Karol Markowicz is joined by guest co-host Stephen L. Miller or a wide-ranging conversation on politics, media narratives, immigration, and culture. The pair break down Democrat Senate nominee Graham Platner’s growing controversies, including questions surrounding his background, past statements, and the strategy behind his candidacy. They also discuss Texas Democrat James Talarico, whether Democrats are rebranding candidates without changing policies, and what these races reveal about the party’s future.
Later, Karol and Stephen examine violent incidents in the United Kingdom, growing public frustration over immigration and policing, and the political backlash facing leaders across Europe. They explore how media coverage shapes public perception and why voters increasingly distrust establishment narratives.
The episode closes on a lighter note with the viral phenomenon of “Happy Europeans” discovering America—from Buc-ee’s and ranch dressing to air conditioning and 24-hour breakfasts—and what their reactions reveal about American culture and exceptionalism.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hi, and welcome back to Normally, the show with normalist
takes from when the News gets weird. I'm Carol Markowitz
with my guest host Stephen Miller. Today you can catch
Stephen on x as, Red Ste's and the Versus Media
podcast on substack. Hi, Steven, so nice to have you on.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, you have to clarify that one, right, It's.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Like not that Stephen Miller, Yeah, the other Stephen Miller.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm the one with the better looking and i'd like
to say more hair, except my hair's pretty short right
now for summers. So I've been like sitting here wondering
when I was going to be a guest, and then
out of the blue, You're like, no, come co host.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
And we don't have guests, so you would have been
waiting a really long time.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Okay then and you were like, hey come, you know,
yeah for you know, Mary Catherine m h and those
are giant shoes to step into.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I'm not sure you're up for it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I mean, we'll see already know. I'm not up for it.
I'm going to this show so bad.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Well, we are fans of yours on here normally, and
we actually quote you quite often, so this is a
perfect fit. Other than again, you're not as good as
Mary Catherine, but you know you're You're okay, You're okay.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Who is really so?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Graham Platner won the US Senate primary to be the
Democratic candidate from Maine last night. It wasn't surprising. He
was really the only major candidate running after Janet Mills,
the governor, had dropped out. Are you surprised that the
Democrats have nominated a guy with a Nazi tattoo?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
No, nothing that those guys do over there surprises me
these days. I think the background on him is more
fascinating than the guy himself. There's just to me, there's
not much there. I saw a great post where someone said, up,
this guy wasn't running for office, you'd be telling the
police to keep an eye on him. And you know,
(02:00):
more and more comes out. I've said this. I think
he's probably the most focused grouped candidate in history. And
I think James Tolerico's creepy preacher Eli Sunday Act in
Texas is next. And so you had a guy who's
recruited by two you know, socialist activists that are now
getting some attention for just how creepy they are coming
off in an interview with Walter so weird.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Let's let's actually play that clip before we go further. Yeah,
I think I'm sorry we're going to have to hear
that guy's boys. But this is from a Wall Street
Journal report by Aaron Zitner on the activist and Bernie
staffers who handpicked Platner for the main US Senate. Their
names are Daniel Morath and his fiance Leanne Fenn. And
your ears are going to hurt from the way this
(02:43):
guy speaks. Let's play the clip.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
We've paid a nice firm a whole chunk of money
and got some stuff back. Some of what you've seen
on the news we got back. Other stuff we did.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
And did the vetting process turn up the tattoo that
became so controversial here? No, the Reddit posts? Did that
turn up in the vetting process?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Mhm. The firm sent us a thing and it had
some of the pass but it didn't have all of them.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
And what did you think about that? How did you
how did you think your way through the fact that
he had posted these things on social media?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I said, none of this well or should stop him
from becoming a US center.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
How is that his real voice.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I feel like I'm in I'm in a Nathan Fielder
skit with that, I can't believe these people are real.
And yeah, these these people, these guys. And what's interesting
is that these guys they put they posted themselves as
like outsiders of the d n C. I mean, these guys,
these guys are the elite of the elite. He would
to Yale and he's, you know, he's upper class and
(03:57):
he's he is a Bernie Sanders elitist, which so these
people are, and you know he's you know, they didn't
vet his tattoo, and they go and the funniest thing there,
what about the Reddit posts? And not all of them? Okay,
which ones was one? Was it the one where you
wish a purple heart recipient dead? Or women should take
responsibility for their own rapes? And so you know, they've
(04:18):
molded Platner to appear like every man working Joe, and
Platner himself is an elite. And so they also they
also found this guy Osbourne in Nebraska who was very
similar archaetype to what Platner is. He has tattoos, he's
a veteran, he was a union leader, and so they
have a very specific mold in mind, and because they realize, oh,
(04:40):
you know, crap, we're losing white men and that's the
demographic that's going to kill us, because there still are
a lot of us out there. And so that they
find this guy who has this gruff sounding voice and
he's got the mustache and he's you know, he looks like,
you know, diabetes person, you know, in his in his prime.
(05:00):
And what they've done is focus grouped what they think
a white man is, right, instead of instead of finding
a normy white man, what they have is they put
this guy into kind of the brundle fly transporter pod
and what they what they come out with is who
they think white working men are and who the Democratic
Party in our media have been portraying white men for
(05:23):
the last ten to fifteen years as a hazard, the
veterans of stupid wars who are also white supremacists. Also
toxic masculinity, which involves sexual assault, abuse of women. This
is the art, This is the prototype of what the media,
the Democratic Party thinks will take it. We want this, Yeah,
they're there. They genuinely believe plant is going to relate nationally,
(05:46):
not just in Maine, because again he has tattoos, and
he's a toxic masculine man with you know, abuse allegations,
and he's a rapist, and he's also a white supremacist
with the apparently right. That's who they think white men are.
That's who they telling us white men are for the
last ten or so years. And so, you know, I
saw this comment where says they fundamentally cannot win on
(06:08):
their ideas. Even after the twenty twenty four election, they
didn't They didn't even move an inch on gender issues.
They didn't make an inch on immigration, and so if
you're not going to change your issues, you have to
prepackage your candidates. So again you get this rough white
guy who can shoot and curse and he eats meat
on camera. And you know, this is kind of also
(06:29):
the Tim Waltz phenomenon right where they picked Tim Waltz
and they call him coach and he's out there it's
camouflage and he can change an air filter on a car.
And then it turns out the guy's jazz hands. Elmer
Fudd who almost kills a guy with a shotgun standing
two is six, right, And that's what this is. And
it's very similar to also what they're doing with Tolerico
(06:50):
in Texas is we need, you know, a good old
boy who is you know, religious, and he's peers the
driven snow and what you have there is again one
of the most cynical attempts at running a candidate that
I've ever seen. Tall Rico was a politician. Then he
goes to seminary like three years after he's already been
in office. And I've said, the reason he's done this
(07:12):
is so he can reach more voters in churches. That's
the only reason he would.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
That's pretty cynical.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's extremely cynical. But that's to me
what's going on down there as well.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So what about the just fakery around Plattner's life, the
fact that his mom is his only oyster farm client,
the fact that his parents bought in my house. I mean,
do Democrats really just not care about any of this?
Is it like the communist Bernie Sanders having three houses?
Who cares?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah? I think that when Mam Donnie won in New York,
this was the embrace. You know, Mam Donnie is the
guy that Barack Obama always wish he could be publicly right,
Obama kind of had to hide his Marxist bona fides
and Mam Donnie basically runs on Champagne Marxism during his campaign.
