August 11, 2026 • 34 mins
Karol Markowicz is joined by comedian, commentator, and Heritage Media Fellow Tim Young for a wide-ranging conversation about the 2026 midterms, the Democratic Party’s progressive turn, AOC’s political future, and the latest controversy engulfing the WNBA.
Karol and Tim begin with the upcoming midterm elections and whether Republicans can hold both the House and Senate despite concerns about the GOP’s political strategy. They also examine candidates including Francesca Hong and the growing influence of democratic socialist politics on the Democratic Party. Tim predicts Republicans can narrowly retain control, arguing that some of the left’s more extreme candidates could ultimately work to the GOP’s advantage.
The conversation then turns to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and 2028, including speculation about a potential presidential campaign and the political conversation surrounding AOC’s decision to publicly document freezing her eggs.
Plus, Karol and Tim tackle the latest WNBA controversy after Sophie Cunningham was clotheslined during a game, as well as former NBA players Enes Kanter Freedom and Royce White declaring for the 2027 WNBA Draft. Could their stunt force the league into a legal and political battle over how it defines who is eligible to play in women’s basketball?
Also discussed: AOC and the legacy of “woke” politics, the conservative movement’s culture-war strategy, Hassan Piker’s influence on Democratic politics, Caitlin Clark, Sophie Cunningham, women’s sports, and what both parties face heading toward the 2026 midterms.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hello, and welcome back to normally the show with normalist takes,
but when your news gets weird. I'm Carol Markowitz. Mary
Catherine ham Is on vacation, and my guest co host
today is Tim Young. Tim is a Heritage Media fellow
Dallas Express Media editor, a comedian, a host, a speaker,
an author, and he has this excellent X account. Tim
(00:27):
runs his mouth because he really does. Hi, Tim, so
nice to have you on.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Thanks for having me here. It's very exciting. You know,
I'm not quite Mary Catherine Hamm, but I'll do my best.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
You're not. Nobody is, but you know I had full
faith in you and that's why I asked you to
be on today. We're going to cover some news today.
We're going to start with the midterms. As we're recording this,
the day of this airing will be August eleventh, and
there'll be a few interesting races coming up, including in
the Minnesota Senate where Angie Craig, who's you know, they
(00:59):
say moderate House Democrat whatever, is facing Peggy Flanagan, who
is a progressive for the Democratic nomination to replace retiring
Senator Tina Smith. Also in that part of the world,
Francesca Hong is running in a four way Democratic contest
against Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley for governor, and she's
(01:21):
been kind of all over the news. She's been all
the air in the room, really, and it's just where
the Democrats are headed, right, They're they're having their very
communist moment.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, these are these are really weird, kind of youngish
looking candidates to I do give them credit for putting
up younger looking people and more theater kids than than
the Republicans. You know, I'd like to see younger faces
from the Republican side that aren't crazy, obviously, right, But
Hong and the Democrats are really it's really interesting. You know,
I've never heard of a candidate that wants to ban Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I actually fully called this in twenty twenty, which wasn't
an impossible thing to do. That Thanksgiving was going to
have to be on the chopping block in the next
few years, because that's where they were going, right. I Mean,
we'll get into it in the next segment. But when
AOC's talking about Wok one was crazy, that's what Wok
one was. They were heading in the direction of we
really can't have holidays like Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, but again, and I don't want to jump into
the next topic, but it's sort of like, look at
the left hand, and the right hand's going to keep
doing the same thing it's been doing the entire time.
When you take a look at what Abigail Spamberger did
the moment, literally the moment. They didn't even take a
break after she got elected in Virginia. They pretend to
be moderate, they lie to your face about what they'll
do policy wise, and as soon as Democrats get in,
they will do everything they can do to go as
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far left as possible and then maintain that power for
as long as possible.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Right. And I think that the fact that they're running these,
like you said, photogenic young people, it's very smart, obviously,
but it's baffling to me that the Democratic Party is
allowing this to go on. These people are openly saying
we're going to overthrow the Democratic Party. It won't exist anymore.
It'll be the DSA. And that seems to be okay, because, oh,
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these people have the energy and we need to lean
into that.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Well, when you're looking at a party that I believe
is still seventeen million dollars in the whole or something
like that. Right now, they don't have much choice. Maybe
they can't afford like real consultants or real campaigns anymore.
So they're they're dealing with theater kids who lived at
home and never had to work a day in their lives.
That's that's what they've been reduced to due to a
lack of budget.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
But like Chuck Schumer's been around the block. He knows
what's going on here. How does he not care?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Okay, that's a tough one. You know, maybe it's how
old is he now?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Eight hundred and five?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, yeah, old? And maybe he just doesn't care anymore.
You take a look at these guys, at some point,
it probably just becomes I mean, not that politics isn't
already a selfish game. You know, God blessed the few
people who are altruistic, but at some point, maybe they
just stop caring and that you know, he's he's farting
on the floor of the Senate now. He literally is
just kind of you know, he's not recognized and people
(04:00):
boo him when he goes out in New York. I
think he's just going along to get along. And at
some point, you know, this has been your career for
forty years, fifty years, you just stop caring.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, maybe maybe that's it, or maybe he's been a
communist all along also, and his you know, kind of
covered it up a little bit. But he's had moments
where he said things that I considered far far left,
like where he said every single illegal immigrant needs a
path citizenship. I mean that was a few just a
few years ago. So he's not like, it's not like
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they're moderates, right, they were always leftists, but like this
new leftism is going to overtake them and get rid
of them completely. And I don't know how they're standing
for it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Is that communist to give everybody a path to citizenship
acrosses the border or is that them just wanting to
have the last large potential voting block lockdown for themselves.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I mean both, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, if you need
to have this new base of people who are voting
for you and also paying into all your programs because
your people aren't having kids, it's.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
You know, it's a little bit from column An, a
little bit from columb.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, just a touch of ever, just a sprinkle of everything.
No big deal.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, what's your prediction, what do you think happens in
the midterms. Do Republicans hold anything right now? I think
the polling has the House as a Democratic flip and
the Senate as a Republican hold. Do you think that's
how it shakes out.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I think Republicans win everything in spite of themselves. You know,
they can't pass to say that. Yeah, I think they
stumble into it. I think it's going to be a
small margin again, but I think it's a stumble into it.
And I have a couple of friends who run these
kind of like wargames politically to see what's going to happen.
And by friends, I mean large organizations. They work for
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these big works. And the way it's shaken out right now,
it's literally Republicans win in spite of themselves. I really
do not look forward to the headache that we get
in the House if Democrats take it. But I think
it's going to be a narrow one and Republicans taken it.
And it's because of these extreme candidates that are moving forward.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Interesting, okay, because I'm bracing for the worst possible scenario.
It's what the thing is is that Trump's approval is
so hard to nail down. He has right now. You know,
the headlines are all saying the lowest approval ever. But
the thing about Trump is that I don't trust any
numbers when it comes to him specifically. I'm you know,
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I'm not a polling denier or whatever we're called these days,
but Trump just never polls correctly. People won't admit to
a polster on the phone that they support Donald Trump,
and that's been the case the entire time he's been around.
So I don't know what to think when these polls
have him at thirty five percent approval sixty two percent disapproval.
(06:54):
Maybe maybe that's possible, but I'm just not sure.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I mean, I don't think that Trump matters as much
when you take a look at how hated Congress is.
