all, prayers for both of those families,
I think Wolf. There continue to be reports that Andy
Wolf is doing fairly well and that is looking promising,
but he is obviously still in the hospital.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
There was also another Guard member who.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Apparently armed with a pocket knife, Yeah, took down the shooter,
So thank you to him. And then it's also made
more tragic by reactions which include up up into an
including Democrat lawmakers saying the real problem is that the
Guard was on the streets of DC and they shouldn't
(04:05):
have been there, implying that this provocation of merely having
uniformed honorable young men and women on the streets of
DC making things safer, yeah, is somehow justification for an
execution style ambush of them.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Right. Also, as if he wasn't going to shoot somebody else,
like as if he would only have accepted a National
Guard target. It's that's ridiculous. Yeah, there's a lot of
that in the last few days. It's just unfortunate that
this kind of thing is where their minds go. Instead
of saying, hey, violence is wrong, it's like, well, you know,
(04:44):
maybe Trump had something to do with it, because.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's also weird to say they're like they were here unnecessarily.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
All they're doing is picking up trash. It's not true.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
The presence has made things safe in the city, whether
you think they should be there or not. But it
is weird to say there's nothing to do but pick
up trash in a city where people were just executed,
attempted executed in one case and actually successfully in.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Another in broad daylight. Like, perhaps we do have some things.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yes, one or two things crime wise can be fixed
in your in Washington, d C. I was in DC.
I saw you right before Halloween, and I saw a
lot of National guardsmen on the street. I loved seeing them.
It did make me feel more safe and secure, and
I really appreciate them.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, and in my experience, just like unfailingly kind and
polite to people, like doing their thing without being obtrusive
at all.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Right, Yeah, they deserve far more respect than they're getting
from the left side of the aisle, and that's really unfortunate.
The other big story of the last few.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Days, can we ask real quick, can we have a
quick discussion of what this means for vetting of Afghan immigrants.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, what that looks like.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Trump of course is saying like I'm going to reevaluate
a bunch of this stuff. And I think a lot
of people are probably pretty comfortable.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
With that move. I wonder, I do wonder how it
works and how it looks.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
It cannot be denied that Biden skipped a bunch of
steps trying to get a bunch of people out of
Afghanistan out of a problem he created, right, right, and
we do need to reckon with that. It is not
the case that a bunch of Afghan nationals have been
involved in terroristic plots, but this.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
One and another one was broken up this week.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
In this afghanet will arrested over an alleged bomb threat
according to DHS. So if a lot, that's certainly an
escalation in what we've have been seeing. And if they're
being radicalized once they got here, that's let's try to
figure this out, as as Trump once famously said, let's
shut it down, joymicking this.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Out so we can figure out what's going on. Yep, Yeah,
that's absolutely right. Also, I've seen people blaming Trump for
Afghan nationals being in the US, and I'm sure that
that he's read the takes on that as well, so
he's like, Okay, you want to do this, let's really
shut things down, and I shall not.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Also, I know personally Afghan families who made it out
partly thanks to the work of friends of mine who
were former military who got in touch with the right
people and smuggled them into the right place because there
was no plan in writing. And those folks have integrated
in sort of amazing and beautiful ways into USC and
they have Thanksgiving dinners with my friends like this is.