(08:03):
You know, he got married, and he could have had
like a small venue if he really was this kind
of high sparrow act that Bernie Sanders does. He could
have had like a small wedding in a brooklyn Borough
and had a few people there and say, hey, well,
I'm not going to spend a ton of money. No,
what does he do? He flies a private jet back
to Uganda where his parents live, and obviously his father
(08:23):
was a famous professor, his mother is one of the
most famous filmmakers internationally in the world. And they had
this blowout wedding at their compound in Uganda, complete with
armed security guards with AK forty seven's And he's a
guy your face, you know, And so it's not the
Bernie Sanders poor guy act anymore. They really are embracing
(08:46):
this kind of Champagne Nepo Marxism and they're waving their
flag proudly with it. And so my thing with Platner
is you just have to tell the truth about the
guy and let him, you know, tell people, how did
you change all of this wait a minute, you're not
really an oyster farmer. You only you know far oisters
for your mother who gave you a house. And this
(09:08):
is a guy who piled around in Washington, d C.
Prior to putting on this facade. And another example of
this is Alexandria Casio Cortez. People always hit her for
being a bartender. Well she's not. She went she went
to Boston and she interned for Ted Kennedy, right, and
then you know, she moves back to New York and
she puts on this activist front and it's probably going
(09:31):
to lead to a presidential campaign. And so this is
just them waving this out in the open. They don't
care anymore. And the Bernie wing has a message stranglehold
on that party.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
What about the me too stuff? And you know, before
we actually even get to Platner, there's a second former
Capital staffer has confirmed a past romantic relationship with James
tell Rico. Like I thought, dating staffers was completely unacceptable,
and a bunch of guys got fired for that kind
of thing during Meat Too. And then of course you
have the Platinum story that The Wall the New York
(10:04):
Times really tried to wash for him. And there's a
story in the Free Press today with more details about it,
just how much he lied about and more texts from
Lindsay Feffeld that we're already out and she had produced
them for the New York Times and they never ran
them or talked about it at all. So what do
(10:25):
the Democrats care about it at this point? If it's
not you know, his actual working class background, and they
don't care that he has a Nazi tattoo, and they
don't care about the me too stuff, What does actually matter?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
A power? And that was on that was demonstrated with
the John Fetterman campaign. And I've compared both of these
instances where you know, we're going to run a guy
who is a stroke victim, who wasn't campaigning for months
while they prop his you know, camera thurs leble wife
up and you know they said, don't even ask questions.
You saw when Dasha Burns interviewed him him, Kara Swisher
(11:01):
went on a cry bully tirade against her because it
was just about capturing the Senate And there were no
videos ever a Fetterman on the campaign trail. And there
are rumors that I've I've heard from people Slash sources
that journalists covering the Feederman campaign were told not to
videotape him or use the record device on their phone
by the campaign, and journalists complied with that, and because
(11:24):
you know, of course he did. Yeah, and so Fetterman wins,
you know, they get him across the finish line, and
then it's we can control this guy. You know. He
goes off to Walter Reid and Alex Gentilsen, who formerly
Harry Reid's lead operative. He kind of takes over that
role as acting senator. And so their attitude is if
we can, if we can get Federman elected, we can
(11:44):
get anybody elected. And I'm more bullish on Plantner than
a lot of people are. Susan Collins is seventy three
years old. She doesn't look great, she doesn't talks, and
that might yet the voters might just go, she's too
old to serve. Here, here's a younger, you know, healthier look,
human heat and grand Plantner, and that might be all
all she wrote.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Right, Although Susan Collins has been traditionally very hard to beat.
So if there is anyone that can take that can
win this and can take him out, it's going to
be her, but I agree with you not to take
him too lightly. I think a lot of people are
thinking it's a done deal. I did the same thing
tall Rico less so like I think he's got a
(12:24):
much tougher road in Texas. But you just never know
on an off year election, if the president is unpopular,
if people are voting against the president and the opposition
party is obviously more motivated to do that, you just
don't know what will happen. And so I don't know.
I think that taking the Platners and the tall Ricos
(12:45):
of the world seriously is important. I hope Republicans do that.
It's hard to see Republican strategy right now, and I'm
not sure where they're going to go with this.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Maybe always right, we're praying now Talla Rica's the one
out here saying no, no, no, I'm the one praying yeah.
You know, demographics are changing, and so people look at
it and go, well, there's no way this guy can
win in Texas well when you import one third of
the population from California because of COVID. Yeah, and you
see every city in Texas is going blue even for it.
(13:17):
We're Dallas now is skewed blue. With a Democratic mayor,
is the question becomes, you know, Texas has one of
the largest, if not the largest, rural populations in the country,
and is it still enough of those people that can
overcome you know, blue cities like Austin or San Antonio,
or Houston or Dallas, which are all basically Democrat run enclaves.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
It's just so bizarre that those people would move to
Texas and be like, you know what we should do,
get more of what we just left. You know, I
know what happens. I mean, but look, Florida's sort of
the anomaly here where Florida got redder as people moved here,
and I don't get why that isn't the case everywhere.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I've talked about this book a lot. It's called The
Colorado Blue and it lays out exactly how Colorado went
from a red state. You know, in the nineties they
had a Republican governamed Bill Owens who almost ran for president,
that's how successful he was, to Colorado is now you know,
a solid blue state in ways that Portland and Seattle are,
(14:19):
and it's literally probably the bluest state in the middle.
That's the only blue state in the middle of the country.
Say for Minnesota, and it documents exactly how it became
this far left, you know state, which is you again,
you imported a lot of the California population as well
as New Mexico and others into cities like Denver, and
(14:40):
the population in Denver has grown such that it overtakes
the rural areas like you know, Pueblo. And interesting about
Colorado is it has the bluest city in the country
in Boulder, Colorado, and then it has Colorado Springs, which
is like the reddest, most religious city in the country.
And that's kind of just what happens. They moved from
pl to place and they overtake politically, they overtake what
(15:03):
whatever opposition is in their way, and they make it.
There is another thing that does that as a virus.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Is Colorado Spring still the reddest place in the country.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
It might. I don't know. I haven't been there in years,
but that's that's what it was famous for.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So I worked on originally the Peak Corps campaign and
Colorado Springs in two thousand and four. It was super
super red, but I was there like two years ago
and it did not seem that red anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
So, Yeah, it went from like that's to give you
an idea of people who don't know. Colorado Spring was
where mel Gibson premiered the passion of the Christ right
right everywhere in the world he could have done that,
that's where he chose to do that. And so yeah,
I mean I haven't been there in years, but you know,
demographics change, and yeah, inevitably, if you know, Denver is
(15:51):
now a stronghold of progressive policies that we see happening
in places like Seattle and Portland, and so it just
becomes a population bomb. And that's that's what you have
to watch for in places like Texas and Florida. And
the Democratic Party plays the long game. They really do, Yeah,
because they had it once before, they had Ann Richards
as a governor and it wasn't so red. And then
(16:13):
again now these cities are growing and they're all growing blue.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
All right, On that very negative note, we're going to
take a short break and come right back with.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
More on Normally, Always the Optimist.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
More on Normally it's guest host Stephen Miller. We are
back on Normally with my guest co host, Stephen Miller.
He is red steas on X. Check him out if
you're not following. That's absolutely crazy, because his account is
one of the absolute best. We're going to talk about
violence in the UK. In North Belfast two days ago
(16:51):
there was an attempted beheading on the street. The suspect
is named Hattie l Odd and originally they said he
was from some turned out he was from Sudan. And
the victim is Stephen Ogilvie. He survived but has catastrophic injury,
including the loss of one eye. And the real story here,
(17:12):
obviously Stephen is Republicans pounce, Conservatives pounds, Donald Trump pounces,
and that's been the case, you know, with every kind
of story like this, which is don't pay attention to this.