What's what's Congress's current approval rating. It usually floats around twelve, right,
It's like really low. But yet the locally, the same
people keep getting re elected. So ultimately, I don't think
Trump's approval means anything. Maybe a little bit, But as
far as these local races go, and being a midterm election,
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it's all up to the candidates and who's door knocking
enough and getting out in the in the public.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
The ground game. You say, yeah, that sounds right. I
didn't expect optimism from you, but I like to see it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I don't have optimism. I think this is I think.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Republicans keeping the house in Senate is pretty optimistic.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But I'm at the same time saying they suck. They
like they're not they deserve to win. They yeah, I mean,
we're not communists. They don't deserve to win, but they're
gonna stumble to a victory. It's like one of those
things you go, oh, they'll learn nothing from this. It's
it's sort of like all of the consultant class and
all of the Republicans who took credit for Trump winning
the first time. It's like, you guys did nothing like
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this guy like came in and he was just so
different that he got a populist movement behind him in
one This is one of those like, I don't know,
not to be repetitive here. They just don't deserve it,
but they're going to do it.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
You know, I hear you, And yet I still fear
this communist future and whatever. Like a squishy Republican who
sucks is still a million times better than you know,
a Hong who wants no Thanksgiving and no police and
no prisons and all the rest of the stuff that
comes with their insane platform. And so if it's going
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to have to be Republicans who suck, that's who it is.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, that's that's where we are, which is not a
good place to be.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Well, we're going to take a short break and come
right back with another segment of Normally, where we will
get into all the crazy things these people believe.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Be right back.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
We are back on Normally, where Tim Young is guest
co hosting for Mary Catherine Ham who's on vacation. And
Tim is doing a great job right now. I hope
you're all enjoying his amazing insights. I am so.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I can't believe you have the podcast IP normally. I
don't know how did you get that?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I don't know. I don't even know what an IP podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Intellectual property having a podcast called normally, that's wild to me.
When I go to name something, I have to have
eighty five names. My attorneys are like, you now now
that the first seven seven words of that have ever
already been used by eighty five different products, So you
got it. That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It's funny because we tried for some other variations on normal,
and they were unavailable but held by people who barely
use it, and that really frustrates me.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Now, if your name was Ali, see, that would be
like a whole thing there. You could be Norman Ali Nale.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Right, an ally of an ally of the norm?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Is that what it is?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
No, it's not, but it could be, right, it should.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Be, because you really aren't, like as as far as
all these I'm just I'm just gonna go ahead and
take every podcast for a second, as far as all
these other crazy people out there, you really are an
ally of the norm and a very logical saying and
intelligent person. It makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Thank you, Thank you. That's what we go for here
on Normally. We try to be normal people, doing normal
things and saying normal things and believing normal things and
pointing out when things are abnormal. Yeah, so what's abnormal?
Francesca Hong has old tweets calling for abolishing prisons and
the police, and apparently we shouldn't be concerned with any
(10:43):
of that because look, it was a crazy time, a crazy,
crazy time. Here's AOC on this week defending this standing.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Is that is that Francesca Hong has made clear her
presence dances.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
To her life.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
She's moved away from right.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
She's moved away from it. And I have a local
city councilman that has this saying woke one was crazy, crazy.
She wants to move away from whatever the insane stuff
was from twenty twenty and it was insane and they
said so many crazy things and they did so many
(11:23):
crazy things, and now this like, haha, we were just
kind of kidding about it. I don't buy it. First
of all, I think that they're just trying to win
an election. They haven't moved away from anything. But second,
imagine having a media where they were asked like, what
specifically do you not believe anymore? What specifically are you
(11:44):
sorry for saying and believing and pushing on the rest
of us. But obviously, Tim, we don't have that kind
of media.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah. Well, also, they haven't changed any opinions whatsoever. They're
just trying to label it differently. And at least now
she's saying that woke was a thing because for a
while and I don't check this using AI she claimed
for a long time AOC that the term woke was
created by the right, and then it was used to
weaponize and make the left look bad. So at least
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she's saying that woke is real this time. But there
is nothing accurate about these people. Again, this is Abigail Spamberger.
You got to take a look at what happened in Virginia.
They are literally going to lie to you. They're going
to say that this isn't their ideas, this isn't what
they want to stand for, and then they'll go right
into office and do exactly what they just lied about.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Right, So, Mary Katherine Ham is from Virginia. We've covered
Abigail Spamberger lying her way into office a lot on here,
pretending to be a moderate and running as a moderate
but actually governing as a leftist. AOC and CO can't
really do that. They can't run as moderates. They can
only walk back their most fringy positions, and I don't
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really think they have. Again, if we had a media
that asked questions, we could ask what do you think
of biological boys and girls' sports? What do you think
of Christopher Columbus statute is? What do you think of
all the things that we were forced to say were
bad in the early twenty twenties. I mean, not we
me and you, but we larger people who had to
put black squares on their social media and did really
(13:13):
insane stuff like that. What about all that? What about
all the things that you made people walk the line
and believe? What about cancel culture? That apparently cancel culture
is something that they no longer believe in or they
actually kind of portray it as something we did, something
that the right foisted on them, and it's not exactly
how I remember it.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah. Also, I mean they also tried to put forward
these like very white, like masculine looking guys like Grand
Platner that we learned to know too much about actual Nazis.
They were like, hey, oh, our electorate to love that.
You know, I blame in all of this. You make
a very good point about the media not pushing back.
(13:54):
What has the right done when you have all these
large organizations? Hope, boy, you're going to get myself in trouble,
These large organizations that are out there that collect millions
of dollars to change our culture, and everything has shifted
left with basically nothing moving right other than what Trump
has done just kind of like on his own really
with his team. You take a look at all the
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money that's getting sunk in by donors in these organizations
and all these people who are supposed to be moving
the needle back, and nothing has moved back to the
right except when the left pretends they're that they are.
And so for me watching this cultural shift, we're not
looking at the fifty thousand foot And I know you're
because you're an ally of the norm. You take a
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look at this and you can kind of see it
for the bigger picture. I don't think a lot of
people are realizing how much money and how much grift.
And when we say grift, I'm not talking about individuals
who are, like you know, spreading conspiracy theories on our
side and doing things. I'm talking about grift of organizations
that claim that they've been moving this needle with million
dollar paid CEOs that are doing nothing and have done
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nothing except collect money and do a little a dance
for donors for years. The right. Again, like I said earlier,
I think we win the house back in spite of ourselves.
But it's a big in spite of ourselves, because there's
so much money just going to nowhere and just funding
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like lavish lifestyles of small people who haven't shifted out
and still claimed victory when they have nothing to do
with victories. And we're losing the culture in a large
part because of the faith that's being put in and
the money that's being put in the wrong direction.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
So I agree with you on a lot of that,
but I feel like we have had some wins. I
think that there are some amazing groups doing excellent things.
Like a lot of the trand stuff has been beaten back.
And not that long ago you had to use these
preferred pronouns, and again not conservative movement people, we didn't
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have to, but the larger segment of the population was
forced into believing something that could not possibly be true,
that you can change your gender and you could become,
you know, a boy if you're actually a girl, or
vice versa, and a lot of that has now been
beaten back. Another thing is I'm on board of defending education,
this group that I think is just excellent, and I
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think Nicky Neely just does phenomenal work suing school districts
and doing all this kind of stuff that I think
we as a conservative movement want. So there are groups.