(07:33):
There are two different stories, but the verification process was
not real and not what they would have been subjected
to in many other scenarios.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Right all around. The border story and just the immigration
story of the Biden years is so bad and continuing
to just have an effect on us all. I think
that it's very hard for us to get some sort
of reset where Americans are going to you know, be
pro immigration again, which we were for the majority of
(08:09):
time in this country. And I think that it's really
changed in the last few years because of how bad
things got and how open our border was and how
many people came in unvetted, and how we were not
supposed to ask about any of that, and you know,
I don't see that changing anytime soon. The other story
from the last few days, if we're doing straight news,
the Washington Post ran an anonymously sourced piece where Pete
(08:33):
Hegseth had ordered Seal Team six to execute a strike
against Narco terrorists in the Caribbean and he said to
quote kill them all, and an anonymous source told The
Washington Post that one of the commanders ordered a second
strike on a boat when the first one failed to
kill them all.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
So these would have been if it happened, these would
have been defenseless people.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, clinging to.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
The wreckage, sort of a double tap strike. Look, I'm
a little skeptical of the legality of these strikes period,
Like you sort of newly name somebody a terrorist threat
and then you can do what you want.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I'm willing to listen. I would like the justification to
be made, perhaps more thoroughly.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
And then this comes up and I go, okay, well,
what's really going on here? And what was Hecces's response
when asked about this, Because my my first thought is, well,
who's reporting on this?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
It's all anonymous.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
You got Natasha Bertrand over at CNN plod on and saying, oh, yes,
this is real, and it's like, okay, well you were
like Queen of Russia Gates. I'm just not sure how
much I can.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Anonymous sources say, is never never a great start for CNN.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, that concerns me. But hegcess response was a sort
of a non denial denial.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, yeah, I would have loved to see kind of more.
And he did, you know, he called it fake news.
He said, they're delivering more fabricated, inflammatory and derogatory reporting
to discredit our incredible or you're fighting to protect the homeland.
It was a long post on X. The reaction from
the left is to say, you're a war criminal and
(10:09):
we're going to prosecute you. Harry Sisson, who is you know,
the twenty three year old Democrat who all Democrats are
for some reason listening to tweeted. So to be clear,
you aren't denying the reporting and are confirming you killed
two defenseless people. I mean, obviously he did not confirm that.
We don't know if they were guilty or not, who
didn't pose an immediate threat. Instead of prosecuting them, we'll
(10:31):
see what a jury thinks during your trial in twenty nine, which, Harry,
bless your heart. If you don't know what's going to
happen in twenty twenty nine. Everybody in the Trump administration
is going to be pardoned because they learned a valuable
lesson from the Biden administration. You could just give blanket
pardons and it doesn't matter if they did anything. You
don't even need to specify any particular crimes, and you
(10:52):
don't even specify a year. You could just say last
ten years. Why not, you know, play stupid games, win
stupid prizes, don't have on that show trial.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
This is an interesting wrinkle in this where people are like,
you see what Trump's abuse of the pardon system has
gotten us, And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
Trump could have done what Biden did in his first term,
did not Biden did it, and now we have ratcheting
to equal Biden potentially by the way, potentially, So I
(11:25):
think we have to like pinpoint the origin of the
blanket pardon innovation from Biden. The hag sets response that
I do not like at all is when he tweeted
Franklin the Turtle in an AI produced children's book cover
for your Christmas list. Franklin target targets Narco terrorists and
(11:46):
it has sweet Franklin the Turtle hitten with a rocket
propelled grenade watch or some Narco terrorists.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
We should act like adults about this. I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I know that meme life is where we are.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I know on the times we shouldn't be there, and
the federal government shouldn't be there, And you should deal
seriously with this, and you should make clear that this
is why you think the things you're doing are legal,
and here's why they're important for the American people.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, he did a little bit of both. But yeah,
I'm with you one hundred percent. I think it's not
the time for the meaning although we are to me,
we are to mean economy. I don't know what did
Franklin do.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I haven't seen.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Many years. I like it definitely triggered some nostalgia for me,
that Franklin Franklin taking out the Narco terrorists. I don't
know about the legality of it. I actually I think
I veer away from you because I think I don't
I don't see how it's not legal for the US
to take out what it would deem imminent threats. Obviously,
(12:48):
the second strike would be questionable because we can't just
you can't be going around shooting survivors. And I think
that that's that's that's the question here, like you, I
don't annym sources talking to Natasha bertrand not not really
who I'm going to believe here. We'll see how this
story plays out and we'll follow up on it here.
(13:09):
We'll be right back with more on Normally and a
story out of Minnesota that may end up being the
largest welfare fraud operation in American history.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Be right back, Oki joke Now on Normally, we traveled
to Tim Walts's Minnesota and we have a story out
of the New York Times, which, look, if you were
listening to Normally or reading right leaning journalists, you would
know about this story, and you would have known about
this story while Tim Walts was running on the ticket
with Kamala Harris. Nonetheless, the New York Times is now
(13:41):
it can be told ing about this how fraud swamped
Minnesota's social services system on Tim Waltz's watch.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Fascinating.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
That would have been interesting a cole of months ago.