It's only conservatives making this a story. But I've seen
footage from Belfast and they seem kind of mad.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, and now they're being called the right wing extremists
for going out and protesting. And there's a little you know,
the white populations in Europe are more prone to writing
than we are over here. You know, we're busy, we
have you know, jobs and watch and so they don't
really have all of that stuff over there. So they
love a good soccer riot as it goes. Yeah, I
(17:55):
mean the reason the stuff resonates, and I think more
so than it has in recent years. And I'm not
kind of one of these immigration doomers, right, I'm not.
I'm not Daniel day Lewis in gangs of New York
trying to kick out all of the Irish or anything.
But one of the but these the things about these
incidents is that the media doesn't understand why they resonate.
(18:18):
Is they the media chooses which cases to highlight and
which not to. And so when you have, you know,
five years of race riots because of George Floyd, and
then you have victims who are not of that ethnicity
or whatever it is, get ignored, that's where you get
this kind of you know, nationalist backlash. And again, this
(18:41):
is something like the political left doesn't understand as well
as our media is race is everything to them. This was,
you know, spoken in a meeting at the New York
Times around the time of the Floyd riots. And they
continue to make everything about race, mostly when most of
us have kind of moved on. And so that's when
you get these kind of visceral counter narratives. I said,
I'm not one of these guys where I'm bent on
(19:03):
highlighting every instance of crime by migrants. But I understand,
I understand why the murder of a Ukrainian girl on
a bus resonates, or Laken Riley resonates, or we had
this woman in Chicago who was murdered by a Venezuelan national,
and people see who gets the special treatment in protection
from the media, and generally one political party or Isle
(19:24):
or side with London. And so we saw Cure Starmer's
reaction calling, you know, this incidant the death of Henry Novak,
which the other.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Story, right, this happened in England, and it was a
white man was stabbed by a Sikh and when the
police arrived, the Sikh told the police that there had
been a racist incident and Henry Noak was on the
ground saying I've been stabbed. In his video the policeman
putting him in handcuffs and saying I have mate. Don't
(19:56):
think you.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Have mate, And that's now gone on to be.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
A meme, right, that's the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And yeah, and he died in custody, and so we
saw Cure Starmer's reaction calling it a knife crime, right,
and this guy who you know kneeled in solidarity into
Parliament for George Floyd of you can imagine it. Yeah,
but then now the UK has come out and declared
that they will still allow you know, certain ethnicities to
carry their ceremonial swords on them. So carry a gun
(20:23):
in Britain. There's no concealed carry. You can't carry blades
that are of a certain length. Oh but if I
say that I have religious protections, Yeah, we're gonna let
you walk down the street with a sword like you're
going after Indiana Jones, right, And so that's how you
get this. This is how you get this visceral backlash too.
Why isn't the same kind of attention being paid here? Oh,
(20:44):
because he's white. We saw this with this verdict in
Texas yesterday, this high school kid who was stabbed and
by a black youth who was convicted. And now they're
all out in the streets with their selfie sticks and
their cell phones creating content for TikTok to try to
create riots. And so we see this stuff and it's
kind of like, Okay, someone's getting their heads sought off
(21:07):
in the middle of the street. That's something we've never
seen for fifty years in Ireland. We've seen bombings and
drunken fights and stuff like that, and then we see
how the BBC puts serious incident in quotes and calls
it a minor stabbing.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Right right, let me just let me just say so,
we don't have our own riots here. It's Northern Ireland.
I think that.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Is technically the UK, right, it.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Is technically the UK. Yes, yes, yes, you can't be
calling them Ireland. It's a whole thing over there.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Okay, so I just about started an international right, Yes
it is the UK. Apologies over there. But yeah. The
thing about these incidents is is one way or another,
they're all avoidable. Yeah, that's what That's what we have
in common with you know, the Lake and Riley murder,
and that's what we have in common Ukrainian girl on
(21:56):
the bus and that's what you see in the UK.
These are incidence. Is you know, it's fine if we
have crime, and it's not fine. But when you again,
when I talk about importing populations, you import one third
of the population males of Syria. Yeah, and that becomes avoidable.
And you know, I think you're going to see the
pendulum swing over to like a Nigel Farash style candidate.
(22:18):
The problem is is once they're there, they're increasingly impossible
to leave. Yeah. Yeah, And you know when you have
things like the Rotterdamn scandal and you hear about no
go zones in the city of London, I mean that's
probably coming to a district near you in Michigan here
pretty soon, right.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And in the media is fag if it doesn't exist already,
right right.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
And the media's favorite trick is to, you know, simply
tell you that if you notice this stuff, you're a
racist or you're a white supremacist. And that eventually is
going to fail, because that's one of Trump's biggest superpowers,
was bringing on the Angel Moms or whatever. And you
know that you don't have an explanation for why this
(22:58):
has to happen. And the Democratic Party sitting on their
hands during the State of the Union, during the Lake
and Riley thing is the optics of that they can't
get around, you know. And now we have possibly another one.
A kid in Philly was shot a block from his
house walking home after watching an NBA game. And now
he's a Penn State student and now there's a vigil
(23:19):
and what the media is calling protests coming for this stuff.
And so the problem they have is they talk about
wanting to reduce gun crime, and then once there's a shooting,
you have a Soros DA who doesn't give them jail
time exactly, and that's kind of the cycle that they're in.
And so you are seeing a kind of a tide
turn in Europe. And I don't live in the UK,
(23:40):
so you know, I know people talk that they throw
the words conquered around a lot, but we do know
that there is a problem with that over there, and
again people are starting to notice it in ways that
are unfortunate for the government over there.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
The problem is, like you said, is that they can't
be honest about what's happening. I mean, there's the Washington
Post headline on this, a new wave of anti immigrant
violence hits UK as riots convulse Belfast. Is it anti
immigrant or is it anti you know, trying to chop
off somebody's head in the middle of the street. I
(24:15):
think it's really the second part. I'm an immigrant. I'm
not anti immigrant, but I feel strongly that the immigrants.
First of all, we need to have a system to
allow immigration, and then second of all, the immigrants that
we do allow and have to be living our values,
and not beheading our neighbors is one of those values.
So I don't see what's racist about it, and I
(24:38):
don't see what's anti immigrant about it. I really do
see it as anti violence, and you're not stopping the violence.
And the Henry Noak story, what made it so galling
is how the police just did not respond to him
as a person because race is so caught up in
their belief system. And now they're doing a lot of
(24:58):
investigation into police work there, and there's a lot of
international attention obviously on this. But this failure of policing,
it's not about immigration, it's about leftism. It's about what
they've allowed to happen on their watch. It's it's and
so this fake belief that it's about race, it's really
(25:18):
not unless you're saying the police are anti white and
that's the racial part here.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, you have this guy up in Michigan, I'll say
d running for I believe it's a senator. Yeah, and
you know, he was just interviewed by Kaitlyn Collins about
he's deleting old you know, or his campaign rather's deleting
social media posts, about defunding the police, and so Caitlyn
Collins has him on I think this was just last
night and says, you know, why are you deleting these posts? Right?
(25:45):
Do you have you changed your mind on this?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Right?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
And he gives a response where he clearly has not
changed his mind. He just says, we need to reimagine
public safety, need to out of police. We don't need
every problem solved with someone holding a gun, as if
that you walk into every situation like based. And so
they haven't changed their mind on this, and that's what
(26:09):
I mean about. They haven't changed their policies. We're just
repackaging candidates, right, Yeah, and you I've talked about this
in my podcast. Is that there really are you plant
in tall Rico? Right? And now tall Rico's backtracking on
trans or surgeries for gender assignment surgeries for trans children.