I mean, you know, I don't want to be the
optimist here, because I don't feel that optimistic right now.
But there's some movement on the right culturally. It's we
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let things go so bad for so long that it's
not going to be an overnight shift.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I like defending it too. I got Sarah partial Perry
over there's phenomenal. She's an incredible attorney that works over there.
But now look the trans stuff and the keeping men
out of women's sports. That ends once we lose the
White House, or if we lose the White House, that
ends a meeting, even though it's a issue. Yeah, it
doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I mean, look, neither side
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cares about eighty twenty issues, or else we'd have a
Save America Act past. But no, this is one of
those things. When Trump won the White House back or
the culture shifted just because they knew that the I
think the money was out there when you take a
look at Hollywood and music and things like that, and
they wanted to capture that conservative audience where they could
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we'll flip back extreme left, if not farther left once
the White House is gone.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I don't know. I hear you also that the fact
that they don't care when something is an eighty twenty
issue is a wild problem because how are you running
on things that are not popular and yet and winning anyway? Right,
it just doesn't matter that much.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, no, the left again, don't There are stop gaps
in place for right now, but best believe like executive
orders and things. I mean, and yes, there have been
some ships in school boards and things like that, but
there's so much that you know, defending ed can't do
it all. That's the problem, and you have to take
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the bigger stuff. There's a lot of local stuff that's
been lost along the way, and just there's so much
like misinformation from the left because they still control all
of the local media too. I mean, we aren't seeing
the bigger picture here and we aren't expanding at the
rate that needs to happen to fix the problems in
the country. And it's scary and it should be Sorry
I started positive, you know it positive way, No, this
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is like the reality of the situation is I'm taking
a look at everything that's happening, and you know now
and I'm becoming an old guy in politics, like nothing's fixed.
I once sat down with what's the name of I'm
not even gonna try to remember somebody's name. But I
sat down. I was the director of marketing for Seapack
and every year they say, you know, Seapack's audience grows
and grows growth, and I forget. Oh, it's the head
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of the Leadership Institute. What's his name? I was for
his name? Shame on me.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Great, well that also he is a good guy.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, been around forever. And I sat down and I
told him, you know, all the numbers are up this year,
and he goes, yeah, you know, if they told the
true numbers every year and they grew like they did,
the entire world would be covered in conservatives. But here
we are.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Wow that ye yeah yeah, and I laugh.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And that was you know, you know, twelve years ago,
eleven years ago, when it was the director of marketing
at SEAPEC. Yeah, And I look at it now and
I look back and I go, yeah, yeah, no, that's
where this has been. It is like, you know, we
do this dance for donors and we don't like actually
dig in into the work. And that's why, by the way,
Defending Again is a newer organization. We wouldn't need a
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Defending ed if the other organizations set up been around forever,
had done their job.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, But then you look at the left and they
have like a Hassan Piker that they're all going to
try to be on his show for the twenty twenty
eight race. Every presidential candidate on the Democratic side is
going to try to get on Hassan Piker show. And
yet he says things like the US deserved nine to eleven.
He talks about, you know, bringing in more immigrants to
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take white girls and all of this really crazy crazy stuff.
And then you have we're going to play a clip
of Abdul al said saying that this is all out
of context.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Ana gotcha to sit here and play gotcha politics with
a dumb thing somebody said out of context that they
just allowed themselves to say, Oh, well, what does that
mean about what you think? I want to be held
accountable for what I say and what I do, rather
than this idea that we were so stuck in cancel
culture that all of us agreed was a bad idea
back in twenty twenty, but we seem to want to
bring back.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Did all of us agree on that? I don't remember
them agreeing on that. I remember them calling it consequence culture.
I remember them absolutely canceling people for things that their
friend or colleague or whatever said because they didn't condemn
that enough. And so I hear you when you're like
down on the right. God, I have a long list
of things that I wish the right did differently or
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better or effectively. But like, this is what we're up against.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Liars and people who, by the way, if I said
anything in this in the reverse of what Hassan Piker says,
like even in the remote ballpark, our side would turn
on me immediately and I'd be blackbald everywhere.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Right, it doesn't think pieces about how we need to
get rid of Tim Young and never hear from him again.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, yeah, And and they that is the scariest part
of the left right now, is that how much he
talks about literally killing his political opponents and people who
don't agree with him. You know, I don't know where
this goes. I like people have to realize that they're
being lied to on the left. And I think there
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are a lot of sane Democrats if you take a
look at that primary that abdull whatever was it? Al Yeah, yeah,
I'm just so I'm so over it at this point,
Like they're all the same. He barely edged out in
the primary there, and that that gives me hope that
there is you know, hundreds of thousands of people, maybe
millions of people in this country or on the left,
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that still have their head screwed on straight. This is
it's concerning, and like you know, and again like when
I take a look at the bigger picture, and not
to keep beating a strum, but like I look at
the bigger picture, and like we're up against there aren't
many hills left to die on in our country. You know,
we did narrowly avoid having the government take our children away,
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but California hasn't. But this is what do we need
to do to wake everybody up? And I just hope
And again, like I said, like local media is coming
into play here because they're also run by leftists, and
we're asleep at the wheel. It's sort of like how
we kind of rush limbaughs at this back in the day.
Was you know, we're at sleep at the wheel with
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like local schools there we are. Yeah, yeah, this is
just getting people to ask questions, getting people to push back.
It's just not there, and I want it to be
there more than what it is. And I just hope
again that people are awake enough and they see this
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and that there are enough common sense Democrats out there.
But sorry, I'm kind of like an a spiral here
of thoughts because it's what's on. It's a bad scary place.
I'm just like, I'm just looking at it. It's a
bad scary place, and nobody's coming to save us. It's
gonna be up to your listeners. It's gonna be up
to people like you and and again like normal, normal
people and folks who have just started new orgs and
stuff like that to get it figured out.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Gavin Newsom is calling himself an established insurgent because you know,
how could he be an insurgent at this point. He's
been in government for years and years. You know, I
on twenty twenty eight. Do you think AOC runs and
you think it's happening. So she had this weird little
(23:56):
video out this weekend where she gave herself a shot
in her stomach on camera and said that she was
freezing her eggs and it's a process that has a
very questionable success rate. She's in her late thirties already.
I believe she's thirty six years old. What the hell
is she doing?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
She's had a fiance for five years now, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Let me tell you, I don't think that's a relationship
that's working out.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. Again, if you if you want
to be a mother, be a mother, like you know
every how many how many pregnant congressmen have we had
so far? I know Apple's been one, and Na Pauline
a Luna I call her and it wasn't. Mayra Flora's
also pregnant at one point. I'm trying to think of
all those limits.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
There's been some, but has there been any that had
an eye on the White House?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Is the question?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
That's what people think she's waiting for, right, Like what
what could it be? And Mary Catherine Ham texted me
this morning that she's sad to miss the AOC news
cycle while she's away, and she said, I tell AOC
exactly what I'd tell a friend. If you've been engaged
four years, something is already wrong. If you're not sure
if you want kids by now, you either don't want
kids or don't want this man, or both.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I say, it's two years. I tossed a woman out
of my house after two and a half we were engaged.