This is the beginning of the story. The fraud scandal
that rattled Minnesota was staggering in its scale and brazen.
This federal prosecutor was charged dozens of people with felonies,
accusing them of stealing hundreds of millions from a government
program meant to keep children fed during the.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
COVID nineteen pandemic.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
At first, many in the States saw the case as
a one off abuse during a health emergency, but as
new schemes targeting the state's generous safety net programs came
to light. So the deal is that they went searching
through this program that we had known about as the
biggest COVID fraud. Because Jim Garrity and others had reported
on this during the election. The New York Times didn't
find it interesting at that point. But now fifty nine
(14:30):
people have been prosecuted by the FEDS because once they
looked into one program, they found that all sorts of
programs were being exploited. In one case, providers were reimbursed
for assistance they claimed to have provided to people at
risk of homelessness. They didn't help anyone, just like they
didn't feed any children. In another program, aimed to provide
therapy for autistic children, prosecutors said providers recruited children in
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Minneapolis's Somali community, falsely certifying them as qualifying for autism treatment,
and paying their parents' kickbacks for their cooperation. So it's
like every generous safety net. Oh yeah, it's referred to
and here as a Swedish style version of doing this
in Minnesota was exploited at every turn, and it was
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largely minus I think seven or eight of the people
prosecuted within the Somali American community.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
That's right. I think Chris Rufo deserves a lot of
credit here for breaking this story open. He has been
just all over it and I think he basically bullied
the New York Times into getting into this. So props
to Chris Rufo. It's crazy because when this story first
started hitting, was like people on the left were saying
(15:42):
it's racist or it's you know, somehow anti immigrant to
point out these scams. I mean, let me tell you,
in the Russian community in Brooklyn, there were definitely, I mean,
I know for sure scam various different scams going on,
and every time some story hit, the press would all
be like, please don't be from the Russian community, like
(16:02):
it is embarrassing and it should be something that people
would want to root out and not care who is
involved or how or any of that.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, and here's the thing is that when people start
reacting to a story like this, it's a tell if
the reaction is only you can't say all of us
did this, and it's like okay, fine, nobody's saying all.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Right, who said that? Yeah, the like, are you.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Not concerned that this record breaking fraud happened in your community?
And this is where you get to some of the
woke trap here, which is that a lot of the
reason that this wasn't caught sooner, that people ignored red
flags is because they were afraid of being accused of racism.
There's a quote in here it says, there's a perception
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that forcefully tackling this issue might cause political backlash among
the Somali community, which is a core voting block for Democrats.
They also, by the way, once this food program one
went to trial, the defendants tried to bribe a juror
with one hundred and k in a bag. Yeah, and
the note attached to the bag said that wrong, said like,
(17:11):
don't be racist.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Here's okay, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, they're really trying that.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
When the fear of racism overrides the need to take
care of taxpayer's money to this degree, you are in
a very bad place.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Walls. Of course, by the way, did you see you
tweeted this weekend. He's like, there will be no pardons
for this. You were on watch this whole time.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Right right, Well, the Minnesota Department of Human Service employees
put out a banger of a tweet and said Tim
Walls is one hundred percent responsible for massive fraud in Minnesota.