He's saying I'm against that. No he's not. They elected
(26:31):
if he says it. Yeah, And so you have these
guys who are like defund the police and no, I've
changed my mind on it. Well, no you haven't. Your
talking points are the same. And it's really this is
a really interesting electoral cycle because I've said this that
it feels like speaking of workshopping candidates, that there's the
majority of the Democratic Party. You're running two types of candidates,
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the hectoring sister in law like Mallory or the Islamic
mail because they don't really have any more you know, demographics,
and every time they try, you get a tall awreker,
you get a grand planner. And so they haven't changed
their philosophies, and so what you have to do is
change the talking points. And that's why you know when
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everyone says woke is dead and no, no, it's not.
Yeah close. Like the second they gained power again, we're
getting all of those DEI departments welcoming back because that's
just who they are. They can't change. Now. Maybe it takes,
you know, a twenty twenty eight loss again for them
to back off some of this insanity, but right now
(27:35):
they're still going full speed ahead. It's also just real fast.
Why I maintained they didn't release that autopsy right because
the autopsy was going to reflect negatively on Kamala Harris
and they can't throw her overboard. Everyone wonders why she's
still the polling favorite, and I said, because she is
the Democratic Party. She is for the most part a
(27:57):
dei higher and that's an open secret, not being controversial.
She is a black woman, and she's a historical figure,
the first you know, African, American, Indian, Pacific Islander, Asian,
whatever she is to yeah, vice president and that's why,
you know, people, you know, I don't think she's gonna
be the nominee, but that's why she's still polling up there.
(28:19):
And so they haven't moved on from ideas, and so
they again they have to repackage their.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Candidates, and they're going to repackage it and move it leftward.
Woke is definitely not over. It's not even really on pause.
It's just a little quieter for now.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
La Meyrial race. You know, they're running you know, Karen
Bass is like a Cuban gorilla supporter fighter that city
said she's not left enough for us, and now they're
going with the woman who you know, exploded her wealth
on homeless nonprofits. So yeah, good luck there.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
All right, we're gonna take a short break and we'll
kind of come back back with one more segment of
Normally with guest co hosts Stephen Miller, and this will
be an optimistic one because why not, why not be
right back. We are back on normally, where Mary Katherine
Ham is on vacation and Stephen Miller red Stee's from
(29:12):
X is doing a phenomenal job filling in for her,
even though I said that he would not fill her shoes.
I feel like, you know, I feel.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Like you're hanging in much like myself who I was.
I was off from my podcast and writing this week.
I was still kind of on Twitter, and so I
still see her, you know, I see her on the
Twitter stage.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
She's like on vacation, but is she really on vacation.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, people like us are just wired different. We don't
ever really log off.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
It's actually a bad wiring. I wish I didn't it
wasn't like that.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, she's having some fun with the happy Europeans too.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
So that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
So they're part of the country right now.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
So yeah, I feel like she would love this story.
So we're gonna have to do it some justice. But basically,
a bunch of Europeans are here for the World Cup
and a few of them have really captured the imagination
of X. One of them is Freddie la seven. He's
been tweeting out his adventures through the southern part of
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the US, and it's stuff like he went to BUCkies
and he had an amazing time and everything he sees
is like huge and awesome and he's having a real
great time.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, he's he's now getting tweeted up by jj Watt.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Oh I saw that JJ Watt invited him to his house.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Oh that's good. JJ Watt's not a big personal fan
of mine. No, we had a little bit of a
tiff that went so viral that members of my hockey
team saw it. Oh yeah, I've made front of him
wearing ninety nine in beer League hockey because ninety nine
was his football number. And so the thing is, you
don't wear ninety nine in Beer League. You just don't
do it. It's a thing with Prenson. So I kind
(30:50):
of I kind of joshed him a bit on it,
and he replied to me and threatened to fight me.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Wow, do you guys mean in a parking lot?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
So I kind of, you know, as people, and then
I fired back with some choresy clips and stuff like that,
and then I got some pals and I got Jarvis
in on the act. And because it's a it's a
whole thing there's all the thing like you don't wear
Wayne Gretzky's number, and I guarantee his team did that
to him on purpose, Right, Hey, you're gonna wear ninety nine.
And so I think my only stance on that is,
I think I could take him on ice caps. I
(31:25):
think I think I could put a hip check on
him at least.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Now that we've gone through some of Redsteez's old grudges,
let's talk about happy Europeans.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yes, yes, yeah. This guy's his name's Freddy and he's
I believe he's from Germany and he's just going around.
He's he's doing LMAO at this at the BUCkies, and
he's going to Chili's and he's getting all of these
people like inviting him to do stuff. And it's reminiscent
of what Japanese Twitter was a few months ago, where
there was this cross pollination of Japanese Twitter and American
(31:55):
Twitter and they just discovered barbecue. So everyone's, you know,
telling him how to go and make barbecue. And then
we also have this Swedish influencer, Swedish Elsa Thora, and
she discovered like twenty four hour breakfast.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
And ran stressing that that was a real big deal
to her.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
And you know, I mentioned on Twitter, like I hope
people are prepared that this is going to be both
the best and worst thing about Twitter in the next
three months with the World Cup. Why because you're going
to get you know, you're going to get some foreigners
slamming Americans and our soccer teams not very good, and
so we're going to fight. So we're going to fire
back with you don't have air conditioning. You know, I'm
(32:35):
trying to take the positive tact on this. So you know,
I saw somebody on Twitter say, all of my friends
are being nice to Europeans and it's a little unset
ly right now, you know, And I told them, I said, well,
the reason we're doing this is because we're going to
give them knowledge of things, right, and they take it home.
They're going to take it back to their country, and
like I said, they're going to pollinate their country with
(32:58):
the knowledge of air conditioners and BUCkies and twenty for
our breakfasts and anti perspirants and you know, any any guys, yes,
any guy who takes free on back to the UK
is going to become a king, okay, And so that's
I kind of think that that's why we're we're doing this.
You know, we're welcoming in. We're hey, we are really
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generous people, right, you know, we're we're a generous culture.
And you know, as we talk about immigration, we have
very long fews in this country as people. But at
the end of the day, we know it's attached to
a really big bomb, right, and so we're welcoming them in. Hey,
come on, enjoy, enjoy air condition, Enjoy spacious hotel rooms, right,
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enjoy like Airbnb. And then they're also going to see
the state of the art stadiums like so far and
you know, while they're not you know, one hundred and
fifty thousand people like an Oasis concert, they're going to
you know, they're going to see these stadiums and just
be blown away by it.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
And so yeah, and why not why not share the
best of our cultures? And you know, things like BUCkies
for example, stuff we take completely for granted. It's not
even like things that were like, oh you have to
go see a BUCkies. Elsa Thora, the Swedish woman. She's
tweeted currently flying over the mountains of Colorado with faster
Wi Fi than I have at home, what are we
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doing wrong in Europe? The USA has completely radicalized me
within forty eight hours, and I you know, I lived
in Europe. There's a lot to like about Europe. They
have a lot of things that could be better, and
they refuse to make those things better because they see
it as like American things, and it's like, get over it.
Just take take the best parts of our culture and
(34:41):
incorporate it into your own.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah, But instead they're taking the worst parts of our culture.
Like France's banning smoking. Yeah, you know, say what you want.
It's cool, Okay, I mean it's cool when you do it.
It looks cool when kids do it.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
People without smoking is like, what do they even have
at that point?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Basically are just sitting outside for you know, seventy hours
a week and doing nothing. Now, help little class of wine.
But that'll get banned here soon too. Outdoor consumption of
alcohol probably is going to get banned.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Now.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
That's when they riot. That's when the white French people.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Riot, yes, yes, or when the soccer team loses, right right,
which I think frances picked a favorite in this whole thing.