There you go well, we.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Can explore that on another.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
But no, it's right after after I think the the
limit on engagements two years. There's obviously something that's going
on there. I always thought that they weren't married because
they don't have to public publicly disclose their money if
they aren't married. I believe that's a thing. So you know,
it's married couples, so you know the pelosis, you know
what they're doing together. But you know AOC's partner, as
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long as they aren't legally married, they can sneak a
lot of money to him. I believe that is the
scheme there. But no, it's it's really sad, and I
don't understand. I don't know why she did that video
other than for some sort of strange sympathy maybe with
like mothers or something, or I don't belie. Yeah, it
doesn't make it right.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
So conservatives seem a little split on the whole thing.
A lot of people were like, this is ridiculous. You're
already of an age where you're heading towards where you're
not going to be able to do this naturally, and
freezing your eggs at this point it doesn't give you
that great a shot. But Katie Miller, wife of Stephen Miller,
said she tweeted good for her for wanting to be
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a mother and preserving the ability to do so. If
she inspires other women to want to become mothers, awesome,
we need more babies now. I'm all on board with
more babies. But is that what she's doing or is
she inspiring women to wait indefinitely because it's totally fine
and has no drawbacks to freeze eggs, which is not true.
And she didn't just quietly do this. She posted herself
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giving herself the shot to social media made it seem
like no big deal. She could have a baby whenever
she wants. That's not really how it goes.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I think I think Katie Miller's right about the whole
thing about like or sorry, You're right about having the
child anytime she wants. Katie Miller, I don't understand. Stop
playing nice. I'm playing nice with these people who clearly
hate you. I mean, they've said everything terrible under the
sun about Steven Miller, who I think is a brilliant guy. Yeah,
and like for Katie Miller to step up, like again,
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this is like the stupid burrito argument that happened last week,
like twenty dollars burritos, blah blah blah. I don't care,
you know, if it's stage to divide the right congratulations,
they fell for it again. There is an uninformed influencer
class on our side that just will take up any
talking point that comes along and fight back and forth
and like again, like, I have no problems with Katie Miller,
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but like, come on, be smarter than this. You know
you're out there defending AOC against Republicans. Just how about
don't say anything? How about don't look like there's division,
like if you disagree with what Republicans are out saying,
just like on this one, just like, don't take her side,
don't give them what they want. That's what she wants
from this, all.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Right, AOC. Look, I on twenty twenty eight will see
where she ends up with a baby or not. A
baby would actually soften her a lot for twenty twenty eight.
Maybe she should her as a political prop at least.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I have a lot of insulting things that I could
say here about having a baby with her. But look,
I know that I've shopped at the same Whole Foods
that she. I don't know if she still shops by
herself grocery shops, but we used to grocery shop like
at the same time at the Whole Foods on Capitol Hill.
And when you look into her eyes, there are just
is nothing there, man, when you meet her in person.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, I believe it. All right, We're going to take
a short break and come right back with one more
segment of Normally. We are back on Normally, where my
guest's co host today filling in for Mary Catherine Ham
is Tim Young. Tim is awesome and you should follow
his ex account. Tim runs his mouth. He's doing a
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really wonderful job hanging in here for MK. And I
don't know. I mean, I feel like he's optimistic sometimes pessimistic.
Sometimes he's really living the normally ethos here.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I'm an ally of the norm which is what the
show's all about.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
So what's normal is not happening at the WNBA. There's
so much news about it. My kids are like, is
this a giant sport? Why are you guys talking about
it so much? But there's so much going on, most
recently Sophie Cunningham, who publicly said that biological boys shouldn't
play in girls sports and is now public enemy number one.
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She got clotheslined by Dejane Carrington, who was ejected from
the game and tweeted white privilege from the locker room.
I didn't think it was white privilege. I thought it
was assault. But okay, what the hell's going on in
this league?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Well, here's the truth is, more people will see videos
of Sophie Cunningham getting clotheslined or pointing than we'll watch
any single game, including playoffs, of the WNBA this year.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Your kids are right right, unless, unless, unless Clay Travis
gets his way and gets to have a Nashville Balls
team with all all trans players. That would make it
musty TV.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
It would be super fun. But and you know, I
debate whether or not Britney Grinder is a man or not.
That deep voice is very odd to me. And the
video of her with no shirt on, I don't know
if you've seen that before. The yeah, it's it's very
questionable there. But oh, I wanted to be called pops
with her child wants your child to call her pops.
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That's another hut thing. So they may already have trans
people in their league. That being said, I'm tired of
the WNBA. I think if they were smart, they would
have leaned into Caitlin Clark and now Sophie kind of cans.
But the problem is they're run by leftists. And so
you have two reasonably attractive white women, one who is
the best female basketball player of all time, the other
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who created a meme that's bigger than the league in
one second and sells out shoes like crazy. And you
have a league of jealous, angry, ugly lesbians who just
want to beat them up because literally it's just jealousy
and hatred. When you know, if this, if they realized
who Caitlin Clark and who Sophie Cunningham could be, they'd
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lean into it, sell more tickets and be friendly. But
the tickets that they're selling, and I debated this with
a Barshaol sports woman recently, you know they're like, oh,
it sells out, Brooklyn sells out. I'm like, yeah, wokies
are buying tickets to act out for this. When I
went to see the Black Panther movie when it first
came out from Marvel, it was full of like weird,
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smelly theater kids that went to go see it in Washington,
d C. Because they felt it was their job to
go do it. That's their big woke part. And right now,
the big woke part is for these people to show
up and buy, you know, one hundred dollars tickets to
go watch crappy basketball for a couple of hours and
then take selfies and say they did it. By the way,
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big big props to you know, the little girls that
got yelled at by the Seattle coach for standing up
for girls and stuff. Everybody who's been getting called out
for this, they've been wearing xxxy athletic gear stuff. I
think it's been reasonable stunts by a good company, by
the way, xxxy, great great athletic company that stands up
for women in sports. But total great stunts that have
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been working.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I mean, so nis Kant Freedom and Royce White are
two former NBA players who have declared for the twenty
twenty seven w NBA Draft. And the thing is that
the WNBA has to take this somewhat seriously. I mean,
is it a stunt. Of course it's a stunt, but
they have to take it somewhere seriously. Wesleyang talks about
this on x He says the meeting is happening. The
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WNBA commissioner said that league is meeting in New York
City because under New York City law, where the league
is headquartered, these men really can't sue if they are excluded.
If these exact same men had grown their hair out
and begun demanding to be called women two years ago,
every transactivist and ally attacking them today would be cheiring
them on the law makes no distinction. They may actually
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you get to play.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I would love to see that.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Alternative is the w NBA saying they are not women,
and then they'll have to define what a woman is,
and then we're in a brand new place.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I wouldn't mind us Cantor Freedom and Royce White suing
the heck out of these people and taking that money
and putting it towards some sort of charity that helps
girls and female athletes. I think that would be awesome,
and I think that's actually where this ends up. I
think that they can't land on. I highly doubt that
this league will be able to land on defining what
a woman is for fear that, you know, they'd have
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to get rid of Britney Grinder. I'm telling you again,
Britney Griner, and I wouldn't know that name had it
not been for getting arrested in Russia and US trading
the what was it, the Harbinger of death or something
like that, whatever it was, back for her. But no,
I really look forward to them standing the ground, both
both sides standing the ground, and then Enus Kanter and
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Royce White suing the hell out of the WNBA, getting
a bunch of money and giving it to female charities.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Love it. I hope that's what ends up happening. He
is Tim Young, Follow him on, Tim runs his mouth,
check out his work. He's so great. Thank you so
much for joining us, Tim, We loved having you, and
thank you for joining us on Normally. Normally airs Tuesdays
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Get in touch with us at normallythepod at gmail dot com.