It's several hundred words long, so you have to read
it for yourself. But they end up saying we can't
fight fraud in Minnesota alone. Hence why we're appealing to
(17:56):
the federal level of government for their help. We need
all the help you can get. As Tim Walls agency
leaders have upped their brazen approach and covering up their
knowledge of fraud. It's wild that they're openly saying. They
said Tim Walls is dishonest, lacks ethics and integrity, has
poor leadership skills, that has never taken accountability for his
role in fraud. And they say that they had whistleblowers
(18:19):
that were retaliated against, and it's just it goes on
and on.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Lisa Damouth is the Republican and current Minnesota House speaker
running against Waltz for his third term.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Is what he's running for because.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
He's overseen this success. So Sally forward and she of
course is noticing this fraud, which is racism in and
of itself. Yeah, she's trying to make this point to
the people of Minnesota, and it just at some point
like how much are you okay with being builked? How
much are you okay with the government going Well, we're
(18:54):
trying to help people, and this is the cost of
doing business.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Really, the cost of doing business.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Is billions and billions of dollars one of the programs here,
because so many people were fabricated to help the quote
unquote who were not helped, the budget went from like
two million to one hundred and four million in the space.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Of a year. So it's just like funneling cash.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
And one of Rufo's points is that there is some
question about how much of these remittances go back to
Somalia to fund some really bad stuff there.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, that's the you know, question two is where does
this money go? And who are we helping here? It's
bonkers that something of this level went on for so long.
And look, you know, conservatives are against government funding of
lots of things. We're against growing the size of government.
A lot of it is just this kind of thing
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that it leads to unprecedented fraud, and the more money
in the system, the more waste and fraud that's possible.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
So here we are, and you also become a magnet
for people who are willing to exploit the system because
they see this is like such a great gig over here.
I don't have to feed any children or help any
autistic children, or.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
How's the homeless at all?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I can just go to Minnesota and say give me
millions of dollars and they'll just do it.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Seems like a problem.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, all right, well.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Well thanks for noticing New York Times.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
That's pretty much this story. I know New York Times
finally did the right thing, and they are getting criticism
by the way for this. So New York Times only
allow to report what the very leftist base wants them
to report. Of course, all right, we'll continue following this
story also, and we will be right back with a
fun little topic. Football. Let's talk about football. What a
(20:41):
good week? Football? Be right back, We are back on
normally where Mary Katherine him and I. I don't know
why I said your last name. Mary Katherine and I
both have new ten year olds. My youngest and your
second of turn ten. This last week. My ten year
(21:04):
old has the same theme for his birthday party every
single year, and that is the Dallas Cowboys in some fashion.
I will tell you a lot of years, November late
November is not a great time to be a Cowboys fan.
Yet we break out all the Cowboys stuff anyway, We
put up the signs, we get the balloons. He does
not care we are on those horrible, terrible years. He's
(21:28):
still Dallas Cowboys all the way. On his birthday. This birthday, however,
was amazing. The Dallas Cowboys, for those that don't know,
beat both teams that played in the Super Bowl last
year this week, just this week, it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
What a week in our weeks.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, I was watching, like, wow, what a Thanksgiving week
for Sorry the Lions.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I really I was rooting for the Lions on Thanksgiving.
You know, there are Thanksgiving buddies, and.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Even on decent years for the Lions, it's a you know,
it's a higher it's low probability that there's going to
be a win on Thanksgiving a day, is my feeling
after having watched for many years. I'm, of course, a
more of a college football fan Georgia Bulldog's doing well,
have to play in the I mean, excuse me, our
privilege to play in the SEC Championship game this weekend.
(22:20):
There's a thing now where because the college football playoff
is upcoming, threading the needle so that you're good enough
to get to the playoff, but maybe get spared the
crushing SEC Championship game, which is like just tough and
gonna be hard and gonna maybe have injuries, is like
what people are trying to do, and we just were
just too good.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
We're gonna end up at the championship game again with Alabama.
But that's not the story. Now, what's the story.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
By the way, I do appreciate that our coach is like, hey,
if I was worried about injuries, we wouldn't even practice
next week.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
We got a scared team.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
So anyway, elsewhere in college football, it was the real
housewives of college football. In the SEC, there are several
coaching openings, so there's going to be musical chairs going on.
Florida is getting rid of their coach, LSU already got
rid of their coach mid season, and over at Ole
Miss is a man named Lane Kiffin who has been
(23:13):
a head coach several places, and he's been at ole
Miss for about four or five years and done quite well.
And they have an eleven and one season and they're
about to go to the college football playoffs and have
a shot at the national championship.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
But Lane Kiffin's looking around. He's like, where looking where
could I land? Could I land somewhere else for more money?