So yeah, we're nice for now, and then when our
team loses, we're probably gonna get some shade thrown at us,
and that's when we say get out.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
We're going to say we don't really care. This isn't
our sport, but so glad you guys had fun.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
This is good. This is a time suck for us.
All of our sports are over in summer except baseball,
and nobody really watches baseball anymore.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Well, thank you so much for joining me as my
guest co host. I think you did a fantastic job.
I'm going to keep Mary Catherine Ham, but you've been
a really good stand in. He is Stephen Miller. Check
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Hi, and welcome back to Normally, the show with normalist
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Stephen on x as, Red Ste's and the Versus Media
podcast on substack. Hi, Steven, so nice to have you on.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, you have to clarify that one, right, It's.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Like not that Stephen Miller, Yeah, the other Stephen Miller.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm the one with the better looking and i'd like
to say more hair, except my hair's pretty short right
now for summers. So I've been like sitting here wondering
when I was going to be a guest, and then
out of the blue, You're like, no, come co host.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
And we don't have guests, so you would have been
waiting a really long time.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Okay then and you were like, hey come, you know,
yeah for you know, Mary Catherine m h and those
are giant shoes to step into.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I'm not sure you're up for it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I mean, we'll see already know. I'm not up for it.
I'm going to this show so bad.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Well, we are fans of yours on here normally, and
we actually quote you quite often, so this is a
perfect fit. Other than again, you're not as good as
Mary Catherine, but you know you're You're okay, You're okay.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Who is really so?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Graham Platner won the US Senate primary to be the
Democratic candidate from Maine last night. It wasn't surprising. He
was really the only major candidate running after Janet Mills,
the governor, had dropped out. Are you surprised that the
Democrats have nominated a guy with a Nazi tattoo?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
No, nothing that those guys do over there surprises me
these days. I think the background on him is more
fascinating than the guy himself. There's just to me, there's
not much there. I saw a great post where someone said, up,
this guy wasn't running for office, you'd be telling the
police to keep an eye on him. And you know,
(02:00):
more and more comes out. I've said this. I think
he's probably the most focused grouped candidate in history. And
I think James Tolerico's creepy preacher Eli Sunday Act in
Texas is next. And so you had a guy who's
recruited by two you know, socialist activists that are now
getting some attention for just how creepy they are coming
off in an interview with Walter so weird.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Let's let's actually play that clip before we go further. Yeah,
I think I'm sorry we're going to have to hear
that guy's boys. But this is from a Wall Street
Journal report by Aaron Zitner on the activist and Bernie
staffers who handpicked Platner for the main US Senate. Their
names are Daniel Morath and his fiance Leanne Fenn. And
your ears are going to hurt from the way this
(02:43):
guy speaks. Let's play the clip.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
We've paid a nice firm a whole chunk of money
and got some stuff back. Some of what you've seen
on the news we got back. Other stuff we did.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
And did the vetting process turn up the tattoo that
became so controversial here? No, the Reddit posts? Did that
turn up in the vetting process?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Mhm. The firm sent us a thing and it had
some of the pass but it didn't have all of them.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
And what did you think about that? How did you
how did you think your way through the fact that
he had posted these things on social media?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I said, none of this well or should stop him
from becoming a US center.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
How is that his real voice.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I feel like I'm in I'm in a Nathan Fielder
skit with that, I can't believe these people are real.
And yeah, these these people, these guys. And what's interesting
is that these guys they put they posted themselves as
like outsiders of the d n C. I mean, these guys,
these guys are the elite of the elite. He would
to Yale and he's, you know, he's upper class and
(03:57):
he's he is a Bernie Sanders elitist, which so these
people are, and you know he's you know, they didn't
vet his tattoo, and they go and the funniest thing there,
what about the Reddit posts? And not all of them? Okay,
which ones was one? Was it the one where you
wish a purple heart recipient dead? Or women should take
responsibility for their own rapes? And so you know, they've
(04:18):
molded Platner to appear like every man working Joe, and
Platner himself is an elite. And so they also they
also found this guy Osbourne in Nebraska who was very
similar archaetype to what Platner is. He has tattoos, he's
a veteran, he was a union leader, and so they
have a very specific mold in mind, and because they realize, oh,
(04:40):
you know, crap, we're losing white men and that's the
demographic that's going to kill us, because there still are
a lot of us out there. And so that they
find this guy who has this gruff sounding voice and
he's got the mustache and he's you know, he looks like,
you know, diabetes person, you know, in his in his prime.
(05:00):
And what they've done is focus grouped what they think
a white man is, right, instead of instead of finding
a normy white man, what they have is they put
this guy into kind of the brundle fly transporter pod
and what they what they come out with is who
they think white working men are and who the Democratic
Party in our media have been portraying white men for
(05:23):
the last ten to fifteen years as a hazard, the
veterans of stupid wars who are also white supremacists. Also
toxic masculinity, which involves sexual assault, abuse of women. This
is the art, This is the prototype of what the media,
the Democratic Party thinks will take it. We want this, Yeah,
they're there. They genuinely believe plant is going to relate nationally,
(05:46):
not just in Maine, because again he has tattoos, and
he's a toxic masculine man with you know, abuse allegations,
and he's a rapist, and he's also a white supremacist
with the apparently right. That's who they think white men are.
That's who they telling us white men are for the
last ten or so years. And so, you know, I
saw this comment where says they fundamentally cannot win on
(06:08):
their ideas. Even after the twenty twenty four election, they
didn't They didn't even move an inch on gender issues.
They didn't make an inch on immigration, and so if
you're not going to change your issues, you have to
prepackage your candidates. So again you get this rough white
guy who can shoot and curse and he eats meat
on camera. And you know, this is kind of also
(06:29):
the Tim Waltz phenomenon right where they picked Tim Waltz
and they call him coach and he's out there it's
camouflage and he can change an air filter on a car.
And then it turns out the guy's jazz hands. Elmer
Fudd who almost kills a guy with a shotgun standing
two is six, right, And that's what this is. And
it's very similar to also what they're doing with Tolerico
(06:50):
in Texas is we need, you know, a good old
boy who is you know, religious, and he's peers the
driven snow and what you have there is again one
of the most cynical attempts at running a candidate that
I've ever seen. Tall Rico was a politician. Then he
goes to seminary like three years after he's already been
in office. And I've said, the reason he's done this
(07:12):
is so he can reach more voters in churches. That's
the only reason he would.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
That's pretty cynical.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's extremely cynical. But that's to me
what's going on down there as well.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So what about the just fakery around Plattner's life, the
fact that his mom is his only oyster farm client,
the fact that his parents bought in my house. I mean,
do Democrats really just not care about any of this?
Is it like the communist Bernie Sanders having three houses?
Who cares?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah? I think that when Mam Donnie won in New York,
this was the embrace. You know, Mam Donnie is the
guy that Barack Obama always wish he could be publicly right,
Obama kind of had to hide his Marxist bona fides
and Mam Donnie basically runs on Champagne Marxism during his campaign.
(08:03):
You know, he got married, and he could have had
like a small venue if he really was this kind
of high sparrow act that Bernie Sanders does. He could
have had like a small wedding in a brooklyn Borough
and had a few people there and say, hey, well,
I'm not going to spend a ton of money. No,
what does he do? He flies a private jet back
to Uganda where his parents live, and obviously his father
(08:23):
was a famous professor, his mother is one of the
most famous filmmakers internationally in the world. And they had
this blowout wedding at their compound in Uganda, complete with
armed security guards with AK forty seven's And he's a
guy your face, you know, And so it's not the
Bernie Sanders poor guy act anymore. They really are embracing
(08:46):
this kind of Champagne Nepo Marxism and they're waving their
flag proudly with it. And so my thing with Platner
is you just have to tell the truth about the
guy and let him, you know, tell people, how did
you change all of this wait a minute, you're not
really an oyster farmer. You only you know far oisters
for your mother who gave you a house. And this
(09:08):
is a guy who piled around in Washington, d C.