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Thanks for listening, and when things get weird, act normally
Hello, and welcome back to normally the show with normalist takes,
but when your news gets weird. I'm Carol Markowitz. Mary
Catherine ham Is on vacation, and my guest co host
today is Tim Young. Tim is a Heritage Media fellow
Dallas Express Media editor, a comedian, a host, a speaker,
an author, and he has this excellent X account. Tim
(00:27):
runs his mouth because he really does. Hi, Tim, so
nice to have you on.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Thanks for having me here. It's very exciting. You know,
I'm not quite Mary Catherine Hamm, but I'll do my best.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
You're not. Nobody is, but you know I had full
faith in you and that's why I asked you to
be on today. We're going to cover some news today.
We're going to start with the midterms. As we're recording this,
the day of this airing will be August eleventh, and
there'll be a few interesting races coming up, including in
the Minnesota Senate where Angie Craig, who's you know, they
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say moderate House Democrat whatever, is facing Peggy Flanagan, who
is a progressive for the Democratic nomination to replace retiring
Senator Tina Smith. Also in that part of the world,
Francesca Hong is running in a four way Democratic contest
against Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley for governor, and she's
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been kind of all over the news. She's been all
the air in the room, really, and it's just where
the Democrats are headed, right, They're they're having their very
communist moment.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, these are these are really weird, kind of youngish
looking candidates to I do give them credit for putting
up younger looking people and more theater kids than than
the Republicans. You know, I'd like to see younger faces
from the Republican side that aren't crazy, obviously, right, But
Hong and the Democrats are really it's really interesting. You know,
I've never heard of a candidate that wants to ban Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I actually fully called this in twenty twenty, which wasn't
an impossible thing to do. That Thanksgiving was going to
have to be on the chopping block in the next
few years, because that's where they were going, right. I Mean,
we'll get into it in the next segment. But when
AOC's talking about Wok one was crazy, that's what Wok
one was. They were heading in the direction of we
really can't have holidays like Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, but again, and I don't want to jump into
the next topic, but it's sort of like, look at
the left hand, and the right hand's going to keep
doing the same thing it's been doing the entire time.
When you take a look at what Abigail Spamberger did
the moment, literally the moment. They didn't even take a
break after she got elected in Virginia. They pretend to
be moderate, they lie to your face about what they'll
do policy wise, and as soon as Democrats get in,
they will do everything they can do to go as
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far left as possible and then maintain that power for
as long as possible.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Right. And I think that the fact that they're running these,
like you said, photogenic young people, it's very smart, obviously,
but it's baffling to me that the Democratic Party is
allowing this to go on. These people are openly saying
we're going to overthrow the Democratic Party. It won't exist anymore.
It'll be the DSA. And that seems to be okay, because, oh,
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these people have the energy and we need to lean
into that.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Well, when you're looking at a party that I believe
is still seventeen million dollars in the whole or something
like that. Right now, they don't have much choice. Maybe
they can't afford like real consultants or real campaigns anymore.
So they're they're dealing with theater kids who lived at
home and never had to work a day in their lives.
That's that's what they've been reduced to due to a
lack of budget.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
But like Chuck Schumer's been around the block. He knows
what's going on here. How does he not care?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Okay, that's a tough one. You know, maybe it's how
old is he now?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Eight hundred and five?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, yeah, old? And maybe he just doesn't care anymore.
You take a look at these guys, at some point,
it probably just becomes I mean, not that politics isn't
already a selfish game. You know, God blessed the few
people who are altruistic, but at some point, maybe they
just stop caring and that you know, he's he's farting
on the floor of the Senate now. He literally is
just kind of you know, he's not recognized and people
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boo him when he goes out in New York. I
think he's just going along to get along. And at
some point, you know, this has been your career for
forty years, fifty years, you just stop caring.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, maybe maybe that's it, or maybe he's been a
communist all along also, and his you know, kind of
covered it up a little bit. But he's had moments
where he said things that I considered far far left,
like where he said every single illegal immigrant needs a
path citizenship. I mean that was a few just a
few years ago. So he's not like, it's not like
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they're moderates, right, they were always leftists, but like this
new leftism is going to overtake them and get rid
of them completely. And I don't know how they're standing
for it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Is that communist to give everybody a path to citizenship
acrosses the border or is that them just wanting to
have the last large potential voting block lockdown for themselves.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I mean both, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, if you need
to have this new base of people who are voting
for you and also paying into all your programs because
your people aren't having kids, it's.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
You know, it's a little bit from column An, a
little bit from columb.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, just a touch of ever, just a sprinkle of everything.
No big deal.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, what's your prediction, what do you think happens in
the midterms. Do Republicans hold anything right now? I think
the polling has the House as a Democratic flip and
the Senate as a Republican hold. Do you think that's
how it shakes out.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I think Republicans win everything in spite of themselves. You know,
they can't pass to say that. Yeah, I think they
stumble into it. I think it's going to be a
small margin again, but I think it's a stumble into it.
And I have a couple of friends who run these
kind of like wargames politically to see what's going to happen.
And by friends, I mean large organizations. They work for
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these big works. And the way it's shaken out right now,
it's literally Republicans win in spite of themselves. I really
do not look forward to the headache that we get
in the House if Democrats take it. But I think
it's going to be a narrow one and Republicans taken it.
And it's because of these extreme candidates that are moving forward.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Interesting, okay, because I'm bracing for the worst possible scenario.
It's what the thing is is that Trump's approval is
so hard to nail down. He has right now. You know,
the headlines are all saying the lowest approval ever. But
the thing about Trump is that I don't trust any
numbers when it comes to him specifically. I'm you know,
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I'm not a polling denier or whatever we're called these days,
but Trump just never polls correctly. People won't admit to
a polster on the phone that they support Donald Trump,
and that's been the case the entire time he's been around.
So I don't know what to think when these polls
have him at thirty five percent approval sixty two percent disapproval.
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Maybe maybe that's possible, but I'm just not sure.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I mean, I don't think that Trump matters as much
when you take a look at how hated Congress is.