And so what he does is leave everybody in the
hook for a month covering the Lane Kiffin will he
won't his story, Yeah, while LSU and Florida woo him,
and over Thanksgiving weekend after ole Miss beats it in
(23:45):
state rival Mississippi State, he's like, I'll give you guys
an answer. I'll give you guys an answer, you know,
in a day.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
And then again once again, everybody's on the hook following
the Lane kiffn story. At one point it escalates because
a podcaster about Miss football calls Lane Kiffin a hoe.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
He says, well, he says, no, I should not say that.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Exactly what he did was expertly deploy a ludicrous lyric
learne of Lane Kiffen because he said, you can't make
a hoe into a housewife. Yea referring to the fact
that Lane Kiffin likes to jump around and that perhaps
he would was never meant to be a committed head
coach at all Miss Cold. So Lane Kiffin gets mad
about this, I think because it hit a little close
(24:28):
to home, confronts the podcaster in person at the in
state rivalry game, at which point the podcaster looked, frankly
pretty scared. I would have defended myself and been like, like,
my point is valid. You're gonna leave right.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
My point is valid.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Not all podcasters are the same. Let's just talk about that.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Nonetheless, because there was a ludicrous lyric involved and sec football.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I can't action. Yeah, this story is made for Mary Catherine.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
And Kiffin, it must be said, has left the NFL
Oakland Raiders' head coaching job in a fuss where the
owner called him a liar and that he was disrespecting
the institution. And he was like, no, I didn't do
anything wrong. They're like, now you're fired, and an arbitrator
came in was like, yeah, he definitely did something wrong.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
He's fired. Son, he's out. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
He goes to the Tennessee Volunteers for one season before
he jumps once again to something better to usc and
southern California. He works there for a couple of years,
and then jumps over I believe, to Alabama at that point,
where he works for two seasons, and then Saban lets
him go before a championship game because he's so much
(25:39):
drama and he took.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yet another job, damn, and you gotta go.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And so this time around, by the way, when he
left Tennessee, there were riots at Racio, Tennessee because people
were so angry. So this time around, the day he's
supposed to make the decision, he pushes it off like
three times. He's making negotiations like I should be able
to coach through the championship, which makes no sense because
then you get to take players and coaches and like
(26:05):
wheedle them and get them lured over to your new
place with you, which is a conference, right.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I can't wait to see where this goes.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
And then he takes the LSU job, gets kicked out
on his butt. LSU sends a private plane to come
pick him up at the airport, and the ole Miss
fans are out there given middle fingers and booze watching
him leave with part of the coaching staff while his
players are back in the athletic department, Like, what is
(26:32):
happening to us? So the hoe.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Goes to Lsu.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Wow, Mary Catherine using the home word.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And my favorite Real Housewives detail is that they put
his clothes on the street outside his house.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
What are you gonna do in Oxford? MISSOSII? It was
a lot, Carol. I do think I.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Haven't heard about any of this, like not even in passing,
not even I had none of it.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Well, now you know, now I know if Lane Kiffin
comes up, And by the way, I do think this
ludicrous lyric is going to follow him his entire career.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Like he's also famous for like covorting with.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Mid twenties co eds and such, so he's like on
many levels, one might say the analogy is working anyway, I.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Wish you were Lane Kiffen.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, oh, poor Lane in four years Lsu, just like,
remember who you hired, because.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
At the end of the day, can't make a whole housewife.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I mean, honestly, the thing that I noticed during this
is like he's a little trumpy in that he is
raw talent, and he's clearly magnetic, and he makes these
programs work for short periods of time, and he is
posting through it.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Like you can't control that man. He is going to
do what Lane's gonna do.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
So all right, where the story do we Where do
we watch this?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Is it some Bravo or you gotta put you got
to pull up the live stream of the Oxford, Mississippi
Airport because that.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Was I think I'm going to have to do that
right after this recording. But Lank Kiffin, here you are
on Normally we don't cover a lot of inside drama
of college sports, but this was a good one. Thank
you for sharing drama all the time. Yeah, I love it.
I mean I think we should do more, you know,
Desperate Housewives it comes to sports moments on the show.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
We should, I should make a trailer should.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
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