Prior to putting on this facade. And another example of
this is Alexandria Casio Cortez. People always hit her for
being a bartender. Well she's not. She went she went
to Boston and she interned for Ted Kennedy, right, and
then you know, she moves back to New York and
she puts on this activist front and it's probably going
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to lead to a presidential campaign. And so this is
just them waving this out in the open. They don't
care anymore. And the Bernie wing has a message stranglehold
on that party.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
What about the me too stuff? And you know, before
we actually even get to Platner, there's a second former
Capital staffer has confirmed a past romantic relationship with James
tell Rico. Like I thought, dating staffers was completely unacceptable,
and a bunch of guys got fired for that kind
of thing during Meat Too. And then of course you
have the Platinum story that The Wall the New York
(10:04):
Times really tried to wash for him. And there's a
story in the Free Press today with more details about it,
just how much he lied about and more texts from
Lindsay Feffeld that we're already out and she had produced
them for the New York Times and they never ran
them or talked about it at all. So what do
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the Democrats care about it at this point? If it's
not you know, his actual working class background, and they
don't care that he has a Nazi tattoo, and they
don't care about the me too stuff, What does actually matter?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
A power? And that was on that was demonstrated with
the John Fetterman campaign. And I've compared both of these
instances where you know, we're going to run a guy
who is a stroke victim, who wasn't campaigning for months
while they prop his you know, camera thurs leble wife
up and you know they said, don't even ask questions.
You saw when Dasha Burns interviewed him him, Kara Swisher
(11:01):
went on a cry bully tirade against her because it
was just about capturing the Senate And there were no
videos ever a Fetterman on the campaign trail. And there
are rumors that I've I've heard from people Slash sources
that journalists covering the Feederman campaign were told not to
videotape him or use the record device on their phone
by the campaign, and journalists complied with that, and because
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you know, of course he did. Yeah, and so Fetterman wins,
you know, they get him across the finish line, and
then it's we can control this guy. You know. He
goes off to Walter Reid and Alex Gentilsen, who formerly
Harry Reid's lead operative. He kind of takes over that
role as acting senator. And so their attitude is if
we can, if we can get Federman elected, we can
(11:44):
get anybody elected. And I'm more bullish on Plantner than
a lot of people are. Susan Collins is seventy three
years old. She doesn't look great, she doesn't talks, and
that might yet the voters might just go, she's too
old to serve. Here, here's a younger, you know, healthier look,
human heat and grand Plantner, and that might be all
all she wrote.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Right, Although Susan Collins has been traditionally very hard to beat.
So if there is anyone that can take that can
win this and can take him out, it's going to
be her, but I agree with you not to take
him too lightly. I think a lot of people are
thinking it's a done deal. I did the same thing
tall Rico less so like I think he's got a
(12:24):
much tougher road in Texas. But you just never know
on an off year election, if the president is unpopular,
if people are voting against the president and the opposition
party is obviously more motivated to do that, you just
don't know what will happen. And so I don't know.
I think that taking the Platners and the tall Ricos
(12:45):
of the world seriously is important. I hope Republicans do that.
It's hard to see Republican strategy right now, and I'm
not sure where they're going to go with this.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Maybe always right, we're praying now Talla Rica's the one
out here saying no, no, no, I'm the one praying yeah.
You know, demographics are changing, and so people look at
it and go, well, there's no way this guy can
win in Texas well when you import one third of
the population from California because of COVID. Yeah, and you
see every city in Texas is going blue even for it.
(13:17):
We're Dallas now is skewed blue. With a Democratic mayor,
is the question becomes, you know, Texas has one of
the largest, if not the largest, rural populations in the country,
and is it still enough of those people that can
overcome you know, blue cities like Austin or San Antonio,
or Houston or Dallas, which are all basically Democrat run enclaves.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
It's just so bizarre that those people would move to
Texas and be like, you know what we should do,
get more of what we just left. You know, I
know what happens. I mean, but look, Florida's sort of
the anomaly here where Florida got redder as people moved here,
and I don't get why that isn't the case everywhere.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I've talked about this book a lot. It's called The
Colorado Blue and it lays out exactly how Colorado went
from a red state. You know, in the nineties they
had a Republican governamed Bill Owens who almost ran for president,
that's how successful he was, to Colorado is now you know,
a solid blue state in ways that Portland and Seattle are,
(14:19):
and it's literally probably the bluest state in the middle.
That's the only blue state in the middle of the country.
Say for Minnesota, and it documents exactly how it became
this far left, you know state, which is you again,
you imported a lot of the California population as well
as New Mexico and others into cities like Denver, and
(14:40):
the population in Denver has grown such that it overtakes
the rural areas like you know, Pueblo. And interesting about
Colorado is it has the bluest city in the country
in Boulder, Colorado, and then it has Colorado Springs, which
is like the reddest, most religious city in the country.
And that's kind of just what happens. They moved from
pl to place and they overtake politically, they overtake what
(15:03):
whatever opposition is in their way, and they make it.
There is another thing that does that as a virus.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Is Colorado Spring still the reddest place in the country.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
It might. I don't know. I haven't been there in years,
but that's that's what it was famous for.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So I worked on originally the Peak Corps campaign and
Colorado Springs in two thousand and four. It was super
super red, but I was there like two years ago
and it did not seem that red anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
So, Yeah, it went from like that's to give you
an idea of people who don't know. Colorado Spring was
where mel Gibson premiered the passion of the Christ right
right everywhere in the world he could have done that,
that's where he chose to do that. And so yeah,
I mean I haven't been there in years, but you know,
demographics change, and yeah, inevitably, if you know, Denver is
(15:51):
now a stronghold of progressive policies that we see happening
in places like Seattle and Portland, and so it just
becomes a population bomb. And that's that's what you have
to watch for in places like Texas and Florida. And
the Democratic Party plays the long game. They really do, Yeah,
because they had it once before, they had Ann Richards
as a governor and it wasn't so red. And then
(16:13):
again now these cities are growing and they're all growing blue.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
All right, On that very negative note, we're going to
take a short break and come right back with.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
More on Normally, Always the Optimist.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
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(16:51):
there was an attempted beheading on the street. The suspect
is named Hattie l Odd and originally they said he
was from some turned out he was from Sudan. And
the victim is Stephen Ogilvie. He survived but has catastrophic injury,
including the loss of one eye. And the real story here,
(17:12):
obviously Stephen is Republicans pounce, Conservatives pounds, Donald Trump pounces,
and that's been the case, you know, with every kind
of story like this, which is don't pay attention to this.
It's only conservatives making this a story. But I've seen
footage from Belfast and they seem kind of mad.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, and now they're being called the right wing extremists
for going out and protesting. And there's a little you know,
the white populations in Europe are more prone to writing
than we are over here. You know, we're busy, we
have you know, jobs and watch and so they don't
really have all of that stuff over there. So they
love a good soccer riot as it goes. Yeah, I
(17:55):
mean the reason the stuff resonates, and I think more
so than it has in recent years. And I'm not
kind of one of these immigration doomers, right, I'm not.
I'm not Daniel day Lewis in gangs of New York
trying to kick out all of the Irish or anything.
But one of the but these the things about these
incidents is that the media doesn't understand why they resonate.