What's what's Congress's current approval rating. It usually floats around twelve, right,
It's like really low. But yet the locally, the same
people keep getting re elected. So ultimately, I don't think
Trump's approval means anything. Maybe a little bit, But as
far as these local races go, and being a midterm election,
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it's all up to the candidates and who's door knocking
enough and getting out in the in the public.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
The ground game. You say, yeah, that sounds right. I
didn't expect optimism from you, but I like to see it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I don't have optimism. I think this is I think.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Republicans keeping the house in Senate is pretty optimistic.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But I'm at the same time saying they suck. They
like they're not they deserve to win. They yeah, I mean,
we're not communists. They don't deserve to win, but they're
gonna stumble to a victory. It's like one of those
things you go, oh, they'll learn nothing from this. It's
it's sort of like all of the consultant class and
all of the Republicans who took credit for Trump winning
the first time. It's like, you guys did nothing like
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this guy like came in and he was just so
different that he got a populist movement behind him in
one This is one of those like, I don't know,
not to be repetitive here. They just don't deserve it,
but they're going to do it.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
You know, I hear you, And yet I still fear
this communist future and whatever. Like a squishy Republican who
sucks is still a million times better than you know,
a Hong who wants no Thanksgiving and no police and
no prisons and all the rest of the stuff that
comes with their insane platform. And so if it's going
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to have to be Republicans who suck, that's who it is.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, that's that's where we are, which is not a
good place to be.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Well, we're going to take a short break and come
right back with another segment of Normally, where we will
get into all the crazy things these people believe.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Be right back.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
We are back on Normally, where Tim Young is guest
co hosting for Mary Catherine Ham who's on vacation. And
Tim is doing a great job right now. I hope
you're all enjoying his amazing insights. I am so.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I can't believe you have the podcast IP normally. I
don't know how did you get that?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I don't know. I don't even know what an IP podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Intellectual property having a podcast called normally, that's wild to me.
When I go to name something, I have to have
eighty five names. My attorneys are like, you now now
that the first seven seven words of that have ever
already been used by eighty five different products, So you
got it. That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It's funny because we tried for some other variations on normal,
and they were unavailable but held by people who barely
use it, and that really frustrates me.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Now, if your name was Ali, see, that would be
like a whole thing there. You could be Norman Ali Nale.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Right, an ally of an ally of the norm?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Is that what it is?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
No, it's not, but it could be, right, it should.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Be, because you really aren't, like as as far as
all these I'm just I'm just gonna go ahead and
take every podcast for a second, as far as all
these other crazy people out there, you really are an
ally of the norm and a very logical saying and
intelligent person. It makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Thank you, Thank you. That's what we go for here
on Normally. We try to be normal people, doing normal
things and saying normal things and believing normal things and
pointing out when things are abnormal. Yeah, so what's abnormal?
Francesca Hong has old tweets calling for abolishing prisons and
the police, and apparently we shouldn't be concerned with any
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of that because look, it was a crazy time, a crazy,
crazy time. Here's AOC on this week defending this standing.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Is that is that Francesca Hong has made clear her
presence dances.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
To her life.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
She's moved away from right.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
She's moved away from it. And I have a local
city councilman that has this saying woke one was crazy, crazy.
She wants to move away from whatever the insane stuff
was from twenty twenty and it was insane and they
said so many crazy things and they did so many
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crazy things, and now this like, haha, we were just
kind of kidding about it. I don't buy it. First
of all, I think that they're just trying to win
an election. They haven't moved away from anything. But second,
imagine having a media where they were asked like, what
specifically do you not believe anymore? What specifically are you
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sorry for saying and believing and pushing on the rest
of us. But obviously, Tim, we don't have that kind
of media.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah. Well, also, they haven't changed any opinions whatsoever. They're
just trying to label it differently. And at least now
she's saying that woke was a thing because for a
while and I don't check this using AI she claimed
for a long time AOC that the term woke was
created by the right, and then it was used to
weaponize and make the left look bad. So at least
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she's saying that woke is real this time. But there
is nothing accurate about these people. Again, this is Abigail Spamberger.
You got to take a look at what happened in Virginia.
They are literally going to lie to you. They're going
to say that this isn't their ideas, this isn't what
they want to stand for, and then they'll go right
into office and do exactly what they just lied about.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Right, So, Mary Katherine Ham is from Virginia. We've covered
Abigail Spamberger lying her way into office a lot on here,
pretending to be a moderate and running as a moderate
but actually governing as a leftist. AOC and CO can't
really do that. They can't run as moderates. They can
only walk back their most fringy positions, and I don't
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really think they have. Again, if we had a media
that asked questions, we could ask what do you think
of biological boys and girls' sports? What do you think
of Christopher Columbus statute is? What do you think of
all the things that we were forced to say were
bad in the early twenty twenties. I mean, not we
me and you, but we larger people who had to
put black squares on their social media and did really
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insane stuff like that. What about all that? What about
all the things that you made people walk the line
and believe? What about cancel culture? That apparently cancel culture
is something that they no longer believe in or they
actually kind of portray it as something we did, something
that the right foisted on them, and it's not exactly
how I remember it.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah. Also, I mean they also tried to put forward
these like very white, like masculine looking guys like Grand
Platner that we learned to know too much about actual Nazis.
They were like, hey, oh, our electorate to love that.
You know, I blame in all of this. You make
a very good point about the media not pushing back.
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What has the right done when you have all these
large organizations? Hope, boy, you're going to get myself in trouble,
These large organizations that are out there that collect millions
of dollars to change our culture, and everything has shifted
left with basically nothing moving right other than what Trump
has done just kind of like on his own really
with his team. You take a look at all the
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money that's getting sunk in by donors in these organizations
and all these people who are supposed to be moving
the needle back, and nothing has moved back to the
right except when the left pretends they're that they are.
And so for me watching this cultural shift, we're not
looking at the fifty thousand foot And I know you're
because you're an ally of the norm. You take a
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look at this and you can kind of see it
for the bigger picture. I don't think a lot of
people are realizing how much money and how much grift.
And when we say grift, I'm not talking about individuals
who are, like you know, spreading conspiracy theories on our
side and doing things. I'm talking about grift of organizations
that claim that they've been moving this needle with million
dollar paid CEOs that are doing nothing and have done
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nothing except collect money and do a little a dance
for donors for years. The right. Again, like I said earlier,
I think we win the house back in spite of ourselves.
But it's a big in spite of ourselves, because there's
so much money just going to nowhere and just funding
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like lavish lifestyles of small people who haven't shifted out
and still claimed victory when they have nothing to do
with victories. And we're losing the culture in a large
part because of the faith that's being put in and
the money that's being put in the wrong direction.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
So I agree with you on a lot of that,
but I feel like we have had some wins. I
think that there are some amazing groups doing excellent things.
Like a lot of the trand stuff has been beaten back.
And not that long ago you had to use these
preferred pronouns, and again not conservative movement people, we didn't
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have to, but the larger segment of the population was
forced into believing something that could not possibly be true,
that you can change your gender and you could become,
you know, a boy if you're actually a girl, or
vice versa, and a lot of that has now been
beaten back. Another thing is I'm on board of defending education,
this group that I think is just excellent, and I
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think Nicky Neely just does phenomenal work suing school districts
and doing all this kind of stuff that I think
we as a conservative movement want. So there are groups.
I mean, you know, I don't want to be the
optimist here, because I don't feel that optimistic right now.
But there's some movement on the right culturally. It's we
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let things go so bad for so long that it's
not going to be an overnight shift.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I like defending it too. I got Sarah partial Perry
over there's phenomenal. She's an incredible attorney that works over there.