(18:18):
Is they the media chooses which cases to highlight and
which not to. And so when you have, you know,
five years of race riots because of George Floyd, and
then you have victims who are not of that ethnicity
or whatever it is, get ignored, that's where you get
this kind of you know, nationalist backlash. And again, this
(18:41):
is something like the political left doesn't understand as well
as our media is race is everything to them. This was,
you know, spoken in a meeting at the New York
Times around the time of the Floyd riots. And they
continue to make everything about race, mostly when most of
us have kind of moved on. And so that's when
you get these kind of visceral counter narratives. I said,
I'm not one of these guys where I'm bent on
(19:03):
highlighting every instance of crime by migrants. But I understand,
I understand why the murder of a Ukrainian girl on
a bus resonates, or Laken Riley resonates, or we had
this woman in Chicago who was murdered by a Venezuelan national,
and people see who gets the special treatment in protection
from the media, and generally one political party or Isle
(19:24):
or side with London. And so we saw Cure Starmer's
reaction calling, you know, this incidant the death of Henry Novak,
which the other.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Story, right, this happened in England, and it was a
white man was stabbed by a Sikh and when the
police arrived, the Sikh told the police that there had
been a racist incident and Henry Noak was on the
ground saying I've been stabbed. In his video the policeman
putting him in handcuffs and saying I have mate. Don't
(19:56):
think you.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Have mate, And that's now gone on to be.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
A meme, right, that's the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And yeah, and he died in custody, and so we
saw Cure Starmer's reaction calling it a knife crime, right,
and this guy who you know kneeled in solidarity into
Parliament for George Floyd of you can imagine it. Yeah,
but then now the UK has come out and declared
that they will still allow you know, certain ethnicities to
carry their ceremonial swords on them. So carry a gun
(20:23):
in Britain. There's no concealed carry. You can't carry blades
that are of a certain length. Oh but if I
say that I have religious protections, Yeah, we're gonna let
you walk down the street with a sword like you're
going after Indiana Jones, right, And so that's how you
get this. This is how you get this visceral backlash too.
Why isn't the same kind of attention being paid here? Oh,
(20:44):
because he's white. We saw this with this verdict in
Texas yesterday, this high school kid who was stabbed and
by a black youth who was convicted. And now they're
all out in the streets with their selfie sticks and
their cell phones creating content for TikTok to try to
create riots. And so we see this stuff and it's
kind of like, Okay, someone's getting their heads sought off
(21:07):
in the middle of the street. That's something we've never
seen for fifty years in Ireland. We've seen bombings and
drunken fights and stuff like that, and then we see
how the BBC puts serious incident in quotes and calls
it a minor stabbing.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Right right, let me just let me just say so,
we don't have our own riots here. It's Northern Ireland.
I think that.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Is technically the UK, right, it.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Is technically the UK. Yes, yes, yes, you can't be
calling them Ireland. It's a whole thing over there.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Okay, so I just about started an international right, Yes
it is the UK. Apologies over there. But yeah. The
thing about these incidents is is one way or another,
they're all avoidable. Yeah, that's what That's what we have
in common with you know, the Lake and Riley murder,
and that's what we have in common Ukrainian girl on
(21:56):
the bus and that's what you see in the UK.
These are incidence. Is you know, it's fine if we
have crime, and it's not fine. But when you again,
when I talk about importing populations, you import one third
of the population males of Syria. Yeah, and that becomes avoidable.
And you know, I think you're going to see the
pendulum swing over to like a Nigel Farash style candidate.
(22:18):
The problem is is once they're there, they're increasingly impossible
to leave. Yeah. Yeah, And you know when you have
things like the Rotterdamn scandal and you hear about no
go zones in the city of London, I mean that's
probably coming to a district near you in Michigan here
pretty soon, right.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And in the media is fag if it doesn't exist already,
right right.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
And the media's favorite trick is to, you know, simply
tell you that if you notice this stuff, you're a
racist or you're a white supremacist. And that eventually is
going to fail, because that's one of Trump's biggest superpowers,
was bringing on the Angel Moms or whatever. And you
know that you don't have an explanation for why this
(22:58):
has to happen. And the Democratic Party sitting on their
hands during the State of the Union, during the Lake
and Riley thing is the optics of that they can't
get around, you know. And now we have possibly another one.
A kid in Philly was shot a block from his
house walking home after watching an NBA game. And now
he's a Penn State student and now there's a vigil
(23:19):
and what the media is calling protests coming for this stuff.
And so the problem they have is they talk about
wanting to reduce gun crime, and then once there's a shooting,
you have a Soros DA who doesn't give them jail
time exactly, and that's kind of the cycle that they're in.
And so you are seeing a kind of a tide
turn in Europe. And I don't live in the UK,
(23:40):
so you know, I know people talk that they throw
the words conquered around a lot, but we do know
that there is a problem with that over there, and
again people are starting to notice it in ways that
are unfortunate for the government over there.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
The problem is, like you said, is that they can't
be honest about what's happening. I mean, there's the Washington
Post headline on this, a new wave of anti immigrant
violence hits UK as riots convulse Belfast. Is it anti
immigrant or is it anti you know, trying to chop
off somebody's head in the middle of the street. I
(24:15):
think it's really the second part. I'm an immigrant. I'm
not anti immigrant, but I feel strongly that the immigrants.
First of all, we need to have a system to
allow immigration, and then second of all, the immigrants that
we do allow and have to be living our values,
and not beheading our neighbors is one of those values.
So I don't see what's racist about it, and I
(24:38):
don't see what's anti immigrant about it. I really do
see it as anti violence, and you're not stopping the violence.
And the Henry Noak story, what made it so galling
is how the police just did not respond to him
as a person because race is so caught up in
their belief system. And now they're doing a lot of
(24:58):
investigation into police work there, and there's a lot of
international attention obviously on this. But this failure of policing,
it's not about immigration, it's about leftism. It's about what
they've allowed to happen on their watch. It's it's and
so this fake belief that it's about race, it's really
(25:18):
not unless you're saying the police are anti white and
that's the racial part here.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, you have this guy up in Michigan, I'll say
d running for I believe it's a senator. Yeah, and
you know, he was just interviewed by Kaitlyn Collins about
he's deleting old you know, or his campaign rather's deleting
social media posts, about defunding the police, and so Caitlyn
Collins has him on I think this was just last
night and says, you know, why are you deleting these posts? Right?
(25:45):
Do you have you changed your mind on this?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Right?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
And he gives a response where he clearly has not
changed his mind. He just says, we need to reimagine
public safety, need to out of police. We don't need
every problem solved with someone holding a gun, as if
that you walk into every situation like based. And so
they haven't changed their mind on this, and that's what
(26:09):
I mean about. They haven't changed their policies. We're just
repackaging candidates, right, Yeah, and you I've talked about this
in my podcast. Is that there really are you plant
in tall Rico? Right? And now tall Rico's backtracking on
trans or surgeries for gender assignment surgeries for trans children.
He's saying I'm against that. No he's not. They elected
(26:31):
if he says it. Yeah, And so you have these
guys who are like defund the police and no, I've
changed my mind on it. Well, no you haven't. Your
talking points are the same. And it's really this is
a really interesting electoral cycle because I've said this that
it feels like speaking of workshopping candidates, that there's the
majority of the Democratic Party. You're running two types of candidates,
(26:52):
the hectoring sister in law like Mallory or the Islamic
mail because they don't really have any more you know, demographics,
and every time they try, you get a tall awreker,
you get a grand planner. And so they haven't changed
their philosophies, and so what you have to do is
change the talking points. And that's why you know when
(27:14):
everyone says woke is dead and no, no, it's not.
Yeah close. Like the second they gained power again, we're
getting all of those DEI departments welcoming back because that's
just who they are. They can't change. Now. Maybe it takes,
you know, a twenty twenty eight loss again for them
to back off some of this insanity, but right now
(27:35):
they're still going full speed ahead. It's also just real fast.
Why I maintained they didn't release that autopsy right because
the autopsy was going to reflect negatively on Kamala Harris
and they can't throw her overboard. Everyone wonders why she's
still the polling favorite, and I said, because she is
the Democratic Party. She is for the most part a
(27:57):
dei higher and that's an open secret, not being controversial.
She is a black woman, and she's a historical figure,
the first you know, African, American, Indian, Pacific Islander, Asian,
whatever she is to yeah, vice president and that's why,
you know, people, you know, I don't think she's gonna
be the nominee, but that's why she's still polling up there.
(28:19):
And so they haven't moved on from ideas, and so
they again they have to repackage their.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Candidates, and they're going to repackage it and move it leftward.
Woke is definitely not over. It's not even really on pause.
It's just a little quieter for now.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
La Meyrial race. You know, they're running you know, Karen
Bass is like a Cuban gorilla supporter fighter that city
said she's not left enough for us, and now they're
going with the woman who you know, exploded her wealth
on homeless nonprofits. So yeah, good luck there.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
All right, we're gonna take a short break and we'll
kind of come back back with one more segment of
Normally with guest co hosts Stephen Miller, and this will
be an optimistic one because why not, why not be
right back. We are back on normally, where Mary Katherine
Ham is on vacation and Stephen Miller red Stee's from
(29:12):
X is doing a phenomenal job filling in for her,
even though I said that he would not fill her shoes.
I feel like, you know, I feel.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Like you're hanging in much like myself who I was.
I was off from my podcast and writing this week.
I was still kind of on Twitter, and so I
still see her, you know, I see her on the
Twitter stage.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
She's like on vacation, but is she really on vacation.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, people like us are just wired different. We don't
ever really log off.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
It's actually a bad wiring. I wish I didn't it
wasn't like that.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, she's having some fun with the happy Europeans too.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
So that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
So they're part of the country right now.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
So yeah, I feel like she would love this story.
So we're gonna have to do it some justice. But basically,
a bunch of Europeans are here for the World Cup
and a few of them have really captured the imagination
of X. One of them is Freddie la seven. He's
been tweeting out his adventures through the southern part of
(30:09):
the US, and it's stuff like he went to BUCkies
and he had an amazing time and everything he sees
is like huge and awesome and he's having a real
great time.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, he's he's now getting tweeted up by jj Watt.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Oh I saw that JJ Watt invited him to his house.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Oh that's good. JJ Watt's not a big personal fan
of mine. No, we had a little bit of a
tiff that went so viral that members of my hockey
team saw it. Oh yeah, I've made front of him
wearing ninety nine in beer League hockey because ninety nine
was his football number. And so the thing is, you
don't wear ninety nine in Beer League. You just don't
do it. It's a thing with Prenson. So I kind
(30:50):
of I kind of joshed him a bit on it,
and he replied to me and threatened to fight me.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Wow, do you guys mean in a parking lot?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
So I kind of, you know, as people, and then
I fired back with some choresy clips and stuff like that,
and then I got some pals and I got Jarvis
in on the act. And because it's a it's a
whole thing there's all the thing like you don't wear
Wayne Gretzky's number, and I guarantee his team did that
to him on purpose, Right, Hey, you're gonna wear ninety nine.
And so I think my only stance on that is,
I think I could take him on ice caps. I
(31:25):
think I think I could put a hip check on
him at least.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Now that we've gone through some of Redsteez's old grudges,
let's talk about happy Europeans.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yes, yes, yeah. This guy's his name's Freddy and he's
I believe he's from Germany and he's just going around.
He's he's doing LMAO at this at the BUCkies, and
he's going to Chili's and he's getting all of these
people like inviting him to do stuff. And it's reminiscent
of what Japanese Twitter was a few months ago, where
there was this cross pollination of Japanese Twitter and American
(31:55):
Twitter and they just discovered barbecue. So everyone's, you know,
telling him how to go and make barbecue. And then
we also have this Swedish influencer, Swedish Elsa Thora, and
she discovered like twenty four hour breakfast.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
And ran stressing that that was a real big deal
to her.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
And you know, I mentioned on Twitter, like I hope
people are prepared that this is going to be both
the best and worst thing about Twitter in the next
three months with the World Cup. Why because you're going
to get you know, you're going to get some foreigners
slamming Americans and our soccer teams not very good, and
so we're going to fight. So we're going to fire
back with you don't have air conditioning. You know, I'm
(32:35):
trying to take the positive tact on this. So you know,
I saw somebody on Twitter say, all of my friends
are being nice to Europeans and it's a little unset
ly right now, you know, And I told them, I said, well,
the reason we're doing this is because we're going to
give them knowledge of things, right, and they take it home.
They're going to take it back to their country, and
like I said, they're going to pollinate their country with
(32:58):
the knowledge of air conditioners and BUCkies and twenty for
our breakfasts and anti perspirants and you know, any any guys, yes,
any guy who takes free on back to the UK
is going to become a king, okay, And so that's
I kind of think that that's why we're we're doing this.
You know, we're welcoming in. We're hey, we are really
(33:20):
generous people, right, you know, we're we're a generous culture.
And you know, as we talk about immigration, we have
very long fews in this country as people. But at
the end of the day, we know it's attached to
a really big bomb, right, and so we're welcoming them in. Hey,
come on, enjoy, enjoy air condition, Enjoy spacious hotel rooms, right,
(33:42):
enjoy like Airbnb. And then they're also going to see
the state of the art stadiums like so far and
you know, while they're not you know, one hundred and
fifty thousand people like an Oasis concert, they're going to
you know, they're going to see these stadiums and just
be blown away by it.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
And so yeah, and why not why not share the
best of our cultures? And you know, things like BUCkies
for example, stuff we take completely for granted. It's not
even like things that were like, oh you have to
go see a BUCkies. Elsa Thora, the Swedish woman. She's
tweeted currently flying over the mountains of Colorado with faster
Wi Fi than I have at home, what are we
(34:19):
doing wrong in Europe? The USA has completely radicalized me
within forty eight hours, and I you know, I lived
in Europe. There's a lot to like about Europe. They
have a lot of things that could be better, and
they refuse to make those things better because they see
it as like American things, and it's like, get over it.
Just take take the best parts of our culture and
(34:41):
incorporate it into your own.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah, But instead they're taking the worst parts of our culture.
Like France's banning smoking. Yeah, you know, say what you want.
It's cool, Okay, I mean it's cool when you do it.
It looks cool when kids do it.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
People without smoking is like, what do they even have
at that point?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Basically are just sitting outside for you know, seventy hours
a week and doing nothing. Now, help little class of wine.
But that'll get banned here soon too. Outdoor consumption of
alcohol probably is going to get banned.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Now.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
That's when they riot. That's when the white French people.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Riot, yes, yes, or when the soccer team loses, right right,
which I think frances picked a favorite in this whole thing.
So yeah, we're nice for now, and then when our
team loses, we're probably gonna get some shade thrown at us,
and that's when we say get out.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
We're going to say we don't really care. This isn't
our sport, but so glad you guys had fun.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
This is good. This is a time suck for us.
All of our sports are over in summer except baseball,
and nobody really watches baseball anymore.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Well, thank you so much for joining me as my
guest co host. I think you did a fantastic job.
I'm going to keep Mary Catherine Ham, but you've been
a really good stand in. He is Stephen Miller. Check
him out on x as Red Stea's read him everywhere,
really right all over the place, and check out his
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