But now look the trans stuff and the keeping men
out of women's sports. That ends once we lose the
White House, or if we lose the White House, that
ends a meeting, even though it's a issue. Yeah, it
doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I mean, look, neither side
(17:10):
cares about eighty twenty issues, or else we'd have a
Save America Act past. But no, this is one of
those things. When Trump won the White House back or
the culture shifted just because they knew that the I
think the money was out there when you take a
look at Hollywood and music and things like that, and
they wanted to capture that conservative audience where they could
(17:31):
we'll flip back extreme left, if not farther left once
the White House is gone.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I don't know. I hear you also that the fact
that they don't care when something is an eighty twenty
issue is a wild problem because how are you running
on things that are not popular and yet and winning anyway? Right,
it just doesn't matter that much.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, no, the left again, don't There are stop gaps
in place for right now, but best believe like executive
orders and things. I mean, and yes, there have been
some ships in school boards and things like that, but
there's so much that you know, defending ed can't do
it all. That's the problem, and you have to take
(18:11):
the bigger stuff. There's a lot of local stuff that's
been lost along the way, and just there's so much
like misinformation from the left because they still control all
of the local media too. I mean, we aren't seeing
the bigger picture here and we aren't expanding at the
rate that needs to happen to fix the problems in
the country. And it's scary and it should be Sorry
I started positive, you know it positive way, No, this
(18:35):
is like the reality of the situation is I'm taking
a look at everything that's happening, and you know now
and I'm becoming an old guy in politics, like nothing's fixed.
I once sat down with what's the name of I'm
not even gonna try to remember somebody's name. But I
sat down. I was the director of marketing for Seapack
and every year they say, you know, Seapack's audience grows
and grows growth, and I forget. Oh, it's the head
(18:57):
of the Leadership Institute. What's his name? I was for
his name? Shame on me.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Great, well that also he is a good guy.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, been around forever. And I sat down and I
told him, you know, all the numbers are up this year,
and he goes, yeah, you know, if they told the
true numbers every year and they grew like they did,
the entire world would be covered in conservatives. But here
we are.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Wow that ye yeah yeah, and I laugh.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And that was you know, you know, twelve years ago,
eleven years ago, when it was the director of marketing
at SEAPEC. Yeah, And I look at it now and
I look back and I go, yeah, yeah, no, that's
where this has been. It is like, you know, we
do this dance for donors and we don't like actually
dig in into the work. And that's why, by the way,
Defending Again is a newer organization. We wouldn't need a
(19:42):
Defending ed if the other organizations set up been around forever,
had done their job.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, But then you look at the left and they
have like a Hassan Piker that they're all going to
try to be on his show for the twenty twenty
eight race. Every presidential candidate on the Democratic side is
going to try to get on Hassan Piker show. And
yet he says things like the US deserved nine to eleven.
He talks about, you know, bringing in more immigrants to
(20:08):
take white girls and all of this really crazy crazy stuff.
And then you have we're going to play a clip
of Abdul al said saying that this is all out
of context.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Ana gotcha to sit here and play gotcha politics with
a dumb thing somebody said out of context that they
just allowed themselves to say, Oh, well, what does that
mean about what you think? I want to be held
accountable for what I say and what I do, rather
than this idea that we were so stuck in cancel
culture that all of us agreed was a bad idea
back in twenty twenty, but we seem to want to
bring back.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Did all of us agree on that? I don't remember
them agreeing on that. I remember them calling it consequence culture.
I remember them absolutely canceling people for things that their
friend or colleague or whatever said because they didn't condemn
that enough. And so I hear you when you're like
down on the right. God, I have a long list
of things that I wish the right did differently or
(21:00):
better or effectively. But like, this is what we're up against.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Liars and people who, by the way, if I said
anything in this in the reverse of what Hassan Piker says,
like even in the remote ballpark, our side would turn
on me immediately and I'd be blackbald everywhere.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Right, it doesn't think pieces about how we need to
get rid of Tim Young and never hear from him again.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, yeah, And and they that is the scariest part
of the left right now, is that how much he
talks about literally killing his political opponents and people who
don't agree with him. You know, I don't know where
this goes. I like people have to realize that they're
being lied to on the left. And I think there
(21:43):
are a lot of sane Democrats if you take a
look at that primary that abdull whatever was it? Al Yeah, yeah,
I'm just so I'm so over it at this point,
Like they're all the same. He barely edged out in
the primary there, and that that gives me hope that
there is you know, hundreds of thousands of people, maybe
millions of people in this country or on the left,
(22:05):
that still have their head screwed on straight. This is
it's concerning, and like you know, and again like when
I take a look at the bigger picture, and not
to keep beating a strum, but like I look at
the bigger picture, and like we're up against there aren't
many hills left to die on in our country. You know,
we did narrowly avoid having the government take our children away,
(22:30):
but California hasn't. But this is what do we need
to do to wake everybody up? And I just hope
And again, like I said, like local media is coming
into play here because they're also run by leftists, and
we're asleep at the wheel. It's sort of like how
we kind of rush limbaughs at this back in the day.
Was you know, we're at sleep at the wheel with
(22:51):
like local schools there we are. Yeah, yeah, this is
just getting people to ask questions, getting people to push back.
It's just not there, and I want it to be
there more than what it is. And I just hope
again that people are awake enough and they see this
(23:12):
and that there are enough common sense Democrats out there.
But sorry, I'm kind of like an a spiral here
of thoughts because it's what's on. It's a bad scary place.
I'm just like, I'm just looking at it. It's a
bad scary place, and nobody's coming to save us. It's
gonna be up to your listeners. It's gonna be up
to people like you and and again like normal, normal
people and folks who have just started new orgs and
stuff like that to get it figured out.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Gavin Newsom is calling himself an established insurgent because you know,
how could he be an insurgent at this point. He's
been in government for years and years. You know, I
on twenty twenty eight. Do you think AOC runs and
you think it's happening. So she had this weird little
(23:56):
video out this weekend where she gave herself a shot
in her stomach on camera and said that she was
freezing her eggs and it's a process that has a
very questionable success rate. She's in her late thirties already.
I believe she's thirty six years old. What the hell
is she doing?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
She's had a fiance for five years now, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Let me tell you, I don't think that's a relationship
that's working out.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. Again, if you if you want
to be a mother, be a mother, like you know
every how many how many pregnant congressmen have we had
so far? I know Apple's been one, and Na Pauline
a Luna I call her and it wasn't. Mayra Flora's
also pregnant at one point. I'm trying to think of
all those limits.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
There's been some, but has there been any that had
an eye on the White House?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Is the question?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
That's what people think she's waiting for, right, Like what
what could it be? And Mary Catherine Ham texted me
this morning that she's sad to miss the AOC news
cycle while she's away, and she said, I tell AOC
exactly what I'd tell a friend. If you've been engaged
four years, something is already wrong. If you're not sure
if you want kids by now, you either don't want
kids or don't want this man, or both.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I say, it's two years. I tossed a woman out
of my house after two and a half we were engaged.
There you go well, we.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Can explore that on another.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
But no, it's right after after I think the the
limit on engagements two years. There's obviously something that's going
on there. I always thought that they weren't married because
they don't have to public publicly disclose their money if
they aren't married. I believe that's a thing. So you know,
it's married couples, so you know the pelosis, you know
what they're doing together. But you know AOC's partner, as
(25:42):
long as they aren't legally married, they can sneak a
lot of money to him. I believe that is the
scheme there. But no, it's it's really sad, and I
don't understand. I don't know why she did that video
other than for some sort of strange sympathy maybe with
like mothers or something, or I don't belie. Yeah, it
doesn't make it right.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
So conservatives seem a little split on the whole thing.
A lot of people were like, this is ridiculous. You're
already of an age where you're heading towards where you're
not going to be able to do this naturally, and
freezing your eggs at this point it doesn't give you
that great a shot. But Katie Miller, wife of Stephen Miller,
said she tweeted good for her for wanting to be
(26:21):
a mother and preserving the ability to do so. If
she inspires other women to want to become mothers, awesome,
we need more babies now. I'm all on board with
more babies. But is that what she's doing or is
she inspiring women to wait indefinitely because it's totally fine
and has no drawbacks to freeze eggs, which is not true.
And she didn't just quietly do this. She posted herself
(26:42):
giving herself the shot to social media made it seem
like no big deal. She could have a baby whenever
she wants. That's not really how it goes.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I think I think Katie Miller's right about the whole
thing about like or sorry, You're right about having the
child anytime she wants. Katie Miller, I don't understand. Stop
playing nice. I'm playing nice with these people who clearly
hate you. I mean, they've said everything terrible under the
sun about Steven Miller, who I think is a brilliant guy. Yeah,
and like for Katie Miller to step up, like again,
(27:11):
this is like the stupid burrito argument that happened last week,
like twenty dollars burritos, blah blah blah. I don't care,
you know, if it's stage to divide the right congratulations,
they fell for it again. There is an uninformed influencer
class on our side that just will take up any
talking point that comes along and fight back and forth
and like again, like, I have no problems with Katie Miller,
(27:32):
but like, come on, be smarter than this. You know
you're out there defending AOC against Republicans. Just how about
don't say anything? How about don't look like there's division,
like if you disagree with what Republicans are out saying,
just like on this one, just like, don't take her side,
don't give them what they want. That's what she wants
from this, all.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Right, AOC. Look, I on twenty twenty eight will see
where she ends up with a baby or not. A
baby would actually soften her a lot for twenty twenty eight.
Maybe she should her as a political prop at least.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I have a lot of insulting things that I could
say here about having a baby with her. But look,
I know that I've shopped at the same Whole Foods
that she. I don't know if she still shops by
herself grocery shops, but we used to grocery shop like
at the same time at the Whole Foods on Capitol Hill.
And when you look into her eyes, there are just
is nothing there, man, when you meet her in person.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, I believe it. All right, We're going to take
a short break and come right back with one more
segment of Normally. We are back on Normally, where my
guest's co host today filling in for Mary Catherine Ham
is Tim Young. Tim is awesome and you should follow
his ex account. Tim runs his mouth. He's doing a
(28:43):
really wonderful job hanging in here for MK. And I
don't know. I mean, I feel like he's optimistic sometimes pessimistic.
Sometimes he's really living the normally ethos here.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I'm an ally of the norm which is what the
show's all about.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
So what's normal is not happening at the WNBA. There's
so much news about it. My kids are like, is
this a giant sport? Why are you guys talking about
it so much? But there's so much going on, most
recently Sophie Cunningham, who publicly said that biological boys shouldn't
play in girls sports and is now public enemy number one.
(29:22):
She got clotheslined by Dejane Carrington, who was ejected from
the game and tweeted white privilege from the locker room.
I didn't think it was white privilege. I thought it
was assault. But okay, what the hell's going on in
this league?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Well, here's the truth is, more people will see videos
of Sophie Cunningham getting clotheslined or pointing than we'll watch
any single game, including playoffs, of the WNBA this year.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Your kids are right right, unless, unless, unless Clay Travis
gets his way and gets to have a Nashville Balls
team with all all trans players. That would make it
musty TV.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
It would be super fun. But and you know, I
debate whether or not Britney Grinder is a man or not.
That deep voice is very odd to me. And the
video of her with no shirt on, I don't know
if you've seen that before. The yeah, it's it's very
questionable there. But oh, I wanted to be called pops
with her child wants your child to call her pops.
(30:26):
That's another hut thing. So they may already have trans
people in their league. That being said, I'm tired of
the WNBA. I think if they were smart, they would
have leaned into Caitlin Clark and now Sophie kind of cans.
But the problem is they're run by leftists. And so
you have two reasonably attractive white women, one who is
the best female basketball player of all time, the other
(30:47):
who created a meme that's bigger than the league in
one second and sells out shoes like crazy. And you
have a league of jealous, angry, ugly lesbians who just
want to beat them up because literally it's just jealousy
and hatred. When you know, if this, if they realized
who Caitlin Clark and who Sophie Cunningham could be, they'd
(31:08):
lean into it, sell more tickets and be friendly. But
the tickets that they're selling, and I debated this with
a Barshaol sports woman recently, you know they're like, oh,
it sells out, Brooklyn sells out. I'm like, yeah, wokies
are buying tickets to act out for this. When I
went to see the Black Panther movie when it first
came out from Marvel, it was full of like weird,
(31:30):
smelly theater kids that went to go see it in Washington,
d C. Because they felt it was their job to
go do it. That's their big woke part. And right now,
the big woke part is for these people to show
up and buy, you know, one hundred dollars tickets to
go watch crappy basketball for a couple of hours and
then take selfies and say they did it. By the way,
(31:51):
big big props to you know, the little girls that
got yelled at by the Seattle coach for standing up
for girls and stuff. Everybody who's been getting called out
for this, they've been wearing xxxy athletic gear stuff. I
think it's been reasonable stunts by a good company, by
the way, xxxy, great great athletic company that stands up
for women in sports. But total great stunts that have
(32:15):
been working.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I mean, so nis Kant Freedom and Royce White are
two former NBA players who have declared for the twenty
twenty seven w NBA Draft. And the thing is that
the WNBA has to take this somewhat seriously. I mean,
is it a stunt. Of course it's a stunt, but
they have to take it somewhere seriously. Wesleyang talks about
this on x He says the meeting is happening. The
(32:37):
WNBA commissioner said that league is meeting in New York
City because under New York City law, where the league
is headquartered, these men really can't sue if they are excluded.
If these exact same men had grown their hair out
and begun demanding to be called women two years ago,
every transactivist and ally attacking them today would be cheiring
them on the law makes no distinction. They may actually
(33:00):
you get to play.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I would love to see that.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Alternative is the w NBA saying they are not women,
and then they'll have to define what a woman is,
and then we're in a brand new place.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I wouldn't mind us Cantor Freedom and Royce White suing
the heck out of these people and taking that money
and putting it towards some sort of charity that helps
girls and female athletes. I think that would be awesome,
and I think that's actually where this ends up. I
think that they can't land on. I highly doubt that
this league will be able to land on defining what
a woman is for fear that, you know, they'd have
(33:32):
to get rid of Britney Grinder. I'm telling you again,
Britney Griner, and I wouldn't know that name had it
not been for getting arrested in Russia and US trading
the what was it, the Harbinger of death or something
like that, whatever it was, back for her. But no,
I really look forward to them standing the ground, both
both sides standing the ground, and then Enus Kanter and
(33:54):
Royce White suing the hell out of the WNBA, getting
a bunch of money and giving it to female charities.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Love it. I hope that's what ends up happening. He
is Tim Young, Follow him on, Tim runs his mouth,
check out his work. He's so great. Thank you so
much for joining us, Tim, We loved having you, and
thank you for joining us on Normally. Normally airs Tuesdays
and Thursdays, and you can subscribe anywhere you get your podcasts.
Get in touch with us at normallythepod at gmail dot com.
(34:20):
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